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Westminster Abbey is a flagship institution. | 0:00:05 | 0:00:09 | |
It's right there at the centre of national life in this country. | 0:00:09 | 0:00:12 | |
Westminster Abbey is the Coronation Church. | 0:00:12 | 0:00:14 | |
The Abbey has been the place where people commemorate | 0:00:14 | 0:00:17 | |
the great men and women of our history. | 0:00:17 | 0:00:19 | |
Here was the origins of Parliament. | 0:00:19 | 0:00:22 | |
I think of the Abbey as being an upbeat place. | 0:00:22 | 0:00:24 | |
The most unusual phone call was from Michelle Obama's Secret Service. | 0:00:24 | 0:00:28 | |
On a standard day we would probably process a thousand people per hour. | 0:00:28 | 0:00:31 | |
Even though we are a massive tourist attraction, | 0:00:31 | 0:00:34 | |
we still are very much a living church. | 0:00:34 | 0:00:36 | |
Westminster Abbey represents faith at the heart of the nation. | 0:00:36 | 0:00:39 | |
To think there have been people | 0:00:39 | 0:00:41 | |
with their eyes turned in the same direction, | 0:00:41 | 0:00:43 | |
towards worship of God in this place, for over 1,000 years. | 0:00:43 | 0:00:46 | |
There's a feeling of a really Rolls-Royce musical setup here. | 0:00:46 | 0:00:49 | |
Being the Queen's choristers, we really can't afford to let her down. | 0:00:49 | 0:00:53 | |
Quite a lot I see people crying. | 0:00:53 | 0:00:55 | |
When you sing, it brings tears of joy AND sadness. | 0:00:55 | 0:00:59 | |
I do wake up every day and think this is a fantastic place to be. | 0:00:59 | 0:01:03 | |
It's a thrill even after 17 years. | 0:01:03 | 0:01:04 | |
Can you believe you've got that to look after? | 0:01:04 | 0:01:07 | |
There's a tremendous sense of being part of something | 0:01:07 | 0:01:10 | |
that goes back all those hundreds of years. | 0:01:10 | 0:01:12 | |
Magnificent building. I feel like I'm part of history just being here. | 0:01:12 | 0:01:15 | |
Boys, here, come forward just a little bit for me. | 0:01:28 | 0:01:31 | |
Lovely. Now I can see you. | 0:01:31 | 0:01:33 | |
I'm going to have the Dean and Chapter in the middle, | 0:01:33 | 0:01:35 | |
so you're not to join up, OK? | 0:01:35 | 0:01:37 | |
Founded by Catholic monks in 960AD, | 0:01:37 | 0:01:41 | |
a church has stood in London on the banks of the Thames | 0:01:41 | 0:01:44 | |
for over a thousand years. | 0:01:44 | 0:01:46 | |
Today, it's no longer a monastery, and employs 250 staff | 0:01:48 | 0:01:53 | |
and 500 volunteers to support 1,500 services | 0:01:53 | 0:01:56 | |
and over a million visitors a year. | 0:01:56 | 0:02:00 | |
Boys, best smile out, OK, here we go, looking to me. | 0:02:00 | 0:02:03 | |
Thank you very much. | 0:02:03 | 0:02:05 | |
That was the one for the police, now the Inland Revenue... | 0:02:05 | 0:02:09 | |
The history of the Abbey reflects the history of Britain, | 0:02:09 | 0:02:13 | |
and the seismic rift in the 16th century | 0:02:13 | 0:02:15 | |
between Catholics and Protestants. | 0:02:15 | 0:02:18 | |
This summer, the Abbey will be making a historic trip | 0:02:21 | 0:02:24 | |
to the Vatican, to help heal this centuries-old divide. | 0:02:24 | 0:02:28 | |
For 1,500 years the Church in England | 0:02:28 | 0:02:30 | |
was part of the greater western Church, | 0:02:30 | 0:02:32 | |
the Roman Catholic Church, | 0:02:32 | 0:02:34 | |
and then 500 years ago it broke away, | 0:02:34 | 0:02:37 | |
immediately over the divorce of King Henry VIII, | 0:02:37 | 0:02:40 | |
but then the Elizabethan settlement under Queen Elizabeth. | 0:02:40 | 0:02:43 | |
There was huge persecution on both sides. | 0:02:43 | 0:02:46 | |
The Catholic Queen Mary persecuted Protestants. | 0:02:46 | 0:02:49 | |
So this division took place in great rancour and anger, | 0:02:49 | 0:02:52 | |
but we never quite lost faith in each other. | 0:02:52 | 0:02:55 | |
We never stopped seeing each other as churches. | 0:02:55 | 0:02:57 | |
Over the past 50 years, there has been a slow thawing | 0:03:00 | 0:03:03 | |
of relations between the Church of England and the Vatican. | 0:03:03 | 0:03:06 | |
In 2010, Benedict XVI became the first Pope | 0:03:06 | 0:03:10 | |
to make a state visit to a British monarch. | 0:03:10 | 0:03:14 | |
The congregation here represents the whole of Christianity | 0:03:14 | 0:03:17 | |
in these islands. | 0:03:17 | 0:03:20 | |
And the first Pope in history to set foot in Westminster Abbey. | 0:03:20 | 0:03:25 | |
CHOIR SINGS | 0:03:25 | 0:03:28 | |
When the Pope came here for the Papal visit, | 0:03:28 | 0:03:30 | |
one of the things that was evident to me and to all of us | 0:03:30 | 0:03:34 | |
is that he loved the music. | 0:03:34 | 0:03:37 | |
And he was obviously very impressed | 0:03:37 | 0:03:38 | |
with the quality of music that he saw here. | 0:03:38 | 0:03:41 | |
What we never imagined at the time | 0:03:41 | 0:03:43 | |
was that it would result in an invitation to the choir | 0:03:43 | 0:03:47 | |
to go and sing at the Papal Mass | 0:03:47 | 0:03:52 | |
in St Peter's Church, on St Peter's Day. | 0:03:52 | 0:03:54 | |
Now that is extraordinary. | 0:03:54 | 0:03:56 | |
The trip to Rome has added significance because St Peter, | 0:04:01 | 0:04:04 | |
the first Pope, is also the Abbey's patron saint. | 0:04:04 | 0:04:08 | |
How many of you have been to Rome before? | 0:04:08 | 0:04:10 | |
The man spearheading the visit is the Abbey's spiritual leader, | 0:04:13 | 0:04:16 | |
the Dean. | 0:04:16 | 0:04:17 | |
He's come to the Choir School to talk to the boys. | 0:04:17 | 0:04:20 | |
This is a thing that has never, ever, ever happened before. | 0:04:20 | 0:04:27 | |
What you need to bear in mind is that one of the great pains | 0:04:27 | 0:04:30 | |
for us as Christians is our division from one another. | 0:04:30 | 0:04:35 | |
We love one another, | 0:04:35 | 0:04:37 | |
and it's important that we show respect for each other's traditions. | 0:04:37 | 0:04:40 | |
And that out of the pain of separation | 0:04:40 | 0:04:43 | |
we pray for the peace of reconciliation. | 0:04:43 | 0:04:47 | |
So our sense of being separate is a pain. | 0:04:47 | 0:04:51 | |
It's hard for us, but we ought, in that sense of deprivation, | 0:04:51 | 0:04:55 | |
to be praying for the gift of reconciliation. | 0:04:55 | 0:05:00 | |
And out of all that will grow a great visit, | 0:05:00 | 0:05:03 | |
and much more than that, will advance us together | 0:05:03 | 0:05:08 | |
on that great road towards Christian unity. | 0:05:08 | 0:05:11 | |
OK? | 0:05:11 | 0:05:13 | |
So you're engaged in a mission of vastly greater importance | 0:05:13 | 0:05:18 | |
than you can possibly imagine. | 0:05:18 | 0:05:21 | |
Hello. Good morning. How nice to see you. | 0:05:21 | 0:05:24 | |
And you. | 0:05:24 | 0:05:26 | |
Jonathan Milton. Hello. | 0:05:26 | 0:05:27 | |
-This is George. -Come on in, George. | 0:05:27 | 0:05:29 | |
The Abbey Choir School teaches up to 36 boarders | 0:05:29 | 0:05:32 | |
between the ages of 8 and 13. | 0:05:32 | 0:05:35 | |
During term-time, they sing eight services every week. | 0:05:35 | 0:05:38 | |
The standard is high and throughout the year, the master | 0:05:38 | 0:05:41 | |
of the choristers, James O'Donnell, holds auditions for new recruits. | 0:05:41 | 0:05:46 | |
Voice Trial is a rather awful name really for a series of auditions | 0:05:46 | 0:05:49 | |
that are designed | 0:05:49 | 0:05:51 | |
to establish whether a seven-year-old boy | 0:05:51 | 0:05:54 | |
has what it takes to be a chorister here. | 0:05:54 | 0:05:57 | |
I am looking for somebody who has a reasonable way of already | 0:05:57 | 0:06:01 | |
expressing themselves through their voice, through their singing voice. | 0:06:01 | 0:06:04 | |
Who's got a bit of get-up-and-go as well, a bright spark. | 0:06:04 | 0:06:08 | |
Somebody with a bit of resilience, | 0:06:08 | 0:06:11 | |
maybe a slightly quirky sense of humour or something about them | 0:06:11 | 0:06:16 | |
that isn't going to mean they're going to stand there like a pudding | 0:06:16 | 0:06:19 | |
and receive instructions and just reproduce them mechanically. | 0:06:19 | 0:06:23 | |
I want someone who'll engage. | 0:06:23 | 0:06:24 | |
OK, lovely. Can you see the music there? | 0:06:24 | 0:06:27 | |
Take a step back, so I can really hear you properly. Good chap. | 0:06:27 | 0:06:31 | |
# Oh, for the wings For the wings of a dove | 0:06:38 | 0:06:44 | |
# Far away, far away would I rove... # | 0:06:44 | 0:06:50 | |
Lovely. | 0:06:50 | 0:06:52 | |
George is just one of around 25 boys | 0:06:52 | 0:06:54 | |
auditioned over the course of a year | 0:06:54 | 0:06:56 | |
for a possible six places. | 0:06:56 | 0:06:58 | |
About a year ago | 0:06:59 | 0:07:01 | |
we met someone who had a nephew at the school. | 0:07:01 | 0:07:04 | |
So we looked it up on the website, | 0:07:04 | 0:07:07 | |
and we came to the open day, | 0:07:07 | 0:07:10 | |
and it all started then, really. | 0:07:10 | 0:07:12 | |
As we came out, and he said very seriously, | 0:07:12 | 0:07:14 | |
having been taken off while we were talking to the headmaster, | 0:07:14 | 0:07:17 | |
he'd been taken off by some of the older boys | 0:07:17 | 0:07:20 | |
to see the dormitories and the other things. | 0:07:20 | 0:07:22 | |
And as he came out he said very quietly, | 0:07:22 | 0:07:24 | |
"I want to go to that school." | 0:07:24 | 0:07:26 | |
He hasn't changed his mind since. | 0:07:26 | 0:07:28 | |
And any boy who spent five years here | 0:07:30 | 0:07:33 | |
as a matter of routine | 0:07:33 | 0:07:34 | |
producing something which is outstanding every day, | 0:07:34 | 0:07:37 | |
as good as it gets anywhere in the world, must learn the lesson | 0:07:37 | 0:07:41 | |
that practice pays, and do something properly and you get results. | 0:07:41 | 0:07:46 | |
OK, if I play you three notes at once, | 0:07:46 | 0:07:48 | |
do you think you could sing those? OK? I'm sure you can. Just listen. | 0:07:48 | 0:07:51 | |
It's all about just what you hear, OK? | 0:07:51 | 0:07:54 | |
La-la-la. | 0:07:55 | 0:07:58 | |
Yes. Do you recognise that sound? | 0:07:58 | 0:08:00 | |
Do you know what it's called? | 0:08:00 | 0:08:02 | |
What we call that chord? | 0:08:02 | 0:08:04 | |
It doesn't matter if you don't. | 0:08:05 | 0:08:07 | |
What do you call a bicycle with three wheels? | 0:08:09 | 0:08:11 | |
-A tricycle. -And this is called a... Does it ring a bell? | 0:08:13 | 0:08:17 | |
-Triad. -That it! Triad. Because it's got three notes. | 0:08:17 | 0:08:22 | |
That's all it is. OK? | 0:08:22 | 0:08:24 | |
It's not exactly complicated. Good. | 0:08:24 | 0:08:26 | |
If George is selected, he'll start in September | 0:08:26 | 0:08:30 | |
and spend his next five years | 0:08:30 | 0:08:32 | |
singing at a professional level in a choir | 0:08:32 | 0:08:34 | |
that performs for an incredible range of congregations | 0:08:34 | 0:08:36 | |
that include royalty, statesmen and the world's religious leaders. | 0:08:36 | 0:08:41 | |
The Dalai Lama arrives at the West Door. | 0:08:41 | 0:08:44 | |
Today, the Abbey is welcoming | 0:08:44 | 0:08:46 | |
one of the world's great spiritual leaders, | 0:08:46 | 0:08:48 | |
the Dalai Lama. | 0:08:48 | 0:08:51 | |
It seemed to me that it was important in itself to welcome the Dalai Lama | 0:08:51 | 0:08:55 | |
here, that it would be a statement of our interest in the plight | 0:08:55 | 0:09:00 | |
of the people of Tibet and the people in exile with the Dalai Lama. | 0:09:00 | 0:09:04 | |
But more particularly it is a chance to recognise | 0:09:04 | 0:09:06 | |
that he is a world figure promoting peace and reconciliation | 0:09:06 | 0:09:10 | |
and mutual understanding, and that we could work with him. | 0:09:10 | 0:09:14 | |
We recognise that the Abbey has a worldwide significance, | 0:09:14 | 0:09:16 | |
and therefore what we do can be exemplary | 0:09:16 | 0:09:19 | |
and can encourage people in other places as well. | 0:09:19 | 0:09:22 | |
Your Holiness, it's a real delight and a pleasure to welcome you | 0:09:25 | 0:09:29 | |
back to Westminster after almost 30 years. | 0:09:29 | 0:09:31 | |
My beloved brothers and sisters, we gather from many Christian | 0:09:33 | 0:09:36 | |
and faith traditions in this holy place | 0:09:36 | 0:09:39 | |
for a moment of reflection and prayer. | 0:09:39 | 0:09:41 | |
On behalf of the Dean and Chapter, I warmly welcome you all. | 0:09:41 | 0:09:47 | |
Respected spiritual leaders, spiritual brothers and sisters. | 0:09:49 | 0:09:55 | |
Once more I find this opportunity | 0:09:55 | 0:10:02 | |
in this magnificent church, chapel, | 0:10:02 | 0:10:08 | |
people from different religious faith sit together. | 0:10:08 | 0:10:15 | |
And I think pray together. | 0:10:15 | 0:10:19 | |
Is really wonderful. | 0:10:19 | 0:10:21 | |
BOY SINGS | 0:10:23 | 0:10:24 | |
Establishing good relationships with people of different | 0:10:29 | 0:10:32 | |
religious traditions, whether it be other Christian traditions, | 0:10:32 | 0:10:36 | |
as with the Roman Catholics, or other religions | 0:10:36 | 0:10:40 | |
as with the Dalai Lama here - | 0:10:40 | 0:10:41 | |
all of those are very important things for the Abbey | 0:10:41 | 0:10:45 | |
to be involved in, I think, | 0:10:45 | 0:10:46 | |
and this visit to Rome takes its part within that broader business | 0:10:46 | 0:10:51 | |
of being friendly towards ecumenism | 0:10:51 | 0:10:54 | |
and being friendly towards people of other faiths altogether. | 0:10:54 | 0:10:58 | |
That's part of what we want to do, and it's part of our mission. | 0:10:58 | 0:11:00 | |
CHOIR SINGS | 0:11:00 | 0:11:02 | |
Absolutely wonderful. Extraordinary man. | 0:11:07 | 0:11:09 | |
Extraordinary man. Really great. Thank you very much, everyone. | 0:11:09 | 0:11:14 | |
Organising the historic five-day tour to Italy | 0:11:17 | 0:11:20 | |
is the responsibility of Minor Canon Jamie Hawkey. | 0:11:20 | 0:11:24 | |
Salve, buonasera... | 0:11:24 | 0:11:25 | |
SPEAKS ITALIAN | 0:11:25 | 0:11:27 | |
It's quite unusual to be organising something away from the Abbey. | 0:11:28 | 0:11:32 | |
Most of our work here as Minor Canons is organising services | 0:11:32 | 0:11:35 | |
that people will come to here, | 0:11:35 | 0:11:37 | |
so we're extremely used to internal liaison | 0:11:37 | 0:11:40 | |
and to external liaison with outside agencies, outside individuals, | 0:11:40 | 0:11:44 | |
people who are going to come here for a special service. | 0:11:44 | 0:11:47 | |
But it's quite unique to be organising something | 0:11:47 | 0:11:49 | |
that not only is not in the Abbey and not in England, but in Italy. | 0:11:49 | 0:11:54 | |
This isn't just the Abbey Choir | 0:11:54 | 0:11:56 | |
going out to do a big concert in a concert hall. | 0:11:56 | 0:11:58 | |
This is the Abbey Choir singing at a Papal Mass, | 0:11:58 | 0:12:01 | |
at the Mass which is one of the biggest occasions | 0:12:01 | 0:12:04 | |
in the Vatican calendar. | 0:12:04 | 0:12:05 | |
Seven weeks before the trip to Rome, | 0:12:05 | 0:12:07 | |
the Sistine Chapel choir is in London. | 0:12:07 | 0:12:11 | |
In recognition of the importance of the Pope's invitation, | 0:12:11 | 0:12:14 | |
they've come to the Abbey for a rehearsal. | 0:12:14 | 0:12:17 | |
SPEAKS ITALIAN | 0:12:17 | 0:12:19 | |
The Pope has stipulated what he wants from the two choirs together. | 0:12:19 | 0:12:24 | |
He wants the Missa Papae Marcelli by Palestrina, | 0:12:24 | 0:12:27 | |
which is one of the most famous settings of the Mass ever composed. | 0:12:27 | 0:12:30 | |
Both choirs have sung the music many times before, | 0:12:30 | 0:12:34 | |
so the challenge for the conductors, James O'Donnell | 0:12:34 | 0:12:37 | |
and Monsignor Massimo Palombella, | 0:12:37 | 0:12:39 | |
is to integrate their very different sounds. | 0:12:39 | 0:12:42 | |
The Sistine Chapel choir has its own tradition | 0:12:43 | 0:12:46 | |
which goes back many centuries, | 0:12:46 | 0:12:47 | |
and of course inevitably they develop their own style of singing. | 0:12:47 | 0:12:50 | |
And we have developed our own style of singing, | 0:12:50 | 0:12:52 | |
which comes partly from the language we speak - | 0:12:52 | 0:12:55 | |
they sing almost entirely Latin music. | 0:12:55 | 0:12:57 | |
They sing in a very much bigger building, which means that | 0:12:57 | 0:13:01 | |
quite a lot of their music | 0:13:01 | 0:13:02 | |
is perhaps less complicated rhythmically. | 0:13:02 | 0:13:05 | |
And they have a very direct sound. | 0:13:05 | 0:13:07 | |
We have a slightly more demure approach. | 0:13:07 | 0:13:10 | |
Good afternoon, and can I welcome to London | 0:13:10 | 0:13:14 | |
our colleagues from Rome. It's very exciting to be singing with you. | 0:13:14 | 0:13:18 | |
At the beginning of the Credo... # Da da da.. # | 0:13:18 | 0:13:22 | |
HE SINGS | 0:13:22 | 0:13:27 | |
CHOIRS SING | 0:13:31 | 0:13:35 | |
For James O'Donnell, who himself is a Roman Catholic, | 0:13:43 | 0:13:46 | |
the visit has a personal as well as a professional resonance. | 0:13:46 | 0:13:51 | |
To sing in Rome with the Sistine Chapel Choir at a Papal Mass | 0:13:51 | 0:13:54 | |
is going to be one of the most amazing moments of my life, I think. | 0:13:54 | 0:13:59 | |
I'm really looking forward | 0:14:01 | 0:14:02 | |
to singing to the Pope again | 0:14:02 | 0:14:04 | |
and I'm also really looking forward to seeing the Vatican | 0:14:04 | 0:14:08 | |
and the Sistine Chapel which I don't think I'd ever have seen otherwise. | 0:14:08 | 0:14:12 | |
Seeing the Pope again, that'll be quite cool. I remember | 0:14:12 | 0:14:16 | |
when the Pope came to the Abbey. | 0:14:16 | 0:14:19 | |
That was quite a big ceremony. | 0:14:19 | 0:14:21 | |
This is going to be even bigger. | 0:14:21 | 0:14:23 | |
I'm really excited | 0:14:23 | 0:14:24 | |
about the whole prospect. The Pope inviting us. | 0:14:24 | 0:14:28 | |
It's going to be amazing. | 0:14:28 | 0:14:29 | |
19 boys and 12 professional singers, | 0:14:39 | 0:14:43 | |
along with the music department, the Dean, several members of the clergy | 0:14:43 | 0:14:46 | |
and the press office - a total of 44 people will make the trip to Italy. | 0:14:46 | 0:14:50 | |
The Abbey's governing body, the Dean and Chapter, | 0:14:52 | 0:14:55 | |
has decided that the cost of the tour | 0:14:55 | 0:14:57 | |
will be met by the Abbey itself. | 0:14:57 | 0:14:59 | |
The man in charge of balancing the books | 0:14:59 | 0:15:01 | |
is the Canon Treasurer, Robert Reiss. | 0:15:01 | 0:15:04 | |
You can't have a medieval building like this without it costing you | 0:15:04 | 0:15:09 | |
quite a lot of money to look after it. | 0:15:09 | 0:15:11 | |
It costs about £11m a year to run Westminster Abbey. | 0:15:11 | 0:15:15 | |
And nine-tenths of our income comes from the charges at the door. | 0:15:15 | 0:15:20 | |
I think it's very important to say | 0:15:20 | 0:15:22 | |
that we never, ever charge for coming to services. | 0:15:22 | 0:15:26 | |
They are and will always remain free. | 0:15:26 | 0:15:28 | |
So we're not charging people to worship. | 0:15:28 | 0:15:30 | |
But if people are coming here as tourists to look at a place | 0:15:30 | 0:15:35 | |
of very considerable historical attraction, we really have no choice | 0:15:35 | 0:15:39 | |
but to charge them, because we have no other way of raising that money. | 0:15:39 | 0:15:44 | |
My role is head of Visitor Services. | 0:15:44 | 0:15:46 | |
I'm responsible for the 1.2 million paying visitors | 0:15:46 | 0:15:50 | |
last year as well as the 600,000 worshippers | 0:15:50 | 0:15:53 | |
that come into the Abbey every year. | 0:15:53 | 0:15:55 | |
On a standard day, we would probably process 1,000 people per hour. | 0:15:55 | 0:15:59 | |
We have quite a short space of time to get people in | 0:15:59 | 0:16:01 | |
because of our statutory services. | 0:16:01 | 0:16:03 | |
We open the doors around 9.30 most mornings | 0:16:03 | 0:16:06 | |
and we need to be closing by 3.30, so it's quite a short day. | 0:16:06 | 0:16:09 | |
During that time we would put 6,000 people through on a standard day. | 0:16:09 | 0:16:13 | |
It can be more, and it can be less, | 0:16:13 | 0:16:15 | |
but 1,000 people an hour is a very good rule of thumb we use here. | 0:16:15 | 0:16:20 | |
There by the gate is Robert Peel who founded the Metropolitan Police. | 0:16:20 | 0:16:23 | |
Robert's first name, short name, is Bobby. | 0:16:23 | 0:16:27 | |
Now you know, London bobby is so-called after Robert Peel. | 0:16:27 | 0:16:31 | |
The number isn't necessarily reflective of demand. | 0:16:31 | 0:16:34 | |
It's controlled by how many people | 0:16:34 | 0:16:36 | |
we can physically get into the building at any one time. | 0:16:36 | 0:16:39 | |
Making sure that, a - it's safe for people to still enter. | 0:16:39 | 0:16:42 | |
And b - that people inside are still getting the best possible visit. | 0:16:42 | 0:16:46 | |
It can at times feel very busy in the Abbey, | 0:16:46 | 0:16:49 | |
but we make sure people are still getting the most out of visiting us. | 0:16:49 | 0:16:52 | |
We don't have an open revolving door policy. | 0:16:52 | 0:16:55 | |
There are times when we have to slow things down just to make sure | 0:16:55 | 0:16:58 | |
the people inside are getting the best experience. | 0:16:58 | 0:17:00 | |
Excuse me, sir, there's no photography permitted inside. | 0:17:00 | 0:17:03 | |
'Last year we were' | 0:17:03 | 0:17:05 | |
phenomenally busy thanks to the Royal Wedding. | 0:17:05 | 0:17:07 | |
In fact we were busy from the minute | 0:17:07 | 0:17:09 | |
the royal engagement was announced, we started picking up. | 0:17:09 | 0:17:12 | |
The two weeks after the Royal Wedding, | 0:17:12 | 0:17:15 | |
the place was absolutely packed. | 0:17:15 | 0:17:17 | |
Can I help you at all? | 0:17:17 | 0:17:18 | |
I was just asking where Catherine walked down the aisle. Through here? | 0:17:18 | 0:17:22 | |
She came through the big door. | 0:17:22 | 0:17:23 | |
On the Royal Wedding day | 0:17:23 | 0:17:26 | |
I had to press the bell to signal | 0:17:26 | 0:17:27 | |
to the bell ringers to make sure | 0:17:27 | 0:17:29 | |
they started the bells at the correct time when she exits, | 0:17:29 | 0:17:31 | |
because we make sure that when they come to the door | 0:17:31 | 0:17:34 | |
at the end of the wedding, that the bells are ringing | 0:17:34 | 0:17:36 | |
perfectly at the right time. | 0:17:36 | 0:17:38 | |
Part of my job was to communicate. | 0:17:38 | 0:17:40 | |
We have a Morse code button | 0:17:40 | 0:17:42 | |
because of course they're up in the bell tower, | 0:17:42 | 0:17:45 | |
and I have a little button to press | 0:17:45 | 0:17:47 | |
to make sure they start at the right time. | 0:17:47 | 0:17:49 | |
That altar wasn't there. It's movable. It was moved | 0:17:49 | 0:17:52 | |
Oh, I see. | 0:17:52 | 0:17:54 | |
-She didn't hop over it. -Yeah, I didn't know if she went around it. | 0:17:54 | 0:17:58 | |
That staging and the altar can be moved | 0:17:58 | 0:18:00 | |
-and we do that for all our big services. -Oh. Right. | 0:18:00 | 0:18:03 | |
Mollie Johnston is one of 20 marshals employed by the Abbey | 0:18:03 | 0:18:07 | |
to ensure the smooth-running and safety of its million-plus visitors. | 0:18:07 | 0:18:12 | |
Hello! Do you need any help at all? | 0:18:12 | 0:18:16 | |
Everyone says no two days are the same, and it's absolutely true. | 0:18:16 | 0:18:19 | |
One day you're at a Royal Wedding, | 0:18:19 | 0:18:21 | |
next day President Obama's here. | 0:18:21 | 0:18:22 | |
But then I'll be doing something different. | 0:18:22 | 0:18:24 | |
I'll be interacting with the public, | 0:18:24 | 0:18:26 | |
I'll be directing somebody to the bathroom, I'll be answering | 0:18:26 | 0:18:31 | |
a question about a carving on a wall. | 0:18:31 | 0:18:33 | |
You've got kings and queens buried here, | 0:18:33 | 0:18:35 | |
you've got musicians and poets buried here. | 0:18:35 | 0:18:38 | |
The Abbey itself is just somewhere that captures | 0:18:38 | 0:18:42 | |
Britain through the years. | 0:18:42 | 0:18:43 | |
Edward is actually interred up here in a shrine. | 0:18:43 | 0:18:46 | |
His whole body in its entirety is within that shrine. | 0:18:46 | 0:18:49 | |
I wouldn't call it like a religious experience, so to speak, | 0:18:49 | 0:18:52 | |
but it's as close as you can get, I think. | 0:18:52 | 0:18:54 | |
Tourism is the Abbey's lifeblood, | 0:18:56 | 0:18:59 | |
and the most senior priest in charge of visitor welcome | 0:18:59 | 0:19:03 | |
is known as the Canon Steward. In 2005, | 0:19:03 | 0:19:05 | |
Jane Hedges became the first woman to be appointed to the role. | 0:19:05 | 0:19:10 | |
Obviously if you're lucky enough to be a Canon in Westminster Abbey, | 0:19:10 | 0:19:13 | |
I do wake every day and think this is a fantastic place to be. | 0:19:13 | 0:19:16 | |
And I suppose for me as well, that tremendous, extraordinary feeling | 0:19:16 | 0:19:20 | |
of, "Gosh, I'm the first woman to be here in this position. | 0:19:20 | 0:19:22 | |
"and it's a historic moment." | 0:19:22 | 0:19:24 | |
And when I was appointed there had been a feeling at that stage | 0:19:24 | 0:19:27 | |
that it would be good to have a woman canon here. | 0:19:27 | 0:19:30 | |
So although it is a very male place - and it is - | 0:19:30 | 0:19:33 | |
at a symbolic level it's really rather important | 0:19:33 | 0:19:36 | |
that there are men and women working together and to recognise that women | 0:19:36 | 0:19:39 | |
have got as many gifts as men | 0:19:39 | 0:19:41 | |
and therefore that they should be able to exercise them | 0:19:41 | 0:19:44 | |
at all levels of leadership within the Church of England. | 0:19:44 | 0:19:46 | |
Do follow me. | 0:19:46 | 0:19:48 | |
Canon Hedges' role is based on a tradition that was | 0:19:48 | 0:19:51 | |
established here in 960AD, when the Abbey was founded | 0:19:51 | 0:19:54 | |
as a community of monks who lived according to the rule | 0:19:54 | 0:19:57 | |
of the Italian saint, Benedict. | 0:19:57 | 0:19:59 | |
In 1540, Henry VIII dissolved the monastery here, | 0:19:59 | 0:20:04 | |
as was happening all over the country. | 0:20:04 | 0:20:07 | |
But interestingly, once the Abbey was re-established as it is today, | 0:20:07 | 0:20:10 | |
as a Collegiate church with a Dean and Chapter, some of the roles | 0:20:10 | 0:20:14 | |
that had been taken on within the Benedictine tradition were retained. | 0:20:14 | 0:20:18 | |
And it's the role of the Canon Steward today to make sure | 0:20:18 | 0:20:21 | |
that everybody receives Benedictine hospitality. | 0:20:21 | 0:20:24 | |
Benedict talked himself about receiving anybody that came | 0:20:24 | 0:20:27 | |
to the monastery as if it was Christ himself. | 0:20:27 | 0:20:31 | |
So we're just off to our volunteers' lunch which we hold annually, | 0:20:31 | 0:20:35 | |
because we're so lucky here, we've got around about 170 people | 0:20:35 | 0:20:40 | |
who help out in the Abbey and welcome our visitors. | 0:20:40 | 0:20:44 | |
And of course one of the really important things | 0:20:44 | 0:20:46 | |
about being a welcoming community | 0:20:46 | 0:20:48 | |
is that not only do we make sure people get a welcome | 0:20:48 | 0:20:50 | |
as they get to the Abbey but also as they're leaving. | 0:20:50 | 0:20:53 | |
That we make sure that they're happy and know where they're going next. | 0:20:53 | 0:20:57 | |
So this group of people are fantastic. | 0:20:57 | 0:21:00 | |
170 of them will be coming to lunch today and it's an opportunity to | 0:21:00 | 0:21:04 | |
say thank you to them for all that they offer to the life of the Abbey. | 0:21:04 | 0:21:07 | |
'There have been some very lovely things happening this year,' | 0:21:07 | 0:21:10 | |
apart from all the things to do with work, | 0:21:10 | 0:21:13 | |
and I'd like, on your behalf, | 0:21:13 | 0:21:15 | |
to offer congratulations to Steven, who got married a few weeks ago. | 0:21:15 | 0:21:19 | |
And that's really lovely. | 0:21:19 | 0:21:21 | |
But also, love is obviously in the air, | 0:21:25 | 0:21:27 | |
because Mollie got engaged. | 0:21:27 | 0:21:29 | |
One of the amazing things | 0:21:31 | 0:21:33 | |
at the Abbey - last year we had over 1.25 million people | 0:21:33 | 0:21:37 | |
paying to come in and go on a tour. | 0:21:37 | 0:21:40 | |
We had just a handful of letters of complaint. | 0:21:40 | 0:21:44 | |
And I think that's fantastic that we had so few, | 0:21:44 | 0:21:47 | |
when we're dealing with so many people. | 0:21:47 | 0:21:49 | |
That's largely down to the work you're doing, | 0:21:49 | 0:21:53 | |
alongside our wonderful Marshals and Vergers. | 0:21:53 | 0:21:56 | |
So on behalf of the Dean and Chapter I'd like to say | 0:21:56 | 0:21:59 | |
a very, very big thank you to all of you. | 0:21:59 | 0:22:01 | |
The Abbey is always looking for new ways to welcome their visitors, | 0:22:06 | 0:22:09 | |
and to keep up with the demands of modern tourism, | 0:22:09 | 0:22:12 | |
they embarked last year on their biggest building project | 0:22:12 | 0:22:16 | |
for 20 years. | 0:22:16 | 0:22:17 | |
The man in charge is the secular head of the Abbey, | 0:22:17 | 0:22:20 | |
and former private secretary to Prince Charles, Sir Stephen Lamport. | 0:22:20 | 0:22:24 | |
The Cellarium project is really important for us because | 0:22:24 | 0:22:27 | |
it's been important over the centuries | 0:22:27 | 0:22:29 | |
that Benedictine monasteries can look after their visitors properly. | 0:22:29 | 0:22:32 | |
At the moment they have a coffee shop in the North Cloister, | 0:22:32 | 0:22:35 | |
which is in the open air. | 0:22:35 | 0:22:37 | |
It's cold, it's draughty, it's wet when it's raining, | 0:22:37 | 0:22:41 | |
there's nowhere properly to sit, there's no running water. | 0:22:41 | 0:22:44 | |
We make do with that in terms of offering people refreshment. | 0:22:44 | 0:22:48 | |
This project enables us to do something much, much more than that, | 0:22:48 | 0:22:51 | |
which is much more in tune with our traditions. | 0:22:51 | 0:22:54 | |
What we're looking at at the moment is what is called the Cellarium, | 0:22:54 | 0:22:58 | |
which was the old monastic store for food and drink. | 0:22:58 | 0:23:01 | |
This will hold about probably 70 covers, | 0:23:01 | 0:23:05 | |
70 people will be able to sit here. | 0:23:05 | 0:23:07 | |
They'll have a chance to eat and drink. | 0:23:07 | 0:23:11 | |
Good quality, modestly-priced food is the objective. | 0:23:11 | 0:23:15 | |
We're going to go down through here now. | 0:23:15 | 0:23:18 | |
You see these great beams here? | 0:23:20 | 0:23:23 | |
This actually was originally a flat roof behind the Chapter office. | 0:23:23 | 0:23:28 | |
This is going to house a second part of the Cellarium, | 0:23:28 | 0:23:32 | |
probably to accommodate about 50 people. | 0:23:32 | 0:23:36 | |
This will give you views east over the Victoria Tower of Parliament | 0:23:36 | 0:23:39 | |
and wonderful views across to the West Towers, | 0:23:39 | 0:23:43 | |
the Hawksmoor Towers of the Abbey. So you'll have | 0:23:43 | 0:23:46 | |
this remarkable context in which to eat and to drink. | 0:23:46 | 0:23:50 | |
The plan is, that keeping up momentum - | 0:23:50 | 0:23:54 | |
the chaps are working extremely hard at this, | 0:23:54 | 0:23:56 | |
they're doing 12-hour shifts - we are hoping and planning | 0:23:56 | 0:23:59 | |
that this will be very much open in time for the Olympics. | 0:23:59 | 0:24:02 | |
The project is behind schedule because the builders | 0:24:03 | 0:24:06 | |
came across medieval archaeological finds which interrupted the works. | 0:24:06 | 0:24:11 | |
I was quite amazed by some of the findings. | 0:24:11 | 0:24:14 | |
In the Cellarium area they found an actual cold store. | 0:24:14 | 0:24:18 | |
A cellar we thought was a well, but it turns out | 0:24:18 | 0:24:20 | |
it was actually used for keeping meats and produce cold. | 0:24:20 | 0:24:24 | |
There was an old brick well in the floor | 0:24:24 | 0:24:27 | |
that no-one knew was there. | 0:24:27 | 0:24:29 | |
We had to do some exploratory work around the footings | 0:24:29 | 0:24:32 | |
and I was amazed to see oyster shells and fish bones there. | 0:24:32 | 0:24:37 | |
We thought someone had put them as a bit of a joke, | 0:24:37 | 0:24:40 | |
but it's actually in underneath there. | 0:24:40 | 0:24:43 | |
So in every shovelful, there's history. | 0:24:43 | 0:24:46 | |
As well as unforeseeable delays, | 0:24:46 | 0:24:48 | |
the builders have to work around the Abbey's routine | 0:24:48 | 0:24:51 | |
of daily services, and the great landmarks of the Christian calendar. | 0:24:51 | 0:24:55 | |
SINGING | 0:24:55 | 0:24:58 | |
Today is Pentecost, | 0:25:01 | 0:25:03 | |
50 days after Christ's resurrection on Easter Sunday. | 0:25:03 | 0:25:07 | |
It marks the moment when the Holy Spirit descended on St Peter | 0:25:07 | 0:25:11 | |
and the other Apostles, empowering them to spread the word of Christ. | 0:25:11 | 0:25:14 | |
Well, here we are, we see the Apostles, probably John, | 0:25:14 | 0:25:19 | |
I should think, in the middle and Peter there on his right. | 0:25:19 | 0:25:22 | |
And you can see the tongues of flame distributed on their heads. | 0:25:22 | 0:25:26 | |
And above, the Spirit as a dove coming down, and inspiring them. | 0:25:26 | 0:25:31 | |
And they went out and Peter preached confidently | 0:25:31 | 0:25:34 | |
to all the people who were gathered there | 0:25:34 | 0:25:37 | |
from all over the Jewish world, and gentiles as well in Jerusalem. | 0:25:37 | 0:25:42 | |
And that day 3,000 people were baptised. | 0:25:42 | 0:25:45 | |
So it's the beginning of the Church. | 0:25:45 | 0:25:46 | |
CHOIR SINGS | 0:25:46 | 0:25:49 | |
Pentecost has really caught the imagination of composers. | 0:25:49 | 0:25:53 | |
It's a very dramatic feast, its full of sort of a sense | 0:25:53 | 0:25:56 | |
of a surge of power, of God's power coming through the Church. | 0:25:56 | 0:26:00 | |
Through the world. | 0:26:00 | 0:26:02 | |
So the music can reflect that and pick up on those things. | 0:26:02 | 0:26:05 | |
For Pentecost, James O'Donnell has chosen a piece of music | 0:26:07 | 0:26:10 | |
that was written in Latin by an English composer, Thomas Tallis, | 0:26:10 | 0:26:14 | |
during the Reformation in the 16th century. | 0:26:14 | 0:26:17 | |
SINGING | 0:26:17 | 0:26:20 | |
The use of Latin liturgically was very much | 0:26:30 | 0:26:33 | |
a bone of contention at the Reformation. | 0:26:33 | 0:26:35 | |
Latin was seen to be a very distant language, | 0:26:35 | 0:26:38 | |
which made the words spoken only accessible | 0:26:38 | 0:26:41 | |
to those who were learned and had studied it. | 0:26:41 | 0:26:44 | |
It's only quite recently that places like Westminster Abbey | 0:26:50 | 0:26:53 | |
have been able to perform this sort of music, | 0:26:53 | 0:26:57 | |
because of its Latin text. | 0:26:57 | 0:26:59 | |
And the insistence that liturgical music in the Church of England | 0:26:59 | 0:27:02 | |
should be sung in English. | 0:27:02 | 0:27:04 | |
In fact a few years ago if you wanted to do this music, | 0:27:04 | 0:27:08 | |
you would have had to translate the text and sing it in English. | 0:27:08 | 0:27:12 | |
This new openness to using Latin in Anglican church music | 0:27:16 | 0:27:21 | |
is a sign of increasing dialogue with other faith traditions. | 0:27:21 | 0:27:25 | |
The greatest church in the world is St Peter's Basilica in Rome, | 0:27:25 | 0:27:31 | |
which is where St Peter himself is buried. | 0:27:31 | 0:27:33 | |
We'll be making a pilgrimage to the Shrine of St Peter, | 0:27:33 | 0:27:37 | |
just as the Pope made a pilgrimage from Rome to Westminster, | 0:27:37 | 0:27:41 | |
to the Shrine of St Edward. | 0:27:41 | 0:27:44 | |
So it will be, as it were, a return match, | 0:27:44 | 0:27:46 | |
and it will be a marvellous occasion for us. | 0:27:46 | 0:27:49 | |
We'll also be going to Monte Cassino, to the Shrine of St Benedict, | 0:27:49 | 0:27:52 | |
so it's very exciting. | 0:27:52 | 0:27:53 | |
We're just coming up to the last few days before we go to Rome, | 0:27:55 | 0:27:58 | |
and I'm just taking the time to revise | 0:27:58 | 0:28:01 | |
some of the rehearsal we did a few weeks ago, | 0:28:01 | 0:28:03 | |
both with the Sistine Chapel choir and also our own preparations. | 0:28:03 | 0:28:06 | |
And trying to just go back over | 0:28:06 | 0:28:08 | |
certain things that emerged in our rehearsal together. | 0:28:08 | 0:28:12 | |
And some of us were singing "tibi dabo claves" | 0:28:12 | 0:28:15 | |
in a rather English way. | 0:28:15 | 0:28:17 | |
-It's going to have to be... -ITALIAN ACCENT: -"tibi dabo claves". | 0:28:17 | 0:28:21 | |
And particularly "caelo". "Caeolorum", not "caeol-oh-rum". | 0:28:21 | 0:28:26 | |
Don't let the vowel be plummy. | 0:28:26 | 0:28:29 | |
We're actually going to sing several settings of the text Tu Es Petrus, | 0:28:29 | 0:28:32 | |
or Thou Art Peter, You Are Peter. | 0:28:32 | 0:28:34 | |
Which is a setting of the biblical passage where Jesus says to Peter, | 0:28:34 | 0:28:38 | |
"You are Peter and on this rock I will build my church." | 0:28:38 | 0:28:42 | |
OK. So you need to watch me. | 0:28:42 | 0:28:44 | |
# Tu es Petrus... # | 0:28:44 | 0:28:50 | |
There we are. That's just proved my point. And... | 0:28:50 | 0:28:53 | |
# Tu es Petrus... # | 0:28:53 | 0:29:01 | |
Then we wait another two. | 0:29:01 | 0:29:02 | |
'This is obviously an absolutely critical text' | 0:29:04 | 0:29:06 | |
for the papacy, | 0:29:06 | 0:29:08 | |
for the Feast of St Peter which we are going to be singing in Rome, | 0:29:08 | 0:29:12 | |
and even in the Abbey, | 0:29:12 | 0:29:14 | |
'we would have been singing | 0:29:14 | 0:29:16 | |
'a setting of Tu Es Petrus on that feast.' | 0:29:16 | 0:29:19 | |
-Then... -THEY SING | 0:29:19 | 0:29:22 | |
That's it. You just have to be sensitive | 0:29:32 | 0:29:35 | |
to how they want you to do that. | 0:29:35 | 0:29:37 | |
Taking part in high profile events | 0:29:37 | 0:29:38 | |
is the business of the Abbey. None have been more spectacular | 0:29:38 | 0:29:41 | |
than the marriage of Prince William to Catherine Middleton, | 0:29:41 | 0:29:45 | |
but moments like these are punctuated | 0:29:45 | 0:29:47 | |
by more private celebrations. | 0:29:47 | 0:29:49 | |
Martin's at the front of the procession, | 0:29:49 | 0:29:52 | |
the Dean, Piper, Carol and your father. | 0:29:52 | 0:29:55 | |
The man organising the trip to Rome, Jamie Hawkey, | 0:29:55 | 0:29:59 | |
has a big event of his own to arrange. | 0:29:59 | 0:30:01 | |
When he gets back, he'll be marrying his fiancee, Carol Ripley. | 0:30:01 | 0:30:06 | |
They'll be the first couple to take their vows at the High Altar | 0:30:06 | 0:30:09 | |
since the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge. | 0:30:09 | 0:30:11 | |
Turn your right hand over. | 0:30:11 | 0:30:13 | |
No, Carol's right. You're the priest, you should know this by now. | 0:30:13 | 0:30:16 | |
-THEY LAUGH -I just had a blank. | 0:30:16 | 0:30:18 | |
I think whoever's getting married, whether it's a Royal Wedding, | 0:30:18 | 0:30:22 | |
or a wedding like ours or a wedding at Gretna Green with two witnesses, | 0:30:22 | 0:30:27 | |
it's the same sacrament, the same utterly simple bond | 0:30:27 | 0:30:33 | |
of two people pledging, covenanting their life together. | 0:30:33 | 0:30:36 | |
Jamie, you lead Carol across. | 0:30:36 | 0:30:38 | |
Mm-hm. | 0:30:38 | 0:30:40 | |
-I take this hand. -That's perfect. | 0:30:40 | 0:30:41 | |
So much of what we do at the Abbey is really based on precedent. | 0:30:41 | 0:30:45 | |
And the precedent for Minor Canons | 0:30:45 | 0:30:47 | |
when they get married while they're here | 0:30:47 | 0:30:49 | |
is that they marry in the Abbey at the High Altar | 0:30:49 | 0:30:54 | |
'and it's just pretty extraordinary for us.' | 0:30:54 | 0:30:57 | |
At which point, a verger will come from that side... | 0:30:57 | 0:31:01 | |
He's really good at this. Multi-tasking. | 0:31:01 | 0:31:04 | |
-..with a patten. -Oh, yeah? -Yep. | 0:31:04 | 0:31:06 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:31:06 | 0:31:09 | |
Our wedding has involved so many members of the Abbey team | 0:31:09 | 0:31:12 | |
who are also friends. And so we sat down here with James O'Donnell | 0:31:12 | 0:31:16 | |
to talk about music, we sat down with my colleague Mike | 0:31:16 | 0:31:20 | |
to talk about how the service might work, | 0:31:20 | 0:31:22 | |
we sat down with the Dean for wedding prep, | 0:31:22 | 0:31:25 | |
'like any other couple going to a parish priest. | 0:31:25 | 0:31:27 | |
'My dad and I, and then my dad and Carol and my mum and I,' | 0:31:27 | 0:31:31 | |
went to France to get loads of the booze | 0:31:31 | 0:31:33 | |
some other friends then went to do a top-up run. | 0:31:33 | 0:31:35 | |
'So it's been a brick by brick building-up | 0:31:35 | 0:31:38 | |
'of what we hope is going to be a fantastic day for all our friends.' | 0:31:38 | 0:31:42 | |
We've done our best to cover all the bases | 0:31:42 | 0:31:45 | |
and we've got fantastic colleagues here who, you know, | 0:31:45 | 0:31:49 | |
if there's a problem on the day we can say, | 0:31:49 | 0:31:51 | |
"Do you think you can go and do that?" And they'll do it. | 0:31:51 | 0:31:54 | |
All right. Hugh could you...? | 0:31:54 | 0:31:55 | |
Make sure you put your name on it. Thank you. | 0:31:55 | 0:31:57 | |
The Abbey party leaves in the morning for Italy. | 0:31:57 | 0:32:00 | |
Their packed schedule includes the Papal Mass, | 0:32:00 | 0:32:03 | |
a recital in the Sistine Chapel and a pilgrimage to Monte Cassino, | 0:32:03 | 0:32:07 | |
the heart of the Benedictine Order. | 0:32:07 | 0:32:09 | |
I had seven in my case and now I've only got five. | 0:32:09 | 0:32:12 | |
Preparing the boys for the five-day tour | 0:32:12 | 0:32:14 | |
is the job of the choir school matron, Mair Hill. | 0:32:14 | 0:32:17 | |
I'm only missing one, Matron. | 0:32:17 | 0:32:19 | |
I've packed 19 suitcases. | 0:32:20 | 0:32:22 | |
The 20th is mine. I haven't done that one yet. | 0:32:24 | 0:32:28 | |
-I've got four pairs of socks. -You've only got four? | 0:32:28 | 0:32:31 | |
I bought some spare ones, so if you're stuck for any | 0:32:31 | 0:32:34 | |
let me know, I've got some spares. | 0:32:34 | 0:32:36 | |
I'm sure I'll be excited tomorrow morning. I'm a bit tired today. | 0:32:36 | 0:32:40 | |
But no, it'll be lovely, it'll be fabulous experience. | 0:32:40 | 0:32:42 | |
For the boys particularly, I think. | 0:32:42 | 0:32:44 | |
I'm looking forward to visiting Monte Cassino. | 0:32:44 | 0:32:47 | |
I remember when I was about their age | 0:32:47 | 0:32:50 | |
watching a programme about the siege of Monte Cassino, | 0:32:50 | 0:32:53 | |
and being quite fascinated by that, during the Second World War. | 0:32:53 | 0:32:57 | |
So it'll be nice to go and visit it and see how they've rebuilt it. | 0:32:57 | 0:33:01 | |
We've got here and it feels wonderful to be here, | 0:33:17 | 0:33:20 | |
even in this heat. | 0:33:20 | 0:33:21 | |
And we're just, as it were, on the cusp of the two big events - | 0:33:21 | 0:33:24 | |
the recital in the Sistine Chapel | 0:33:24 | 0:33:26 | |
and the Mass with the Pope tomorrow morning. | 0:33:26 | 0:33:29 | |
The recital is a way for the two choirs being able to sing in concert | 0:33:29 | 0:33:33 | |
for the Cardinal Secretary of State and members of the Roman Curia | 0:33:33 | 0:33:36 | |
as well as for the Papal Mass on the Friday morning. | 0:33:36 | 0:33:39 | |
So it's going to be wonderful to have a concert moment together | 0:33:39 | 0:33:42 | |
and a liturgical moment, | 0:33:42 | 0:33:43 | |
and the principal focus of this trip is the liturgical moment | 0:33:43 | 0:33:46 | |
because we're liturgical choirs, but it's going to be wonderful | 0:33:46 | 0:33:49 | |
to share some of our musical heritage together this evening. | 0:33:49 | 0:33:52 | |
It's taken five months' planning to reach the Vatican, | 0:33:52 | 0:33:56 | |
the heart of Roman Catholicism, | 0:33:56 | 0:33:58 | |
where the first Bishop of Rome, St Peter himself, is buried. | 0:33:58 | 0:34:01 | |
The two choirs are meeting to rehearse | 0:34:04 | 0:34:06 | |
in the magnificent St Peter's Basilica, | 0:34:06 | 0:34:08 | |
the largest Renaissance church in the world. | 0:34:08 | 0:34:11 | |
James O'Donnell and Monsignor Massimo Palombella | 0:34:13 | 0:34:17 | |
are sharing the conducting. | 0:34:17 | 0:34:20 | |
HE SPEAKS IN ITALIAN | 0:34:20 | 0:34:21 | |
THEY SING | 0:34:33 | 0:34:35 | |
THEY SING | 0:34:53 | 0:34:55 | |
I think that the rehearsal showed that we had already met. | 0:35:03 | 0:35:07 | |
I mean, I certainly felt there were very few teething problems. | 0:35:07 | 0:35:11 | |
When you know what to expect | 0:35:11 | 0:35:13 | |
and when you are right there in the place where it's going to be, | 0:35:13 | 0:35:16 | |
the rehearsal takes a different life on | 0:35:16 | 0:35:19 | |
and a different kind of intensity. | 0:35:19 | 0:35:21 | |
So I think it felt as if things work on the way to having | 0:35:21 | 0:35:23 | |
finishing touches put to them, | 0:35:23 | 0:35:24 | |
but you don't want to do that until the actual service. | 0:35:24 | 0:35:27 | |
There needs to be a feeling that we haven't yet done it | 0:35:27 | 0:35:29 | |
and I think the sense of occasion when the congregation is there | 0:35:29 | 0:35:32 | |
and the Pope comes in, it'll be amazing. | 0:35:32 | 0:35:34 | |
CHOIR SINGS | 0:35:35 | 0:35:37 | |
It was great. | 0:35:44 | 0:35:45 | |
We had to wait a while to get moved around into our new places. | 0:35:45 | 0:35:50 | |
But it went really well and the rehearsing the music was really good. | 0:35:51 | 0:35:56 | |
It's very hot. | 0:35:57 | 0:35:59 | |
It's all going well. Rehearsal going well. | 0:35:59 | 0:36:01 | |
We're just having a tour of the Vatican Museum. | 0:36:01 | 0:36:03 | |
It's great. Hot. Very hot. | 0:36:04 | 0:36:07 | |
I love this weather. No, it's absolutely marvellous. | 0:36:08 | 0:36:11 | |
It's a little warm for the boys, but we're getting used to it. | 0:36:11 | 0:36:14 | |
One of the ancient titles of the Bishop of Rome is Pontifex Maximus, | 0:36:14 | 0:36:18 | |
pontifex being a bridge. And there's no doubt this experience | 0:36:18 | 0:36:22 | |
is a bridge between two cultures, between two churches. | 0:36:22 | 0:36:26 | |
And so tomorrow, when both choirs are singing at the Papal Mass, | 0:36:26 | 0:36:29 | |
there'll be a sense in which communion is not only deepened, | 0:36:29 | 0:36:32 | |
but on one level where communion is already achieved | 0:36:32 | 0:36:36 | |
because of that common worship, | 0:36:36 | 0:36:38 | |
a common entering into the depth of the life of God. | 0:36:38 | 0:36:41 | |
Father Jamie has had the lion's share of work on this tour | 0:36:41 | 0:36:44 | |
and has done a phenomenal job at organising today's rehearsal | 0:36:44 | 0:36:48 | |
in the Basilica, St Peter's itself. | 0:36:48 | 0:36:50 | |
Amazing, seeing their preparations for tomorrow's Papal Mass. | 0:36:50 | 0:36:55 | |
To be so close to the Shrine of St Peter, | 0:36:55 | 0:36:59 | |
whom everyone agrees is the father of the Church | 0:36:59 | 0:37:04 | |
and who's our patron saint at the Abbey, | 0:37:04 | 0:37:08 | |
it really is an honour to be here. | 0:37:08 | 0:37:11 | |
Now we're just about to re-group | 0:37:14 | 0:37:17 | |
and go into the Sistine Chapel this afternoon for a rehearsal. | 0:37:17 | 0:37:20 | |
This morning's positions, as close as we can get. | 0:37:20 | 0:37:23 | |
'We're giving a very private recital. | 0:37:23 | 0:37:24 | |
'The Secretary of State to the Vatican - | 0:37:24 | 0:37:26 | |
'who's the Pope's number two - will be here | 0:37:26 | 0:37:29 | |
'and some of the Papal household | 0:37:29 | 0:37:30 | |
'and some of the Abbey's delegation as well.' | 0:37:30 | 0:37:33 | |
It'll be a private thing | 0:37:33 | 0:37:35 | |
but we want it to be a memorable and a good musical experience. | 0:37:35 | 0:37:39 | |
THEY SING | 0:37:44 | 0:37:46 | |
The two choirs are rehearsing in the Pope's private chapel | 0:37:54 | 0:37:57 | |
surrounded by some of the most beautiful frescoes in Western art | 0:37:57 | 0:38:01 | |
painted between 1508 and 1512 by the great Michelangelo. | 0:38:01 | 0:38:06 | |
We've just been rehearsing in the Sistine Chapel. | 0:38:14 | 0:38:18 | |
It's meant to be informal, but it's not that informal. | 0:38:18 | 0:38:21 | |
And, well, it's amazing! | 0:38:23 | 0:38:25 | |
Glorious sound that they're making, the Sistina. | 0:38:25 | 0:38:27 | |
I'm loving it. Exciting and raw and gutsy. | 0:38:27 | 0:38:30 | |
CHOIR SINGS | 0:38:30 | 0:38:32 | |
It was marvellous. It was a bit like a dream. | 0:39:13 | 0:39:16 | |
I had to pinch myself a few times | 0:39:16 | 0:39:18 | |
and think, "This is actually the Sistine Chapel we're singing in." | 0:39:18 | 0:39:22 | |
It's amazing how we can merge the two sounds | 0:39:30 | 0:39:33 | |
and make one beautiful sound. | 0:39:33 | 0:39:36 | |
Singing with them is a really good feeling. | 0:39:36 | 0:39:37 | |
Especially in this beautiful place. | 0:39:37 | 0:39:39 | |
It's much louder and you don't need to sing loud here. | 0:39:39 | 0:39:43 | |
You just need to sing normally and it comes out massive. | 0:39:43 | 0:39:49 | |
THEY SING | 0:39:49 | 0:39:51 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:40:14 | 0:40:16 | |
It's amazing. Amazing to hear the two choirs combined. | 0:40:24 | 0:40:28 | |
And to see them sing together was really good, really good. | 0:40:28 | 0:40:32 | |
It looks like a sheet with a face on it. | 0:40:32 | 0:40:35 | |
And that's Michelangelo. That's him. | 0:40:35 | 0:40:37 | |
It's amazing thinking about Michelangelo | 0:40:37 | 0:40:40 | |
lying on his back on scaffolding to paint this | 0:40:40 | 0:40:42 | |
in just a couple of years. | 0:40:42 | 0:40:44 | |
They are tired, the heat is getting to them. | 0:40:46 | 0:40:49 | |
It's getting to all of us. | 0:40:49 | 0:40:50 | |
But they just turn it on, really, don't they? | 0:40:50 | 0:40:54 | |
They're just great. Yeah, I was very impressed. | 0:40:54 | 0:40:57 | |
Tomorrow's going to be one of the best days. | 0:40:57 | 0:40:59 | |
The most tiring day. I think we'll get up at 5.30. | 0:40:59 | 0:41:01 | |
The feast day of St Peter and St Paul | 0:41:15 | 0:41:17 | |
is the high point of the Vatican's year | 0:41:17 | 0:41:19 | |
and thousands are queuing for the Mass. | 0:41:19 | 0:41:21 | |
It will be celebrated by | 0:41:24 | 0:41:25 | |
the successor of St Peter, Pope Benedict. | 0:41:25 | 0:41:28 | |
After all these centuries, | 0:41:31 | 0:41:33 | |
to bring a choir such as that of Westminster Abbey - | 0:41:33 | 0:41:37 | |
which in a way epitomises the Church of England | 0:41:37 | 0:41:41 | |
and its role in English society, its independence - | 0:41:41 | 0:41:44 | |
to bring that choir and that community here to Rome | 0:41:44 | 0:41:48 | |
is an immense sign of how far we've come | 0:41:48 | 0:41:52 | |
after all the divisions and centuries that we've been apart. | 0:41:52 | 0:41:56 | |
It's remarkable that in the last decades | 0:41:56 | 0:41:59 | |
we've drawn so close together that we're now able to make | 0:41:59 | 0:42:02 | |
this gesture of friendship and recognition of each other | 0:42:02 | 0:42:05 | |
and this invitation is extended | 0:42:05 | 0:42:07 | |
towards the choir and clergy of Westminster Abbey | 0:42:07 | 0:42:10 | |
as a sign of recognition of our common baptism, | 0:42:10 | 0:42:14 | |
how much we have in common | 0:42:14 | 0:42:15 | |
and that we have much more in common than what divides us. | 0:42:15 | 0:42:19 | |
THEY SING | 0:42:20 | 0:42:23 | |
But today of all days, the feast of St Peter and St Paul, | 0:42:31 | 0:42:35 | |
is the feast day of Rome, St Peter and St Paul, | 0:42:35 | 0:42:39 | |
the great saints on whose leadership the papacy is founded | 0:42:39 | 0:42:43 | |
and so to invite a choir and a group of clergy | 0:42:43 | 0:42:47 | |
from a non-Catholic establishment on such a day as this, | 0:42:47 | 0:42:52 | |
to Rome to the Pope's Basilica, for his Mass, | 0:42:52 | 0:42:55 | |
is an immensely significant gesture. | 0:42:55 | 0:42:57 | |
THEY SING | 0:42:57 | 0:42:59 | |
Pax domini sit semper vobiscum. | 0:43:12 | 0:43:17 | |
-CONGREGATION: -Et cum spiritu tuo. | 0:43:18 | 0:43:22 | |
Offerte vobis pacem. | 0:43:23 | 0:43:25 | |
CHOIR SINGS | 0:43:27 | 0:43:29 | |
At the heart of this two-and-a-half hour service is Holy Communion, | 0:43:41 | 0:43:45 | |
the receiving of bread and wine, | 0:43:45 | 0:43:46 | |
which Catholics believe to be the body and blood of Christ. | 0:43:46 | 0:43:49 | |
For the Abbey, this is a painful moment. | 0:43:51 | 0:43:53 | |
Non-Catholics are excluded from receiving communion | 0:43:53 | 0:43:57 | |
because of historic, theological divisions. | 0:43:57 | 0:44:00 | |
THEY SING | 0:44:00 | 0:44:02 | |
But this remarkable, historic service | 0:44:07 | 0:44:09 | |
culminates in Pope Benedict warmly greeting the Dean | 0:44:09 | 0:44:13 | |
together with James O'Donnell and the choir. | 0:44:13 | 0:44:15 | |
Boys, all right, make your way in now, please. | 0:44:33 | 0:44:36 | |
Thank you very much. | 0:44:36 | 0:44:38 | |
It went well. Mostly. | 0:44:45 | 0:44:47 | |
Entirely, actually. | 0:44:47 | 0:44:49 | |
No, it was great to see the Pope. | 0:44:49 | 0:44:51 | |
It was really hot. | 0:44:51 | 0:44:53 | |
I don't think I'll ever go to somewhere like it again. | 0:44:53 | 0:44:55 | |
The acoustic in that building is amazing, | 0:44:55 | 0:44:57 | |
but with all the people in there | 0:44:57 | 0:44:58 | |
it was quite difficult to hear yourself. | 0:44:58 | 0:45:00 | |
It was amazing but absolutely boiling. | 0:45:00 | 0:45:03 | |
Best buy ever. £4. | 0:45:03 | 0:45:06 | |
Oh, I can't really express it. It was... It was fantastic. | 0:45:06 | 0:45:11 | |
It was a sort of incredibly big, theatrical event, | 0:45:11 | 0:45:16 | |
slightly chaotic in times, | 0:45:16 | 0:45:19 | |
cos it just, in times, cos there's so many people and so much to do. | 0:45:19 | 0:45:23 | |
But, actually, really, it's a fantastic, | 0:45:23 | 0:45:27 | |
um...thing to be involved in. | 0:45:27 | 0:45:29 | |
I'm just, I'm rather reeling from it. | 0:45:29 | 0:45:32 | |
It was a powerful moment for me. Deeply moving. | 0:45:56 | 0:46:01 | |
I felt, during Communion, the pain of our separation. | 0:46:01 | 0:46:07 | |
Not being able to receive communion. | 0:46:07 | 0:46:10 | |
I think the pain of that we can offer as a small gift | 0:46:10 | 0:46:17 | |
towards the hope of reconciliation, | 0:46:17 | 0:46:21 | |
full communion between us in God's good time. | 0:46:21 | 0:46:25 | |
The news of this historic meeting is being tweeted around the globe | 0:46:25 | 0:46:29 | |
by the Abbey's own press team. | 0:46:29 | 0:46:32 | |
We've been sending out regular tweets | 0:46:32 | 0:46:34 | |
because we've had all sorts of lovely kind of access | 0:46:34 | 0:46:37 | |
to the Vatican behind the scenes | 0:46:37 | 0:46:38 | |
and we just thought it would be very interesting for everyone to see | 0:46:38 | 0:46:41 | |
that unofficial side of the visit. | 0:46:41 | 0:46:43 | |
So, yeah, we've been on our mobile phones constantly | 0:46:43 | 0:46:46 | |
taking pictures and posting them | 0:46:46 | 0:46:48 | |
and hoping that that's OK with everyone in the Vatican. | 0:46:48 | 0:46:51 | |
SHE CHUCKLES | 0:46:51 | 0:46:52 | |
It seems to be, so... And it's gone down really well. | 0:46:52 | 0:46:55 | |
Everyone seems to be following it. | 0:46:55 | 0:46:57 | |
Particularly, all our followers in North America | 0:46:57 | 0:46:59 | |
seem to be enjoying getting those posts. | 0:46:59 | 0:47:02 | |
After an exhausting three days in Rome, | 0:47:08 | 0:47:11 | |
the Abbey is leaving the heat and bustle of the city | 0:47:11 | 0:47:14 | |
to embark on the last leg of their Italian tour. | 0:47:14 | 0:47:17 | |
They've been invited to the Abbey of Monte Cassino, | 0:47:19 | 0:47:22 | |
the burial place of St Benedict, | 0:47:22 | 0:47:24 | |
whose order founded Westminster Abbey. | 0:47:24 | 0:47:26 | |
'The historic Monastery of Monte Cassino was the...' | 0:47:30 | 0:47:32 | |
It has an added poignancy for the British group, | 0:47:32 | 0:47:35 | |
because, during the Second World War, | 0:47:35 | 0:47:37 | |
the monastery was occupied by the German Army | 0:47:37 | 0:47:40 | |
and, after a long stalemate, in 1944, | 0:47:40 | 0:47:43 | |
the Allies destroyed the building. | 0:47:43 | 0:47:45 | |
'The rain of high explosives | 0:47:51 | 0:47:52 | |
'completes the destruction of the Monastery of Monte Cassino.' | 0:47:52 | 0:47:56 | |
After the war, | 0:48:05 | 0:48:07 | |
the Monastery was completely rebuilt by the Italian government | 0:48:07 | 0:48:10 | |
and today, a community of 17 Benedictine monks live here. | 0:48:10 | 0:48:14 | |
Benedict founded this order of monks in 529AD | 0:48:57 | 0:49:01 | |
and this is the first time in the Monastery's history | 0:49:01 | 0:49:04 | |
that their hospitality has extended to women and children, | 0:49:04 | 0:49:08 | |
so they've set up new quarters especially for them. | 0:49:08 | 0:49:11 | |
Welcome, this is your room. | 0:49:13 | 0:49:15 | |
Hugh, Joshua, come and look at the view. | 0:49:21 | 0:49:25 | |
This teddy's name's Edward. | 0:49:30 | 0:49:31 | |
I would normally take my other dog, called Doggy, | 0:49:31 | 0:49:34 | |
but I thought he might get left behind or I might lose him, | 0:49:34 | 0:49:39 | |
so I thought I'd bring him instead. | 0:49:39 | 0:49:42 | |
The men in the Abbey's contingent | 0:49:43 | 0:49:45 | |
are staying in the monks' closed quarters, | 0:49:45 | 0:49:47 | |
an area not open to women or children. | 0:49:47 | 0:49:50 | |
Magnifico, magnifico. Si. | 0:49:50 | 0:49:53 | |
Translation would be helpful, chaps. | 0:49:53 | 0:49:55 | |
-It's in the style of Grimaldi. It's a fusion of architects. -Ah, OK. | 0:49:55 | 0:49:59 | |
Is this built in the same style as the previous monastery? | 0:49:59 | 0:50:01 | |
Yeah, it's a complete copy. | 0:50:01 | 0:50:03 | |
-Complete copy of the previous monastery? -Yeah, yeah. | 0:50:03 | 0:50:05 | |
-Hi! -Hey. This is fantastic. Wow, really amazing! | 0:50:10 | 0:50:14 | |
You got a bigger room than me. | 0:50:14 | 0:50:16 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:50:16 | 0:50:18 | |
It's an accident. | 0:50:18 | 0:50:19 | |
You can have a proper party here. | 0:50:19 | 0:50:21 | |
It's extraordinary. How many...? One, two, three, four... | 0:50:21 | 0:50:24 | |
Yeah, easily, a drinks party for 12 in here. | 0:50:24 | 0:50:26 | |
Easily. Drinks are on you tonight. | 0:50:26 | 0:50:28 | |
I was expecting a kind of white cell. | 0:50:28 | 0:50:31 | |
-You know, that's kind of what you think of the cloister rooms. -Yeah. | 0:50:31 | 0:50:34 | |
But I think that lots of people get confused | 0:50:34 | 0:50:36 | |
and think that Benedictines are like Franciscans. | 0:50:36 | 0:50:38 | |
-They're not. The Benedictines don't take a vow of poverty at all. -No. | 0:50:38 | 0:50:41 | |
You know, they don't own anything themselves personally | 0:50:41 | 0:50:43 | |
but, whereas Franciscans want, you know, that very, very simple life, | 0:50:43 | 0:50:47 | |
for Benedictines, the vows are different. | 0:50:47 | 0:50:49 | |
They're far more ancient - | 0:50:49 | 0:50:51 | |
the vows of stability, conversion of life, you know? | 0:50:51 | 0:50:54 | |
I've never been to Monte Cassino before... | 0:50:57 | 0:50:59 | |
I've heard about it because of the battle and everything else, | 0:50:59 | 0:51:02 | |
but it's extraordinary to be here. | 0:51:02 | 0:51:04 | |
Not least of all to realise that this is all rebuilt after the war, | 0:51:04 | 0:51:08 | |
after terrible bomb damage to it. | 0:51:08 | 0:51:10 | |
And, I understand, all built by the State of Italy | 0:51:10 | 0:51:13 | |
and maintained by the State of Italy. | 0:51:13 | 0:51:15 | |
But it is the most extraordinary place. It's vast. | 0:51:15 | 0:51:18 | |
And it is such a fabulous setting. I mean, high up on this hill, | 0:51:18 | 0:51:22 | |
you can see why there was a war for here. | 0:51:22 | 0:51:24 | |
You can see, if you had big guns up here, | 0:51:24 | 0:51:26 | |
you would command the whole of the valley up to Rome. | 0:51:26 | 0:51:29 | |
Having now, all the time that I've been at the Abbey, | 0:51:29 | 0:51:31 | |
been more conscious of the Benedictine tradition | 0:51:31 | 0:51:34 | |
than I ever was before, | 0:51:34 | 0:51:35 | |
that means a lot to me | 0:51:35 | 0:51:37 | |
and to realise this is very much the heart of that whole tradition, | 0:51:37 | 0:51:41 | |
which I think is one of the most attractive parts | 0:51:41 | 0:51:44 | |
of the Roman Catholic whole setup. | 0:51:44 | 0:51:46 | |
I mean, the Rule of St Benedict was very wise, | 0:51:46 | 0:51:49 | |
was very balanced, was very sensible. | 0:51:49 | 0:51:52 | |
It led to very remarkable communities | 0:51:52 | 0:51:54 | |
that, in themselves, did some very, very good things. | 0:51:54 | 0:51:57 | |
And the quality of the rebuilding is amazing. | 0:51:57 | 0:52:00 | |
So full marks to the State of Italy, I think. | 0:52:00 | 0:52:03 | |
Even though they beat us at football. | 0:52:03 | 0:52:05 | |
HE CHUCKLES | 0:52:05 | 0:52:06 | |
There's something incredibly calming | 0:52:08 | 0:52:11 | |
about being in a Benedictine monastery. | 0:52:11 | 0:52:13 | |
I mean, the word written on the top of the door is PAX, peace in Latin. | 0:52:13 | 0:52:19 | |
And that kind of sums up this place. | 0:52:19 | 0:52:22 | |
So, it's a wonderfully decompressing thing to do. | 0:52:22 | 0:52:26 | |
And also, we're singing services with a Benedictine community | 0:52:26 | 0:52:31 | |
and because we're at Westminster Abbey, | 0:52:31 | 0:52:33 | |
there's something that feels right about that for us. | 0:52:33 | 0:52:36 | |
As a choir of a place which was once a Benedictine house. | 0:52:36 | 0:52:40 | |
So it's a wonderful final stage. | 0:52:40 | 0:52:43 | |
THEY SING | 0:52:43 | 0:52:47 | |
The boys have been wonderful. I mean, you know... | 0:52:56 | 0:52:58 | |
I take my hat off to them. | 0:52:58 | 0:53:00 | |
It's my job to give them quite a hard time, be quite demanding. | 0:53:00 | 0:53:03 | |
And I am, but I really, | 0:53:03 | 0:53:06 | |
I do have enormous respect for what they've done. | 0:53:06 | 0:53:09 | |
They've sung as well as they possibly could every occasion | 0:53:09 | 0:53:13 | |
and their deportment and their conduct, | 0:53:13 | 0:53:15 | |
and their ambassadorial representation of the Abbey | 0:53:15 | 0:53:19 | |
and what it stands for, | 0:53:19 | 0:53:20 | |
and the choir and what that stands for, has been really good. | 0:53:20 | 0:53:25 | |
And I will choose the right moment to make that completely good. | 0:53:25 | 0:53:29 | |
It's St Benedict who unites us. | 0:53:32 | 0:53:35 | |
I spoke to the Prior at lunch | 0:53:35 | 0:53:38 | |
'about the extraordinary feeling. | 0:53:38 | 0:53:40 | |
'And he said it is the grand "cuore di Benedetto" - | 0:53:40 | 0:53:45 | |
'the great heart of St Benedict who draws us together.' | 0:53:45 | 0:53:49 | |
HE SINGS | 0:53:49 | 0:53:53 | |
'The Rome and the Monte Cassino experience together' | 0:53:55 | 0:53:58 | |
will be for ever memorable. | 0:53:58 | 0:54:01 | |
But I believe they won't simply stand there. | 0:54:01 | 0:54:04 | |
They stand within | 0:54:04 | 0:54:05 | |
'a stream of relationship, | 0:54:05 | 0:54:07 | |
'of developing relationship, | 0:54:07 | 0:54:09 | |
'between the Roman Catholic Church and the Church of England | 0:54:09 | 0:54:12 | |
'and the Anglican communion more widely.' | 0:54:12 | 0:54:14 | |
But what is going on here | 0:54:14 | 0:54:16 | |
is profound friendship, mutual exchange, | 0:54:16 | 0:54:20 | |
and, out of that context, will eventually grow a reconciliation. | 0:54:20 | 0:54:28 | |
In London, it's the end of the summer holidays | 0:54:43 | 0:54:45 | |
and at Westminster Abbey, there's a very special event taking place. | 0:54:45 | 0:54:49 | |
The community is preparing for the wedding of one its own - | 0:54:53 | 0:54:56 | |
Minor Canon Jamie Hawkey to his fiance Carol Ripley. | 0:54:56 | 0:55:00 | |
Weddings at the High Altar are extremely rare, | 0:55:02 | 0:55:04 | |
confined to royalty and the Abbey community. | 0:55:04 | 0:55:07 | |
Yeah, last shave. A bit like the last rites. | 0:55:10 | 0:55:12 | |
HE LAUGHS | 0:55:12 | 0:55:13 | |
But not with such a fatal outcome. | 0:55:13 | 0:55:16 | |
When you think of what the girls go through, | 0:55:16 | 0:55:19 | |
this is virtually nothing. | 0:55:19 | 0:55:21 | |
I think he's had quite a busy morning, | 0:55:21 | 0:55:23 | |
cos there's been quite a few last minute things | 0:55:23 | 0:55:25 | |
he's had to sort out. But I imagine he's fine. | 0:55:25 | 0:55:27 | |
He'll be absolutely fine. He's a pro. | 0:55:27 | 0:55:30 | |
SHE LAUGHS | 0:55:30 | 0:55:32 | |
He does services all the time. | 0:55:32 | 0:55:34 | |
SHE LAUGHS | 0:55:34 | 0:55:35 | |
It does feel quite bizarre being on the other side. | 0:55:35 | 0:55:37 | |
But it's kind of good for a priest | 0:55:37 | 0:55:39 | |
to have that discipline, actually, you know? | 0:55:39 | 0:55:41 | |
For us to remember what it's like for other people. | 0:55:41 | 0:55:45 | |
I spent quite a lot of time trying to get the creases out of my dress. | 0:55:45 | 0:55:48 | |
Um, and out of the veil, just sort of trying to steam it. | 0:55:48 | 0:55:53 | |
We borrowed a steamer from the Abbey, which was helpful. | 0:55:53 | 0:55:56 | |
Looking forward to having a little glass of champagne | 0:55:56 | 0:55:58 | |
before we head off. | 0:55:58 | 0:56:00 | |
Unlike a lot of men, I actually quite like wearing a tie | 0:56:00 | 0:56:03 | |
and I sort of miss wearing a tie for formal things, actually. | 0:56:03 | 0:56:06 | |
So I thought, "Do you know what? On my wedding day, | 0:56:06 | 0:56:09 | |
"I'm just going to wear an ordinary morning dress, a morning coat." | 0:56:09 | 0:56:13 | |
I'm really looking forward to getting there now. | 0:56:13 | 0:56:15 | |
The butterflies are slightly swirling round my tummy. | 0:56:15 | 0:56:18 | |
BAGPIPES PLAY | 0:56:21 | 0:56:23 | |
'When we first talked about it, I did feel quite intimidated | 0:56:27 | 0:56:32 | |
'but when the Abbey did the trip to Rome, | 0:56:32 | 0:56:35 | |
'I went with Jamie and the rest of the choir | 0:56:35 | 0:56:39 | |
'and the community that went out. | 0:56:39 | 0:56:41 | |
'And so, that was great to get to know them even better. | 0:56:41 | 0:56:44 | |
'So, actually, I'm really looking forward to it. | 0:56:44 | 0:56:48 | |
'It's such a glorious place. | 0:56:48 | 0:56:51 | |
'And it's normally confined to royalty, | 0:56:51 | 0:56:54 | |
'so we're very, very honoured to be getting married at the High Altar.' | 0:56:54 | 0:56:58 | |
The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God | 0:57:02 | 0:57:07 | |
and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with you. | 0:57:07 | 0:57:10 | |
ALL: And also with you. | 0:57:10 | 0:57:12 | |
It's wonderful to hear the skirl of the pipes | 0:57:12 | 0:57:15 | |
here in Westminster Abbey, | 0:57:15 | 0:57:16 | |
and it's glorious to be here on this happy and joyful day | 0:57:16 | 0:57:21 | |
for the wedding of Carol and Jamie. | 0:57:21 | 0:57:23 | |
'The Abbey community is an ever-expanding community. | 0:57:25 | 0:57:28 | |
'Those of us who work here know that we just come to play our part here | 0:57:28 | 0:57:31 | |
'for a very short space of time, we dip our toes in, | 0:57:31 | 0:57:34 | |
'we're fully immersed in it, and then, we leave again. | 0:57:34 | 0:57:36 | |
'But today, the Abbey has gained | 0:57:36 | 0:57:38 | |
'another member of that community in Carol.' | 0:57:38 | 0:57:41 | |
'I've been experiencing that slightly on the fringes. | 0:57:41 | 0:57:43 | |
'But to be here now, | 0:57:43 | 0:57:45 | |
'as a legitimate part of the team, is wonderful.' | 0:57:45 | 0:57:48 | |
Over the coming months, the cycle of life at the Abbey continues. | 0:57:54 | 0:57:58 | |
ALL: One! | 0:57:58 | 0:58:00 | |
You tend to forget, from year to year, just how little they are. | 0:58:00 | 0:58:04 | |
I've never slept at school before, so I'm a bit scared. | 0:58:04 | 0:58:07 | |
Christmas is obviously a beautiful and wonderful season | 0:58:07 | 0:58:09 | |
and, for us, the birth of our Lord Jesus Christ is wonderful | 0:58:09 | 0:58:12 | |
and we have to prepare for it. | 0:58:12 | 0:58:14 | |
THEY SING | 0:58:14 | 0:58:17 | |
I like carols cos they're all cheery | 0:58:17 | 0:58:21 | |
and it means Christmas is soon! | 0:58:21 | 0:58:24 | |
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