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This programme contains some strong language. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:04 | |
Earlier this year, three footballers from Leicester City | 0:00:04 | 0:00:07 | |
filmed themselves in an orgy while on tour with the club. | 0:00:07 | 0:00:09 | |
The video caused outrage, | 0:00:16 | 0:00:17 | |
as the players sexually humiliated the women involved. | 0:00:17 | 0:00:21 | |
Come on, lick it now! | 0:00:26 | 0:00:28 | |
But stories like this are nothing new in the world of football. | 0:00:28 | 0:00:33 | |
Football sex scandals are hitting headlines | 0:00:33 | 0:00:36 | |
and it's their actions off the pitch that are making the front pages, | 0:00:36 | 0:00:39 | |
from orgies to underage sex to rape. | 0:00:39 | 0:00:43 | |
I want to find out if football culture | 0:00:43 | 0:00:45 | |
of promiscuous sex and predatory behaviour | 0:00:45 | 0:00:48 | |
is breeding a worrying attitude towards young women. | 0:00:48 | 0:00:51 | |
They will pick out girls and be like, | 0:00:51 | 0:00:53 | |
"I want that one, that one and that one on my table." | 0:00:53 | 0:00:55 | |
Or are the women just as much to blame? | 0:00:55 | 0:00:58 | |
A lot of WAGs knew what they were marrying into. | 0:00:58 | 0:01:00 | |
They get all the goods in return. | 0:01:00 | 0:01:03 | |
That is a form of prostitution. | 0:01:03 | 0:01:05 | |
And has the spotlight on footballers' personal lives gone too far? | 0:01:05 | 0:01:09 | |
If you can keep it out of the newspapers, that's fantastic. | 0:01:09 | 0:01:11 | |
You don't really want it hitting the headlines. | 0:01:11 | 0:01:14 | |
And it also uncovers some personal experiences I wasn't expecting. | 0:01:14 | 0:01:17 | |
What are you scared of? | 0:01:17 | 0:01:19 | |
I look at my mum, I look at women who have married footballers, | 0:01:19 | 0:01:23 | |
I don't know how you trust. I don't know. | 0:01:23 | 0:01:26 | |
My name's Amal Fashanu | 0:01:34 | 0:01:36 | |
and I grew up in the footballing spotlight. | 0:01:36 | 0:01:38 | |
I'm making this film because I'm the daughter of a football player | 0:01:38 | 0:01:42 | |
and I'm the niece of a footballer and a cousin of a footballer | 0:01:42 | 0:01:46 | |
so football seems to be in my life quite a lot. | 0:01:46 | 0:01:49 | |
Sex scandals in football seem as frequent as goals | 0:01:49 | 0:01:52 | |
and I partly blame this culture for the divorce of my parents. | 0:01:52 | 0:01:56 | |
Their relationship ended when I was two years old, after my mum | 0:01:57 | 0:02:00 | |
found out that my dad, John Fashanu, was having an affair. | 0:02:00 | 0:02:03 | |
We've seen a host of high-profile footballers | 0:02:05 | 0:02:07 | |
involved in controversial stories, | 0:02:07 | 0:02:09 | |
from Ryan Giggs' affair with his brother's wife, | 0:02:09 | 0:02:12 | |
to Ched Evans jailed for rape. | 0:02:12 | 0:02:14 | |
Football has been painted as a dark and seedy world. | 0:02:14 | 0:02:18 | |
It always seems to be lately that footballers are there | 0:02:18 | 0:02:22 | |
in the press for women and sex. | 0:02:22 | 0:02:25 | |
Are we to blame footballers? Are we to blame society? | 0:02:25 | 0:02:29 | |
Are we to blame the people that pay footballers this amount of money? | 0:02:29 | 0:02:33 | |
With the Premier elite earning up to £300,000 a week, | 0:02:36 | 0:02:41 | |
players have overnight access to money, fame | 0:02:41 | 0:02:44 | |
and an exclusive nightlife where they are the centre of attention. | 0:02:44 | 0:02:48 | |
So what really goes on after dark? | 0:02:48 | 0:02:50 | |
I head to one of London's most popular clubs for footballers. | 0:02:50 | 0:02:56 | |
MUSIC: Earthquake by DJ Fresh | 0:02:56 | 0:03:00 | |
In the club, I meet up with Danielle Mason, | 0:03:06 | 0:03:08 | |
who has first-hand experience with footballers after dark. | 0:03:08 | 0:03:12 | |
She worked as a promoter for many years | 0:03:13 | 0:03:15 | |
and has insider knowledge into this exclusive world. | 0:03:15 | 0:03:19 | |
-Oh, how are you? -Very nice. Wow. | 0:03:19 | 0:03:22 | |
Can you just explain to me | 0:03:22 | 0:03:24 | |
basically what your job has been for the past few years? | 0:03:24 | 0:03:27 | |
So when I was 21, I started, erm, glamour modelling | 0:03:27 | 0:03:32 | |
and then, with that, I was obviously always out | 0:03:32 | 0:03:35 | |
at, you know, like, your Chinawhites | 0:03:35 | 0:03:37 | |
and all your different clubs in the West End. | 0:03:37 | 0:03:41 | |
I'd bring a lot of good-looking girls with me to the tables, | 0:03:41 | 0:03:45 | |
and then I thought, "Do you know what? I'm the one bringing all the people in | 0:03:45 | 0:03:48 | |
"so I might as well become a club promoter myself." | 0:03:48 | 0:03:52 | |
'Danielle's job was to make sure | 0:03:52 | 0:03:54 | |
'everyone in the club was having a good time. | 0:03:54 | 0:03:56 | |
'Many of her top clients were Premiership footballers.' | 0:03:56 | 0:03:59 | |
When it comes to footballers, | 0:03:59 | 0:04:01 | |
is there any type of special requirement, | 0:04:01 | 0:04:03 | |
anything special that happens within the club? | 0:04:03 | 0:04:06 | |
They always get, like, the superstar treatment | 0:04:06 | 0:04:08 | |
whenever they go to a club, | 0:04:08 | 0:04:10 | |
like, they will have the top table so everyone can see them. | 0:04:10 | 0:04:14 | |
They will pick out girls in the club and be like, | 0:04:14 | 0:04:18 | |
"I want that one, that one and that one on my table," and then... | 0:04:18 | 0:04:22 | |
So, yeah, no, they request girls. | 0:04:22 | 0:04:25 | |
How's your job different from what you call a pimp? | 0:04:25 | 0:04:29 | |
I can't believe you're asking me that. | 0:04:29 | 0:04:32 | |
It's nothing like a pimp, I'm just working in a nightclub | 0:04:32 | 0:04:36 | |
and if guys that have bought a table off me want to... | 0:04:36 | 0:04:39 | |
want girls on their table then I'm just going to put them on there | 0:04:39 | 0:04:43 | |
because that's what they want. | 0:04:43 | 0:04:45 | |
You get the girls that will specifically go down to the club | 0:04:45 | 0:04:48 | |
to pull a footballer and they'll be hanging around the VIP bits. | 0:04:48 | 0:04:52 | |
What do you really think that they're after? | 0:04:52 | 0:04:55 | |
I can only imagine that it's either to sell a story | 0:04:55 | 0:04:58 | |
or something to do with money, maybe like fame, | 0:04:58 | 0:05:03 | |
they're thinking long run, I don't know. | 0:05:03 | 0:05:05 | |
After the club, do these girls stay, go? | 0:05:05 | 0:05:09 | |
Is there afterparties? What happens? | 0:05:09 | 0:05:11 | |
With the top footballers, they've got a lot of...entourage around them | 0:05:11 | 0:05:17 | |
that will literally just be like, "Look, they need this and this. | 0:05:17 | 0:05:21 | |
"Get them out the back door so they don't get papped." | 0:05:21 | 0:05:24 | |
I know that they've taken quite a few girls back to hotel rooms | 0:05:24 | 0:05:29 | |
and, you know, gangbanged | 0:05:29 | 0:05:32 | |
and had all fuelled sorts of things going on. | 0:05:32 | 0:05:36 | |
Have you ever known any successful relationships | 0:05:36 | 0:05:39 | |
that have developed from a club? | 0:05:39 | 0:05:40 | |
I have heard stories of girls getting bought flats | 0:05:40 | 0:05:44 | |
and getting paid off and being bought cars | 0:05:44 | 0:05:47 | |
to keep their mouth shut. | 0:05:47 | 0:05:48 | |
I've heard that with a couple of really well-known footballers. | 0:05:50 | 0:05:54 | |
There was a particular girl that was out | 0:05:54 | 0:05:56 | |
and she was very well known for going with the footballers | 0:05:56 | 0:05:58 | |
and I remember one time she was actually... | 0:05:58 | 0:06:01 | |
there were some wide boys | 0:06:01 | 0:06:04 | |
that were linked to a particular big footballer | 0:06:04 | 0:06:09 | |
and I think they basically threatened her | 0:06:09 | 0:06:11 | |
that if she was to sell any stories... | 0:06:11 | 0:06:14 | |
-That they would do something to her? -Yeah, she wouldn't get away with it. | 0:06:14 | 0:06:18 | |
That's kind of scary, though, in a way. | 0:06:18 | 0:06:20 | |
Yeah, but she shouldn't be a slag then, should she? | 0:06:20 | 0:06:23 | |
SHE CHUCKLES | 0:06:23 | 0:06:24 | |
You know, they have so much power | 0:06:24 | 0:06:26 | |
-that something might actually happen to you. -They do. | 0:06:26 | 0:06:28 | |
They've got so much money that they could just pay anyone off | 0:06:28 | 0:06:31 | |
to...look after them, do you know what I mean? | 0:06:31 | 0:06:35 | |
I think Danielle has thrown more questions than answers. | 0:06:37 | 0:06:41 | |
I'm feeling like maybe I have to explore more the role of the female | 0:06:41 | 0:06:44 | |
because, to be honest, I don't think that it's all to do with men now. | 0:06:44 | 0:06:49 | |
Thank you so much, it was so nice, I had such a good time. | 0:06:51 | 0:06:54 | |
-That's all right. -That wine got to me. | 0:06:54 | 0:06:57 | |
-See you later. -Bye. | 0:06:57 | 0:06:59 | |
I want to find out how this money and power can affect a young footballer | 0:07:07 | 0:07:11 | |
and who's to blame. | 0:07:11 | 0:07:12 | |
I've travelled to the North of England | 0:07:15 | 0:07:17 | |
to meet with international sporting legend Dwight Yorke. | 0:07:17 | 0:07:21 | |
-So, I can't believe I'm in Cheshire. -Yeah, well, welcome to Cheshire. | 0:07:22 | 0:07:26 | |
Dwight's first year at Manchester United | 0:07:27 | 0:07:30 | |
saw him as top goal-scorer in the Premiership. | 0:07:30 | 0:07:32 | |
He was one of the highest-paid strikers that year. | 0:07:32 | 0:07:35 | |
What advice would you give to a 17-, 16-year-old | 0:07:36 | 0:07:40 | |
trying to make it in football? | 0:07:40 | 0:07:42 | |
It is a short career and I would say to them make as much money | 0:07:42 | 0:07:45 | |
as you can because when it stops... it does eventually stop. | 0:07:45 | 0:07:48 | |
You will make mistakes along the way | 0:07:48 | 0:07:50 | |
but how you minimise the mistakes that you have made. | 0:07:50 | 0:07:53 | |
You're young, you're rich, you're talented. | 0:07:53 | 0:07:56 | |
How do you keep focused? | 0:07:56 | 0:07:58 | |
I think it's difficult at the beginning, | 0:07:58 | 0:08:02 | |
you're really going into unknown territory in respect. | 0:08:02 | 0:08:05 | |
You know, you get recognised on the street, | 0:08:05 | 0:08:08 | |
people asking you for autographs, you're hanging out places, | 0:08:08 | 0:08:11 | |
you're getting more attention than you're used to. | 0:08:11 | 0:08:14 | |
It's very difficult to deal with some of these things | 0:08:14 | 0:08:18 | |
at the very beginning. | 0:08:18 | 0:08:20 | |
What are the temptations that footballers nowadays fall into? | 0:08:20 | 0:08:23 | |
Where do you start? Where do you want me to start? | 0:08:23 | 0:08:26 | |
We talked about women, we're talking about alcoholism, | 0:08:26 | 0:08:30 | |
we're talking about drugs, you know, social media, gambling. | 0:08:30 | 0:08:35 | |
All these things are a prime factor that has happened | 0:08:35 | 0:08:38 | |
within our sport in the past. | 0:08:38 | 0:08:41 | |
You know, you train hard, you come home, | 0:08:41 | 0:08:43 | |
1:30-2:00, you're through the door, | 0:08:43 | 0:08:46 | |
you get up, you went to have a power nap, that's fine. | 0:08:46 | 0:08:49 | |
-5:00, 6:00, you get up, you have your dinner... -You're bored. | 0:08:49 | 0:08:52 | |
..you're living alone, you're bored. What would you do? | 0:08:52 | 0:08:55 | |
Call a mate, OK, we'll go out for a drive, go for dinner, | 0:08:55 | 0:08:58 | |
we're back in, we'll go watch a movie. | 0:08:58 | 0:09:00 | |
You can only do those things for a certain period of time. | 0:09:00 | 0:09:02 | |
If you have anything about you, you don't want to be doing that all. | 0:09:02 | 0:09:05 | |
You want to get something out of your system. | 0:09:05 | 0:09:08 | |
You've got these beautiful young ladies next to you | 0:09:08 | 0:09:11 | |
and you're feeling macho about yourself. | 0:09:11 | 0:09:13 | |
It's a good feel factor at that time. I mean... | 0:09:13 | 0:09:17 | |
What do you tell these young guys? Not to? | 0:09:17 | 0:09:20 | |
Dwight's career continued to go from strength to strength | 0:09:21 | 0:09:25 | |
but with the successes came problems off the pitch. | 0:09:25 | 0:09:27 | |
He had a string of relationships with high-profile "It" girls, | 0:09:27 | 0:09:31 | |
including his infamous relationship with Katie Price. | 0:09:31 | 0:09:34 | |
I don't talk about my personal life | 0:09:34 | 0:09:36 | |
because it's been in the public domain for a number of years | 0:09:36 | 0:09:40 | |
and I just feel that... | 0:09:40 | 0:09:41 | |
Did you want it to be in the public domain? | 0:09:41 | 0:09:44 | |
I don't think anyone wants their private life to be out in the media | 0:09:44 | 0:09:47 | |
but that's something that seems to be a fashionable thing. | 0:09:47 | 0:09:50 | |
You've got OK Magazine, you've got this one, | 0:09:50 | 0:09:52 | |
you've got all kinds of stuff going on. | 0:09:52 | 0:09:54 | |
Some people like that, some people don't, ideally, you know. | 0:09:54 | 0:09:58 | |
But the media sometimes forces you down that road. | 0:09:58 | 0:10:02 | |
Of course, the more successful you are on the football pitch, | 0:10:02 | 0:10:06 | |
the more attention you bring. | 0:10:06 | 0:10:08 | |
I've had my fair share of headlines in the media and, yeah, | 0:10:08 | 0:10:12 | |
at the beginning it seems great and it seems OK | 0:10:12 | 0:10:15 | |
but it does come to a stage where it does not just affect me, | 0:10:15 | 0:10:19 | |
as I said, it affected my family. | 0:10:19 | 0:10:21 | |
I think that's what hurts, when the media gets involved. | 0:10:21 | 0:10:23 | |
They're relentless at it, that's what sells papers, | 0:10:23 | 0:10:26 | |
they want to know, and I dread to live the life of a top athlete now | 0:10:26 | 0:10:31 | |
because everything that you do is being scrutinised. | 0:10:31 | 0:10:34 | |
Would I be the same? | 0:10:34 | 0:10:35 | |
-I think, yeah... -AMAL LAUGHS | 0:10:35 | 0:10:38 | |
I really would, because I was happy doing it then, back in those days. | 0:10:38 | 0:10:42 | |
Dwight enjoyed the part he played off the field, | 0:10:45 | 0:10:48 | |
but what happens to the girls who get caught up in these sex scandals? | 0:10:48 | 0:10:52 | |
Football gossip is commonplace in the tabloids. | 0:10:52 | 0:10:55 | |
Kiss-and-tell stories on famous players | 0:10:55 | 0:10:57 | |
can sell for up to hundreds and thousands of pounds. | 0:10:57 | 0:10:59 | |
I'm on my way to meet Helen Wood. | 0:10:59 | 0:11:02 | |
I've read a bit about her | 0:11:02 | 0:11:04 | |
and I've been investigating a little bit, obviously, | 0:11:04 | 0:11:07 | |
so I do know her story. | 0:11:07 | 0:11:10 | |
Helen first came to the nation's attention | 0:11:10 | 0:11:12 | |
after she took part in a threesome | 0:11:12 | 0:11:14 | |
with England player Wayne Rooney in 2010. | 0:11:14 | 0:11:17 | |
Since her story came out, Helen has built a career for herself. | 0:11:17 | 0:11:20 | |
She's released a book, writes a regular column in a newspaper | 0:11:20 | 0:11:24 | |
and has won Big Brother. | 0:11:24 | 0:11:26 | |
It's important for me to be honest as well | 0:11:26 | 0:11:28 | |
because my mum was the wife of a footballer, you know, | 0:11:28 | 0:11:31 | |
they did break up, and I'm not sure of all the ins and outs | 0:11:31 | 0:11:34 | |
but I do know it was because of women. | 0:11:34 | 0:11:36 | |
And it's women like this who kiss and tell | 0:11:36 | 0:11:38 | |
who end up breaking marriages | 0:11:38 | 0:11:41 | |
and, you know, I didn't grow up with a dad because of that. | 0:11:41 | 0:11:45 | |
She also owns a salon in Bolton, | 0:11:46 | 0:11:48 | |
which is where we've arranged to meet. | 0:11:48 | 0:11:51 | |
I'm doing a documentary where I'm kind of getting to know more | 0:11:51 | 0:11:56 | |
about this secret world of football. | 0:11:56 | 0:11:59 | |
I've got different views on different things, | 0:11:59 | 0:12:02 | |
like, I don't have a problem with footballers sleeping with girls, | 0:12:02 | 0:12:07 | |
provided they're not married. | 0:12:07 | 0:12:09 | |
A lot of people watching would actually be like, | 0:12:09 | 0:12:12 | |
"Well, that's exactly what you did," | 0:12:12 | 0:12:13 | |
so you're saying something but then in the way you've done that... | 0:12:13 | 0:12:16 | |
-So it sounds contradictory, obviously. -Exactly. | 0:12:16 | 0:12:18 | |
Whether people want to believe this or not, | 0:12:18 | 0:12:20 | |
I did not go out one night and think, | 0:12:20 | 0:12:22 | |
"Oh, there we go, I'm going to do that | 0:12:22 | 0:12:24 | |
"and then tomorrow I'm going to make a bit of money off it." | 0:12:24 | 0:12:26 | |
I didn't think like that. | 0:12:26 | 0:12:28 | |
If people choose to think that's how I thought then that's up to them | 0:12:28 | 0:12:31 | |
but I know how I thought and that is not what happened. | 0:12:31 | 0:12:35 | |
So you slept with a footballer, you know he's married, | 0:12:35 | 0:12:38 | |
you know, you're with another girl who's meant to be your friend. | 0:12:38 | 0:12:41 | |
At this point, what's crossing your mind? | 0:12:41 | 0:12:43 | |
To be honest, it's something that pisses me off | 0:12:43 | 0:12:46 | |
how it constantly gets brought up | 0:12:46 | 0:12:48 | |
how I'm this home-wrecker and stuff. | 0:12:48 | 0:12:50 | |
I wasn't a home-wrecker in my eyes. | 0:12:50 | 0:12:52 | |
Why is a girl a slag for sleeping with a footballer, when he's married? | 0:12:52 | 0:12:58 | |
That's bollocks! He is married! | 0:12:58 | 0:13:01 | |
The story of Helen's threesome was leaked by the other woman involved, | 0:13:01 | 0:13:06 | |
Helen's then friend Jennifer Thompson. | 0:13:06 | 0:13:08 | |
Helen later sold her side of the story. | 0:13:08 | 0:13:10 | |
Reportedly, she was paid a five-figure sum. | 0:13:10 | 0:13:14 | |
The difference is, basically, | 0:13:14 | 0:13:15 | |
that you didn't plan, set off to do that. | 0:13:15 | 0:13:18 | |
I denied everything for a year and then the press just kind of... | 0:13:18 | 0:13:23 | |
pushed it that far that it ended up coming out. | 0:13:23 | 0:13:27 | |
My world got flipped upside down, through my own fault, | 0:13:27 | 0:13:30 | |
I did something that I shouldn't have done necessarily, | 0:13:30 | 0:13:33 | |
but I didn't try trapping anybody. | 0:13:33 | 0:13:35 | |
Instead, I was trapped, | 0:13:35 | 0:13:37 | |
and because I didn't have sufficient funds | 0:13:37 | 0:13:40 | |
to stop my name from being outed, | 0:13:40 | 0:13:43 | |
erm, I ended up having the book thrown at me. | 0:13:43 | 0:13:46 | |
For that particular injunction that I would've needed at the time, | 0:13:46 | 0:13:49 | |
I was looking at £50,000. | 0:13:49 | 0:13:52 | |
Where was I going to find £50,000 from? | 0:13:52 | 0:13:54 | |
Do you ever think about these footballers' wives | 0:13:54 | 0:13:57 | |
and how they must feel and what it must be like? | 0:13:57 | 0:13:59 | |
In a way, do you not sometimes feel like saying sorry or communicating, like, what... | 0:13:59 | 0:14:04 | |
No, I think if these wives choose to stay with their husbands | 0:14:04 | 0:14:08 | |
then that's them saying, "Well, that's OK." | 0:14:08 | 0:14:11 | |
I'm not saying that all footballers are the same, | 0:14:11 | 0:14:14 | |
I'm not saying all these WAGs | 0:14:14 | 0:14:15 | |
have gone out there to marry for money, | 0:14:15 | 0:14:18 | |
that would be so unfair to say that, | 0:14:18 | 0:14:20 | |
but I think that a lot of WAGs out there | 0:14:20 | 0:14:23 | |
knew what they were marrying into | 0:14:23 | 0:14:26 | |
and they thought it was acceptable to marry... | 0:14:26 | 0:14:29 | |
Like, they get all the goods in return, | 0:14:29 | 0:14:32 | |
the guy can go out and behave exactly how he wants. | 0:14:32 | 0:14:34 | |
That is a form of prostitution. | 0:14:34 | 0:14:36 | |
Why are they taking them back? | 0:14:36 | 0:14:38 | |
Would they take them back if he was a chippie worker, | 0:14:38 | 0:14:40 | |
if he peeled potatoes all day? | 0:14:40 | 0:14:42 | |
No, they fucking wouldn't, | 0:14:42 | 0:14:43 | |
they take them back because they like the lifestyle. | 0:14:43 | 0:14:47 | |
What can I say? | 0:14:53 | 0:14:54 | |
I know how it feels to have your family wrecked | 0:14:54 | 0:14:58 | |
because of someone who has just come in, | 0:14:58 | 0:15:00 | |
thought it was a great night out and, you know, done this. | 0:15:00 | 0:15:03 | |
When I'm saying it in my family and the impact it had to me | 0:15:03 | 0:15:07 | |
and growing up without a dad, I clearly know, it hurts me. | 0:15:07 | 0:15:11 | |
I look at this girl and I'm thinking, "Hold on a second, | 0:15:11 | 0:15:14 | |
"there was one of these girls, or many of these girls, | 0:15:14 | 0:15:17 | |
"which made my mum definitely move away from my father." | 0:15:17 | 0:15:20 | |
I was too young to remember what happened to MY parents, | 0:15:30 | 0:15:33 | |
but how do you manage the aftermath when stories | 0:15:33 | 0:15:36 | |
about your relationship end up on the front pages of the press? | 0:15:36 | 0:15:41 | |
I'm going to meet up with Jude Cisse, | 0:15:41 | 0:15:44 | |
ex-wife of French international and Liverpool star Djibril Cisse. | 0:15:44 | 0:15:48 | |
Hi, how are you? So lovely to meet you. | 0:15:55 | 0:15:58 | |
-And you. Come in. -Thank you so much for having me. | 0:15:58 | 0:16:01 | |
-Wow, you've got a beautiful house. -Thank you. | 0:16:01 | 0:16:04 | |
'Like any WAG, the house is complete with its own dressing room, | 0:16:04 | 0:16:07 | |
'and she offers to show me her impressive collection.' | 0:16:07 | 0:16:10 | |
You are one lucky woman. | 0:16:10 | 0:16:11 | |
See, a girl's best friend, isn't it, all these shoes. | 0:16:11 | 0:16:14 | |
It's about 11 years' worth here. | 0:16:14 | 0:16:17 | |
Before marrying a footballer, you know, who were you? | 0:16:17 | 0:16:21 | |
I was a qualified lecturer, so I used to lecture in post-16 college. | 0:16:21 | 0:16:27 | |
I had a lot of pressure when I got married to Djibril | 0:16:27 | 0:16:29 | |
cos he went to ten clubs in ten years | 0:16:29 | 0:16:32 | |
so it was very difficult to have a job in lecturing, | 0:16:32 | 0:16:35 | |
because obviously it requires you to be there at 9:00 in the morning | 0:16:35 | 0:16:38 | |
to teach people and stuff, | 0:16:38 | 0:16:40 | |
so it was something that, erm, I gave up in the end. | 0:16:40 | 0:16:43 | |
How was your wedding day, what was that like? | 0:16:43 | 0:16:46 | |
It was a three-day event, we got married in a big castle in Wales | 0:16:46 | 0:16:51 | |
and we had over 200 people there. | 0:16:51 | 0:16:54 | |
Yeah, it was the fairy-tale wedding, | 0:16:54 | 0:16:56 | |
it was something that I'd always dreamed of. | 0:16:56 | 0:16:58 | |
'Jude's lavish £100,000 wedding was covered by Hello magazine.' | 0:16:58 | 0:17:03 | |
Oh, wow! He dressed red! | 0:17:03 | 0:17:05 | |
It was just after the Champions League as well, | 0:17:05 | 0:17:09 | |
so he was red for Liverpool. | 0:17:09 | 0:17:11 | |
'Jude filed for divorce from Djibril on the grounds of adultery.' | 0:17:11 | 0:17:15 | |
People always think, oh, the typical footballer, | 0:17:15 | 0:17:18 | |
he's cheated or whatever, | 0:17:18 | 0:17:20 | |
but there were a lot of... factors that broke the marriage. | 0:17:20 | 0:17:25 | |
A lot of factors. | 0:17:25 | 0:17:26 | |
Although I have all these nice things, | 0:17:26 | 0:17:29 | |
you have to invest for the future, and I think a lot | 0:17:29 | 0:17:31 | |
of the difficulty was that he didn't know how to invest. | 0:17:31 | 0:17:34 | |
He didn't know how to put things together and manage things. | 0:17:34 | 0:17:37 | |
He's never had to do that. | 0:17:37 | 0:17:38 | |
So it was a lot of stress for me trying to keep him grounded as well. | 0:17:38 | 0:17:43 | |
Obviously, he was in the front page of the newspapers | 0:17:43 | 0:17:46 | |
for assaulting me and stuff like that so it was very difficult | 0:17:46 | 0:17:49 | |
and that's what I found challenging because I knew | 0:17:49 | 0:17:51 | |
I was going to get phone calls the next day from my family, | 0:17:51 | 0:17:54 | |
from my uncles, from everything, | 0:17:54 | 0:17:56 | |
and it was a massive shock to a lot of people. | 0:17:56 | 0:17:59 | |
How do you deal with that? | 0:17:59 | 0:18:01 | |
I think you just know that the media can...put things out of proportion. | 0:18:01 | 0:18:07 | |
You know, it isn't easy at times and you have to deal with it. | 0:18:07 | 0:18:10 | |
There's no way of not dealing with it because when it's there | 0:18:10 | 0:18:13 | |
and you're faced with it, what can you do? | 0:18:13 | 0:18:15 | |
'Jude and Djibril separated after seven years.' | 0:18:17 | 0:18:20 | |
So he's left, told the children "I'll be home every weekend" | 0:18:22 | 0:18:26 | |
and never come back again. | 0:18:26 | 0:18:28 | |
Now, they're lucky if they see him... | 0:18:28 | 0:18:31 | |
Well, last year, they saw him three times, | 0:18:31 | 0:18:33 | |
this year, they've seen him once. | 0:18:33 | 0:18:34 | |
For so long, I wanted my parents to be together. | 0:18:34 | 0:18:37 | |
My mum didn't give my dad a second chance, | 0:18:37 | 0:18:39 | |
and she was very, very hard, | 0:18:39 | 0:18:41 | |
and how many chances can you really give a man | 0:18:41 | 0:18:43 | |
and especially a footballer? | 0:18:43 | 0:18:44 | |
But you're quite bitter when it comes to men, though, aren't you? | 0:18:44 | 0:18:47 | |
Yeah, I am, I'm angry. I'm angry because he hurt my mum. | 0:18:47 | 0:18:50 | |
-I was very angry as well. -I'm angry. | 0:18:50 | 0:18:51 | |
It's what I had to learn to do, to let go of that anger, | 0:18:51 | 0:18:54 | |
because you can never move on if you keep that anger. | 0:18:54 | 0:18:57 | |
'For Jude, being married to a footballer | 0:18:57 | 0:19:00 | |
'wasn't the fairy tale she was expecting.' | 0:19:00 | 0:19:02 | |
Is it possible to avoid these problems | 0:19:07 | 0:19:09 | |
and have a happy marriage with a player? | 0:19:09 | 0:19:11 | |
I've decided to spend some time with my friend Olivia | 0:19:13 | 0:19:16 | |
at her home in London. | 0:19:16 | 0:19:18 | |
Hi, Olivia, it's me, Amal. | 0:19:18 | 0:19:21 | |
Hi. Hi, Olivia. | 0:19:25 | 0:19:27 | |
-How are you? -So nice to see you. How are you? -Good, and you? | 0:19:27 | 0:19:31 | |
Good. Now I'm even better, I'm in your house. | 0:19:31 | 0:19:33 | |
'Olivia is not only a good friend, | 0:19:33 | 0:19:36 | |
'she's also the wife of Alex Song, a Premiership footballer | 0:19:36 | 0:19:39 | |
'who has played for the likes of Arsenal, West Ham and Barcelona.' | 0:19:39 | 0:19:44 | |
Here is the African Cup. | 0:19:44 | 0:19:45 | |
-Oh, my gosh, two? -Yeah. -Wow! | 0:19:45 | 0:19:48 | |
The African Cup in 2010. | 0:19:48 | 0:19:50 | |
Wow, and the trophy's really nice and it matches my nails. | 0:19:50 | 0:19:52 | |
Ooh, maybe I should keep one. | 0:19:52 | 0:19:55 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:19:55 | 0:19:57 | |
Wow! | 0:19:57 | 0:19:59 | |
These are the good sides of football, I mean, automatic pool! | 0:19:59 | 0:20:04 | |
I'm not complaining, you know! | 0:20:04 | 0:20:08 | |
AMAL CHEERS | 0:20:08 | 0:20:10 | |
'Olivia and I have been friends for years. | 0:20:10 | 0:20:13 | |
'She and Alex have always seemed to have the perfect relationship.' | 0:20:13 | 0:20:16 | |
When did you get married to Alex? How many years has it been? | 0:20:16 | 0:20:19 | |
-11 years now. -11 years? | 0:20:19 | 0:20:21 | |
We were so young. | 0:20:21 | 0:20:23 | |
I remember when we came here, he was, like, so impressed | 0:20:23 | 0:20:30 | |
because he was in the changing rooms with Thierry Henry and Robert Pires. | 0:20:30 | 0:20:36 | |
He was like, "Can you imagine? | 0:20:36 | 0:20:38 | |
"When I'm dressing up, I have Thierry Henry next to me, | 0:20:38 | 0:20:42 | |
"like, can you imagine?" | 0:20:42 | 0:20:44 | |
I couldn't, because I don't really know football. | 0:20:44 | 0:20:47 | |
'I tell Olivia about meeting Helen Wood | 0:20:47 | 0:20:49 | |
'and ask how she handles trust in her marriage.' | 0:20:49 | 0:20:52 | |
As a wife, it's quite hard to cope with all the girls | 0:20:52 | 0:20:57 | |
who want to have my husband. | 0:20:57 | 0:20:59 | |
When I go out with him, let's say we go to a club and stuff, yeah, | 0:20:59 | 0:21:06 | |
I see the girls ready to throw themselves, you know. | 0:21:06 | 0:21:11 | |
I just feel kind of sad, honestly. | 0:21:11 | 0:21:15 | |
THEY CHUCKLE For them! | 0:21:15 | 0:21:17 | |
I do feel sad for them, because they just see the glitter. | 0:21:17 | 0:21:22 | |
Looking for someone just because of his bank account, | 0:21:22 | 0:21:27 | |
I'm not really sure it will last. | 0:21:27 | 0:21:30 | |
Every time that I meet, like, a woman who's married to one or an ex-wife | 0:21:30 | 0:21:35 | |
or something like that, all the stories that they tell me, | 0:21:35 | 0:21:39 | |
they are very similar to what my mum lived. | 0:21:39 | 0:21:41 | |
What do you expect for your special one? | 0:21:41 | 0:21:46 | |
I think my whole idea growing up was how the man will come in | 0:21:46 | 0:21:50 | |
and swoop the woman off and the woman will live this great life | 0:21:50 | 0:21:53 | |
and he will protect her. | 0:21:53 | 0:21:55 | |
I think, in the modern day, the roles have kind of reversed. | 0:21:55 | 0:22:00 | |
You are struggling with trust a lot, like, you have a wall. | 0:22:00 | 0:22:06 | |
What are you scared of? | 0:22:06 | 0:22:08 | |
I genuinely... I don't know how you trust. | 0:22:08 | 0:22:11 | |
I don't know, I don't know. | 0:22:11 | 0:22:13 | |
Everywhere you look in the game, | 0:22:21 | 0:22:22 | |
there appears to be money and lavish lifestyles, | 0:22:22 | 0:22:25 | |
but there's one part of football that still has a well-earned reputation | 0:22:25 | 0:22:30 | |
with no hint of a scandal. | 0:22:30 | 0:22:31 | |
I want to find out what women's football is doing right | 0:22:33 | 0:22:37 | |
that the men's game seems to have got so wrong. | 0:22:37 | 0:22:40 | |
Bend it in! | 0:22:40 | 0:22:41 | |
I've been invited to watch the Basildon Ladies | 0:22:41 | 0:22:43 | |
play their Sunday match. | 0:22:43 | 0:22:45 | |
This year, more people than ever watched women's football. | 0:22:45 | 0:22:49 | |
England Ladies came third in the World Cup, | 0:22:49 | 0:22:51 | |
an achievement not matched by the men since 1966. | 0:22:51 | 0:22:55 | |
Another three, come on. Well done, good work. | 0:22:55 | 0:22:57 | |
Despite all this, | 0:22:57 | 0:22:58 | |
the women's game still only has a small following compared to the men. | 0:22:58 | 0:23:02 | |
While the girls are warming up, I take the opportunity | 0:23:04 | 0:23:06 | |
to have a chat with their coach, Danny Greaves. | 0:23:06 | 0:23:09 | |
He played professionally for a number of top clubs | 0:23:09 | 0:23:12 | |
but grew tired of the men's game. | 0:23:12 | 0:23:14 | |
The trouble with footballers today is from a young age | 0:23:14 | 0:23:17 | |
they're completely pampered and surrounded in a bowl. | 0:23:17 | 0:23:20 | |
They become talented boys at 14, 15, | 0:23:20 | 0:23:23 | |
and don't have to do anything in life any more. | 0:23:23 | 0:23:27 | |
Therefore they grow up, they earn good money, | 0:23:27 | 0:23:29 | |
even great money in some quarters. | 0:23:29 | 0:23:32 | |
The problem with that is that they have no sense of realism | 0:23:32 | 0:23:35 | |
about the world and, consequently, most of them | 0:23:35 | 0:23:38 | |
and quite a lot of them do believe they're above the law. | 0:23:38 | 0:23:42 | |
And therefore there where the problems start, | 0:23:42 | 0:23:44 | |
"If I misbehave, oh, the football club will look after me," | 0:23:44 | 0:23:47 | |
or, "If I misbehave, oh, I'm a footballer, I'll get away with it." | 0:23:47 | 0:23:51 | |
Unfortunately, it's a culture that we're now breeding. | 0:23:51 | 0:23:54 | |
With the women at the moment is the enthusiasm for the game, | 0:23:54 | 0:23:59 | |
you know, the willingness to learn, to get better. | 0:23:59 | 0:24:02 | |
If I was a betting man, I would say England women | 0:24:02 | 0:24:05 | |
would win the World Cup before England men will. | 0:24:05 | 0:24:07 | |
MUSIC: Bitch Better Have My Money by Rihanna | 0:24:13 | 0:24:17 | |
'After the warm-up, I head into the changing room, | 0:24:22 | 0:24:25 | |
'a place strictly off limits in men's football.' | 0:24:25 | 0:24:28 | |
Hi, girls. Whoa. I'm like whoop! | 0:24:28 | 0:24:31 | |
THEY CHUCKLE | 0:24:31 | 0:24:33 | |
Why do you actually think that footballers hit headlines | 0:24:33 | 0:24:36 | |
for the wrong reasons? | 0:24:36 | 0:24:37 | |
Money. | 0:24:37 | 0:24:39 | |
It's not massive in the women's game | 0:24:39 | 0:24:41 | |
but it is in the men's game, as you know. | 0:24:41 | 0:24:43 | |
You know, the wages that the guys are on is extortionate, | 0:24:43 | 0:24:47 | |
it's just unbelievable. | 0:24:47 | 0:24:49 | |
You know, what we earn in probably ten years is what they earn in a week. | 0:24:49 | 0:24:52 | |
Would you say, because of obviously the lack of money in a way and et cetera, | 0:24:52 | 0:24:56 | |
that the women's game is actually a bit purer than the men's game? | 0:24:56 | 0:25:00 | |
For us, the game, we just play for the love of the game. | 0:25:00 | 0:25:03 | |
We're not here for any money, we're here to win and turn up as a team, | 0:25:03 | 0:25:06 | |
whereas in the men's game, if they lose, | 0:25:06 | 0:25:08 | |
they're still going to get their bonus, | 0:25:08 | 0:25:10 | |
they're still going to get all their money and things like that | 0:25:10 | 0:25:13 | |
so, for us, it's just pure... There's no incentive for that. | 0:25:13 | 0:25:15 | |
What do you think it will take for change to come? | 0:25:15 | 0:25:19 | |
You won't see a massive change | 0:25:19 | 0:25:20 | |
until, again, it's built into the leagues, | 0:25:20 | 0:25:22 | |
till our system...there is a bit more money fed in | 0:25:22 | 0:25:25 | |
so things can be changed. | 0:25:25 | 0:25:26 | |
So until we have a rise in stats and people watching, turning up, | 0:25:26 | 0:25:29 | |
nothing's really going to change at the moment. | 0:25:29 | 0:25:31 | |
Is it about attitudes? | 0:25:31 | 0:25:32 | |
Do you think that in society we kind of view footballers | 0:25:32 | 0:25:35 | |
and put them in this pedestal, kind of like semi-gods in a way? | 0:25:35 | 0:25:38 | |
Rugby in England is massive. | 0:25:38 | 0:25:40 | |
You don't see a lot of rugby players going out, | 0:25:40 | 0:25:42 | |
creating the same kind of headlines as the footballers do. | 0:25:42 | 0:25:45 | |
Now, why is that? | 0:25:45 | 0:25:46 | |
In England, I think it's just the fact that football | 0:25:46 | 0:25:49 | |
is put on a massive pedestal | 0:25:49 | 0:25:50 | |
and every other sport is put underneath that | 0:25:50 | 0:25:52 | |
and therefore the people who play that sport are put underneath that. | 0:25:52 | 0:25:56 | |
One, two, three... | 0:25:57 | 0:25:59 | |
Great, Kirsty! | 0:26:02 | 0:26:03 | |
I think the girls are great, they're really down to earth, | 0:26:03 | 0:26:06 | |
really normal and it really, really seems | 0:26:06 | 0:26:08 | |
like these girls just genuinely love the sport. | 0:26:08 | 0:26:10 | |
Go on, Blues! | 0:26:10 | 0:26:11 | |
They're not here for the money, they're not here for the people, | 0:26:16 | 0:26:19 | |
they're not here for the crowd, | 0:26:19 | 0:26:20 | |
they're actually here because they bloody love football. | 0:26:20 | 0:26:23 | |
WHISTLE BLOWS | 0:26:23 | 0:26:25 | |
Well done! | 0:26:26 | 0:26:28 | |
According to the girls, | 0:26:30 | 0:26:31 | |
the reason their male equivalents are making headlines | 0:26:31 | 0:26:34 | |
is for their obscene pay cheques. | 0:26:34 | 0:26:36 | |
A professional female footballer earns £23,000 a year, | 0:26:36 | 0:26:41 | |
which is equivalent to a day's wage | 0:26:41 | 0:26:42 | |
for the likes of Wayne Rooney and John Terry. | 0:26:42 | 0:26:45 | |
But for some footballers it's not all about the money. | 0:26:45 | 0:26:48 | |
I've been told about a Premiership player | 0:26:48 | 0:26:50 | |
who chose to walk away from the game for good. | 0:26:50 | 0:26:53 | |
He was forced to make a choice between football or his family. | 0:26:53 | 0:26:57 | |
He chose his family. | 0:26:57 | 0:26:59 | |
MUSIC: My Type by Saint Motel | 0:26:59 | 0:27:03 | |
So I've come to meet David Bentley. | 0:27:03 | 0:27:05 | |
He's one of the only players that I know that has actually | 0:27:05 | 0:27:09 | |
decided to step away from the football world, | 0:27:09 | 0:27:12 | |
and I hope that he'll have a really open, honest take | 0:27:12 | 0:27:16 | |
because I think that he has nothing to lose at this point. | 0:27:16 | 0:27:19 | |
David Bentley climbed the ranks at Arsenal, played for England | 0:27:19 | 0:27:23 | |
and was tipped to be the next David Beckham. | 0:27:23 | 0:27:25 | |
But at just 29 he decided to hang up his boots and retire from the sport. | 0:27:27 | 0:27:31 | |
-Hola, que tal? -Hola, bien. | 0:27:31 | 0:27:35 | |
-Ah, hablas espanol! -Un poco. | 0:27:35 | 0:27:38 | |
-Ahh, I was trying, I was trying it! -You speak Spanish? | 0:27:38 | 0:27:40 | |
Yeah, it's my first language. | 0:27:40 | 0:27:43 | |
'He moved his young family to Spain | 0:27:43 | 0:27:45 | |
'and now runs a restaurant and club business catering to holiday-makers.' | 0:27:45 | 0:27:49 | |
This looks so cool. | 0:27:51 | 0:27:54 | |
So did you always want to be a footballer? | 0:27:57 | 0:28:00 | |
It was my dream, it was the first thing I was good at | 0:28:00 | 0:28:03 | |
and probably the only thing really I was good at. | 0:28:03 | 0:28:06 | |
If football was your dream and you loved it so much, | 0:28:06 | 0:28:09 | |
I feel like something really intense and strong must have happened | 0:28:09 | 0:28:13 | |
to kind of make you change your mind in this way. | 0:28:13 | 0:28:17 | |
I was earning the money but the money was bringing me nothing. | 0:28:17 | 0:28:19 | |
The further I got on, the less I enjoyed it. | 0:28:19 | 0:28:22 | |
Friends, family, everything was breaking down around me | 0:28:22 | 0:28:26 | |
so it was the kind of, you know, "more money, more problems". | 0:28:26 | 0:28:31 | |
But why? Is it the day-to-day? What makes football less enjoyable? | 0:28:31 | 0:28:35 | |
It's the pressure, the focus, the people that surround it. | 0:28:35 | 0:28:37 | |
The players are there now to be shot at. | 0:28:37 | 0:28:39 | |
It's changed, with social media and the focus | 0:28:39 | 0:28:43 | |
and...society has become a lot more jealous and envious. | 0:28:43 | 0:28:49 | |
Was it, like, the women, the money, the agents? | 0:28:49 | 0:28:53 | |
Do you think, in a way, you were just losing who you were? | 0:28:53 | 0:28:56 | |
The whole caring side of what it should be all about is gone, | 0:28:56 | 0:29:00 | |
it's a ruthless business. | 0:29:00 | 0:29:02 | |
You're a commodity and a piece of meat. | 0:29:02 | 0:29:04 | |
You sign that contract, you become the public's possession | 0:29:04 | 0:29:08 | |
and you have to play that role. | 0:29:08 | 0:29:10 | |
The best ones who play it well are probably the most successful. | 0:29:10 | 0:29:14 | |
Well, look, do you know what? | 0:29:14 | 0:29:16 | |
This seems like a very good plan to me. | 0:29:16 | 0:29:19 | |
I feel like it takes a lot of courage for someone to say no | 0:29:20 | 0:29:25 | |
to a 60-, 70-grand salary. It was his dream. | 0:29:25 | 0:29:29 | |
He no longer believes in that dream. | 0:29:29 | 0:29:31 | |
It's not just about the money, it's about culture, attitude, | 0:29:34 | 0:29:37 | |
social media, the era we live in. | 0:29:37 | 0:29:40 | |
It's to do with so many different things that it almost becomes | 0:29:40 | 0:29:44 | |
harder to focus and target something, because it's a mix of everything. | 0:29:44 | 0:29:49 | |
David made me realise that all the money, fame and pressure | 0:29:51 | 0:29:54 | |
can have a negative affect on players, | 0:29:54 | 0:29:57 | |
so who's looking out for their welfare? | 0:29:57 | 0:30:00 | |
Back in England, I've set up a meeting with one of the biggest | 0:30:03 | 0:30:06 | |
and best-known managers in the game - Harry Redknapp. | 0:30:06 | 0:30:11 | |
Harry's son Jamie played for Spurs and Liverpool | 0:30:11 | 0:30:14 | |
and he's uncle to Chelsea legend Frank Lampard. | 0:30:14 | 0:30:17 | |
I'm actually quite excited and quite nervous, I don't know what | 0:30:17 | 0:30:21 | |
he's going to say but I hope he can finally say something | 0:30:21 | 0:30:23 | |
which is just going to determine, | 0:30:23 | 0:30:25 | |
you know, why are these footballers hitting headlines? | 0:30:25 | 0:30:28 | |
Harry has been managing players for some of the biggest clubs | 0:30:28 | 0:30:31 | |
in the UK for the past 30 years | 0:30:31 | 0:30:33 | |
so is well placed to offer insight into a player's behaviour. | 0:30:33 | 0:30:36 | |
-Good morning. -Hello, good morning. | 0:30:36 | 0:30:38 | |
-How are you? -So good. | 0:30:38 | 0:30:39 | |
-OK, good. -So lovely to meet you. -And you, nice to see you. | 0:30:39 | 0:30:42 | |
-Thank you very much for joining me. -How's dad, all right? | 0:30:42 | 0:30:44 | |
Yes, he's good, actually. | 0:30:44 | 0:30:46 | |
Could you start off by telling me what does a manager actually do? | 0:30:46 | 0:30:50 | |
He's responsible for...picking the team and signing players and... | 0:30:50 | 0:30:57 | |
the general day-to-day running of the football side of the club - | 0:30:57 | 0:31:00 | |
organising training and looking after 40-odd young men | 0:31:00 | 0:31:07 | |
who, every day, one of them's got a problem. | 0:31:07 | 0:31:11 | |
Like a father figure in many ways, really. | 0:31:11 | 0:31:13 | |
So when there is a problem, | 0:31:13 | 0:31:15 | |
for example, they get out of hand, they've gone out one night, | 0:31:15 | 0:31:18 | |
they've hit headlines, how do you actually manage that? | 0:31:18 | 0:31:21 | |
You have to manage it as best you can. | 0:31:21 | 0:31:22 | |
If you can keep it out of the newspapers, that's fantastic to start with. | 0:31:22 | 0:31:25 | |
You don't really want it hitting the headlines, | 0:31:25 | 0:31:27 | |
you want to keep it within house if you can, but then you have to talk | 0:31:27 | 0:31:30 | |
to the player involved and tell him that this is not the way to behave. | 0:31:30 | 0:31:35 | |
You know, you're supposed to be setting an example | 0:31:35 | 0:31:38 | |
out there to young kids, you know, and it doesn't go down well. | 0:31:38 | 0:31:42 | |
With cases like the Ched Evans case | 0:31:42 | 0:31:43 | |
or, for example, Leicester City boys, | 0:31:43 | 0:31:45 | |
do you think they'll be re-signed? | 0:31:45 | 0:31:47 | |
I don't know what Ched's situation is. | 0:31:47 | 0:31:51 | |
Obviously, he's paid a heavy price as well. | 0:31:51 | 0:31:54 | |
You know, he's lost his football status and... | 0:31:54 | 0:31:58 | |
but, you know, and the young lads at Leicester, | 0:31:58 | 0:32:01 | |
I think a couple of them have got fixed up with new clubs. | 0:32:01 | 0:32:04 | |
Hopefully, they've learnt their lesson | 0:32:04 | 0:32:06 | |
and won't misbehave like that again. | 0:32:06 | 0:32:08 | |
Do you remember any incidences where you thought, | 0:32:08 | 0:32:10 | |
"Oh, my God, this player is such a nuisance, like, | 0:32:10 | 0:32:13 | |
"this is just going to cause some hassle"? | 0:32:13 | 0:32:15 | |
Quite often, it's the most talented ones who can be the biggest problem. | 0:32:15 | 0:32:19 | |
If someone steps out of line who's not a good player and you might want to get rid of him anyway, | 0:32:19 | 0:32:23 | |
you'll say, "Oh, he's broke the rules, bump, he's gone." | 0:32:23 | 0:32:25 | |
If it's a top player who's worth £20 million or something | 0:32:25 | 0:32:29 | |
then you tend...he gets treated, there's no doubt about it, | 0:32:29 | 0:32:32 | |
he'll get treated differently. | 0:32:32 | 0:32:34 | |
You don't suddenly sack him, because someone else will take him. | 0:32:34 | 0:32:37 | |
He's an important player to your... and that is a fact. | 0:32:37 | 0:32:40 | |
It's not the right way it should be done | 0:32:40 | 0:32:42 | |
but that's the way it is, it works that way. | 0:32:42 | 0:32:44 | |
-Someone's worth, got good value... -It's the money. | 0:32:44 | 0:32:48 | |
Yeah, you can't afford just to sack 'em. | 0:32:48 | 0:32:50 | |
Thank you very much for your time. It's been amazing, Harry. | 0:32:50 | 0:32:53 | |
-Nice to talk to you. -Thank you. -OK, pleasure. | 0:32:53 | 0:32:56 | |
SHE MOUTHS | 0:32:56 | 0:32:58 | |
I've seen from this interview that, you know, the more money you have, | 0:32:58 | 0:33:02 | |
the more stuff you can get away with. | 0:33:02 | 0:33:04 | |
Is that fair? Should it be like that? | 0:33:04 | 0:33:06 | |
Can a player get away with X, Y, Z just because he's worth 20 million? | 0:33:06 | 0:33:12 | |
Harry had made a lot of interesting points | 0:33:12 | 0:33:15 | |
but something that stood out to me | 0:33:15 | 0:33:17 | |
was that he believed Ched Evans had paid a heavy price. | 0:33:17 | 0:33:20 | |
Ched Evans, the professional footballer convicted of rape, | 0:33:21 | 0:33:24 | |
has been freed from prison today on licence. | 0:33:24 | 0:33:27 | |
Ched Evans was a striker for Sheffield United. | 0:33:27 | 0:33:30 | |
In 2012, he was convicted of raping a 19-year-old girl | 0:33:30 | 0:33:34 | |
at a hotel in Wales and sentenced to five years in prison. | 0:33:34 | 0:33:38 | |
After serving half of this time, | 0:33:38 | 0:33:40 | |
he was released and was set to return to football. | 0:33:40 | 0:33:42 | |
The Evans case caused an unprecedented legal | 0:33:42 | 0:33:45 | |
and moral maze for the industry. | 0:33:45 | 0:33:47 | |
Should Ched Evans be allowed to play for Sheffield United again? | 0:33:47 | 0:33:51 | |
Here's the straightforward question - | 0:33:51 | 0:33:53 | |
are people who go to prison entitled to come out of prison | 0:33:53 | 0:33:58 | |
and try to re-build their lives or aren't they? | 0:33:58 | 0:34:00 | |
He's served his time, he's served two years, | 0:34:00 | 0:34:02 | |
but the rape was not violent... | 0:34:02 | 0:34:04 | |
I think that the owners need to think really long and hard | 0:34:04 | 0:34:06 | |
about the fact that when you take a footballer on | 0:34:06 | 0:34:09 | |
you're not taking just a footballer these days, | 0:34:09 | 0:34:11 | |
you're also taking on a role model. | 0:34:11 | 0:34:12 | |
Ched has always denied any wrongdoing. | 0:34:12 | 0:34:15 | |
The application seeks to demonstrate that the acts | 0:34:15 | 0:34:18 | |
I engaged in on that night were consensual in nature | 0:34:18 | 0:34:21 | |
and not rape. | 0:34:21 | 0:34:22 | |
The Criminal Case Review Commission has referred his case | 0:34:22 | 0:34:26 | |
back to the Court of Appeal and Ched is awaiting the result. | 0:34:26 | 0:34:29 | |
Ched Evans isn't the first top footballer to be accused of rape | 0:34:34 | 0:34:38 | |
but he is the first to be sentenced. | 0:34:38 | 0:34:41 | |
Many accusations have been made against footballers for rape, | 0:34:41 | 0:34:45 | |
sexual assault, and there is even a current player | 0:34:45 | 0:34:48 | |
facing child-sex-offence charges. | 0:34:48 | 0:34:50 | |
I'm meeting Amy, a 34-year-old who's been raped, | 0:34:50 | 0:34:54 | |
as I want to hear from a victim's point of view. | 0:34:54 | 0:34:57 | |
When you see footballers come up in rape cases on TV, | 0:34:57 | 0:35:00 | |
what feelings does that make you have? | 0:35:00 | 0:35:03 | |
It makes me angry. | 0:35:04 | 0:35:07 | |
What makes me most angry about it is the lack of remorse. | 0:35:07 | 0:35:10 | |
Rape is not that far down the rung on how serious it is - | 0:35:10 | 0:35:13 | |
you change someone's life, you ruin someone's life. | 0:35:13 | 0:35:16 | |
Once a footballer has been convicted and served their sentence, | 0:35:16 | 0:35:19 | |
should they be allowed back in the game? | 0:35:19 | 0:35:21 | |
If you're going into government and you'd raped someone, | 0:35:21 | 0:35:23 | |
would you be allowed your job back? No chance. | 0:35:23 | 0:35:25 | |
If you were a teacher in a school and you'd had that conviction, | 0:35:25 | 0:35:28 | |
would you be able to have your job back? Absolutely no chance, | 0:35:28 | 0:35:31 | |
and I think especially if you're in a position like that, you know, | 0:35:31 | 0:35:34 | |
the football club need to take a bit of responsibility | 0:35:34 | 0:35:37 | |
and think about the message that they're sending to fans, | 0:35:37 | 0:35:40 | |
to the rest of their club, and they need to realise how serious that is. | 0:35:40 | 0:35:43 | |
How has being raped affected you? | 0:35:43 | 0:35:47 | |
It's affected me in every area of my life. | 0:35:47 | 0:35:51 | |
It's affected my work, I've had to leave two jobs. | 0:35:51 | 0:35:54 | |
It's affected my friends, I've lost a lot of friends through it. | 0:35:54 | 0:35:57 | |
It's affected my family who have been hurt by it. | 0:35:57 | 0:36:00 | |
It's really affected my health quite negatively. | 0:36:00 | 0:36:03 | |
I'm not sure people quite realise | 0:36:03 | 0:36:06 | |
the impact that something like rape has. | 0:36:06 | 0:36:10 | |
Do you think that people find it hard to hear about your story? | 0:36:10 | 0:36:12 | |
I think they find it very difficult, | 0:36:12 | 0:36:14 | |
I think they find the word "rape" difficult to hear. | 0:36:14 | 0:36:17 | |
Quite often you get...quite cold, you know, | 0:36:17 | 0:36:19 | |
people don't know how to handle it, | 0:36:19 | 0:36:21 | |
and then there's always these questions, people, | 0:36:21 | 0:36:24 | |
one of the first things they do is...there's victim-blaming, | 0:36:24 | 0:36:27 | |
so they question how. | 0:36:27 | 0:36:29 | |
It's such a horrible thing to happen, is she telling the truth? | 0:36:29 | 0:36:33 | |
I think that a lot of people in society feel like rape | 0:36:35 | 0:36:39 | |
is not that serious | 0:36:39 | 0:36:40 | |
and in the footballing world, where it's male domination | 0:36:40 | 0:36:45 | |
kind of thing going on, I just can't imagine being a victim of rape | 0:36:45 | 0:36:50 | |
and having to come out publicly in the footballing world, to be honest. | 0:36:50 | 0:36:55 | |
The 19-year-old in the Ched Evans case | 0:36:55 | 0:36:58 | |
had her name leaked on Twitter | 0:36:58 | 0:37:00 | |
and had to change her identity five times. | 0:37:00 | 0:37:02 | |
It's one of the worse cases of victim-blaming | 0:37:02 | 0:37:05 | |
ever seen in this country. | 0:37:05 | 0:37:07 | |
People took to Twitter in their thousands to attack the character | 0:37:07 | 0:37:10 | |
of this young woman to query her account of events. | 0:37:10 | 0:37:13 | |
I'm beginning to see another problem is how we view rape in the UK. | 0:37:13 | 0:37:17 | |
I don't understand why someone would make a hashtag | 0:37:17 | 0:37:20 | |
saying "it's not rape if..." | 0:37:20 | 0:37:22 | |
I mean, it's not... Why would you even start that? | 0:37:22 | 0:37:26 | |
Rape isn't being dealt with in any type of serous way. | 0:37:26 | 0:37:30 | |
I don't think that this is something that should, at any point, | 0:37:30 | 0:37:34 | |
by anyone, be taken as a joke. | 0:37:34 | 0:37:37 | |
I've decided to contact a sociologist | 0:37:42 | 0:37:45 | |
to see why rape culture seems to be accepted in football. | 0:37:45 | 0:37:49 | |
-Hi, Amal. -Hello, lovely to meet you. -Really lovely to meet you too. | 0:37:49 | 0:37:54 | |
'Liz Kelly is a professor at London Metropolitan University. | 0:37:54 | 0:37:57 | |
'She has a PhD in sociology and advises the EU on gender equality.' | 0:37:57 | 0:38:02 | |
The Emirates is just over here. | 0:38:02 | 0:38:05 | |
'Liz is also a massive football fan.' | 0:38:05 | 0:38:08 | |
This is an amazing view. | 0:38:08 | 0:38:10 | |
Why do you think so many footballers | 0:38:10 | 0:38:12 | |
get caught up in so many sex scandals? | 0:38:12 | 0:38:14 | |
I don't know whether it's specific to footballers. | 0:38:14 | 0:38:17 | |
I think there's an issue about, erm, men's expectations of sex, | 0:38:17 | 0:38:22 | |
men's sense of entitlement to have sex, | 0:38:22 | 0:38:26 | |
and it's everywhere, | 0:38:26 | 0:38:29 | |
but I think the more power, position | 0:38:29 | 0:38:32 | |
and status that you have in the world as a man, | 0:38:32 | 0:38:36 | |
the more you feel entitled to it. | 0:38:36 | 0:38:39 | |
Do you think some of the girls should take some responsibility as well? | 0:38:39 | 0:38:43 | |
I think we need to be doing sex and relationships education | 0:38:43 | 0:38:48 | |
with all young people about what sexual ethics are. | 0:38:48 | 0:38:52 | |
Would you say that the football clubs kind of...you know, | 0:38:52 | 0:38:56 | |
they kind of... they're happy with this | 0:38:56 | 0:38:59 | |
or they encourage it in a way? | 0:38:59 | 0:39:00 | |
LIZ SIGHS | 0:39:00 | 0:39:01 | |
I don't think they're happy with it | 0:39:01 | 0:39:04 | |
but I think they...they accept | 0:39:04 | 0:39:08 | |
what I would call a version of rape culture in football clubs. | 0:39:08 | 0:39:15 | |
If you think about rape culture as that it's about blaming the victim, | 0:39:15 | 0:39:19 | |
it's about trivialising or denying that sexual violence took place, | 0:39:19 | 0:39:23 | |
or it's about saying it wasn't really that harmful, | 0:39:23 | 0:39:27 | |
that's the kind of stuff they say. | 0:39:27 | 0:39:30 | |
I would even say there's a toxic masculinity in football | 0:39:30 | 0:39:34 | |
and they need to actually address that, they need to think about | 0:39:34 | 0:39:39 | |
what is it to be a male footballer in the 21st century. | 0:39:39 | 0:39:45 | |
Yeah. | 0:39:46 | 0:39:47 | |
Meeting Liz has made me wonder what's being taught at grass-roots level. | 0:39:49 | 0:39:54 | |
So I'm heading to a football academy in South East London | 0:39:55 | 0:39:58 | |
to see for myself. | 0:39:58 | 0:39:59 | |
98% of kids in football academies | 0:40:01 | 0:40:04 | |
fail to become professional footballers. | 0:40:04 | 0:40:07 | |
I'm on my way today to meet Baz. | 0:40:07 | 0:40:09 | |
He's a coach at Fisher Athletic Academy, | 0:40:09 | 0:40:12 | |
and I guess, like many other academies that there are all over England, | 0:40:12 | 0:40:16 | |
they're nurturing young kids to kind of be that next footballing star. | 0:40:16 | 0:40:20 | |
Football academies were set up a generation ago | 0:40:23 | 0:40:26 | |
to develop players, so what's gone wrong and what needs to change? | 0:40:26 | 0:40:31 | |
Do you know where I can find Baz? | 0:40:32 | 0:40:34 | |
-Just through there. -Oh, brilliant. | 0:40:34 | 0:40:36 | |
'I've been told Baz Baker is the guy to talk to - | 0:40:36 | 0:40:38 | |
'he's coached hundreds of young players | 0:40:38 | 0:40:41 | |
'and has also played at a professional level.' | 0:40:41 | 0:40:43 | |
I know you're busy so I won't waste your time. | 0:40:43 | 0:40:45 | |
Hi, Baz, how are you? Nice to meet you. | 0:40:45 | 0:40:47 | |
All right, not too bad, yeah. | 0:40:47 | 0:40:50 | |
'The academy trains 11-to-18-year-olds who all have big ambitions | 0:40:50 | 0:40:54 | |
'to be signed and play football as a career.' | 0:40:54 | 0:40:56 | |
What it's like training a group of under-18s? | 0:40:57 | 0:41:00 | |
You've got to get discipline, | 0:41:00 | 0:41:02 | |
there's got to be a lot of discipline | 0:41:02 | 0:41:04 | |
because, obviously, you've got a lot of testosterone flying around. | 0:41:04 | 0:41:08 | |
Would you say that your players are influenced by other players | 0:41:09 | 0:41:12 | |
-obviously who have made it? -Oh, yes, yes, yes. -Cars, money, women? | 0:41:12 | 0:41:15 | |
-Yes, yes, yes. -How do you think that affects them? | 0:41:15 | 0:41:17 | |
Well, because they want to emulate that, they want that, | 0:41:17 | 0:41:20 | |
because their goal is... they look at the top end of football | 0:41:20 | 0:41:24 | |
and they see the footballers earning loads of money, driving fast cars, | 0:41:24 | 0:41:28 | |
and these guys want to get there. | 0:41:28 | 0:41:31 | |
I'm trying to understand why footballers hit headlines | 0:41:31 | 0:41:34 | |
for the wrong reasons. | 0:41:34 | 0:41:35 | |
I say you're giving a load of money to uneducated players | 0:41:35 | 0:41:38 | |
and that's a horrible thing to say but that's basically what they do. | 0:41:38 | 0:41:42 | |
You pay someone 16, 17, 18, 19 a lot of money, he buys a fast car | 0:41:42 | 0:41:47 | |
and he's getting loads of attention because he's now a commodity. | 0:41:47 | 0:41:51 | |
Go back, come back, come back to Lewis and start again! | 0:41:51 | 0:41:54 | |
Do you think that if they made, like, for example, a law | 0:41:54 | 0:41:57 | |
where footballers had to study until the age of 21 | 0:41:57 | 0:42:01 | |
and then they could earn that, do you think that things would change maybe? | 0:42:01 | 0:42:06 | |
BAZ CHUCKLES | 0:42:06 | 0:42:07 | |
That would be good, it's meant to be that way. | 0:42:07 | 0:42:10 | |
When the academy started 20-odd years ago, | 0:42:10 | 0:42:14 | |
they were meant to take kids | 0:42:14 | 0:42:16 | |
and nurture 'em all the way through from a young age, | 0:42:16 | 0:42:19 | |
all the way till they get to the first team, but that's been lost. | 0:42:19 | 0:42:22 | |
How do you stop them getting themselves into this type of trouble? | 0:42:22 | 0:42:25 | |
I think a little bit more leadership from the FA into the clubs, | 0:42:25 | 0:42:30 | |
rather than let the clubs deal with it themselves, | 0:42:30 | 0:42:34 | |
but there's no leadership to say, "If you cross this line," | 0:42:34 | 0:42:37 | |
or, "If you breach this contract in this area, | 0:42:37 | 0:42:42 | |
"this is what's going to happen," so they don't, so nothing happens. | 0:42:42 | 0:42:46 | |
'Boys can be given multimillion pound contracts from as young as 17.' | 0:42:48 | 0:42:53 | |
Is football the ultimate goal for a lot of you and your friends? | 0:42:53 | 0:42:57 | |
-Yeah. -Yeah, definitely. | 0:42:57 | 0:42:59 | |
My whole crowd who I chill with want to become a footballer | 0:42:59 | 0:43:01 | |
so, like, when I'm in that crowd, I want to follow them, do you know what I mean? | 0:43:01 | 0:43:05 | |
Growing up from young, you want to become a footballer... | 0:43:05 | 0:43:07 | |
I'm only seeing football. Like, when I was in year 6, | 0:43:07 | 0:43:10 | |
I was thinking I'm going to be a footballer, | 0:43:10 | 0:43:12 | |
I don't have nothing else to back me up, do you know what I mean? | 0:43:12 | 0:43:14 | |
Education is just a no for me, to be honest. | 0:43:14 | 0:43:16 | |
They go from being in an academy to being signed within a day and night | 0:43:20 | 0:43:25 | |
and then, obviously, it's for coaches, agents, FA, | 0:43:25 | 0:43:30 | |
everyone wants them, everyone wants these kids | 0:43:30 | 0:43:33 | |
cos they are commodities and they make millions. | 0:43:33 | 0:43:35 | |
There's only so much that a guy like Baz can do, you know, | 0:43:37 | 0:43:40 | |
he's a coach for an academy | 0:43:40 | 0:43:42 | |
but what actually happens when these guys go into the next level | 0:43:42 | 0:43:46 | |
and the next stage? | 0:43:46 | 0:43:47 | |
Who actually guides them at that point? Who helps them out? | 0:43:47 | 0:43:51 | |
Finally, after a lot of phone calls and e-mails, | 0:44:00 | 0:44:02 | |
I have the opportunity to meet someone at the top of the game. | 0:44:02 | 0:44:06 | |
The Professional Footballers' Association | 0:44:06 | 0:44:09 | |
is one of the richest unions in the world. | 0:44:09 | 0:44:11 | |
It's set up to look after the rights of players | 0:44:11 | 0:44:14 | |
but it's also there to educate them. | 0:44:14 | 0:44:16 | |
I've arranged to meet the Deputy Chief Executive, Bobby Barnes, | 0:44:16 | 0:44:20 | |
to find out what he's doing not only to help the players | 0:44:20 | 0:44:23 | |
but also to challenge their behaviour. | 0:44:23 | 0:44:26 | |
Do you think that footballers now are earning too much money | 0:44:26 | 0:44:28 | |
-for their own good? -As an industry, | 0:44:28 | 0:44:30 | |
football is probably generating more money than it ever has | 0:44:30 | 0:44:33 | |
or probably even dreamed of. | 0:44:33 | 0:44:35 | |
Now, with the best will in the world, | 0:44:35 | 0:44:37 | |
the reasons for that money coming into the game | 0:44:37 | 0:44:40 | |
is because of the players, so I think it's only right | 0:44:40 | 0:44:42 | |
that players should get a fair share of that income. | 0:44:42 | 0:44:45 | |
So my question to you is really what do the PFA have in place | 0:44:45 | 0:44:49 | |
in order to help these young players stay in the right track? | 0:44:49 | 0:44:52 | |
It's important that we show young players that, | 0:44:52 | 0:44:55 | |
although they don't ask to be role models, | 0:44:55 | 0:44:57 | |
whether they like it or not, that position is thrust upon them. | 0:44:57 | 0:45:00 | |
I think it's important for us to provide some education | 0:45:00 | 0:45:03 | |
and to help those players to be rehabilitated | 0:45:03 | 0:45:06 | |
so they can come back and be useful citizens again | 0:45:06 | 0:45:09 | |
in the field that they're actually in. | 0:45:09 | 0:45:11 | |
We probably spend in excess of £12 million a year on education. | 0:45:11 | 0:45:16 | |
Have you noticed a change in the type of education | 0:45:16 | 0:45:18 | |
that you have to offer players? | 0:45:18 | 0:45:20 | |
Very much so. I think, certainly a few years ago, | 0:45:20 | 0:45:23 | |
it would have been very much focused purely on vocational training | 0:45:23 | 0:45:26 | |
and preparing people for a life after football, | 0:45:26 | 0:45:30 | |
that was pretty much the core. | 0:45:30 | 0:45:32 | |
As the world has changed, obviously, we have a responsibility | 0:45:32 | 0:45:35 | |
and it's important that what we actually offer | 0:45:35 | 0:45:38 | |
reflects changes in society and changes in the way our members | 0:45:38 | 0:45:43 | |
are perceived, so it's very important that we provide our members | 0:45:43 | 0:45:48 | |
with the tools as best we can to equip them to deal with | 0:45:48 | 0:45:51 | |
the challenges that they're going to have to face | 0:45:51 | 0:45:54 | |
in an ever-changing world, | 0:45:54 | 0:45:55 | |
and one that they're basically going to be exposed to scrutiny | 0:45:55 | 0:45:58 | |
more than ever before. | 0:45:58 | 0:46:00 | |
Do you think that footballers need to be challenged on how they view women? | 0:46:00 | 0:46:03 | |
We can't pretend that we've got the silver bullet | 0:46:03 | 0:46:06 | |
that's the answer to this, but what we can say is | 0:46:06 | 0:46:09 | |
that we're aware that if there is an issue that needs to be addressed, | 0:46:09 | 0:46:12 | |
we need to speak and work with the appropriate bodies that can help us | 0:46:12 | 0:46:16 | |
to help our members. | 0:46:16 | 0:46:17 | |
So far, the PFA have only committed to producing an educational video | 0:46:17 | 0:46:22 | |
that aims to tackle footballers' attitude towards consent. | 0:46:22 | 0:46:26 | |
They plan to distribute it to all major clubs. | 0:46:26 | 0:46:29 | |
After interviewing Bobby, | 0:46:30 | 0:46:31 | |
I know that the PFA do things in order to help footballers. | 0:46:31 | 0:46:34 | |
Now, I'm not sure how effective these things are | 0:46:34 | 0:46:37 | |
cos, right now, if I'm honest with you, | 0:46:37 | 0:46:40 | |
it seems like they don't actually do as much as they could do. | 0:46:40 | 0:46:43 | |
Bobby Barnes said that players are role models, | 0:46:47 | 0:46:50 | |
so what do young footballers think | 0:46:50 | 0:46:52 | |
about having that responsibility thrust upon them? | 0:46:52 | 0:46:55 | |
I've come to Peckham in South London | 0:46:55 | 0:46:57 | |
to meet a young player called Danny Haynes. | 0:46:57 | 0:47:00 | |
Danny plays for Ebbsfleet Utd, | 0:47:04 | 0:47:06 | |
but he also played for Ipswich, Bristol City, Charlton, | 0:47:06 | 0:47:10 | |
Barnsley and Notts County. | 0:47:10 | 0:47:12 | |
Although he's not in the top flight of the game, | 0:47:12 | 0:47:15 | |
I want to find out what it's like | 0:47:15 | 0:47:17 | |
when a young man starts off as a professional. | 0:47:17 | 0:47:19 | |
Peckham is quite a well-known area for quite iconic footballers. | 0:47:19 | 0:47:23 | |
Who else do you know that's been brought up around here? | 0:47:23 | 0:47:26 | |
-The two obvious is Anton Ferdinand and Rio. -OK. | 0:47:26 | 0:47:29 | |
-And then you got one that plays for Middlesbrough, Cario. -OK. | 0:47:29 | 0:47:34 | |
I seen him not too long ago driving through. | 0:47:34 | 0:47:37 | |
Why do you think a lot of footballers | 0:47:37 | 0:47:39 | |
come from a similar background? | 0:47:39 | 0:47:41 | |
It's a way out and, obviously, people love football, | 0:47:41 | 0:47:44 | |
it's England's biggest sport, so everyone does football. | 0:47:44 | 0:47:48 | |
Do footballers have to let off steam? | 0:47:50 | 0:47:53 | |
Obviously, it's an intense environment, you know, so... | 0:47:53 | 0:47:56 | |
They do have to let off steam but they got to be careful | 0:47:56 | 0:47:59 | |
when they do do it because the media will just jump all over it. | 0:47:59 | 0:48:02 | |
For me, it's hard, like, I have five brothers and sisters | 0:48:02 | 0:48:05 | |
and they're all younger, and their role models, like you, Rio, | 0:48:05 | 0:48:10 | |
all these people who are earning a lot of money, | 0:48:10 | 0:48:12 | |
but, you know, there are young ones who they also look up to | 0:48:12 | 0:48:15 | |
who are earning the same amount of money | 0:48:15 | 0:48:17 | |
but they're going absolutely... hitting headlines, doing this, doing that. | 0:48:17 | 0:48:21 | |
It's hard. At the age of 18, | 0:48:21 | 0:48:22 | |
you're expecting a child to be a role model to another child. | 0:48:22 | 0:48:26 | |
He hasn't really grown up yet so how can you put pressure on him | 0:48:26 | 0:48:30 | |
to say he's a role model because he earns this amount of money, | 0:48:30 | 0:48:33 | |
because he's good at a talent? | 0:48:33 | 0:48:35 | |
I think it's bizarre. | 0:48:35 | 0:48:37 | |
How do you think that that should be stopped? Cos... | 0:48:37 | 0:48:40 | |
I don't know how you control that or monitor it in any way. | 0:48:40 | 0:48:44 | |
I don't think you can control it, it's out of our hands. | 0:48:44 | 0:48:47 | |
The money is there in football for footballers and it's enticing young boys | 0:48:47 | 0:48:54 | |
to grow up wanting to do football so I don't think you can stop that. | 0:48:54 | 0:48:58 | |
Anyone coming from round here and you get that offer on the table, | 0:48:58 | 0:49:02 | |
you're going to snap it up with both hands. | 0:49:02 | 0:49:05 | |
As a 17-year-old, how much were you earning? | 0:49:10 | 0:49:13 | |
At 17, I was on like... £1,800 a week. | 0:49:13 | 0:49:19 | |
Would you say you had to learn the hard way | 0:49:19 | 0:49:22 | |
and quite young, which is quite a shock? | 0:49:22 | 0:49:24 | |
Yeah, I've had to learn the hard way | 0:49:24 | 0:49:27 | |
because...moving to a whole different city with whole different people, | 0:49:27 | 0:49:31 | |
you don't have your family around, | 0:49:31 | 0:49:33 | |
you have to learn the hard way, and I made plenty of mistakes. | 0:49:33 | 0:49:37 | |
Cos, remember, footballers are going in at the age of 18, 19 | 0:49:37 | 0:49:40 | |
and earning big money, and with money, | 0:49:40 | 0:49:44 | |
loads of things come with it. | 0:49:44 | 0:49:46 | |
Do you find it hard to maintain focus, | 0:49:46 | 0:49:49 | |
because obviously you have women throwing themselves at you? | 0:49:49 | 0:49:53 | |
It depends if you go out or not. | 0:49:53 | 0:49:55 | |
If you go out quite a bit and you're known for going out | 0:49:55 | 0:49:58 | |
and people obviously know you're a footballer, | 0:49:58 | 0:50:00 | |
you're going to get women throwing themselves at you | 0:50:00 | 0:50:03 | |
because they feel like it's a meal ticket. | 0:50:03 | 0:50:05 | |
Is it easy to trust women now? | 0:50:05 | 0:50:07 | |
No, it's not easy to trust women now. | 0:50:07 | 0:50:10 | |
I've got my partner now so I'm very settled | 0:50:10 | 0:50:13 | |
and I've got my children, so that's... | 0:50:13 | 0:50:17 | |
anything I do now is just for them. | 0:50:17 | 0:50:19 | |
I think I have a better understanding | 0:50:22 | 0:50:25 | |
as to why footballers hit headlines for the wrong reasons. | 0:50:25 | 0:50:28 | |
I think I know more of why, for example, someone like my dad | 0:50:28 | 0:50:31 | |
would've done something like that to my mum. | 0:50:31 | 0:50:34 | |
Maybe it's not on purpose. | 0:50:34 | 0:50:36 | |
I'm understanding things more. | 0:50:36 | 0:50:38 | |
It feels like I've come to the end of my journey | 0:50:48 | 0:50:51 | |
but there's one more chat I need to have before I finish. | 0:50:51 | 0:50:54 | |
I'm back in Madrid and on my way to see my mum. | 0:50:54 | 0:50:58 | |
I think my mum and dad actually fell in love when they were 16, 17. | 0:50:58 | 0:51:03 | |
My mum was playing basketball for a team in Norwich University | 0:51:03 | 0:51:07 | |
and my dad was also playing football. | 0:51:07 | 0:51:10 | |
My mum's gone through a lot | 0:51:12 | 0:51:14 | |
and I think she's a really strong individual | 0:51:14 | 0:51:17 | |
and, as a woman, she's shown me everything that I am. | 0:51:17 | 0:51:21 | |
My mum and dad broke up when I was two years old. | 0:51:21 | 0:51:25 | |
My dad has re-married twice but my mum has always remained single. | 0:51:25 | 0:51:31 | |
I want to ask her if she blames football culture for their divorce. | 0:51:31 | 0:51:35 | |
-Hola, Madre, how are you? -Hola. | 0:51:38 | 0:51:41 | |
-OK. -How are you? -All right. | 0:51:41 | 0:51:44 | |
-How have you been? -Very good, how have you been? | 0:51:44 | 0:51:48 | |
Busy, working hard, as always. | 0:51:48 | 0:51:51 | |
-IN SPANISH ACCENT: I've been working hard too. -Have you? | 0:51:51 | 0:51:55 | |
-Yes, come, let me show you. -What you been doing, then? | 0:51:55 | 0:51:58 | |
A lot of things, Madre. | 0:51:58 | 0:52:00 | |
Do you know Dwight Yorke? | 0:52:00 | 0:52:02 | |
His face is familiar but... | 0:52:02 | 0:52:04 | |
He has been in the press, known for, you know, | 0:52:04 | 0:52:07 | |
a lot of sexual activity with women... | 0:52:07 | 0:52:10 | |
Oh, that is unusual in footballers(!) | 0:52:10 | 0:52:12 | |
Oh, it's unusual? | 0:52:12 | 0:52:13 | |
Very unusual. | 0:52:13 | 0:52:15 | |
AMAL LAUGHS Yeah. | 0:52:15 | 0:52:17 | |
I've been speaking to a lot of people basically | 0:52:17 | 0:52:19 | |
to make this documentary and I think that I've realised a set of things - | 0:52:19 | 0:52:23 | |
football, it seems that women and sex are always attached to it. | 0:52:23 | 0:52:27 | |
From your experience, who do we blame, or what is it to blame? | 0:52:27 | 0:52:31 | |
Is it the money, the managers, the agents, the girls? | 0:52:31 | 0:52:34 | |
The fact that they are footballers? Is it football itself? What is it? | 0:52:34 | 0:52:38 | |
It's to do with education, | 0:52:38 | 0:52:40 | |
it's to do with being very young, famous and rich | 0:52:40 | 0:52:45 | |
and not have the head in the right place | 0:52:45 | 0:52:50 | |
to put everything together and handle everything. | 0:52:50 | 0:52:55 | |
All these girls, they're throwing themselves to them. | 0:52:55 | 0:52:58 | |
I mean, I've been with your dad to a nightclub after the game. | 0:52:58 | 0:53:04 | |
Girls, they will not see me, I was not there. | 0:53:04 | 0:53:08 | |
The first thing they will do is give him a kiss, hug him | 0:53:08 | 0:53:12 | |
if they can, and hold his hand and pass him a little paper | 0:53:12 | 0:53:17 | |
and I would say, "John, can I see the paper?" | 0:53:17 | 0:53:20 | |
And it was "my name is Lucy | 0:53:20 | 0:53:23 | |
"and my telephone number, please call me." | 0:53:23 | 0:53:25 | |
Yeah, so women have no self-respect. | 0:53:25 | 0:53:28 | |
Exactly, but...I will not blame them. | 0:53:28 | 0:53:32 | |
It's 50/50. | 0:53:34 | 0:53:35 | |
If someone throw themselves to them, they will go for it. | 0:53:35 | 0:53:40 | |
So it's just basically men in general. | 0:53:40 | 0:53:43 | |
Of course. | 0:53:43 | 0:53:45 | |
Do you think it's hard to have a relationship with a football player? | 0:53:45 | 0:53:49 | |
For me, at the time, when I met your dad, we were very young. | 0:53:49 | 0:53:53 | |
Your dad was 18, I was 18. | 0:53:53 | 0:53:55 | |
I trusted him, he trusted me. | 0:53:55 | 0:53:59 | |
I was in love with him, I felt that he loved me as well, | 0:53:59 | 0:54:02 | |
and what I really wanted was to have a family, happy family, | 0:54:02 | 0:54:07 | |
have babies, and he was agreeing with me at the time, | 0:54:07 | 0:54:12 | |
I mean, he was happy with that. | 0:54:12 | 0:54:14 | |
But then that's even worse, | 0:54:14 | 0:54:16 | |
because then when you do find out that he's cheated... | 0:54:16 | 0:54:20 | |
Obviously I was so naive, because I was going this way | 0:54:20 | 0:54:26 | |
and he was going another way. | 0:54:26 | 0:54:28 | |
So how did you find out? | 0:54:28 | 0:54:30 | |
I find out when someone called me | 0:54:30 | 0:54:35 | |
-and said, "Oh, have you seen the newspaper?" -Yeah. | 0:54:35 | 0:54:38 | |
And I said, "No, I haven't seen it." | 0:54:38 | 0:54:40 | |
Then they send me the newspaper | 0:54:40 | 0:54:43 | |
and I remember you were...two years old. | 0:54:43 | 0:54:48 | |
I drove you to my girlfriend's house | 0:54:48 | 0:54:51 | |
that she had the newspaper and I could not stop crying. | 0:54:51 | 0:54:56 | |
You were in the back of the car saying, "Mum, what's wrong with you?" | 0:54:56 | 0:55:00 | |
And I could not stop crying because at that point... | 0:55:00 | 0:55:06 | |
all my... | 0:55:06 | 0:55:08 | |
all that I believed, all that I worked for, my heart was broken. | 0:55:08 | 0:55:14 | |
As a child you get to know things | 0:55:17 | 0:55:19 | |
but you can never actually understand them that well. | 0:55:19 | 0:55:24 | |
Today, I found out how much pain she actually did go through. | 0:55:24 | 0:55:28 | |
It just makes me really sad and it pains me that there are | 0:55:28 | 0:55:31 | |
footballers out there still in the same type of frame of mind. | 0:55:31 | 0:55:35 | |
There's a very close link, it seems, to football and sex, you know. | 0:55:37 | 0:55:42 | |
If you are a footballer, | 0:55:43 | 0:55:45 | |
it almost seems these days that you are entitled to do certain things | 0:55:45 | 0:55:48 | |
that, realistically, you shouldn't be doing. | 0:55:48 | 0:55:51 | |
We're giving young men, | 0:55:51 | 0:55:53 | |
and most of the time uneducated young men, | 0:55:53 | 0:55:55 | |
a lot of money and a lot of power | 0:55:55 | 0:55:58 | |
and they just clearly can't handle it. | 0:55:58 | 0:56:00 | |
MUSIC: Gimme Shelter by The Rolling Stones | 0:56:00 | 0:56:04 |