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In the ring, I subconsciously go to a different place. My mind goes elsewhere. | 0:00:05 | 0:00:08 | |
I've had a couple of people come up to me afterwards and say, "You're absolutely terrifying." | 0:00:08 | 0:00:11 | |
White collar boxing is sort of something that people organise | 0:00:14 | 0:00:17 | |
in a private way so they can have a scrap. | 0:00:17 | 0:00:18 | |
A bit like a drug. | 0:00:18 | 0:00:20 | |
Once you've done it once, you want to do it again and again and again. | 0:00:20 | 0:00:23 | |
His opponent facing him across the ring here tonight. | 0:00:23 | 0:00:26 | |
-Please welcome into the ring... -BELL RINGS | 0:00:26 | 0:00:29 | |
Every night of the week, | 0:00:29 | 0:00:31 | |
including Sundays, there's white-collar shows going around. | 0:00:31 | 0:00:34 | |
It's just exploded. Everybody's getting on the scene. | 0:00:34 | 0:00:38 | |
Doctors, lawyers, city bods, dealers. | 0:00:38 | 0:00:43 | |
I'm an estate agent. | 0:00:43 | 0:00:44 | |
I'm a financial analyst. | 0:00:44 | 0:00:46 | |
Men's ego, young men's ego. | 0:00:46 | 0:00:49 | |
It's like they go out and have a drink and they want to fight. | 0:00:49 | 0:00:53 | |
This is it, that is the house. | 0:00:53 | 0:00:55 | |
He's a typical estate agent who likes to be a bit big about stuff | 0:00:55 | 0:00:58 | |
when he doesn't need to be and looks a bit silly. | 0:00:58 | 0:01:01 | |
To be fair, though, I am competitive | 0:01:01 | 0:01:03 | |
about pretty much everything as well. | 0:01:03 | 0:01:04 | |
There is no pride and glory without the pain to go with it. | 0:01:06 | 0:01:09 | |
I'm going for a knockout. | 0:01:09 | 0:01:10 | |
I work in central London, in prime central London. | 0:01:28 | 0:01:30 | |
My title is head of lettings. | 0:01:30 | 0:01:32 | |
You come to town and you say, "I'm looking for, I don't know, | 0:01:32 | 0:01:35 | |
"a five-bedroom house, it's got to be within this perimeter, | 0:01:35 | 0:01:38 | |
"it's got to have a Jacuzzi and a helipad. Here's our budget." | 0:01:38 | 0:01:40 | |
We'll go and we'll help you find whatever it is you're looking for. | 0:01:40 | 0:01:45 | |
I work for an estate agency currently, in property management. | 0:01:45 | 0:01:50 | |
First month, I was the best negotiator in my office. | 0:01:50 | 0:01:53 | |
Second month, I was the top negotiator in the entire company. | 0:01:53 | 0:01:56 | |
In my second month. And I'd never done negotiating in my life. | 0:01:56 | 0:01:59 | |
There is always going to be an element of stress. | 0:01:59 | 0:02:01 | |
There's always going to be an element of pressure. | 0:02:01 | 0:02:03 | |
It's a tough job, it really is, | 0:02:03 | 0:02:04 | |
and you've got to find a way of letting your hair down. | 0:02:04 | 0:02:07 | |
You'll burn out otherwise. | 0:02:07 | 0:02:08 | |
SHOUTING | 0:02:13 | 0:02:15 | |
Josh is probably... | 0:02:16 | 0:02:20 | |
I see him as a person who has been given quite a lot. | 0:02:20 | 0:02:22 | |
Obviously his parents and family are well-to-do. | 0:02:22 | 0:02:25 | |
How do I feel when I think of Challon? | 0:02:26 | 0:02:29 | |
It's a mixed bag of emotions. | 0:02:29 | 0:02:31 | |
We started off with a quite warm friendship. | 0:02:32 | 0:02:35 | |
We trained together, we worked together in the gym. | 0:02:35 | 0:02:38 | |
Arrogant... | 0:02:38 | 0:02:40 | |
selfish... | 0:02:40 | 0:02:41 | |
boring, really. | 0:02:41 | 0:02:44 | |
He claims that his shoulder popped out of its socket | 0:02:46 | 0:02:48 | |
but watching those videos back, | 0:02:48 | 0:02:50 | |
and I've watched them from three or four different angles, | 0:02:50 | 0:02:52 | |
I've watched them hundreds of times, you can see that it didn't come out. | 0:02:52 | 0:02:57 | |
I think the reason why he cares so much is because he knows he | 0:02:59 | 0:03:01 | |
didn't win. If he is going round bad-mouthing me, saying, | 0:03:01 | 0:03:04 | |
"He didn't dislocate his shoulder, he knew he was losing," | 0:03:04 | 0:03:06 | |
that's complete and utter trash. | 0:03:06 | 0:03:09 | |
It could be any number of things. It could be that he got into | 0:03:09 | 0:03:11 | |
the ring and there was a huge amount of pressure on him, | 0:03:11 | 0:03:13 | |
huge amount of stress, which could happen to anybody. | 0:03:13 | 0:03:15 | |
What do you do in that situation? | 0:03:15 | 0:03:17 | |
Do you turn round to the ref and say, "I'm done"? | 0:03:17 | 0:03:19 | |
Do you get your corner lad to throw in the towel? | 0:03:19 | 0:03:22 | |
Or do you injure yourself, or fake an injury? What would you do? | 0:03:22 | 0:03:27 | |
It's a difficult one to call. | 0:03:27 | 0:03:29 | |
I mean, I'd be lying if I said I wasn't nervous. | 0:03:34 | 0:03:36 | |
I put out the challenge to him and I said to him, you know, | 0:03:36 | 0:03:38 | |
"Come down, let's have a rematch." He's accepted. | 0:03:38 | 0:03:41 | |
You know, you've got to give him credit for that. | 0:03:41 | 0:03:43 | |
You know, this isn't what we do day-to-day. | 0:03:43 | 0:03:45 | |
I said to myself if I ever turned up on session and I saw him there, | 0:03:45 | 0:03:48 | |
I'd turn around and walk out because, to be honest, we probably | 0:03:48 | 0:03:51 | |
wouldn't even make it to the fight on 17 November. | 0:03:51 | 0:03:55 | |
-Oh, you're here. How are you doing? -Yeah, yeah. Good. Good. Good. | 0:03:58 | 0:04:02 | |
Your friend's over there, by the way. | 0:04:02 | 0:04:05 | |
-Sure. -Yeah? | 0:04:06 | 0:04:08 | |
-Go for it. -Thank you. | 0:04:10 | 0:04:11 | |
So he's stood there, I'm stood on the other side. | 0:04:11 | 0:04:13 | |
I keep thinking in the back of my mind, I keep thinking, | 0:04:13 | 0:04:16 | |
"Has he see me? Should I say something? | 0:04:16 | 0:04:18 | |
"Shouldn't I say something?" It's a weird situation to be in. | 0:04:18 | 0:04:21 | |
You can hold a grudge against someone. | 0:04:24 | 0:04:26 | |
Maybe they pissed you off or said something behind your back | 0:04:26 | 0:04:28 | |
or whatever. But it's a completely different thing. | 0:04:28 | 0:04:30 | |
You've physically fought this person and you've got | 0:04:30 | 0:04:33 | |
a grudge against them to a degree which is insurmountable. | 0:04:33 | 0:04:36 | |
You can't really compare it to anything because it was | 0:04:36 | 0:04:38 | |
a fight which never finished. | 0:04:38 | 0:04:40 | |
He just walked in. You guys were filming. | 0:04:43 | 0:04:45 | |
He annoyed me a little bit. He acted very arrogant. | 0:04:45 | 0:04:47 | |
He didn't even look at me when speaking to me. | 0:04:47 | 0:04:49 | |
And he said, "I hope you're ready this time," | 0:04:49 | 0:04:51 | |
and just carried himself | 0:04:51 | 0:04:53 | |
in a completely different way to how he used to. | 0:04:53 | 0:04:56 | |
Just thinking he's a princess fighter now, which... | 0:04:56 | 0:04:59 | |
Princess is right. | 0:04:59 | 0:05:01 | |
That's about it. | 0:05:01 | 0:05:02 | |
If anything, I want it more. | 0:05:02 | 0:05:05 | |
I want it more now. Definitely. Yeah. | 0:05:05 | 0:05:09 | |
Yeah, there was anger. There was anger. | 0:05:09 | 0:05:11 | |
The first white-collar show, | 0:05:14 | 0:05:16 | |
it was all between the American man in the money market | 0:05:16 | 0:05:19 | |
and a dealer here. | 0:05:19 | 0:05:20 | |
So much blood, it's disgusting. | 0:05:24 | 0:05:26 | |
Their job is nothing to do with physicality and then they're | 0:05:27 | 0:05:30 | |
suddenly trying to prove themselves in physicality | 0:05:30 | 0:05:33 | |
in front of all their friends. | 0:05:33 | 0:05:35 | |
White-collar fighting is a different breed of fighters. | 0:05:35 | 0:05:38 | |
If he's bigger than you, bring him in close. | 0:05:42 | 0:05:45 | |
It is stronger than you | 0:05:45 | 0:05:46 | |
then you keep your distance and you fucking hit him hard. | 0:05:46 | 0:05:49 | |
It's that element of danger. | 0:05:51 | 0:05:55 | |
-INTERVIEWER: Would you do it again? -Fuck no. | 0:05:55 | 0:05:58 | |
Yeah, they want to be mini celebrities, don't they? | 0:05:59 | 0:06:03 | |
They go there and they all pat them on the back, | 0:06:03 | 0:06:05 | |
"Oh, great night the other night." | 0:06:05 | 0:06:08 | |
He's got all the girls in the office, you know. | 0:06:08 | 0:06:10 | |
Like a little bit of... star status, isn't it, you know? | 0:06:10 | 0:06:15 | |
'..EE voice mail. | 0:06:21 | 0:06:22 | |
'I'm sorry but the person you've called isn't available. | 0:06:22 | 0:06:25 | |
'Please leave your message after the tone.' | 0:06:25 | 0:06:28 | |
Hi, Challon. Good morning. I'm not impressed. | 0:06:28 | 0:06:31 | |
It's 10:30 and you're not at training. | 0:06:31 | 0:06:34 | |
Can you please give me a call back as soon as you get this message | 0:06:34 | 0:06:37 | |
and let me know what's going on? Thanks. | 0:06:37 | 0:06:41 | |
Challon's meant to be here today and we've only got X amount of | 0:06:41 | 0:06:44 | |
weeks to do it so we've got to try and cram in as much as we can. | 0:06:44 | 0:06:47 | |
Well, it's taking the piss, basically. | 0:06:47 | 0:06:49 | |
I left the actual house party at about, I think, 12. | 0:06:51 | 0:06:55 | |
I left everyone there and went to bed with the intention of | 0:06:55 | 0:06:57 | |
going to training. I woke up at, like, nine, I was like... | 0:06:57 | 0:07:01 | |
Ergh... Nah. Nah. | 0:07:01 | 0:07:03 | |
So that's where the commitment and motivation is failing | 0:07:03 | 0:07:06 | |
a little bit on Sundays. | 0:07:06 | 0:07:08 | |
It's been a really, really tough week. | 0:07:11 | 0:07:13 | |
Got a couple of deals in, which was good. | 0:07:13 | 0:07:15 | |
Come on, Josh. Come on, Lloyd. Come on. | 0:07:15 | 0:07:17 | |
Change here, go home, have something to eat, | 0:07:17 | 0:07:19 | |
get an early night, wake up, | 0:07:19 | 0:07:21 | |
probably go for a run first thing if I can, | 0:07:21 | 0:07:23 | |
and then, yeah, straight to work. | 0:07:23 | 0:07:24 | |
Again, gym bag with me, come straight from work to here. | 0:07:24 | 0:07:28 | |
Do the same thing again. | 0:07:28 | 0:07:29 | |
That was my progression photo, so that was a year's difference. | 0:07:37 | 0:07:41 | |
So, I had a couple of extra pounds on me. | 0:07:41 | 0:07:44 | |
Um... | 0:07:44 | 0:07:45 | |
I mean, it was a hell of a journey, going through all that, but, um, | 0:07:45 | 0:07:48 | |
I think I dropped most of the weight in my hair, by the looks of it. | 0:07:48 | 0:07:52 | |
I've invited 146 people. | 0:07:52 | 0:07:53 | |
It'll be the main fight. | 0:07:53 | 0:07:55 | |
Couldn't get more white-collar than that. | 0:07:57 | 0:07:59 | |
KNOCK AT DOOR | 0:07:59 | 0:08:01 | |
-Hello! -Hi, you all right? | 0:08:01 | 0:08:04 | |
-Do you want tea? -Coffee, please. | 0:08:04 | 0:08:07 | |
Did it look like he'd dislocated his shoulder, from outside the room? | 0:08:07 | 0:08:10 | |
-Well... If somebody sort of goes like that... -Mm. | 0:08:10 | 0:08:13 | |
..it kind of looks like it. | 0:08:13 | 0:08:14 | |
You don't know. You can't tell. | 0:08:14 | 0:08:16 | |
It's impossible to tell - especially if someone's been hitting you. | 0:08:16 | 0:08:19 | |
-Yeah, yeah. -It would appear that way, yes. | 0:08:19 | 0:08:22 | |
It looked like that. | 0:08:22 | 0:08:23 | |
You can tell me if he dislocated his shoulder. | 0:08:23 | 0:08:25 | |
FIGHT PLAYS ON PHONE | 0:08:25 | 0:08:28 | |
The thing is, with Josh, everything in life has to be fair - | 0:08:30 | 0:08:33 | |
from a little boy, everything had to be fair, | 0:08:33 | 0:08:36 | |
and I think that he felt, | 0:08:36 | 0:08:38 | |
because he hadn't, perhaps, beaten this chap to a pulp, | 0:08:38 | 0:08:41 | |
perhaps he felt like he hadn't really won properly. | 0:08:41 | 0:08:46 | |
'Come on, Josh!' | 0:08:46 | 0:08:48 | |
-Who was that?! -Louis. | 0:08:48 | 0:08:50 | |
He came home one day home one day, | 0:08:51 | 0:08:52 | |
he was black and blue all over his face. | 0:08:52 | 0:08:55 | |
I mean, somebody had hit him in the eye, and the mouth, | 0:08:55 | 0:08:58 | |
and - I mean, how do you explain that when you go to work? | 0:08:58 | 0:09:01 | |
-I think it was one hit in the nose. -No, no, no, it was more than that. | 0:09:01 | 0:09:03 | |
I don't like seeing him do things like that. | 0:09:03 | 0:09:07 | |
It's worrying. | 0:09:07 | 0:09:08 | |
-It's like a... It's a rooftop bar, it's really nice. -Yeah? -Yeah. | 0:09:08 | 0:09:12 | |
There's always that notion in the back of your mind, | 0:09:12 | 0:09:14 | |
you know, something could go wrong. | 0:09:14 | 0:09:16 | |
All it takes is one wrong slip, you know. | 0:09:16 | 0:09:18 | |
You walk into a punch too quickly. | 0:09:18 | 0:09:20 | |
Or he clocks you with a right too high - | 0:09:20 | 0:09:22 | |
all it takes is that one punch. | 0:09:22 | 0:09:24 | |
There is obvious concern that, you know, at the same time, | 0:09:25 | 0:09:28 | |
it's that motto, and that way of life, you know, | 0:09:28 | 0:09:30 | |
there is no pride and glory without the pain to go with it. | 0:09:30 | 0:09:33 | |
One of the issues thrown up | 0:09:37 | 0:09:39 | |
is this idea of the sort of darker side of the sport, if you like. | 0:09:39 | 0:09:43 | |
The area which is unregulated. | 0:09:43 | 0:09:45 | |
I wrote a blog in 2013 on white-collar boxing - | 0:09:47 | 0:09:49 | |
what you should know before you sign up to box, because I saw these guys | 0:09:49 | 0:09:53 | |
getting involved in these events, and being mis-sold these packages, | 0:09:53 | 0:09:56 | |
and getting themselves into something | 0:09:56 | 0:09:59 | |
they didn't really understand. | 0:09:59 | 0:10:00 | |
Oh, lovely! Yeah! | 0:10:01 | 0:10:03 | |
Yeah! | 0:10:03 | 0:10:04 | |
You'd like to think that in the UK, | 0:10:09 | 0:10:11 | |
you'd assume that if you signed up for a boxing show, | 0:10:11 | 0:10:13 | |
and the boxing event was being run, particularly, at a licensed bar, | 0:10:13 | 0:10:16 | |
that it would be reputable, it would be controlled | 0:10:16 | 0:10:18 | |
and it'd be under provisions - | 0:10:18 | 0:10:19 | |
and the reality is, a lot of these shows, it's not. | 0:10:19 | 0:10:22 | |
There is no overall body regulating them, | 0:10:22 | 0:10:25 | |
and this is a problem we've got. | 0:10:25 | 0:10:26 | |
It's got the potential to spiral out of control, | 0:10:26 | 0:10:29 | |
and the risk is someone will get hurt or killed. | 0:10:29 | 0:10:31 | |
The reality is, boxing, on any level, boxing is a sport, | 0:10:33 | 0:10:36 | |
and it is an art form - but it's also primal, and it's a fight, | 0:10:36 | 0:10:40 | |
and if you think, in front of a thousand people, | 0:10:40 | 0:10:43 | |
someone's not going to try and jump all over you when they hurt you, | 0:10:43 | 0:10:46 | |
you're very, very mistaken. | 0:10:46 | 0:10:48 | |
Pure intention of taking Joshua's head off. | 0:10:56 | 0:10:58 | |
It will come to fruition. | 0:10:58 | 0:11:00 | |
No issue whatsoever. Commitment on point. | 0:11:00 | 0:11:04 | |
That's better. | 0:11:04 | 0:11:06 | |
Good session. Seeing it was just me, | 0:11:17 | 0:11:19 | |
it's a lot more attention just on me. | 0:11:19 | 0:11:22 | |
We will get somebody in and work on his shoulders, | 0:11:24 | 0:11:27 | |
and make sure that the shoulder is right before the night. | 0:11:27 | 0:11:30 | |
So, that shouldn't be a problem. | 0:11:30 | 0:11:32 | |
Do you think he's further ahead than Josh? | 0:11:35 | 0:11:37 | |
-Yeah. -Mm. So do I. | 0:11:37 | 0:11:39 | |
-In fitness, I do think he's further than Josh. -So do I. | 0:11:39 | 0:11:42 | |
Going to get his head. Play some games. | 0:11:42 | 0:11:44 | |
Seeing that he wanted to walk in nice and arrogant | 0:11:44 | 0:11:47 | |
to our little weigh-in the other week, see how he handles it. | 0:11:47 | 0:11:52 | |
See if he's man enough to take a bit of shit | 0:11:52 | 0:11:54 | |
from The Northern Assassin. | 0:11:54 | 0:11:57 | |
We shall fuckin' see! | 0:11:57 | 0:11:58 | |
Come on, come on - show me you want to beat him. | 0:12:04 | 0:12:05 | |
Show me you want to beat him. Hit that bag. | 0:12:05 | 0:12:08 | |
Come on, come on - snap it, snap it. | 0:12:08 | 0:12:10 | |
Harder! Boom! | 0:12:10 | 0:12:12 | |
It's coming up real quick. | 0:12:12 | 0:12:14 | |
I think this is properly going to be the last session I've got. | 0:12:14 | 0:12:17 | |
After that, no more. | 0:12:17 | 0:12:19 | |
We know, from the first fight, what we did wrong. | 0:12:26 | 0:12:29 | |
This time, definitely throw some punches. | 0:12:29 | 0:12:31 | |
The first fight, he never threw enough punches. | 0:12:31 | 0:12:33 | |
He was trying to defend too much. | 0:12:33 | 0:12:35 | |
-Why are you putting yourself through it? -I'm in it to win. -Exactly. | 0:12:35 | 0:12:39 | |
-What do you want it for? -For me. -Exactly. | 0:12:39 | 0:12:42 | |
This is not fucking about. This is reality now. Yeah? | 0:12:42 | 0:12:46 | |
-Yeah. -OK? | 0:12:46 | 0:12:47 | |
Yeah? Yeah? | 0:12:47 | 0:12:48 | |
OK, jump out. | 0:12:49 | 0:12:51 | |
-Have you been thinking about this weigh-in at all today? -Yeah. | 0:12:56 | 0:12:59 | |
Yeah, a little bit - cos as I say, you know, | 0:12:59 | 0:13:00 | |
it's the first time I'm going to see Challon. | 0:13:00 | 0:13:02 | |
It is now 10 past... 5 past 7. | 0:13:10 | 0:13:13 | |
We've got the weigh-ins today. | 0:13:13 | 0:13:15 | |
All of the boxers, bar a few, are going to be coming down. | 0:13:16 | 0:13:19 | |
Strip! | 0:13:24 | 0:13:26 | |
I knew this bit was coming. | 0:13:26 | 0:13:27 | |
He was supposed to be here at 7:00, it's now 8:05, | 0:13:28 | 0:13:30 | |
and he still hasn't arrived. | 0:13:30 | 0:13:32 | |
Jim, I think, usually closes about nine o'clock, so... He's not here. | 0:13:32 | 0:13:36 | |
So, can only hope that he does turn up at some point. | 0:13:36 | 0:13:39 | |
Challon, hi, it's Tony. | 0:13:41 | 0:13:43 | |
Look, I discovered your text - I need to speak to you. | 0:13:43 | 0:13:46 | |
I don't want to text you and all that sort of stuff. | 0:13:46 | 0:13:50 | |
Give me a call and we can just find out what we're going to do | 0:13:50 | 0:13:52 | |
and how we're going to do it. | 0:13:52 | 0:13:54 | |
So, I just got a text from Challon, | 0:13:54 | 0:13:55 | |
basically saying that he's going to be pulling out. | 0:13:55 | 0:13:58 | |
To be fair, right now, I think is a first prize dickhead, | 0:13:58 | 0:14:01 | |
if I'm honest. | 0:14:01 | 0:14:02 | |
Right now, if he came here, and he came here, | 0:14:02 | 0:14:04 | |
I probably taken in the ring myself. | 0:14:04 | 0:14:06 | |
It's the night before the fight, and it's... | 0:14:12 | 0:14:15 | |
four in the morning... | 0:14:15 | 0:14:17 | |
and I can't sleep. | 0:14:17 | 0:14:18 | |
So, not exactly going to be very well rested for this, unfortunately. | 0:14:19 | 0:14:23 | |
-Challon here yet? -No, he's not here yet. | 0:14:30 | 0:14:33 | |
Challon. Have you seen him? | 0:14:33 | 0:14:35 | |
-Challon not turned up yet, no? -Not yet. -Are you expecting him to? -Yeah. | 0:14:35 | 0:14:38 | |
Yeah? | 0:14:38 | 0:14:39 | |
Challon's not turning up. He's not coming. | 0:14:56 | 0:14:59 | |
Um... So, I've got another fight, but... | 0:14:59 | 0:15:03 | |
It's, um... | 0:15:03 | 0:15:04 | |
It's not what I trained for. | 0:15:06 | 0:15:07 | |
This is what I've been saying since day one - | 0:15:11 | 0:15:12 | |
the whole point is to fight Challon. | 0:15:12 | 0:15:14 | |
All of this is based around fighting Challon. | 0:15:14 | 0:15:16 | |
I just didn't want to fight. | 0:15:19 | 0:15:21 | |
I just wasn't in it. My heart wasn't in it at all. My head wasn't in it. | 0:15:21 | 0:15:24 | |
I couldn't give two damns about Josh. | 0:15:24 | 0:15:27 | |
I could not care less if he trained for two years and I dropped out. | 0:15:27 | 0:15:31 | |
I was afraid to get in the ring, I wasn't afraid of losing. | 0:15:31 | 0:15:34 | |
I just did not want to do it. | 0:15:34 | 0:15:36 | |
It's not over until it's over. | 0:15:41 | 0:15:42 | |
-Yeah, yeah. -Yeah? | 0:15:42 | 0:15:44 | |
Well, he may turn up. You don't know. | 0:15:44 | 0:15:45 | |
He may turn up. And if he does, what's your view? | 0:15:45 | 0:15:47 | |
-If he does turn up any time, you want to? -I still want to, yes. | 0:15:47 | 0:15:50 | |
He's here? | 0:15:58 | 0:15:59 | |
I kept flitting from between that aspect, and then... | 0:16:10 | 0:16:13 | |
"Oh, but I could fight him. I want to fight him." | 0:16:13 | 0:16:16 | |
I'm a complicated one when it comes to that sort of crap. | 0:16:19 | 0:16:22 | |
Is this fight happening? | 0:16:22 | 0:16:24 | |
-I'll leave that to you. -He's doing a medical at the moment. | 0:16:24 | 0:16:26 | |
At least now we know we've got a fight. | 0:16:29 | 0:16:31 | |
'Cracking fight, ladies and gentlemen. | 0:16:31 | 0:16:33 | |
'Get behind your fighters.' | 0:16:33 | 0:16:35 | |
Left one. | 0:16:43 | 0:16:44 | |
That's better. | 0:16:44 | 0:16:47 | |
'This is the fight of the night, ladies and gentlemen.' | 0:16:47 | 0:16:50 | |
The entire time we were stood in that holding area, | 0:16:51 | 0:16:54 | |
he did not look at me once. | 0:16:54 | 0:16:55 | |
He didn't look at me until he was stood in front of me in the ring, | 0:16:55 | 0:16:58 | |
when, obviously, the cameras were on, and he had to look hard. | 0:16:58 | 0:17:03 | |
He's dropped his bollock already, today, yeah? | 0:17:03 | 0:17:05 | |
-So, he's obviously, he's quite fragile and this man, yeah? -Yeah. | 0:17:05 | 0:17:08 | |
So, first round, keep your garden nice and tight, yet? | 0:17:08 | 0:17:10 | |
Don't let him come onto you. Just throw fucking punches, Josh. | 0:17:10 | 0:17:13 | |
I could hear the other coach, of his, say, "Oh, he's bottled it. | 0:17:13 | 0:17:17 | |
He's bottled it. He's already bottled it." | 0:17:17 | 0:17:19 | |
It was clear that Josh then thought I HAD bottled it, | 0:17:19 | 0:17:23 | |
that I didn't want to be there. | 0:17:23 | 0:17:25 | |
At that point, I was ready to be there. | 0:17:25 | 0:17:27 | |
'Make some noise for Challon The Assassin. | 0:17:27 | 0:17:31 | |
'Fighting in the red corner, Josh The Bull.' | 0:17:34 | 0:17:40 | |
Everything which you been training for for three months | 0:17:40 | 0:17:43 | |
all boiled down to this one moment, you know, and it's indescribable. | 0:17:43 | 0:17:48 | |
-'Round one!' -BELL DINGS | 0:17:48 | 0:17:50 | |
Oh, fuckin' hell! Get hm! | 0:17:59 | 0:18:01 | |
Now, stand up, stand up, stand. Stand up, stand up - relax. | 0:18:03 | 0:18:06 | |
Relax, give me your hand. Pull it up. How is it? | 0:18:06 | 0:18:09 | |
When his shoulder went at the beginning of the first, | 0:18:09 | 0:18:11 | |
I was very worried it is going to get called. | 0:18:11 | 0:18:13 | |
I could see the disappointment in his eyes, as well. | 0:18:13 | 0:18:15 | |
Pull it. Fucking pull it. | 0:18:15 | 0:18:18 | |
Ow! Not that fuckin' hard, man! | 0:18:18 | 0:18:20 | |
Bullshit! | 0:18:20 | 0:18:21 | |
No, no, no, wait - calm down. | 0:18:21 | 0:18:23 | |
All that toing and froing, all the training, for me and for Josh, | 0:18:23 | 0:18:27 | |
and it went in less than, what? | 0:18:27 | 0:18:29 | |
Five seconds. Maybe ten if you're lucky. | 0:18:29 | 0:18:32 | |
That's just ridiculous. | 0:18:32 | 0:18:33 | |
No-one's shoulder should do that - | 0:18:33 | 0:18:35 | |
especially not mine, when I've been training, as well. | 0:18:35 | 0:18:37 | |
The referee was saying to me, "Are you going to continue?" | 0:18:42 | 0:18:44 | |
And what went through your mind? | 0:18:44 | 0:18:46 | |
"Yeah, he's going to continue." | 0:18:46 | 0:18:48 | |
Josh, Josh! | 0:18:50 | 0:18:51 | |
Move in, Josh! Move in. | 0:18:56 | 0:19:00 | |
Come on, Josh! Jab, one, two. | 0:19:00 | 0:19:02 | |
Jab and right hand, Josh. Jab and right hand. | 0:19:02 | 0:19:05 | |
Circle the other way, Josh. Too wide! | 0:19:05 | 0:19:08 | |
I wouldn't say he's a shit fighter... | 0:19:08 | 0:19:10 | |
but he's not a fighter. | 0:19:10 | 0:19:12 | |
He lacks the mobility and the athletic ability | 0:19:12 | 0:19:16 | |
to be able to do that sort of stuff. | 0:19:16 | 0:19:18 | |
I'd beat him at any sport. | 0:19:18 | 0:19:20 | |
Apart from netball. I can't play netball. | 0:19:23 | 0:19:24 | |
I hate netball. | 0:19:24 | 0:19:25 | |
You've got to throw some more punches, yeah? | 0:19:25 | 0:19:28 | |
Because he's fighting with one arm, Josh. Yeah? | 0:19:28 | 0:19:31 | |
And the thing is, the referees going to be looking at this, yeah? | 0:19:31 | 0:19:35 | |
He's throwing two and three punches with the one hand, yeah? | 0:19:35 | 0:19:38 | |
Come on, Josh! | 0:19:39 | 0:19:40 | |
Throw, Josh! Throw, Josh! Come on! | 0:19:45 | 0:19:48 | |
BELL DINGS | 0:19:48 | 0:19:50 | |
'Great battle, lads. Well done, both of you. | 0:19:51 | 0:19:54 | |
'We have a winner - and the winner is... | 0:19:57 | 0:19:59 | |
'the blue corner! | 0:19:59 | 0:20:01 | |
'Well done, lads, both of you. Cracking fight to end the night...' | 0:20:02 | 0:20:05 | |
I knew I'd won. | 0:20:05 | 0:20:07 | |
At one point, before the referee put my arm up, | 0:20:07 | 0:20:09 | |
as did raise my right on my left arm, going, "Yeah, mine." | 0:20:09 | 0:20:13 | |
This intense ten weeks - or two months, three months, | 0:20:34 | 0:20:37 | |
however long it lasted for - | 0:20:37 | 0:20:38 | |
of training, very, very intense training, | 0:20:38 | 0:20:40 | |
was, like, that was just over. | 0:20:40 | 0:20:42 | |
Do you have any injuries? | 0:20:42 | 0:20:44 | |
No, none. | 0:20:44 | 0:20:46 | |
Um... | 0:20:46 | 0:20:48 | |
Pride, maybe. Nothing else! | 0:20:48 | 0:20:50 | |
No physical injuries, anyway. | 0:20:50 | 0:20:51 | |
I'm not 100% convinced I did give it everything that I have. | 0:20:52 | 0:20:55 | |
Again, I'd like to think that I did, | 0:20:55 | 0:20:56 | |
but there's always that little bit in the back of my mind, | 0:20:56 | 0:20:59 | |
because I lost, thinking, "Did I really give everything that I had?" | 0:20:59 | 0:21:03 | |
Do you feel that you took it too seriously? | 0:21:04 | 0:21:06 | |
I don't think so, you know, | 0:21:06 | 0:21:08 | |
everybody approaches things differently, don't they? | 0:21:08 | 0:21:11 | |
So, I mean, for me, it's 100% or 0%, you know? | 0:21:11 | 0:21:15 | |
There's no point doing something half-arsed. Um... | 0:21:15 | 0:21:19 | |
Otherwise, why bother? | 0:21:19 | 0:21:20 | |
I lost to a nine-year-old girl in the British Championships. | 0:21:23 | 0:21:26 | |
She was nine. | 0:21:26 | 0:21:27 | |
She beat me. | 0:21:29 | 0:21:30 | |
I did not like that. | 0:21:30 | 0:21:32 | |
So, yes. Everyone loses. | 0:21:32 | 0:21:34 | |
Back to work, you know? Back to the everyday. | 0:21:36 | 0:21:40 |