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This is one of the most spectacular | 0:00:09 | 0:00:11 | |
and beautiful countries in the world. | 0:00:11 | 0:00:13 | |
I'm on a journey around Colombia. | 0:00:16 | 0:00:18 | |
Just look down there, it's so remote and so rugged. | 0:00:20 | 0:00:23 | |
For more than 50 years it's been gripped by brutal conflict. | 0:00:24 | 0:00:28 | |
Incoming, incoming. A war often fuelled by the global drugs trade. | 0:00:30 | 0:00:34 | |
This is coca, the base for cocaine. | 0:00:34 | 0:00:38 | |
But now, there's a chance for peace in Colombia. | 0:00:38 | 0:00:41 | |
We'll be the example for the whole planet. | 0:00:46 | 0:00:51 | |
So I'm going deep into the jungle... | 0:00:51 | 0:00:53 | |
Goodness me. | 0:00:53 | 0:00:55 | |
..to meet the guerrilla army promising to lay down its weapons | 0:00:55 | 0:00:58 | |
and show remorse for atrocities. | 0:00:58 | 0:01:00 | |
There must be moments in the conflict | 0:01:00 | 0:01:03 | |
that keep you awake at night now, surely? | 0:01:03 | 0:01:06 | |
No. No. | 0:01:06 | 0:01:08 | |
I'll meet the narco farmers who say they know how to save the country. | 0:01:09 | 0:01:14 | |
This is one of the largest ever gatherings of coca growers. | 0:01:14 | 0:01:19 | |
As I try to find out if, finally, peace really can come to Colombia. | 0:01:23 | 0:01:28 | |
I got off to a good start in the Rosario Islands, | 0:01:45 | 0:01:49 | |
a stunning archipelago of tropical islands in the north of Colombia. | 0:01:49 | 0:01:53 | |
Isn't this glorious? | 0:01:53 | 0:01:55 | |
People don't generally think of Colombia | 0:01:55 | 0:01:57 | |
as having a Caribbean coastline, | 0:01:57 | 0:02:00 | |
but it does and it's spectacular. | 0:02:00 | 0:02:03 | |
Hard to believe that for years, decades, | 0:02:06 | 0:02:09 | |
Colombia had a reputation as a violent, no-go area. | 0:02:09 | 0:02:13 | |
This is a country people generally associate with cocaine and conflict, | 0:02:13 | 0:02:18 | |
but there is so much more to Colombia than that. | 0:02:18 | 0:02:22 | |
Most of the tourists who come to places like this are Colombian, | 0:02:22 | 0:02:25 | |
but the rest of the world is starting to wake up | 0:02:25 | 0:02:27 | |
to the charms of this country. | 0:02:27 | 0:02:30 | |
Things are changing here. | 0:02:30 | 0:02:32 | |
The islands are dotted with private holiday homes | 0:02:35 | 0:02:38 | |
and some exclusive boutique hotels. | 0:02:38 | 0:02:41 | |
They're a destination of choice for Colombia's elite. | 0:02:41 | 0:02:45 | |
But they do also offer a glimpse into the country's murky history. | 0:02:45 | 0:02:48 | |
Many of the houses were owned by drug barons, | 0:02:51 | 0:02:54 | |
people like Pablo Escobar, | 0:02:54 | 0:02:56 | |
who was the head of the Medellin cartel. | 0:02:56 | 0:02:59 | |
This is what drug money can buy you. | 0:03:05 | 0:03:07 | |
An enormous mansion, a mansion for entertaining, actually. | 0:03:09 | 0:03:14 | |
That's the thought that strikes me. | 0:03:14 | 0:03:15 | |
For decades, powerful drug cartels dominated much of this country. | 0:03:17 | 0:03:22 | |
Fighting the state, the people and each other. | 0:03:22 | 0:03:25 | |
They killed thousands. | 0:03:25 | 0:03:27 | |
The drugs trade also helped fuel Colombia's brutal civil conflict, | 0:03:28 | 0:03:32 | |
a war lasting more than five decades between the government | 0:03:32 | 0:03:36 | |
and a powerful guerrilla army called the Farc. | 0:03:36 | 0:03:38 | |
It's all very nice here, | 0:03:38 | 0:03:40 | |
but for generations much of this country was out of control. | 0:03:40 | 0:03:44 | |
At one point, | 0:03:44 | 0:03:45 | |
it looked like Colombia might even become a failed state. | 0:03:45 | 0:03:48 | |
This is the Colombian mainland. | 0:04:02 | 0:04:04 | |
We're about to land in the city of Cartagena. | 0:04:04 | 0:04:07 | |
I'm arriving at a really critical moment | 0:04:09 | 0:04:11 | |
in the history of this country, a really exciting time. | 0:04:11 | 0:04:15 | |
There has been conflict in this country for decades, | 0:04:15 | 0:04:18 | |
terrible conflict, almost a civil war, | 0:04:18 | 0:04:21 | |
and now, hopefully, finally, that could be coming to an end. | 0:04:21 | 0:04:25 | |
Could be, but it's not certain. | 0:04:30 | 0:04:32 | |
If peace comes, it could transform the country. | 0:04:32 | 0:04:35 | |
Take the travel industry. | 0:04:35 | 0:04:37 | |
Most people here are local. | 0:04:37 | 0:04:39 | |
Colombia can make billions more from international tourism. | 0:04:39 | 0:04:42 | |
I met up with a local tour guide called Lina | 0:04:42 | 0:04:45 | |
on one of Cartagena's many beaches. | 0:04:45 | 0:04:48 | |
It's rather lovely here, Lina. This is rather... | 0:04:48 | 0:04:52 | |
It's rather fun. | 0:04:52 | 0:04:53 | |
Cartagena played its own role in the peace process. | 0:05:20 | 0:05:23 | |
Just a few months ago, something monumental happened right here. | 0:05:40 | 0:05:45 | |
A stage was set up for the president of Colombia | 0:05:46 | 0:05:49 | |
and the leader of the Farc guerrilla group, | 0:05:49 | 0:05:52 | |
terrorist organisation as many Colombians would see it, | 0:05:52 | 0:05:55 | |
for them to sign a peace deal, ending decades of war in Colombia. | 0:05:55 | 0:06:00 | |
It's been a terrible conflict. | 0:06:02 | 0:06:05 | |
More than 200,000 people have been killed. | 0:06:05 | 0:06:08 | |
Millions of Colombians have been displaced from their homes, | 0:06:08 | 0:06:11 | |
turned into refugees in their own country, | 0:06:11 | 0:06:14 | |
and it was supposed to end here with a peace deal | 0:06:14 | 0:06:16 | |
signed by the president and the leader of Farc | 0:06:16 | 0:06:19 | |
with a pen fashioned from an old bullet. | 0:06:19 | 0:06:22 | |
It was a historic event and the rest of the world was delighted. | 0:06:24 | 0:06:29 | |
It seemed the longest-running conflict in the Western hemisphere | 0:06:29 | 0:06:33 | |
was finally over. | 0:06:33 | 0:06:35 | |
But in Colombia, the deal was hugely controversial. | 0:06:35 | 0:06:38 | |
Many thought it was too soft on the Marxist revolutionary group Farc. | 0:06:38 | 0:06:43 | |
The deal was put to a referendum and the public narrowly voted no. | 0:06:43 | 0:06:48 | |
After political wrangling, an amended deal was put in place, | 0:06:50 | 0:06:54 | |
but the vote showed that peace can't be guaranteed, | 0:06:54 | 0:06:57 | |
even, perhaps especially, | 0:06:57 | 0:06:59 | |
when so many Colombians have been victims of the war. | 0:06:59 | 0:07:02 | |
Is it fair to say that almost everybody in this country | 0:07:03 | 0:07:07 | |
has been touched by the conflict | 0:07:07 | 0:07:09 | |
that has affected Colombia for decades? | 0:07:09 | 0:07:12 | |
How are you involved with or affected by the conflict? | 0:07:23 | 0:07:27 | |
Lina got involved with Farc | 0:07:32 | 0:07:34 | |
after following in love with a guerrilla fighter. | 0:07:34 | 0:07:37 | |
But their relationship lasted just two years. | 0:07:38 | 0:07:41 | |
Do you know what happened to him? | 0:07:47 | 0:07:49 | |
Lina and her boyfriend had tried to leave the Farc. | 0:08:06 | 0:08:10 | |
The group's punishment for desertion was often death. | 0:08:10 | 0:08:14 | |
Lina's partner was one of an estimated 100,000 Colombians | 0:08:17 | 0:08:21 | |
who have vanished without a trace during the conflict, | 0:08:21 | 0:08:24 | |
at the hands of the guerrillas, the government, gangs, soldiers, | 0:08:24 | 0:08:28 | |
the police. The violence here has been extraordinary. | 0:08:28 | 0:08:32 | |
I travelled to the capital city Bogota. | 0:08:40 | 0:08:42 | |
Conflict has driven more than seven million Colombians from their homes. | 0:08:54 | 0:08:59 | |
They've been forced to become refugees within their own country. | 0:08:59 | 0:09:02 | |
Colombia has more internally displaced people | 0:09:03 | 0:09:06 | |
than anywhere else in the world. | 0:09:06 | 0:09:09 | |
Hundreds of thousands have fled from remote rural areas | 0:09:09 | 0:09:11 | |
to the big cities. | 0:09:11 | 0:09:13 | |
THEY SPEAK SPANISH | 0:09:17 | 0:09:22 | |
Simon. | 0:09:22 | 0:09:23 | |
Luz was forced off her land at the height of the conflict. | 0:09:23 | 0:09:27 | |
She and her friends are all victims of the war | 0:09:30 | 0:09:33 | |
and life as a refugee here is a real struggle. | 0:09:33 | 0:09:36 | |
What are you doing here, ladies? | 0:09:36 | 0:09:38 | |
SHE SINGS | 0:09:49 | 0:09:51 | |
You're warming it up there. She's warming it up, I can tell. | 0:09:57 | 0:10:00 | |
Oh, it's getting louder. | 0:10:00 | 0:10:02 | |
THEY SING | 0:10:04 | 0:10:08 | |
They've good lungs on them, I'll tell you. | 0:10:18 | 0:10:20 | |
Success. | 0:10:53 | 0:10:55 | |
A lot of people have come to the windows actually and smiled | 0:10:55 | 0:10:58 | |
and said, "Sorry, we haven't got any at the moment," but... | 0:10:58 | 0:11:01 | |
you can see this is a community that feels a connection with them | 0:11:01 | 0:11:05 | |
and they have a connection with the community. | 0:11:05 | 0:11:07 | |
Baby clothes. | 0:11:15 | 0:11:17 | |
There's always need for those. | 0:11:19 | 0:11:20 | |
Look at that. | 0:11:23 | 0:11:25 | |
Whoa! | 0:11:25 | 0:11:27 | |
Tiny! Are you happy with that, Luz? | 0:11:27 | 0:11:30 | |
Luz and her friends use these donations to clothe their families. | 0:11:37 | 0:11:41 | |
What they don't need they sell to help other victims of the conflict | 0:11:44 | 0:11:47 | |
who are still arriving in the capital. | 0:11:47 | 0:11:49 | |
Can you actually make a living from selling on the clothes? | 0:11:51 | 0:11:54 | |
Luz originally comes from one of the poorest | 0:12:38 | 0:12:41 | |
and most remote regions of the country. | 0:12:41 | 0:12:43 | |
Luz, how do you come to be in Bogota? | 0:12:45 | 0:12:47 | |
Who did this? | 0:14:38 | 0:14:39 | |
Thank you so much for meeting with us | 0:15:02 | 0:15:04 | |
and for sharing such a very difficult story with us. | 0:15:04 | 0:15:09 | |
What you've been through is utterly horrific. | 0:15:09 | 0:15:11 | |
You've suffered so much. | 0:15:13 | 0:15:15 | |
Are you for or against the peace deal? | 0:15:15 | 0:15:19 | |
Are you hopeful for the future? | 0:15:29 | 0:15:30 | |
It was humbling meeting Luz. | 0:15:54 | 0:15:56 | |
Like so many of those who have suffered the most here, | 0:15:56 | 0:15:59 | |
she supports reconciliation, | 0:15:59 | 0:16:01 | |
even with the group said to be responsible for her suffering. | 0:16:01 | 0:16:04 | |
It was time for me to meet the Farc. | 0:16:07 | 0:16:09 | |
I travelled south. | 0:16:09 | 0:16:11 | |
Colombia is a vast country, the size of Spain and France combined. | 0:16:12 | 0:16:17 | |
Huge areas are covered by mountains, forest and jungle. | 0:16:17 | 0:16:20 | |
We really are in the middle of nowhere out here. | 0:16:21 | 0:16:23 | |
For decades there has been very little Colombian government involvement | 0:16:23 | 0:16:27 | |
or even interest in areas like this, | 0:16:27 | 0:16:30 | |
and that's created a vacuum which the Farc has filled. | 0:16:30 | 0:16:33 | |
Farc was formed in the 1960s to battle for the rural poor. | 0:16:37 | 0:16:41 | |
At the time, life here was medieval, | 0:16:42 | 0:16:44 | |
with poor farmers treated as little more than serfs | 0:16:44 | 0:16:47 | |
by a small number of brutal, wealthy landowners. | 0:16:47 | 0:16:51 | |
Farc captured huge swathes of Colombia | 0:16:51 | 0:16:52 | |
and became the effective government, | 0:16:52 | 0:16:55 | |
building basic roads, schools and hospitals. | 0:16:55 | 0:16:57 | |
I was heading to one of the last Farc jungle camps. | 0:16:58 | 0:17:02 | |
I think we're just approaching the small village now | 0:17:02 | 0:17:05 | |
where we're going to meet up with some people from the Farc | 0:17:05 | 0:17:08 | |
and they're going to take us from here to the camp. | 0:17:08 | 0:17:11 | |
Over decades, | 0:17:11 | 0:17:13 | |
Farc mutated from freedom fighters into an often criminal army | 0:17:13 | 0:17:16 | |
funded by cocaine, extortion and hundreds of kidnappings. | 0:17:16 | 0:17:20 | |
Hundreds of thousands of Colombians were caught up in fighting between | 0:17:31 | 0:17:34 | |
Farc and the Colombian Army, which also committed appalling atrocities, | 0:17:34 | 0:17:39 | |
including the mass killing of innocent civilians. | 0:17:39 | 0:17:41 | |
There's a motorcyclist up ahead of us | 0:17:47 | 0:17:49 | |
and we're following him to the Farc camp. | 0:17:49 | 0:17:52 | |
The camp? Here we are, this is it. Look. | 0:18:06 | 0:18:10 | |
This is it. | 0:18:11 | 0:18:13 | |
Bloody hell. | 0:18:25 | 0:18:27 | |
This is it. The Farc camp. | 0:18:27 | 0:18:30 | |
As part of the peace process, | 0:18:41 | 0:18:43 | |
Farc has agreed to demobilise and give up its weapons, | 0:18:43 | 0:18:46 | |
but these guerrillas were still well armed. | 0:18:46 | 0:18:48 | |
We have to remember that thousands of people were taken captive | 0:18:55 | 0:18:59 | |
and held hostage by the Farc, many of them in places like this. | 0:18:59 | 0:19:05 | |
One of the most famous, or infamous, | 0:19:05 | 0:19:07 | |
captives describes how she was held for six years in this area | 0:19:07 | 0:19:12 | |
and she spent much of that time chained... | 0:19:12 | 0:19:15 | |
to a tree with a metal ring around her neck. | 0:19:15 | 0:19:18 | |
So, perhaps, that helps explain why I, for one, | 0:19:22 | 0:19:24 | |
feel a little bit funny and apprehensive about being here. | 0:19:24 | 0:19:26 | |
During the worst period of conflict in Colombia, | 0:19:31 | 0:19:34 | |
someone was being kidnapped on average every eight hours. | 0:19:34 | 0:19:38 | |
At times, more than a thousand people were being held | 0:19:38 | 0:19:40 | |
by different armed groups. | 0:19:40 | 0:19:42 | |
Thankfully, Farc's now halted ransom kidnappings. | 0:19:42 | 0:19:45 | |
I'd been promised a chance to meet a Farc commander... | 0:19:48 | 0:19:51 | |
but after a 12-hour journey, it was time to bed down for the night. | 0:19:51 | 0:19:55 | |
It turned out I was meeting one of the most senior leaders of Farc. | 0:20:08 | 0:20:12 | |
A man involved with peace negotiations at the highest level. | 0:20:13 | 0:20:17 | |
Mauricio Jaramillo is known as El Medico, or The Doctor. | 0:20:20 | 0:20:25 | |
The peace agreement between the state and Farc | 0:20:25 | 0:20:28 | |
is complicated and controversial. | 0:20:28 | 0:20:30 | |
In return for laying down weapons, | 0:20:30 | 0:20:33 | |
Farc commanders like The Doctor could be allowed to enter politics, | 0:20:33 | 0:20:37 | |
but first, commanders thought to have been responsible for atrocities | 0:20:37 | 0:20:41 | |
will need to testify before a special court. | 0:20:41 | 0:20:43 | |
If they confess their crimes | 0:20:45 | 0:20:46 | |
they won't have to serve prison sentences. | 0:20:46 | 0:20:49 | |
As part of the peace process, as an organisation and as individuals, | 0:20:50 | 0:20:56 | |
you're going to have to atone for crimes. | 0:20:56 | 0:21:00 | |
What did Farc get wrong, what's the worst things that you've done? | 0:21:01 | 0:21:04 | |
That's very open of you. | 0:21:24 | 0:21:26 | |
And what about you personally? | 0:21:26 | 0:21:28 | |
What will you need to atone for? | 0:21:29 | 0:21:31 | |
What are the worst things that you've done | 0:21:31 | 0:21:34 | |
or ordered to be done during this struggle? | 0:21:34 | 0:21:36 | |
There must be moments in the conflict | 0:22:04 | 0:22:08 | |
where you've ordered something to happen | 0:22:08 | 0:22:10 | |
that keeps you awake at night now, surely? | 0:22:10 | 0:22:13 | |
No. No. | 0:22:15 | 0:22:18 | |
You're taking off in a helicopter? | 0:23:19 | 0:23:21 | |
Where are you going? | 0:23:22 | 0:23:24 | |
Commander, gracias. | 0:23:26 | 0:23:27 | |
I'd been warned he might need to leave. | 0:23:28 | 0:23:31 | |
The peace process was fragile, | 0:23:31 | 0:23:33 | |
and it turned out The Doctor was being taken for more secret talks | 0:23:33 | 0:23:36 | |
with other Farc commanders and the government. | 0:23:36 | 0:23:38 | |
Commander, can we just...? Sorry. | 0:23:40 | 0:23:43 | |
What would you say, what happens...? | 0:23:43 | 0:23:47 | |
What happens if the peace process fails? | 0:23:47 | 0:23:49 | |
Will Farc go back to war? | 0:23:52 | 0:23:53 | |
Ending a conflict can require tricky compromises. | 0:24:35 | 0:24:38 | |
This man was seen as the leader of a terrorist group. | 0:24:38 | 0:24:41 | |
Now, as part of the peace deal, | 0:24:41 | 0:24:43 | |
Farc will be given ten seats in the Colombian Congress. | 0:24:43 | 0:24:47 | |
The Doctor could one day be in government. | 0:24:47 | 0:24:49 | |
It's less clear what will happen to the thousands of Farc guerrillas. | 0:24:55 | 0:25:00 | |
Many grew up in the group | 0:25:00 | 0:25:01 | |
and have known nothing but jungle warfare their entire adult lives. | 0:25:01 | 0:25:05 | |
They'll need jobs, | 0:25:05 | 0:25:06 | |
and the government has promised land reforms, | 0:25:06 | 0:25:09 | |
in which many displaced Colombians and the rural poor | 0:25:09 | 0:25:12 | |
will be given land they can farm. | 0:25:12 | 0:25:14 | |
These guerrillas hope they'll also benefit. | 0:25:14 | 0:25:17 | |
What's going on here? | 0:25:17 | 0:25:18 | |
Farc has done terrible things. | 0:26:05 | 0:26:08 | |
But many of these guerrillas originally joined to battle | 0:26:08 | 0:26:11 | |
for land rights for poor rural farmers. | 0:26:11 | 0:26:14 | |
Land and the ownership of it is central to the conflict in Colombia. | 0:26:15 | 0:26:19 | |
This is a country where a few ludicrously wealthy families | 0:26:21 | 0:26:24 | |
have always owned most of the best farmland. | 0:26:24 | 0:26:26 | |
For all their sins, | 0:26:29 | 0:26:30 | |
Farc has insisted the situation has to change. | 0:26:30 | 0:26:33 | |
We want peace. | 0:26:35 | 0:26:36 | |
Let us hope they find it, eh? | 0:26:38 | 0:26:40 | |
At the height of the conflict, | 0:26:56 | 0:26:58 | |
Farc was one of the richest guerrilla armies in the world, | 0:26:58 | 0:27:01 | |
for one very key reason. | 0:27:01 | 0:27:03 | |
Look at this. We just stopped at the side of the road, | 0:27:09 | 0:27:13 | |
I really wanted to show you this. | 0:27:13 | 0:27:16 | |
If there's anything that's at the root | 0:27:16 | 0:27:19 | |
of most of Colombia's problems, it's this. | 0:27:19 | 0:27:23 | |
This harmless looking plant. | 0:27:23 | 0:27:25 | |
This is coca, the base for cocaine. | 0:27:25 | 0:27:30 | |
For years now, | 0:27:31 | 0:27:32 | |
Farc has controlled most of the best land in this country | 0:27:32 | 0:27:38 | |
for growing coca. | 0:27:38 | 0:27:39 | |
It has helped to finance the conflict. | 0:27:39 | 0:27:42 | |
As part of the peace process, | 0:27:43 | 0:27:45 | |
Farc have promised they are going to completely withdraw from the drugs trade. | 0:27:45 | 0:27:50 | |
But the risk, of course, is that as they withdraw, | 0:27:50 | 0:27:52 | |
that creates a vacuum, | 0:27:52 | 0:27:54 | |
and incredibly violent drugs gangs will then seek to try | 0:27:54 | 0:27:58 | |
and take over and control the land, | 0:27:58 | 0:28:01 | |
the areas of this country that were previously controlled by the Farc. | 0:28:01 | 0:28:05 | |
Colombia is the biggest producer of cocaine in the world. | 0:28:09 | 0:28:13 | |
It is a trade worth billions every year. | 0:28:13 | 0:28:16 | |
I drove west to Buenaventura, on Colombia's Pacific coast. | 0:28:17 | 0:28:21 | |
It's a major port, and a hub for drug smuggling to the US. | 0:28:21 | 0:28:25 | |
It's not just the left-wing Farc that's made money from drugs | 0:28:29 | 0:28:33 | |
or kidnapped and killed. | 0:28:33 | 0:28:35 | |
Other armed groups are also to blame for the state of Colombia. | 0:28:35 | 0:28:39 | |
Here in Buenaventura, | 0:28:42 | 0:28:44 | |
it has been right-wing paramilitary groups and criminal gangs. | 0:28:44 | 0:28:47 | |
The paramilitaries have been central to Colombia's Civil War. | 0:28:48 | 0:28:52 | |
So, there are areas of this city that it's not advised to visit | 0:28:59 | 0:29:03 | |
without some serious armed support. | 0:29:03 | 0:29:05 | |
This city used to be a battleground between the left-wing Farc guerrilla | 0:29:17 | 0:29:22 | |
or terrorist group, and right-wing paramilitary groups. | 0:29:22 | 0:29:27 | |
The paramilitary groups now seem to have driven the guerrillas | 0:29:28 | 0:29:31 | |
out of the town. In the process, | 0:29:31 | 0:29:33 | |
they have committed some of the most extraordinary acts of violence | 0:29:33 | 0:29:37 | |
this country's seen. | 0:29:37 | 0:29:39 | |
Colombia's right-wing paramilitary groups emerged as an opposition to | 0:29:39 | 0:29:44 | |
the left-wing Farc. | 0:29:44 | 0:29:46 | |
They were funded by wealthy businessmen, landowners, | 0:29:46 | 0:29:49 | |
even international corporations, and had close ties to the army, | 0:29:49 | 0:29:52 | |
politicians and the drug cartels. | 0:29:52 | 0:29:54 | |
The paramilitaries killed anyone fighting for the rights of rural peasants, | 0:29:57 | 0:30:00 | |
including trade unionists and human rights workers. | 0:30:00 | 0:30:05 | |
Just to be absolutely clear, | 0:30:05 | 0:30:07 | |
studies have shown the right-wing paramilitary groups | 0:30:07 | 0:30:10 | |
killed many more people than Farc. | 0:30:10 | 0:30:11 | |
20-year-old Christian grew up in Buenaventura | 0:30:13 | 0:30:16 | |
and witnessed the violence. | 0:30:16 | 0:30:17 | |
What is a chop house? | 0:30:26 | 0:30:28 | |
Can you describe to us what was here? | 0:30:47 | 0:30:50 | |
Who was doing this? | 0:31:20 | 0:31:22 | |
Cristian, what on earth was it like to hear those sounds at night? | 0:31:42 | 0:31:46 | |
Cristian, this looks like a very poor area. | 0:32:10 | 0:32:13 | |
Do people here feel forgotten? Do they feel ignored? | 0:32:13 | 0:32:16 | |
Cristian now helps young people at risk of recruitment by gangs | 0:32:36 | 0:32:40 | |
through a charity called Foundation Pro-Peace. | 0:32:40 | 0:32:44 | |
Cristian, thank you so very much. | 0:32:46 | 0:32:48 | |
Good luck, all right? We wish you all the very best for the future. | 0:32:52 | 0:32:54 | |
Many of the right-wing paramilitary groups have mutated into criminal gangs. | 0:33:04 | 0:33:09 | |
They are now a major source of human rights abuses | 0:33:09 | 0:33:12 | |
and violence across Colombia. | 0:33:12 | 0:33:14 | |
Fighting over drugs, land, | 0:33:14 | 0:33:16 | |
and another massive source of illegal revenue - gold. | 0:33:16 | 0:33:20 | |
Gracias. | 0:33:22 | 0:33:23 | |
I was off on a mission with the Colombian Army. | 0:33:30 | 0:33:32 | |
Just look down there. It's so remote and so rugged. | 0:34:07 | 0:34:09 | |
It's incredibly hard for the authorities to control these areas | 0:34:09 | 0:34:14 | |
of the country and operate in. | 0:34:14 | 0:34:16 | |
I want to know, how serious a problem is illegal gold mining? | 0:34:18 | 0:34:22 | |
The army formed this anti-illegal gold mining brigade | 0:34:36 | 0:34:40 | |
to tackle what's been called a national emergency. | 0:34:40 | 0:34:42 | |
There are an estimated 17,000 illegal gold mines across Colombia, | 0:34:44 | 0:34:49 | |
controlled by armed groups that are believed to earn nearly | 0:34:49 | 0:34:52 | |
£2 billion a year from the trade. | 0:34:52 | 0:34:55 | |
Colonel Luque's squad was on a mission | 0:34:58 | 0:35:00 | |
to destroy an illegal mining complex | 0:35:00 | 0:35:01 | |
in a remote region near the Caribbean coast. | 0:35:01 | 0:35:04 | |
They've come in with their weapons ready cos they're not sure what | 0:35:17 | 0:35:19 | |
sort of reaction they're going to get from the people who are mining | 0:35:19 | 0:35:22 | |
or the gangs controlling them. I'm going to go with them now. | 0:35:22 | 0:35:24 | |
There was no sign of the armed gangs that run the mine, | 0:35:41 | 0:35:45 | |
but the soldiers had nabbed some local men working at the site. | 0:35:45 | 0:35:48 | |
Colonel, who are these people? | 0:35:53 | 0:35:55 | |
The miners pollute rivers | 0:36:04 | 0:36:06 | |
with mercury they used to extract the gold | 0:36:06 | 0:36:08 | |
and clear huge areas of forest. | 0:36:08 | 0:36:10 | |
Illegal gold mining is actually one of | 0:36:11 | 0:36:13 | |
the main drivers of deforestation in Colombia. | 0:36:13 | 0:36:16 | |
Colonel Luque and his men move fast | 0:36:22 | 0:36:25 | |
before there's any chance of a counterattack. | 0:36:25 | 0:36:27 | |
Gracias. | 0:36:36 | 0:36:38 | |
They're asking us to clear the area | 0:36:41 | 0:36:42 | |
because they're going to blow up the equipment. | 0:36:42 | 0:36:44 | |
Apparently the reason they need to blow them up is because | 0:36:46 | 0:36:49 | |
if they try to take these diggers out the armed gangs who have | 0:36:49 | 0:36:51 | |
owned them up to now could fight them to take them back. | 0:36:51 | 0:36:54 | |
HE SPEAKS SPANISH | 0:37:00 | 0:37:02 | |
Bloody hell! | 0:37:07 | 0:37:09 | |
Incoming, incoming. | 0:37:11 | 0:37:12 | |
Bloody hell! | 0:37:15 | 0:37:16 | |
A huge bit of the digger flew into the air | 0:37:16 | 0:37:19 | |
and landed just 20 feet from us, I would say. | 0:37:19 | 0:37:21 | |
Around 80% of gold production in Colombia is illegal. | 0:37:23 | 0:37:27 | |
It's a growing problem across South America. | 0:37:28 | 0:37:31 | |
There are thought to be perhaps 50,000 people working | 0:37:31 | 0:37:34 | |
on illegal mines in Colombia | 0:37:34 | 0:37:36 | |
and more than 70,000 in the Brazilian Amazon. | 0:37:36 | 0:37:40 | |
The gangs behind this are fantastically rich | 0:37:40 | 0:37:44 | |
and fantastically dangerous. | 0:37:44 | 0:37:46 | |
They have enormous resources. | 0:37:47 | 0:37:49 | |
They can move an expensive pump, very expensive diggers, | 0:37:49 | 0:37:54 | |
into the middle of nowhere and strip it bare, | 0:37:54 | 0:37:58 | |
and they will battle and fight to protect that. | 0:37:58 | 0:38:01 | |
The problems facing Colombia can sometimes feel overwhelming. | 0:38:05 | 0:38:09 | |
Drugs, conflict, guerrillas, gangs, even illegal gold mining. | 0:38:10 | 0:38:14 | |
But there are not just hopeful signs here, | 0:38:25 | 0:38:28 | |
there's proof that change is possible. | 0:38:28 | 0:38:30 | |
I was heading to the city of Medellin. | 0:38:35 | 0:38:37 | |
It was once one of the most notorious cities in the world. | 0:38:41 | 0:38:44 | |
But it's gone through a miraculous transformation. | 0:38:46 | 0:38:49 | |
Two decades ago, drugs, violence and crime were out of control here. | 0:38:50 | 0:38:55 | |
There were more than 6,000 murders a year | 0:38:55 | 0:38:58 | |
as Pablo Escobar and his Medellin Cartel | 0:38:58 | 0:39:01 | |
waged war against the government. | 0:39:01 | 0:39:03 | |
Medellin used to be one of the most dangerous cities in the world, | 0:39:06 | 0:39:11 | |
but it's since been completely transformed. | 0:39:11 | 0:39:14 | |
I'm off to meet the man who saved the city. | 0:39:14 | 0:39:17 | |
You cannot imagine how this was | 0:39:27 | 0:39:30 | |
before we came in to do all these things. | 0:39:30 | 0:39:32 | |
What was this like before you transformed it? | 0:39:32 | 0:39:35 | |
From there up all the way north, basically, | 0:39:35 | 0:39:41 | |
it was a city where people would never come. | 0:39:41 | 0:39:44 | |
HE SPEAKS SPANISH | 0:39:45 | 0:39:47 | |
Sergio Fajardo was the mayor of Medellin who transformed this place. | 0:39:49 | 0:39:54 | |
He's now a bit of a celebrity. | 0:39:54 | 0:39:55 | |
He was taking me to see one of his proudest achievements. | 0:40:00 | 0:40:03 | |
We're entering a huge queue and we're entering a queue | 0:40:06 | 0:40:10 | |
for one of their former mayor's signature projects, | 0:40:10 | 0:40:14 | |
which has changed the lives of an extraordinary number of people here, | 0:40:14 | 0:40:17 | |
and it is cable cars! | 0:40:17 | 0:40:19 | |
When Medellin's cable car system opened, | 0:40:21 | 0:40:24 | |
it connected the most violent hilltop slums to the city centre, | 0:40:24 | 0:40:28 | |
giving the poorest access to jobs, health care, education, opportunity. | 0:40:28 | 0:40:34 | |
People from the south part would never dare to come here, | 0:40:34 | 0:40:38 | |
would never worry about what is happening in here. | 0:40:38 | 0:40:41 | |
People, saw many killings around here, | 0:40:41 | 0:40:44 | |
so we build the new spaces where people could get together without fear, | 0:40:44 | 0:40:48 | |
so we were connected in the city. | 0:40:48 | 0:40:51 | |
This is still informal housing, I think. | 0:40:51 | 0:40:54 | |
You can see here bits of housing stuck on top of bits of housing. | 0:40:54 | 0:40:58 | |
This was a very violent and impoverished | 0:40:58 | 0:41:01 | |
and unemployed area of the city. | 0:41:01 | 0:41:04 | |
Right. We approached things in a completely different way. | 0:41:04 | 0:41:07 | |
The cable cars were just the most visible part of his plan. | 0:41:12 | 0:41:15 | |
We have social interventions on the ground. | 0:41:17 | 0:41:19 | |
Internship centre, the park, | 0:41:19 | 0:41:21 | |
the school, another school that we build new. | 0:41:21 | 0:41:24 | |
The health centre, the housing offices. | 0:41:24 | 0:41:27 | |
All the programmes that we have, social programmes, cultural. | 0:41:27 | 0:41:30 | |
That's what we did and we put them simultaneously. | 0:41:30 | 0:41:33 | |
You took the state to the people. | 0:41:33 | 0:41:35 | |
Definitely, but that's very difficult to do. | 0:41:35 | 0:41:38 | |
Medellin's transformation seems nothing short of miraculous. | 0:41:40 | 0:41:44 | |
In the past 20 years, murders are down more than 90%, | 0:41:46 | 0:41:50 | |
poverty by more than 60%. | 0:41:50 | 0:41:52 | |
Buenas tardes. Como estan? | 0:41:53 | 0:41:55 | |
And that's mainly from investing in poor areas, | 0:41:57 | 0:41:59 | |
rather than heavy-handed security. | 0:41:59 | 0:42:01 | |
What can the rest of the country learn from what you did here? | 0:42:03 | 0:42:06 | |
People are not asking for favours, they are asking for opportunities. | 0:42:07 | 0:42:13 | |
They don't want to receive, but to be developed themselves. | 0:42:13 | 0:42:17 | |
That's what it means to be empowered. | 0:42:17 | 0:42:20 | |
Empowering the community is the challenge. | 0:42:20 | 0:42:22 | |
When that happens, extraordinary things can happen. | 0:42:22 | 0:42:26 | |
There's a lot of challenges facing the country. | 0:42:28 | 0:42:30 | |
But at the same time, if we remove these things, | 0:42:30 | 0:42:34 | |
can you imagine what can happen in this country? | 0:42:34 | 0:42:38 | |
We will be the example for the whole planet. | 0:42:38 | 0:42:43 | |
What's particularly impressive about the transformation here | 0:42:48 | 0:42:51 | |
is that it started from the idea of giving the best | 0:42:51 | 0:42:54 | |
and the most beautiful buildings and facilities to the poorest. | 0:42:54 | 0:42:59 | |
It's completely counterintuitive compared to what most cities do. | 0:42:59 | 0:43:03 | |
MUSIC: Crioula by Daude | 0:43:03 | 0:43:06 | |
Not long ago, night-time in Medellin often meant sirens and gunfire. | 0:43:16 | 0:43:21 | |
Now it's one of the most exciting cities in South America. | 0:43:23 | 0:43:26 | |
I headed for a place that shows it's not just peace that's possible, | 0:43:29 | 0:43:33 | |
but reconciliation. | 0:43:33 | 0:43:35 | |
It's one of the swankiest restaurants in town. | 0:43:35 | 0:43:37 | |
El Cielo is run by Juan Manuel Barrientos. | 0:43:38 | 0:43:41 | |
Congratulations. You have one of the best restaurants in Latin America. | 0:43:45 | 0:43:48 | |
-Thank you very much. -And you've been rather successful. | 0:43:48 | 0:43:52 | |
Thank God, yeah. Yeah. | 0:43:52 | 0:43:53 | |
So, you have got people from basically all sides of the conflict | 0:44:04 | 0:44:08 | |
working here together in harmony, creating beautiful food. | 0:44:08 | 0:44:13 | |
-Can we meet some of them? -Yeah, of course. | 0:44:14 | 0:44:16 | |
Flipping heck! There's some serious cheffing going on here. | 0:44:22 | 0:44:25 | |
This is beautiful work you're doing here, | 0:44:32 | 0:44:36 | |
how did you come to be here? | 0:44:36 | 0:44:37 | |
Romero works alongside Nora, | 0:44:51 | 0:44:54 | |
a former Farc guerrilla, | 0:44:54 | 0:44:56 | |
and Edison, who used to belong to a right-wing paramilitary group. | 0:44:56 | 0:45:00 | |
Edison? Mucho gusto. Simon. Nora? | 0:45:02 | 0:45:06 | |
Mucho gusto. | 0:45:06 | 0:45:08 | |
Simon. | 0:45:08 | 0:45:09 | |
It's wonderful to see the three of you working together. | 0:45:09 | 0:45:13 | |
Has it been difficult for the three of you to bond together as a team? | 0:45:13 | 0:45:20 | |
What can Colombia learn from the fact that three of you are able to | 0:45:35 | 0:45:39 | |
not just work together, but clearly have a bond together? | 0:45:39 | 0:45:43 | |
We have a former soldier, a former paramilitary, | 0:46:03 | 0:46:06 | |
a former member of Farc. | 0:46:06 | 0:46:08 | |
Is this the future of Colombia? | 0:46:08 | 0:46:10 | |
Can there be peace in Colombia? | 0:46:27 | 0:46:29 | |
Will there be peace in Colombia? | 0:46:29 | 0:46:31 | |
Thank you very much indeed, mate. | 0:46:41 | 0:46:43 | |
It's lovely to hear. Gracias, Nora. | 0:46:43 | 0:46:46 | |
Gracias. Gracias, Edison. | 0:46:46 | 0:46:49 | |
Thank you very much indeed. | 0:46:49 | 0:46:52 | |
It's nine o'clock on a Saturday evening. | 0:46:52 | 0:46:54 | |
We're in one of the finest restaurants in Latin America. | 0:46:54 | 0:46:57 | |
Do you think there's any chance I can have a little bit of the food? | 0:46:57 | 0:47:01 | |
OK, where to start? | 0:47:08 | 0:47:09 | |
I'm going to go straight into the meat. | 0:47:09 | 0:47:12 | |
It just falls apart. This is fantastic. | 0:47:12 | 0:47:15 | |
This isn't good, this is incredible. | 0:47:19 | 0:47:21 | |
Which wine should I drink first? | 0:47:24 | 0:47:26 | |
I think I'll go for the red. | 0:47:26 | 0:47:28 | |
Thank you so much. | 0:47:28 | 0:47:29 | |
-You're welcome. -This is very good. | 0:47:29 | 0:47:33 | |
I'm sorry that you're not able to share this with me, Jonathan, | 0:47:35 | 0:47:39 | |
but we'll get out for a pizza later. | 0:47:39 | 0:47:42 | |
It's one thing to transform a city, | 0:48:06 | 0:48:08 | |
but most of Colombia's problems are in the countryside. | 0:48:08 | 0:48:13 | |
And fixing things in rural areas is much harder than fixing a city. | 0:48:13 | 0:48:17 | |
This is pretty bumpy. | 0:48:21 | 0:48:22 | |
Just 15% of the country's roads are tarmacked, | 0:48:24 | 0:48:28 | |
leaving rural Columbians isolated | 0:48:28 | 0:48:30 | |
and often at the mercy of armed groups. | 0:48:30 | 0:48:32 | |
OK, I think we're finally here. | 0:48:39 | 0:48:42 | |
I was travelling with Laura Gomez from Oxfam | 0:48:42 | 0:48:45 | |
who's an expert on life in rural Colombia. | 0:48:45 | 0:48:48 | |
Laura was taking me to meet a farmer who's experienced many of | 0:48:50 | 0:48:53 | |
the challenges of country life at first-hand. | 0:48:53 | 0:48:56 | |
THEY SPEAK SPANISH | 0:48:56 | 0:48:58 | |
Thank you very much indeed for having us. | 0:49:06 | 0:49:09 | |
Denio has a small farm in the mountains of Cauca. | 0:49:15 | 0:49:18 | |
Oh, wow, it's here. | 0:49:29 | 0:49:31 | |
So, these are little coca plants here. | 0:49:33 | 0:49:36 | |
Why do you grow coca? | 0:49:38 | 0:49:40 | |
What would you say to people who say this plant brings nothing but misery | 0:49:55 | 0:50:00 | |
to Colombia and to countries between here | 0:50:00 | 0:50:05 | |
and the users in America and Europe? | 0:50:05 | 0:50:07 | |
Are you saying then that because of the lack of infrastructure here | 0:50:36 | 0:50:39 | |
means that people grow coca? | 0:50:39 | 0:50:41 | |
Coca flourishes in this climate. | 0:51:08 | 0:51:10 | |
It's one of the easiest crops to grow here. | 0:51:10 | 0:51:13 | |
But Denio got tired of the violence associated with cocaine | 0:51:13 | 0:51:17 | |
and his wife persuaded him to switch to an alternative crop. | 0:51:17 | 0:51:20 | |
Wow! This deliciousness is what we call cocoa. | 0:52:13 | 0:52:16 | |
This is the base for chocolate. | 0:52:17 | 0:52:19 | |
And flippin' heck, even like this it's amazing. | 0:52:20 | 0:52:23 | |
The bounty of Colombia, eh? | 0:52:25 | 0:52:27 | |
Weaning the country off coca and cocaine is vital | 0:52:30 | 0:52:33 | |
if peace is to come to Colombia. | 0:52:33 | 0:52:36 | |
The government has pledged £270 million | 0:52:36 | 0:52:38 | |
to help farmers like Denio switch to legal crops. | 0:52:38 | 0:52:42 | |
But it's not just about money, | 0:52:43 | 0:52:46 | |
the huge problems in the countryside go back decades. | 0:52:46 | 0:52:49 | |
What are the challenges that people face living out here? | 0:52:51 | 0:52:54 | |
What happens here if the government doesn't help the rural poor? | 0:53:50 | 0:53:53 | |
So, it's in places like this that | 0:54:06 | 0:54:08 | |
the future of this stunning country will be decided. | 0:54:08 | 0:54:11 | |
Rural poverty and inequality was the cause of conflict in Colombia. | 0:54:12 | 0:54:17 | |
For decades, people in the countryside have said | 0:54:17 | 0:54:19 | |
they needed medical centres, schools, roads | 0:54:19 | 0:54:22 | |
and the government has ignored them. | 0:54:22 | 0:54:24 | |
Now, this has to be addressed. | 0:54:24 | 0:54:26 | |
We just jumped out of the vehicles | 0:54:39 | 0:54:41 | |
because there's a demonstration up ahead that I think we should see. | 0:54:41 | 0:54:45 | |
Looks like things might get a little bit ugly. | 0:54:51 | 0:54:53 | |
So, this is a quite extraordinary event. | 0:55:11 | 0:55:13 | |
This is one of the largest ever gatherings of coca growers. | 0:55:13 | 0:55:18 | |
The base for cocaine. | 0:55:18 | 0:55:19 | |
And they are demonstrating and protesting, from what I can tell, | 0:55:26 | 0:55:29 | |
about the need for them to be given alternatives to coca growing. | 0:55:29 | 0:55:33 | |
Until recently, the government here dealt with | 0:55:37 | 0:55:39 | |
the problem of coca growing by forcibly eradicating crops | 0:55:39 | 0:55:43 | |
with chemicals sprayed from the air. | 0:55:43 | 0:55:45 | |
In the peace deal, | 0:55:45 | 0:55:47 | |
the state promised to help farmers transition to legal crops | 0:55:47 | 0:55:49 | |
like coffee or bananas, but all's not going to plan. | 0:55:49 | 0:55:53 | |
Why are you here? What do you want? | 0:55:56 | 0:55:59 | |
For lasting peace, poor farmers will need decent land, | 0:56:48 | 0:56:51 | |
advice and infrastructure like roads, | 0:56:51 | 0:56:53 | |
so that they can grow and sell legal crops. | 0:56:53 | 0:56:56 | |
Look at this. Look back. | 0:56:56 | 0:56:57 | |
We're not even at the front of it. | 0:56:57 | 0:56:59 | |
There are thousands and thousands of people here. | 0:56:59 | 0:57:01 | |
I'm amazed by the size of this march, this demo. | 0:57:01 | 0:57:05 | |
And it's actually one of the most hopeful things I've seen | 0:57:05 | 0:57:08 | |
during my entire time in this country. | 0:57:08 | 0:57:10 | |
These are people who are doing something really illegal, | 0:57:10 | 0:57:13 | |
who are saying, | 0:57:13 | 0:57:14 | |
"If we can have alternatives and opportunities, | 0:57:14 | 0:57:16 | |
"then we could see an end to the cocaine trade." | 0:57:16 | 0:57:19 | |
Colombia is now at a critical point. | 0:57:25 | 0:57:27 | |
A third of all peace agreements breakdown in less than five years. | 0:57:27 | 0:57:32 | |
Those that succeed address the root causes of conflict, | 0:57:32 | 0:57:35 | |
and that is what Colombia must surely do now. | 0:57:35 | 0:57:39 | |
Colombia has a really positive, hopeful future. | 0:57:39 | 0:57:43 | |
But it will take the government tackling the elites here, | 0:57:43 | 0:57:47 | |
the wealthiest in the country, who own the best agricultural land, | 0:57:47 | 0:57:50 | |
and have kept the campesinos and the peasants down for so long. | 0:57:50 | 0:57:55 | |
That has to change. | 0:57:55 | 0:57:57 | |
If it doesn't, there will never be peace in this country. | 0:57:57 | 0:58:01 | |
If it does change, I think peace will come to Colombia. | 0:58:01 | 0:58:04 |