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This is one of the most spectacular

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and beautiful countries in the world.

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I'm on a journey around Colombia.

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Just look down there, it's so remote and so rugged.

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For more than 50 years it's been gripped by brutal conflict.

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Incoming, incoming. A war often fuelled by the global drugs trade.

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This is coca, the base for cocaine.

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But now, there's a chance for peace in Colombia.

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We'll be the example for the whole planet.

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So I'm going deep into the jungle...

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Goodness me.

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..to meet the guerrilla army promising to lay down its weapons

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and show remorse for atrocities.

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There must be moments in the conflict

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that keep you awake at night now, surely?

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No. No.

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I'll meet the narco farmers who say they know how to save the country.

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This is one of the largest ever gatherings of coca growers.

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As I try to find out if, finally, peace really can come to Colombia.

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I got off to a good start in the Rosario Islands,

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a stunning archipelago of tropical islands in the north of Colombia.

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Isn't this glorious?

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People don't generally think of Colombia

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as having a Caribbean coastline,

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but it does and it's spectacular.

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Hard to believe that for years, decades,

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Colombia had a reputation as a violent, no-go area.

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This is a country people generally associate with cocaine and conflict,

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but there is so much more to Colombia than that.

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Most of the tourists who come to places like this are Colombian,

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but the rest of the world is starting to wake up

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to the charms of this country.

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Things are changing here.

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The islands are dotted with private holiday homes

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and some exclusive boutique hotels.

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They're a destination of choice for Colombia's elite.

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But they do also offer a glimpse into the country's murky history.

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Many of the houses were owned by drug barons,

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people like Pablo Escobar,

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who was the head of the Medellin cartel.

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This is what drug money can buy you.

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An enormous mansion, a mansion for entertaining, actually.

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That's the thought that strikes me.

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For decades, powerful drug cartels dominated much of this country.

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Fighting the state, the people and each other.

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They killed thousands.

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The drugs trade also helped fuel Colombia's brutal civil conflict,

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a war lasting more than five decades between the government

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and a powerful guerrilla army called the Farc.

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It's all very nice here,

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but for generations much of this country was out of control.

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At one point,

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it looked like Colombia might even become a failed state.

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This is the Colombian mainland.

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We're about to land in the city of Cartagena.

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I'm arriving at a really critical moment

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in the history of this country, a really exciting time.

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There has been conflict in this country for decades,

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terrible conflict, almost a civil war,

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and now, hopefully, finally, that could be coming to an end.

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Could be, but it's not certain.

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If peace comes, it could transform the country.

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Take the travel industry.

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Most people here are local.

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Colombia can make billions more from international tourism.

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I met up with a local tour guide called Lina

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on one of Cartagena's many beaches.

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It's rather lovely here, Lina. This is rather...

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It's rather fun.

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Cartagena played its own role in the peace process.

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Just a few months ago, something monumental happened right here.

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A stage was set up for the president of Colombia

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and the leader of the Farc guerrilla group,

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terrorist organisation as many Colombians would see it,

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for them to sign a peace deal, ending decades of war in Colombia.

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It's been a terrible conflict.

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More than 200,000 people have been killed.

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Millions of Colombians have been displaced from their homes,

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turned into refugees in their own country,

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and it was supposed to end here with a peace deal

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signed by the president and the leader of Farc

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with a pen fashioned from an old bullet.

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It was a historic event and the rest of the world was delighted.

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It seemed the longest-running conflict in the Western hemisphere

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was finally over.

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But in Colombia, the deal was hugely controversial.

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Many thought it was too soft on the Marxist revolutionary group Farc.

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The deal was put to a referendum and the public narrowly voted no.

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After political wrangling, an amended deal was put in place,

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but the vote showed that peace can't be guaranteed,

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even, perhaps especially,

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when so many Colombians have been victims of the war.

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Is it fair to say that almost everybody in this country

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has been touched by the conflict

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that has affected Colombia for decades?

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How are you involved with or affected by the conflict?

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Lina got involved with Farc

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after following in love with a guerrilla fighter.

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But their relationship lasted just two years.

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Do you know what happened to him?

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Lina and her boyfriend had tried to leave the Farc.

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The group's punishment for desertion was often death.

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Lina's partner was one of an estimated 100,000 Colombians

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who have vanished without a trace during the conflict,

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at the hands of the guerrillas, the government, gangs, soldiers,

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the police. The violence here has been extraordinary.

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I travelled to the capital city Bogota.

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Conflict has driven more than seven million Colombians from their homes.

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They've been forced to become refugees within their own country.

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Colombia has more internally displaced people

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than anywhere else in the world.

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Hundreds of thousands have fled from remote rural areas

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to the big cities.

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THEY SPEAK SPANISH

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Simon.

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Luz was forced off her land at the height of the conflict.

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She and her friends are all victims of the war

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and life as a refugee here is a real struggle.

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What are you doing here, ladies?

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SHE SINGS

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You're warming it up there. She's warming it up, I can tell.

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Oh, it's getting louder.

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THEY SING

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They've good lungs on them, I'll tell you.

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Success.

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A lot of people have come to the windows actually and smiled

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and said, "Sorry, we haven't got any at the moment," but...

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you can see this is a community that feels a connection with them

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and they have a connection with the community.

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Baby clothes.

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There's always need for those.

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Look at that.

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Whoa!

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Tiny! Are you happy with that, Luz?

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Luz and her friends use these donations to clothe their families.

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What they don't need they sell to help other victims of the conflict

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who are still arriving in the capital.

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Can you actually make a living from selling on the clothes?

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Luz originally comes from one of the poorest

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and most remote regions of the country.

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Luz, how do you come to be in Bogota?

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Who did this?

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Thank you so much for meeting with us

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and for sharing such a very difficult story with us.

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What you've been through is utterly horrific.

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You've suffered so much.

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Are you for or against the peace deal?

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Are you hopeful for the future?

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It was humbling meeting Luz.

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Like so many of those who have suffered the most here,

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she supports reconciliation,

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even with the group said to be responsible for her suffering.

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It was time for me to meet the Farc.

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I travelled south.

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Colombia is a vast country, the size of Spain and France combined.

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Huge areas are covered by mountains, forest and jungle.

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We really are in the middle of nowhere out here.

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For decades there has been very little Colombian government involvement

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or even interest in areas like this,

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and that's created a vacuum which the Farc has filled.

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Farc was formed in the 1960s to battle for the rural poor.

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At the time, life here was medieval,

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with poor farmers treated as little more than serfs

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by a small number of brutal, wealthy landowners.

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Farc captured huge swathes of Colombia

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and became the effective government,

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building basic roads, schools and hospitals.

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I was heading to one of the last Farc jungle camps.

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I think we're just approaching the small village now

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where we're going to meet up with some people from the Farc

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and they're going to take us from here to the camp.

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Over decades,

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Farc mutated from freedom fighters into an often criminal army

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funded by cocaine, extortion and hundreds of kidnappings.

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Hundreds of thousands of Colombians were caught up in fighting between

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Farc and the Colombian Army, which also committed appalling atrocities,

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including the mass killing of innocent civilians.

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There's a motorcyclist up ahead of us

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and we're following him to the Farc camp.

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The camp? Here we are, this is it. Look.

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This is it.

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Bloody hell.

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This is it. The Farc camp.

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As part of the peace process,

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Farc has agreed to demobilise and give up its weapons,

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but these guerrillas were still well armed.

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We have to remember that thousands of people were taken captive

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and held hostage by the Farc, many of them in places like this.

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One of the most famous, or infamous,

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captives describes how she was held for six years in this area

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and she spent much of that time chained...

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to a tree with a metal ring around her neck.

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So, perhaps, that helps explain why I, for one,

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feel a little bit funny and apprehensive about being here.

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During the worst period of conflict in Colombia,

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someone was being kidnapped on average every eight hours.

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At times, more than a thousand people were being held

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by different armed groups.

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Thankfully, Farc's now halted ransom kidnappings.

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I'd been promised a chance to meet a Farc commander...

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but after a 12-hour journey, it was time to bed down for the night.

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It turned out I was meeting one of the most senior leaders of Farc.

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A man involved with peace negotiations at the highest level.

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Mauricio Jaramillo is known as El Medico, or The Doctor.

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The peace agreement between the state and Farc

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is complicated and controversial.

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In return for laying down weapons,

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Farc commanders like The Doctor could be allowed to enter politics,

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but first, commanders thought to have been responsible for atrocities

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will need to testify before a special court.

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If they confess their crimes

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they won't have to serve prison sentences.

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As part of the peace process, as an organisation and as individuals,

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you're going to have to atone for crimes.

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What did Farc get wrong, what's the worst things that you've done?

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That's very open of you.

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And what about you personally?

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What will you need to atone for?

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What are the worst things that you've done

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or ordered to be done during this struggle?

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There must be moments in the conflict

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where you've ordered something to happen

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that keeps you awake at night now, surely?

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No. No.

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You're taking off in a helicopter?

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Where are you going?

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Commander, gracias.

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I'd been warned he might need to leave.

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The peace process was fragile,

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and it turned out The Doctor was being taken for more secret talks

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with other Farc commanders and the government.

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Commander, can we just...? Sorry.

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What would you say, what happens...?

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What happens if the peace process fails?

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Will Farc go back to war?

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Ending a conflict can require tricky compromises.

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This man was seen as the leader of a terrorist group.

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Now, as part of the peace deal,

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Farc will be given ten seats in the Colombian Congress.

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The Doctor could one day be in government.

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It's less clear what will happen to the thousands of Farc guerrillas.

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Many grew up in the group

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and have known nothing but jungle warfare their entire adult lives.

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They'll need jobs,

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and the government has promised land reforms,

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in which many displaced Colombians and the rural poor

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will be given land they can farm.

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These guerrillas hope they'll also benefit.

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What's going on here?

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Farc has done terrible things.

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But many of these guerrillas originally joined to battle

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for land rights for poor rural farmers.

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Land and the ownership of it is central to the conflict in Colombia.

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This is a country where a few ludicrously wealthy families

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have always owned most of the best farmland.

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For all their sins,

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Farc has insisted the situation has to change.

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We want peace.

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Let us hope they find it, eh?

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At the height of the conflict,

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Farc was one of the richest guerrilla armies in the world,

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for one very key reason.

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Look at this. We just stopped at the side of the road,

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I really wanted to show you this.

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If there's anything that's at the root

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of most of Colombia's problems, it's this.

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This harmless looking plant.

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This is coca, the base for cocaine.

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For years now,

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Farc has controlled most of the best land in this country

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for growing coca.

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It has helped to finance the conflict.

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As part of the peace process,

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Farc have promised they are going to completely withdraw from the drugs trade.

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But the risk, of course, is that as they withdraw,

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that creates a vacuum,

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and incredibly violent drugs gangs will then seek to try

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and take over and control the land,

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the areas of this country that were previously controlled by the Farc.

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Colombia is the biggest producer of cocaine in the world.

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It is a trade worth billions every year.

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I drove west to Buenaventura, on Colombia's Pacific coast.

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It's a major port, and a hub for drug smuggling to the US.

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It's not just the left-wing Farc that's made money from drugs

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or kidnapped and killed.

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Other armed groups are also to blame for the state of Colombia.

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Here in Buenaventura,

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it has been right-wing paramilitary groups and criminal gangs.

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The paramilitaries have been central to Colombia's Civil War.

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So, there are areas of this city that it's not advised to visit

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without some serious armed support.

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This city used to be a battleground between the left-wing Farc guerrilla

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or terrorist group, and right-wing paramilitary groups.

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The paramilitary groups now seem to have driven the guerrillas

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out of the town. In the process,

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they have committed some of the most extraordinary acts of violence

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this country's seen.

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Colombia's right-wing paramilitary groups emerged as an opposition to

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the left-wing Farc.

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They were funded by wealthy businessmen, landowners,

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even international corporations, and had close ties to the army,

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politicians and the drug cartels.

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The paramilitaries killed anyone fighting for the rights of rural peasants,

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including trade unionists and human rights workers.

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Just to be absolutely clear,

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studies have shown the right-wing paramilitary groups

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killed many more people than Farc.

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20-year-old Christian grew up in Buenaventura

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and witnessed the violence.

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What is a chop house?

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Can you describe to us what was here?

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Who was doing this?

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Cristian, what on earth was it like to hear those sounds at night?

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Cristian, this looks like a very poor area.

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Do people here feel forgotten? Do they feel ignored?

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Cristian now helps young people at risk of recruitment by gangs

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through a charity called Foundation Pro-Peace.

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Cristian, thank you so very much.

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Good luck, all right? We wish you all the very best for the future.

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Many of the right-wing paramilitary groups have mutated into criminal gangs.

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They are now a major source of human rights abuses

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and violence across Colombia.

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Fighting over drugs, land,

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and another massive source of illegal revenue - gold.

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Gracias.

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I was off on a mission with the Colombian Army.

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Just look down there. It's so remote and so rugged.

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It's incredibly hard for the authorities to control these areas

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of the country and operate in.

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I want to know, how serious a problem is illegal gold mining?

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The army formed this anti-illegal gold mining brigade

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to tackle what's been called a national emergency.

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There are an estimated 17,000 illegal gold mines across Colombia,

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controlled by armed groups that are believed to earn nearly

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£2 billion a year from the trade.

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Colonel Luque's squad was on a mission

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to destroy an illegal mining complex

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in a remote region near the Caribbean coast.

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They've come in with their weapons ready cos they're not sure what

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sort of reaction they're going to get from the people who are mining

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or the gangs controlling them. I'm going to go with them now.

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There was no sign of the armed gangs that run the mine,

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but the soldiers had nabbed some local men working at the site.

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Colonel, who are these people?

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The miners pollute rivers

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with mercury they used to extract the gold

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and clear huge areas of forest.

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Illegal gold mining is actually one of

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the main drivers of deforestation in Colombia.

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Colonel Luque and his men move fast

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before there's any chance of a counterattack.

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Gracias.

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They're asking us to clear the area

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because they're going to blow up the equipment.

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Apparently the reason they need to blow them up is because

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if they try to take these diggers out the armed gangs who have

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owned them up to now could fight them to take them back.

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HE SPEAKS SPANISH

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Bloody hell!

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Incoming, incoming.

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Bloody hell!

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A huge bit of the digger flew into the air

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and landed just 20 feet from us, I would say.

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Around 80% of gold production in Colombia is illegal.

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It's a growing problem across South America.

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There are thought to be perhaps 50,000 people working

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on illegal mines in Colombia

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and more than 70,000 in the Brazilian Amazon.

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The gangs behind this are fantastically rich

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and fantastically dangerous.

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They have enormous resources.

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They can move an expensive pump, very expensive diggers,

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into the middle of nowhere and strip it bare,

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and they will battle and fight to protect that.

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The problems facing Colombia can sometimes feel overwhelming.

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Drugs, conflict, guerrillas, gangs, even illegal gold mining.

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But there are not just hopeful signs here,

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there's proof that change is possible.

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I was heading to the city of Medellin.

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It was once one of the most notorious cities in the world.

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But it's gone through a miraculous transformation.

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Two decades ago, drugs, violence and crime were out of control here.

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There were more than 6,000 murders a year

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as Pablo Escobar and his Medellin Cartel

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waged war against the government.

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Medellin used to be one of the most dangerous cities in the world,

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but it's since been completely transformed.

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I'm off to meet the man who saved the city.

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You cannot imagine how this was

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before we came in to do all these things.

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What was this like before you transformed it?

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From there up all the way north, basically,

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it was a city where people would never come.

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HE SPEAKS SPANISH

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Sergio Fajardo was the mayor of Medellin who transformed this place.

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He's now a bit of a celebrity.

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He was taking me to see one of his proudest achievements.

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We're entering a huge queue and we're entering a queue

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for one of their former mayor's signature projects,

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which has changed the lives of an extraordinary number of people here,

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and it is cable cars!

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When Medellin's cable car system opened,

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it connected the most violent hilltop slums to the city centre,

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giving the poorest access to jobs, health care, education, opportunity.

0:40:280:40:34

People from the south part would never dare to come here,

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would never worry about what is happening in here.

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People, saw many killings around here,

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so we build the new spaces where people could get together without fear,

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so we were connected in the city.

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This is still informal housing, I think.

0:40:510:40:54

You can see here bits of housing stuck on top of bits of housing.

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This was a very violent and impoverished

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and unemployed area of the city.

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Right. We approached things in a completely different way.

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The cable cars were just the most visible part of his plan.

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We have social interventions on the ground.

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Internship centre, the park,

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the school, another school that we build new.

0:41:210:41:24

The health centre, the housing offices.

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All the programmes that we have, social programmes, cultural.

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That's what we did and we put them simultaneously.

0:41:300:41:33

You took the state to the people.

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Definitely, but that's very difficult to do.

0:41:350:41:38

Medellin's transformation seems nothing short of miraculous.

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In the past 20 years, murders are down more than 90%,

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poverty by more than 60%.

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Buenas tardes. Como estan?

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And that's mainly from investing in poor areas,

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rather than heavy-handed security.

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What can the rest of the country learn from what you did here?

0:42:030:42:06

People are not asking for favours, they are asking for opportunities.

0:42:070:42:13

They don't want to receive, but to be developed themselves.

0:42:130:42:17

That's what it means to be empowered.

0:42:170:42:20

Empowering the community is the challenge.

0:42:200:42:22

When that happens, extraordinary things can happen.

0:42:220:42:26

There's a lot of challenges facing the country.

0:42:280:42:30

But at the same time, if we remove these things,

0:42:300:42:34

can you imagine what can happen in this country?

0:42:340:42:38

We will be the example for the whole planet.

0:42:380:42:43

What's particularly impressive about the transformation here

0:42:480:42:51

is that it started from the idea of giving the best

0:42:510:42:54

and the most beautiful buildings and facilities to the poorest.

0:42:540:42:59

It's completely counterintuitive compared to what most cities do.

0:42:590:43:03

MUSIC: Crioula by Daude

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Not long ago, night-time in Medellin often meant sirens and gunfire.

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Now it's one of the most exciting cities in South America.

0:43:230:43:26

I headed for a place that shows it's not just peace that's possible,

0:43:290:43:33

but reconciliation.

0:43:330:43:35

It's one of the swankiest restaurants in town.

0:43:350:43:37

El Cielo is run by Juan Manuel Barrientos.

0:43:380:43:41

Congratulations. You have one of the best restaurants in Latin America.

0:43:450:43:48

-Thank you very much.

-And you've been rather successful.

0:43:480:43:52

Thank God, yeah. Yeah.

0:43:520:43:53

So, you have got people from basically all sides of the conflict

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working here together in harmony, creating beautiful food.

0:44:080:44:13

-Can we meet some of them?

-Yeah, of course.

0:44:140:44:16

Flipping heck! There's some serious cheffing going on here.

0:44:220:44:25

This is beautiful work you're doing here,

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how did you come to be here?

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Romero works alongside Nora,

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a former Farc guerrilla,

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and Edison, who used to belong to a right-wing paramilitary group.

0:44:560:45:00

Edison? Mucho gusto. Simon. Nora?

0:45:020:45:06

Mucho gusto.

0:45:060:45:08

Simon.

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It's wonderful to see the three of you working together.

0:45:090:45:13

Has it been difficult for the three of you to bond together as a team?

0:45:130:45:20

What can Colombia learn from the fact that three of you are able to

0:45:350:45:39

not just work together, but clearly have a bond together?

0:45:390:45:43

We have a former soldier, a former paramilitary,

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a former member of Farc.

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Is this the future of Colombia?

0:46:080:46:10

Can there be peace in Colombia?

0:46:270:46:29

Will there be peace in Colombia?

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Thank you very much indeed, mate.

0:46:410:46:43

It's lovely to hear. Gracias, Nora.

0:46:430:46:46

Gracias. Gracias, Edison.

0:46:460:46:49

Thank you very much indeed.

0:46:490:46:52

It's nine o'clock on a Saturday evening.

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We're in one of the finest restaurants in Latin America.

0:46:540:46:57

Do you think there's any chance I can have a little bit of the food?

0:46:570:47:01

OK, where to start?

0:47:080:47:09

I'm going to go straight into the meat.

0:47:090:47:12

It just falls apart. This is fantastic.

0:47:120:47:15

This isn't good, this is incredible.

0:47:190:47:21

Which wine should I drink first?

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I think I'll go for the red.

0:47:260:47:28

Thank you so much.

0:47:280:47:29

-You're welcome.

-This is very good.

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I'm sorry that you're not able to share this with me, Jonathan,

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but we'll get out for a pizza later.

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It's one thing to transform a city,

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but most of Colombia's problems are in the countryside.

0:48:080:48:13

And fixing things in rural areas is much harder than fixing a city.

0:48:130:48:17

This is pretty bumpy.

0:48:210:48:22

Just 15% of the country's roads are tarmacked,

0:48:240:48:28

leaving rural Columbians isolated

0:48:280:48:30

and often at the mercy of armed groups.

0:48:300:48:32

OK, I think we're finally here.

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I was travelling with Laura Gomez from Oxfam

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who's an expert on life in rural Colombia.

0:48:450:48:48

Laura was taking me to meet a farmer who's experienced many of

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the challenges of country life at first-hand.

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THEY SPEAK SPANISH

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Thank you very much indeed for having us.

0:49:060:49:09

Denio has a small farm in the mountains of Cauca.

0:49:150:49:18

Oh, wow, it's here.

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So, these are little coca plants here.

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Why do you grow coca?

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What would you say to people who say this plant brings nothing but misery

0:49:550:50:00

to Colombia and to countries between here

0:50:000:50:05

and the users in America and Europe?

0:50:050:50:07

Are you saying then that because of the lack of infrastructure here

0:50:360:50:39

means that people grow coca?

0:50:390:50:41

Coca flourishes in this climate.

0:51:080:51:10

It's one of the easiest crops to grow here.

0:51:100:51:13

But Denio got tired of the violence associated with cocaine

0:51:130:51:17

and his wife persuaded him to switch to an alternative crop.

0:51:170:51:20

Wow! This deliciousness is what we call cocoa.

0:52:130:52:16

This is the base for chocolate.

0:52:170:52:19

And flippin' heck, even like this it's amazing.

0:52:200:52:23

The bounty of Colombia, eh?

0:52:250:52:27

Weaning the country off coca and cocaine is vital

0:52:300:52:33

if peace is to come to Colombia.

0:52:330:52:36

The government has pledged £270 million

0:52:360:52:38

to help farmers like Denio switch to legal crops.

0:52:380:52:42

But it's not just about money,

0:52:430:52:46

the huge problems in the countryside go back decades.

0:52:460:52:49

What are the challenges that people face living out here?

0:52:510:52:54

What happens here if the government doesn't help the rural poor?

0:53:500:53:53

So, it's in places like this that

0:54:060:54:08

the future of this stunning country will be decided.

0:54:080:54:11

Rural poverty and inequality was the cause of conflict in Colombia.

0:54:120:54:17

For decades, people in the countryside have said

0:54:170:54:19

they needed medical centres, schools, roads

0:54:190:54:22

and the government has ignored them.

0:54:220:54:24

Now, this has to be addressed.

0:54:240:54:26

We just jumped out of the vehicles

0:54:390:54:41

because there's a demonstration up ahead that I think we should see.

0:54:410:54:45

Looks like things might get a little bit ugly.

0:54:510:54:53

So, this is a quite extraordinary event.

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This is one of the largest ever gatherings of coca growers.

0:55:130:55:18

The base for cocaine.

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And they are demonstrating and protesting, from what I can tell,

0:55:260:55:29

about the need for them to be given alternatives to coca growing.

0:55:290:55:33

Until recently, the government here dealt with

0:55:370:55:39

the problem of coca growing by forcibly eradicating crops

0:55:390:55:43

with chemicals sprayed from the air.

0:55:430:55:45

In the peace deal,

0:55:450:55:47

the state promised to help farmers transition to legal crops

0:55:470:55:49

like coffee or bananas, but all's not going to plan.

0:55:490:55:53

Why are you here? What do you want?

0:55:560:55:59

For lasting peace, poor farmers will need decent land,

0:56:480:56:51

advice and infrastructure like roads,

0:56:510:56:53

so that they can grow and sell legal crops.

0:56:530:56:56

Look at this. Look back.

0:56:560:56:57

We're not even at the front of it.

0:56:570:56:59

There are thousands and thousands of people here.

0:56:590:57:01

I'm amazed by the size of this march, this demo.

0:57:010:57:05

And it's actually one of the most hopeful things I've seen

0:57:050:57:08

during my entire time in this country.

0:57:080:57:10

These are people who are doing something really illegal,

0:57:100:57:13

who are saying,

0:57:130:57:14

"If we can have alternatives and opportunities,

0:57:140:57:16

"then we could see an end to the cocaine trade."

0:57:160:57:19

Colombia is now at a critical point.

0:57:250:57:27

A third of all peace agreements breakdown in less than five years.

0:57:270:57:32

Those that succeed address the root causes of conflict,

0:57:320:57:35

and that is what Colombia must surely do now.

0:57:350:57:39

Colombia has a really positive, hopeful future.

0:57:390:57:43

But it will take the government tackling the elites here,

0:57:430:57:47

the wealthiest in the country, who own the best agricultural land,

0:57:470:57:50

and have kept the campesinos and the peasants down for so long.

0:57:500:57:55

That has to change.

0:57:550:57:57

If it doesn't, there will never be peace in this country.

0:57:570:58:01

If it does change, I think peace will come to Colombia.

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