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It's one minute to midnight on a Saturday night | 0:00:08 | 0:00:11 | |
and I'm back in Northern Ireland for the first time in many, many years | 0:00:11 | 0:00:15 | |
Below me, the bars and clubs of Belfast are doing a roaring trade. | 0:00:15 | 0:00:20 | |
The city is jumping and the weekend is in full swing... | 0:00:20 | 0:00:25 | |
..but Saturday night is about to become Sunday morning. | 0:00:25 | 0:00:28 | |
And a Sunday has always been a very special day in Northern Ireland. | 0:00:28 | 0:00:33 | |
My name's Peter Curran. I'm a writer and presenter, | 0:00:36 | 0:00:38 | |
who left Northern Ireland for the glamour of London building sites | 0:00:38 | 0:00:41 | |
back in the 1980s. | 0:00:41 | 0:00:44 | |
It was the height of the Troubles, when, if you were lucky, | 0:00:44 | 0:00:47 | |
Sundays were drab and dull, | 0:00:47 | 0:00:48 | |
and, if not, they were violent and nightmarish. | 0:00:48 | 0:00:52 | |
The Sabbath could be the worst day of the week. | 0:00:52 | 0:00:55 | |
The teenage me spent many a Sunday | 0:00:55 | 0:00:57 | |
mooching about the empty streets of north Belfast, | 0:00:57 | 0:01:00 | |
dreaming of girls and rock and roll stardom. | 0:01:00 | 0:01:04 | |
But it's 2012 now, there's peace and prosperity, | 0:01:04 | 0:01:07 | |
and I'm here to refresh my idea of Northern Ireland in its Sunday Best. | 0:01:07 | 0:01:13 | |
So, I want to find out | 0:01:13 | 0:01:15 | |
what the changes to Sundays in Northern Ireland are... | 0:01:15 | 0:01:18 | |
..and maybe show you the differences that have evolved slowly | 0:01:18 | 0:01:21 | |
but are really startling when set against the good old bad old days. | 0:01:21 | 0:01:26 | |
What do people feel about Sundays in a society | 0:01:26 | 0:01:29 | |
that's certainly less religious and more peaceful | 0:01:29 | 0:01:32 | |
than the one I left behind? | 0:01:32 | 0:01:35 | |
Hi! | 0:01:36 | 0:01:38 | |
So, what's Sunday mean to you? | 0:01:38 | 0:01:40 | |
Sunday means a hangover all day and then party all night. | 0:01:40 | 0:01:43 | |
Usually very hungover and you just want to eat all day. | 0:01:43 | 0:01:48 | |
Tomorrow is a day of rest, | 0:01:49 | 0:01:52 | |
and I will lie in as long as I can... | 0:01:52 | 0:01:55 | |
I just want to go out and have a good time | 0:01:56 | 0:01:58 | |
and don't really want to think about the repercussions | 0:01:58 | 0:02:02 | |
of having an alcoholic beverage. | 0:02:02 | 0:02:04 | |
Listen, hats off for being able to say the word repercussions | 0:02:04 | 0:02:07 | |
at one o'clock in the morning on a Saturday night! | 0:02:07 | 0:02:10 | |
Sundays used to be probably the most special day of the week for people. | 0:02:11 | 0:02:16 | |
Do Sundays have any kind of religious significance for you? | 0:02:16 | 0:02:20 | |
Mmm...no, no not really. | 0:02:20 | 0:02:24 | |
You'd have to get dressed up in your best, go to Mass, | 0:02:24 | 0:02:27 | |
and then have your Sunday dinner and all round with family, | 0:02:27 | 0:02:30 | |
but it's not the same now. | 0:02:30 | 0:02:33 | |
I'm going to work in Magaluf all summer, | 0:02:33 | 0:02:34 | |
so being a Christian isn't really an option at the minute... | 0:02:34 | 0:02:38 | |
And so begins another Ulster Sunday. | 0:02:38 | 0:02:41 | |
It's 8am on a sunny Sunday morning in Belfast. | 0:02:50 | 0:02:53 | |
# Sunday morning... # | 0:02:54 | 0:02:58 | |
And the unique atmosphere is exactly as I remember it from my youth. | 0:02:58 | 0:03:03 | |
As the poet Billy Wordsworth once said, | 0:03:03 | 0:03:05 | |
"Dear God, the very houses seem asleep, | 0:03:05 | 0:03:08 | |
"and all that mighty heart is lying still". | 0:03:08 | 0:03:12 | |
Mind you, there are some people in Northern Ireland | 0:03:12 | 0:03:14 | |
who've always found Sundays just a little bit boring. | 0:03:14 | 0:03:18 | |
The day the North stood still! | 0:03:18 | 0:03:21 | |
But is Sunday still a snoozefest | 0:03:23 | 0:03:25 | |
in the regenerated peaceful and prosperous Ulster? | 0:03:25 | 0:03:29 | |
And call me an even-handed fool, | 0:03:29 | 0:03:31 | |
but I want to see how both of the big religious communities | 0:03:31 | 0:03:34 | |
spend the sacred seventh day. | 0:03:34 | 0:03:36 | |
The Bible says call the Sabbath a delight and we do call it a delight. | 0:03:36 | 0:03:40 | |
Delight for many on the Sabbath | 0:03:40 | 0:03:42 | |
can come from words that are less than holy. | 0:03:42 | 0:03:46 | |
Any of the stories over the past few years which have been big sellers, | 0:03:46 | 0:03:49 | |
probably would involve sex, politics, power and religion. | 0:03:49 | 0:03:53 | |
And then there's the eye-popping Sunday Spectaculars | 0:03:53 | 0:03:56 | |
that could NEVER have happened in my day... | 0:03:56 | 0:03:59 | |
We always say at the top of the show, expect the unexpected. | 0:03:59 | 0:04:02 | |
But let's begin by getting to the roots of our old sedate Sundays, | 0:04:05 | 0:04:09 | |
and it all goes back to the Good Book. | 0:04:09 | 0:04:12 | |
The seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord thy God. | 0:04:12 | 0:04:15 | |
In it thou shalt not do any work, | 0:04:15 | 0:04:17 | |
thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, | 0:04:17 | 0:04:20 | |
thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, | 0:04:20 | 0:04:23 | |
nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger | 0:04:23 | 0:04:26 | |
that is within thy gates. | 0:04:26 | 0:04:28 | |
That'll get you out of that shift at Tescos. | 0:04:30 | 0:04:33 | |
Infamously, the authorities here used to lock up | 0:04:33 | 0:04:36 | |
the kids' swings on a Sunday. | 0:04:36 | 0:04:38 | |
Such strictness is a thing of the past, | 0:04:38 | 0:04:40 | |
but many still respect the Lord's day. | 0:04:40 | 0:04:44 | |
So I went to Conor to meet the Reverend Richard Murray, | 0:04:44 | 0:04:47 | |
for tea, buns and to touch on matters biblical. | 0:04:47 | 0:04:50 | |
-Reverend Murray, I presume? -Yes? | 0:04:52 | 0:04:54 | |
-Peter Curran. -Good to meet you. -You too. | 0:04:54 | 0:04:56 | |
-You're welcome to Conor. -Thank you. -It's good to have you here. | 0:04:56 | 0:04:59 | |
-Thanks for seeing us on a Saturday. -Not at all, you're very welcome. | 0:04:59 | 0:05:02 | |
May we come in and see you prepare for the day tomorrow? | 0:05:02 | 0:05:05 | |
-Come ahead. -Lovely. | 0:05:05 | 0:05:06 | |
The Reverend Murray is a member of The Lords Day Observance Society | 0:05:06 | 0:05:10 | |
and believes in preserving Sunday as a God-ordained day of rest. | 0:05:10 | 0:05:14 | |
And that means no film crews in the house, | 0:05:14 | 0:05:17 | |
so we came to see him on a Saturday | 0:05:17 | 0:05:18 | |
as he prepared for the Sabbath. | 0:05:18 | 0:05:21 | |
So, what wouldn't you do on a Sunday? | 0:05:21 | 0:05:24 | |
On a Sunday we wouldn't go the shops at all. | 0:05:24 | 0:05:29 | |
We wouldn't watch television. | 0:05:29 | 0:05:31 | |
We would try to avoid public transport. | 0:05:31 | 0:05:33 | |
It's simply a way of trying not to let other people have to work | 0:05:33 | 0:05:37 | |
and also a way of just keeping ourselves just for worshipping God. | 0:05:37 | 0:05:42 | |
The Ballymena area was always seen as Ulster's Bible Belt - | 0:05:44 | 0:05:48 | |
and braces - but these days, even here, | 0:05:48 | 0:05:51 | |
Sunday is a shopping day for many people. | 0:05:51 | 0:05:54 | |
The shops are just allowed to be open and there's sport happens | 0:05:54 | 0:05:57 | |
and there has been an erosion... | 0:05:57 | 0:06:00 | |
But yet there doesn't seem to be a very vocal protest. | 0:06:00 | 0:06:04 | |
People just don't listen any more and no matter how much we protest | 0:06:04 | 0:06:07 | |
they're just going to carry on with their agenda. | 0:06:07 | 0:06:10 | |
But it never gets to the point where you think, | 0:06:10 | 0:06:12 | |
"We might be wrong"? | 0:06:12 | 0:06:14 | |
No. We take our stand upon the unchanging word of God, | 0:06:14 | 0:06:17 | |
and the Commandments were written in stone after all, | 0:06:17 | 0:06:20 | |
they weren't written on paper to be ripped up, | 0:06:20 | 0:06:22 | |
they were written in stone, so we believe that they're there | 0:06:22 | 0:06:25 | |
and they're fixed for eternity. | 0:06:25 | 0:06:27 | |
There can be wind erosion, though, | 0:06:29 | 0:06:30 | |
that can take the letters off stones sometimes! | 0:06:30 | 0:06:34 | |
Do you feel that Sundays are always going to be significant | 0:06:36 | 0:06:39 | |
for Protestant people in this part of the world | 0:06:39 | 0:06:43 | |
or around Ballymena or are we on the road to nowhere? | 0:06:43 | 0:06:48 | |
I think for Protestant people | 0:06:48 | 0:06:50 | |
the Lord's day will always be significant. | 0:06:50 | 0:06:53 | |
It is the fourth of the Ten Commandments... | 0:06:53 | 0:06:56 | |
..there are ten, not nine, commandments and yes, | 0:06:56 | 0:06:59 | |
things HAVE slipped, but we believe with a revival | 0:06:59 | 0:07:02 | |
of genuine Christianity there will once again | 0:07:02 | 0:07:05 | |
be the implementation of laws, like trading laws | 0:07:05 | 0:07:09 | |
or whatever it is to protect the Lord's day. | 0:07:09 | 0:07:12 | |
Is it an easy thing for you to do on Sunday | 0:07:12 | 0:07:14 | |
to devote yourself to prayer and going for a walk | 0:07:14 | 0:07:18 | |
rather than entertaining yourself or is it a struggle? | 0:07:18 | 0:07:21 | |
No, it's not a struggle because, as a committed Christian | 0:07:21 | 0:07:25 | |
you just want to spend time with the Lord and with the Lord's people... | 0:07:25 | 0:07:29 | |
and it's not a struggle at all. | 0:07:29 | 0:07:31 | |
-Really? -No, not at all. | 0:07:31 | 0:07:33 | |
The Bible says call the Sabbath a delight | 0:07:33 | 0:07:37 | |
and we do call it a delight. | 0:07:37 | 0:07:39 | |
But what about all the young dudes of Ballymena? | 0:07:41 | 0:07:44 | |
In the age of an internet social life | 0:07:44 | 0:07:46 | |
and manic texting, do they really delight in the Lord's day? | 0:07:46 | 0:07:50 | |
Are Sundays a day that you might look forward to, | 0:07:52 | 0:07:55 | |
in terms of your faith, but dread as teenagers? | 0:07:55 | 0:07:59 | |
I do like it... I do, I think it's a really good day | 0:07:59 | 0:08:01 | |
and I have a good time on a Sunday, to be honest. | 0:08:01 | 0:08:04 | |
You've got to remember it's God's day, | 0:08:04 | 0:08:06 | |
so you have to spend time with God. | 0:08:06 | 0:08:08 | |
Have you noticed that people outside your church and school community | 0:08:09 | 0:08:14 | |
are understanding of your faith or do they think it's strange? | 0:08:14 | 0:08:19 | |
I suppose there's a number who see it as a wee bit weird... | 0:08:19 | 0:08:23 | |
kind of like not living your life, so to speak, | 0:08:23 | 0:08:27 | |
then there is other ones who respect we have a faith. | 0:08:27 | 0:08:32 | |
They're going out, they're clubbing, and we're sitting in | 0:08:33 | 0:08:36 | |
and they invite you and say, "Why're you not doing this?" | 0:08:36 | 0:08:38 | |
and we say, "We're Christians. We don't believe it's the right thing to do." | 0:08:38 | 0:08:42 | |
Yeah, there would be that element of everyone thinks you're strange. | 0:08:42 | 0:08:46 | |
I'm really interested in how you think life is going to develop | 0:08:46 | 0:08:51 | |
for your faith and for Sundays over the next 10 or 20 years, | 0:08:51 | 0:08:55 | |
given that it's such a time of change at the moment. | 0:08:55 | 0:08:59 | |
It's like our responsibility to try to change it back to how it was | 0:08:59 | 0:09:03 | |
and try and make sure that they don't all open on a Sunday | 0:09:03 | 0:09:06 | |
and Sunday becomes like every other day. | 0:09:06 | 0:09:09 | |
The world is becoming more secular | 0:09:13 | 0:09:15 | |
and religion is trying to be more accessible... | 0:09:15 | 0:09:18 | |
I've actually seen with mine own eyes | 0:09:18 | 0:09:20 | |
a vicar in a denim waist-coat... | 0:09:20 | 0:09:23 | |
So, there's an attractive resolve to this corner of Country Antrim | 0:09:23 | 0:09:28 | |
where they're still trying to keep Sunday special. | 0:09:28 | 0:09:31 | |
But for the Keep Sunday Special squad, it's been a losing battle. | 0:09:33 | 0:09:37 | |
In 1995, our leaders thought to ask people in Northern Ireland | 0:09:37 | 0:09:40 | |
if they'd welcome the shops and businesses trading on a Sunday. | 0:09:40 | 0:09:44 | |
And a majority of us replied, "What time do you open?!". | 0:09:44 | 0:09:48 | |
What about working on a Sunday? Is that not a real drag? | 0:09:58 | 0:10:00 | |
Would you not prefer to be lying in, playing footsie with each other, reading the papers? | 0:10:00 | 0:10:05 | |
Need the mortgage paying. | 0:10:05 | 0:10:06 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:10:06 | 0:10:08 | |
No, I enjoy working on a Sunday, it doesn't bother me. | 0:10:08 | 0:10:13 | |
I work every day, my favourite days are Friday, Saturday, Sunday. | 0:10:13 | 0:10:17 | |
On Friday afternoon through to Sunday | 0:10:17 | 0:10:19 | |
we get a lot of people from the UK coming, | 0:10:19 | 0:10:21 | |
from all over England and Scotland. | 0:10:21 | 0:10:24 | |
We've moved on in our society, it's come a long way and why not? | 0:10:24 | 0:10:27 | |
More tourists coming, so, we've got to accommodate them. | 0:10:27 | 0:10:31 | |
It's a new era now, and we don't want to go back | 0:10:31 | 0:10:34 | |
to nobody out on a Sunday, the swings all chained up | 0:10:34 | 0:10:37 | |
and everything like that, no, it's better now. | 0:10:37 | 0:10:39 | |
-Fantastic, thanks very much for talking to us. -All right, then. | 0:10:39 | 0:10:42 | |
Although, unlike the rest of the UK, | 0:10:43 | 0:10:45 | |
where you could be buying a new pair of shoes | 0:10:45 | 0:10:47 | |
or a chicken at ten o'clock in the morning on a Sunday, | 0:10:47 | 0:10:49 | |
in Northern Ireland, the big shops don't tend to open | 0:10:49 | 0:10:52 | |
until one in the afternoon, | 0:10:52 | 0:10:54 | |
thus giving us all lots of time to go worshipping in the morning. | 0:10:54 | 0:10:57 | |
Because, after all, that's what people want in Northern Ireland | 0:10:57 | 0:11:00 | |
on a Sunday morning...isn't it? | 0:11:00 | 0:11:03 | |
-Hello, Sunday World. -The Sunday World and the Sunday Life | 0:11:09 | 0:11:11 | |
battle it out for readers every week | 0:11:11 | 0:11:14 | |
and their success depends on understanding exactly | 0:11:14 | 0:11:17 | |
what fascinates Northern Irish readers on a Sunday morning. | 0:11:17 | 0:11:21 | |
The headline screams at you, the introduction shouts at you | 0:11:23 | 0:11:27 | |
and the picture is a window on the world! | 0:11:27 | 0:11:30 | |
Two newspaper editors, I want a nice clean fight, | 0:11:31 | 0:11:34 | |
no holding onto each other... | 0:11:34 | 0:11:36 | |
but tell us, what are Northern Irish readers | 0:11:36 | 0:11:38 | |
looking for on a Sunday morning, Jim? | 0:11:38 | 0:11:40 | |
Romance! Same auld thing... | 0:11:40 | 0:11:43 | |
tragedies and triumph, that's what newspapers are about. | 0:11:43 | 0:11:46 | |
There's three things we aim to do on a Sunday - | 0:11:46 | 0:11:48 | |
inform, entertain and expose. | 0:11:48 | 0:11:50 | |
If you do those things on a Sunday for people | 0:11:50 | 0:11:52 | |
you're doing your job right. | 0:11:52 | 0:11:54 | |
If it takes your breath away, it's a good story. | 0:11:54 | 0:11:56 | |
Could be a financial scandal, could be a sex scandal... | 0:11:56 | 0:11:59 | |
It could be something which makes you want to pick up the paper. | 0:11:59 | 0:12:03 | |
The Sunday papers here have to gel with the people who live here, | 0:12:04 | 0:12:08 | |
'cos we expose criminals, we expose paedophiles, | 0:12:08 | 0:12:11 | |
we expose drugs dealers, and that's what we do, | 0:12:11 | 0:12:14 | |
and that's why Sunday papers sell. | 0:12:14 | 0:12:17 | |
Do you get a sense that it's quite an edgy hot house here sometimes | 0:12:17 | 0:12:21 | |
with some of the stories that you break? | 0:12:21 | 0:12:22 | |
It is a busy newsground and I suppose one of the reasons | 0:12:22 | 0:12:27 | |
there's so much crime here is because of the aftermath, | 0:12:27 | 0:12:29 | |
the legacy of the Troubles and what the paramilitaries are up to now... | 0:12:29 | 0:12:33 | |
but for a place the size of Northern Ireland, | 0:12:33 | 0:12:35 | |
less than two million people, there have been a lot of scandals here... | 0:12:35 | 0:12:38 | |
and there have been a lot of big stories... | 0:12:38 | 0:12:41 | |
Any of the stories over the past few years which have been big sellers | 0:12:41 | 0:12:44 | |
for either of us probably would involve sex, | 0:12:44 | 0:12:47 | |
politics, power and religion. | 0:12:47 | 0:12:49 | |
# God bless you, please, Mrs Robinson... # | 0:12:49 | 0:12:52 | |
The Iris Robinson affair, | 0:12:52 | 0:12:53 | |
there were weeks we were selling an extra 25,000 copies, | 0:12:53 | 0:12:56 | |
literally selling every copy out. | 0:12:56 | 0:12:59 | |
So, I wonder, when Sunday morning comes around | 0:12:59 | 0:13:02 | |
and you two guys wake up in your bed, | 0:13:02 | 0:13:05 | |
do you have a quiet smile at the havoc you're wreaking | 0:13:05 | 0:13:07 | |
throughout Northern Ireland society? | 0:13:07 | 0:13:09 | |
No, no, at four in the morning I'm like him, | 0:13:09 | 0:13:12 | |
you're waking up, your backside's sweating, | 0:13:12 | 0:13:14 | |
your oxters are sweating, there's bubbles of sweat on the baldy head | 0:13:14 | 0:13:17 | |
and you're thinking, "What did I do with that paper yesterday? | 0:13:17 | 0:13:20 | |
"What's going on the street? When's the lawyers coming looking for us?" | 0:13:20 | 0:13:24 | |
So, today you can have Northern Ireland's randy politicians, | 0:13:30 | 0:13:34 | |
vice girls, corrupt officials and drug barons | 0:13:34 | 0:13:38 | |
over your Sunday toast and marmalade. | 0:13:38 | 0:13:40 | |
Back in the 1980s though, if we wanted sex and sleaze, | 0:13:40 | 0:13:44 | |
we'd have to climb up the Cavehill for a bit of light snogging, | 0:13:44 | 0:13:47 | |
surrounded by the glory of nature. | 0:13:47 | 0:13:51 | |
The odd thing is that compared to the headlines in today's Sunday papers, | 0:13:52 | 0:13:56 | |
the height of the Troubles seems like it was a more innocent time. | 0:13:56 | 0:14:01 | |
Back then I was being brought up as a Catholic, | 0:14:01 | 0:14:04 | |
an alter boy no less, | 0:14:04 | 0:14:06 | |
and in those days, Sunday's saw 95% | 0:14:06 | 0:14:09 | |
of all Catholics attending Mass every week. | 0:14:09 | 0:14:12 | |
But I've returned to find around a third of Northern Ireland Catholics | 0:14:14 | 0:14:18 | |
go to Mass regularly. After centuries of solid numbers, | 0:14:18 | 0:14:23 | |
that's a catastrophic fall in attendance. | 0:14:23 | 0:14:26 | |
For Catholics in Northern Ireland these days | 0:14:26 | 0:14:28 | |
is it more of a choice than an obligation, do you think? | 0:14:28 | 0:14:31 | |
Peter, it would still be an obligation to go to Mass on Sunday, | 0:14:31 | 0:14:34 | |
My own view is turn your back on Mass, you turn your back on Christ. | 0:14:34 | 0:14:39 | |
In the name of the Father, and of the Son and the Holy Spirit. Amen. | 0:14:39 | 0:14:44 | |
And maybe there's varying levels of faith | 0:14:44 | 0:14:46 | |
and that's part of our Catholic tradition. | 0:14:46 | 0:14:48 | |
We're not the Russian army where everybody has to go, | 0:14:48 | 0:14:51 | |
do what their told and not march in step. | 0:14:51 | 0:14:54 | |
So, how do you go about attracting people back into your church? | 0:14:54 | 0:14:59 | |
Or do you just have to observe and look after the flock that you do have? | 0:14:59 | 0:15:03 | |
An American sociologist looking at trends | 0:15:03 | 0:15:06 | |
as to why people don't go to Mass... | 0:15:06 | 0:15:08 | |
funny it's not the reasons like abuse scandals, contraception, divorce... | 0:15:08 | 0:15:13 | |
it's bad sermons is the biggest thing for keeping people away. | 0:15:13 | 0:15:17 | |
..to address the people of Jerusalem. An electrifying message... | 0:15:17 | 0:15:21 | |
A Catholic priest's sermon, you have to be like a NATO pilot, | 0:15:21 | 0:15:25 | |
you've got seven minutes to take off, select your target, | 0:15:25 | 0:15:27 | |
drop your load, turn around, wheels down and land... | 0:15:27 | 0:15:30 | |
if you don't, people are going to start pointing babies at you. | 0:15:30 | 0:15:33 | |
Seven minutes, that's your lot. | 0:15:33 | 0:15:35 | |
It's a warzone out there. | 0:15:35 | 0:15:37 | |
It is! | 0:15:37 | 0:15:39 | |
Although the Catholic Church must be worried about the number of locals | 0:15:42 | 0:15:45 | |
who prefer a lie-in to the Lord on a Sunday morning, | 0:15:45 | 0:15:48 | |
there are some new arrivals who can't wait to get church! | 0:15:48 | 0:15:51 | |
There's a massive number of Polish people now in Northern Ireland | 0:15:56 | 0:16:00 | |
who attend Mass in great numbers every Sunday, | 0:16:00 | 0:16:02 | |
and they're served by a cadre of padres | 0:16:02 | 0:16:06 | |
who fly in from Poland to serve their flock. | 0:16:06 | 0:16:09 | |
Evalina is a university lecturer | 0:16:13 | 0:16:15 | |
who does like to stop for a chat, outside Mass. | 0:16:15 | 0:16:19 | |
What's it like for you being a Polish Catholic in Northern Ireland, | 0:16:20 | 0:16:24 | |
how do the two camps compare? | 0:16:24 | 0:16:26 | |
Peter, let's put it like this, when I came here in 2006 | 0:16:26 | 0:16:29 | |
and I went for my first Mass | 0:16:29 | 0:16:31 | |
and I saw boys in football tops in front of me | 0:16:31 | 0:16:34 | |
and girls in tracksuit bottoms! | 0:16:34 | 0:16:37 | |
And how would you compare Northern Irish Catholics | 0:16:37 | 0:16:39 | |
to Polish Catholics? | 0:16:39 | 0:16:41 | |
Are we different in how seriously we take it? | 0:16:41 | 0:16:44 | |
I think you adjust it a little bit to your lifestyle | 0:16:44 | 0:16:48 | |
and you don't take it as serious as Polish people do, | 0:16:48 | 0:16:51 | |
because some of the rules of the church are too strict for them. | 0:16:51 | 0:16:54 | |
Poland is like Ireland 20 years ago. | 0:16:54 | 0:16:56 | |
And have you talked about this to people of your age | 0:16:56 | 0:16:59 | |
-who are Northern Irish about that difference? -Yes. | 0:16:59 | 0:17:02 | |
-What's their response? -Their response is modern times are different, | 0:17:02 | 0:17:06 | |
we can't live like that any more... | 0:17:06 | 0:17:08 | |
Do you mean like people don't believe it in their hearts, | 0:17:08 | 0:17:11 | |
-they're just saying the words? -Some people, yes. | 0:17:11 | 0:17:13 | |
-That's a terrible thing to say! -I'm sorry. -Unbelievable! | 0:17:13 | 0:17:17 | |
We welcome you over here, then you just run down | 0:17:17 | 0:17:19 | |
the poor old Northern Irish Catholics... | 0:17:19 | 0:17:21 | |
I don't know if they believe it in their hearts, | 0:17:21 | 0:17:24 | |
the way we live means we change the way we can commit ourselves to religion. | 0:17:24 | 0:17:29 | |
I feel a Eurovision Catholic contest coming on... | 0:17:32 | 0:17:35 | |
think of the songs! | 0:17:35 | 0:17:38 | |
But Sunday for Catholics in Northern Ireland | 0:17:38 | 0:17:40 | |
has never been just about nipping into the chapel in a nice scarf. | 0:17:40 | 0:17:44 | |
Many of the men rush to play some blood and snotters Gaelic sports, | 0:17:46 | 0:17:51 | |
and it must be said, that nowadays, the GAA | 0:17:51 | 0:17:53 | |
opens its doors to both communities. | 0:17:53 | 0:17:56 | |
The women and the girls on the other hand | 0:17:57 | 0:17:59 | |
are engaged in a much more competitive activity | 0:17:59 | 0:18:02 | |
All right, girls? | 0:18:02 | 0:18:04 | |
You eat... | 0:18:07 | 0:18:08 | |
you breathe... | 0:18:08 | 0:18:10 | |
you live feis's... | 0:18:10 | 0:18:12 | |
every Sunday, that's all you do... | 0:18:12 | 0:18:14 | |
On Sundays we get up | 0:18:15 | 0:18:17 | |
and we get all kitted out | 0:18:17 | 0:18:19 | |
and we come from feis and we dance from it starts | 0:18:19 | 0:18:22 | |
until it finishes, every Sunday. | 0:18:22 | 0:18:25 | |
Do you still go to Mass in the mornings | 0:18:27 | 0:18:29 | |
or is feis the main religion these days? | 0:18:29 | 0:18:32 | |
I'm ashamed to say but I don't go to Mass. | 0:18:32 | 0:18:35 | |
Skipping Mass is one thing, | 0:18:38 | 0:18:40 | |
but few here would dream of skipping a feis. | 0:18:40 | 0:18:43 | |
There's one almost every Sunday of the year. | 0:18:43 | 0:18:46 | |
This one's in Cookstown and every week hundreds of girls - | 0:18:46 | 0:18:49 | |
and some very brave wee boys, turn up for a jig and a joke. | 0:18:49 | 0:18:53 | |
It's a competitive world, | 0:18:53 | 0:18:55 | |
but one where just to be here, is to be a winner. | 0:18:55 | 0:18:58 | |
They want to please you, first and foremost | 0:19:02 | 0:19:04 | |
and it gives them confidence and builds their self-esteem, | 0:19:04 | 0:19:07 | |
so, it's not always all about winning. | 0:19:07 | 0:19:09 | |
How long have you been Irish dancing for? | 0:19:11 | 0:19:14 | |
-Two years. -Two years. -Two years. | 0:19:14 | 0:19:16 | |
And what about giggling, how long have you been giggling for? | 0:19:16 | 0:19:19 | |
-Seven! -Seven years. -Seven! | 0:19:19 | 0:19:22 | |
When I was growing up, the feis would have been almost exclusively Catholic, | 0:19:24 | 0:19:28 | |
but these are happier days for cross community knees up and arms straight. | 0:19:28 | 0:19:32 | |
In our school we have from both sides of the community dances... | 0:19:32 | 0:19:37 | |
it means these children are mixing with children from other backgrounds... | 0:19:37 | 0:19:41 | |
which is good for them... | 0:19:41 | 0:19:43 | |
Tell us a little about Sundays | 0:19:45 | 0:19:48 | |
where people might go into different churches | 0:19:48 | 0:19:50 | |
but they come together here... talk a wee bit about that for us? | 0:19:50 | 0:19:53 | |
Well, Joanne will you and I talk about that? | 0:19:53 | 0:19:56 | |
-Will we talk about that? -Joanne and I are from different sides of the community, | 0:19:56 | 0:20:00 | |
so we are, and I mean without Irish dancing | 0:20:00 | 0:20:03 | |
I would never have met Joanne even though she lives | 0:20:03 | 0:20:05 | |
five miles down the road from me. | 0:20:05 | 0:20:07 | |
I never knew she existed until I met her through Irish dancing. | 0:20:07 | 0:20:10 | |
And the girls have become the best of friends. | 0:20:10 | 0:20:12 | |
They go to each other's houses and they meet for classes three | 0:20:12 | 0:20:15 | |
and four times a week, and only for that I would never have had the pleasure of meeting you, Joanne. | 0:20:15 | 0:20:20 | |
I can see you're both actually quite moved by that. | 0:20:20 | 0:20:22 | |
Has it made a big difference that you come together | 0:20:22 | 0:20:25 | |
on a Sunday like this? | 0:20:25 | 0:20:26 | |
It does, because you do see that it's a person, not just a religion, | 0:20:26 | 0:20:30 | |
somebody on the other side, and they're exactly the same as you. | 0:20:30 | 0:20:34 | |
Just because of the way that you were brought up | 0:20:34 | 0:20:36 | |
and your religion doesn't mean that Irish dancing should be a barrier. | 0:20:36 | 0:20:39 | |
-As a matter fact, it's broken down the barriers, so it has. -Yes. | 0:20:39 | 0:20:42 | |
This is an amazing place. | 0:20:46 | 0:20:48 | |
It's not only sisters doing it for themselves, | 0:20:48 | 0:20:50 | |
but it's grannies and grandchildren, aunties. | 0:20:50 | 0:20:55 | |
It's a real sense of women of all ages coming together | 0:20:55 | 0:20:58 | |
on a Sunday afternoon, and it's not particularly about the competition, | 0:20:58 | 0:21:03 | |
or who will win the silverware, it's actually about communities, | 0:21:03 | 0:21:07 | |
about sharing an event together across generations. | 0:21:07 | 0:21:10 | |
PIPE MUSIC PLAYS | 0:21:10 | 0:21:13 | |
Everywhere you look there's wee girls leaping like Day-Glo gazelles | 0:21:24 | 0:21:27 | |
and, just occasionally, you spot a dazed-looking young male. | 0:21:27 | 0:21:31 | |
Aye, that's you, son. | 0:21:31 | 0:21:32 | |
And the Feis feels like Northern Irish women and girls | 0:21:32 | 0:21:36 | |
reclaiming Sunday afternoons for themselves. | 0:21:36 | 0:21:39 | |
It's a woman's day out, so it is. | 0:21:39 | 0:21:42 | |
We still have to go home and make the dinner, though. | 0:21:42 | 0:21:44 | |
It's better than peeling the spuds at home for dinner! | 0:21:44 | 0:21:49 | |
Is it important for you to spend time with the beloved daughter? | 0:21:49 | 0:21:52 | |
Och, it is, yeah. She's dancing three nights a week, at gymnastics, | 0:21:52 | 0:21:58 | |
so at night time you don't really get to spend much time with her, | 0:21:58 | 0:22:01 | |
but wee weekends away are good as well. | 0:22:01 | 0:22:04 | |
I love the fact that you will devote hours to an expensive sport | 0:22:04 | 0:22:10 | |
rather than peel spuds and watch Gaelic. | 0:22:10 | 0:22:12 | |
It's a terrible indictment of male sporting pursuits in this country, | 0:22:12 | 0:22:16 | |
and indeed of the lack of automatic spud peelers. | 0:22:16 | 0:22:19 | |
Well, there's a few beautiful restaurants along the way | 0:22:19 | 0:22:21 | |
so they can peel the spuds for us! | 0:22:21 | 0:22:24 | |
MUSIC: "Every Day Is Like Sunday" by Morrissey | 0:22:24 | 0:22:27 | |
# Every day is like Sunday... # | 0:22:29 | 0:22:35 | |
It strikes me that in these more enlightened times, | 0:22:35 | 0:22:38 | |
we put a lot of work into our day of rest in Ulster. | 0:22:38 | 0:22:41 | |
Be it religion observance, shopping with the family | 0:22:41 | 0:22:44 | |
or even a bit of dancing. | 0:22:44 | 0:22:46 | |
And for a prodigal son returning, it's both reassuringly familiar | 0:22:49 | 0:22:53 | |
and takes some getting used to. | 0:22:53 | 0:22:55 | |
Sundays have changed beyond recognition in Northern Ireland. | 0:22:58 | 0:23:01 | |
I feel a little bit like a sleeping beauty who nodded off | 0:23:01 | 0:23:04 | |
about three decades ago in a thicket of thorns, but have woken up, | 0:23:04 | 0:23:09 | |
balder and fatter, in a garden of variety. | 0:23:09 | 0:23:12 | |
Even though we're no longer forced to comply | 0:23:14 | 0:23:17 | |
with others' religious beliefs, | 0:23:17 | 0:23:19 | |
I think Northern Ireland should hold onto the idea | 0:23:19 | 0:23:22 | |
of Keep Sunday Special. | 0:23:22 | 0:23:24 | |
I don't mean in the religious sense. | 0:23:24 | 0:23:26 | |
Even the Sabbatarians would hesitate to padlock the swings nowadays. | 0:23:26 | 0:23:30 | |
But to make Sunday not like all the other days | 0:23:30 | 0:23:33 | |
when you're a consumer or a worker, | 0:23:33 | 0:23:35 | |
when you're encouraged to reflect, to recharge, to have fun, | 0:23:35 | 0:23:39 | |
to experiment. But Northern Ireland has already figured that out. | 0:23:39 | 0:23:43 | |
And for the ultimate proof, | 0:23:43 | 0:23:45 | |
let me take you the biggest Sunday night out in Ulster. | 0:23:45 | 0:23:48 | |
Ladies, put on your best high heels. | 0:23:49 | 0:23:52 | |
Gentlemen, put on HER best high heels, and join us | 0:23:52 | 0:23:56 | |
for the Sabbath spectacular that is Drag Queen Bingo. | 0:23:56 | 0:23:59 | |
CHEERING | 0:23:59 | 0:24:01 | |
For the last seven years we've been performing, dancing, | 0:24:06 | 0:24:10 | |
showing off, because this place just fills with the most excited people | 0:24:10 | 0:24:15 | |
you've ever seen in your entire life. And it still amazes me to this day. | 0:24:15 | 0:24:19 | |
We always say at the top of the show, expect the unexpected. | 0:24:20 | 0:24:24 | |
Because we are men in dresses and we are on stage, | 0:24:26 | 0:24:28 | |
dragging everything across that stage, | 0:24:28 | 0:24:31 | |
and if you walk in front of it, forget it. | 0:24:31 | 0:24:34 | |
-You're fair game? -Mm-hmm. | 0:24:34 | 0:24:35 | |
Unless you're wearing Dolce & Gabbana, we'll let you away with it | 0:24:35 | 0:24:38 | |
but if you're dressed top-to-toe like a complete mess in a dress | 0:24:38 | 0:24:42 | |
you may keep on walking out that door. | 0:24:42 | 0:24:44 | |
Everyone, in your really camp voices, say 'Hi, Peter!' One, two, three. | 0:24:44 | 0:24:48 | |
-CROWD: -Hi, Peter! | 0:24:48 | 0:24:50 | |
Hi! | 0:24:50 | 0:24:51 | |
CHEERING | 0:24:51 | 0:24:53 | |
-Ooh! -Hello, you must be Rusty. | 0:24:55 | 0:24:58 | |
-Yes, hello, how are you? -Nice to meet you. -Great. -Great. | 0:24:58 | 0:25:01 | |
So, listen, are you a bag of nerves on a big show night like this? | 0:25:01 | 0:25:04 | |
Absolutely not. It's just like a normal, everyday thing, | 0:25:04 | 0:25:06 | |
it's like going to sign on the dole, just normal. | 0:25:06 | 0:25:09 | |
When did Rusty arrive on the planet? Was it a gradual process? | 0:25:12 | 0:25:16 | |
No, it was a dare, really. | 0:25:16 | 0:25:17 | |
Tina Leggs Tantrum hosts Opportunity Frocks and I won that | 0:25:18 | 0:25:22 | |
and ever since then I've been performing, | 0:25:22 | 0:25:24 | |
working all over Northern Ireland and the UK, so it's brilliant. | 0:25:24 | 0:25:27 | |
Do you notice a big difference between a young person like yourself | 0:25:34 | 0:25:39 | |
as a gay man compared to, say, the good old bad old days, as it were. | 0:25:39 | 0:25:43 | |
-I'm not gay. -Oh, you're not? -No. -Beg your pardon... -I am! | 0:25:43 | 0:25:46 | |
MUSIC: "Dancing Queen" by ABBA | 0:25:46 | 0:25:49 | |
Not so long ago, being gay in Northern Ireland | 0:25:52 | 0:25:55 | |
was no laughing matter. | 0:25:55 | 0:25:56 | |
Well, I have three sons and I would die if it came to my home. | 0:25:56 | 0:26:00 | |
We don't talk about corruption and doubt like that. | 0:26:00 | 0:26:02 | |
That's all right for England, but not for Ireland. | 0:26:02 | 0:26:04 | |
We don't talk about corruption and doubt. | 0:26:04 | 0:26:06 | |
7 and 6, 76. | 0:26:06 | 0:26:08 | |
So even though Drag Queen Bingo doesn't take itself too seriously, | 0:26:09 | 0:26:14 | |
its existence in the centre of Belfast on a Sunday night of all nights | 0:26:14 | 0:26:19 | |
shows how much the old place has changed. | 0:26:19 | 0:26:22 | |
Tell us about the Gerry that was walking around the streets | 0:26:22 | 0:26:25 | |
of hard-faced Belfast trying to be a gay man, how easy was that? | 0:26:25 | 0:26:29 | |
Gerry being a gay man was easy cos everybody knew Gerry was a gay man | 0:26:29 | 0:26:33 | |
before our Gerry knew he was a gay man. | 0:26:33 | 0:26:35 | |
# Say you'll never let me go... # | 0:26:35 | 0:26:37 | |
Anywhere in Belfast, anywhere in Northern Ireland, anywhere I went, | 0:26:37 | 0:26:40 | |
I never found it difficult because I just love what I do. | 0:26:40 | 0:26:43 | |
-How you doing? I'm Peter. -Nice to meet you. I'm Gordon/Trudy. | 0:26:45 | 0:26:48 | |
Lovely to see you. | 0:26:48 | 0:26:49 | |
Forward slash the woman/man of your dreams! | 0:26:49 | 0:26:53 | |
We've done straight venues, the gay venues and, in a way, | 0:26:53 | 0:26:56 | |
I like to think that we're pushing boundaries in our own way. | 0:26:56 | 0:26:58 | |
We're kind of like wonder women/men, letting people know we exist. | 0:26:58 | 0:27:02 | |
I suppose us mere mortals just kind of stare at you and wonder | 0:27:03 | 0:27:07 | |
whether we've got even a tiny bit of what you've guys have got | 0:27:07 | 0:27:10 | |
inside, you know what I mean? | 0:27:10 | 0:27:12 | |
We know the answer but we'll let you figure it out for yourself! | 0:27:12 | 0:27:15 | |
Living abroad, I've spent years explaining the joys | 0:27:19 | 0:27:22 | |
of Northern Ireland politics and history. | 0:27:22 | 0:27:25 | |
So it's refreshing to be in a club with three striking trannies, | 0:27:25 | 0:27:28 | |
where, to be honest, I really haven't a clue what's going on. | 0:27:28 | 0:27:31 | |
But it feels like a brash celebration of freedom and tolerance. | 0:27:31 | 0:27:35 | |
Everybody's very welcoming, especially in Belfast. | 0:27:35 | 0:27:38 | |
I know it sounds very cliche, but it definitely is the best audience | 0:27:38 | 0:27:41 | |
and you take that with you no matter where you go. | 0:27:41 | 0:27:44 | |
You're always going to have that traditional Belfast bit of craic. | 0:27:44 | 0:27:48 | |
# Say you'll never let me go | 0:27:48 | 0:27:50 | |
# Say you'll never let me go. # | 0:27:50 | 0:27:52 | |
CHEERING | 0:27:52 | 0:27:54 | |
So, Sundays, a day when faith has been peeling away from religion | 0:27:57 | 0:28:02 | |
like the back of an old mirror in which we used to see ourselves. | 0:28:02 | 0:28:06 | |
There's still many people on this day who commune with their God. | 0:28:06 | 0:28:10 | |
Sunday's also the day that Protestant and Catholics | 0:28:10 | 0:28:13 | |
go Irish dancing together. | 0:28:13 | 0:28:15 | |
Sunday's the day when you come down town and play Transvestite Bingo. | 0:28:15 | 0:28:19 | |
Now, when I left Northern Ireland nearly three decades ago, | 0:28:19 | 0:28:23 | |
it was a definitely the place to be from. | 0:28:23 | 0:28:26 | |
Today, rather movingly, it's a brilliant place to come back to. | 0:28:26 | 0:28:32 | |
# Oh, home | 0:28:32 | 0:28:33 | |
# Let me come home | 0:28:33 | 0:28:36 | |
# Home is wherever I'm with you | 0:28:36 | 0:28:40 | |
# Oh, home | 0:28:40 | 0:28:42 | |
# Let me come home | 0:28:42 | 0:28:45 | |
# Home is wherever I'm with you... # | 0:28:45 | 0:28:48 | |
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