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'I'm going on a series of astonishing adventures...' | 0:00:03 | 0:00:06 | |
Whoa! | 0:00:08 | 0:00:09 | |
It's absolutely stunning. | 0:00:09 | 0:00:11 | |
'..travelling along three of the mightiest rivers on the planet. | 0:00:11 | 0:00:14 | |
'These rivers have given rise to some | 0:00:18 | 0:00:19 | |
'of the world's greatest civilisations. | 0:00:19 | 0:00:22 | |
'For centuries, we've worshipped their life-giving waters... | 0:00:26 | 0:00:30 | |
'..and feared their awesome, destructive powers.' | 0:00:33 | 0:00:36 | |
The current is a killer! | 0:00:36 | 0:00:37 | |
'On these epic journeys I'll meet some extraordinary characters...' | 0:00:40 | 0:00:44 | |
THEY GREET EACH OTHER | 0:00:44 | 0:00:45 | |
'..and experience the very different cultures, | 0:00:51 | 0:00:53 | |
'religions and countries that have emerged along our sacred rivers. | 0:00:53 | 0:00:57 | |
'In this episode, I'll be travelling 2,000 miles along the legendary | 0:01:01 | 0:01:05 | |
'Yangtze, Asia's longest river, from the far west of China, | 0:01:05 | 0:01:10 | |
'to Shanghai where it flows into the sea.' | 0:01:10 | 0:01:13 | |
Yay! We're over the Yangtze. | 0:01:18 | 0:01:20 | |
'For decades, China's communist leaders tried to eradicate | 0:01:20 | 0:01:24 | |
'religious beliefs and ancient philosophies. | 0:01:24 | 0:01:27 | |
'But China's changed and this journey is a chance for me | 0:01:27 | 0:01:30 | |
'to learn more about what people here now actually think and believe. | 0:01:30 | 0:01:34 | |
'Following the Yangtze will take me into the heart of a country once | 0:01:42 | 0:01:45 | |
'cut off from the outside world, but that's now being transformed.' | 0:01:45 | 0:01:49 | |
Look at what we as a species are capable of. | 0:01:49 | 0:01:52 | |
It's displayed here, I think, | 0:01:52 | 0:01:54 | |
like nowhere else I've seen on Planet Earth. | 0:01:54 | 0:01:57 | |
'There's no doubt China's growth in recent decades has been | 0:01:57 | 0:01:59 | |
'remarkable, with hundreds of millions | 0:01:59 | 0:02:01 | |
'of people lifted out of poverty.' | 0:02:01 | 0:02:03 | |
I'm a bit taken aback, frankly. | 0:02:05 | 0:02:07 | |
'But with prosperity, has come a search for meaning. | 0:02:07 | 0:02:10 | |
'Are there faiths and beliefs here that can help influence | 0:02:10 | 0:02:13 | |
'the path the country takes in the future?' | 0:02:13 | 0:02:15 | |
Oh, flipping heck! | 0:02:39 | 0:02:41 | |
What a fantastic viewpoint. | 0:02:41 | 0:02:43 | |
It's breathtaking. | 0:02:44 | 0:02:45 | |
Part of the reason I wanted to start the journey along this | 0:02:46 | 0:02:49 | |
stretch of the Yangtze, because this is the first bend in the river. | 0:02:49 | 0:02:55 | |
"So what?" I hear you say. | 0:02:55 | 0:02:57 | |
Well, the Yangtze is heading south, this way, | 0:02:57 | 0:03:00 | |
and really it should head out of China, | 0:03:00 | 0:03:02 | |
but it hits these hills, | 0:03:02 | 0:03:04 | |
this mountain range over here that's made of hard limestone | 0:03:04 | 0:03:09 | |
that it just can't erode, even over eons of time. | 0:03:09 | 0:03:12 | |
So the river does an abrupt about-turn | 0:03:12 | 0:03:16 | |
and it heads thataway back into and across China, | 0:03:16 | 0:03:19 | |
and, in doing so, takes water and civilisation | 0:03:19 | 0:03:23 | |
and life to hundreds of millions of people. | 0:03:23 | 0:03:26 | |
Without the river, without this bend in the river, | 0:03:29 | 0:03:33 | |
China as we know it would not exist. | 0:03:33 | 0:03:35 | |
'The Yangtze River basin covers a fifth of China's land surface | 0:03:47 | 0:03:50 | |
'and is the breadbasket of the nation. | 0:03:50 | 0:03:52 | |
'So crucial is the Yangtze to the existence of China, | 0:03:59 | 0:04:01 | |
'that it features in creation myths about the country. | 0:04:01 | 0:04:05 | |
'According to legend, it was a mythical emperor who used an army of | 0:04:08 | 0:04:12 | |
'dragons to shape the geography here and turn the river towards China. | 0:04:12 | 0:04:16 | |
'The local Nakhi people worship nature and the sacred river Yangtze. | 0:04:30 | 0:04:35 | |
'Many still believe in dragon gods | 0:04:35 | 0:04:37 | |
'that are both benevolent and terrifying. | 0:04:37 | 0:04:39 | |
'At the Dragon Pool temple, close to the first bend, | 0:04:52 | 0:04:55 | |
'I was meeting up with He Wenguang, a Nakhi musician, | 0:04:55 | 0:04:59 | |
'who comes from a long line of local priests. | 0:04:59 | 0:05:01 | |
'For thousands of years, powerful dragon gods | 0:05:09 | 0:05:11 | |
'and the Yangtze River have been part of Chinese folklore.' | 0:05:11 | 0:05:14 | |
Could you tell us a little bit about | 0:05:18 | 0:05:19 | |
your beliefs in relation to the river? | 0:05:19 | 0:05:22 | |
-TRANSLATION: -According to Nakhi culture, God had two wives. | 0:05:23 | 0:05:27 | |
The first wife gave birth to the natural world - | 0:05:27 | 0:05:30 | |
the rivers, lakes, seas and all living creatures. | 0:05:30 | 0:05:33 | |
The second wife gave birth to human beings, | 0:05:37 | 0:05:39 | |
that's why we believe that man and nature are very closely related. | 0:05:39 | 0:05:43 | |
So we always worship nature and worship the Yangtze River - | 0:05:43 | 0:05:47 | |
these beliefs are the cornerstone of our faith. | 0:05:47 | 0:05:50 | |
What powers does the dragon god have? | 0:05:57 | 0:06:00 | |
The dragon god is responsible for the climate and the earth. | 0:06:02 | 0:06:06 | |
If we offend the dragon god there could be a drought or flooding | 0:06:06 | 0:06:09 | |
and the villages and fields would be destroyed. | 0:06:09 | 0:06:13 | |
So we must worship and respect him | 0:06:15 | 0:06:17 | |
so that we will have a good harvest and a good life. | 0:06:17 | 0:06:20 | |
'The ancient city of Lijiang dates back to the 5th century | 0:06:38 | 0:06:42 | |
'and is home to 60% of the Nakhi people - | 0:06:42 | 0:06:45 | |
'one of China's many ethnic minorities.' | 0:06:45 | 0:06:47 | |
I think it's this one. | 0:06:50 | 0:06:51 | |
'Nakhi musician, Mr He, invited me | 0:06:53 | 0:06:55 | |
'to his home the next day to meet his family.' | 0:06:55 | 0:06:57 | |
THEY GREET EACH OTHER | 0:07:00 | 0:07:02 | |
-Mr He. -Welcome to my family. | 0:07:02 | 0:07:05 | |
Welcome... That's nice. Thank you. | 0:07:05 | 0:07:08 | |
-Hello! -Hello! | 0:07:08 | 0:07:11 | |
'Many Ethnic minorities in China complain they've been | 0:07:11 | 0:07:15 | |
'marginalized by the majority Han Chinese people, who make up | 0:07:15 | 0:07:19 | |
'more than 90% of the population.' | 0:07:19 | 0:07:21 | |
THEY SPEAK IN OWN LANGUAGE | 0:07:21 | 0:07:24 | |
'The Nakhi are keen to try to preserve their culture and beliefs. | 0:07:24 | 0:07:28 | |
'Mr He's 83-year-old mother, Xiao Rulian, | 0:07:28 | 0:07:30 | |
'is well-known locally.' | 0:07:30 | 0:07:32 | |
Why are you known as the Nakhi Queen? How have you got that title? | 0:07:32 | 0:07:37 | |
-TRANSLATION: -I was put on this earth to sing. | 0:07:37 | 0:07:40 | |
If I sang for three days and three nights I wouldn't even finish, | 0:07:40 | 0:07:43 | |
maybe that's why people call me the Nakhi Singing Queen. | 0:07:43 | 0:07:47 | |
'Mr He had invited friends over for a traditional singsong. | 0:07:50 | 0:07:54 | |
'Some of their outfits appeared to have been | 0:07:54 | 0:07:56 | |
'inspired by the Village People.' | 0:07:56 | 0:07:58 | |
TRADITIONAL MUSIC AND SINGING | 0:08:04 | 0:08:08 | |
'Many Nakhi songs express reverence for the Yangtze | 0:08:12 | 0:08:15 | |
'and for the creatures that live on its banks, like the frog.' | 0:08:15 | 0:08:19 | |
MUSIC AND SINGING CONTINUES | 0:08:19 | 0:08:22 | |
You're going to chuck me in, are you? OK. | 0:08:24 | 0:08:26 | |
I've got a slightly rubbish action. | 0:08:34 | 0:08:36 | |
Are you saying I have to channel my inner frog? | 0:08:40 | 0:08:43 | |
-TRANSLATION: -Yes. -OK. | 0:08:43 | 0:08:45 | |
I can barely move like a human, | 0:08:45 | 0:08:46 | |
so moving like a frog is going to be difficult, but... | 0:08:46 | 0:08:50 | |
Down, down... | 0:08:50 | 0:08:51 | |
-LAUGHTER -She approves. | 0:08:54 | 0:08:56 | |
Is that part of Nakhi culture?! | 0:09:15 | 0:09:17 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:09:17 | 0:09:19 | |
'The Nakhi are one of dozens of ethnic minorities in China. | 0:09:21 | 0:09:25 | |
'Some have received help from the authorities to | 0:09:25 | 0:09:28 | |
'preserve their traditions and beliefs. | 0:09:28 | 0:09:32 | |
'But several groups, such as Muslim Uighurs in the far west of | 0:09:32 | 0:09:34 | |
'the country, are campaigning | 0:09:34 | 0:09:36 | |
'against what they see as state control. | 0:09:36 | 0:09:39 | |
'Separatist groups claiming to represent ethnic minorities | 0:09:39 | 0:09:42 | |
'have even launched deadly terrorist attacks.' | 0:09:42 | 0:09:45 | |
There are a lot of issues with ethnic groups in China. | 0:09:47 | 0:09:50 | |
In some parts of the country, ethnic groups have been | 0:09:50 | 0:09:52 | |
agitating for more freedoms and even independence, | 0:09:52 | 0:09:55 | |
and their behaviour is considered by the Chinese authorities to be | 0:09:55 | 0:10:00 | |
a massive threat to national unity and thus national security as well. | 0:10:00 | 0:10:05 | |
The Chinese state saw what happened in the Soviet Union | 0:10:05 | 0:10:10 | |
when communism collapsed there and | 0:10:10 | 0:10:12 | |
the Soviet Union fragmented into smaller states, | 0:10:12 | 0:10:14 | |
and they are terrified of the same thing happening here. | 0:10:14 | 0:10:18 | |
'One of the longest running campaigns for independence has been | 0:10:21 | 0:10:24 | |
'fought by the people of Tibet, where the Yangtze originates. | 0:10:24 | 0:10:27 | |
'In 1950, Chinese soldiers marched into Tibet, | 0:10:28 | 0:10:32 | |
'and China has treated it as its own territory ever since.' | 0:10:32 | 0:10:35 | |
The source of the river is generally agreed | 0:10:40 | 0:10:43 | |
to be high in the mountains of Tibet, | 0:10:43 | 0:10:45 | |
which is governed by China as an autonomous province. | 0:10:45 | 0:10:49 | |
Many Tibetans and many in the international community | 0:10:50 | 0:10:53 | |
as well would say that China has colonized and is controlling Tibet. | 0:10:53 | 0:10:57 | |
'The Chinese government has a history | 0:10:59 | 0:11:01 | |
'of blocking film crews and foreign journalists | 0:11:01 | 0:11:04 | |
'from entering Tibet, another reason for us to start further downstream. | 0:11:04 | 0:11:08 | |
'I travelled east, following the Yangtze, to a small historic site | 0:11:12 | 0:11:15 | |
'close to the river and just outside the booming city of Chongqing.' | 0:11:15 | 0:11:19 | |
I'm on my way to meet a guide who is going to take me | 0:11:24 | 0:11:27 | |
across the rest of China. | 0:11:27 | 0:11:29 | |
I'm meeting her at a sacred mountain. | 0:11:29 | 0:11:31 | |
This must be Li Li. | 0:11:40 | 0:11:41 | |
-Li Li? -Hi. | 0:11:43 | 0:11:45 | |
Hi. | 0:11:45 | 0:11:46 | |
-Thank you so much for coming to meet us here. -My pleasure. | 0:11:48 | 0:11:52 | |
But where? You've brought us here, what are we going to see? | 0:11:52 | 0:11:54 | |
Some beautiful carvings. Let's go. | 0:11:54 | 0:11:57 | |
'Hidden in a gorge close to the river, | 0:12:01 | 0:12:03 | |
'the Dazu Rock Carvings are some of the few religious artefacts in | 0:12:03 | 0:12:07 | |
'China not to have been destroyed during communist rule. | 0:12:07 | 0:12:10 | |
'Dating back to 650AD, | 0:12:12 | 0:12:14 | |
'there are more than 50,000 statues hewn out of the rock here.' | 0:12:14 | 0:12:18 | |
These are magnificent. | 0:12:22 | 0:12:25 | |
This is quite overwhelming. | 0:12:25 | 0:12:26 | |
So these are all representations of Buddha? | 0:12:35 | 0:12:38 | |
Yeah. It shows how important is the Buddha. | 0:12:38 | 0:12:42 | |
-Look at the fingers. -Yes. | 0:12:42 | 0:12:46 | |
Actually each posture of the fingers has a special meaning. | 0:12:46 | 0:12:49 | |
What a beautiful sight. | 0:12:53 | 0:12:55 | |
'Buddhism originated in India, | 0:12:55 | 0:12:58 | |
'but flourished in China for centuries, until China's drive for | 0:12:58 | 0:13:02 | |
'modernity in the early 20th century, and the rise of communism, | 0:13:02 | 0:13:05 | |
'resulted in the destruction or conversion | 0:13:05 | 0:13:08 | |
'of hundreds of thousands of temples. | 0:13:08 | 0:13:09 | |
'Now Buddhism's making a massive comeback with | 0:13:09 | 0:13:12 | |
'an estimated 250 million followers in China today.' | 0:13:12 | 0:13:16 | |
The Sleeping Buddha. | 0:13:16 | 0:13:17 | |
Look at this! | 0:13:19 | 0:13:21 | |
Enormous! | 0:13:21 | 0:13:22 | |
'In fact, Li Li is one of the huge numbers of young Chinese | 0:13:25 | 0:13:29 | |
'who are once again embracing Buddhism.' | 0:13:29 | 0:13:31 | |
That's...really spectacular. | 0:13:33 | 0:13:36 | |
Beautiful, right? | 0:13:36 | 0:13:39 | |
-Yeah. -And so close. | 0:13:39 | 0:13:41 | |
You're so close to the Buddha. | 0:13:41 | 0:13:43 | |
And so close to the 800 years' history. | 0:13:43 | 0:13:45 | |
-It's lovely to see how excited you are by it. -Yeah. | 0:13:47 | 0:13:50 | |
Did you choose to be a Buddhist, or did Buddhism choose you? | 0:13:56 | 0:14:00 | |
I think both. | 0:14:00 | 0:14:02 | |
Of course, I make the decision, I found the way, | 0:14:02 | 0:14:05 | |
but I was attracted by Buddhism and finally persuaded by the Buddhism. | 0:14:05 | 0:14:12 | |
So I could say Buddhism chose me. | 0:14:12 | 0:14:16 | |
I think Buddhism is not just a belief or wish, | 0:14:16 | 0:14:19 | |
it's a path to the truth of the universe. | 0:14:19 | 0:14:22 | |
'The teachings of the ancient Chinese philosopher, Confucius, | 0:14:29 | 0:14:33 | |
'are also depicted in the Dazu Rock Carvings.' | 0:14:33 | 0:14:36 | |
This is a typical carving to show the Confucius' thoughts, | 0:14:36 | 0:14:40 | |
how it applies to people's life. | 0:14:40 | 0:14:43 | |
"Confucian" thoughts? | 0:14:43 | 0:14:46 | |
Yeah, a combination of the Buddhism thoughts and the Confucius' thoughts. | 0:14:46 | 0:14:50 | |
And, actually, both of them are not against each other. | 0:14:50 | 0:14:55 | |
People just combine them to their life | 0:14:55 | 0:14:57 | |
and also they think these two are connected to each other. | 0:14:57 | 0:15:00 | |
The whole story is about how kids should take care of their parents | 0:15:00 | 0:15:04 | |
-and should treat them good. -Children should look after Mum and Dad. | 0:15:04 | 0:15:08 | |
-Yeah. Yeah. -That's what people can get - it's a little lesson. | 0:15:08 | 0:15:12 | |
Yeah, actually it's a big lesson in China. | 0:15:12 | 0:15:14 | |
You're absolutely right, of course. | 0:15:14 | 0:15:16 | |
It shows that centuries and centuries ago, | 0:15:16 | 0:15:19 | |
Confucianism and Buddhism | 0:15:19 | 0:15:21 | |
existed together, | 0:15:21 | 0:15:22 | |
lived together, worked together | 0:15:22 | 0:15:24 | |
-in some sort of beautiful harmony. -Yes. | 0:15:24 | 0:15:27 | |
They are just different paths to the one truth of this universe. | 0:15:27 | 0:15:31 | |
'The third great Chinese faith depicted here is Daoism, | 0:15:31 | 0:15:35 | |
'which emphasises following the laws of nature. | 0:15:35 | 0:15:38 | |
'That's also now enjoying a major revival. | 0:15:38 | 0:15:41 | |
'The number of Daoist places of worship have | 0:15:41 | 0:15:43 | |
'tripled in the past 15 years. | 0:15:43 | 0:15:45 | |
'Historically, these three religions | 0:15:45 | 0:15:47 | |
'and philosophies were known in | 0:15:47 | 0:15:49 | |
'China as The Three Harmonious Faiths.' | 0:15:49 | 0:15:52 | |
You think of China today and you think of an economic powerhouse, | 0:15:52 | 0:15:57 | |
a place that is perhaps just a little bit soulless. | 0:15:57 | 0:16:02 | |
A place that's less about personal belief | 0:16:02 | 0:16:05 | |
and more about a production line. | 0:16:05 | 0:16:07 | |
But Chinese history is full of myths and legends, | 0:16:07 | 0:16:12 | |
belief and superstitions. | 0:16:12 | 0:16:15 | |
The communists tried to wipe them out but it never went away. | 0:16:15 | 0:16:19 | |
Communism is just really a short period in the history | 0:16:19 | 0:16:22 | |
of a country that is profoundly religious and spiritual. | 0:16:22 | 0:16:25 | |
'From Dazu, Li Li and I travelled to the nearby city of Chongqing. | 0:16:40 | 0:16:44 | |
'Because of its position in the middle of the Yangtze | 0:16:50 | 0:16:53 | |
'and the country, it's always a major transport hub. | 0:16:53 | 0:16:56 | |
'Today, it's one of China's fastest-growing cities.' | 0:16:58 | 0:17:01 | |
We're just coming into the megalopolis that is Chongqing. | 0:17:04 | 0:17:08 | |
It's late, I'm going to find a bed for the night, | 0:17:10 | 0:17:12 | |
but tomorrow we can head out and explore. | 0:17:12 | 0:17:15 | |
HORN HONKS | 0:17:17 | 0:17:19 | |
'Chongqing epitomises China's | 0:17:29 | 0:17:30 | |
'dizzying economic growth in recent years and its rapid urbanisation.' | 0:17:30 | 0:17:35 | |
Look at that! | 0:17:38 | 0:17:39 | |
It's a bit like New York. | 0:17:41 | 0:17:42 | |
This is my first experience of a new Chinese megacity. | 0:17:48 | 0:17:53 | |
And I'm blown away. | 0:17:53 | 0:17:56 | |
This country, it's not just advancing, it's advanced. | 0:17:59 | 0:18:03 | |
It's not just rising, it has risen. | 0:18:03 | 0:18:06 | |
Yay! We're over the Yangtze. | 0:18:18 | 0:18:20 | |
We're doing what millions of Chinese migrants have done in recent | 0:18:25 | 0:18:29 | |
-decades - moving, going to the city. -Yeah. | 0:18:29 | 0:18:34 | |
This has been one of the biggest, | 0:18:34 | 0:18:36 | |
if not THE biggest, human migration in history. | 0:18:36 | 0:18:40 | |
Millions of people going from the countryside to the cities. | 0:18:40 | 0:18:43 | |
The population of this city is expected to more than double | 0:18:46 | 0:18:50 | |
in the next few years to 20 million. | 0:18:50 | 0:18:54 | |
'China was traditionally a rural nation, | 0:18:54 | 0:18:56 | |
'but it's predicted that by 2030, China's cities will be home | 0:18:56 | 0:19:00 | |
'to one in eight people on the planet.' | 0:19:00 | 0:19:02 | |
-Here we go. -Chongqing. -Yeah. | 0:19:02 | 0:19:04 | |
'This country has undergone an economic transformation | 0:19:06 | 0:19:10 | |
'at ten times the speed of the original Industrial Revolution. | 0:19:10 | 0:19:14 | |
'In the centre of Chongqing is the People's Liberation Square, | 0:19:14 | 0:19:17 | |
'renamed to celebrate the communist conquest of the area.' | 0:19:17 | 0:19:21 | |
Look at this! | 0:19:24 | 0:19:25 | |
'Ironically, it's now home to a | 0:19:25 | 0:19:27 | |
'roll call of international luxury brands.' | 0:19:27 | 0:19:29 | |
I'm a bit taken aback, frankly. | 0:19:32 | 0:19:34 | |
Is this the new Chinese dream, Li Li? | 0:19:35 | 0:19:39 | |
Consumerism? Buy stuff? Have a new handbag? | 0:19:39 | 0:19:43 | |
Of course, that's a trend of fashion. | 0:19:45 | 0:19:47 | |
Especially when people get richer than before | 0:19:47 | 0:19:50 | |
and they want to have such kind of products, | 0:19:50 | 0:19:53 | |
just like international products. | 0:19:53 | 0:19:55 | |
It means something to them, like their social status. | 0:19:55 | 0:19:59 | |
Consumerism, it's almost an ideology - | 0:20:00 | 0:20:03 | |
I don't think just necessarily here. | 0:20:03 | 0:20:06 | |
Well, before, China used to be very poor | 0:20:06 | 0:20:08 | |
and we didn't even have enough food to eat. | 0:20:08 | 0:20:12 | |
So, you may imagine when people get rich, | 0:20:12 | 0:20:14 | |
of course, first thing, they want to eat food and wear good things. | 0:20:14 | 0:20:18 | |
It's really interesting, cos it's so easy to forget that, | 0:20:20 | 0:20:23 | |
in living memory, this country has suffered famine. | 0:20:23 | 0:20:28 | |
Yeah, but at the very, very beginning, | 0:20:28 | 0:20:30 | |
you have to have money to buy food, to buy a house, | 0:20:30 | 0:20:33 | |
but later on you have to find what is important to you. | 0:20:33 | 0:20:37 | |
That's what I think. | 0:20:37 | 0:20:39 | |
'There are more than 300 million middle class Chinese now. | 0:20:40 | 0:20:43 | |
'They are the world's biggest consumers of luxury goods. | 0:20:43 | 0:20:46 | |
'But it seems that even many of those who've obtained at least | 0:20:46 | 0:20:49 | |
'a degree of material wealth want more meaning in their lives | 0:20:49 | 0:20:53 | |
'than just the chance to go shopping. | 0:20:53 | 0:20:56 | |
'Tens of millions are turning to religious faiths. | 0:20:56 | 0:20:58 | |
'Near the centre of Chongqing, not far from the Yangtze, | 0:20:59 | 0:21:02 | |
'a Buddhist temple stands proud among | 0:21:02 | 0:21:04 | |
'the skyscrapers and shopping malls.' | 0:21:04 | 0:21:06 | |
It's a bit hemmed in this temple, isn't it? | 0:21:06 | 0:21:09 | |
'There's been a temple here for nearly 1,000 years.' | 0:21:09 | 0:21:12 | |
Surrounded by skyscrapers. | 0:21:12 | 0:21:14 | |
Actually, it looks fairly popular. | 0:21:14 | 0:21:16 | |
It's quite the...little oasis, isn't it? | 0:21:22 | 0:21:25 | |
-Mm-hm. -Tranquil. | 0:21:25 | 0:21:28 | |
This is a big, happy Buddha. | 0:21:28 | 0:21:30 | |
'Although China is officially an atheist country, | 0:21:33 | 0:21:36 | |
'surveys suggest up to 85% of people here | 0:21:36 | 0:21:39 | |
believe in something - either spiritual or religious. | 0:21:39 | 0:21:43 | |
First, we can light this candle. | 0:21:45 | 0:21:48 | |
-Light the candle... -Uh-huh. | 0:21:48 | 0:21:51 | |
According to Buddhism, | 0:21:52 | 0:21:54 | |
to light the candle means to light the candle of your heart - | 0:21:54 | 0:21:57 | |
make your heart bright, and the bright can go to everywhere, | 0:21:57 | 0:22:01 | |
especially the dark place. | 0:22:01 | 0:22:03 | |
And then you can bring the light to other people in the world. | 0:22:03 | 0:22:06 | |
That's the meaning. | 0:22:06 | 0:22:07 | |
Then you pray. | 0:22:10 | 0:22:12 | |
What do you pray for, Li Li? | 0:22:17 | 0:22:19 | |
I pray for three things - the first, for my parents, | 0:22:19 | 0:22:24 | |
the second, for all the people in the world, | 0:22:24 | 0:22:28 | |
and the third one is for myself. | 0:22:28 | 0:22:31 | |
Family, planet and self - I'll go for that. | 0:22:32 | 0:22:35 | |
'As China's economy has grown, | 0:22:39 | 0:22:41 | |
'so has the damage the country is doing to the environment. | 0:22:41 | 0:22:44 | |
'When it comes to pollution, | 0:22:46 | 0:22:47 | |
'China is one of the world's worst offenders. | 0:22:47 | 0:22:51 | |
'And many people believe it will take more than just prayers | 0:22:51 | 0:22:53 | |
'to save the planet. | 0:22:53 | 0:22:55 | |
'On the outskirts of Chongqing, | 0:22:57 | 0:22:59 | |
'Li Li and I met up with a couple of environmental activists. | 0:22:59 | 0:23:03 | |
'They're monitoring the damage | 0:23:03 | 0:23:04 | |
'modern China is doing to the sacred Yangtze.' | 0:23:04 | 0:23:07 | |
Many aspects of daily life have clearly improved here - | 0:23:08 | 0:23:12 | |
education, health care, the economy, legal rights, | 0:23:12 | 0:23:17 | |
but the environment has taken a hammering. | 0:23:17 | 0:23:20 | |
'This small environmental group was started by Yu Jianfeng, | 0:23:23 | 0:23:27 | |
'with £10,000 of his own money. | 0:23:27 | 0:23:29 | |
'He reveres the Yangtze, and says his activism is | 0:23:30 | 0:23:34 | |
'inspired by China's traditional religious beliefs.' | 0:23:34 | 0:23:37 | |
-TRANSLATION: -In Chinese traditional culture, Daoism is | 0:23:42 | 0:23:45 | |
the philosophy that is more focused on the environment. | 0:23:45 | 0:23:47 | |
Daoism's idea is that nature and the human beings have to be in harmony. | 0:23:50 | 0:23:54 | |
But, for people like us, | 0:23:54 | 0:23:56 | |
who are activists, we are also encouraged by Confucianism - | 0:23:56 | 0:23:59 | |
the Confucian idea that every individual is responsible for | 0:23:59 | 0:24:02 | |
the state of the world and therefore must get involved in society. | 0:24:02 | 0:24:06 | |
That's a bit revolting, isn't it? | 0:24:12 | 0:24:15 | |
That is disgusting. | 0:24:16 | 0:24:17 | |
'This is domestic sewage and industrial waste water, mixed.' | 0:24:20 | 0:24:24 | |
Is this flowing into the Yangtze? | 0:24:25 | 0:24:27 | |
That's for sure. | 0:24:28 | 0:24:30 | |
This whole area is part of the Yangtze River valley. | 0:24:30 | 0:24:32 | |
Is this price of China's economic boom? | 0:24:35 | 0:24:39 | |
This is because there isn't enough supporting infrastructure to | 0:24:41 | 0:24:45 | |
match the city's rapid development. | 0:24:45 | 0:24:47 | |
The residential areas are expanding, | 0:24:47 | 0:24:49 | |
but the sewage system isn't keeping up. | 0:24:49 | 0:24:51 | |
'Water and air pollution are major problems in China. | 0:24:57 | 0:24:59 | |
'Some reports suggest half of urban water supplies aren't fit to | 0:24:59 | 0:25:03 | |
'wash in, let alone drink. | 0:25:03 | 0:25:05 | |
'It's a controversial subject for a | 0:25:05 | 0:25:07 | |
'new breed of environmental activist.' | 0:25:07 | 0:25:09 | |
Why do you do this? You must get a lot of hassle as a result. | 0:25:09 | 0:25:14 | |
For me, I feel very sad to see the rivers are polluted, very upset. | 0:25:16 | 0:25:20 | |
I grew up in a beautiful place with green hills and a clear river. | 0:25:23 | 0:25:27 | |
I believe we should protect these rivers, | 0:25:28 | 0:25:30 | |
so the next generation will still have a chance | 0:25:30 | 0:25:32 | |
to develop a close relationship with them and swim in them, | 0:25:32 | 0:25:35 | |
play in them and enjoy it. | 0:25:35 | 0:25:38 | |
I worry that the Chinese authorities, | 0:25:46 | 0:25:48 | |
like Western democratic leaders, think that we can fix this, | 0:25:48 | 0:25:53 | |
we can do whatever damage we want to the environment, | 0:25:53 | 0:25:57 | |
but science and engineering will be able to resolve it in the future. | 0:25:57 | 0:26:01 | |
But what if we can't? | 0:26:01 | 0:26:03 | |
What if the damage we've done, and we're doing still is irreversible? | 0:26:03 | 0:26:09 | |
Then we'll have left a completely destroyed environment | 0:26:09 | 0:26:12 | |
to future generations, and that would be completely immoral. | 0:26:12 | 0:26:17 | |
It's time we got out on the river, so we're heading to a port | 0:26:33 | 0:26:38 | |
and going to get on a boat. | 0:26:38 | 0:26:39 | |
'As China's boomed, so the newly-affluent middle class | 0:26:46 | 0:26:49 | |
'have started taking holidays around the world. | 0:26:49 | 0:26:51 | |
'But, of course, they're also exploring | 0:26:51 | 0:26:53 | |
'their own vast country and rich history. | 0:26:53 | 0:26:56 | |
'There's been a recent trend for taking luxury | 0:26:56 | 0:26:58 | |
'cruises on the Yangtze. | 0:26:58 | 0:27:00 | |
'We drove 300 miles, tracking along the Yangtze, | 0:27:07 | 0:27:10 | |
'to Wushan, to join one of the cruise boats.' | 0:27:10 | 0:27:14 | |
It's massive. It's like a floating hotel. | 0:27:18 | 0:27:21 | |
Let's get on board! | 0:27:23 | 0:27:24 | |
-This looks great, Li Li. -Yeah. | 0:27:27 | 0:27:29 | |
It's not even the biggest one. | 0:27:29 | 0:27:31 | |
'This ship has 200 luxury cabins and suites that can accommodate | 0:27:34 | 0:27:38 | |
'more than 400 passengers, paying upwards of £300 a night.' | 0:27:38 | 0:27:42 | |
I've never been on a boat like this. | 0:27:51 | 0:27:53 | |
Well, unless you count the ferry across to Denmark. | 0:27:53 | 0:27:57 | |
It's not quite like this. | 0:28:00 | 0:28:02 | |
So, last year they just started their journey. | 0:28:06 | 0:28:09 | |
-So this boat has only been going for one year? -One year only. | 0:28:11 | 0:28:15 | |
-Are you busy? Are the cruises busy? -Yeah, very busy. | 0:28:15 | 0:28:18 | |
More and more people here have | 0:28:24 | 0:28:27 | |
proper leisure time and money to spend. | 0:28:27 | 0:28:29 | |
It's estimated that a million Chinese people are now taking | 0:28:31 | 0:28:34 | |
cruises along the Yangtze every year. | 0:28:34 | 0:28:37 | |
A million. | 0:28:40 | 0:28:41 | |
Think how life has changed in the UK in recent decades, | 0:28:41 | 0:28:45 | |
it's nothing to how life has changed here. | 0:28:45 | 0:28:48 | |
When I was born, | 0:28:49 | 0:28:51 | |
this country was basically isolated from the rest of the world. | 0:28:51 | 0:28:56 | |
Within living memory, there were famines here. | 0:28:56 | 0:28:59 | |
Now look at it. | 0:29:00 | 0:29:02 | |
They come on board with their smartphones and fancy cameras, | 0:29:02 | 0:29:05 | |
dosh in the pocket. | 0:29:05 | 0:29:08 | |
Come on, hurry up. We need to go. | 0:29:09 | 0:29:11 | |
Well behind schedule. | 0:29:13 | 0:29:14 | |
'At Wuhan, the river widens, | 0:29:18 | 0:29:20 | |
'because we were joining a massive reservoir that's | 0:29:20 | 0:29:23 | |
'filled-up behind the colossal Three Gorges Dam, where we were headed. | 0:29:23 | 0:29:27 | |
'Water levels have risen by as much as 300 feet here, | 0:29:29 | 0:29:32 | |
'and the river's so wide and deep it's capable of accommodating | 0:29:32 | 0:29:36 | |
'ocean-going ships hundreds of miles inland. | 0:29:36 | 0:29:39 | |
'As night fell, Li Li and I naturally felt obliged to get | 0:29:44 | 0:29:47 | |
'a taste of the on-board entertainment.' | 0:29:47 | 0:29:50 | |
THEY SPEAK IN OWN LANGUAGE | 0:29:50 | 0:29:53 | |
HE LAUGHS | 0:29:53 | 0:29:54 | |
Should we share? | 0:29:54 | 0:29:57 | |
We're here to celebrate China's ancient culture... | 0:29:57 | 0:30:01 | |
..and I've been given a happy slapper and a lightsaber! | 0:30:03 | 0:30:08 | |
'Some people think of China as unfriendly and a little dour. | 0:30:10 | 0:30:13 | |
'Not a bit of it.' | 0:30:13 | 0:30:15 | |
Oh, people have been on the sauce here. | 0:30:17 | 0:30:19 | |
'I was proud to see there were some Brits on board, | 0:30:19 | 0:30:22 | |
'helping to get the party going.' | 0:30:22 | 0:30:24 | |
# Ole, ole, ole, ole | 0:30:24 | 0:30:27 | |
# Ole, ole | 0:30:27 | 0:30:31 | |
# Ole, ole, ole, ole. # | 0:30:31 | 0:30:34 | |
Look what you've started! | 0:30:34 | 0:30:36 | |
'The next morning, we docked not far from the Three Gorges Dam. | 0:30:46 | 0:30:50 | |
'We drove down towards the wall of the huge dam.' | 0:30:54 | 0:30:57 | |
That surely ranks alongside the mightiest of human creations. | 0:31:02 | 0:31:06 | |
Look at the size of that. | 0:31:08 | 0:31:10 | |
'This is the single biggest power station on the planet.' | 0:31:12 | 0:31:17 | |
My God... | 0:31:17 | 0:31:18 | |
'It generates vast amounts of hydroelectricity - | 0:31:26 | 0:31:29 | |
'the equivalent of more than half a dozen nuclear power stations. | 0:31:29 | 0:31:33 | |
'It's longer than 25 football pitches | 0:31:33 | 0:31:35 | |
'and higher than a 40-storey building. | 0:31:35 | 0:31:40 | |
'Since the 1950s the Chinese have built more than 22,000 large dams, | 0:31:40 | 0:31:44 | |
'but this is by far the largest. | 0:31:44 | 0:31:46 | |
'The government here says it's an engineering miracle. | 0:31:50 | 0:31:53 | |
'Critics say it's an unstable | 0:31:53 | 0:31:55 | |
'and unprecedented environmental disaster. | 0:31:55 | 0:31:57 | |
'Mao Zedong, the founder of Communist China, | 0:31:59 | 0:32:01 | |
'championed the dam partly because deadly floods here regularly claimed | 0:32:01 | 0:32:05 | |
'tens of thousands of lives, and partly because he wanted to | 0:32:05 | 0:32:08 | |
'prove to the Chinese people that he had the right to rule.' | 0:32:08 | 0:32:12 | |
In China, there's something called the Mandate of Heaven, | 0:32:15 | 0:32:17 | |
and this is the idea that, for centuries, | 0:32:17 | 0:32:21 | |
Chinese leaders rule with the acceptance and mandate | 0:32:21 | 0:32:26 | |
of the heavens, of the gods, of the spirit world, of the ancestors. | 0:32:26 | 0:32:29 | |
And any threat to that mandate, any challenge to that mandate can | 0:32:29 | 0:32:35 | |
come from things like an earthquake or a flood, | 0:32:35 | 0:32:38 | |
because it suggests that the spirit world is somehow unhappy with | 0:32:38 | 0:32:42 | |
the leaders in the real, physical world. | 0:32:42 | 0:32:45 | |
'If Mao could build this giant edifice, | 0:32:48 | 0:32:50 | |
'he could prove that the Communist Party could conquer nature, | 0:32:50 | 0:32:53 | |
'and that it was greater and more powerful than China's ancient gods.' | 0:32:53 | 0:32:57 | |
We're being allowed onto the top of the dam. Hopefully. | 0:32:58 | 0:33:03 | |
This is a sensitive, strategic location, | 0:33:13 | 0:33:15 | |
because consequences of the dam being breached | 0:33:15 | 0:33:19 | |
could be catastrophic. | 0:33:19 | 0:33:20 | |
'Mao didn't live to see the dam built and it wasn't finished | 0:33:26 | 0:33:30 | |
'and fully functional until 2012.' | 0:33:30 | 0:33:32 | |
Yangtze River. | 0:33:42 | 0:33:43 | |
Wow. | 0:33:43 | 0:33:45 | |
Look at that. | 0:33:45 | 0:33:46 | |
It's an inland sea. | 0:33:47 | 0:33:49 | |
I think 13 cities, hundreds of towns, | 0:33:56 | 0:34:01 | |
hundreds of thousands of people were displaced to make way for this. | 0:34:01 | 0:34:08 | |
This lake, the reservoir behind the dam, | 0:34:09 | 0:34:13 | |
stretches back almost the length of England. | 0:34:13 | 0:34:16 | |
Something like 10% of the population of the planet live in the basin, | 0:34:20 | 0:34:26 | |
the wider area around the Yangtze River. | 0:34:26 | 0:34:30 | |
That is how important this water, this river is. | 0:34:30 | 0:34:35 | |
And if we just come over here, | 0:34:38 | 0:34:39 | |
look at what we, as a species, are capable of. | 0:34:39 | 0:34:42 | |
This is... | 0:34:44 | 0:34:45 | |
It's displayed here, I think, | 0:34:45 | 0:34:47 | |
like nowhere else I've seen...on Planet Earth really. | 0:34:47 | 0:34:50 | |
They have blocked, tamed, controlled the Yangtze. | 0:34:53 | 0:34:59 | |
And look over here. | 0:34:59 | 0:35:00 | |
It's like looking off the side of a mountain. | 0:35:02 | 0:35:04 | |
Li Li's smiling. You proud? | 0:35:08 | 0:35:10 | |
Yes. Why not? | 0:35:10 | 0:35:12 | |
I'm proud of it. | 0:35:12 | 0:35:14 | |
Of course there have been enormous environmental | 0:35:14 | 0:35:16 | |
and human costs to this dam. | 0:35:16 | 0:35:20 | |
-Yes. -I don't think we know our limits. | 0:35:20 | 0:35:22 | |
Yeah, well, I don't think we fully understand nature. | 0:35:24 | 0:35:29 | |
That's absolutely fascinating because here, I suppose, in China, | 0:35:29 | 0:35:33 | |
we're confronted, I feel, by the two biggest questions or issues | 0:35:33 | 0:35:39 | |
facing us as a species - how do we make poorer people richer? | 0:35:39 | 0:35:45 | |
How do we lift them out of poverty, | 0:35:45 | 0:35:47 | |
while at the same time protecting the environment? | 0:35:47 | 0:35:51 | |
And on rivers, on our sacred rivers, on our mightiest rivers, | 0:35:51 | 0:35:56 | |
we see this issue displayed time and time again. | 0:35:56 | 0:36:00 | |
I feel people are more and more aware of this issue. | 0:36:02 | 0:36:04 | |
Cos in the past 20 years, | 0:36:04 | 0:36:08 | |
Chinese people were really focusing on, you now, | 0:36:08 | 0:36:10 | |
develop the economy and get rid of the poverty. | 0:36:10 | 0:36:14 | |
And, nowadays, lots of people really start to watch the long, | 0:36:14 | 0:36:18 | |
long-term consequences and the environmental protections, | 0:36:18 | 0:36:22 | |
natures for the next generation. | 0:36:22 | 0:36:24 | |
I really hope so, Li Li. | 0:36:24 | 0:36:26 | |
I have to hope and pray that there is this growing environmental | 0:36:26 | 0:36:30 | |
awareness in China. | 0:36:30 | 0:36:32 | |
Not just for China, but for us all. | 0:36:32 | 0:36:34 | |
'From the Three Gorges Dam, we followed | 0:36:39 | 0:36:41 | |
'the Yangtze for over 200 miles to the city of Wuhan. | 0:36:41 | 0:36:45 | |
'Mao apparently thought of religion and faith as poison, | 0:36:52 | 0:36:55 | |
'but he still wanted to prove that he had the right to rule, | 0:36:55 | 0:36:58 | |
'the communist equivalent of the Mandate of Heaven, | 0:36:58 | 0:37:01 | |
'the blessing of the spirit world. | 0:37:01 | 0:37:03 | |
'One way he chose to do this was by swimming | 0:37:06 | 0:37:09 | |
'the breadth of the Yangtze at Wuhan, where it was considered to | 0:37:09 | 0:37:12 | |
'be at its most dangerous, | 0:37:12 | 0:37:13 | |
'because of fierce currents and deadly floods. | 0:37:13 | 0:37:16 | |
'I met up with Yu Guanrong | 0:37:25 | 0:37:27 | |
'who runs a local swimming club that trains in the river | 0:37:27 | 0:37:30 | |
'and celebrates the anniversary of Mao's swim every summer.' | 0:37:30 | 0:37:33 | |
Mr Yu, why do you do this, why do you swim in the Yangtze? | 0:37:37 | 0:37:40 | |
-TRANSLATION: -We Wuhan people crossed the Yangtze River, are obsessed with | 0:37:42 | 0:37:46 | |
crossing the river, because Chairman Mao crossed it 17 times here. | 0:37:46 | 0:37:50 | |
That makes us love the river. | 0:37:50 | 0:37:53 | |
I dare say that there isn't any other world leader who has | 0:37:53 | 0:37:55 | |
crossed rivers like this. | 0:37:55 | 0:37:57 | |
This is unique, number one. | 0:37:57 | 0:37:59 | |
What's this chap got? | 0:38:02 | 0:38:03 | |
He's a calligrapher, a great artist. | 0:38:05 | 0:38:07 | |
Chairman Mao was a great calligrapher, too. | 0:38:08 | 0:38:11 | |
"China and British friendly." | 0:38:12 | 0:38:14 | |
Let us hope so. That's rather lovely. | 0:38:15 | 0:38:17 | |
'Perhaps inevitably, I'd been volunteered | 0:38:20 | 0:38:23 | |
'to take part in the practice swim in the freezing waters.' | 0:38:23 | 0:38:26 | |
This should inspire a bit of confidence - rescue team. | 0:38:29 | 0:38:32 | |
He's abseiling, but, you know... | 0:38:32 | 0:38:34 | |
He does mountaineering as well - he's climbed Everest. | 0:38:34 | 0:38:36 | |
He's been about. He'll look after us. | 0:38:36 | 0:38:38 | |
SHIP'S HORN BLARES | 0:38:38 | 0:38:40 | |
Are you expecting me to wear this? | 0:38:43 | 0:38:47 | |
Why have I been given this? | 0:38:49 | 0:38:51 | |
That's to protect him against the sun. | 0:38:51 | 0:38:53 | |
I don't like what Mr Yu is planning here. | 0:38:53 | 0:38:55 | |
This does not look even vaguely acceptable. | 0:38:58 | 0:39:02 | |
Surely this is illegal in China. | 0:39:02 | 0:39:03 | |
Just don't leave me alone with Mr Yu, OK? | 0:39:06 | 0:39:08 | |
This is quite possibly one of the most embarrassing things I've done. | 0:39:13 | 0:39:16 | |
This is like being in a zoo - look around. | 0:39:16 | 0:39:19 | |
THEY SHOUT GREETINGS | 0:39:24 | 0:39:26 | |
Let's take a dip in the Yangtze. | 0:39:26 | 0:39:29 | |
It's for you? | 0:39:30 | 0:39:32 | |
I have to go first? | 0:39:38 | 0:39:40 | |
OK. Across the Yangtze! | 0:39:42 | 0:39:44 | |
CHEERING | 0:39:44 | 0:39:47 | |
It's very refreshing! | 0:39:54 | 0:39:57 | |
'Mao's swim across the Yangtze here was a clever bit of publicity | 0:40:05 | 0:40:08 | |
'that helped his strongman image. | 0:40:08 | 0:40:10 | |
'President Putin does these sort of stunts all the time, of course. | 0:40:12 | 0:40:16 | |
'I was only supposed to be pottering around, having a quick dip.' | 0:40:17 | 0:40:21 | |
The current here is astonishing. | 0:40:23 | 0:40:25 | |
I'm really feeling the power of it. | 0:40:27 | 0:40:29 | |
'But after ten minutes or so, | 0:40:31 | 0:40:32 | |
'I found myself a third of the way across. | 0:40:32 | 0:40:34 | |
'A mad thought struck me. | 0:40:34 | 0:40:36 | |
'Meanwhile, Mr Yu was getting a bit chilly.' | 0:40:38 | 0:40:40 | |
Mr Yu seems to be getting out of the river | 0:40:40 | 0:40:43 | |
and I'm just left here with the rescue swimmers. | 0:40:43 | 0:40:46 | |
'With stronger swimmers around me and our crew boat alongside, | 0:40:49 | 0:40:53 | |
'I thought I was safe to keep going. | 0:40:53 | 0:40:55 | |
'I hadn't realised just how busy the dangerous shipping channel | 0:40:55 | 0:40:58 | |
'could be, and there were a few near-misses with passing freighters.' | 0:40:58 | 0:41:02 | |
I bet they stopped the shipping for Chairman Mao! | 0:41:05 | 0:41:08 | |
'Mr Yu seemed to be relaying the highlights of my ordeal | 0:41:15 | 0:41:18 | |
'to his missus over the phone.' | 0:41:18 | 0:41:19 | |
My hands are so cold. | 0:41:22 | 0:41:24 | |
I don't feel like I'm making any progress. | 0:41:26 | 0:41:29 | |
The current's too strong. | 0:41:30 | 0:41:31 | |
Where? | 0:41:35 | 0:41:37 | |
WOMAN SPEAKS IN OWN LANGUAGE | 0:41:39 | 0:41:40 | |
'Mao swam the Yangtze several times. | 0:41:42 | 0:41:44 | |
'If I could do it, it can't be the toughest swim. | 0:41:44 | 0:41:46 | |
'But the last time he swam the river was in 1966, | 0:41:46 | 0:41:49 | |
'when he was 72 years old. | 0:41:49 | 0:41:51 | |
'It might seem surprising now, but his feats really did help him | 0:41:51 | 0:41:55 | |
'to take and keep control of the country.' | 0:41:55 | 0:41:58 | |
I swam the Yangtze! | 0:41:58 | 0:42:00 | |
'Many historians have concluded | 0:42:06 | 0:42:08 | |
'that Mao was a monster to rival Stalin or Hitler. | 0:42:08 | 0:42:11 | |
'Tens of millions perished under his rule. | 0:42:13 | 0:42:16 | |
'He wanted to obliterate Chinese culture, | 0:42:16 | 0:42:19 | |
'destroying traditional faiths and religious beliefs. | 0:42:19 | 0:42:23 | |
'He remains a complicated figure in China today.' | 0:42:23 | 0:42:25 | |
What do most people in China think of Chairman Mao? | 0:42:27 | 0:42:31 | |
Is he seen as a controversial figure at all, | 0:42:31 | 0:42:33 | |
or is he generally seen as the creator of modern China? | 0:42:33 | 0:42:38 | |
Well, two sides. | 0:42:38 | 0:42:40 | |
On one side, people still think he is a national hero | 0:42:40 | 0:42:46 | |
and he is a great person in Chinese history. | 0:42:46 | 0:42:49 | |
On the other side, I think today, | 0:42:49 | 0:42:52 | |
China's people also talk about the mistakes he made. | 0:42:52 | 0:42:58 | |
It's more and more open for people to talk about this. | 0:42:58 | 0:43:01 | |
'After Mao's death in 1976, China's leaders were able to start | 0:43:03 | 0:43:07 | |
'slowly reforming the economy. | 0:43:07 | 0:43:09 | |
'And, in recent years, the Chinese have begun rediscovering the more | 0:43:09 | 0:43:12 | |
'spiritual and philosophical side to their lives, which Mao | 0:43:12 | 0:43:16 | |
'and communism sought to suppress.' | 0:43:16 | 0:43:18 | |
The sense I have is that faith and belief and tradition and custom is | 0:43:19 | 0:43:23 | |
something that a lot of Chinese people now are searching for. | 0:43:23 | 0:43:28 | |
Yeah, I think so. | 0:43:28 | 0:43:29 | |
Actually, we have so many years of history and | 0:43:29 | 0:43:33 | |
we have such great culture | 0:43:33 | 0:43:35 | |
and traditions that never fade away from Chinese people's lives. | 0:43:35 | 0:43:39 | |
We still respect our ancestor. | 0:43:41 | 0:43:43 | |
We respect our philosophies and religion. | 0:43:43 | 0:43:47 | |
I think that's great things. | 0:43:47 | 0:43:49 | |
'From Wuhan, we travelled another 300 miles east to Nanjing, | 0:43:59 | 0:44:03 | |
'a former capital of China right on the Yangtze.' | 0:44:03 | 0:44:05 | |
We've just come to a viewing platform next to a bridge over | 0:44:07 | 0:44:11 | |
the Yangtze, because we are heading...into the city of Nanjing. | 0:44:11 | 0:44:18 | |
'In the 1930s, this city, then known as Nanking, | 0:44:24 | 0:44:27 | |
'was invaded by the Japanese, | 0:44:27 | 0:44:28 | |
'who carried out a notorious massacre here. | 0:44:28 | 0:44:32 | |
'But nearly 100 years earlier, it had also been invaded... | 0:44:32 | 0:44:35 | |
'by the British.' | 0:44:35 | 0:44:37 | |
In the 1800s, China lost the so-called Opium Wars. | 0:44:39 | 0:44:43 | |
This was a particularly shameful episode in British | 0:44:43 | 0:44:47 | |
and Western history, when we went to war against China, | 0:44:47 | 0:44:50 | |
basically because we wanted to have | 0:44:50 | 0:44:52 | |
the right to sell the Chinese people drugs. | 0:44:52 | 0:44:55 | |
As a result of the Opium Wars, | 0:45:00 | 0:45:02 | |
this city and many others like it, were opened to foreign trade, | 0:45:02 | 0:45:06 | |
with large areas effectively under British control. | 0:45:06 | 0:45:10 | |
Christian missionaries also began arriving in the country | 0:45:10 | 0:45:13 | |
and it was said that Christianity came here on a cannonball. | 0:45:13 | 0:45:17 | |
'British and American missionaries used the Yangtze to access | 0:45:23 | 0:45:27 | |
'the interior of the country. | 0:45:27 | 0:45:30 | |
In the second half of the 20th century, | 0:45:33 | 0:45:35 | |
Christianity was ruthlessly | 0:45:35 | 0:45:37 | |
suppressed by China's communist leaders. | 0:45:37 | 0:45:40 | |
But it's now making an extraordinary comeback. | 0:45:40 | 0:45:43 | |
When the Communist Party took over in 1949, | 0:45:46 | 0:45:49 | |
there were thought to be about one million Christians in the country. | 0:45:49 | 0:45:54 | |
Today, there are anything up to 100 million Christians in China. | 0:45:54 | 0:46:00 | |
More Christians, in fact, than there are members of the Communist Party. | 0:46:00 | 0:46:04 | |
'By some estimates, there could be | 0:46:09 | 0:46:11 | |
'400 million Christians in China in 30 years' time, | 0:46:11 | 0:46:14 | |
'making it the biggest Christian nation on earth.' | 0:46:14 | 0:46:17 | |
What's this queue of traffic for? | 0:46:22 | 0:46:24 | |
'We'd arrived in Nanjing on Easter Sunday and we were | 0:46:24 | 0:46:27 | |
'heading to a newly-built church to see this phenomenon for ourselves.' | 0:46:27 | 0:46:31 | |
-You don't think the traffic's here for the church, do you? -I think so. | 0:46:33 | 0:46:38 | |
This is a traffic jam for people trying to get to church! | 0:46:38 | 0:46:41 | |
Let's walk. | 0:46:43 | 0:46:44 | |
Hang on, that can't all be a church. | 0:46:46 | 0:46:48 | |
-The whole thing? -Yeah. | 0:46:49 | 0:46:51 | |
It's like a stadium. | 0:46:52 | 0:46:53 | |
MUSIC AND SINGING | 0:46:58 | 0:47:01 | |
'This brand-new church can hold up to 5,000 people - | 0:47:07 | 0:47:10 | |
'most of the seats were taken. | 0:47:10 | 0:47:12 | |
'The service included a dramatic re-enactment of the entire | 0:47:21 | 0:47:24 | |
'Easter story, with some colourful dancing thrown in for good measure.' | 0:47:24 | 0:47:28 | |
OK. Now I see why they draw a crowd! | 0:47:41 | 0:47:43 | |
'It's now possible to be both a Christian | 0:47:51 | 0:47:54 | |
'and a member of the Communist Party. | 0:47:54 | 0:47:56 | |
'In fact, some government officials | 0:47:59 | 0:48:00 | |
'apparently think Christianity could help to protect | 0:48:00 | 0:48:03 | |
'the masses from the lure of selfishness and capitalist greed.' | 0:48:03 | 0:48:07 | |
Have you been a Christian for a long time, or are you a new convert? | 0:48:08 | 0:48:12 | |
-TRANSLATION: -I was a member of the Communist Party in the past. | 0:48:13 | 0:48:17 | |
I also believed in God but I didn't dare go to church. | 0:48:17 | 0:48:20 | |
Later on, I heard that Communist Party members can go to church too. | 0:48:20 | 0:48:25 | |
Now even the Communist Party believes in Christianity. | 0:48:25 | 0:48:28 | |
'I was surprised to see that the re-enactment of the crucifixion | 0:48:33 | 0:48:36 | |
'inspired a really emotional response in people. | 0:48:36 | 0:48:39 | |
'After the service, I had a few minutes with minister Li Lancheng. | 0:48:47 | 0:48:51 | |
Thank you for letting us come and see the service. | 0:48:51 | 0:48:54 | |
So, people in China have said that with the rise of capitalism, | 0:48:57 | 0:49:02 | |
that China has become a tougher, harder place. | 0:49:02 | 0:49:07 | |
-TRANSLATION: -With the development of the economy, | 0:49:09 | 0:49:11 | |
people are less connected to one another | 0:49:11 | 0:49:13 | |
and family ties are getting weaker. | 0:49:13 | 0:49:15 | |
Obviously, the church is very new. Were the authorities, | 0:49:15 | 0:49:19 | |
was the government, a help | 0:49:19 | 0:49:21 | |
or a hindrance to you when you were building it? | 0:49:21 | 0:49:25 | |
This piece of land was allocated to the church by the government. | 0:49:28 | 0:49:32 | |
This church wouldn't exist without the government's permission. | 0:49:32 | 0:49:35 | |
The government also covered some of the costs of construction. | 0:49:35 | 0:49:38 | |
Can I ask how much? | 0:49:38 | 0:49:39 | |
Did they pay a percentage, or can you tell us a figure? | 0:49:39 | 0:49:42 | |
It cost £10 million and the government | 0:49:45 | 0:49:47 | |
provided £3 million in total. | 0:49:47 | 0:49:49 | |
In other words, just less than a third of the cost. | 0:49:49 | 0:49:52 | |
The government paid a third of the money towards the church?! | 0:49:53 | 0:49:57 | |
That's incredible. | 0:49:57 | 0:49:59 | |
'The state will often support churches that toe the line, | 0:50:00 | 0:50:04 | |
'but not all of them do. | 0:50:04 | 0:50:06 | |
'There are thousands of underground churches in China that reject | 0:50:09 | 0:50:13 | |
'state control and suffer harassment as a result.' | 0:50:13 | 0:50:16 | |
-So we're off to Shanghai! -Yeah. | 0:50:19 | 0:50:22 | |
'Most of the population here say they believe in something, | 0:50:22 | 0:50:25 | |
'and hundreds of millions are | 0:50:25 | 0:50:26 | |
'Christians, Buddhists, Daoists, or Muslims. | 0:50:26 | 0:50:29 | |
'But religious Chinese are only | 0:50:32 | 0:50:34 | |
'allowed to practise their faith with state approval. | 0:50:34 | 0:50:36 | |
'This is still a country of control.' | 0:50:36 | 0:50:38 | |
On this journey along the Yangtze, | 0:50:44 | 0:50:46 | |
we've only really encountered the official religions in China. | 0:50:46 | 0:50:51 | |
In the far west of the country, there are Islamic separatist groups, | 0:50:51 | 0:50:55 | |
and many Muslims in China say they suffer oppression. | 0:50:55 | 0:50:59 | |
And then, of course, rather famously or infamously, | 0:50:59 | 0:51:01 | |
the Chinese state cracked down very heavily on the Falun Gong movement, | 0:51:01 | 0:51:07 | |
which many of its practitioners see as being a spiritual or | 0:51:07 | 0:51:10 | |
religious organisation. | 0:51:10 | 0:51:12 | |
So if you are a member | 0:51:14 | 0:51:15 | |
or if you're a practitioner of one of the official religions, | 0:51:15 | 0:51:18 | |
it seems there is a lot of increased openness and awareness | 0:51:18 | 0:51:23 | |
and people are turning to those religions. | 0:51:23 | 0:51:25 | |
But if you fall outside that framework, | 0:51:25 | 0:51:29 | |
then it seems you can encounter a lot of problems with the state. | 0:51:29 | 0:51:33 | |
'It would take about four hours to drive the 200 miles | 0:51:37 | 0:51:40 | |
'from Nanjing to Shanghai, | 0:51:40 | 0:51:43 | |
'but on China's super modern bullet trains I hardly had time for a nap.' | 0:51:43 | 0:51:47 | |
We're in Shanghai! | 0:51:52 | 0:51:53 | |
'With a population of more than 24 million, | 0:51:58 | 0:52:01 | |
'Shanghai is, by some measurements, | 0:52:01 | 0:52:03 | |
'not just the biggest city on the Yangtze, | 0:52:03 | 0:52:05 | |
'but one of the biggest on earth.' | 0:52:05 | 0:52:07 | |
Flipping heck! | 0:52:13 | 0:52:14 | |
-It's like a cathedral. -It's the biggest in China. | 0:52:17 | 0:52:20 | |
'China could soon overtake America to become the largest | 0:52:28 | 0:52:31 | |
'economy in the world. | 0:52:31 | 0:52:33 | |
'So the moral and ethical values chosen by people here to guide them, | 0:52:36 | 0:52:40 | |
'and, by extension, their country, | 0:52:40 | 0:52:42 | |
'will have an enormous impact on the entire planet. | 0:52:42 | 0:52:45 | |
'It was our last night on the road, and Li Li wanted to take me | 0:52:49 | 0:52:52 | |
'to one of her favourite restaurants.' | 0:52:52 | 0:52:54 | |
-New Age Veggie. -New Age Veggie! | 0:52:58 | 0:53:00 | |
A vegetarian restaurant? | 0:53:00 | 0:53:02 | |
Yeah, you will see something really different. Come on. | 0:53:02 | 0:53:05 | |
I'm a committed carnivore. | 0:53:05 | 0:53:07 | |
-It's not a Buddhist restaurant, is it? -Um...connected. | 0:53:09 | 0:53:13 | |
-Really? -Yes. | 0:53:13 | 0:53:14 | |
Very nice, Li Li. | 0:53:22 | 0:53:23 | |
Yes, we're right by the window. | 0:53:23 | 0:53:26 | |
And menu on an iPad. | 0:53:26 | 0:53:27 | |
Very 21st century. | 0:53:29 | 0:53:32 | |
It's just menu. Do you want to explore the new dishes? | 0:53:32 | 0:53:36 | |
I see. OK. So the dishes, they look like meat. | 0:53:36 | 0:53:42 | |
Stewed veggie pork balls. | 0:53:43 | 0:53:45 | |
That's meant to be vegetarian salmon sashimi. | 0:53:47 | 0:53:51 | |
Looks quite real, right? | 0:53:51 | 0:53:52 | |
That looks pretty real. | 0:53:52 | 0:53:55 | |
After this meal, you will...you will have more | 0:53:55 | 0:53:59 | |
possibilities to become a vegetarian, too. | 0:53:59 | 0:54:01 | |
-Oh, you think so? -Yeah. | 0:54:01 | 0:54:02 | |
You're looking to convert me to vegetarianism now, are you? | 0:54:02 | 0:54:06 | |
Um, we will see. | 0:54:06 | 0:54:08 | |
We should have the salmon. | 0:54:11 | 0:54:12 | |
Is that the meaty one? | 0:54:14 | 0:54:15 | |
Should we have that? | 0:54:15 | 0:54:16 | |
Yeah. | 0:54:16 | 0:54:17 | |
What is the Buddhist connection here? | 0:54:19 | 0:54:22 | |
Well, in China, most of the vegetarians are still like Buddhist. | 0:54:22 | 0:54:27 | |
So being a vegetarian means not just care about yourself | 0:54:27 | 0:54:31 | |
but also caring about the world, about Earth. | 0:54:31 | 0:54:34 | |
Is it a growing movement then? | 0:54:36 | 0:54:39 | |
Yeah. The number of vegetarians in China, going up very quickly. | 0:54:39 | 0:54:45 | |
I read an article that says today we have more than 50 million. | 0:54:45 | 0:54:50 | |
-Meatballs! -Meatballs, yes. Xie xie. | 0:54:55 | 0:54:58 | |
A veggie version. | 0:54:58 | 0:55:00 | |
Oh, wow! | 0:55:00 | 0:55:01 | |
That really does look like salmon. | 0:55:01 | 0:55:04 | |
That's really impressive. | 0:55:04 | 0:55:06 | |
I'm looking forward to trying this. | 0:55:06 | 0:55:08 | |
That's really good. | 0:55:11 | 0:55:12 | |
This is really fascinating, Li Li. | 0:55:14 | 0:55:16 | |
People worry about rising China, the Chinese dragon, | 0:55:16 | 0:55:20 | |
but actually, if half the country turns to Buddhism, | 0:55:20 | 0:55:23 | |
you're not going to be a much-feared military empire that many | 0:55:23 | 0:55:29 | |
in the West think it could be | 0:55:29 | 0:55:31 | |
if half the population are peace-loving Buddhists, is it? | 0:55:31 | 0:55:34 | |
Mm. Here in China, | 0:55:34 | 0:55:36 | |
we say this century is a century about the waking up of the soul. | 0:55:36 | 0:55:42 | |
Waking up of the soul? | 0:55:42 | 0:55:44 | |
-Yes. -I haven't heard that ever before. | 0:55:44 | 0:55:47 | |
It's really interesting. | 0:55:47 | 0:55:48 | |
Thanks, Li Li. Cheers, m'dear. | 0:55:50 | 0:55:52 | |
Thank you for bringing us here. | 0:55:52 | 0:55:55 | |
It's been an amazing and a very, very eye-opening journey. | 0:55:55 | 0:55:58 | |
Thank you! | 0:55:58 | 0:56:00 | |
'The waking-up of the soul that IS clearly happening here will | 0:56:07 | 0:56:11 | |
'have enormous implications. | 0:56:11 | 0:56:13 | |
'This isn't just about religion. | 0:56:13 | 0:56:15 | |
'This is a transformation that will affect politics. | 0:56:15 | 0:56:18 | |
'It could help to re-define China's relationship with | 0:56:18 | 0:56:20 | |
'the rest of the world. | 0:56:20 | 0:56:22 | |
'The next day, having said goodbye to Li Li, I headed out to the point | 0:56:28 | 0:56:32 | |
'where the mighty Yangtze finally flows out into the sea.' | 0:56:32 | 0:56:35 | |
As I come towards the end of the journey, | 0:56:40 | 0:56:42 | |
it's really clear to me that huge numbers of people in this country | 0:56:42 | 0:56:46 | |
are turning to religion and faith. | 0:56:46 | 0:56:50 | |
And the reason they're doing that is, in my view, | 0:56:50 | 0:56:52 | |
cos this country has advanced even further | 0:56:52 | 0:56:55 | |
and even faster than many of us in the West realise. | 0:56:55 | 0:56:59 | |
Hundreds of millions of people here have been lifted out of poverty. | 0:56:59 | 0:57:04 | |
Often, their material needs are being met, but now they want new | 0:57:04 | 0:57:07 | |
purpose and meaning in their lives | 0:57:07 | 0:57:09 | |
that neither communism nor capitalism seem able to provide. | 0:57:09 | 0:57:13 | |
Here we are. | 0:57:24 | 0:57:26 | |
This is a sort of memorial, | 0:57:26 | 0:57:29 | |
monument, or just a marker, really, for the end of the Yangtze. | 0:57:29 | 0:57:36 | |
Ha-ha! | 0:57:44 | 0:57:46 | |
Look! The end of the Yangtze. | 0:57:46 | 0:57:48 | |
You can see for miles, look - right out to sea. | 0:57:50 | 0:57:53 | |
Ah! | 0:57:53 | 0:57:55 | |
It's been...an amazing series of journeys. | 0:57:57 | 0:58:00 | |
It's been thrilling and surprising for me, actually, | 0:58:03 | 0:58:06 | |
just how much I feel I've learnt from following these sacred rivers, | 0:58:06 | 0:58:10 | |
about the cultures and the countries that the rivers flow through. | 0:58:10 | 0:58:14 | |
These rivers are polluted, they're battled over, | 0:58:17 | 0:58:20 | |
but they're still life-giving arteries that support | 0:58:20 | 0:58:24 | |
hundreds of millions of people. | 0:58:24 | 0:58:27 | |
These rivers have shaped civilisations, | 0:58:27 | 0:58:30 | |
and they'll continue to shape our modern world. | 0:58:30 | 0:58:34 |