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I'm on a journey around an exotic and beautiful land at the edge of Europe. | 0:00:06 | 0:00:11 | |
I'm in Ireland. | 0:00:17 | 0:00:19 | |
It's a place that's so near and yet can seem so far away | 0:00:20 | 0:00:24 | |
and I've never really explored it. | 0:00:24 | 0:00:27 | |
I'm going to travel all the way around Ireland by land... | 0:00:27 | 0:00:31 | |
by sea... | 0:00:31 | 0:00:34 | |
and by air. | 0:00:34 | 0:00:35 | |
This is incredible! | 0:00:35 | 0:00:37 | |
I want to find out more about this island | 0:00:39 | 0:00:41 | |
divided between two countries | 0:00:41 | 0:00:44 | |
with an often troubled history. | 0:00:44 | 0:00:45 | |
I'll be meeting the enterprising... | 0:00:48 | 0:00:50 | |
Yes, here's success. | 0:00:50 | 0:00:52 | |
Success, excellent. | 0:00:52 | 0:00:53 | |
..and the mildly eccentric. | 0:00:53 | 0:00:55 | |
I just keep getting offered more monkeys, you know. | 0:00:55 | 0:00:58 | |
-You would take more if you could? -Yeah, absolutely. | 0:00:58 | 0:01:01 | |
'This is a land steeped in religious faith.' | 0:01:02 | 0:01:05 | |
What are you doing?! | 0:01:05 | 0:01:07 | |
-Why barefoot? -Well, they say it's the proper way to do it. | 0:01:07 | 0:01:11 | |
'And in ancient myths and legends...' | 0:01:11 | 0:01:13 | |
I meet people regularly who have met the fairies | 0:01:14 | 0:01:17 | |
and you don't interfere with them. | 0:01:17 | 0:01:19 | |
-Don't mess with the fairies. -Exactly. | 0:01:19 | 0:01:22 | |
But in the 21st century, many here are embracing extraordinary changes. | 0:01:23 | 0:01:27 | |
Who would've thought that homosexuality would unify Ireland? | 0:01:30 | 0:01:32 | |
I mean, that's pretty amazing. | 0:01:32 | 0:01:34 | |
On this first leg of my journey, | 0:01:36 | 0:01:37 | |
I'm travelling all the way from the south | 0:01:37 | 0:01:40 | |
up the west coast to Ireland's most northerly point. | 0:01:40 | 0:01:43 | |
I'm heading to Ireland at a really exciting time. | 0:01:57 | 0:02:00 | |
There have been dramatic changes there in recent years. | 0:02:00 | 0:02:04 | |
They just voted for gay marriage, for goodness' sake. | 0:02:04 | 0:02:07 | |
Whatever you think of that, | 0:02:07 | 0:02:08 | |
you've got to see the values of profound cultural change | 0:02:08 | 0:02:12 | |
for an Ireland that is generally considered to be | 0:02:12 | 0:02:15 | |
overwhelmingly Catholic and conservative. | 0:02:15 | 0:02:18 | |
Ireland's so close to Britain but it can seem so far away. | 0:02:21 | 0:02:25 | |
It's just over 60 miles from Fishguard in Wales | 0:02:30 | 0:02:33 | |
to Rosslare in the Republic of Ireland. | 0:02:33 | 0:02:36 | |
Despite its dramatic and painful history, | 0:02:40 | 0:02:44 | |
everybody says Ireland is one of the most welcoming parts of the planet. | 0:02:44 | 0:02:48 | |
If I can't have a good time there, I should probably hand in my passport. | 0:02:48 | 0:02:52 | |
Just a couple of hours across the Irish Sea and we're here. | 0:02:58 | 0:03:01 | |
I better get my bags. | 0:03:02 | 0:03:04 | |
Look at this. | 0:03:09 | 0:03:10 | |
The tourist board has even turned the sunshine on for us | 0:03:10 | 0:03:13 | |
which is very considerate. | 0:03:13 | 0:03:14 | |
Welcome to Ireland! | 0:03:15 | 0:03:17 | |
There's lots of words that spring to mind when you think of Ireland | 0:03:22 | 0:03:27 | |
but faith and identity, I think, are very high up the list. | 0:03:27 | 0:03:34 | |
And I wonder if that's still true today. | 0:03:34 | 0:03:36 | |
Be really interesting to find out on this journey. | 0:03:36 | 0:03:39 | |
I'm starting in the south in the Republic of Ireland, | 0:03:41 | 0:03:45 | |
home to roughly 4.5 million people, | 0:03:45 | 0:03:47 | |
not much more than half the population of London. | 0:03:47 | 0:03:50 | |
Just a short drive along the coast from the ferry port in Rosslare, | 0:03:50 | 0:03:54 | |
I'd arranged to meet a man with a unique perspective | 0:03:54 | 0:03:56 | |
on Ireland's history and culture. | 0:03:56 | 0:03:58 | |
So I've come here to meet an explorer called Mike O Shea... | 0:04:02 | 0:04:08 | |
who explores the landscape of Ireland using paramotors. | 0:04:08 | 0:04:13 | |
And I'm going to join him. | 0:04:15 | 0:04:16 | |
-Bloke in green hat. Mike. -Yes, sir, how you doing? -Hello, mate. | 0:04:18 | 0:04:24 | |
-Simon Reeve. -How you doing? Welcome. -Lovely to meet you. | 0:04:24 | 0:04:26 | |
-Thank you for having us along. -Well, this is it. This is your paramotor. | 0:04:26 | 0:04:29 | |
It's a motorised engine that we put on our back | 0:04:29 | 0:04:32 | |
-so we wear it similar to a rucksack. -You strap it to your back... | 0:04:32 | 0:04:34 | |
You strap it to your back, | 0:04:34 | 0:04:35 | |
you attach the wing, which is a paramotoring wing here. | 0:04:35 | 0:04:38 | |
It's the same as a paragliding wing | 0:04:38 | 0:04:39 | |
but it's designed specifically with more speed for motoring. | 0:04:39 | 0:04:42 | |
Forgive me for saying, but is one essential part of this the...? | 0:04:42 | 0:04:45 | |
Do you need to have a screw loose? | 0:04:45 | 0:04:47 | |
MIKE LAUGHS | 0:04:47 | 0:04:49 | |
No, we usually check that before we start! | 0:04:49 | 0:04:52 | |
-I mean, obviously I can see the attraction... -Yeah. | 0:04:52 | 0:04:54 | |
..I can see why it might be a lot of fun. | 0:04:54 | 0:04:56 | |
What do you get from paramotoring | 0:04:56 | 0:04:59 | |
that you can't get from tramping by foot across the landscape? | 0:04:59 | 0:05:03 | |
Well, I think if you walk, | 0:05:03 | 0:05:04 | |
you get, obviously, a very low level point of view, | 0:05:04 | 0:05:06 | |
whereas when you get up into the air and you start seeing, | 0:05:06 | 0:05:08 | |
you start seeing where churches are based, where castles are based, | 0:05:08 | 0:05:11 | |
you can actually see that it actually makes a lot of sense. | 0:05:11 | 0:05:14 | |
Some of the castles, some of the round towers and stuff, | 0:05:14 | 0:05:16 | |
they're on hills and stuff like that. They'll actually offer, | 0:05:16 | 0:05:19 | |
you know, really good defensive viewing for them to look out | 0:05:19 | 0:05:22 | |
and see what's coming. So it's a whole other perspective. | 0:05:22 | 0:05:24 | |
Now, look, somebody's had the crazy idea | 0:05:24 | 0:05:27 | |
that I'm going to come up with you | 0:05:27 | 0:05:29 | |
and see you in action on one of these | 0:05:29 | 0:05:31 | |
and you've got your mate Kester over here. | 0:05:31 | 0:05:34 | |
-This is Kester. So, Kester... -Hello, Kester! | 0:05:34 | 0:05:36 | |
'As a complete novice, I was flying in tandem with Kester Haynes, | 0:05:39 | 0:05:43 | |
'an experienced instructor.' | 0:05:43 | 0:05:44 | |
-OK, if you hold up the bar at the front for me... -Yeah. | 0:05:46 | 0:05:49 | |
Bloody mad! | 0:05:51 | 0:05:52 | |
OK, push, push, push, keep pushing. | 0:05:52 | 0:05:55 | |
Whoa! Oh, my God! | 0:06:00 | 0:06:03 | |
Trying to remain calm but this is incredible! | 0:06:15 | 0:06:19 | |
I was a swift convert to the joy of paramotoring. | 0:06:21 | 0:06:25 | |
Mike was right, | 0:06:25 | 0:06:26 | |
it really does give you a new perspective on the lay of the land. | 0:06:26 | 0:06:30 | |
In 1169, what many people think of | 0:06:32 | 0:06:34 | |
as the first English invasion of Ireland | 0:06:34 | 0:06:37 | |
took place here at Bannow Bay. | 0:06:37 | 0:06:39 | |
It was actually the Anglo-Normans who arrived. | 0:06:39 | 0:06:42 | |
We're coming in now and I can see Bannow Bay | 0:06:47 | 0:06:49 | |
and you can see exactly why the Anglo-Normans wanted to come in here. | 0:06:49 | 0:06:54 | |
It's wide, it's sheltered, there's a white, sandy beach, | 0:06:54 | 0:07:00 | |
plenty of space to get their ships onto it. | 0:07:00 | 0:07:03 | |
Our altitude revealed an Anglo-Norman church built high on the headland, | 0:07:04 | 0:07:09 | |
a clear statement of power and that they were planning to stay. | 0:07:09 | 0:07:12 | |
Wow! We're coming in. | 0:07:13 | 0:07:16 | |
Whoa! | 0:07:18 | 0:07:20 | |
Seems I've lost engine power! | 0:07:20 | 0:07:22 | |
Stay steady on your feet and turn to your left. | 0:07:25 | 0:07:28 | |
Kester, that was incredible. That was the smoothest landing I... | 0:07:30 | 0:07:34 | |
Well, I'm blown away, mate. | 0:07:34 | 0:07:36 | |
I'm blown away by the whole experience, I really am. | 0:07:36 | 0:07:39 | |
Mike! | 0:07:39 | 0:07:41 | |
I'm in love, Mike! I'm selling the car, Mike. I'm selling the house. | 0:07:41 | 0:07:44 | |
Congratulations on your first flight, | 0:07:44 | 0:07:46 | |
-well done. -I have to get one. -You enjoy that? | 0:07:46 | 0:07:48 | |
-Yeah, you could say that. -Yeah. -I feel quite... | 0:07:48 | 0:07:51 | |
I feel quite euphoric. | 0:07:51 | 0:07:52 | |
I think I need a hug. | 0:07:52 | 0:07:54 | |
Many historians say the landing here | 0:07:55 | 0:07:58 | |
led to centuries of English occupation, | 0:07:58 | 0:08:00 | |
but that wasn't how it began. | 0:08:00 | 0:08:02 | |
So strange to be here, | 0:08:02 | 0:08:05 | |
to think that 850 years ago, | 0:08:05 | 0:08:08 | |
this is where the English first arrived, where they invaded. | 0:08:08 | 0:08:14 | |
I say invaded, | 0:08:16 | 0:08:18 | |
they were basically invited in. | 0:08:18 | 0:08:20 | |
And they weren't just the English, they were Anglo-Normans, | 0:08:20 | 0:08:24 | |
a lot of them were French. | 0:08:24 | 0:08:26 | |
The invading foreign mercenaries were invited in by an Irish chieftain | 0:08:26 | 0:08:30 | |
who wanted help to defeat his enemies. | 0:08:30 | 0:08:33 | |
It BECAME an English occupation but it started out as something else. | 0:08:33 | 0:08:37 | |
A century after the Battle of Hastings | 0:08:37 | 0:08:39 | |
and the Norman conquest of England, | 0:08:39 | 0:08:44 | |
it was Ireland's turn. | 0:08:44 | 0:08:46 | |
This was one of the first Norman churches in Ireland. | 0:08:46 | 0:08:50 | |
This is a church of course, but it's also a memorial. | 0:09:03 | 0:09:08 | |
It marks the spot where Irish history was changed forever. | 0:09:09 | 0:09:14 | |
The invasion led to what many Irish would see | 0:09:14 | 0:09:17 | |
as centuries of colonisation and subjugation by the English. | 0:09:17 | 0:09:23 | |
There's really nowhere closer to England | 0:09:23 | 0:09:26 | |
that the English treated quite so badly as Ireland and the Irish. | 0:09:26 | 0:09:31 | |
Part of what lured the Anglo-Normans here initially | 0:09:34 | 0:09:37 | |
were the huge tracks of fertile farmland on the island. | 0:09:37 | 0:09:40 | |
I wanted to see what they'd been after. | 0:09:48 | 0:09:50 | |
I headed to one of the best areas of farmland in Europe. | 0:09:50 | 0:09:53 | |
To get from County Wexford to County Waterford, | 0:09:56 | 0:09:59 | |
I could've travelled 25 miles by road around this bay | 0:09:59 | 0:10:03 | |
but it's a lot more fun to hop on the ferry. | 0:10:03 | 0:10:05 | |
Thanks to healthy quantities of sunshine | 0:10:08 | 0:10:10 | |
and occasionally just a little bit of rain, | 0:10:10 | 0:10:13 | |
Ireland's been famous for its dairy products for more than 1,000 years. | 0:10:13 | 0:10:16 | |
Those cliches about the Emerald Isle really are true. | 0:10:18 | 0:10:21 | |
Ireland is very green. | 0:10:21 | 0:10:23 | |
Ireland has been exporting butter right back to the time of St Patrick. | 0:10:27 | 0:10:33 | |
I'm now heading into an area called the Golden Vale | 0:10:34 | 0:10:38 | |
and I am off to meet a farmer. | 0:10:38 | 0:10:40 | |
The Golden Vale is an area of fertile pastures | 0:10:42 | 0:10:45 | |
spanning the counties of Limerick, Tipperary and Cork. | 0:10:45 | 0:10:48 | |
It's home to some of Ireland's leading dairy farmers. | 0:10:48 | 0:10:51 | |
This is lovely. | 0:10:53 | 0:10:54 | |
-Hello. Pat? -Hello, welcome. | 0:10:59 | 0:11:02 | |
Simon Reeves. Hello. | 0:11:02 | 0:11:04 | |
'Pat Mulrooney has been farming here for more than 40 years.' | 0:11:04 | 0:11:08 | |
-You're hoovering the kitchen! -I escaped, | 0:11:08 | 0:11:11 | |
I don't have to do it. | 0:11:11 | 0:11:12 | |
Oh, come on, let's escape. | 0:11:12 | 0:11:14 | |
'He's done a few unconventional things that have earned him | 0:11:14 | 0:11:17 | |
'a reputation as a bit of a maverick.' | 0:11:17 | 0:11:20 | |
I believe you've also got an absolutely crucial farm worker | 0:11:20 | 0:11:24 | |
-here called Gretchen. -Oh, yes. Actually... -Can we meet Gretchen? | 0:11:24 | 0:11:28 | |
You're headed in the right direction. | 0:11:28 | 0:11:30 | |
-So Gretchen is through here. -Gretchen's through here. | 0:11:30 | 0:11:33 | |
The office is there and all the computerised stuff. | 0:11:33 | 0:11:36 | |
-I've heard stories about Gretchen. -Yes. | 0:11:36 | 0:11:38 | |
This is Gretchen. | 0:11:40 | 0:11:41 | |
SIMON LAUGHS | 0:11:41 | 0:11:43 | |
You've got a robot called Gretchen milking your cows. | 0:11:43 | 0:11:47 | |
Well, I should maybe explain the Gretchen bit. | 0:11:47 | 0:11:50 | |
-You see, she rings me on a regular basis. -Right. | 0:11:50 | 0:11:53 | |
Sometimes in the middle of the night when I'm having my dreams | 0:11:53 | 0:11:57 | |
and I don't like it. | 0:11:57 | 0:11:58 | |
So I had to give it a name that I didn't particularly like... | 0:11:58 | 0:12:01 | |
So this robot, if it's got a problem, | 0:12:01 | 0:12:04 | |
it calls you up on your mobile phone and tells you, "I've got a problem." | 0:12:04 | 0:12:07 | |
-Yes. -Right. Oh, my goodness. | 0:12:07 | 0:12:10 | |
So there's some brushing of teat going on, I think. | 0:12:11 | 0:12:13 | |
-Brushing and washing. -Right. | 0:12:13 | 0:12:15 | |
-And now look, the brushes are moving out of the way. -Yeah. | 0:12:15 | 0:12:18 | |
Oh, my goodness. Can't be positioning... Oh, no. | 0:12:18 | 0:12:21 | |
Oh, God, look at that. | 0:12:21 | 0:12:23 | |
Suckers are moving into position. | 0:12:23 | 0:12:25 | |
I can see red lasers flashing all around her udders. | 0:12:25 | 0:12:28 | |
It looks sort of ridiculous, to be honest, | 0:12:31 | 0:12:34 | |
but at the same time it's... It's genius. | 0:12:34 | 0:12:36 | |
-Look! -There we go. | 0:12:38 | 0:12:41 | |
-It's filling up in here. -Yep. | 0:12:41 | 0:12:42 | |
This looks like a huge investment of money and time. | 0:12:46 | 0:12:51 | |
What are the main advantages to you | 0:12:51 | 0:12:53 | |
and to the cows of having a robot in here? | 0:12:53 | 0:12:57 | |
To me, it eliminates a lot of the labour. | 0:12:57 | 0:13:00 | |
For the cow, they've become terribly independent. | 0:13:00 | 0:13:03 | |
What, do you mean they wander in when they want to be milked? | 0:13:03 | 0:13:06 | |
They come when they want to be milked. | 0:13:06 | 0:13:08 | |
So you're not forcing a daily cycle on them? | 0:13:08 | 0:13:12 | |
No, they dictate their own movements. | 0:13:12 | 0:13:15 | |
Pat says Gretchen reduces injuries cows can sustain | 0:13:15 | 0:13:18 | |
on many dairy farms when they're herded together for milking. | 0:13:18 | 0:13:22 | |
The robot fits with his ethos, | 0:13:22 | 0:13:24 | |
Pat was one of the first organic farmers in Ireland. | 0:13:24 | 0:13:27 | |
Organic doesn't just mean no pesticides, it's about respect | 0:13:27 | 0:13:31 | |
and even love for the land and animals. | 0:13:31 | 0:13:33 | |
It's an ethical belief. | 0:13:33 | 0:13:35 | |
Well, this is a lovely sight. | 0:13:35 | 0:13:37 | |
Why did you want to become an organic farmer? | 0:13:37 | 0:13:41 | |
This is a lovely asset, lovely farm and my ambition is | 0:13:41 | 0:13:45 | |
to actually hand it on in better condition than I got it. | 0:13:45 | 0:13:49 | |
I don't want to destroy it. | 0:13:49 | 0:13:51 | |
The sense I get from you, though, | 0:13:51 | 0:13:53 | |
is that the reason you decided to farm organically | 0:13:53 | 0:13:56 | |
wasn't just environmental, but it was ethical as well. | 0:13:56 | 0:14:00 | |
-It was moral. -Yes, moral, ethical, very much so. | 0:14:00 | 0:14:03 | |
I think... | 0:14:03 | 0:14:05 | |
people are going too far in just looking at it | 0:14:05 | 0:14:07 | |
as a commercial operation. | 0:14:07 | 0:14:09 | |
That's not for me. | 0:14:09 | 0:14:11 | |
I want to see the quality food, | 0:14:11 | 0:14:12 | |
I want to see the environment looked after | 0:14:12 | 0:14:14 | |
and I want to see the animal actually having a nice lifestyle. | 0:14:14 | 0:14:18 | |
-We're in rural Ireland... -Yes. | 0:14:18 | 0:14:20 | |
..this is Ireland that I've always thought of as being very religious, | 0:14:20 | 0:14:24 | |
very Catholic. | 0:14:24 | 0:14:26 | |
But at... I get this slight feeling for you that, | 0:14:26 | 0:14:28 | |
I'm not suggesting that one has replaced the other, | 0:14:28 | 0:14:31 | |
but that your organic faith is a belief | 0:14:31 | 0:14:34 | |
that's comparable to conventional religion. | 0:14:34 | 0:14:37 | |
Well, first of all I suppose Ireland is a very different place | 0:14:37 | 0:14:40 | |
than it was 20, 30 years ago. Very different place. | 0:14:40 | 0:14:43 | |
It's not controlled by churches any more. | 0:14:43 | 0:14:46 | |
People, I'm glad to say, have started to think for themselves. | 0:14:48 | 0:14:52 | |
I always thought for myself and I always said I'm... | 0:14:52 | 0:14:55 | |
I'm socially a Catholic. | 0:14:55 | 0:14:58 | |
-It ends there. -It ends there, that's it? -It ends there, yes. | 0:15:00 | 0:15:04 | |
I've always thought of the Republic of Ireland | 0:15:06 | 0:15:08 | |
as being profoundly Catholic but Pat's view is now widely held here. | 0:15:08 | 0:15:13 | |
The power of the Church has hugely declined in recent years, | 0:15:13 | 0:15:16 | |
driven in large part by a series of scandals about child sex abuse | 0:15:16 | 0:15:20 | |
and the treatment of unmarried mothers. | 0:15:20 | 0:15:22 | |
Many of the roles previously performed by the Church, | 0:15:24 | 0:15:27 | |
such as looking after the urban poor, have had to be taken up by others. | 0:15:27 | 0:15:31 | |
I'm heading towards the city of Cork. | 0:15:33 | 0:15:36 | |
Cork's had a tough time during Ireland's recent economical problems | 0:15:37 | 0:15:42 | |
and I'm now heading to a place that's been dealing | 0:15:42 | 0:15:45 | |
with some of the fallout. | 0:15:45 | 0:15:47 | |
This soup kitchen was established more than 100 years ago, | 0:15:51 | 0:15:54 | |
probably by Christians, but today it's run as a charity | 0:15:54 | 0:15:57 | |
by a team of magnificent, altruistic volunteers. | 0:15:57 | 0:16:00 | |
-Catriona, hello. -Hello. -Simon Reeve, sorry. | 0:16:02 | 0:16:06 | |
Sorry to interrupt. | 0:16:06 | 0:16:08 | |
SIMON'S LAUGHTER DROWNS SPEECH | 0:16:08 | 0:16:09 | |
-Hi, Simon. Welcome. -You're a little bit busy. -Yup. | 0:16:09 | 0:16:12 | |
-Welcome to Penny Dinners. -Are you always a little bit busy? | 0:16:12 | 0:16:16 | |
Always busy. It's never any other way. | 0:16:16 | 0:16:18 | |
-No standing around here, is there? -No, no. You don't have time... | 0:16:18 | 0:16:23 | |
Everybody's a volunteer so when everybody comes, | 0:16:23 | 0:16:25 | |
they come to work, like, so everybody's under that. | 0:16:25 | 0:16:28 | |
And the trick is the more you do, the younger you look. I'm about 96. | 0:16:28 | 0:16:32 | |
-Are you? 96 years old, you're doing all right. -96 years old, yeah. | 0:16:32 | 0:16:36 | |
Catriona Twomey has volunteered at Cork Penny Dinners | 0:16:36 | 0:16:39 | |
since her dad started bringing her here when she was a child. | 0:16:39 | 0:16:43 | |
She's now grafting here seven days a week. | 0:16:43 | 0:16:46 | |
Going back about five, six years ago before the recession, it was... | 0:16:46 | 0:16:51 | |
It was just maybe, I'd say less than 100 people a week, you know, | 0:16:51 | 0:16:55 | |
sometimes maybe 40, 50, 60 people. | 0:16:55 | 0:16:57 | |
But now we're feeding 1,500 plus because with the recession... | 0:16:57 | 0:17:01 | |
-My goodness. -..it's growing in numbers the whole time. | 0:17:01 | 0:17:03 | |
Penny Dinners welcomes anyone and everyone. | 0:17:03 | 0:17:05 | |
Morning. | 0:17:05 | 0:17:07 | |
We'll just get things ready. | 0:17:07 | 0:17:08 | |
This is bread that we collect in the evenings from the bakeries... | 0:17:08 | 0:17:11 | |
'Most of the food is donated by private companies | 0:17:11 | 0:17:14 | |
'and collected by the volunteers. | 0:17:14 | 0:17:17 | |
'Some of whom even work here during their school holidays.' | 0:17:17 | 0:17:20 | |
How have you managed to get these youngsters to be doing this? | 0:17:20 | 0:17:22 | |
-They've asked to come... -No, I'm going to make you stand there. | 0:17:22 | 0:17:26 | |
-I'm going to ask them. -OK. | 0:17:26 | 0:17:27 | |
-Have you all volunteered or are you being forced to do this? -Volunteered. | 0:17:27 | 0:17:30 | |
-Volunteered. -Come on now! Is that the truth? -Yeah. | 0:17:30 | 0:17:34 | |
You've volunteered to be here at ten o'clock on a Wednesday morning | 0:17:34 | 0:17:37 | |
-peeling potatoes. -Half eight. -Half eight?! -8:30, yeah. | 0:17:37 | 0:17:39 | |
Half eight you got here. | 0:17:39 | 0:17:41 | |
I mean, it's a lovely thing to do | 0:17:41 | 0:17:42 | |
but it's not everybody's idea of a jolly morning, is it? | 0:17:42 | 0:17:46 | |
I just thought, like, I'd come down for, like, experience | 0:17:46 | 0:17:48 | |
and see how it was. | 0:17:48 | 0:17:50 | |
And then I asked my friends if they wanted to do it | 0:17:50 | 0:17:52 | |
and they agreed. Like, we came down | 0:17:52 | 0:17:53 | |
and we actually enjoyed it. | 0:17:53 | 0:17:55 | |
And I actually love coming down here now. | 0:17:55 | 0:17:57 | |
She's here because I dragged her down... No, I didn't. | 0:17:57 | 0:17:59 | |
She's my daughter. | 0:17:59 | 0:18:01 | |
You've been held here since you were seven years old, working, | 0:18:03 | 0:18:07 | |
-peeling potatoes. Oh, this is a... -And carrots. | 0:18:07 | 0:18:10 | |
..hark back to the 1800s, isn't it? Goodness me. | 0:18:10 | 0:18:13 | |
Ireland's been on an economic rollercoaster. | 0:18:13 | 0:18:16 | |
Following the global financial crisis that began in 2007 | 0:18:16 | 0:18:19 | |
and a series of banking scandals, the economy crashed. | 0:18:19 | 0:18:23 | |
It's started to bounce back but many people have been left behind. | 0:18:23 | 0:18:27 | |
If you had to say what were the main reasons | 0:18:28 | 0:18:32 | |
that bring people in the door here, what would be the main issues? | 0:18:32 | 0:18:36 | |
We're talking about people down on their luck | 0:18:36 | 0:18:39 | |
and for whatever reason they're down on their luck, | 0:18:39 | 0:18:41 | |
be it unemployment, | 0:18:41 | 0:18:42 | |
be it not being able to keep a roof over your head - | 0:18:42 | 0:18:45 | |
pay your mortgage, pay your rent - | 0:18:45 | 0:18:47 | |
be it not being able to pay your bills | 0:18:47 | 0:18:50 | |
so they have to come down here to fill that little gap in the wheel. | 0:18:50 | 0:18:54 | |
Do you feel able to tell us what brings you here? | 0:18:54 | 0:18:57 | |
Erm, loads of different issues, really. Er... | 0:18:57 | 0:19:01 | |
Family problems, family break ups... | 0:19:01 | 0:19:04 | |
Have you got work at the moment? | 0:19:04 | 0:19:06 | |
I was working, I'm not working at the moment. I'm looking for work. | 0:19:06 | 0:19:10 | |
And how easy or hard is that? | 0:19:10 | 0:19:13 | |
It is difficult when you get older, | 0:19:13 | 0:19:14 | |
it really gets that more difficult to get it. | 0:19:14 | 0:19:18 | |
I'm just wondering whether volunteering here, | 0:19:18 | 0:19:20 | |
has it strengthened your own personal religious faith? | 0:19:20 | 0:19:25 | |
It strengthened my belief in the goodness of people. | 0:19:25 | 0:19:28 | |
Because you have no idea how good people are to us. | 0:19:28 | 0:19:31 | |
-This isn't run by the Church, is it? -It's not run by them, no. | 0:19:31 | 0:19:35 | |
And my impression would've been in what I still perceive | 0:19:35 | 0:19:38 | |
as Catholic Ireland that this would've been the Church behind... | 0:19:38 | 0:19:41 | |
Maybe Catholic Ireland was a caring Ireland, maybe that might be | 0:19:41 | 0:19:44 | |
another good name for being Catholic. I'm a Catholic, right? | 0:19:44 | 0:19:47 | |
And I care, you know, and... | 0:19:47 | 0:19:50 | |
But I have friends, you know, of all different denominations | 0:19:50 | 0:19:53 | |
and they care as well so maybe we should have a caring religion. | 0:19:53 | 0:19:57 | |
I don't know, but what I'm saying is... | 0:19:57 | 0:19:58 | |
-Move on from the religious aspect. -Yeah, and just, you know... | 0:19:58 | 0:20:02 | |
And just care. | 0:20:02 | 0:20:05 | |
It's a good point. | 0:20:07 | 0:20:09 | |
Of course you don't need to have a strong faith to give a damn. | 0:20:09 | 0:20:13 | |
Until recently, Ireland was fervently Catholic. | 0:20:13 | 0:20:16 | |
Many think that's a result of people seeking solace | 0:20:16 | 0:20:19 | |
in religion during centuries of suffering. | 0:20:19 | 0:20:22 | |
The key catastrophe in this country's history | 0:20:22 | 0:20:24 | |
was the great famine of the 1840s. | 0:20:24 | 0:20:28 | |
During the early 1800s, the Irish poor were labouring, | 0:20:28 | 0:20:30 | |
often for English landlords, | 0:20:30 | 0:20:32 | |
and they'd become heavily dependent on potatoes for food. | 0:20:32 | 0:20:36 | |
When the potato crop was devastated by blight, | 0:20:36 | 0:20:39 | |
farmers evicted tenants. | 0:20:39 | 0:20:41 | |
Famine then claimed an estimated million lives. | 0:20:41 | 0:20:45 | |
It was one of the greatest humanitarian tragedies of its time. | 0:20:46 | 0:20:49 | |
-Hello, Pat. -Simon. -Thank you so much. -Simon, you're very welcome. | 0:20:51 | 0:20:55 | |
I'm glad you've brought a beautiful, fine day with you. | 0:20:55 | 0:20:57 | |
-It looks beautiful on a day like today. -It really does. | 0:20:57 | 0:21:00 | |
Local historian Pat O'Donovan has studied what happened | 0:21:01 | 0:21:05 | |
in one particular famine village on this hillside. | 0:21:05 | 0:21:08 | |
There would've been over 1,200 people living round here | 0:21:09 | 0:21:13 | |
at the time of the famine. | 0:21:13 | 0:21:14 | |
-1,200 people living up here? -1,200 people living here, yeah. | 0:21:14 | 0:21:18 | |
And there was 123 houses recorded in 1851. | 0:21:18 | 0:21:22 | |
What is a famine village? | 0:21:22 | 0:21:24 | |
People had been evicted and they all just came to... | 0:21:24 | 0:21:28 | |
and built a shelter for themselves, really. | 0:21:28 | 0:21:30 | |
There was enough animals, | 0:21:30 | 0:21:32 | |
there was enough corn to feed the population | 0:21:32 | 0:21:35 | |
but it suited large landowners at that time to make their money | 0:21:35 | 0:21:40 | |
and get these people off their holdings. | 0:21:40 | 0:21:43 | |
So when the famine started, they were evicted from their homes... | 0:21:43 | 0:21:47 | |
-That's right. -..and they came... | 0:21:47 | 0:21:49 | |
What, I presume they came up here because it was common land? | 0:21:49 | 0:21:51 | |
It was common land, they couldn't be evicted out of this land. | 0:21:51 | 0:21:54 | |
There was food here but many of the large landowners | 0:21:54 | 0:21:58 | |
kept on selling and exporting it. | 0:21:58 | 0:22:00 | |
So, people starved and they died up here in sight of food down there? | 0:22:02 | 0:22:09 | |
Looking down at corn. | 0:22:09 | 0:22:11 | |
Looking down to there you can see fine cattle and corn fields | 0:22:11 | 0:22:14 | |
all the time but they couldn't touch it, they were arrested or whatever. | 0:22:14 | 0:22:17 | |
The work houses here in Limerick, there was over 200 dying a month | 0:22:17 | 0:22:22 | |
in this particular area during the famine. | 0:22:22 | 0:22:25 | |
-So, incredible levels of poverty and suffering. -Incredible. | 0:22:25 | 0:22:28 | |
This is a small but still surviving house, Pat. Has this been...? | 0:22:29 | 0:22:34 | |
-This is one of the larger ones. -Is it? | 0:22:34 | 0:22:37 | |
-Has this been rebuilt? -No. | 0:22:37 | 0:22:39 | |
-Mind your head. -OK. | 0:22:41 | 0:22:44 | |
Do we know how many people were living here? | 0:22:44 | 0:22:47 | |
There was an average in this area round here of a family of seven. | 0:22:47 | 0:22:51 | |
For stone seats, there's one here and then, of course, | 0:22:51 | 0:22:54 | |
you have the famous hob-seats, by the fire. | 0:22:54 | 0:22:56 | |
Children or younger people would have sat on those | 0:22:56 | 0:22:59 | |
and the fire in the middle. | 0:22:59 | 0:23:00 | |
Ireland was part of the United Kingdom | 0:23:01 | 0:23:04 | |
but when famine struck, | 0:23:04 | 0:23:05 | |
the government in London did little to help. | 0:23:05 | 0:23:08 | |
Some actually said the famine was a punishment from God. | 0:23:08 | 0:23:11 | |
Pat, who should we blame for the famine? | 0:23:13 | 0:23:16 | |
I suppose the English really at the end of the day | 0:23:18 | 0:23:20 | |
and nobody else but the English and the landlords | 0:23:20 | 0:23:23 | |
which they had planted in previous generations into this country | 0:23:23 | 0:23:27 | |
to take over the land from the original Irish settlers. | 0:23:27 | 0:23:31 | |
A million died, another million and a half migrated. | 0:23:32 | 0:23:36 | |
Ireland's population today is still lower than it was before the 1840s. | 0:23:38 | 0:23:45 | |
But in spite of the horrors visited on them by the famine, | 0:23:45 | 0:23:48 | |
the potato remains an object of affection, even reverence. | 0:23:48 | 0:23:52 | |
I drove to Dingle in County Kerry on the west coast | 0:23:54 | 0:23:57 | |
towards an event I just couldn't miss. | 0:23:57 | 0:23:59 | |
I'm heading now into the rather stunning Dingle Peninsula | 0:24:04 | 0:24:06 | |
and I'm on my way to a potato festival. | 0:24:06 | 0:24:10 | |
The potato originally came from the high Andes. | 0:24:15 | 0:24:18 | |
It grew well in Ireland because it tolerated a wet climate. | 0:24:18 | 0:24:22 | |
Before the famine, many Irish ate potatoes for breakfast, | 0:24:22 | 0:24:25 | |
lunch and dinner. | 0:24:25 | 0:24:27 | |
An adult male might eat up to 70 potatoes a day. | 0:24:27 | 0:24:30 | |
'They still love them. | 0:24:33 | 0:24:34 | |
'This rather jolly Irish spud off is a local competition | 0:24:34 | 0:24:37 | |
'between potato growers.' | 0:24:37 | 0:24:39 | |
I'm being press-ganged into... | 0:24:39 | 0:24:41 | |
'Inevitably, I was roped in.' | 0:24:41 | 0:24:42 | |
OK. Thank you. Thank you. | 0:24:42 | 0:24:45 | |
Put your name on top of the lid. | 0:24:45 | 0:24:48 | |
You're going to be tasting nine spuds. | 0:24:48 | 0:24:51 | |
'On the panel was Miss Kerry 2015, | 0:24:51 | 0:24:54 | |
'as well as slightly more experienced judges.' | 0:24:54 | 0:24:57 | |
-It's water only, no pints. -What?! | 0:24:57 | 0:25:00 | |
No butter, no salt, no pepper because, after all, | 0:25:00 | 0:25:04 | |
we're tasting spuds. | 0:25:04 | 0:25:06 | |
We're ready to roll. Potato number one. | 0:25:06 | 0:25:09 | |
We have blind tasting | 0:25:09 | 0:25:11 | |
and the judges don't know whose spuds are being tasted. | 0:25:11 | 0:25:15 | |
Quite dry but lots of flavour. | 0:25:18 | 0:25:19 | |
We are now tasting the second potato. | 0:25:22 | 0:25:24 | |
Oh, that looks fluffy, I would say. | 0:25:26 | 0:25:28 | |
'It wasn't just eating them, there was also a potato peeling competition | 0:25:33 | 0:25:38 | |
'and in my heat, I was matched with Miss Kerry.' | 0:25:38 | 0:25:40 | |
Are you a champion spud peeler? | 0:25:42 | 0:25:44 | |
I peel at home all the time but with a peeler, not a knife. | 0:25:44 | 0:25:47 | |
Ha-ha! So we have a fairly level playing field. | 0:25:47 | 0:25:50 | |
-What is your technique going to be? -Are the contestants ready? -No, no. | 0:25:50 | 0:25:53 | |
Ready, steady, go! | 0:25:53 | 0:25:55 | |
Come on! | 0:25:57 | 0:25:59 | |
Oh, no! | 0:26:01 | 0:26:03 | |
-20 seconds. -No pressure. -Come on, Simon! -15 seconds. | 0:26:03 | 0:26:07 | |
-10 seconds. -We need more... | 0:26:07 | 0:26:10 | |
-If there's peel left, you'll be disqualified. -What?! | 0:26:10 | 0:26:13 | |
Four, three, two, one! | 0:26:13 | 0:26:16 | |
-Stop! -CHEERING | 0:26:16 | 0:26:18 | |
Simon adopted a new technique that seemed to work very, very well. | 0:26:19 | 0:26:25 | |
So, the results. | 0:26:25 | 0:26:27 | |
In first place... | 0:26:27 | 0:26:29 | |
First, the winner of the blind taste test was announced. | 0:26:29 | 0:26:32 | |
Sean Phapa O Muircheartaigh. | 0:26:33 | 0:26:36 | |
CHEERING | 0:26:36 | 0:26:38 | |
Give somebody the pint and come on up. | 0:26:41 | 0:26:43 | |
'But of course all I really cared about was the potato peeling.' | 0:26:49 | 0:26:52 | |
-The second place at the peeling, we have Simon Reeve. -No! | 0:26:52 | 0:26:58 | |
CHEERING | 0:26:58 | 0:27:01 | |
And, Simon, your prize is a bag of spuds, | 0:27:01 | 0:27:06 | |
from the champion grower. | 0:27:06 | 0:27:09 | |
CHEERING | 0:27:09 | 0:27:11 | |
Ireland's changed. | 0:27:16 | 0:27:17 | |
It's not stuck in the past as many outsiders seem to think. | 0:27:17 | 0:27:21 | |
But in rural Ireland, faith, | 0:27:21 | 0:27:23 | |
belief and ancient legends are still vital to many. | 0:27:23 | 0:27:26 | |
From the Dingle peninsula in County Kerry, | 0:27:26 | 0:27:29 | |
I drove north towards Limerick. | 0:27:29 | 0:27:31 | |
I was heading to meet someone who specialises in Irish folklore. | 0:27:31 | 0:27:36 | |
And I think this, according to the sat nav, is where he lives. | 0:27:36 | 0:27:40 | |
KNOCKING | 0:27:50 | 0:27:52 | |
Oh, my goodness. Oi, oi. Stay, are you supposed to stay? | 0:27:53 | 0:27:57 | |
-Catch him, get him! -Monsters. | 0:27:57 | 0:27:59 | |
-They're feckers. -Hello. | 0:27:59 | 0:28:01 | |
-Morning. -Eddie? Simon Reeve, lovely to meet you. | 0:28:01 | 0:28:05 | |
-And my family. -These are your family? | 0:28:05 | 0:28:08 | |
-Quite new additions by the look of them. -Yes, indeed... | 0:28:08 | 0:28:10 | |
'Eddie Lenihan has spent a lifetime collecting stories that have | 0:28:10 | 0:28:14 | |
'been handed down by word of mouth.' | 0:28:14 | 0:28:16 | |
-You've got to stay. -Come in, please. | 0:28:16 | 0:28:18 | |
Thank you very much. | 0:28:18 | 0:28:20 | |
Now, Eddie, | 0:28:20 | 0:28:22 | |
I hear that you're one of Ireland's foremost storytellers. | 0:28:22 | 0:28:26 | |
-Is that true? -Well, I didn't say that. | 0:28:26 | 0:28:29 | |
Would you like that description? | 0:28:29 | 0:28:30 | |
The only stories I tell are the stories I've heard from old people | 0:28:30 | 0:28:34 | |
over the last 40 years | 0:28:34 | 0:28:35 | |
because the only stories I do tell are Irish traditional stories, | 0:28:35 | 0:28:40 | |
what you call legends. | 0:28:40 | 0:28:42 | |
-Right. -And legends now in the true folklore sense, | 0:28:42 | 0:28:46 | |
things that are supposed to have happened and some of them I believe. | 0:28:46 | 0:28:51 | |
Fairy stories. | 0:28:51 | 0:28:53 | |
Now, remember, | 0:28:53 | 0:28:55 | |
Irish fairy stories aren't like what you normally hear of. | 0:28:55 | 0:29:00 | |
I meet people regularly, old people who have met the fairies. | 0:29:00 | 0:29:05 | |
-Who have met them. -Goodness me, | 0:29:05 | 0:29:07 | |
and these are some of the stories you've collected? | 0:29:07 | 0:29:10 | |
Yes, and for example, the fairies, these old people would say, | 0:29:10 | 0:29:14 | |
are just like us. | 0:29:14 | 0:29:16 | |
They have their pastimes, they buy, they sell, | 0:29:16 | 0:29:19 | |
they have their roadways, they have their habitations, | 0:29:19 | 0:29:22 | |
their places where they live and you don't interfere with them. | 0:29:22 | 0:29:25 | |
If you do, you're on a loser in a big time. | 0:29:26 | 0:29:30 | |
It could cost you your life. | 0:29:30 | 0:29:32 | |
-Don't mess with the fairies. -Exactly. Don't mess with them or else. | 0:29:32 | 0:29:36 | |
A surprising number of rural Irish do still believe in the little people | 0:29:37 | 0:29:41 | |
as they're known, although generally they don't admit it on camera. | 0:29:41 | 0:29:45 | |
In 1999, in a bid to protect a specific bush | 0:29:46 | 0:29:50 | |
he said was important for fairies, | 0:29:50 | 0:29:52 | |
Eddie campaigned to divert a new motorway. | 0:29:52 | 0:29:55 | |
He warned there could be deaths if the fairies were displaced. | 0:29:55 | 0:29:59 | |
After a long battle, he got his way. | 0:29:59 | 0:30:02 | |
-Now, here is the bush. -OK. | 0:30:03 | 0:30:07 | |
The fairy bush. Right there in front of us. | 0:30:07 | 0:30:10 | |
Which one are you pointing at? The one over there next to the sign? | 0:30:10 | 0:30:13 | |
-Next to the signpost. -It's a good sized bush, isn't it? -It is, it is. | 0:30:13 | 0:30:18 | |
Have a look there now and you can see yourself. | 0:30:24 | 0:30:28 | |
Look at the variation there. | 0:30:28 | 0:30:30 | |
Look at how they went around the bush and you can see yourself | 0:30:30 | 0:30:33 | |
that there's a little bit of a bottleneck there. | 0:30:33 | 0:30:37 | |
So they moved the motorway to accommodate the bush, | 0:30:37 | 0:30:40 | |
to avoid messing with the fairies | 0:30:40 | 0:30:43 | |
and creating some sort of disaster as a result? | 0:30:43 | 0:30:47 | |
And I think they did the sensible thing. | 0:30:47 | 0:30:49 | |
In modern Ireland, with church attendance falling | 0:30:51 | 0:30:56 | |
-and big technology companies setting up here... -Yes. | 0:30:56 | 0:30:59 | |
..is there still space for these stories? | 0:30:59 | 0:31:02 | |
More space than ever. | 0:31:02 | 0:31:04 | |
We need a different kind of faith - what people think. | 0:31:04 | 0:31:06 | |
And where people think about things like this, | 0:31:06 | 0:31:09 | |
think back about who we are and where our traditions come from. | 0:31:09 | 0:31:12 | |
By preserving Irish folklore, | 0:31:14 | 0:31:16 | |
Eddie's helping to preserve a sense of Irish national identity | 0:31:16 | 0:31:19 | |
and stories of leprechauns and giants are good business for Irish tourism. | 0:31:19 | 0:31:24 | |
I think Eddie's more than a storyteller who dabbles in folklore. | 0:31:24 | 0:31:29 | |
I think he's a sort of patriotic activist. | 0:31:29 | 0:31:35 | |
We need to have a few strange tales in our culture, in my view. | 0:31:35 | 0:31:41 | |
Be so boring without. | 0:31:41 | 0:31:43 | |
You don't have to believe in the fairies | 0:31:44 | 0:31:47 | |
to rather love the fairytales. | 0:31:47 | 0:31:49 | |
My journey was taking me up the stunning west coast of Ireland. | 0:31:55 | 0:31:59 | |
Recently rebranded by the tourist board, | 0:31:59 | 0:32:01 | |
with some justification, as the Wild Atlantic Way. | 0:32:01 | 0:32:04 | |
The weather had taken a turn for the worse | 0:32:07 | 0:32:10 | |
but it was still spectacular. | 0:32:10 | 0:32:11 | |
It's a dramatic coastline. | 0:32:13 | 0:32:14 | |
Look at the waves pounding the rocks down there. | 0:32:19 | 0:32:22 | |
It's thanks to the turbulent weather system and currents here | 0:32:24 | 0:32:29 | |
and these waves that Ireland's now home to a sport | 0:32:29 | 0:32:31 | |
you wouldn't normally associate with this part of the world. | 0:32:31 | 0:32:35 | |
Surfing! | 0:32:37 | 0:32:38 | |
Numerous boutique little surf schools have sprung up | 0:32:47 | 0:32:50 | |
in the seaside town of Lahinch in recent years. | 0:32:50 | 0:32:53 | |
Here we are. It's the surf school. | 0:32:59 | 0:33:02 | |
-Simon. -Hey, John. -Welcome to Lahinch, man. | 0:33:11 | 0:33:13 | |
-You're very welcome. -Thank you very much indeed. | 0:33:13 | 0:33:15 | |
Thanks for having us along. | 0:33:15 | 0:33:17 | |
-For a surf lesson. -I'm excited to bring you out. | 0:33:17 | 0:33:19 | |
You're going to love it. It's warm out there, Simon. | 0:33:19 | 0:33:22 | |
In the wild Atlantic, are you sure? | 0:33:22 | 0:33:24 | |
-Come on, let's do it! -All right, all right! -Come on. | 0:33:24 | 0:33:27 | |
You see I really feel the cold... | 0:33:34 | 0:33:36 | |
..so I might get another one. | 0:33:37 | 0:33:39 | |
I might need something even... A bit more than this though. | 0:33:39 | 0:33:42 | |
Yeah, we... Peter, we can keep giving Simon more layers. | 0:33:42 | 0:33:45 | |
Peter, can you, mate? | 0:33:45 | 0:33:46 | |
Like, most customers wear one wet suit | 0:33:46 | 0:33:48 | |
but if Simon needs three or four wet suits, let's do it, you know? OK. | 0:33:48 | 0:33:53 | |
We're off. | 0:33:53 | 0:33:54 | |
You can put the boards down here. | 0:33:59 | 0:34:01 | |
Oh, we're a bit close to the water already. | 0:34:01 | 0:34:04 | |
-Great, OK. Now, Simon. -Yes. | 0:34:04 | 0:34:06 | |
-I've heard that you've surfed quite a number of times before. -No, no. | 0:34:06 | 0:34:09 | |
So I've heard that you've picked up this information | 0:34:09 | 0:34:12 | |
from some of the best surfers | 0:34:12 | 0:34:13 | |
so you're going to show me what you've learnt. | 0:34:13 | 0:34:15 | |
-Basically I remember... -Come on, on the board. -Something about... | 0:34:15 | 0:34:18 | |
-Show me what you did. -Something about that you paddle out... | 0:34:18 | 0:34:23 | |
like this. Then you see the wave, then you paddle a bit | 0:34:23 | 0:34:26 | |
-and then you sort of go... -Wow, OK. That's good. That's good. | 0:34:26 | 0:34:30 | |
-Did you hear that? -Yeah, that's good. | 0:34:30 | 0:34:32 | |
John McCarthy's a former Irish surfing champion | 0:34:35 | 0:34:38 | |
who travelled the world for years in search of the perfect wave. | 0:34:38 | 0:34:41 | |
But in 2002, he returned to Ireland and, as is so often the case, | 0:34:43 | 0:34:48 | |
realised that what he'd been searching for | 0:34:48 | 0:34:50 | |
was in his own back yard. | 0:34:50 | 0:34:51 | |
He found perfect waves, met the woman of his dreams, | 0:34:53 | 0:34:56 | |
got married and had children. | 0:34:56 | 0:34:58 | |
My attempts in the surf were pretty pathetic but it was fun | 0:34:59 | 0:35:03 | |
and you know what, I was toasty warm as well. | 0:35:03 | 0:35:06 | |
-It's beautiful here. -Yeah. -But it's not exactly Hawaii, is it? | 0:35:18 | 0:35:22 | |
Why have you...? | 0:35:22 | 0:35:23 | |
How would you compare surfing here on the west coast | 0:35:23 | 0:35:26 | |
to other great surf spots around the world? | 0:35:26 | 0:35:30 | |
Yeah, you know, if you wait around long enough | 0:35:30 | 0:35:34 | |
here on the west coast of Ireland, you will get the perfect wave. | 0:35:34 | 0:35:38 | |
On the best day here, | 0:35:38 | 0:35:40 | |
it's as good as anywhere in the world, maybe better. | 0:35:40 | 0:35:43 | |
A lot of surfers do talk about it as being an almost... | 0:35:43 | 0:35:46 | |
a mystical, glorious experience. | 0:35:46 | 0:35:50 | |
Would you go along with that? | 0:35:52 | 0:35:53 | |
That is the mystery of surfing is that, like, it can appear | 0:35:53 | 0:35:57 | |
very spiritual but, like, if you go out to a crowded beach in Australia, | 0:35:57 | 0:36:02 | |
surfers are, like, they're boxing each other. | 0:36:02 | 0:36:05 | |
-It's like, "That's my wave." -Oh... | 0:36:05 | 0:36:07 | |
So it's actually super unspiritual but, like, on a good day to go out | 0:36:07 | 0:36:12 | |
with one friend and to see creation, | 0:36:12 | 0:36:15 | |
yeah, that's... It is a spiritual thing, yeah. | 0:36:15 | 0:36:18 | |
I'm a Christian, so, you know, the creation... | 0:36:18 | 0:36:22 | |
It points to the creator. | 0:36:22 | 0:36:24 | |
So surfing for me, | 0:36:24 | 0:36:26 | |
it is just like there's an opportunity | 0:36:26 | 0:36:29 | |
to see the awe of creation. | 0:36:29 | 0:36:32 | |
I don't share John's religious conviction | 0:36:35 | 0:36:38 | |
but I can completely understand | 0:36:38 | 0:36:39 | |
why being out in this stunning landscape | 0:36:39 | 0:36:41 | |
helps him to feel closer to his maker. | 0:36:41 | 0:36:43 | |
Ireland's gorgeous, | 0:36:50 | 0:36:52 | |
much more beautiful than I'd thought before coming here. | 0:36:52 | 0:36:55 | |
I headed on up the west coast and through the wild, | 0:36:55 | 0:36:58 | |
glorious region of Connemara, towards Ireland's most sacred mountain. | 0:36:58 | 0:37:03 | |
In the 5th century, Christianity was spread here by St Patrick | 0:37:04 | 0:37:08 | |
who's thought to have been a Welsh slave captured by Irish pirates. | 0:37:08 | 0:37:12 | |
He escaped his captors, studied as a priest | 0:37:12 | 0:37:14 | |
and then sailed back to Ireland, or so the stories say. | 0:37:14 | 0:37:18 | |
I was arriving at the holy mountain on the last Sunday in July, | 0:37:18 | 0:37:22 | |
when St Patrick's central role in Irish culture | 0:37:22 | 0:37:24 | |
is celebrated with a climb and a pilgrimage. | 0:37:24 | 0:37:26 | |
So, look, you can get a stick for climbing. | 0:37:26 | 0:37:28 | |
Three euros to buy, 1.50 to rent. | 0:37:28 | 0:37:31 | |
-Morning to you. -How are you doing? -All right, thank you. | 0:37:33 | 0:37:36 | |
'Thousands of hikers climb Croagh Patrick | 0:37:36 | 0:37:38 | |
'in honour of Ireland's patron saint.' | 0:37:38 | 0:37:40 | |
So this is the mountain where St Patrick, | 0:37:47 | 0:37:50 | |
the 5th century preacher, | 0:37:50 | 0:37:52 | |
who tramped and wandered around Ireland converting people | 0:37:52 | 0:37:56 | |
is said to have fasted for 40 days | 0:37:56 | 0:37:59 | |
while he was busy wrestling with demons | 0:37:59 | 0:38:02 | |
and banishing snakes from Ireland. | 0:38:02 | 0:38:05 | |
'But the first pilgrim I met was not from Ireland | 0:38:05 | 0:38:08 | |
'but the Philippines.' | 0:38:08 | 0:38:09 | |
-Are you offering a stick? -Yes. I'm finished... -Oh... | 0:38:09 | 0:38:12 | |
-So I'm handing it over to you now. -That's very kind of you. | 0:38:12 | 0:38:15 | |
-Will I need it? -You'll probably do when coming down. -You think? | 0:38:15 | 0:38:20 | |
Why did you go up? Was it for exercise or for...? | 0:38:20 | 0:38:23 | |
No, it's my 13th year now. | 0:38:23 | 0:38:25 | |
I'm a missionary with the Columbans - | 0:38:25 | 0:38:27 | |
St Columban, an Irish saint. | 0:38:27 | 0:38:29 | |
-You came to Ireland as a missionary. -Yes. -To spread... | 0:38:29 | 0:38:33 | |
Well, they went to my country so it's now my turn to do the same. | 0:38:33 | 0:38:37 | |
Do you think the Irish have lost some of their faith, then? | 0:38:37 | 0:38:40 | |
I don't think so. | 0:38:40 | 0:38:41 | |
Look at these people here still coming here. | 0:38:41 | 0:38:44 | |
And perhaps maybe the connection with the church, | 0:38:44 | 0:38:47 | |
maybe that's the one that might not be strong at the moment | 0:38:47 | 0:38:50 | |
but certainly the faith is there. The faith is here. | 0:38:50 | 0:38:54 | |
That did seem to be the case on the evidence of all the people here | 0:38:54 | 0:38:57 | |
who are ignoring the worst weather in living memory | 0:38:57 | 0:39:00 | |
and the advice of the emergency services not to climb the mountain. | 0:39:00 | 0:39:04 | |
Sir... | 0:39:10 | 0:39:12 | |
-What are you doing?! Barefoot. -Barefoot. | 0:39:12 | 0:39:15 | |
Why, why barefoot? | 0:39:15 | 0:39:17 | |
Well, they say it's the proper way to do it. | 0:39:17 | 0:39:20 | |
-It's good, you feel good after. -Very impressive. | 0:39:20 | 0:39:22 | |
-And you have a warm bath when you get down. -I will. | 0:39:22 | 0:39:25 | |
Croagh Patrick rises at its peak to more than 2,500 feet above sea level. | 0:39:29 | 0:39:34 | |
You can see the mountain has just rolled out from behind the clouds | 0:39:38 | 0:39:42 | |
and the rain. | 0:39:42 | 0:39:43 | |
That is Croagh Patrick. | 0:39:44 | 0:39:46 | |
Croagh Patrick was the sacred mountain for pagan Ireland | 0:39:48 | 0:39:52 | |
but Christians took it as their own sacred site. | 0:39:52 | 0:39:54 | |
It was something that early Christians did very well, actually. | 0:39:54 | 0:39:57 | |
If they turned up somewhere | 0:39:57 | 0:39:58 | |
and found that the heathens had views they wouldn't let go of, | 0:39:58 | 0:40:01 | |
they would co-opt or assimilate those pagan views into early Christianity. | 0:40:01 | 0:40:06 | |
That's one of the principle reasons Christianity spread so quickly | 0:40:08 | 0:40:11 | |
and took such a firm hold in Ireland following St Patrick's mission. | 0:40:11 | 0:40:15 | |
This is the steep and tricky bit. | 0:40:19 | 0:40:22 | |
It took me more than two hours to reach the peak of the mountain. | 0:40:31 | 0:40:34 | |
The top! | 0:40:38 | 0:40:39 | |
Look at the view! | 0:40:40 | 0:40:41 | |
It's not for the view | 0:40:44 | 0:40:47 | |
and it's not for faith in my case, | 0:40:47 | 0:40:49 | |
though it is for a lot of people here. | 0:40:49 | 0:40:52 | |
But it's for the fun, the excitement. | 0:40:52 | 0:40:55 | |
The feeling of accomplishment you get from climbing a mountain | 0:40:55 | 0:40:58 | |
is unbelievable. | 0:40:58 | 0:41:00 | |
This used to be the most Catholic country in the world. | 0:41:01 | 0:41:06 | |
In the early 1980s, almost 90% of Irish Catholics went to weekly mass. | 0:41:06 | 0:41:10 | |
25 years later, it was less than 20%. | 0:41:10 | 0:41:13 | |
Our Father who art in Heaven... | 0:41:13 | 0:41:15 | |
But many people's individual religious faith | 0:41:15 | 0:41:18 | |
clearly remains strong. | 0:41:18 | 0:41:19 | |
An estimated 10,000 people made the difficult climb | 0:41:22 | 0:41:25 | |
in spite of the awful weather. | 0:41:25 | 0:41:26 | |
I left Croagh Patrick in County Mayo and headed north, | 0:41:38 | 0:41:41 | |
leaving the Republic behind | 0:41:41 | 0:41:43 | |
and crossing the border into Northern Ireland. | 0:41:43 | 0:41:45 | |
Although you'd be hard pushed to notice. | 0:41:45 | 0:41:48 | |
Bloody hell. | 0:41:49 | 0:41:51 | |
There's a road sign in miles per hour, that means we must've... | 0:41:51 | 0:41:55 | |
We must've just crossed the border. | 0:41:55 | 0:41:58 | |
That's bizarre. | 0:41:58 | 0:41:59 | |
There's absolutely nothing saying, "Welcome to the UK. | 0:41:59 | 0:42:03 | |
"Welcome to Northern Ireland." | 0:42:03 | 0:42:06 | |
How strange. | 0:42:06 | 0:42:08 | |
By the early 17th century, Protestant England held sway | 0:42:09 | 0:42:12 | |
over most of Catholic Ireland. | 0:42:12 | 0:42:14 | |
But the north, the province of Ulster, | 0:42:14 | 0:42:16 | |
proved difficult to control. | 0:42:16 | 0:42:18 | |
During the reign of King James I, | 0:42:18 | 0:42:20 | |
a process began, partly to pacify the Irish, | 0:42:20 | 0:42:22 | |
known as the Plantation of Ulster. | 0:42:22 | 0:42:25 | |
Vast tracks of land were given to Protestant settlers from England | 0:42:25 | 0:42:28 | |
and mainly Scotland. | 0:42:28 | 0:42:29 | |
It was one of the most ambitious colonisation schemes | 0:42:29 | 0:42:32 | |
in modern Europe. | 0:42:32 | 0:42:34 | |
So I'm going to learn a bit about the history here | 0:42:34 | 0:42:36 | |
because we're coming to Crom Castle. | 0:42:36 | 0:42:39 | |
The castle is massive! | 0:42:43 | 0:42:45 | |
Crom Castle sits on a vast estate gifted by the crown 400 years ago | 0:42:48 | 0:42:53 | |
to a family who still live here. | 0:42:53 | 0:42:54 | |
-Lord Erne? -Yes. -Hello, Lord Erne. Simon Reeve. -You're very welcome. | 0:42:58 | 0:43:02 | |
-Come along in. -Thank you. -Come on. | 0:43:02 | 0:43:04 | |
My goodness. Now, that's an entrance. | 0:43:04 | 0:43:07 | |
These steps are fairly steep | 0:43:07 | 0:43:09 | |
but so far nobody's ever actually fallen down them. | 0:43:09 | 0:43:12 | |
SIMON LAUGHS | 0:43:12 | 0:43:13 | |
It's a miracle. | 0:43:13 | 0:43:14 | |
SIMON GASPS | 0:43:18 | 0:43:21 | |
It's breathtaking. | 0:43:21 | 0:43:22 | |
Our family first arrived from Scotland. | 0:43:22 | 0:43:26 | |
And the first Creighton, our family name being Creighton, | 0:43:26 | 0:43:30 | |
arrived, married Bishop Spotiswood's daughter | 0:43:30 | 0:43:33 | |
and that's a picture up there of Bishop Spotiswood. | 0:43:33 | 0:43:37 | |
And the first Creighton was granted rather huge lands | 0:43:37 | 0:43:42 | |
out to Mayo and up to Donegal. | 0:43:42 | 0:43:44 | |
What are huge lands, do you know the size? | 0:43:44 | 0:43:47 | |
Erm, I do but I couldn't tell you exactly. But they were... | 0:43:47 | 0:43:50 | |
They boasted they could go from here to Dublin | 0:43:50 | 0:43:53 | |
-without going off their own land, via Mayo. -My goodness. | 0:43:53 | 0:43:57 | |
So, it was huge. | 0:43:57 | 0:43:58 | |
And the west wing belongs to my son John | 0:43:58 | 0:44:01 | |
and so we live in a semidetached castle. | 0:44:01 | 0:44:06 | |
SIMON LAUGHS | 0:44:06 | 0:44:07 | |
-But anyway, let's go on to the library. -Sure, that'll be lovely. | 0:44:07 | 0:44:11 | |
Oh, this is gorgeous. | 0:44:12 | 0:44:14 | |
And for such a large room it does feel very comfortable actually. | 0:44:15 | 0:44:19 | |
-Cosy. -It is cosy and I think books are rather wonderful. | 0:44:19 | 0:44:23 | |
My mother's father, | 0:44:23 | 0:44:27 | |
his sister married Ned Lutyens, | 0:44:27 | 0:44:29 | |
the architect who built Delhi and all that. | 0:44:29 | 0:44:32 | |
And when he stayed here, he used to get upset | 0:44:32 | 0:44:35 | |
because the line of the chimney piece | 0:44:35 | 0:44:37 | |
didn't go down the centre of the alcove. | 0:44:37 | 0:44:39 | |
But I'm not sure it bothers me two hoots. | 0:44:39 | 0:44:41 | |
-He would get upset by that, would he? -He did. | 0:44:41 | 0:44:44 | |
'The present day castle is Victorian | 0:44:46 | 0:44:48 | |
'but the ruins of the original plantation castle | 0:44:48 | 0:44:51 | |
'date back to the early 1600s.' | 0:44:51 | 0:44:53 | |
It feels very well fortified. | 0:44:55 | 0:44:57 | |
It feels like a castle built for conflict. Is that fair? | 0:44:57 | 0:44:59 | |
Well, I think it was definitely a fortified castle | 0:44:59 | 0:45:02 | |
but how much of it is original and how much of it is Victorianised? | 0:45:02 | 0:45:07 | |
The settlers built plantation castles to defend themselves | 0:45:09 | 0:45:12 | |
against rebellion by the Catholic population. | 0:45:12 | 0:45:15 | |
Not surprisingly, the locals objected to the colonisation of their land. | 0:45:15 | 0:45:20 | |
Crom Castle survived two Catholic sieges. | 0:45:20 | 0:45:24 | |
How respectful do you as a family need to be of history? | 0:45:24 | 0:45:30 | |
You still presumably have a sense of responsibility | 0:45:30 | 0:45:33 | |
-towards not upsetting people from any side? -Yes. | 0:45:33 | 0:45:39 | |
Because I think there's a great feeling today | 0:45:39 | 0:45:41 | |
of reconciliation, whatever troubles they've had. | 0:45:41 | 0:45:44 | |
-And I honestly don't particularly want to stir it all up. -No. | 0:45:44 | 0:45:48 | |
It's simple as that. | 0:45:48 | 0:45:51 | |
Lord Erne didn't want to dwell on the controversial history | 0:45:51 | 0:45:54 | |
that the estate is a part of. | 0:45:54 | 0:45:57 | |
But the seeds of division sowed by the Plantation of Ulster | 0:45:57 | 0:46:00 | |
eventually led to | 0:46:00 | 0:46:02 | |
the violent sectarian conflict in Northern Ireland | 0:46:02 | 0:46:04 | |
that became known as the Troubles. | 0:46:04 | 0:46:06 | |
It is incredible, the story of this place and the estate goes | 0:46:07 | 0:46:12 | |
right back to one of the most difficult periods of Irish history. | 0:46:12 | 0:46:17 | |
A time of plantation and occupation and division and suffering. | 0:46:17 | 0:46:24 | |
And where I'm heading to next | 0:46:24 | 0:46:26 | |
feels the consequences of those events to this very day. | 0:46:26 | 0:46:30 | |
70 miles north of Crom is Derry, or Londonderry, | 0:46:33 | 0:46:37 | |
a city of less than 100,000. | 0:46:37 | 0:46:39 | |
Originally a plantation city, the famous walls were built | 0:46:40 | 0:46:43 | |
to protect the English and Scottish Protestant settlers. | 0:46:43 | 0:46:47 | |
But eventually the Catholic population | 0:46:49 | 0:46:51 | |
outstripped the Protestants | 0:46:51 | 0:46:53 | |
and Derry become synonymous | 0:46:53 | 0:46:55 | |
with some of the worst of the Troubles. | 0:46:55 | 0:46:57 | |
It's astonishing to think there was virtual civil war | 0:47:00 | 0:47:03 | |
on the streets here within living memory. | 0:47:03 | 0:47:05 | |
Now, nearly 20 years on from the Good Friday peace agreement, | 0:47:07 | 0:47:10 | |
the city's been transformed. | 0:47:10 | 0:47:12 | |
A new Peace Bridge has been built across the River Foyle | 0:47:13 | 0:47:16 | |
and in 2013, Derry was made UK City of Culture. | 0:47:16 | 0:47:20 | |
A quiet Sunday morning and the only people who are out are cyclists | 0:47:24 | 0:47:27 | |
and joggers, the occasional car. | 0:47:27 | 0:47:30 | |
-Looks sleepy and perfectly normal, of course. Morning. -Morning. | 0:47:34 | 0:47:38 | |
But you think what's happened here in the last couple of decades. | 0:47:42 | 0:47:45 | |
It is unbe-bloody-lievable what they've achieved. | 0:47:47 | 0:47:51 | |
To go from full-on armed conflict to relative normality and peace. | 0:47:53 | 0:48:00 | |
It's a magnificent thing, | 0:48:03 | 0:48:04 | |
it's a shining example to the rest of the world. | 0:48:04 | 0:48:08 | |
And this is the People's Gallery. | 0:48:08 | 0:48:10 | |
The People's Gallery is a series of huge murals | 0:48:15 | 0:48:18 | |
painted in a Catholic area of Derry known as the Bogside. | 0:48:18 | 0:48:21 | |
This was the epicentre of the Troubles here. | 0:48:23 | 0:48:26 | |
This is where the Bloody Sunday massacre happened, scores died here. | 0:48:26 | 0:48:30 | |
Today, the murals have become a tourist attraction | 0:48:34 | 0:48:36 | |
and they're still regularly restored by the original artists. | 0:48:36 | 0:48:40 | |
I met up with one of them, Tom Kelly. | 0:48:43 | 0:48:45 | |
It's such a powerful image. | 0:48:47 | 0:48:50 | |
This is for the anniversary of the Battle of the Bogside | 0:48:50 | 0:48:54 | |
which was a three day battle | 0:48:54 | 0:48:57 | |
that pretty much brought us to the brink of civil war here, | 0:48:57 | 0:49:00 | |
you know? | 0:49:00 | 0:49:02 | |
It's actually a 12-year-old kid wearing a Second World War gas mask. | 0:49:02 | 0:49:06 | |
And he has a petrol bomb or a Molotov cocktail, | 0:49:06 | 0:49:09 | |
whatever you want to call it. | 0:49:09 | 0:49:11 | |
But the police force at this time were well-trained, | 0:49:11 | 0:49:14 | |
supported by the British government. | 0:49:14 | 0:49:18 | |
The people were on the streets looking for very basic human rights | 0:49:18 | 0:49:22 | |
and civil rights. It was civil rights marches that we had | 0:49:22 | 0:49:25 | |
right at the beginning of this conflict. | 0:49:25 | 0:49:28 | |
Your right to a home for your family, | 0:49:28 | 0:49:31 | |
a right to a job. | 0:49:31 | 0:49:32 | |
The murals commemorate Catholic victims of the Troubles | 0:49:35 | 0:49:38 | |
but of course Protestants and many others also lost their lives here | 0:49:38 | 0:49:42 | |
in a conflict characterised by violence and suffering on all sides. | 0:49:42 | 0:49:46 | |
Coming here as an outsider for me, | 0:49:48 | 0:49:50 | |
I've never been anywhere in the world where... | 0:49:50 | 0:49:53 | |
intense situations like this | 0:49:53 | 0:49:56 | |
-are so vividly portrayed on an individual level. -Yeah. | 0:49:56 | 0:50:00 | |
I mean, it feels to me like the community here, | 0:50:00 | 0:50:02 | |
you really do remember every single name, | 0:50:02 | 0:50:06 | |
every single soul that was lost and suffered. | 0:50:06 | 0:50:10 | |
And that in and of itself is a pretty extraordinary thing. | 0:50:10 | 0:50:14 | |
When you're experiencing discrimination and injustice | 0:50:14 | 0:50:18 | |
and brutality on a day to day basis, | 0:50:18 | 0:50:21 | |
then you don't forget. | 0:50:21 | 0:50:23 | |
I mean, they can talk all they want about reconciliation | 0:50:23 | 0:50:26 | |
and peace bridges and how things are wonderful but, you know, | 0:50:26 | 0:50:29 | |
the real root is still there. | 0:50:29 | 0:50:32 | |
What we tried to do as the Bogside artists is to paint it | 0:50:33 | 0:50:36 | |
so that we can look at it | 0:50:36 | 0:50:39 | |
and not sweep it under the carpet | 0:50:39 | 0:50:40 | |
as the tourist board and the authorities would like to do. | 0:50:40 | 0:50:43 | |
And that's all that the Bogside artists have created - | 0:50:43 | 0:50:47 | |
we've created a human document that tells a story. | 0:50:47 | 0:50:50 | |
It's one side of the story. | 0:50:54 | 0:50:55 | |
But it's not surprising that Tom and many other locals | 0:50:55 | 0:50:58 | |
don't want to forget what happened here. | 0:50:58 | 0:51:01 | |
A huge number of people in Northern Ireland | 0:51:01 | 0:51:03 | |
are now working to heal the wounds of history. | 0:51:03 | 0:51:07 | |
In Derry or Londonderry, campaigners believe | 0:51:07 | 0:51:09 | |
the arts can bring Catholics and Protestants together | 0:51:09 | 0:51:12 | |
and help the whole community to move on from the past. | 0:51:12 | 0:51:15 | |
In the early 1990s, Derry had no public theatre. | 0:51:16 | 0:51:19 | |
But with a grant of just £300, | 0:51:19 | 0:51:21 | |
one woman took it upon herself to start one | 0:51:21 | 0:51:23 | |
in order to try and build bridges between different communities. | 0:51:23 | 0:51:27 | |
-Pauline. -Hiya. -Sorry to interrupt. | 0:51:32 | 0:51:34 | |
Pauline Ross is the inspiring founder of the Derry Playhouse. | 0:51:34 | 0:51:38 | |
-Sorry, what's going on here? -This is a youth theatre | 0:51:38 | 0:51:41 | |
from our only integrated secondary college in the whole north-west. | 0:51:41 | 0:51:46 | |
Steve is the theatre director and their teacher | 0:51:46 | 0:51:49 | |
and these are all young students, crazy about theatre. | 0:51:49 | 0:51:51 | |
-And we have one integrated primary school. -Meaning, in simple terms? | 0:51:51 | 0:51:56 | |
-95%... -Catholic and Protestant. | 0:51:56 | 0:51:58 | |
95% of our education system is segregated | 0:51:58 | 0:52:01 | |
and I think it is something... | 0:52:01 | 0:52:03 | |
96% of our social housing is segregated. | 0:52:03 | 0:52:06 | |
-Segregated. -What does that make for? | 0:52:06 | 0:52:07 | |
-Well, it means ghettoised, basically, doesn't it? -Yes. -Goodness. | 0:52:07 | 0:52:12 | |
-Would you like to make some of them? -Well, I would, really, yes. | 0:52:12 | 0:52:16 | |
Can I ask, when you hear, you know, older folk of my age and up, | 0:52:16 | 0:52:21 | |
talking about the past and the Troubles, | 0:52:21 | 0:52:25 | |
does it sound to you like it's from your... | 0:52:25 | 0:52:29 | |
from your world or does it sound as though they're talking about, | 0:52:29 | 0:52:32 | |
like almost from another planet, but certainly another country? | 0:52:32 | 0:52:36 | |
We have, like, the odd bomb scare or someone gets shot | 0:52:36 | 0:52:39 | |
or someone had a bomb left under their car. | 0:52:39 | 0:52:41 | |
Like, just this week or last week, | 0:52:41 | 0:52:44 | |
somebody had a... A police officer had a bomb under their car. | 0:52:44 | 0:52:48 | |
That's not so far from here. | 0:52:49 | 0:52:51 | |
So, you have lots of that. | 0:52:51 | 0:52:52 | |
But I think our generation, | 0:52:52 | 0:52:55 | |
we hear about it but we just want to move forward. | 0:52:55 | 0:52:57 | |
We just want to live in the present and look towards the future. | 0:52:57 | 0:53:01 | |
I collaborate with a school that is an all girl's school. | 0:53:01 | 0:53:06 | |
We would be walking the walls and then she would tell me, | 0:53:06 | 0:53:10 | |
"Oh, I can't go there, I can't go there with my uniform on." | 0:53:10 | 0:53:13 | |
Because that would be a predominantly Protestant area | 0:53:13 | 0:53:18 | |
and her uniform signifies her as a Catholic. | 0:53:18 | 0:53:22 | |
First question you always get asked is, "Where do you live?" | 0:53:22 | 0:53:25 | |
-And that defines you? -Yes, it's automatically assumed. | 0:53:25 | 0:53:28 | |
"Oh, you live there and you're in this religion." It's just not right. | 0:53:28 | 0:53:32 | |
It doesn't sound like it happens in north-west Europe | 0:53:32 | 0:53:36 | |
in the 21st-century, but it's very much still the reality, isn't it? | 0:53:36 | 0:53:40 | |
But we sustained here a 35 year conflict and from 1998... | 0:53:40 | 0:53:44 | |
It's not going to finish overnight, is it? | 0:53:44 | 0:53:48 | |
No, I think you eloquently put it that there's a residue, | 0:53:48 | 0:53:52 | |
there's a legacy. | 0:53:52 | 0:53:53 | |
We don't want to get stuck in the past, | 0:53:53 | 0:53:55 | |
we don't want to dwell on it, | 0:53:55 | 0:53:56 | |
but we need to learn the lessons from it. | 0:53:56 | 0:53:58 | |
Because these bright, young, talented people | 0:53:58 | 0:54:02 | |
need a better future. A shared future. | 0:54:02 | 0:54:05 | |
The ongoing segregation of schools in Northern Ireland | 0:54:06 | 0:54:09 | |
was the single biggest shock to me. | 0:54:09 | 0:54:12 | |
To an outsider, it is disappointing and depressing. | 0:54:12 | 0:54:15 | |
Pauline took me to see another project on the outskirts of the city. | 0:54:17 | 0:54:21 | |
Oh, goodness, look! | 0:54:21 | 0:54:22 | |
-What is going on? Hello. -Pleased to meet you. -Simon Reeve. | 0:54:26 | 0:54:29 | |
-Hi, Simon, pleased to meet you. -Elaine, lovely to meet you. | 0:54:29 | 0:54:31 | |
Elaine Ford coordinates the Street Talk Project | 0:54:31 | 0:54:34 | |
close to the Protestant Tullyalley housing estate. | 0:54:34 | 0:54:37 | |
One of its aims | 0:54:37 | 0:54:38 | |
is to bring youngsters from different communities together. | 0:54:38 | 0:54:42 | |
So, these kids, the majority of them here, are from Tullyalley, | 0:54:42 | 0:54:45 | |
which is a Protestant community. | 0:54:45 | 0:54:46 | |
There's only one or two from the Catholic community. | 0:54:46 | 0:54:49 | |
There's meant to be more. | 0:54:49 | 0:54:50 | |
But they have only started building a bridge together | 0:54:50 | 0:54:54 | |
in the last few months. | 0:54:54 | 0:54:55 | |
This time last year, | 0:54:55 | 0:54:57 | |
the Catholic young people and the Protestant young people | 0:54:57 | 0:54:59 | |
-wouldn't have engaged with each other. -So, really... | 0:54:59 | 0:55:02 | |
Those young people would've been involved in rioting | 0:55:02 | 0:55:05 | |
and fighting on what we call the interface here. | 0:55:05 | 0:55:07 | |
Does it feel weird to you that so little is mixed | 0:55:09 | 0:55:12 | |
or is it just life? Is that just normal? | 0:55:12 | 0:55:16 | |
-It doesn't feel any different. -It's the way we're brought up. | 0:55:16 | 0:55:18 | |
It doesn't feel that different, | 0:55:18 | 0:55:20 | |
because there's been a gap for so long. | 0:55:20 | 0:55:22 | |
You haven't met people from the other community outside the project? | 0:55:22 | 0:55:26 | |
No, not really, no. | 0:55:26 | 0:55:28 | |
Billions of pounds have been paid to support the peace process. | 0:55:29 | 0:55:33 | |
People agreed to stop fighting, but there are still real divisions. | 0:55:33 | 0:55:37 | |
History runs deep here. | 0:55:37 | 0:55:39 | |
Real reconciliation will take generations. | 0:55:39 | 0:55:41 | |
Goodness me. | 0:55:43 | 0:55:45 | |
I mean, it is astonishing just how much segregation there still is, | 0:55:45 | 0:55:51 | |
in the North. | 0:55:51 | 0:55:52 | |
Pretty shocking for an outsider. | 0:55:52 | 0:55:55 | |
Perhaps inevitable for a lot of the people who live here, | 0:55:55 | 0:55:59 | |
but it has to change | 0:55:59 | 0:56:00 | |
and this sort of project has got to be the way forward. | 0:56:00 | 0:56:04 | |
I'm getting close to the end | 0:56:11 | 0:56:12 | |
of this first leg of my journey around Ireland. | 0:56:12 | 0:56:15 | |
But I'm now just driving up into the Inishowen peninsula | 0:56:15 | 0:56:20 | |
which, by all accounts, is completely spectacular. | 0:56:20 | 0:56:23 | |
It's only about 30 miles from the city of Derry to Malin Head, | 0:56:29 | 0:56:33 | |
the island of Ireland's most northerly point. | 0:56:33 | 0:56:36 | |
I crossed the border back into the Republic to get there. | 0:56:38 | 0:56:41 | |
Malin Head. | 0:56:46 | 0:56:47 | |
I've heard that name mentioned | 0:56:50 | 0:56:51 | |
so many times on The Shipping Forecast | 0:56:51 | 0:56:55 | |
and I've always thought it must be ludicrously remote and bleak. | 0:56:55 | 0:57:01 | |
And you come here, | 0:57:01 | 0:57:02 | |
and you find it is stunning. | 0:57:02 | 0:57:06 | |
It is so beautiful here. | 0:57:28 | 0:57:30 | |
I'm just standing here smiling to myself. | 0:57:30 | 0:57:33 | |
Look at it. | 0:57:33 | 0:57:34 | |
I've come from the far south of this island, | 0:57:36 | 0:57:39 | |
all the way here to the very far north. | 0:57:39 | 0:57:42 | |
I've loved every moment and every mile of the journey so far | 0:57:42 | 0:57:46 | |
and it's taught me so much about an Ireland that I really didn't know. | 0:57:46 | 0:57:51 | |
I've learnt a lot about the history and the culture. | 0:57:51 | 0:57:54 | |
Also the faith and the belief of people here, as well. | 0:57:54 | 0:57:57 | |
I'm really looking forward to the next leg of the journey, | 0:57:57 | 0:58:00 | |
which is going to take me down the stunning east coast of Ireland. | 0:58:00 | 0:58:04 | |
I arrive in Belfast, Northern Ireland's capital city, | 0:58:06 | 0:58:09 | |
on one of the most controversial weekends of the year. | 0:58:09 | 0:58:12 | |
My God. Bottles are being chucked. Hoods are coming up. | 0:58:13 | 0:58:16 | |
We need to move back out the way. | 0:58:16 | 0:58:18 | |
And as I travel south through the Republic of Ireland, | 0:58:19 | 0:58:22 | |
I hear a surprising theory that turns history on its head. | 0:58:22 | 0:58:25 | |
You are saying that Cromwell was framed? | 0:58:25 | 0:58:28 | |
I'm exactly saying that and I know who framed him. | 0:58:28 | 0:58:31 | |
With the Open University, | 0:58:33 | 0:58:34 | |
you can further explore Ireland's rich history and culture. | 0:58:34 | 0:58:38 | |
To find out more, go to our website | 0:58:38 | 0:58:40 | |
and follow the links to the Open University. | 0:58:40 | 0:58:43 |