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Joe Simpson is on a personal journey, | 0:00:02 | 0:00:05 | |
deep into the heart of modern Burma - Myanmar. | 0:00:05 | 0:00:09 | |
Joe, an internationally renowned mountaineer, made the headlines | 0:00:09 | 0:00:12 | |
when he almost died high in the Andes when his rope was cut. | 0:00:12 | 0:00:17 | |
A story recounted in the iconic bestseller Touching The Void. | 0:00:17 | 0:00:21 | |
Now, 30 years on, he's in Burma. | 0:00:21 | 0:00:24 | |
So my father was here. | 0:00:24 | 0:00:26 | |
He was armed, he was behind enemy lines and I'm trying to just go | 0:00:26 | 0:00:32 | |
and see where he fought as a young man and get some sense of it. | 0:00:32 | 0:00:36 | |
Accompanying Joe is ex-British Army officer and expedition leader | 0:00:36 | 0:00:41 | |
Ed Stafford, the first man to walk the length of the Amazon. | 0:00:41 | 0:00:44 | |
Together, they are on the trail of an Allied Special Force | 0:00:46 | 0:00:49 | |
called the Chindits. | 0:00:49 | 0:00:51 | |
These guerrilla troops were dropped deep behind enemy lines | 0:00:51 | 0:00:54 | |
into the jungles of Burma in 1944 to attack the Imperial Japanese Army. | 0:00:54 | 0:01:00 | |
And Joe's father was one of them. | 0:01:02 | 0:01:05 | |
I've always been immensely proud of my father. | 0:01:05 | 0:01:08 | |
I found it difficult to tell him. | 0:01:08 | 0:01:11 | |
I just never did. So that's what I regret. | 0:01:11 | 0:01:13 | |
For more than 30 years, Joe has dreamed of following | 0:01:14 | 0:01:18 | |
in his dad's footsteps, to try and see what his now-deceased father, | 0:01:18 | 0:01:22 | |
Lieutenant Ian Simpson, experienced fighting here in World War II. | 0:01:22 | 0:01:26 | |
I can't even begin to think what it would have been like | 0:01:26 | 0:01:30 | |
to try and do this in a monsoon. | 0:01:30 | 0:01:32 | |
Absolutely... | 0:01:32 | 0:01:34 | |
unimaginably awful. | 0:01:34 | 0:01:37 | |
Both son and father confronted extreme events in their 20s. | 0:01:37 | 0:01:41 | |
Joe facing death in the mountains, | 0:01:41 | 0:01:44 | |
his father surviving battle in the guts of the enemy. | 0:01:44 | 0:01:47 | |
I wouldn't dream of comparing a wartime experience with | 0:01:47 | 0:01:51 | |
fiddling around on a mountain. | 0:01:51 | 0:01:52 | |
Dad didn't choose that, he was in a world war | 0:01:52 | 0:01:56 | |
and he and all those other men were doing their duty. | 0:01:56 | 0:01:58 | |
But Joe and Ed's modern-day journey... | 0:02:00 | 0:02:02 | |
Whoa! Whoa, whoa... | 0:02:02 | 0:02:04 | |
Keep coming down! | 0:02:06 | 0:02:07 | |
-Get out the way! -..has its own dangers... | 0:02:08 | 0:02:11 | |
Whoo-hoo-hoo! | 0:02:13 | 0:02:15 | |
..when they too get caught up in a conflict, | 0:02:15 | 0:02:18 | |
a modern-day echo of Joe's father's time in Burma. | 0:02:18 | 0:02:22 | |
-We seem to have walked into a war. -We have walked into a war. | 0:02:23 | 0:02:27 | |
Soon we'd better walk out of it. | 0:02:27 | 0:02:29 | |
I can't have waited all this time to come here and to finally think it's | 0:02:30 | 0:02:33 | |
just about to happen and we've got all the permissions | 0:02:33 | 0:02:36 | |
and then to find... | 0:02:36 | 0:02:37 | |
..we get the door slammed in our face. | 0:02:39 | 0:02:41 | |
That's not good news. | 0:02:41 | 0:02:43 | |
It's not good news at all. | 0:02:45 | 0:02:46 | |
It's the 8th of November, 2015. | 0:03:03 | 0:03:06 | |
A momentous day for Myanmar and its people. | 0:03:06 | 0:03:09 | |
Election day. | 0:03:09 | 0:03:10 | |
Political activist Aung San Suu Kyi and her party | 0:03:12 | 0:03:16 | |
the National League for Democracy are the frontrunners. | 0:03:16 | 0:03:19 | |
But how the military dictatorship will react is anyone's guess. | 0:03:19 | 0:03:23 | |
Joe and Ed got their first glimpse of this impending election | 0:03:26 | 0:03:30 | |
when they arrived in Myanmar ten days ago. | 0:03:30 | 0:03:33 | |
Just about to set off and there's about 100 motorbikes | 0:03:33 | 0:03:37 | |
coming down the street. | 0:03:37 | 0:03:39 | |
Hello! | 0:03:39 | 0:03:40 | |
Ah, it's an election parade! | 0:03:42 | 0:03:43 | |
These are the first open elections since 1990 | 0:03:44 | 0:03:48 | |
and could end nearly 50 years of military rule. | 0:03:48 | 0:03:51 | |
So it's a historic time for Myanmar. | 0:03:51 | 0:03:54 | |
-Aung Suu Kyi's supposed to win by a landslide. -Really? -Yeah. | 0:03:54 | 0:03:58 | |
But neither of them realise that its repercussions would have | 0:03:58 | 0:04:01 | |
massive implications for their journey, too, | 0:04:01 | 0:04:05 | |
when they were moved away from their planned route, | 0:04:05 | 0:04:07 | |
following Joe's father's Chindit track | 0:04:07 | 0:04:10 | |
to the town of Bhamo in the northeast of Myanmar. | 0:04:10 | 0:04:13 | |
We're sort of trapped in Bhamo at the moment. It's election day. | 0:04:14 | 0:04:18 | |
But, apparently, there was a shooting on the outskirts of town | 0:04:19 | 0:04:25 | |
last night and the Army have put a cordon around the city. | 0:04:25 | 0:04:28 | |
The trouble is, you're dealing with politics | 0:04:28 | 0:04:30 | |
and you're dealing with the military. | 0:04:30 | 0:04:32 | |
And that's just a... | 0:04:32 | 0:04:33 | |
..bloody awful combination, really. | 0:04:35 | 0:04:37 | |
And it's just hugely frustrating to just sit here | 0:04:38 | 0:04:40 | |
and look at those hills and that's where he was. He was just there. | 0:04:40 | 0:04:43 | |
Just in front of us. Couldn't get any closer. | 0:04:43 | 0:04:46 | |
When they were deployed into Burma in 1944, the Chindits were | 0:04:48 | 0:04:52 | |
part of one of the largest airborne operations of World War II. | 0:04:52 | 0:04:56 | |
But today, they are a forgotten army in a largely forgotten war. | 0:04:56 | 0:05:01 | |
In 1978, when I was 18, it sort of lodged in my head | 0:05:01 | 0:05:05 | |
and I thought, "What an extraordinary story! | 0:05:05 | 0:05:08 | |
"Wouldn't it be fascinating if you could | 0:05:08 | 0:05:10 | |
"actually go back to where he went?" | 0:05:10 | 0:05:13 | |
Well, we're in Bhamo. | 0:05:13 | 0:05:15 | |
And they won't let us out of town. | 0:05:16 | 0:05:18 | |
Joe and Ed's journey started off well, | 0:05:23 | 0:05:26 | |
following Joe's father's wartime path as a Chindit | 0:05:26 | 0:05:29 | |
fighting with Morris Force deep in the jungles of northeast Burma. | 0:05:29 | 0:05:33 | |
But because of increasing tensions around the election | 0:05:36 | 0:05:39 | |
in rebel hotspots, they're stuck in the town of Bhamo | 0:05:39 | 0:05:43 | |
in Kachin State. | 0:05:43 | 0:05:44 | |
It's one of those situations where you have to be patient, | 0:05:50 | 0:05:53 | |
and that really isn't my strong suit. | 0:05:53 | 0:05:56 | |
Worst-case scenario, we don't get permissions, | 0:05:58 | 0:06:01 | |
I'd just be devastated. | 0:06:01 | 0:06:03 | |
I'll never get this opportunity again, so I'm just... | 0:06:04 | 0:06:08 | |
churning inside, really, trying to... | 0:06:08 | 0:06:11 | |
HE EXHALES | 0:06:11 | 0:06:12 | |
I have to put this in perspective. | 0:06:19 | 0:06:21 | |
I mean, it is absolutely infuriating for me | 0:06:21 | 0:06:25 | |
and disappointing doesn't even get near it, | 0:06:25 | 0:06:28 | |
but at the same time, this is an election | 0:06:28 | 0:06:31 | |
and this is hugely important to the people of Burma, of Myanmar. | 0:06:31 | 0:06:34 | |
Three days later, it's a landslide victory | 0:06:46 | 0:06:49 | |
for the National League for Democracy. | 0:06:49 | 0:06:52 | |
However, until the military relinquish control, | 0:06:55 | 0:06:58 | |
tensions are running high, | 0:06:58 | 0:07:00 | |
particularly in the northeast state of Kachin. | 0:07:00 | 0:07:03 | |
For Joe and Ed, there's positive news. | 0:07:06 | 0:07:08 | |
They've got permission to move on again, but they're | 0:07:08 | 0:07:11 | |
uncertain how long it will last. | 0:07:11 | 0:07:15 | |
I can't wait, really. | 0:07:15 | 0:07:16 | |
I mean, I just want to get up there | 0:07:16 | 0:07:18 | |
and see what he could see, be where he was. | 0:07:18 | 0:07:20 | |
We're just really pleased that | 0:07:20 | 0:07:22 | |
even though we have to jump ahead a little bit, | 0:07:22 | 0:07:24 | |
we can get back to the job that we came here for. | 0:07:24 | 0:07:26 | |
The plan is to head from Bhamo to the Taiping River Valley, | 0:07:35 | 0:07:38 | |
which Joe's father crossed over 70 years ago | 0:07:38 | 0:07:41 | |
as the Chindits fought their way north. | 0:07:41 | 0:07:45 | |
It seems at the moment that our original permissions | 0:07:45 | 0:07:48 | |
aren't valid here. | 0:07:48 | 0:07:50 | |
Where we want to go up in the hills, | 0:07:50 | 0:07:51 | |
above the Bhamo-Myitkyina road, | 0:07:51 | 0:07:54 | |
where Morris Force went, | 0:07:54 | 0:07:57 | |
we can't go there right now | 0:07:57 | 0:07:59 | |
and we're applying for permissions to go into that area. | 0:07:59 | 0:08:02 | |
For more than half a century, there's been a civil war | 0:08:04 | 0:08:07 | |
between the military and rebel groups like the KIA, | 0:08:07 | 0:08:10 | |
the Kachin Independence Army. | 0:08:10 | 0:08:11 | |
It's created hotspots across Myanmar, | 0:08:11 | 0:08:15 | |
and one of them is along the only paved road | 0:08:15 | 0:08:17 | |
connecting Bhamo to Myitkyina - | 0:08:17 | 0:08:20 | |
the road that Joe and Ed are on. | 0:08:20 | 0:08:22 | |
There is fighting going on at the moment. | 0:08:25 | 0:08:27 | |
It is an area that tourists aren't allowed to go. | 0:08:27 | 0:08:29 | |
We do need to be careful because without permission, | 0:08:29 | 0:08:32 | |
it potentially could be dangerous. | 0:08:32 | 0:08:34 | |
This road was also the front line for Joe's father in 1944. | 0:08:39 | 0:08:44 | |
Back then, it was one of the Japanese main supply lines | 0:08:47 | 0:08:50 | |
and was heavily protected. | 0:08:50 | 0:08:52 | |
Today, it's still the front line, and most of its 160km | 0:08:54 | 0:08:58 | |
is bristling with troops, fortified positions and military checkpoints. | 0:08:58 | 0:09:03 | |
This has clearly been built to be defendable. | 0:09:12 | 0:09:15 | |
This bridge is obviously quite a key point | 0:09:15 | 0:09:17 | |
in terms of this logistics route, this main road, | 0:09:17 | 0:09:20 | |
which is essentially the front line, that we're on at the moment, | 0:09:20 | 0:09:23 | |
of a war that is still going on. | 0:09:23 | 0:09:25 | |
This is exactly what the Japanese were doing, they were defending | 0:09:25 | 0:09:28 | |
the supply line, which was this road between Bhamo and Myitkyina. | 0:09:28 | 0:09:31 | |
And they're really in the same static position, | 0:09:31 | 0:09:34 | |
the Chindits could come down whenever they wanted | 0:09:34 | 0:09:37 | |
and put blocks on the board, blow up trucks. | 0:09:37 | 0:09:41 | |
KIA could do exactly the same thing. | 0:09:41 | 0:09:44 | |
Heading up the Taiping River Valley, they're now 50km closer | 0:10:01 | 0:10:05 | |
to reconnecting with Ian Simpson's route, | 0:10:05 | 0:10:08 | |
as recorded in his diaries and maps, | 0:10:08 | 0:10:10 | |
but with a plain-clothed soldier as a guide. | 0:10:10 | 0:10:13 | |
This morning we're walking with a military escort, | 0:10:15 | 0:10:18 | |
and the reason for that is that we're walking through an area | 0:10:18 | 0:10:21 | |
of anti-personnel landmines and there is no safe way of telling | 0:10:21 | 0:10:27 | |
where the mines are unless you know where the mines are. | 0:10:27 | 0:10:32 | |
Parts of Myanmar are amongst | 0:10:32 | 0:10:34 | |
the most mine-ridden regions in the world. | 0:10:34 | 0:10:36 | |
And up until 2013, | 0:10:36 | 0:10:39 | |
its government was the only state | 0:10:39 | 0:10:40 | |
in the world to have scattered landmines | 0:10:40 | 0:10:42 | |
every year since the 1997 Mine Ban Treaty. | 0:10:42 | 0:10:46 | |
It's the indiscriminate and hidden nature of mines | 0:10:47 | 0:10:51 | |
that make them so very effective. | 0:10:51 | 0:10:53 | |
You literally only have to say they're there, | 0:10:53 | 0:10:55 | |
and so it's good not to take any risks. | 0:10:55 | 0:11:00 | |
After all, were making a programme about my father's war, | 0:11:00 | 0:11:03 | |
we're not trying to blow ourselves to pieces in the process. | 0:11:03 | 0:11:06 | |
In 2015, 79 people were reportedly injured | 0:11:11 | 0:11:15 | |
and 11 killed by landmines in Kachin State alone. | 0:11:15 | 0:11:19 | |
We go here or here? | 0:11:25 | 0:11:28 | |
-Good? Bad? Bad. -Bad? | 0:11:29 | 0:11:32 | |
OK, so here. | 0:11:32 | 0:11:33 | |
We're having to stay right close to the river. | 0:11:33 | 0:11:36 | |
Any inclination of us wanting to move away from the river | 0:11:36 | 0:11:39 | |
into the jungle gets the two thumbs down. | 0:11:39 | 0:11:42 | |
I think that means landmines. | 0:11:42 | 0:11:44 | |
I'm up to my thighs in water at the moment, | 0:11:48 | 0:11:51 | |
just making our way down the banks. | 0:11:51 | 0:11:53 | |
It just shows how dangerous | 0:11:55 | 0:11:57 | |
our military escort considers the jungle to be. | 0:11:57 | 0:12:01 | |
He'd far prefer to be wading straight through the water | 0:12:01 | 0:12:04 | |
than going through the trees. | 0:12:04 | 0:12:06 | |
They have no choice but to walk along the river bank. | 0:12:11 | 0:12:15 | |
For Joe, who's coping with injuries from his climbing days, | 0:12:15 | 0:12:19 | |
it's another problem. | 0:12:19 | 0:12:21 | |
What I'm worried about is this is classic knee-wrecking territory. | 0:12:21 | 0:12:26 | |
It's rounded boulders and you're stepping onto slimy rocks, | 0:12:26 | 0:12:29 | |
and all I need to do is catch my foot, sit down heavily on my knee | 0:12:29 | 0:12:33 | |
and it could be game over. | 0:12:33 | 0:12:35 | |
Joe's knee was badly damaged in 1985, | 0:12:40 | 0:12:44 | |
when he and fellow mountaineer Simon Yates | 0:12:44 | 0:12:47 | |
were caught in a storm high in the Andes. | 0:12:47 | 0:12:49 | |
A story recounted | 0:12:49 | 0:12:51 | |
in the international bestseller Touching The Void. | 0:12:51 | 0:12:54 | |
When I broke the leg, I did it at 19,000 feet | 0:12:58 | 0:13:02 | |
and it was just me and Simon. | 0:13:02 | 0:13:05 | |
In truth, he should have left me, really. | 0:13:05 | 0:13:08 | |
HE YELLS | 0:13:11 | 0:13:13 | |
Descending the mountain, Simon cut Joe's rope | 0:13:13 | 0:13:15 | |
when he thought Joe was close to the ground. | 0:13:15 | 0:13:18 | |
Joe plummeted into a crevasse. | 0:13:18 | 0:13:21 | |
I was damn near dead by then anyway. | 0:13:23 | 0:13:26 | |
I was really angry. I wanted to climb all over the world, | 0:13:26 | 0:13:29 | |
I wanted to live a lot longer than 25 and I didn't want to die | 0:13:29 | 0:13:32 | |
in a bloody crevasse on my own and I didn't want to... | 0:13:32 | 0:13:35 | |
..die crawling around, pissing myself, crying on rocks. | 0:13:36 | 0:13:41 | |
Joe survived and went on to climb many more mountains. | 0:13:41 | 0:13:45 | |
But with a permanently damaged right knee. | 0:13:45 | 0:13:48 | |
He retired from mountaineering in 2009. | 0:13:48 | 0:13:51 | |
Joe still bears the scars of that moment in his 20s. | 0:13:55 | 0:13:59 | |
His father, too, faced a life-changing experience, | 0:13:59 | 0:14:02 | |
carrying his own burdens from fighting the Japanese as a Chindit. | 0:14:02 | 0:14:07 | |
It's often said that | 0:14:07 | 0:14:09 | |
the rest of their lives they're a shadow of what they were, you know. | 0:14:09 | 0:14:12 | |
It was significant to him and if it hadn't been, | 0:14:12 | 0:14:15 | |
he wouldn't have written his diaries and his notes. | 0:14:15 | 0:14:19 | |
He wouldn't have so carefully annotated those maps. | 0:14:19 | 0:14:22 | |
It was almost as if he wanted someone to follow this journey. | 0:14:22 | 0:14:26 | |
By early afternoon, Joe and Ed want to set up camp, | 0:14:32 | 0:14:36 | |
but that means crossing the river to the mine-free zone. | 0:14:36 | 0:14:40 | |
If you go over a rapid, if you smash your head | 0:14:40 | 0:14:44 | |
and you're unconscious then it's a completely different ball game. | 0:14:44 | 0:14:48 | |
You can see here that the river is really quite fast-flowing | 0:14:49 | 0:14:53 | |
as it narrows and goes over the edge of the lip. | 0:14:53 | 0:14:56 | |
That's enough to sweep a man off his feet, definitely. | 0:14:56 | 0:15:00 | |
My bet actually is that we swim across in the pools, | 0:15:03 | 0:15:06 | |
I think they're much, much safer. | 0:15:06 | 0:15:08 | |
I was nearly killed in a river in Pakistan, | 0:15:09 | 0:15:12 | |
-and it scared the -BLEEP -out of me. | 0:15:12 | 0:15:14 | |
Despite being a self-confessed poor swimmer, Ed's in first. | 0:15:16 | 0:15:21 | |
In 2010, Ed set a world record for walking - not swimming - | 0:15:22 | 0:15:28 | |
the full length of the Amazon. | 0:15:28 | 0:15:30 | |
He crossed it countless times during his two-year expedition. | 0:15:31 | 0:15:35 | |
They're carrying 30 kilos on their backs. | 0:15:46 | 0:15:49 | |
I'm just going to see how buoyant this rucksack is before I jump in, | 0:15:50 | 0:15:54 | |
not wanting to sink like a stone. | 0:15:54 | 0:15:56 | |
Are you quite a good swimmer? | 0:15:58 | 0:16:00 | |
Not with a flippin' great rucksack on my back, but I was. | 0:16:01 | 0:16:04 | |
I'm going to have a little practice swim. | 0:16:04 | 0:16:07 | |
I'm trying. | 0:16:32 | 0:16:33 | |
I'm glad I did that. | 0:16:40 | 0:16:43 | |
I didn't realise how much when you try and swim with a rucksack... | 0:16:43 | 0:16:48 | |
it's pushing you under. | 0:16:48 | 0:16:50 | |
I saw your panic on your face, just stay upright and just do that... | 0:16:50 | 0:16:55 | |
Yeah, I know, I'm getting it. | 0:16:55 | 0:16:57 | |
Joe and Ed decide to try their luck below the rapids. | 0:17:03 | 0:17:06 | |
The Chindits crossed many rivers during their 17-week campaign, | 0:17:14 | 0:17:18 | |
losing men and mules to raging torrents. | 0:17:18 | 0:17:21 | |
When Ian Simpson's column tried to cross the Taiping | 0:17:25 | 0:17:28 | |
on the 25th of April 1944, | 0:17:28 | 0:17:30 | |
they found it impossible to swim across | 0:17:30 | 0:17:33 | |
and had to use a small bridge further downstream. | 0:17:33 | 0:17:36 | |
Nearby Japanese activity made it fraught and dangerous. | 0:17:39 | 0:17:43 | |
Just got to find a few trees. | 0:17:46 | 0:17:48 | |
One tree here, one tree there, that's a hammock spot already. | 0:17:51 | 0:17:55 | |
It's nice. | 0:17:55 | 0:17:57 | |
We're back out in the jungle, we've strung our hammocks up, | 0:18:09 | 0:18:12 | |
done a river crossing, | 0:18:12 | 0:18:13 | |
Joe's about to have a little fish. | 0:18:13 | 0:18:15 | |
He's just drying all the things that weren't in the waterproof bags | 0:18:15 | 0:18:18 | |
when he crossed the river. | 0:18:18 | 0:18:20 | |
And I think we're good, back in the game. | 0:18:20 | 0:18:23 | |
Joe's father's secret wartime diary describes just how tough | 0:18:33 | 0:18:37 | |
the conditions were for the Chindits in this same area. | 0:18:37 | 0:18:41 | |
He makes a reference to all of them being tired, hungry, lousy - | 0:18:42 | 0:18:46 | |
as in being bitten to death by lice, | 0:18:46 | 0:18:48 | |
they're all infested with lice - and long hard days, | 0:18:48 | 0:18:52 | |
carrying heavy loads up and down hills without food. | 0:18:52 | 0:18:56 | |
Joe's father's role was to organise supply drops, | 0:18:58 | 0:19:01 | |
essential to keep a mobile army like the Chindits on the move | 0:19:01 | 0:19:04 | |
and in the fight. | 0:19:04 | 0:19:07 | |
But bad weather and poor communications | 0:19:10 | 0:19:12 | |
often meant they went without. | 0:19:12 | 0:19:14 | |
Really, for the last four days, | 0:19:17 | 0:19:18 | |
they'd been having quite a bad time. | 0:19:18 | 0:19:21 | |
Big thunderstorms every afternoon with heavy rainfall | 0:19:21 | 0:19:24 | |
and that was cutting off their contact with the aircraft. | 0:19:24 | 0:19:28 | |
And at this point they ended up 48 hours without food | 0:19:28 | 0:19:32 | |
and Da says they took to digging up roots and cooking them. | 0:19:32 | 0:19:36 | |
He actually talks about trying to go fishing and falling in instead | 0:19:36 | 0:19:39 | |
and not catching anything. | 0:19:39 | 0:19:41 | |
I'm just going to go and see if I can find some of what | 0:20:00 | 0:20:03 | |
Joe's father describes in his journal. | 0:20:03 | 0:20:06 | |
His father refers to eating lots of shoots, | 0:20:06 | 0:20:10 | |
and I'm assuming that's bamboo shoots. | 0:20:10 | 0:20:12 | |
Round this area, Da said he found clear water. | 0:20:15 | 0:20:18 | |
This is the first clear water streams we've seen. | 0:20:18 | 0:20:21 | |
If I catch some fish, we're going to have a picnic. | 0:20:21 | 0:20:24 | |
There appears to be a little cave system. | 0:20:29 | 0:20:31 | |
You can just see. | 0:20:31 | 0:20:33 | |
It's dark and cool in here. | 0:20:33 | 0:20:34 | |
It's really nice, actually. | 0:20:34 | 0:20:36 | |
I've emerged out of that gully into just a... | 0:20:38 | 0:20:42 | |
A veritable field of bamboo above me. | 0:20:44 | 0:20:47 | |
He was a keen fisherman. | 0:20:47 | 0:20:49 | |
My earliest memory is going out on a boat with him, | 0:20:49 | 0:20:51 | |
I must have been really small, catching three-foot-long barracudas. | 0:20:51 | 0:20:57 | |
I remember fly-fishing in North Yorkshire with him | 0:20:58 | 0:21:00 | |
when I was about ten, | 0:21:00 | 0:21:02 | |
so, yeah, he was a keen fisherman, but this wasn't fishing for sport, | 0:21:02 | 0:21:05 | |
this was trying to get the fish out just any which way they could. | 0:21:05 | 0:21:10 | |
Get the fish, bring them back, feed the men. | 0:21:10 | 0:21:14 | |
And clearly if he was doing what I'm doing now, | 0:21:14 | 0:21:16 | |
he'd have been very hungry. | 0:21:16 | 0:21:18 | |
Every bamboo shoot that I see... it's a bit like cardboard, | 0:21:24 | 0:21:28 | |
it's just dead. | 0:21:28 | 0:21:31 | |
Maybe bamboo shoots is off the menu. | 0:21:31 | 0:21:33 | |
Nothing, not a squiggle. | 0:21:34 | 0:21:36 | |
That's it. | 0:21:37 | 0:21:39 | |
No fish tonight. | 0:21:39 | 0:21:40 | |
Unlike his father, who went hungry here, | 0:21:47 | 0:21:49 | |
Joe and Ed have rations to keep them going. | 0:21:49 | 0:21:52 | |
But the psychological effect on Ian Simpson | 0:21:55 | 0:21:57 | |
and the Chindits was profound. | 0:21:57 | 0:21:59 | |
You're a hidden army. | 0:22:04 | 0:22:06 | |
You're hiding up in the jungles and making lightning attacks. | 0:22:06 | 0:22:09 | |
You're constantly attacking and hiding, | 0:22:09 | 0:22:12 | |
attacking and hiding, attacking and hiding. | 0:22:12 | 0:22:14 | |
And that sense of sort of, | 0:22:14 | 0:22:16 | |
"Am I being chased, will I be found?" | 0:22:16 | 0:22:18 | |
I can imagine the psychological stress can weigh you down | 0:22:18 | 0:22:21 | |
as much as just the physical stress of every day getting up, | 0:22:21 | 0:22:26 | |
trying to march through this stuff. | 0:22:26 | 0:22:28 | |
You know, I've been in through some hairy places in Afghanistan | 0:22:28 | 0:22:31 | |
or in the Red Zone in Peru, actually when walking, | 0:22:31 | 0:22:34 | |
but where I've thought that my life was at threat, directly at threat, | 0:22:34 | 0:22:39 | |
and I think you can't underestimate how that saps you of energy | 0:22:39 | 0:22:44 | |
because you can't help but worry. | 0:22:44 | 0:22:48 | |
I don't care. If somebody says to you they are going to kill you, | 0:22:48 | 0:22:51 | |
you can't you can't go to bed and sleep well. | 0:22:51 | 0:22:54 | |
Just received a text message on the satellite phone to say that | 0:23:08 | 0:23:11 | |
apparently there's 100 troops have just arrived at the base | 0:23:11 | 0:23:15 | |
where we left off yesterday | 0:23:15 | 0:23:17 | |
and we've been ordered to return immediately. | 0:23:17 | 0:23:21 | |
Our military escort disappeared last night. | 0:23:32 | 0:23:36 | |
So we are picking our way down the side of the river | 0:23:36 | 0:23:38 | |
as best as we can remember, | 0:23:38 | 0:23:42 | |
but clearly... | 0:23:42 | 0:23:45 | |
we are still in the area of landmines and... | 0:23:45 | 0:23:48 | |
So I'm just being a little bit cautious. | 0:23:51 | 0:23:55 | |
Overnight hostilities between the KIA and the Burmese Army | 0:23:55 | 0:23:59 | |
have escalated just up the Taiping valley | 0:23:59 | 0:24:02 | |
and the local military commander wants Joe, Ed and the film crew | 0:24:02 | 0:24:06 | |
out of harm's way. | 0:24:06 | 0:24:08 | |
The military guys on the other side of the river. | 0:24:10 | 0:24:13 | |
Coming back into the military camp now. | 0:24:29 | 0:24:32 | |
Over 100 heavily armed soldiers are on their way to reinforce | 0:24:51 | 0:24:56 | |
a strategic hydroelectric dam further up the Taiping River. | 0:24:56 | 0:25:00 | |
Once again, Joe and Ed's plans are thwarted. | 0:25:02 | 0:25:06 | |
There's apparently KIA members on the banks of the Taiping | 0:25:06 | 0:25:10 | |
taking pot shots at military soldiers | 0:25:10 | 0:25:13 | |
so that they literally can't even go and fill up their water bottle, | 0:25:13 | 0:25:16 | |
and they've said there's no chance that we can go up the Taiping now, | 0:25:16 | 0:25:20 | |
it's just far too dangerous, basically. | 0:25:20 | 0:25:22 | |
They were very heavily armed. | 0:25:22 | 0:25:25 | |
They had 50 cal machine guns, light machine guns, mortars, RPGs, | 0:25:25 | 0:25:30 | |
they had the lot. They were seriously tooled up. | 0:25:30 | 0:25:33 | |
They looked like they were going into battle, quite frankly. | 0:25:33 | 0:25:36 | |
We seem to have walked into a war. | 0:25:36 | 0:25:39 | |
We have walked into a war. | 0:25:39 | 0:25:40 | |
We better walk out of it | 0:25:40 | 0:25:42 | |
Joe and Ed are almost halfway along Ian Simpson's track, | 0:25:50 | 0:25:53 | |
but now they're having to walk further down | 0:25:53 | 0:25:56 | |
the Taiping River valley. | 0:25:56 | 0:25:58 | |
It's taking them out of harm's way, | 0:25:58 | 0:26:00 | |
but also further from where Joe's father and the Chindits were, | 0:26:00 | 0:26:04 | |
high up on the ridges that look down on the Bhamo-Myitkyina road. | 0:26:04 | 0:26:07 | |
This is the river that Da crossed, he crossed 20 miles up there, | 0:26:21 | 0:26:25 | |
up in the hills where we can't go to so, this is as close as we can get. | 0:26:25 | 0:26:33 | |
Which is a shame, but you get some sense if you look up on the skyline | 0:26:34 | 0:26:38 | |
of the mountainous jungle ridges, that's where he was moving. | 0:26:38 | 0:26:43 | |
The Chindits used the high ridgeline as their base of operations, | 0:26:45 | 0:26:49 | |
ambushing Japanese positions along the main road | 0:26:49 | 0:26:52 | |
which runs parallel to the ridge. | 0:26:52 | 0:26:54 | |
They were actually relatively safe from the enemy up there. | 0:26:55 | 0:26:59 | |
In many ways this forest, which I found intimidating | 0:26:59 | 0:27:02 | |
and claustrophobic and horrible to move through, became their friend. | 0:27:02 | 0:27:08 | |
With the fighting between the military and the KIA escalating, | 0:27:12 | 0:27:16 | |
Joe and Ed can't get to where his father was, but they can walk along | 0:27:16 | 0:27:20 | |
the road that the Chindits were trying to disrupt. | 0:27:20 | 0:27:23 | |
It's the front line in today's battle. | 0:27:24 | 0:27:27 | |
It's taking them past yet more minefields. | 0:27:30 | 0:27:33 | |
Got a flag here, mate, on the left-hand side. | 0:27:35 | 0:27:37 | |
-Mines? -Mines, yeah. | 0:27:37 | 0:27:40 | |
Fortified military positions... | 0:27:45 | 0:27:48 | |
Look at the door, it's a spiked door. | 0:27:48 | 0:27:51 | |
It just drops shut, you can't get through. | 0:27:51 | 0:27:53 | |
..fences blocking jungle paths... | 0:27:53 | 0:27:55 | |
It's just so crude though, | 0:27:56 | 0:27:58 | |
rather than barbed wire you've got sharpened sticks and bamboo. | 0:27:58 | 0:28:03 | |
It's brutal. | 0:28:03 | 0:28:05 | |
..and deserted villages. | 0:28:06 | 0:28:09 | |
It's all abandoned, it's quite sad, really. | 0:28:09 | 0:28:12 | |
Five decades of fighting across the whole of Myanmar | 0:28:12 | 0:28:15 | |
has displaced hundreds of thousands of people. | 0:28:15 | 0:28:18 | |
This one's even got the front door open. | 0:28:20 | 0:28:23 | |
Don't worry about the landmines, Ed. | 0:28:28 | 0:28:30 | |
It's still in one piece, it hasn't been deserted long, has it? | 0:28:30 | 0:28:35 | |
Depressing. | 0:28:39 | 0:28:41 | |
It's quite eerie. | 0:28:46 | 0:28:48 | |
What I do think is amazing coming out of the trees is | 0:29:01 | 0:29:06 | |
the ability to see, it's almost like a release, I suppose. | 0:29:06 | 0:29:13 | |
Oh, that's nice, just the ability to have a view, | 0:29:13 | 0:29:16 | |
to see more than ten metres is making me smile. | 0:29:16 | 0:29:19 | |
-Big country though, isn't it? -Huge. | 0:29:19 | 0:29:22 | |
After the frustrations of the past few days, finally Joe and Ed | 0:29:23 | 0:29:27 | |
have a chance to reconnect with his father's journey. | 0:29:27 | 0:29:31 | |
Below, on the flood plain, is the village of Nalone | 0:29:31 | 0:29:34 | |
that the Chindits attacked in April 1944 - one of the few places | 0:29:34 | 0:29:38 | |
villagers haven't fled from along the main road. | 0:29:38 | 0:29:41 | |
We've just come down to the village of Nalone | 0:29:43 | 0:29:46 | |
and we need to find somewhere to stay. | 0:29:46 | 0:29:49 | |
As recently as 2011, it was occupied by the KIA | 0:29:52 | 0:29:56 | |
and the government planes bombed the village. | 0:29:56 | 0:29:59 | |
DOG BARKS | 0:29:59 | 0:30:00 | |
Shut up. Shh. | 0:30:00 | 0:30:03 | |
Don't even think about it. | 0:30:03 | 0:30:05 | |
ED LAUGHS | 0:30:05 | 0:30:06 | |
I'm not in the mood. | 0:30:08 | 0:30:10 | |
In the Spring of 1944, | 0:30:12 | 0:30:14 | |
the village housed a Japanese garrison. | 0:30:14 | 0:30:17 | |
It was an important target. | 0:30:17 | 0:30:19 | |
-Mingalaba. -Mingalaba. | 0:30:19 | 0:30:22 | |
Is it OK to put these hammocks over there? | 0:30:22 | 0:30:25 | |
Yet, despite all they've been through, | 0:30:25 | 0:30:28 | |
they still welcome strangers with open arms. | 0:30:28 | 0:30:31 | |
HE SPEAKS LOCAL LANGUAGE | 0:30:33 | 0:30:35 | |
OK, these guys have very, very kindly allowed us to | 0:30:35 | 0:30:38 | |
string our hammocks up around their well. | 0:30:38 | 0:30:40 | |
OK, mate, you put yours up on that side, I'll put mine on that side. | 0:30:40 | 0:30:44 | |
We've heard that the old lady was a nine-year-old girl when | 0:30:46 | 0:30:50 | |
the Chindits were here | 0:30:50 | 0:30:52 | |
and apparently there's a bomb crater in the village. | 0:30:52 | 0:30:55 | |
86-year-old Daw Tawnt was a young girl in 1944. | 0:30:58 | 0:31:03 | |
Were you scared when fighting was taking place? | 0:31:29 | 0:31:32 | |
Is there any evidence of the war still left here in the village? | 0:31:45 | 0:31:50 | |
Were you angry with the British and the Japanese, | 0:31:57 | 0:32:00 | |
that they were fighting in your beautiful country, | 0:32:00 | 0:32:04 | |
in the middle of your peaceful village? | 0:32:04 | 0:32:06 | |
In April 1944, the Chindits ordered an airstrike on | 0:32:43 | 0:32:47 | |
the Japanese garrison in the village. | 0:32:47 | 0:32:49 | |
An account written at the time by Terence O'Brien | 0:32:52 | 0:32:55 | |
captures what happened. | 0:32:55 | 0:32:57 | |
"The last remnants of the night mists | 0:32:57 | 0:32:59 | |
"were being swirled away by the rising sun. | 0:32:59 | 0:33:01 | |
"A few columns of cigarette-blue smoke rose vertically in the air | 0:33:01 | 0:33:05 | |
"above the tranquil village. | 0:33:05 | 0:33:07 | |
"I could see a woman in a classical pose of arms upright | 0:33:07 | 0:33:10 | |
"to a terracotta pot on the head | 0:33:10 | 0:33:12 | |
"moved back towards us from the river. | 0:33:12 | 0:33:14 | |
"When you thought of the death-loaded aircraft, | 0:33:16 | 0:33:18 | |
"now thundering towards the peaceful village, | 0:33:18 | 0:33:20 | |
"you wanted no part of this sort of thing. | 0:33:20 | 0:33:23 | |
"The destruction of the village was a terrible thing to watch. | 0:33:25 | 0:33:28 | |
"You could see the houses splinter and shiver under the cannon fire, | 0:33:28 | 0:33:32 | |
"and when it was all over, there was no more blue smoke rising gently | 0:33:32 | 0:33:35 | |
"from the scene, but black clouds of it churning up into the sky | 0:33:35 | 0:33:38 | |
"and spreading over the plain to the west." | 0:33:38 | 0:33:40 | |
Hard to believe, really. | 0:33:43 | 0:33:45 | |
HE CLEARS HIS THROAT | 0:33:45 | 0:33:47 | |
Very. | 0:33:47 | 0:33:49 | |
The Japanese had chosen to set up a barracks here, | 0:33:50 | 0:33:53 | |
so they were a legitimate target. | 0:33:53 | 0:33:55 | |
And as always in war | 0:33:55 | 0:33:56 | |
it's the civilians who get stuck in the middle. | 0:33:56 | 0:33:59 | |
And then when you come to the present situation today and you see | 0:33:59 | 0:34:02 | |
this same Myitkyina-Bhamo road is blocked all the way along by | 0:34:02 | 0:34:06 | |
the Burmese Army, and you think | 0:34:06 | 0:34:08 | |
"You're in exactly the same position as the Japanese, | 0:34:08 | 0:34:10 | |
"all you own is the road." It's uncannily the same, actually. | 0:34:10 | 0:34:15 | |
And it's desperately sad that these people have just been stuck | 0:34:15 | 0:34:19 | |
in this conflict for 70 years. | 0:34:19 | 0:34:21 | |
And I've got to say, they're some of the most... | 0:34:21 | 0:34:24 | |
I don't know, loveliest people I've ever met. | 0:34:24 | 0:34:27 | |
They say the first casualty of war is truth, | 0:34:29 | 0:34:32 | |
well, the second casualty of war are the civilians, really, | 0:34:32 | 0:34:35 | |
and that's never, ever changed. | 0:34:35 | 0:34:37 | |
Today, all that remains of those bloody days is the bomb crater. | 0:34:53 | 0:34:57 | |
It looks like a village pond! Just needs some ducks, mate. | 0:34:59 | 0:35:03 | |
Yeah, it's quite a big crater, really. | 0:35:05 | 0:35:07 | |
They said that they went in and dug the shell casing out | 0:35:07 | 0:35:10 | |
and used the metal to make woks and pans and stuff. | 0:35:10 | 0:35:13 | |
To make frying pans. Yeah, they did. | 0:35:13 | 0:35:15 | |
So, this here could be the only physical evidence | 0:35:16 | 0:35:18 | |
that's still left today. | 0:35:18 | 0:35:20 | |
What's poignant is the thought of a whole wing | 0:35:22 | 0:35:25 | |
of P-51 Mustang fighter bombers, sweeping down this valley, | 0:35:25 | 0:35:29 | |
dropping 250, 500lb bombs and the villagers | 0:35:29 | 0:35:31 | |
running for the hills. | 0:35:31 | 0:35:34 | |
I mean, the villages are, almost, medieval agricultural community | 0:35:34 | 0:35:39 | |
and these were the most advanced... warplanes in the world. | 0:35:39 | 0:35:43 | |
I mean, that would have been bloody awful for them. | 0:35:43 | 0:35:47 | |
They must've been just utterly confused. | 0:35:50 | 0:35:53 | |
-If I sleep on my back I snore like a dog, as you noticed. -Yeah. | 0:36:08 | 0:36:12 | |
Yeah, yeah. I do, yeah. | 0:36:14 | 0:36:15 | |
-I haven't been snoring the last few nights? -You have. -Oh. | 0:36:16 | 0:36:19 | |
Back on track, the ever present jungle is uppermost | 0:36:27 | 0:36:30 | |
in their thoughts. | 0:36:30 | 0:36:31 | |
There's no hiding the fact, that you know, 70% of the guys here | 0:36:33 | 0:36:38 | |
died from jungle related diseases. | 0:36:38 | 0:36:40 | |
So Joe's father would have | 0:36:40 | 0:36:42 | |
experienced horrendous atrocities. Literally watching his friends | 0:36:42 | 0:36:45 | |
that would have loved each other and they would watched each other die. | 0:36:45 | 0:36:48 | |
That must have had a big impact on him. | 0:36:48 | 0:36:51 | |
A big, big, emotional, psychological impact. | 0:36:51 | 0:36:55 | |
He cannot fail to have gone home with some scars. | 0:36:59 | 0:37:03 | |
Some really, really, really big scars. | 0:37:03 | 0:37:05 | |
I think he was very proud to have been a Chindit. | 0:37:07 | 0:37:09 | |
And you'd think that, if that was the case, | 0:37:11 | 0:37:13 | |
then he'd be proud to tell his son. | 0:37:13 | 0:37:15 | |
But Da wasn't that good with emotion, really. | 0:37:20 | 0:37:22 | |
Didn't give much away. | 0:37:25 | 0:37:27 | |
I had all that time when he was ill | 0:37:27 | 0:37:30 | |
towards the end, where I could have just sat down with his diaries | 0:37:30 | 0:37:33 | |
and said "Explain this. What happened there? What happened here?" | 0:37:33 | 0:37:36 | |
I didn't. | 0:37:36 | 0:37:38 | |
I can't believe I didn't. | 0:37:41 | 0:37:43 | |
Ed's relationship with his parents was difficult, too. | 0:37:45 | 0:37:48 | |
He was given up for adoption by his teenage mother. | 0:37:48 | 0:37:51 | |
My birth mother and birth father stayed together | 0:37:52 | 0:37:56 | |
and they had two more sons, so I've got two full brothers. | 0:37:56 | 0:38:00 | |
So, did they have you when they were very poor, where they couldn't...? | 0:38:00 | 0:38:03 | |
Yeah. My mum was 15. | 0:38:03 | 0:38:05 | |
It's quite mad. I've got two brothers, | 0:38:05 | 0:38:07 | |
one ten years younger than me, one 12 years younger than me. | 0:38:07 | 0:38:10 | |
-Pretty weird, isn't it? -It's bonkers, yeah. | 0:38:10 | 0:38:12 | |
You never met them? | 0:38:12 | 0:38:13 | |
-Yeah, yeah, I've met them now, we're good mates. -Really? -Yeah, yeah. | 0:38:13 | 0:38:16 | |
-Oh, that's neat, isn't it? -Yeah. Yeah. | 0:38:16 | 0:38:18 | |
That's brilliant. | 0:38:18 | 0:38:19 | |
After days of skirting around the troubles, | 0:38:21 | 0:38:24 | |
following the road so often fought over, | 0:38:24 | 0:38:27 | |
finally, Joe and Ed are back on track, heading up to the ridgeline. | 0:38:27 | 0:38:30 | |
We're going to point 60 today, which is right on top of a hill. | 0:38:32 | 0:38:36 | |
So, it's gonna be, it's gonna be a bit of a cheeky climb this morning. | 0:38:36 | 0:38:39 | |
Um, we've not got permission to stay at the top | 0:38:39 | 0:38:41 | |
because of the tensions, at the moment, | 0:38:41 | 0:38:44 | |
so we're going to have to go up there | 0:38:44 | 0:38:45 | |
and come back down the same day. | 0:38:45 | 0:38:47 | |
So, quite a long day. | 0:38:47 | 0:38:48 | |
I can imagine him doing it, yeah, | 0:39:04 | 0:39:07 | |
and, er... | 0:39:07 | 0:39:10 | |
with hundreds of men, in a single column, | 0:39:10 | 0:39:13 | |
in the monsoon, of course, pouring rain, | 0:39:13 | 0:39:17 | |
would have made this absolute hell. | 0:39:17 | 0:39:19 | |
Must have been dreadful, | 0:39:21 | 0:39:23 | |
I cannot imagine marching, heavily laden, round these jungles | 0:39:23 | 0:39:28 | |
in a monsoon, let alone... | 0:39:28 | 0:39:31 | |
trying to fight an enemy, much greater than your size. | 0:39:31 | 0:39:38 | |
-BREATHLESS: -Really quite unimaginable. | 0:39:38 | 0:39:41 | |
Got to be near the top of this sometime soon, I think. | 0:39:49 | 0:39:52 | |
Steep hill, 1,000 feet in... | 0:40:08 | 0:40:11 | |
..two kilometres, so...warm. | 0:40:13 | 0:40:15 | |
Kind of cheeky, isn't it? | 0:40:15 | 0:40:17 | |
As soon as went from the paddy fields into the forest | 0:40:17 | 0:40:20 | |
there was... You're just hit by this coldness, this fresh air. | 0:40:20 | 0:40:24 | |
It's so much cooler under the canopy, | 0:40:24 | 0:40:26 | |
but the hill is steep, really steep. | 0:40:26 | 0:40:29 | |
-OK. Go for it, Joe. -You go first. -OK. | 0:40:30 | 0:40:33 | |
Oh, wow! | 0:40:39 | 0:40:41 | |
Look at this! | 0:40:41 | 0:40:43 | |
HE LAUGHS | 0:40:43 | 0:40:44 | |
Ah! | 0:40:45 | 0:40:47 | |
Look at this! | 0:40:47 | 0:40:49 | |
Wow! That's a view. | 0:40:51 | 0:40:53 | |
That is an extraordinary view. | 0:40:54 | 0:40:56 | |
Down below is the plain of the Irrawaddy River, | 0:40:57 | 0:41:00 | |
as it flows past Myitkyina | 0:41:00 | 0:41:02 | |
and the small towns of Maingnar and Waimaw. | 0:41:02 | 0:41:04 | |
Waimaw is the first village they attacked. | 0:41:07 | 0:41:10 | |
They just, basically, went down into the plain | 0:41:10 | 0:41:13 | |
and pretty much walked single file, straight into the town. | 0:41:13 | 0:41:16 | |
Met quite a bit of resistance. | 0:41:16 | 0:41:18 | |
Of course, militarily, it was just bloody stupid. | 0:41:18 | 0:41:22 | |
It was stupid. A lot of men died. | 0:41:22 | 0:41:24 | |
Joe's father's diary records the events of the time. | 0:41:29 | 0:41:33 | |
"Tuesday, 30th of May. | 0:41:33 | 0:41:35 | |
"Mustangs pasted hell out of Maingnar North, all day. | 0:41:35 | 0:41:39 | |
"Very tough nut to crack." | 0:41:43 | 0:41:45 | |
It must have been very satisfying | 0:41:51 | 0:41:52 | |
when you've been staggering around in the jungle, | 0:41:52 | 0:41:54 | |
just to sit here and watch the enemy just getting blown to pieces. | 0:41:54 | 0:41:57 | |
They had air support, but, um, it wasn't perfect air support, | 0:41:57 | 0:42:01 | |
because he describes watching a C-47, | 0:42:01 | 0:42:04 | |
a Dakota, being shot down in flames... | 0:42:04 | 0:42:06 | |
..by six Japanese Zeros, which were fighter planes. | 0:42:09 | 0:42:11 | |
So they, they weren't having it all their own way. | 0:42:11 | 0:42:13 | |
It's quite noticeable in the diaries that, up until now, | 0:42:13 | 0:42:16 | |
occasionally somebody gets ambushed and somebody gets wounded, | 0:42:16 | 0:42:19 | |
but it's just a continual list | 0:42:19 | 0:42:20 | |
of wounded and killed from now on, which shows how the war had changed. | 0:42:20 | 0:42:24 | |
-How many years ago did your dad die? -Um. Good question. | 0:42:27 | 0:42:30 | |
He was 86. Um...um, born in 1922. | 0:42:31 | 0:42:35 | |
Yeah, doesn't seem that long ago. | 0:42:35 | 0:42:37 | |
It's odd that, isn't it? | 0:42:39 | 0:42:41 | |
When people die, how fast time goes by. | 0:42:41 | 0:42:43 | |
Particularly, when Da went, | 0:42:43 | 0:42:46 | |
I felt more alone in the world. | 0:42:46 | 0:42:48 | |
Mmm. | 0:42:48 | 0:42:50 | |
I regret never telling my father what I thought of him. | 0:42:50 | 0:42:52 | |
I mean, you know, without being schoolboy-ish, or anything,... | 0:42:52 | 0:42:56 | |
..I thought he was a hero to me. | 0:42:59 | 0:43:01 | |
We're just one of those bloody families who don't talk. | 0:43:02 | 0:43:06 | |
And, actually, if I had said | 0:43:06 | 0:43:08 | |
something like that, he would've just been embarrassed... | 0:43:08 | 0:43:11 | |
So... | 0:43:12 | 0:43:14 | |
So, yeah, there's regrets like that. | 0:43:15 | 0:43:17 | |
I'd written seven books, for God's sake, | 0:43:17 | 0:43:19 | |
and only discovered years later that he'd read all of them. | 0:43:19 | 0:43:24 | |
Had to discover from my sister. | 0:43:24 | 0:43:27 | |
And he never said a word. | 0:43:27 | 0:43:29 | |
He never said a bloody word to me. | 0:43:29 | 0:43:31 | |
Can you imagine if your son wrote a book? | 0:43:31 | 0:43:33 | |
Doesn't matter, even if it was a terrible book, | 0:43:33 | 0:43:35 | |
but if it was a bestselling, world, bestselling book... | 0:43:35 | 0:43:38 | |
And he never even told you that. | 0:43:38 | 0:43:39 | |
He could at least say, "Well done, son." | 0:43:39 | 0:43:42 | |
Or, you know, "I read it." You wouldn't read all of his books | 0:43:42 | 0:43:44 | |
and then not say a single word! | 0:43:44 | 0:43:46 | |
Go figure. | 0:43:46 | 0:43:48 | |
That's quite an insight, actually, isn't it? | 0:43:50 | 0:43:53 | |
-Wouldn't tell you he loved you, then? -Never did, no. No. | 0:43:53 | 0:43:56 | |
Don't even know he did, for that matter. | 0:43:57 | 0:43:59 | |
But, you know, it sounds as if I'm criticising him. | 0:44:01 | 0:44:04 | |
That's just how he was, you know. | 0:44:04 | 0:44:06 | |
He was a good father, he was a good man. | 0:44:06 | 0:44:08 | |
I think he was a good soldier. | 0:44:08 | 0:44:10 | |
On Tuesday 30th of May 1944, Joe's father walked straight up | 0:44:27 | 0:44:32 | |
this road to attack the small village of Waimaw | 0:44:32 | 0:44:34 | |
and its heavily entrenched Japanese garrison. | 0:44:34 | 0:44:37 | |
Back then, it was a dirt track | 0:44:39 | 0:44:41 | |
and the noise would have been of war, not hustle and bustle. | 0:44:41 | 0:44:44 | |
It's a bit unreal to think that my father | 0:44:54 | 0:44:56 | |
came marching up this road, taking out Japanese bunkers, | 0:44:56 | 0:44:59 | |
and got to this crossroads, | 0:44:59 | 0:45:01 | |
at which point they'd pretty much run out of ammunition | 0:45:01 | 0:45:04 | |
and had to retreat all the way back, | 0:45:04 | 0:45:06 | |
and then came back and attacked it the next day | 0:45:06 | 0:45:09 | |
and consequently took quite heavy casualties. | 0:45:09 | 0:45:12 | |
But they couldn't take... take the town. | 0:45:12 | 0:45:15 | |
They just didn't have enough men. | 0:45:15 | 0:45:17 | |
The Chindits were nearly three months into their campaign | 0:45:18 | 0:45:22 | |
and by now were exhausted, malnourished, | 0:45:22 | 0:45:25 | |
and suffering with various tropical diseases. | 0:45:25 | 0:45:27 | |
Looking at Da's diaries, | 0:45:29 | 0:45:30 | |
it wasn't a well-planned, well-coordinated attack. | 0:45:30 | 0:45:33 | |
Over 70 years ago, the Chindits faced | 0:45:34 | 0:45:36 | |
some of their toughest fighting to date, | 0:45:36 | 0:45:39 | |
and, today, Joe and Ed are facing the reality | 0:45:39 | 0:45:42 | |
of the ongoing post-election conflict. | 0:45:42 | 0:45:45 | |
Slightly ominously, we've just been called in to a meeting. | 0:45:46 | 0:45:49 | |
It would appear that the situation is deteriorating quite rapidly | 0:45:49 | 0:45:52 | |
So we may have to move out of here. | 0:45:52 | 0:45:54 | |
We've been told that we were on curfew for 24 hours, | 0:45:54 | 0:45:56 | |
but I think it's gone beyond that. | 0:45:56 | 0:45:58 | |
The local fixers are sharing the latest news | 0:45:58 | 0:46:00 | |
about the fighting between the rebels | 0:46:00 | 0:46:02 | |
and the government. | 0:46:02 | 0:46:03 | |
So, what are you hearing? What's happening and where? | 0:46:05 | 0:46:08 | |
Actually, Kachin State, Shan State, so the Burmese military | 0:46:08 | 0:46:12 | |
and the Kachin military and Shan military, they are fighting. | 0:46:12 | 0:46:17 | |
They lost lives from both sides. | 0:46:18 | 0:46:21 | |
So it's all on Facebook, local news. | 0:46:21 | 0:46:24 | |
The fighting's contained within restricted local hot spots | 0:46:25 | 0:46:29 | |
in northeast Myanmar. | 0:46:29 | 0:46:30 | |
There are rumours of up to 8,000 refugees fleeing the danger zones. | 0:46:30 | 0:46:34 | |
As a result of the increasing violence, | 0:46:36 | 0:46:38 | |
the film crew have been banned | 0:46:38 | 0:46:40 | |
from travelling back down the Bhamo-Myitkyina road. | 0:46:40 | 0:46:43 | |
And the local porters, mostly from areas near the fighting, | 0:46:44 | 0:46:47 | |
want to leave so that they can get back to their homes. | 0:46:47 | 0:46:51 | |
We should let them go to their families | 0:46:51 | 0:46:54 | |
and I think the sensible thing for all of us, is to go to Myitkyina. | 0:46:54 | 0:46:58 | |
We should just get over the bridge | 0:46:58 | 0:47:00 | |
so, at least, we're near the international airport. | 0:47:00 | 0:47:02 | |
It would appear that the situation is deteriorating rapidly. | 0:47:02 | 0:47:06 | |
I laugh, but it's turning into a fairly serious situation. | 0:47:08 | 0:47:12 | |
The team have two hours to get out of town. | 0:47:14 | 0:47:17 | |
For now, the trip is over. | 0:47:17 | 0:47:19 | |
This is the Burmese Army flexing its muscles, | 0:47:19 | 0:47:22 | |
showing how important it is after the election, | 0:47:22 | 0:47:24 | |
showing that they're needed, showing that they're a security force. | 0:47:24 | 0:47:27 | |
Unfortunately, to do this, | 0:47:27 | 0:47:29 | |
they're killing people, on both sides. | 0:47:29 | 0:47:31 | |
Two days later and there's news about one of the villages | 0:47:51 | 0:47:54 | |
that welcomed them en route. | 0:47:54 | 0:47:56 | |
The little village of Nalone, which we were in only a few days ago, | 0:47:57 | 0:48:01 | |
apparently, there's three tanks now in the village | 0:48:01 | 0:48:04 | |
and the military are occupying it. | 0:48:04 | 0:48:06 | |
And, erm, that's quite...that's quite shocking to be told. | 0:48:06 | 0:48:12 | |
Well, it was only a few days ago we were interviewing an old woman | 0:48:13 | 0:48:16 | |
who said she'd spent her entire life ready to move | 0:48:16 | 0:48:21 | |
and she'd moved countless times, you know, and three days later, | 0:48:21 | 0:48:26 | |
she's moving again. Yeah, that's...it's desperately sad. | 0:48:26 | 0:48:30 | |
It's sad for all of them. | 0:48:30 | 0:48:31 | |
The fact that we'd, you know, been presented by | 0:48:31 | 0:48:35 | |
nothing but smiles and openness and happiness. | 0:48:35 | 0:48:38 | |
To know that the army's gone in there now and occupied it, | 0:48:38 | 0:48:42 | |
having been told how... | 0:48:42 | 0:48:44 | |
How they behave when they do go and occupy, | 0:48:44 | 0:48:47 | |
I think that's very shocking. | 0:48:47 | 0:48:48 | |
Whilst Joe and Ed are stranded in Myitkyina, | 0:48:56 | 0:48:59 | |
by sheer luck they meet 101-year-old Dawng Gawn Tang. | 0:48:59 | 0:49:04 | |
I'm very pleased to meet you. | 0:49:04 | 0:49:06 | |
He served with the Chindits during World War II. | 0:49:06 | 0:49:08 | |
Was the fighting frightening for you at the time? | 0:49:32 | 0:49:34 | |
Over the next few days, the situation calms down, | 0:50:30 | 0:50:34 | |
Joe and Ed venture out once more, on the final leg of their journey | 0:50:34 | 0:50:39 | |
deep into the heart of Burma, | 0:50:39 | 0:50:40 | |
following Ian Simpson's wartime path, heading for point 68. | 0:50:40 | 0:50:45 | |
It's quite emotional, really, thinking about it. | 0:50:47 | 0:50:51 | |
This was the bloody end and they took a lot of losses. | 0:50:51 | 0:50:54 | |
A lot of casualties. | 0:50:54 | 0:50:56 | |
I mean, there's one reference in the diaries to 23 wounded and four dead, | 0:50:56 | 0:51:01 | |
and, of course, those wounded, not all those would have survived. | 0:51:01 | 0:51:05 | |
Now, point 68 is a sleepy cattle wallow, | 0:51:12 | 0:51:16 | |
but back in 1944, it was the scene of another bloody battle. | 0:51:16 | 0:51:22 | |
We're here, this is it. | 0:51:22 | 0:51:24 | |
This is where my father's commanding officer, Major Monteith, was killed. | 0:51:28 | 0:51:34 | |
He ran into a Japanese ambush, | 0:51:34 | 0:51:38 | |
machine-gun post, and... | 0:51:38 | 0:51:41 | |
he was wounded and a Japanese officer ran out | 0:51:41 | 0:51:46 | |
and decapitated him with a sword. | 0:51:46 | 0:51:49 | |
So, so close to the end and he just died like that, seems a great shame. | 0:51:49 | 0:51:54 | |
But within a week of this attack, | 0:51:57 | 0:52:01 | |
Da had succumbed to what he called scrub typhus, | 0:52:01 | 0:52:05 | |
he had a temperature of 101 and he was very ill | 0:52:05 | 0:52:09 | |
and he was flown out from here to India. | 0:52:09 | 0:52:12 | |
He nearly died, actually. | 0:52:13 | 0:52:15 | |
All his hair fell out, and six or seven days later, | 0:52:15 | 0:52:19 | |
the rest of the Chindits flew out after him and that was the end of it | 0:52:19 | 0:52:23 | |
and, as Da says in his diaries, "Here endeth the lesson." | 0:52:23 | 0:52:26 | |
When the Chindits were finally evacuated back to India, | 0:52:27 | 0:52:31 | |
medical officers discovered that well over 50% of the survivors | 0:52:31 | 0:52:35 | |
weren't fit for active duty | 0:52:35 | 0:52:37 | |
and many of them were never fit enough to return to duty again. | 0:52:37 | 0:52:41 | |
For many, the psychological wounds would last a lifetime. | 0:52:41 | 0:52:46 | |
The amount of death | 0:52:46 | 0:52:48 | |
and the amount of aggressive death that they would have seen | 0:52:48 | 0:52:52 | |
would have been very difficult for any mind to process, really. | 0:52:52 | 0:52:55 | |
This was back in the day where you just got on with life, you know, | 0:52:55 | 0:52:58 | |
you just didn't go there, really, | 0:52:58 | 0:53:01 | |
because it was a dark, scary place to go, | 0:53:01 | 0:53:03 | |
so I would have thought that people would have come out of this campaign | 0:53:03 | 0:53:06 | |
very affected, yeah. | 0:53:06 | 0:53:09 | |
After one final push... | 0:53:30 | 0:53:32 | |
..Joe and Ed arrive at one of Ian Simpson's last camps in Burma. | 0:53:34 | 0:53:38 | |
Right, we could just literally set the tarps up down here | 0:53:40 | 0:53:44 | |
and just sleep on the ground, don't you think? | 0:53:44 | 0:53:46 | |
They are going to camp one last night, | 0:53:48 | 0:53:51 | |
at the same place that Joe's father did some 70 years ago. | 0:53:51 | 0:53:56 | |
I'll stay further away because you were snoring. | 0:53:56 | 0:54:00 | |
YOU were snoring, you mean! | 0:54:01 | 0:54:02 | |
JOE LAUGHS | 0:54:02 | 0:54:04 | |
Cheeky...! | 0:54:04 | 0:54:05 | |
Em...I suspect that Ed is doing it rather more efficiently than me. | 0:54:10 | 0:54:16 | |
-Eh? -The pegs go in quite easy. | 0:54:16 | 0:54:19 | |
He's made pegs. | 0:54:20 | 0:54:21 | |
All right, pegs, OK, pegs. | 0:54:27 | 0:54:31 | |
For Joe, this trip is the culmination of a 37-year dream. | 0:54:57 | 0:55:01 | |
I wish I had done it when Da was still alive. | 0:55:05 | 0:55:07 | |
I wish we had been closer. | 0:55:08 | 0:55:10 | |
I wish we had a different relationship. | 0:55:11 | 0:55:14 | |
I wish we could have talked. | 0:55:17 | 0:55:19 | |
I wish I could have shared the things I did in my life with him. | 0:55:25 | 0:55:29 | |
Because he gave me that life and... I owe him everything. | 0:55:32 | 0:55:36 | |
I wish I could have told him what I thought of him. | 0:55:39 | 0:55:42 | |
How proud I was of him. | 0:55:45 | 0:55:46 | |
It's like I've said goodbye, really. | 0:55:50 | 0:55:52 | |
And what I really wanted to do was say hello. | 0:55:54 | 0:55:56 | |
There were nearly 74,000 Commonwealth casualties in Burma | 0:56:12 | 0:56:16 | |
fighting the Japanese, who finally surrendered in 1945. | 0:56:16 | 0:56:20 | |
The memories of this bloody time rest with a few remaining veterans, | 0:56:22 | 0:56:26 | |
with the words in diaries like Joe's father's | 0:56:26 | 0:56:30 | |
and at places like Yangon's War Memorial. | 0:56:30 | 0:56:33 | |
4th Gurkha Rifles. | 0:56:35 | 0:56:37 | |
17th of July. | 0:56:38 | 0:56:39 | |
It's... It's quite strange, seeing these graves here, | 0:56:41 | 0:56:45 | |
to recognise the names and the dates | 0:56:45 | 0:56:48 | |
that correlate exactly with Da's diaries. | 0:56:48 | 0:56:51 | |
The diary suddenly becomes much more real, desperately sad. | 0:56:52 | 0:56:56 | |
Look at these names on the walls, | 0:56:59 | 0:57:01 | |
these are just the soldiers whose bodies were never found, | 0:57:01 | 0:57:04 | |
there's 27,000 of them. | 0:57:04 | 0:57:06 | |
It's the end of quite a long journey, actually. | 0:57:10 | 0:57:14 | |
A sort of a fitting end, really. | 0:57:14 | 0:57:16 | |
I've got a much better idea of what he went through. | 0:57:19 | 0:57:23 | |
Only...a tiny idea, really, | 0:57:25 | 0:57:30 | |
but it's turned into a goodbye, really. | 0:57:30 | 0:57:34 | |
So... | 0:57:35 | 0:57:37 | |
oddly enough, it's led to something that I'd never really expected, | 0:57:37 | 0:57:41 | |
which was understanding that something rather more important | 0:57:41 | 0:57:44 | |
than my obsessive desire to follow the Chindits | 0:57:44 | 0:57:47 | |
was happening all around us. | 0:57:47 | 0:57:49 | |
You know, this was a momentous, historical time. | 0:57:49 | 0:57:52 | |
In a funny way, | 0:57:53 | 0:57:54 | |
rather more significant than the old, dead history of my father, | 0:57:54 | 0:57:58 | |
and I think he would think the same, as well, actually. | 0:57:58 | 0:58:02 | |
I didn't expect to be as moved or as touched by the people of Burma. | 0:58:06 | 0:58:11 | |
It's seeing such generosity and openness of hearts | 0:58:14 | 0:58:17 | |
after you know that they've suffered, | 0:58:17 | 0:58:19 | |
that's what has just blown me away | 0:58:19 | 0:58:21 | |
and that's, I suppose, a lesson in just the human spirit, really. | 0:58:21 | 0:58:26 | |
It's extraordinary. | 0:58:26 | 0:58:28 | |
To me, the star was the country and the people. | 0:58:28 | 0:58:31 | |
And... | 0:58:31 | 0:58:32 | |
And I was so obsessed with my father and what he did, | 0:58:32 | 0:58:35 | |
that it never crossed my mind that that might be what would happen. | 0:58:35 | 0:58:38 |