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The last game of the season and our first win. I kicked the ball and it | :09:20. | :09:24. | |
went close to the corner and the post in front of me. They said to | :09:25. | :09:33. | |
me, for God's sake, go and referee or something, will you? Nigel stayed | :09:34. | :09:39. | |
with the school, taking a job as a technician and worked his way up | :09:40. | :09:42. | |
through the referee ranks. While living at home with his parents at | :09:43. | :09:49. | |
home. He was quick to learn the tricks of the trade, especially from | :09:50. | :09:56. | |
mentors. So far, the only Welsh referee of the World Cup final. The | :09:57. | :10:02. | |
earliest memories of Nigel were of a 16-year-old boy. He used to catch | :10:03. | :10:11. | |
one, two, three buses to get to the venue where he was referee. Up at | :10:12. | :10:18. | |
7am, didn't stop until about 9:30 p.m.. Dead keen. There was a referee | :10:19. | :10:25. | |
who used to wear a blazer. He said when he was a referee he used to | :10:26. | :10:29. | |
keep a whistle in his blazer pocket. By the time he put it in his mouth | :10:30. | :10:40. | |
to blow for -- blow, he would know whether or not to blow the whistle. | :10:41. | :10:44. | |
If it was up here it was too late, you would blow it. He said he always | :10:45. | :10:49. | |
kept it down though. Then by the time you brought it up you would | :10:50. | :10:55. | |
know whether or not you had to blow it. The hardest thing for a referee | :10:56. | :10:57. | |
is knowing when or not to blow it. I have the whistle OK? Somebody | :10:58. | :11:16. | |
called for the offence. Derek told me a happy referee was a good | :11:17. | :11:24. | |
referee. He said, next time don't tell them and mollycoddle them, you | :11:25. | :11:30. | |
tell them, I've asked you and now I am telling you. Do that again and | :11:31. | :11:34. | |
you are gone. I always remember that. I stated quite clearly, the | :11:35. | :11:40. | |
conditions are not an issue. The issue is with your binding. I | :11:41. | :11:43. | |
suggest you get it in order. I have asked you, now I am telling you. He | :11:44. | :11:55. | |
had a lot of 1-liners. In Wales, you are going to the same clubs every | :11:56. | :11:59. | |
Saturday, referee a lot of the same people, internationals, top-class | :12:00. | :12:04. | |
players. So you have to earn that reputation. Once players trust of | :12:05. | :12:10. | |
the referee, he is well on his way. Trust between players and referees | :12:11. | :12:14. | |
is absolutely massive. Before long, Nigel joined the company, a group of | :12:15. | :12:22. | |
senior referees. But while success soared on the pitch, offbeat his own | :12:23. | :12:29. | |
self-esteem and denial of his sexuality darkened. -- off it. | :12:30. | :12:36. | |
Worried about his weight, he did weighttraining and took steroids. | :12:37. | :12:39. | |
The biggest challenge I had was dealing with who I was. But then at | :12:40. | :12:46. | |
about 18 or 19 I was becoming different and starting to have | :12:47. | :12:50. | |
feelings for somebody of the same sex as me and this was all alien to | :12:51. | :12:55. | |
me. This is not the way I have been brought up, this is not what I know. | :12:56. | :13:00. | |
That was a very difficult time in my life. I remember doing something for | :13:01. | :13:05. | |
the first time with another guy and I felt sick and physically sick and | :13:06. | :13:12. | |
ashamed afterwards of what I have done. I was feeling with accepting | :13:13. | :13:18. | |
who I was. I was brought up in a small community and not really | :13:19. | :13:22. | |
knowing what being gay and not knowing gay people. You go back | :13:23. | :13:28. | |
20-25 years, all of a sudden this was making me depressed. It was | :13:29. | :13:34. | |
making me ill. With that I became bulimic, because I wasn't looking | :13:35. | :13:37. | |
healthy, I wasn't looking well enough to attract another man, I | :13:38. | :13:44. | |
guess. I got hooked on steroids and I couldn't come off steroids. I | :13:45. | :13:48. | |
abused steroids at one of the big side effects is it makes you | :13:49. | :13:52. | |
depressed as well and makes you short tempered. I was going downhill | :13:53. | :13:59. | |
very fast to a very dark place, where there was no way out for me at | :14:00. | :14:07. | |
one stage. I did something one night that I will regret for the rest of | :14:08. | :14:12. | |
my life. I left a note for my mum and dad and said, I can't carry on | :14:13. | :14:17. | |
any more with my life. I didn't tell them why. I left the house that | :14:18. | :14:22. | |
night with a shotgun loaded, with a couple of boxes of paracetamol and a | :14:23. | :14:28. | |
bottle of whiskey and just walked around the village. For the last | :14:29. | :14:35. | |
time. Looking back at everything, I guess. Where I had grown up and | :14:36. | :14:42. | |
spent 19 years of my life in this small, wonderful village and | :14:43. | :14:50. | |
community. Funnily enough, what I took to take my own life that might | :14:51. | :14:55. | |
actually saved me in one sense. I overdosed with paracetamol and the | :14:56. | :15:01. | |
whiskey and it put me into a coma. If I hadn't got into that coma, I | :15:02. | :15:07. | |
would have pulled the trigger of the gun without a doubt. I was found by | :15:08. | :15:13. | |
the police helicopter and when my mum and dad came into see me, I was | :15:14. | :15:19. | |
an only child as well, I remember my mum told me that night in hospital, | :15:20. | :15:24. | |
if you do anything like that again then you take me and your dad with | :15:25. | :15:27. | |
you because we don't want to live without you. I realised then what I | :15:28. | :15:36. | |
had done and I told myself, you need to grow up and you need to accept | :15:37. | :15:43. | |
who you are and that was the first big turning point in my life in | :15:44. | :15:51. | |
getting through this, you know? That's when I have to accept I was | :15:52. | :15:56. | |
different. But for the next eight years Nigel continued to keep his | :15:57. | :16:00. | |
homosexuality a secret, hiding it even from his family and friends, | :16:01. | :16:05. | |
will read what people might think, worried what would happen to his | :16:06. | :16:09. | |
blossoming career in the rugby and media, becoming a co- presenter on | :16:10. | :16:16. | |
the Jonathan Show. But he couldn't live the life forever. I wasn't | :16:17. | :16:21. | |
happy in my life because I was hiding it. I was lying who I was. I | :16:22. | :16:25. | |
was trying to live a life that I couldn't live and hiding it from | :16:26. | :16:30. | |
people. I was worried what people, mum and dad, my friends, whether | :16:31. | :16:34. | |
they would accept me. It is only one word with three letters, gay, but | :16:35. | :16:39. | |
sitting down and telling them you are gay is not easy and I told my | :16:40. | :16:45. | |
mum and she cried and I cried. Nobody is out in the macho world of | :16:46. | :16:51. | |
rugby. Am I going to be able to carry on with my referee in? Or am I | :16:52. | :16:57. | |
going to have to just tell my family and friends and you'll live a lie in | :16:58. | :17:03. | |
the public eye, in the rugby world? Or am I going to have to be who I am | :17:04. | :17:08. | |
and give up a referee in? To think that anybody has to make the | :17:09. | :17:13. | |
decision of being who you are all continuing in the sport that you | :17:14. | :17:16. | |
love is a decision that nobody should have to make, in being gay or | :17:17. | :17:24. | |
carrying on in rugby. Nobody should have to make that decision. Rave and | :17:25. | :17:30. | |
audacious, he literally came out of the closet on prime-time TV and | :17:31. | :17:33. | |
hoped for the best. I had a text of him saying that he was gay and he | :17:34. | :17:38. | |
was coming out. It didn't bother me, because a friend is a friend and it | :17:39. | :17:43. | |
is up to him what he is going to do in his own time. I said that to | :17:44. | :17:48. | |
him. I am still your friend, don't worry about it. I knew it was a | :17:49. | :17:53. | |
difficult time for him, so we tried to make light of it and said, right, | :17:54. | :17:57. | |
you're going to come out on the show. He wasn't sure at the start. I | :17:58. | :18:02. | |
said, you come out of the closet and save, I am what I am, then we won't | :18:03. | :18:07. | |
mention it and see if people catch on or not. A sickly he agreed and | :18:08. | :18:09. | |
that's what happened. When the closet opened I came out | :18:10. | :18:33. | |
and you have no idea what a feeling it was when pretty much everybody in | :18:34. | :18:39. | |
the audience stood up and applauded. Then I went to my seat and everybody | :18:40. | :18:43. | |
clapped and laughed and we got on with the show. Then the EU and those | :18:44. | :18:47. | |
came and it has been part of the show ever since. Onset, to work with | :18:48. | :18:52. | |
Nigel is fantastic. He has helped a lot of people by talking about it in | :18:53. | :18:56. | |
the way that he does. He doesn't take itself too seriously and I know | :18:57. | :19:01. | |
he gets weekly letters, e-mails, tweets, about how the way he has | :19:02. | :19:04. | |
dealt with his sexuality has helped others. That's important to | :19:05. | :19:08. | |
remember, that he has done it the right way. It was a key moment for | :19:09. | :19:15. | |
sport, not just rugby, all sport. I think it was a massive step forward | :19:16. | :19:22. | |
for him. Yes, you know, it didn't affect rugby in any way. It probably | :19:23. | :19:27. | |
made the sport closer. It encouraged other people in sport perhaps to | :19:28. | :19:33. | |
come out as well. I think a lot of people on the periphery thanked him | :19:34. | :19:36. | |
for coming out and the strength he has given those individuals. Yes, it | :19:37. | :19:40. | |
was a big step forward for rug union. I saw a more relaxed, more | :19:41. | :19:49. | |
happy referee. I think he wasn't performing as well as he is now when | :19:50. | :19:57. | |
that was in the back of his mind. I think it did help his refereeing. He | :19:58. | :20:01. | |
is a nice lad, he really is a nice lad. He is liked by a lot of | :20:02. | :20:06. | |
people, you know? Something we know is that a lot of young lesbian, gay | :20:07. | :20:12. | |
and trans people feel that sport is something that is not for them and | :20:13. | :20:15. | |
they might not be safe there, that it's not somewhere that will be | :20:16. | :20:19. | |
accepting and I think the importance of people like Nigel is that they | :20:20. | :20:23. | |
show those young people that sport is a place for anyone. Referee is by | :20:24. | :20:29. | |
nature are open to abuse from the crowd. So if you come out as the gay | :20:30. | :20:34. | |
referee, you're putting yourself in a position where anything could | :20:35. | :20:40. | |
happen. And it hasn't. And I think he has been the catalyst, the one | :20:41. | :20:44. | |
person who has exhilarated all sport towards the point where if you find | :20:45. | :20:49. | |
out that somebody is gay you just go, so what? But some fans still | :20:50. | :20:57. | |
hurl homophobic abuse, which Nigel has had to tackle. English rugby | :20:58. | :21:01. | |
bosses have launched an investigation after Welsh referee | :21:02. | :21:05. | |
Nigel Owens was allegedly subjected to homophobic abuse. One supporter | :21:06. | :21:11. | |
from Yorkshire reported the behaviour to the Rugby Football | :21:12. | :21:14. | |
Union and brokered the guardian. He said he couldn't believe that a | :21:15. | :21:18. | |
bunch of men were hurling such nasty, foulmouthed, racist and | :21:19. | :21:22. | |
homophobic abuse and he said it made him feel ashamed. It does hurt when | :21:23. | :21:26. | |
you hear those things and it is in the papers and the press. And, you | :21:27. | :21:31. | |
know, people are phoning you up, can you comment on this? You think, do I | :21:32. | :21:35. | |
really need to go through all of this again? But then knowing that it | :21:36. | :21:43. | |
helps stamp it out and knowing that it helps encourage people to stand | :21:44. | :21:46. | |
up and speak out against this type of abuse, because those are the | :21:47. | :21:50. | |
people who make a difference. The people who make a difference other | :21:51. | :21:55. | |
in the stadium who wrote that letter that day to the paper, who stood up | :21:56. | :21:58. | |
and told people, this is not acceptable. People sent in letters | :21:59. | :22:03. | |
afterwards and said they heard this. Those other people, the true heroes, | :22:04. | :22:08. | |
who really make the difference in stamping out abuse, that shouldn't | :22:09. | :22:18. | |
be a part of sport or society. Nigel now finds himself lauded like never | :22:19. | :22:20. | |
before on the rugby circuit. Despite being a globetrotting sports | :22:21. | :23:15. | |
star, Nigel hasn't moved from home and likes nothing down returning to | :23:16. | :23:21. | |
his village to be with his family friends and community. He wears his | :23:22. | :23:28. | |
Welshness with pride has been recognised for it. Swapping the | :23:29. | :23:31. | |
rugby shirt for the green down, Nigel welcomed today with writers, | :23:32. | :23:37. | |
poets, musicians and others, honoured for their contribution to | :23:38. | :23:43. | |
Welsh life. He is proud to speak Welsh whenever he can, even when | :23:44. | :23:46. | |
disciplining players on the pitch. He doesn't mind speaking English and | :23:47. | :23:56. | |
Welsh and we have had a banter on the field in both languages. But he | :23:57. | :24:01. | |
is far too sharp for me. I never answer back because, when it comes | :24:02. | :24:04. | |
to banter, you don't mess with Nigel. He is a big lover of the | :24:05. | :24:09. | |
Welsh language and speaks to other players in Welsh. And when you've | :24:10. | :24:17. | |
got Samoans, Fijians and others playing, they don't have a clue what | :24:18. | :24:21. | |
he's talking about and we have to telling off this occasionally. With | :24:22. | :24:25. | |
his new celebrity status, Nigel was spurred on to write a book, laying | :24:26. | :24:29. | |
bare the inner turmoil he suffered and how he battled through. The | :24:30. | :24:33. | |
launch at a rugby club in 2008 was the last time his mother was able to | :24:34. | :24:38. | |
leave the house. She died of cancer a couple of months later. It is | :24:39. | :24:42. | |
unbelievable. They had to turn people away. People couldn't get | :24:43. | :24:48. | |
into the club. Mum was there and she told me afterwards it meant a lot to | :24:49. | :24:53. | |
her, knowing... I had just come out of the year before. It had been a | :24:54. | :24:56. | |
difficult time for them and me. It was like she knew, OK, I can leave | :24:57. | :25:02. | |
this world now knowing that people respect him and accept him for who | :25:03. | :25:09. | |
he is. I lost a massive part of my life that night. That's when I lost | :25:10. | :25:16. | |
my mum and every time when I lined up now at an international game I | :25:17. | :25:24. | |
always, wherever the home countries, whenever they sing anthem, just for | :25:25. | :25:29. | |
ten seconds or so I look up into the sky and just think about her. I did | :25:30. | :25:33. | |
about her all the time and I look at the sky and just think about her for | :25:34. | :25:36. | |
those ten seconds. Today, Nigel, at the age of 44, is | :25:37. | :25:56. | |
the most senior referee on the international circuit, with 60 caps | :25:57. | :26:02. | |
going into his third World Cup. He keeps his body fit and his mind as | :26:03. | :26:06. | |
calm as possible. For every game he listens to the same Welsh hymn. | :26:07. | :26:15. | |
SONG PLAYS. But, despite his experience, international matches | :26:16. | :26:28. | |
don't get any easier. Especially at the scrum and breakdown. The key | :26:29. | :26:33. | |
area of the game is the breakdown. You have to referee that well. If | :26:34. | :26:36. | |
you do that then the game looks after itself, plus you have more | :26:37. | :26:41. | |
breakdowns and tackles in the game than any other phase. That's where | :26:42. | :26:44. | |
the continuity of the game comes from. You have so much to look for | :26:45. | :26:51. | |
in that split second. Players run off their feet, sticking their hands | :26:52. | :26:53. | |
where they shouldn't. There's negativity. You have to deal with | :26:54. | :26:58. | |
it. You can deal with it, do know? Whereas the scrum, if the scrum | :26:59. | :27:04. | |
becomes a total mess, both sides collapse. There's not much you can | :27:05. | :27:09. | |
do about that. The only thing you can do is penalised them and give | :27:10. | :27:12. | |
them a yellow card. When they come back on if they stay up there and | :27:13. | :27:19. | |
you have done your job. It is difficult to referee, but you can | :27:20. | :27:22. | |
sort it out if it needs it. Back at the World Cup, Nigel displays | :27:23. | :27:28. | |
exceptional refereeing, letting play continue while talking to his | :27:29. | :27:31. | |
television official about it possible dangerous tackle. Let's | :27:32. | :27:42. | |
have a look! It was. Hi. OK. Nigel is now at the pinnacle of his | :27:43. | :27:45. | |
powers. Whether this is his last World Cup, who knows? What is | :27:46. | :27:51. | |
certain, he has helped bring rugby and sport into the 21st century. He | :27:52. | :27:58. | |
is top bracket. He is of the very best in an age where referee | :27:59. | :28:05. | |
standards are going up quickly. He is a pioneer in the age of | :28:06. | :28:10. | |
professional refereeing on many fronts and he has helped push back | :28:11. | :28:16. | |
the boundaries of officiating at just the right moments, because the | :28:17. | :28:20. | |
game needs to be very carefully controlled. There is a sort of | :28:21. | :28:25. | |
universal truth about rugby, it's a simple game, but it's a very | :28:26. | :28:33. | |
difficult game to referee well. Rugby union is not only the greatest | :28:34. | :28:38. | |
team sport in the world on the field, but without a shard of a | :28:39. | :28:41. | |
doubt is the greatest team sport in the world off the field, because if | :28:42. | :28:46. | |
it wasn't for rugby union than the players, spectators, the communities | :28:47. | :28:51. | |
of rugby, I could never be who I am today. I certainly wouldn't be going | :28:52. | :28:54. | |
to the World Cup to referee. That's for sure. | :28:55. | :29:07. | |
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