Episode 6 Chaplains: Angels of Mersey


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Chaplains are modern-day disciples.

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-Ta-daa!

-Yaaay!

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Who would like chopsticks?

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Excuse me, are you Jewish?

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Have you got any Jewish pals here?

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Salaam alaikum.

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They take the word of God out of the church

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and into the places we work and play.

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When the wheels fall off, that's when people pray.

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They're employed in our hospitals and universities,

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at the football ground, on the street.

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Tonight, keeping alive the memories of children who will never be forgotten.

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We're all here for the same reason, every single one of us.

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So, we know we're not on our own.

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And the chaplain praying for an Everton win.

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The football's got something to do with the church,

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and above all, the church and religion has something to do with football.

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We're following chaplains in the city of Liverpool,

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the work they do and the people's lives they touch.

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Goodison Park is the home of top football club, Everton.

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Harry Ross, a retired vicar and passionate Evertonian,

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is the club's chaplain.

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For Harry, this place is more than just a football ground.

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Goodison Park is Harry's church.

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Well, of course, once you've become a supporter of any club,

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it's a marvellous feeling.

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And then to be invited to become chaplain to that club,

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well, of course, it fulfils all your hopes and dreams,

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because you get closer to the people that are working here,

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you get close to the fans, because you know

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what they're going through, you know what they're thinking,

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you know what they're feeling, and it's an empathy.

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Thousands of Blues supporters are arriving for today's match.

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Harry is there to meet and greet his congregation of fellow fans.

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All right?

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'Everything about me is Blue, except my language, of course.'

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How are you? All right?

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Harry is well known amongst the fans,

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spreading the word of God through his love of the game.

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The church and the football ground

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have blended in together and we've shown

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that they are part and parcel of life

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and that the football's got something to do with the church,

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and above all, the church and religion has something to do with the football.

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Chaplains are often called on to help people through bereavement.

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At Alder Hey Children's Hospital,

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supporting families who've lost children

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is an important part of the chaplain's role.

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The music we're changing as well, cos again,

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we've had Precious Child for the last two years,

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so this is Leona Lewis singing Footprints In The Sand.

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I'll do both of them, then.

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The children who didn't make it through treatment are never forgotten here.

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Today, chaplains Dave Williams and Caroline Ferguson

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are planning the annual remembrance service.

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Then the final hymn, we're sticking with,

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I think, One More Step Along The Road I Go,

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-cos it's a good hymn of hope and looking to the future.

-Yes, it is.

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Hayley Jones is one of the bereaved parents who stayed in touch

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with Alder Hey's chaplains.

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Her son, Ellis, was born with a heart defect,

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and died at the hospital when he was ten months old.

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I know that I'm close to him here.

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Very special place.

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We call it Ellis's little garden,

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cos I don't like the word "cemetery".

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We always make sure it's very pretty and bright.

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Cos he liked bright colours.

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And this is from Alder Hey.

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It's what he used to play with.

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I remember when he first passed away.

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I wanted to have a bed at the side of him so he wouldn't be on his own.

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Then we put these lights up because he always had a light on at home.

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And I didn't want him being in the dark.

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Ellis actually came through an operation

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which I don't think had ever been done on one so small before,

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and it was an absolute miracle.

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And he was actually due to be discharged on,

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I think, the Wednesday, and on Saturday morning he just died.

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And they were obviously devastated, we all were,

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but I can't imagine what it was like for them.

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And we'd become, I think, close, as family and friends,

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and I think that was why they asked me to take Ellis's funeral,

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which was a huge privilege.

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And I took that over in Glossop for them

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and met all the family there and got to know them really well,

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and then supported them during the time after,

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in that difficult time.

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You never expect, as a parent, to have to go through the pain

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and seeing your child fight for his life.

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What we had to see Ellis go through.

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Ellis had six cardiac arrests, and we seen all six of them.

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And it still haunts us to this day. It's like noises.

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You can still hear the noise - well, I can -

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from the machine that goes off when they're going into an arrest.

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I'll never forget on the Friday, after he'd had his arrest,

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he was on that much sedation,

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and I remember the nurses saying he wouldn't wake up.

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And I remember he woke up, didn't he?

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And he grabbed my hand.

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And he pulled it to his chest, and that was last time...

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..the last time he woke up, wasn't it?

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And then he closed his eyes.

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It was the last time we seen him awake.

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The hardest decision I've ever had to make was...

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when they were trying to resuscitate him the last time.

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Hayley couldn't, but they had to have one of us to agree to stop.

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But then it was effectively ending his life,

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and for a while...

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I thought...I felt guilty, cos I ended his life.

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But there was nothing he could do. to pull himself round.

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It was just the worse day of our life, wasn't it?

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The worst day, the worst...

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some of the worst sights that no-one should ever have to see.

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Chris and Hayley have suffered more than their fair share of tragedy.

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They nearly lost their second son, Harley, after he caught meningitis.

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It left him with disabilities.

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Now Hayley's pregnant again,

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but there's a chance the new baby will be born with heart problems.

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The nightmare, it's just horrible,

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that I can't go through losing another child to a heart condition.

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And nobody can say for sure that it isn't going to happen again,

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so in my mind, it's going to happen again.

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And until somebody tells me different,

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I will keep thinking that, that it's going to happen again.

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In a week's time, a special scan

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will reveal what the future holds for their unborn child.

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If there is going to be a problem...

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I don't know how life could be so cruel, but hopefully...

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..it'll be third time lucky kind of thing,

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that we'll have a normal, healthy baby from day one

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and it will go from strength to strength.

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Harry's in touch with over 200 former team members

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in and around the city.

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Today, he's visiting a Merseyside footballing icon.

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Well, we're going over to see Dave Hickson.

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Dave Hickson is a massive legend,

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not just at Everton but of the whole of Merseyside.

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His great boast is that he would break every bone in his body

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for any team that he played for, but he'd die for Everton.

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'As a football chaplain,

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'if you are a football supporter as well, you can bring

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'the Christian message into what you're doing just by being yourself

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'and letting Christ shine through you.'

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-How are you, OK?

-Yes, thank you.

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Great to see you, Dave.

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82-year-old Dave Hickson was a soccer superstar in the '50s,

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a time when a top footballer's wage was just £20 a week.

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This, then, is our forecast of the 1955 Wembley finalists.

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'Widely fancied, along with Preston, for soccer showpiece

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'are the men of Merseyside, Everton.

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'Key man behind their attack is fair-haired centre forward, Dave Hickson.

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'For months now he has been hitting the goals and the headlines.'

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What's the best goal you've ever scored?

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Oh, dear me, that's going back.

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There was a gale force wind blowing from your church to the corner flag.

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And I took it and hit it towards where your church is.

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-Yeah.

-And the wind blew it back, and I headed it in.

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-From there, off my own...

-Off your own corner?

-Yeah.

-Amazing.

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-It was that windy.

-Yeah.

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'For Dave Hickson of the goal scorching feet

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'is the man who can help take Everton to that peak

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'of the soccer season - the Cup Final.'

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How did you feel when you had to hang your boots up?

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Terrible, really.

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In fact, I didn't, did I? I carried on and on and on till I was 77.

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I know.

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-OK, Dave.

-Yeah, thanks for coming, Harry.

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-Look after yourself, Dave.

-Thanks very much.

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-Thanks for everything.

-OK.

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And you give me a shout if there's anything we can do,

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-and I'll see you at the match.

-I'll see you at the match.

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'You're here as a chaplain to be there, to listen, to help,'

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and to be a safety net for anyone who needs you, anyone.

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Whether they're Christians, non-Christians, don't care,

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don't understand, but you're there.

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And because you're a football supporter, they trust you.

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When I had a heart attack, I couldn't help for anything.

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He done everything for me, you know?

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Went up to the hospital, Bill took me to the ambulance,

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and Harry was at the hospital when I was there, when I got there, you know?

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And every day he's come, you know, bar when he was busy, you know.

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He's come to see me.

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Unbelievable.

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Hayley and Chris have travelled to St Mary's Hospital in Manchester.

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Today, a special scan will show

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whether their unborn child has inherited a heart defect.

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The same one that took away the life of their first.

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Hayley's parents have come along to give them support.

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Alder Hey heart specialist Dr Gordon Gladman

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will carry out the scan.

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So, in terms of Hayley with her foetus,

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we'll be looking purely for, are there four parts to the heart,

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the blood vessels coming out from the heart,

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the blood vessels going into the heart,

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any evidence of leaky valves, the function of the heart,

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generally a checklist, making sure that everything

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seems OK with baby's heart.

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So, fingers crossed it's all going to be OK.

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Back at Alder Hey hospital,

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Chaplain Dave Williams is praying for good news.

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I just don't know how they have coped, really.

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I think they're wonderful, they're a wonderful family, and they're a close family.

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I suppose, in some ways, they've been through so much sadness

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it'll be lovely to have that joy, to be able to enjoy this little one.

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We just pray that he'll be well and strong.

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On Merseyside, football is like a religion.

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Everton chaplain Harry Ross is often asked to bury the ashes

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of deceased fans close to the hallowed turf.

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The first question you get in this city is, "Who do you support?"

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And that, of course, is either Everton or Liverpool.

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And it becomes so much part of their life that, when they've passed on,

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it's right that they think, "Let's continue to be associated with the club."

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Fans have had their favourite places where they used to stand

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and the ashes have gone in as near to that as we can possibly put them.

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Today, Harry's meeting Mark Melville,

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the son of a lifelong Blues supporter.

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He wants Goodison Park to be his father's final resting place.

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-Hi. Mark. Nice to meet you.

-Yes.

-Sorry it's such circumstances.

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Sorry to hear about your dad.

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Mark's father, Tony, died two months ago at the age of 74.

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This is where he enjoyed some of the best days of his life.

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My dad used to put me over the turnstile.

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There's many over the turnstile over the years.

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This was the Paddock where we used to stand, round about here.

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-It must bring back memories.

-Yeah.

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Awe-inspiring, you know. Do you think I'll get into trouble

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-if I just touch the pitch?

-No, go on, you're all right.

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Yeah.

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The ashes will go just behind the main notice board there.

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That's my dad with his brother, Chris. I don't know if you remember him.

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Oh, yes, the face is familiar.

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-How are you feeling about your dad and his...passing?

-Yes.

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Are you coming to terms with it?

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You never get over it, you just learn to come to terms with it.

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You just think that you're never going to see him again.

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Then you get a bit, you know...

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-But you will, because that's the Christian message - you WILL see him again.

-Yeah.

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What was the last game he saw?

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The Chelsea game, last game of the season.

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At St Mary's Hospital in Manchester, Hayley is about to have her scan.

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Down you go, make yourself comfortable.

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It's the moment of truth for Hayley and Chris.

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The jelly is as cold as ever.

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'You close your eyes, thinking that, if you close your eyes, it will go away.

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'Just wait then for the answer.

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'I'll hold Hayley's hand, I'll try not to look at Dr Gladman's face.

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'He always says that I squeeze his hand really tight, because I feel like

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'then I know that he's there and I'm not on my own if we get the bad news.'

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Playing hard to get, your baby.

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As you expect.

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'If it's going to be bad, it's going to be bad.

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'If it's going to be good, it's going to be good.

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'Whatever will be, will be,

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'but it's just hard sometimes to think like that.'

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PULSING

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A nice, steady heartbeat.

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One of the big blood vessels coming out, nicely developed.

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Little heart bobbing away down there.

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So, I'm happy. Awkward bits. I haven't seen any.

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I think it's important because you are early that we look again

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in about four weeks, like we did before.

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But in terms of major things, everything's there that should be there.

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-Everything is joined up properly. Hopefully you can relax a bit.

-Yes.

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-Third time lucky.

-Exactly.

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It's nice to know that at this stage,

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baby's heart looks normal.

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We're not used to having much good luck, so...

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any good look we'll take...

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with open arms and it's just...

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so good to hear someone say your baby's heart's normal.

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So far, the future for Hayley and Chris's third child is positive.

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Dave Williams, the chaplain at Alder Hey,

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is first to share the couple's good news.

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-'Hello.'

-Hi, Dave, it's only me.

-'Hiya, love. How are you?'

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I'm all right, thank you. It's just to say that everything went OK.

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-'Isn't that wonderful?'

-Yes, Dr...

-'The scan was OK?'

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Yes, everything's great. Dr Gladman said everything looks OK.

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-'Isn't that brilliant?'

-Yeah.

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It's match day at Everton Football Club,

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a perfect time to commemorate the life of a devoted Blues fan.

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Chaplin Harry Ross is at the memorial garden,

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where the service for Tony Melville will be held.

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There's a story behind every one of these plaques

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and the names on every plaque.

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So, we've got people from Canada, we've got people whose ashes

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have come from New Zealand, from America, from all over this country,

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and the ashes go in here, so they can still be very close

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to football, still close to Everton, as well as being close to God.

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Family and friends are gathering outside.

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Tony's son Mark, his grandson Bo,

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and friends Joe and Amanda Jane.

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Big Tony and I used to travel to away games before there was any M62.

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We used to go round all the little...

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-Villages.

-..all the little roads, getting up there.

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We used to travel to all the away games, his dad and I, years ago.

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His dad would have been delighted with this.

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Just a few moments of recollection.

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Ones in which I'd ask you to remember Tony,

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to remember his life, remember the things that he said and done

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which have made you a better person.

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And as we stand in this place, let's remember

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his connection with Everton,

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his love of that football team as we return Tony's ashes to the ground.

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-All right, Dad?

-All right, Grandad.

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We have entrusted this, our brother Tony, to God's mercy.

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We now commit his mortal remains to the ground,

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earth to earth, ashes to ashes, dust to dust.

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Amen. If you'd like to put...?

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Beautiful, it couldn't have been better.

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I'm feeling a lot better.

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A lot better. It's just...

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-It's closed now, isn't it?

-Mm.

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We've done what we've had to do and he's in the right place. So, yeah.

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-So, do you think you'll be coming back here again?

-Yes.

-Yes.

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-We'll pay him a visit every now and again.

-Yeah.

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-OK, so hopefully it's a good match and if there's anything, give me a ring, let me know.

-OK. Brilliant.

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And any time you're down, call and see me next door,

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-and keep shouting for the Blues.

-OK.

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When I go, I'd like the service in the church in the corner

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of the ground where I spent 33 years of my ministry - if Everton would allow

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a chaplain's ashes to go here, that's what I want.

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Not too soon, of course, but I'd love them to go in here

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because my great loves in life - my love of God and my love of Everton Football Club.

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Today, the chaplains from Alder Hey Hospital are holding

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their annual service of remembrance

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for the children who didn't make it through treatment.

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The purpose of the service for us is hope and remembering.

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Anything, you know, that helps them

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to realise that the children are not forgotten, that they're not

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on their own in remembering them, that other people still do care.

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It's a very, very humbling experience,

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walking that kind of dark walk with them.

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And it is humbling as to how grateful they are

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for someone just to be there,

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someone non-clinical, who will just be there for them.

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And, I believe, who is not there trying to give them answers,

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who's actually prepared to say, "I don't know why this has happened.

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"But I do believe there is still hope in this situation,

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"there's still light in this darkness."

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-How are you?

-OK!

-Good to see you.

-Good to see you.

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All right?

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Hiya, love. Good to see you.

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Look who's here!

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-Hello.

-Hello!

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Chris and Hayley Jones are here to remember their first son, Ellis,

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as they look ahead to the birth of their third child.

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Hiya.

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All right, Chris. How are you doing, mate? It's good to see you.

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She's been sending me updates, saying I should be there,

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I will be there, so I think she's only a couple of weeks at the most,

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but she's hung on, good girl, so they can come.

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It's so special because we've got such an affinity, through Ellis,

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and then through this little man as well.

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And then hopefully through little Archie when he arrives,

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cos we've been asked to christen him.

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That's been in the diary for ever for Hayley.

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We've done all three of the little ones, bless them.

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It's just hard, coming back to Liverpool.

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But we're all here for the same reason, so...

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Every single one of us. So, we know we're not on our own.

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We've come today for this service which rightly is called

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Hope and Remembering.

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Father, bless all those who we no longer see,

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but who are so precious to us and who are safe in your care, we pray,

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until we can be with them again. And bless us all and all those who we love.

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In the name of Jesus Christ, we pray. Amen.

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Thank you so much for coming. It's been a pleasure to see you all.

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Oh, he's out for the count.

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-Out for the count.

-Yeah!

-So, how long to go?

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-Four weeks.

-Four weeks?

-Can't wait.

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Isn't that wonderful?

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If he's not here by Wednesday then I'll talk about inducing.

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-Isn't that wonderful?

-Yes.

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People say to us, "How do you do your job?"

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And I say, "You must remember,

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"we have the happy times as well as sad times."

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And you epitomise that.

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You had the desperate times of Ellis

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and then the news on this little fella.

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But you have been through the mill so much.

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-Thanks for coming.

-All right, Dave, see you later.

-Keep us informed.

-Will do.

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God bless, my little friend.

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Bless him.

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Just weeks later, Chris and Hayley are celebrating the new beginning

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they've been waiting and hoping for.

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The safe arrival of their third son.

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Archie Philip Jones.

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-Philip after your dad, isn't it?

-Yes.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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-He suits it as well, doesn't he? Looking at him.

-Seems to.

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I can see when Ellis first opened his eyes, when Archie does,

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-he looks like Ellis, doesn't he?

-Yeah.

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When he opens his eyes.

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Which is nice to think, because Harley looks like Ellis as well.

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It's nice to think that Ellis will live on

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-in our other two children as they grow older.

-Yeah.

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-Yeah, our family's complete now, isn't it?

-Absolutely.

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-We've always said we wanted three children, and we've got them.

-Yep.

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But very...very happy and proud.

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Perfect.

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