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I have crossed the Atlantic,

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to ride the railroads of North America

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with my reliable Appleton's guide.

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Published in the late 19th century,

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Appleton's General Guide to North America

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will direct me to all that's novel,

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beautiful,

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memorable

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and striking

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in the United States. THEY CHANT GREETING

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As I journey across this vast continent,

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I'll discover how pioneers and cowboys conquered the West.

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GUNFIRE

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And how the railroads tied this nation together,

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helping to create the global superstate of today.

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The early pioneers made their way across North America

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in wagon trains, but the railroads made possible

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the wholesale settlement of the West.

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I started my journey in St Louis, Missouri,

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then headed to Kansas City.

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From there, I'll forge west across the plains, to lawless Dodge City,

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before arriving in the mountains at Colorado Springs,

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and finally, heading south, through New Mexico.

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I'll end in the awe-inspiring natural wonder

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of Arizona's Grand Canyon.

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On this leg of my journey I'm leaving Missouri's Kansas City,

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and heading west to the college town of Lawrence in the state of Kansas.,

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From there I'll travel to Topeka,

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and on to the infamous Dodge City,

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before finishing on the western edge of the Great Plains,

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in Lamar, Colorado.

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Along the way, I pay homage at the cathedral of basketball.

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-You've got to turn and shoot. Good job.

-Yeah!

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..get my hands on a vintage hooter...

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TOOT

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Wow, that was fun!

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..discover what life was like in the Wild West...

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He's got a gun...

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..and hear about the harrowing tragedy at Sand Creek.

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A quote comes to mind in all atrocities -

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"The only thing necessary for evil to succeed

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"is for GOOD men to do nothing."

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On my American odyssey

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I'm continuing to puff westwards, towards the state of Kansas,

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admitted to the Union in 1861.

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By the time of my guide book,

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Kansans had converted this state of prairies and tornadoes into

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"famous wheat and corn fields and immense cattle ranges",

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according to Appleton's.

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But what sort of cultures had blown in on the wind?

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Kansas celebrated its statehood

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as the United States was descending into civil war.

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No stranger to bloodshed, in 1854

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Kansas territory had been a flashpoint in the nationwide battle

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over slavery, when pro-slavers and abolitionists

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clashed over whether their future state should be slave or free.

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And the town of Lawrence, Kansas was named in honour of an abolitionist,

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Amos A Lawrence.

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I've arrived in Lawrence, which, according to Appleton's,

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even THEN had 10,000 inhabitants.

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"Located here with over 300 pupils is the Haskell Institute,

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"a United States Indian school."

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"Indian school" - I find those surprising words in a 19th-century publication,

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a period that one would think

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was dominated by shootouts and scalpings.

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So far on my journey west,

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Appleton's has proved a useful guide to pioneer settlements

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and railway boomtowns.

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But I've read little of the people who lived on these lands

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before the arrival of the wagon trains and the railroads.

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When it was founded in 1884,

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Haskell College in Lawrence was one of 60 schools designed to rid

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Native American children of their tribal identity.

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I'm meeting Stephen Prue, part of the Haskell administrative team,

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and a member of the Rosebud Sioux Tribe.

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I was very surprised to find that

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this school was founded in the 19th century. What was its purpose, then?

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Well, it was founded by the United States government

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in partial fulfilment of trust and treaty obligations.

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American Indians at the time were under the War Department,

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many were still considered hostile,

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so the schools' primary job was not only to educate, but to assimilate.

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Kill the Indian, to save the man.

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What was the difference between the culture of the Native American,

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and the culture of those who were coming in from Europe?

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Well, I think the people that came in from Europe,

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their focus was on ownership.

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Native American culture views our relationship not only with the earth

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but with each other in terms of a community,

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and that those resources are here for all to share,

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but not for all to just use for themselves.

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Haskell started with just 22 pupils,

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and by 1894 the number had grown to 606, drawn from 36 different states.

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Many had been forcibly separated from their families, and transported

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thousands of miles across the country.

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The regime at Haskell was harsh.

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On arrival, the children were stripped of all traditional clothing

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and tribal belongings.

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They were made to work the fields in preparation

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for lives as labourers and servants,

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and in the schoolroom, they were taught white American history.

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-What about language?

-They would be disciplined and punished

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for speaking their language, saying their prayers.

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There was even a jail on the campus, where students,

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if they were not following the rules, could be handcuffed,

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brought to the jail and locked and given food and water for the day

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to correct their behaviour.

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Not until the civil rights movement in the 1960s

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did government educators begin to adopt a more enlightened approach

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to the education of these people,

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who President Lyndon B Johnson described as "forgotten Americans".

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In 1993, the Indian school

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became the Haskell Indian Nations University.

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Business student Chris Sindone combines his degree studies

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with American Indian dance performance.

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Would you mind telling me about the regalia you're wearing?

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The regalia, this is a traditional prairie chicken dance outfit.

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The beadwork all comes from different pieces and parts

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of my family. I have porcupine needles that are softened up

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on my roach, and I have my eagle feathers

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and I have our prairie chicken pheasant bustle.

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It originates within the Blackfeet community, up in Montana,

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close to the border of Canada.

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At the beginning of the mating season,

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all the male prairie chickens are out there, trying to be

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cocky, you know, they want to impress the best lady out there,

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so they're out there fighting each other to, you know, to

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show their vanity.

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Will you honour me with a display, a performance?

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Absolutely, I'd be honoured.

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Ah.

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I have learned one word which I hope will express my thanks

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and I hope I'm going to say it right... Aho.

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Aho! Thank you, you said it perfectly. Thank you.

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Haskell is not the only academic institution in Lawrence.

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The University of Kansas, or KU, was founded in 1865.

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Now it has a student body of almost 25,000,

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making it the largest in the state,

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and it accounts for almost a fifth of Lawrence's population.

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"The state university," says Appleton's,

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"is a large and handsome structure

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"standing upon a bluff called Mount Oread

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"in the southwestern part of the city."

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If you were ever asked in a pub quiz what Kansas University is famous for

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and you were to answer "basketball", you would score a slam dunk.

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The Kansas University basketball team is known as the Jayhawks,

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a hybrid of the quarrelsome blue jay and the fighting sparrowhawk.

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It was the name given to those 19th-century abolitionists

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who fought to make Kansas a free state.

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'Curtis Marsh is director of the DeBruce Center at the university,

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'and a Jayhawks fanatic.'

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-Hello, Curtis.

-Hello, Michael.

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-How are you?

-Good to see you.

-Lovely to see you, as well.

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-May we sit down?

-Of course.

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And we're sitting next to whom?

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This is Dr James Naismith, the inventor of basketball.

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He was in Kansas for 40 years until his death in 1939,

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and he helped the university create a historic basketball programme.

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Dr Naismith was a Canadian sports coach and chaplain,

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who came up with the idea of basketball

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while working with a YMCA training group in Massachusetts.

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-Why had he invented the sport in the first place?

-Ah.

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There was a very cold winter in the northeast.

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He had a great number of athletes at the school that were used to playing

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American football and rugby, and they were...

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Quite frankly they were restless.

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The winter months were just too cold for those outdoor activities, so he

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was challenged to find a sport that they could play inside where perhaps

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they don't beat each other up and tackle each other,

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and basketball was created.

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Naismith divided his class of 18 into two teams of nine.

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The object of the game was to lob a ball into a goal

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fixed high on the wall.

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The only thing available at the time

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was a peach basket.

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Michael, one of the things that we love about this game is that

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the scoring is just astronomical,

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you can have a game where 100 points are scored.

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Not when it was a peach basket, because you had to stop the game,

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grab a ladder, head up to the peach basket and take the ball out.

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Well, they created a wonderful improvement,

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which was nothing more than cutting a small hole in the bottom

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of the basket, so that a broom handle could pop the ball right out.

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After a few more refinements,

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Naismith arrived at KU in 1898,

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where basketball was wholeheartedly embraced.

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In 2016, the university opened a permanent exhibition

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to honour the great man.

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'I made up some more rules. The most important one

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'was that there should be no running with the ball.'

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Two pages of typescript, with Naismith's signature -

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give me an idea of how important this document is.

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This document, which as far as we know is the only

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initiating document for a major sport,

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was purchased at auction for 4.3 million,

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and it was bought by one former student of the University of Kansas

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and donated to us.

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And now you have it behind glass, with electronic paraphernalia...

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I mean, this is like the Crown Jewels.

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I think it's the Crown Jewels of basketball, no question.

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# Jayhawks, come on!

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# Jayhawks, here we go!

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# Jayhawks, come on! #

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All the greats have played here in the famous Allen Fieldhouse Stadium.

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And today there's a new rookie player on the team.

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-Right, how do we begin, Coach?

-So, the first thing we're going to do, we're going to get on the block,

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where it gets real dirty.

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Real dirty? OK, fine.

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What you're going to do is put your back to the basket.

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Yes, and you're going to post up, and when you post up,

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-you're going to get physical.

-OK, physical.

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-You're going to get physical.

-Get big.

-All right, get big!

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Go, Michael! Go, Michael!

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-There you go.

-Yeah, there we go.

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Look at that!

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Thanks to the dedication of KU players and coaches,

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basketball soon became a national sport...

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Yeah, that was good, that was good.

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# Michael, Michael... #

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..and in 1936, an Olympic one.

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Here we go, get ready. Turn and shoot. Good job! There we go!

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Yeah!

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# KU! #

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Here we go. We're big on high fives at KU. Yeah!

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Curtis, do you remember coming here to watch games?

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I will never forget it, it's what made me a Jayhawk fan.

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What does this place mean to you?

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Next to my family, it's the most important thing in my life.

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The games here are like no other.

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There's so much energy here that it's really like nothing else.

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Better get ready now, cos you're going to get licked in your own stadium today.

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You got it, Michael.

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# Go, Michael! #

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Stop him, stop him!

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It's in...

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Good sport!

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In truth, there are not many passenger trains nowadays

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running in the state of Kansas,

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which is why it's a great joy to find a heritage line running between

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Baldwin City and Ottawa at a very dignified speed.

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Ladies and gentlemen, all aboard!

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All aboard!

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Thank you.

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'After the end of the American Civil War in 1865,

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'the United States government began to speed up settlement of the West

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'by investing in the railroads.'

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At first, settlers hailed the railroads

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as the bringers of prosperity.

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Many also invested in their construction,

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and sought to influence the routes.

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'I'm meeting Kansas historian Virgil Dean,

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'to find out how all that changed when the railroad companies

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'became over-mighty, and how the people fought back.'

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Hello, Virgil.

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-Michael.

-Good to see you.

-Good to see you, yes.

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The public got involved in these railroads as investors, did they?

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Exactly, especially if you were in a rural area, just getting started,

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they were vital to a town's success, and so towns would

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get into bidding wars over railroads

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just like they do with businesses or corporations, factories now.

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Once the railroads have become a settled part of the landscape,

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how do people feel about them then?

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I think you could say, as some people have,

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that it was kind of a love/hate relationship with the railroads

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from the very beginning. People lost money on them.

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Railroads didn't always live up to their promise.

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They might just decide at the last minute to go this direction,

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instead of this direction, and miss your town,

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or planned town, altogether.

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In the late 19th century,

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numerous privately-owned railroad companies operated in Kansas,

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including the Santa Fe, the Kansas Pacific and the Union Pacific.

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How was it that they affected people's lives?

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Well, they're very important to people,

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but they also see abuses from time to time.

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Most commonly, what you'd hear is that railroads charged too much

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for hauling freight, and that the passenger fares were too high.

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By the 1870s, the political corruption,

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which a lot of people tied to the large railroad companies -

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and other businesses, but railroads in particular - is a big issue.

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In the 1880s and '90s,

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a combination of drought and competition from overseas

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had left farmers struggling and angry with the wealthy railroads,

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whom they accused of naked greed.

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They formed a political party, the Populists,

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to demand, amongst other things, that the railroads be nationalised.

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So would it be going too far to say

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that amongst rural communities anyway,

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at the end of the 19th century,

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the banks and the railroads have become villains?

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Yeah, that's definitely the case

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when you get to the Populist movement

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during the 1890s, where you have attacks on Wall Street, even,

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railroads and bankers, banks,

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similar to what we have today with the talk about

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too much concentration of wealth and power

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and how much of a corrupting influence that has on

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society in general and individuals.

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'In the end, people power didn't win the day.

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'The railroads stayed in private ownership,

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'and the Populist Party petered out.'

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-Thank you very much.

-You're welcome.

-Off to the loco.

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'But on this train, at least, the people are firmly in control.'

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Hello, guys.

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Hello, how you doing?

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Rob, are you a volunteer?

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We are all volunteers.

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What's the impulsion to come and do this volunteer work,

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-why do you do it?

-I love old machinery.

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-Do you?

-Old cars, trucks.

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-I'm a gearhead.

-MICHAEL LAUGHS

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Would you mind if I pulled the hooter?

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You've got to go long...long...

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-short, long.

-OK.

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No traffic over here, are we good?

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Yep!

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-Long...

-Long...

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-..long...

-long...

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..short...

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and long.

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TOOT

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-Wow, that was fun!

-All right. You got it.

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It's a terrific view, the track here is dead straight.

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When you get out here you realise that

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normally in a train you only have about

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a half or a quarter of the experience,

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because you only see what's going by the sides.

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Here I can lean out, I can see what's ahead...

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I've got the sun on my head, I'm in the open air.

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THIS...is the way to ride a railroad.

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Now we cross one of the highlights of the route for me, Sand Creek,

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on the little rickety wooden bridge like something out of a western.

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Rob, we appear to be approximately in the middle of nowhere,

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and I think this is my stop - if you'd very kindly let me off that would be great.

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All right, I will let the conductor know.

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Thank you.

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Bye, Rob! Thanks for the ride.

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-Bye, Michael!

-Safe journey.

-You too.

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Travelling through the lush farmland of Kansas,

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at a stately 20 miles per hour,

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it's hard to imagine a more peaceful place.

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But, the area has its surprises.

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This is Tornado Alley,

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where dry air from the Rockies meets moist air from the Gulf,

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creating more tornadoes than anywhere else in America.

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The weather centre in Topeka gathers vital meteorological information,

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and there I'm meeting Mike Smith,

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one of the country's foremost tornado experts.

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Did you become a tornado expert by following tornadoes around,

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by being a so-called tornado chaser?

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I was one of the very first tornado chasers in 1972,

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while I was attending the University of Oklahoma.

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But that's not how I got interested in tornadoes.

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I got interested in tornadoes when I was five years old,

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and an F5,

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the most intense type of tornado, passed a few blocks to my south.

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When I saw all of the damage the next day,

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the thought went through my mind,

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anything that could do this had to be pretty interesting.

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Mike has turned his passion into a business,

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and amongst his clients are railroad companies.

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What have you been able to do, then,

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to help the railroads to avoid disaster?

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We tell the railroads in advance where the tornado is going to cross

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the track on a milepost by milepost basis,

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and they will stop the trains in that area.

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And do you believe that you have avoided catastrophe?

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Oh, we know we have. The railroads tell us that.

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In the case of the Greensburg, Kansas tornado,

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another EF5 tornado back in 2007,

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they were able to keep the trains out of the area,

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and the two trains stopped

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were able to watch the tornado in the darkness

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pass safely in between them, illuminated by lightning.

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This is the first known image of a tornado on the Great Plains,

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taken by a Kansas farmer in 1884.

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Back then, there was no way of predicting where or when

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these forces of nature would strike.

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Nowadays, any dramatic shifts in air pressure and humidity are monitored

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from the weather centre's upper air building.

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Every day, meteorologist Brandon Drake

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sends two of these balloons up into the atmosphere.

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The instruments will send back data,

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which can be used to forecast tornadoes.

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This balloon's going to go up about 35 km.

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Once it does that, it'll pop,

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and it'll fall back down with the instrument attached still.

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This thing will take a profile of the atmosphere

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roughly above this location.

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-May I watch the launch?

-You may.

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On the Great Plains, spring is tornado season,

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but they can occur any time.

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-Er, don't let go...!

-I won't.

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-OK...

-Let me know when you've got it.

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-I've got a good grip on it. Wow!

-OK.

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I must say, this is very distinctly different

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-from holding on to a party balloon, isn't it?

-It is.

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-Brandon, ready for lift-off?

-Ready for lift-off, Michael.

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Here goes.

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Yee-hah!

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Whoa, watch it go!

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The Great Plains make up about a third of the whole landmass

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of the United States, but here in the Midwest

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the climate has created a very particular ecosystem,

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known as tallgrass prairie.

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-Hello, Paula.

-Hello!

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Paula Matile is a rancher,

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who heads a conservation project in the Kansas Flint Hills.

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It's the largest area of prairie to survive.

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Paula, how much prairie do you have left here?

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The national preserve is about 11,000 acres.

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And before this was disturbed by the white man,

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how much prairie was there in what we now call the United States?

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Tallgrass prairie once covered about 170 million acres,

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and now we're estimating less than 4% of that is still around.

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A rare herd of American buffalo, also called bison,

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roams freely over the whole preserve,

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so we're extremely fortunate to come across them.

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Oh!

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You have to drive very carefully, don't you?

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This is... I never thought I'd ever be this close to a bison.

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What fantastic animals. Aren't they?

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Yeah, we reintroduced the bison to the preserve in 2009

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with 13 head, and we're up to about 100 head right now.

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They graze differently than cattle, so they leave these little

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micro-habitats for different species of bird.

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The immense treeless horizon of the prairie was shaped by the constant

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grazing of the buffalo, and by fires caused by violent electric storms.

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Oh, that is beautiful. That is very, very beautiful.

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This is such an important landscape.

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It's getting developed and it's getting ploughed up

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and it's disappearing right before our eyes,

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and the tallgrass prairie IS American history.

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This was the American Dream - to be out in the tallgrass prairie

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and to make a living.

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The Kansas prairie has been mythologised in American culture.

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Bye-bye, Paula. Thank you very much.

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One writer in particular fixed the landscape in the public imagination.

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The poet Walt Whitman.

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Known as America's bard, he was born in New York in 1819,

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but in later life adopted the persona of a western frontiersman,

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complete with beard and Stetson.

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-Hello, Philip.

-Hello, Michael.

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'Philip Barnard is an English professor

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'at the University of Kansas.'

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Who was Walt Whitman?

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Walt Whitman is one of the greatest of American poets.

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What is the impact that this landscape,

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these prairies, have upon him?

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He idealises the prairies.

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They represent for him a fertile new territory, where a new society

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can be built, that's both modern and democratic

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and free from the influences and limitations of the past in his mind.

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A distinctively American society for him.

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What do you mean by that?

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He felt that US culture to the mid-19th century

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was still derivative on its European origins,

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and envisioned a more modern, a more egalitarian culture

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linked by railroads and growing in vast spaces, like the prairies.

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Did he write specifically about railroads in his poetry?

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There's a very beautiful poem called To A Locomotive In Winter,

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where he celebrates the railroad and locomotives as engines of modernity.

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"I hear the locomotives rushing

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"and roaring and the shrill steam whistle.

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"I hear the echoes reverberate

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"through the grandest scenery in the world.

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"I cross the Laramie Plains.

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"I note the rocks and grotesque shapes, the buttes.

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"I see the plentiful larkspur and wild onions, the barren,

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"colourless sage deserts.

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"I see in glimpses afar or towering immediately above me

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"the great mountains.

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"I see the Wind River and the Wahsatch mountains."

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So here's a man who celebrates nature, but also the railroad,

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which, after all, is violating the nature.

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For Whitman, the railroad is part of nature.

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It's a modern window onto nature,

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through which one can appreciate nature differently.

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The landscape of the prairie and the expansion of the West

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continue to inspire American artists today.

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The composer Mark O'Connor is one of them.

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This is his beautiful Poem For Carlita.

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Excited to be heading to the wildest of Wild West towns,

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famed for its gunfighters and gamblers, Dodge city.

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From there, I'll cross into Colorado,

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finishing at Lamar, on the Great Plains.

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This splendid train is known as the Super Southwest Chief,

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and it runs on the old Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe railroad.

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Now operated by Amtrak, it runs between Chicago and Los Angeles,

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travelling in darkness and light over three days.

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I've arrived in cowboy country, but that is a misnomer -

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for this land once belonged to the Native American and the buffalo.

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The night train from Topeka, Kansas, reaches Dodge City before dawn.

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So new arrivals must wait until sunrise

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for their first glimpse of America's fabled Wild West town.

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Today, Dodge City has a population of around 30,000.

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Many work in the meat processing industry.

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150 years ago, the arrival of the railroads sparked rapid growth in Dodge,

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and unleashed a tide of lawless behaviour that made it notorious.

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Dodge City, nicknamed "cowboy capital of the world",

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"Queen of the cow towns",

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"wicked little city",

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"bibulous Babylon of the frontier."

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I wonder what it did to earn that reputation, and whether it deserved it.

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Dodge City was no more than a mud hut, or sod house, and a saloon

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before the Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe railroad

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built a depot and laid rails in 1872.

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Buffalo hunters, then cattlemen were magnetised

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by the business opportunities,

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and used the railroad to transport hides,

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meat and cattle on an industrial scale

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to the cities of the East and North.

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To hear more about this western boom town,

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I've come to a reconstruction of Dodge's famous Long Branch Saloon.

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Brent. Put it there.

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Howdy, pardner. Welcome to Dodge.

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Glad to finally have you here.

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'Brent Harris of the Boot Hill Museum

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'keeps the spirit of the Old West alive.'

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How did Dodge City get started?

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It started in 1872, the train arrived in Dodge.

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Shortly after come the longhorn cattle from Texas.

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Along with them comes the young Texas cowboy.

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They have just spent three months driving a herd of more than 1,000

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longhorns, facing more danger and working harder than ever before in their life.

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These boys are weary, they're tired,

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they're probably a little bit angry.

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They're ready to let their hair down,

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paint the town red, and we're here to help them do that.

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The cowboys arrived off the trail in early spring,

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with three months' pay in their pockets.

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And the railroad company shipped in fine liquor,

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boots and guns for them to spend it on.

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They turned a blind eye to the violence and lawlessness

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in the town's many bars, brothels and gambling dens.

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What about law enforcement?

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They hired Wyatt Earp,

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legendary Wyatt Earp, probably the best in the business.

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And of course, the first thing he wanted to know - what are the laws,

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what are the ordinances?

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The mayor at the time said,

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"The only laws are - don't kill the customers."

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Now, a year here in Dodge was early spring, late fall.

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In the winter, nothing happened.

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One year he was credited with 374 arrests.

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Earp's part in the legendary shootout at the OK Corral earned him a place in history.

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But the fearless lawman portrayed by Hollywood was more

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was more accurately a gambler and a gunslinger.

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Do you think there'll be any trouble in town today?

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Well, if history is any indication, it's...it's possible.

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But uh...

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first we're going to have to do something about that outfit.

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You look like a city slicker.

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Is that better?

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Dodge City's reputation as the hell on the plains was well-deserved.

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SCREAMING

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Oh!

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Oh!

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He's got a gun...

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He's dead.

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-What happened here?

-You keep that barrel pointed down.

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-Show your hands!

-Hands up!

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I think half the town just got wiped out in front of me.

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By the mid-1880s, the railroads reached directly into Texas,

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heralding the end of the cattle drives,

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and the cowboy capital became

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just another farm town on the plains.

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Shortly before the first cattle drives headed for Dodge, in the mid-1870s,

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buffalo hunters piled in to use the railroad to transport their kill.

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The name of Dodge City will forever be associated

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with the demise of that magnificent beast.

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Here's a poignant passage from Appleton's.

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"At every little station, heaps of buffalo bones lie along the tracks.

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"The number of these gigantic animals

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"slain by hide hunters in two or three years

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"in the territory tributary to the railway must have been over half a million."

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"For many trainloads have already been hauled away,

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"and the industry of bone-picking is profitable."

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I feel ashamed, because surely we measure our humanity not only

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by how we treat one another, but how we behave towards animals.

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Especially the buffalo,

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that man used for survival,

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and to further his progress.

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Vast herds of buffalo roamed the grasslands of North America for

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10,000 years, but within 50 years of the white man's arrival in the West,

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they were hunted close to extinction.

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Earlier in my journey in the Flint Hills of Eastern Kansas,

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I was lucky enough to encounter a small herd.

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Here on the plains around Dodge, it's wonderful to see more.

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They're being reintroduced by the Wild West Heritage Foundation,

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led by president Ryan Birch.

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Ryan, as we approach the bison and the buffalo,

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you better give me the dos and don'ts. What are the safety rules?

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Well, I wouldn't recommend getting out and petting them.

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That's why we're in the back of this truck going down here rather than walking.

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The herd is made up of a rare golden bull buffalo, known as Buck,

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and three cows, who all gave birth during the summer.

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It's good to see some handsome specimens of buffalo here today,

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I've been reading about the slaughter of them.

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Before the slaughter, what kind of numbers were there?

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You know, back in the mid-1800s

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there was nearly 60 million of these buffalo roaming the plains.

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And what was their relationship with the Native American?

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You know, the buffalo were such a tremendous asset,

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but not just as a source of food.

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Starting with their hides, which were used for bedding, clothing, tepees.

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The brain of the buffalo was used to tan the hides.

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The bones were used for weapons and tools.

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The stomachs and the bladders were even used for containers,

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and all the way down to the manure was used for fuel.

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So the Native Americans hunted them,

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but there was no danger in those days that they would be hunted to extinction?

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That's correct.

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The arrival of the railroad spelled the end of the buffalo.

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The enormous herds delayed trains and destroyed track.

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Rail companies responded by offering "hunting specials",

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from which passengers would shoot the animals for sport.

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One Dodge City trader reportedly shipped 200,000 hides at a time back east,

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where they were made into coats and hats,

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as well as leather belting,

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to drive the machines of America's Industrial Revolution.

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What is the attitude of the white American when he arrives in the territory?

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You know, it's more of a young man coming in for adventure, and trying to make a profit.

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There was individuals that could kill 100 or 250 a day,

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and when they could sell those for three dollars a hide, you know,

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it was a very lucrative business back in the time

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when the average worker was making about a dollar a day.

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Now, from what you've told me, the relationship with the Native American,

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this must have impacted the Native Americans too, enormously.

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Absolutely. The population of the Native Americans went down greatly,

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as they depended on these animals.

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MUSIC PLAYS

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I'm drawn to the Dodge City Depot

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by the unmistakable sounds of a big band.

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The Dodge City Cowboy Band, founded in the early 1880s,

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is still going strong.

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THEY PLAY THE STARS AND STRIPES FOREVER

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Wow, that was fantastic.

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Very patriotic. The Stars And Stripes Forever.

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I never saw it conducted with a gun before.

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THEY LAUGH Tell me about that. What are you doing with a gun?

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It's in the tradition of Chalkley Beeson, who began the Cowboy Band

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here in Dodge City. He conducted with a gun - for show, of course,

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but he said that if any person

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played a false note, he'd kill 'em.

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Anyone you want to pick out today(?) THEY LAUGH

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Chalkley Beeson was a buffalo hunter turned cowboy, then saloon owner.

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His band began playing nightly outside the Long Branch Saloon.

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Its fame quickly spread.

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The band serenaded the governor, and in 1889 travelled to Washington DC

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to play at the inauguration of President Benjamin Harrison.

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They weren't working cowboys of the day - they may have owned steers and cattle,

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they wanted to give that impression of what Dodge City was.

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Now, at the risk of someone getting shot this time,

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can I have a few more bars?

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Oh, here comes the revolver. THEY LAUGH

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THEY PLAY THE STARS AND STRIPES FOREVER

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With the oppression of the Native American,

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and the extermination of the buffalo,

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the story of the Wild West is quite morally complicated.

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But the cowboy is the enduring hero.

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This booted and spurred figure, through literature, through stage shows,

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through movies,

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has become the greatest source of entertainment

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that the world has ever known.

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I'm up early to leave Dodge as I arrived, under cover of darkness.

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I'm catching my old friend the Super Southwest Chief,

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which will carry me to my next destination.

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-Good morning.

-Morning, sir.

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-Bright and early.

-Oh, yeah.

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The next stage of my journey

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takes me through an area known as the Breadbasket of America.

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As I follow the old Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe route,

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I'm tracing the history of the West.

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This land was once home to the Plains Indians,

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but was granted to the railroad companies by the government,

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for sale to prospective settlers.

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In the 1879 edition of Appleton's

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there's an intriguing advertisement placed by a railroad, luring people

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to Kansas to buy wheat-growing land.

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At the next stop, Garden City, a lady, Jannetta, will get on,

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who's going to tell me the story, with reference to her own family history.

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Watch your hands...

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Jannetta?

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-Jannetta!

-How are you?

-Good morning, welcome aboard.

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-It's a big step up now.

-OK... There we go.

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There we are, that's better. Come on in.

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All right.

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I'm using this Appleton's from 1879,

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and there's an advertisement there placed by the Kansas Pacific Railroad.

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"Lands, lands.

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"The leading wheat state in the Union in 1878.

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"Kansas. A farm for everybody.

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"62,500 farms. Five million acres for sale.

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"The best land in America, from 2 to 6 per acre."

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Wow. It really was an interesting time, wasn't it?

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Oh, definitely. Well, the government wanted to break this all open,

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and the early surveyors were like, "Oh... There is nothing out there but desert,

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"you don't want people to go out there."

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And what they would do then

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is to get people interested they would sell plots of land very cheaply to build up towns.

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Tell me about your ancestor, who was involved in this business.

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My ancestor - I happened to bring a picture of him - is IR Holmes,

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and he was the land agent for Santa Fe.

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And he came to Garden City

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and sold thousands of acres there,

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then moved up the train

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and he was one of the founding fathers of Lamar, Colorado.

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And then he would go down to Texas and run the routes down there.

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And so, made his millions being a land agent.

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In the 1860s, the population of the state of Kansas tripled to a million,

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as settlers flooded onto the Great Plains and began to farm the land.

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-Further east, where I started my journey, there was an awful lot of corn.

-Right.

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Corn on the cob, as we would say. What made people here farm wheat?

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I do believe that where they came from,

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in Germany, Russia,

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that kind of area, they were very familiar with the grains.

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In fact, my last name, Heberle, is German for "keeper of the grains".

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The government and railroad companies

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knew that the climate on the Great Plains

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would suit only settlers

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with experience of prairie-style agriculture.

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So advertisements were placed in northern Europe,

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including Russia and Scandinavia.

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The early European immigrants who responded

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managed successfully to grow winter wheat on a large scale in Kansas.

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And it remains one of the state's most important crops.

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I have a surprise. I baked this loaf of bread for you yesterday.

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-You baked it?

-I did.

-Oh...! Smells delicious.

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So, we're going to break the bread, Michael.

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This is what nice, fresh bread looks like.

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Mmm!

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Very nice taste. Nice bit of crispness around the crust... Very nice.

0:47:030:47:08

Well, Jannetta, thank you. You have brought me bread

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from the Breadbasket of America.

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-Fresh from my kitchen, even.

-SHE LAUGHS

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During the late 19th century,

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there seemed to be no limit to the power of the railroads.

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We've crossed into Colorado, and the clocks go back one hour -

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we've moved from Central Standard Time to Mountain Standard Time.

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Before the railroads established time zones,

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every town set its own time according to dawn and dusk.

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By the 1880s, when the time zones were introduced,

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the power of the railroads was resented.

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One newspaper commented, "The sun is no longer the boss.

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"55 million people must eat and sleep and work, as well as travel,

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"by railroad time."

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But in fact, the railroads had brought order out of chaos.

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-Thank you very much, sir.

-Thank you.

-Y'all enjoy.

-Thank you.

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Lamar, Colorado, a railroad town named after a 19th-century senator,

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boasts a fine Art Deco cinema.

0:48:440:48:46

Having had an early start, breakfast is on MY mind.

0:48:490:48:52

-Good morning, gentlemen.

-Good morning.

0:48:550:48:57

Do you come here regularly?

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Yes. He has coffee here every morning.

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And what have you had for breakfast today?

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I had eggs and bacon.

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That's fairly standard. What did you have?

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Eggs, bacon, biscuits.

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And the biscuit is a little round thing,

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-it's like what I would call a scone.

-Well, we eat biscuits like this.

0:49:130:49:16

-Oh, do you?

-Yeah.

-I'm in Colorado now.

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Big biscuit country.

0:49:190:49:21

I've ordered pancakes today, think that's a good choice?

0:49:220:49:24

Yeah. That's a real good choice.

0:49:240:49:26

Ah, thank... That's for me. Thank you very much.

0:49:260:49:29

Some maple syrup.

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You're supposed to pile them all up, one on top of the other.

0:49:320:49:36

Oh, really? Well, let me try that.

0:49:360:49:38

Pile them all on top of each other.

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-Am I doing better now?

-Yeah, you're doing better now, but you need more maple syrup.

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-Maple syrup on there.

-Pancakes have a tendency to be dry.

0:49:450:49:49

-Are they good that way?

-They are.

0:49:490:49:52

That is the right way to eat them.

0:49:520:49:53

THEY CHUCKLE

0:49:550:49:56

-Hello.

-How you doing?

0:49:560:49:58

-Good morning. Good to see you, my name's Michael.

-I'm John.

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-Are you a trucker?

-Yeah.

-What's your route today?

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From Texas to Eugene, Oregon.

0:50:030:50:06

How many miles would that be?

0:50:060:50:08

Uh, 2,230.

0:50:080:50:10

2,230. 2,230 miles?

0:50:100:50:13

-Yeah.

-How long will that take you?

-Three days.

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What kind of a life is it?

0:50:160:50:18

-It's enjoyable.

-Really? I love it, yeah.

0:50:180:50:20

Why? Isn't it rather lonely?

0:50:200:50:23

It's... It's not that, it's the enjoyment

0:50:230:50:26

of delivering everything that America needs.

0:50:260:50:29

So it's... You know,

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whether it's toys for kids or it's pilings that build a bridge,

0:50:320:50:38

it doesn't matter - you know, it's what keeps America together.

0:50:380:50:41

That's a great attitude.

0:50:410:50:43

I'm heading 50 miles north of town,

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to a long-since abandoned stop on the railroad line.

0:50:510:50:55

The first noteworthy station in Colorado, says Appleton's,

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is Kit Carson.

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It's gone now.

0:51:140:51:16

"Situated on Sand Creek,

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"about 20 miles above the spot where Colonel Chivington's Indian massacre

0:51:180:51:24

"took place."

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The United States has not been particularly keen

0:51:250:51:28

to own up to atrocities against Native Americans,

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and so it's interesting to find in an 1891 publication,

0:51:320:51:36

that it's already described as a massacre.

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The Sand Creek massacre was one of the most shameful incidents

0:51:450:51:49

in the wars between the United States and the Indian tribes

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who found themselves in the way of white settlement of the Great Plains.

0:51:530:51:58

Jeff Campbell is consultant historian for this national historic site.

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A former police investigator,

0:52:060:52:08

he's devoted the past 16 years to examining evidence from the terrible

0:52:080:52:13

events which took place here in November 1864.

0:52:130:52:17

A melancholy sight.

0:52:200:52:22

What was the background to the massacre?

0:52:220:52:25

This was a reservation area

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from Sand Creek down to the Arkansas River.

0:52:280:52:30

It was assigned to the Cheyennes and Arapahos in 1860, by treaty.

0:52:300:52:35

That treaty greatly reduced Native American Indian lands.

0:52:370:52:42

And in response, they stepped up raids on white settlements.

0:52:420:52:46

The governor of Colorado territory declared war on all hostile Indians.

0:52:460:52:51

In August 1864, with tensions rising,

0:52:510:52:54

tribal chiefs resumed talks with the territorial government

0:52:540:52:58

and the United States Army.

0:52:580:53:00

It was the understanding of the chiefs and most of the people there

0:53:000:53:04

that negotiations would continue.

0:53:040:53:08

The Cheyennes returned to this area,

0:53:090:53:11

they set up a camp here.

0:53:110:53:14

They felt that they were under the protection of the military.

0:53:140:53:17

On the 28th of November,

0:53:180:53:20

a group of US cavalry left Fort Lyon and rode through the night,

0:53:200:53:24

arriving at Sand Creek at six on the morning of the 29th.

0:53:240:53:28

They were led by Colonel John Milton Chivington,

0:53:280:53:32

a former elder of the Methodist Church,

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well known for his violent hatred of the Plains Indians.

0:53:350:53:39

Over what area, looking from here, did the massacre occur?

0:53:410:53:45

The soldiers came from the south,

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and they came up around the bottom of this hill,

0:53:480:53:51

and we've pretty well located that from soldier testimony.

0:53:510:53:54

They came across here, and they went up the valley,

0:53:540:53:58

and as I point to the village stood in there,

0:53:580:54:03

it was about a half a mile from end to end.

0:54:030:54:05

Women were up, maintaining the camp.

0:54:050:54:08

They were getting water, cooking morning meals,

0:54:080:54:11

and they heard, in this quiet, calm morning,

0:54:110:54:15

what they thought were the sounds of many, many hooves.

0:54:150:54:19

And they went back to the tents, or the tepees, and they were saying,

0:54:190:54:23

"The buffalo are coming, the buffalo are coming!"

0:54:230:54:26

What they heard were the soldiers,

0:54:260:54:28

and about 675 horses, plus four pieces of artillery.

0:54:280:54:33

Over nine hours,

0:54:340:54:36

between 200 and 230 Cheyenne and Arapaho Indians

0:54:360:54:40

were killed, and a similar number wounded.

0:54:400:54:44

Eyewitness reports from two United States officers

0:54:440:54:46

who refused to take part

0:54:460:54:49

describe horrific scenes,

0:54:490:54:51

as soldiers tortured women and children

0:54:510:54:54

and looted and burned the camp.

0:54:540:54:56

And was this action maverick, or officially sanctioned?

0:54:560:55:00

We may never know.

0:55:000:55:02

Because there is very little

0:55:020:55:04

written word or orders or anything

0:55:040:55:07

to the effect to attack these people.

0:55:070:55:09

In the aftermath,

0:55:090:55:11

there were at least five general and staff

0:55:110:55:15

that discredited and disavowed

0:55:150:55:17

the attack on Sand Creek

0:55:170:55:20

as unprofessional,

0:55:200:55:22

breaking of trust and honour,

0:55:220:55:24

uh...

0:55:240:55:26

ungentlemanly-like,

0:55:260:55:28

unmilitary-like,

0:55:280:55:31

against the flag of truce...

0:55:310:55:33

Neither Colonel Chivington nor any of his soldiers

0:55:350:55:38

was ever indicted or tried.

0:55:380:55:41

In 2007,

0:55:420:55:44

Sand Creek was designated a National Historic Site

0:55:440:55:47

in recognition of its significance, and every year,

0:55:470:55:50

prayer ceremonies and healing rituals are held at this spot.

0:55:500:55:56

We've had actually descendants of soldiers come here.

0:55:570:56:01

During those ceremonies there are blessings and prayers,

0:56:010:56:04

and paying homage to the

0:56:040:56:08

remains of ancestors that are buried in the burial ground.

0:56:080:56:12

During the commemoration of the 150th,

0:56:120:56:15

the governor of the State of Colorado for the first time

0:56:150:56:19

made an apology to the tribes, for what happened here.

0:56:190:56:23

You must have reflected on this event a great deal -

0:56:250:56:27

how do YOU feel about it?

0:56:270:56:29

A quote from the British...

0:56:290:56:32

philosopher Edmund Burke comes to mind...

0:56:320:56:37

as in all atrocities.

0:56:370:56:41

"The only thing necessary

0:56:410:56:43

"for evil to succeed

0:56:430:56:46

"is for GOOD men to do nothing."

0:56:460:56:49

The Native Americans suffered because of the greed of land-grabbers,

0:56:540:56:59

cowboys and railroads as they pushed west.

0:56:590:57:03

But remember that most of the white Americans were of European descent.

0:57:030:57:08

When the Spanish had colonised Peru and Mexico,

0:57:080:57:12

they had been equally villainous and murderous

0:57:120:57:15

with the indigenous population.

0:57:150:57:17

It was the English that introduced slavery to Virginia,

0:57:170:57:21

bequeathing to the United States

0:57:210:57:23

a bitter legacy not fully resolved to this day.

0:57:230:57:28

If the treatment of the native is a stain on American history,

0:57:280:57:33

then the Europeans have no reason to be smug.

0:57:330:57:37

'Next time, I'm transported back to the Mexican-American War...'

0:57:460:57:50

-You ready?

-Yes, sir.

-That's the spirit.

0:57:500:57:54

'..I explore gun culture in the Old West...'

0:57:540:57:57

You have to remember there was not a lot of law and order.

0:57:570:58:02

'..discover the perils of an historic railroad...'

0:58:020:58:05

They actually built forts along the canyon walls

0:58:050:58:08

and aimed their guns at each other, shots were fired back and forth...

0:58:080:58:12

'..and descend to 14,000 feet.'

0:58:120:58:15

Oh, my word, we are going to the very...

0:58:150:58:21

edge, that's unbelievable.

0:58:210:58:23

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