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KNOCKING, DOOR OPENS > | 0:04:33 | 0:04:35 | |
"It's a great honour to pass on the torch of democracy | 0:05:41 | 0:05:44 | |
"to the Turgisian nation as a token of my admiration and respect." | 0:05:44 | 0:05:48 | |
DOOR CLOSES > | 0:09:48 | 0:09:50 | |
Hi! > Hi! | 0:09:50 | 0:09:52 | |
HE SIGHS | 0:09:52 | 0:09:54 | |
< DOOR OPENS | 0:11:40 | 0:11:41 | |
SHE WOLF-WHISTLES | 0:13:17 | 0:13:19 | |
SHE DOES VOICE WARM-UP EXERCISES | 0:13:19 | 0:13:21 | |
SHE CONTINUES WARMING-UP | 0:13:26 | 0:13:28 | |
-Are you all right? -Oh... | 0:13:28 | 0:13:31 | |
Sorry, um, yes, I'm fine. | 0:13:31 | 0:13:34 | |
-Vladimir Bayanov. -Nice to meet you. | 0:13:34 | 0:13:37 | |
I believe I'm being interrogated by you. | 0:13:37 | 0:13:39 | |
Oh, yes. | 0:13:39 | 0:13:42 | |
Would you like us to go over some of the topics I'd like to talk about | 0:13:42 | 0:13:45 | |
-before we start? -Why? | 0:13:45 | 0:13:47 | |
-Well, just to... -No, I have nothing to hide. | 0:13:47 | 0:13:52 | |
You can ask me anything. I'm not President Grozin. | 0:13:52 | 0:13:55 | |
Of course not. | 0:13:56 | 0:13:58 | |
Welcome. | 0:13:58 | 0:14:00 | |
PHONE RINGS | 0:14:29 | 0:14:31 | |
OK. | 0:15:15 | 0:15:16 | |
SLAMS DOOR | 0:15:28 | 0:15:29 | |
TV INAUDIBLE | 0:15:31 | 0:15:33 | |
TV SOUND UP | 0:15:36 | 0:15:37 | |
What does democracy mean to you? | 0:15:37 | 0:15:40 | |
-It is like ice cream or love means to me. -Please, elaborate? | 0:15:40 | 0:15:43 | |
HE THROWS REMOTE | 0:15:43 | 0:15:45 | |
Well, it's so difficult to explain, | 0:15:45 | 0:15:47 | |
yet so easy to understand. | 0:15:47 | 0:15:50 | |
We would not die without democracy, | 0:15:50 | 0:15:53 | |
but democracy develops the human race. | 0:15:53 | 0:15:55 | |
Because it forces us to embrace | 0:15:55 | 0:15:59 | |
and to understand those who think differently. | 0:15:59 | 0:16:02 | |
Mr Bayanov, you are one of the most prominent members of the Turgisian minority, | 0:16:02 | 0:16:07 | |
in Turgisia, who is fighting for an independent state, | 0:16:07 | 0:16:10 | |
often with violent methods. | 0:16:10 | 0:16:13 | |
Do you find the violence is sometimes necessary? | 0:16:13 | 0:16:16 | |
Yes, violence is necessary, | 0:16:16 | 0:16:18 | |
because Grozin is trying to destroy my people. | 0:16:18 | 0:16:22 | |
Should we not defend ourselves? | 0:16:22 | 0:16:24 | |
But sometimes the Turgisians do more than defend themselves. | 0:16:24 | 0:16:27 | |
There have been bombs killing civilians and other episodes | 0:16:27 | 0:16:30 | |
that can only be described as terrorism. | 0:16:30 | 0:16:33 | |
Do you sympathise with that? | 0:16:33 | 0:16:35 | |
Politics is war without bloodshed. | 0:16:35 | 0:16:37 | |
But war is politics WITH bloodshed. | 0:16:37 | 0:16:40 | |
Yes, that doesn't answer my question. | 0:16:40 | 0:16:43 | |
Before Chairman Mao became the leader of a great nation, | 0:16:44 | 0:16:47 | |
he was accused of being a terrorist. | 0:16:47 | 0:16:49 | |
Before Yitshak Shamir became Prime Minister of Israel, | 0:16:49 | 0:16:53 | |
he too was accused of being a terrorist. | 0:16:53 | 0:16:55 | |
If you win your war, you're remembered for being a great politician. | 0:16:55 | 0:16:58 | |
If you lose, you're remembered for being a terrorist. | 0:16:58 | 0:17:02 | |
Mr Bayanov... | 0:17:04 | 0:17:05 | |
..are you a terrorist? | 0:17:06 | 0:17:08 | |
Is Grozin? | 0:17:09 | 0:17:11 | |
Thank you very much for coming today. | 0:17:13 | 0:17:16 | |
DOOR CLOSES > | 0:17:18 | 0:17:20 | |
MOBILE BUZZES | 0:18:01 | 0:18:04 | |
SHE CLEARS HER THROAT | 0:18:04 | 0:18:06 | |
(AS BAYANOV) "It is the same as asking me what love means to me." | 0:18:09 | 0:18:12 | |
CLANGING > | 0:18:14 | 0:18:15 | |
UNZIPPING, HE LAUGHS | 0:19:00 | 0:19:01 | |
SIZZLING, EVERYONE TALKING TOGETHER | 0:19:03 | 0:19:06 | |
PHONE RINGS | 0:19:27 | 0:19:29 | |
LIFT PINGS, DOORS OPEN | 0:20:19 | 0:20:20 | |
CAMERA SHUTTERS CLICK | 0:20:20 | 0:20:24 | |
-President Grozin, welcome to Denmark. -President Grozin, can you confirm | 0:20:24 | 0:20:27 | |
that the Turgisian government has placed an order with North Wind worth a billion euros? | 0:20:27 | 0:20:30 | |
Like any other country, Turgisia has a responsibility to reduce its CO2 emissions. | 0:20:30 | 0:20:38 | |
And we believe our future lies in wind energy. | 0:20:38 | 0:20:43 | |
But can you confirm that you have placed the order? | 0:20:43 | 0:20:47 | |
Mr Grozin, please come this way. | 0:20:50 | 0:20:51 | |
CAMERA SHUTTERS CLICK | 0:20:51 | 0:20:54 | |
Please. | 0:20:57 | 0:20:59 | |
I understand that Vladimir Bayanov has not been arrested. | 0:21:07 | 0:21:12 | |
That is correct. | 0:21:14 | 0:21:15 | |
We received a request for the arrest of Mr Bayanov yesterday | 0:21:15 | 0:21:18 | |
-from your Ministry of Justice. -And? | 0:21:18 | 0:21:21 | |
And it was simply a list of accusations. | 0:21:21 | 0:21:24 | |
As you are probably aware, we cannot act without evidence. | 0:21:25 | 0:21:28 | |
Bayanov is a well-known terrorist. | 0:21:28 | 0:21:31 | |
There's no international arrest order on Mr Bayanov. | 0:21:31 | 0:21:34 | |
I mean no disrespect, Mr President, | 0:21:34 | 0:21:37 | |
but our legal system makes it impossible for me to arrest a man who's legally in the country. | 0:21:37 | 0:21:41 | |
Legally? Bayanov? | 0:21:41 | 0:21:42 | |
Yes, I understand he's been invited here to talk about his poetry. | 0:21:42 | 0:21:46 | |
Let me tell you about Mr Bayanov's real poetry. | 0:21:46 | 0:21:50 | |
Bayanov was the brain behind the bombing of our police headquarters last month. | 0:21:50 | 0:21:55 | |
The Chief-Of-Police and five other men on duty were killed. | 0:21:57 | 0:22:01 | |
And almost 20 other people were badly wounded. | 0:22:03 | 0:22:07 | |
There is your evidence... | 0:22:08 | 0:22:11 | |
Mrs Prime Minister. | 0:22:11 | 0:22:13 | |
We will be looking into this, Mr President. | 0:22:30 | 0:22:33 | |
DOOR OPENS > | 0:22:36 | 0:22:38 | |
KNOCK AT DOOR > | 0:23:45 | 0:23:47 | |
KNOCK AT DOOR > | 0:24:56 | 0:24:58 | |
Mr Grozin. So lovely to see you again. | 0:27:16 | 0:27:19 | |
The pleasure is all mine. This is my wife, Irina. | 0:27:19 | 0:27:22 | |
-Enchanted. Nice to meet you. This is my husband, Phillip. -Hello. | 0:27:22 | 0:27:26 | |
-Oh, shit. -Ah, shit. -OK. | 0:27:43 | 0:27:46 | |
Mr Grozin, I understand... | 0:29:45 | 0:29:47 | |
I understand that Bayanov is still a free man, | 0:29:47 | 0:29:50 | |
giving interviews on television. | 0:29:50 | 0:29:52 | |
And, um, the BBC knew that we wanted him arrested | 0:29:52 | 0:29:58 | |
and warned him one hour ago. How did they get story? | 0:29:58 | 0:30:02 | |
I have no idea. I hope you're not implying that... | 0:30:02 | 0:30:05 | |
Tell me, why it is that the Danish Prime Minister has chosen to stand by a terrorist | 0:30:05 | 0:30:11 | |
instead of the next chairman of the OSDD. | 0:30:11 | 0:30:13 | |
He has still not been arrested. | 0:30:18 | 0:30:20 | |
-Do the lives of eight Turgisian policemen mean nothing to you? -Of course they do. | 0:30:20 | 0:30:25 | |
And I do want to help you, but I cannot pre-empt a police investigation. | 0:30:25 | 0:30:30 | |
-INTERMISSION BELL RINGS -The Prime Minister can order Bayanov detained | 0:30:30 | 0:30:34 | |
until the police investigate the matter. | 0:30:34 | 0:30:36 | |
-No. -A lack of goodwill on your part must force me | 0:30:36 | 0:30:40 | |
to reconsider my investment in Danish wind energy. | 0:30:40 | 0:30:44 | |
Why should I place a billion euros | 0:30:46 | 0:30:50 | |
in a country that does not care for my people's security? | 0:30:50 | 0:30:54 | |
I strongly recommend immediate action | 0:30:54 | 0:30:57 | |
-and the arrest of Bayanov. -INTERMISSION BELL RINGS | 0:30:57 | 0:31:00 | |
INTERMISSION BELL RINGS | 0:31:03 | 0:31:05 | |
INTERMISSION BELL RINGS | 0:31:23 | 0:31:25 | |
INTERMISSION BELL RINGS | 0:31:27 | 0:31:29 | |
INTERMISSION BELL RINGS | 0:31:31 | 0:31:34 | |
MUSIC: "Act II: Scene - Moderato" from "Swan Lake" by Tchaikovsky | 0:31:36 | 0:31:41 | |
DIALOGUE INAUDIBLE OVER MUSIC | 0:31:51 | 0:31:53 | |
SWAN LAKE DISTORTS INTO TENSE BACKGROUND MUSIC | 0:31:53 | 0:31:56 | |
DIALOGUE DROWNED BY MUSIC THROUGHOUT SCENE | 0:31:56 | 0:32:00 | |
INAUDIBLE | 0:32:06 | 0:32:09 | |
KATRINE: 'Mr Bayanov, would you like to say anything?' | 0:32:14 | 0:32:18 | |
INAUDIBLE OVER MUSIC | 0:32:30 | 0:32:32 | |
GLASS SMASHES | 0:33:06 | 0:33:07 | |
HE WHISTLES INTO BOTTLE | 0:33:37 | 0:33:39 | |
BOTH LAUGH AND HUM DRUNKENLY | 0:34:01 | 0:34:03 | |
SHE SCREAMS AND LAUGHS | 0:34:03 | 0:34:05 | |
SHE GIGGLES | 0:34:05 | 0:34:08 | |
Don't shit where you eat. | 0:34:33 | 0:34:35 | |
VOICES COMING FROM VIDEO RECORDING | 0:34:53 | 0:34:56 | |
KATRINE: 'Mr Bayanov, would you like to say anything?' | 0:34:58 | 0:35:00 | |
'CAR ENGINE STARTS' | 0:35:07 | 0:35:08 | |
PHONE GOES DEAD | 0:35:49 | 0:35:51 | |
HE SIGHS | 0:35:51 | 0:35:53 | |
BOTH GIGGLE | 0:36:03 | 0:36:05 | |
KNOCK AT DOOR > | 0:36:13 | 0:36:14 | |
KNOCK AT DOOR > | 0:36:20 | 0:36:21 | |
Hi. | 0:36:46 | 0:36:47 | |
KASPER GROANS | 0:37:24 | 0:37:26 | |
KASPER GROANS | 0:37:36 | 0:37:39 | |
DOOR CLOSES | 0:37:57 | 0:37:59 | |
TV INAUDIBLE | 0:39:08 | 0:39:10 | |
TV INAUDIBLE | 0:39:30 | 0:39:33 | |
(VOICE BREAKING) | 0:41:47 | 0:41:49 | |
HE SNIFFS | 0:42:26 | 0:42:28 | |
BIRDSONG | 0:42:34 | 0:42:36 | |
Yes, yes. | 0:44:35 | 0:44:37 | |
Yes, of course. | 0:44:37 | 0:44:39 | |
Do svidaniya. | 0:44:39 | 0:44:40 | |
-Good morning, Mr President. -Good morning, Prime Minster. | 0:47:54 | 0:47:57 | |
-Mr President, are you ready for the press conference? -Of course. | 0:48:00 | 0:48:04 | |
-Please, come this... -Um, excuse me. | 0:48:04 | 0:48:06 | |
Could I have a moment alone with the President, please? | 0:48:06 | 0:48:09 | |
Of course. | 0:48:11 | 0:48:13 | |
FOOTSTEPS RETREATING > | 0:48:15 | 0:48:17 | |
Would you care to sit down? | 0:48:19 | 0:48:20 | |
Thank you. | 0:48:22 | 0:48:23 | |
What will happen to Bayanov if we hand him over? | 0:48:29 | 0:48:33 | |
Let's not discuss that on a day of celebration like this. | 0:48:34 | 0:48:38 | |
I can't hand him over if you won't tell me. | 0:48:38 | 0:48:40 | |
It's up to the Turgisian people, | 0:48:40 | 0:48:43 | |
and the Turgisian legal system to decide. | 0:48:43 | 0:48:46 | |
I mean no offence, Mr President, but I need to know more than that. | 0:48:48 | 0:48:51 | |
Let me ask you a question. | 0:48:56 | 0:48:58 | |
Why do you consider yourself... | 0:48:58 | 0:49:02 | |
a better and more democratic leader than I? | 0:49:02 | 0:49:07 | |
-Why would you ask me that? -I think you know. | 0:49:07 | 0:49:11 | |
How old is Danish democracy? 160 years? | 0:49:11 | 0:49:14 | |
Ours is 20 years old. | 0:49:14 | 0:49:17 | |
It takes time, Mrs Prime Minister. | 0:49:17 | 0:49:19 | |
It takes time. | 0:49:19 | 0:49:21 | |
The Turgisian people are not used to being asked, | 0:49:21 | 0:49:25 | |
they're used to being told. | 0:49:25 | 0:49:27 | |
It is in the DNA of my people to obey the leader. | 0:49:27 | 0:49:31 | |
So, if I understand you correctly... | 0:49:34 | 0:49:36 | |
..it is you, isn't it, Mr President, who will decide what will happen to Bayanov? | 0:49:37 | 0:49:42 | |
-Oh, are we playing games, Mrs Prime Minister? -I hope not. | 0:49:42 | 0:49:45 | |
There's a man's life at stake here. | 0:49:45 | 0:49:47 | |
When our democracy is 160 years old, we can talk. | 0:49:47 | 0:49:51 | |
Until then, I will not take any more arrogant lessons from you. | 0:49:51 | 0:49:55 | |
You still haven't answered my question. | 0:49:55 | 0:49:57 | |
I expect you to hand over Bayanov before I sign any contract with North Wind. | 0:49:57 | 0:50:01 | |
Oh, by the way, | 0:50:05 | 0:50:08 | |
I understand it is your custom to pick the journalists yourself at press conferences. | 0:50:08 | 0:50:14 | |
-Yes. -Well, I have favour to ask of you. | 0:50:14 | 0:50:17 | |
Here is... | 0:50:23 | 0:50:25 | |
a list of journalists that I do not wish to take questions from. | 0:50:25 | 0:50:29 | |
Please, respect that. | 0:50:29 | 0:50:31 | |
My nation believes in the principle of free press and will uphold | 0:50:33 | 0:50:38 | |
and defend this in our constitution. | 0:50:38 | 0:50:40 | |
Do you recognise it? | 0:50:40 | 0:50:43 | |
It's part of the OSDD Treaty that you're signing today as the new chairman. | 0:50:43 | 0:50:48 | |
There is a time and place for free press and critical journalism. | 0:50:48 | 0:50:51 | |
Today is not one of them. | 0:50:51 | 0:50:53 | |
No more games, Mrs Prime Minister. | 0:50:53 | 0:50:56 | |
HUM OF CONVERSATION | 0:51:05 | 0:51:08 | |
-SHUTTERS CLICK -Ladies and gentlemen of the press, please, take your seats. | 0:51:43 | 0:51:47 | |
SHUTTERS CLICK, CLAMOURING VOICES | 0:51:51 | 0:51:53 | |
-Yes. -Lindsay McGill, the Guardian. Is President Grozin satisfied | 0:51:53 | 0:51:57 | |
with the arrest of Vladimir Bayanov? | 0:51:57 | 0:51:59 | |
Yes, I'm very happy with the help we have received from our Danish friends. | 0:51:59 | 0:52:05 | |
TV-1. | 0:52:07 | 0:52:08 | |
Can the Danish Prime Minister tell us, | 0:52:08 | 0:52:10 | |
how strong is the evidence against Bayanov? | 0:52:10 | 0:52:14 | |
That would be a question for the Danish police. I cannot comment on that. | 0:52:14 | 0:52:19 | |
Was that the last question? | 0:52:19 | 0:52:21 | |
Before we end this press conference, I'd like to say that the president and I | 0:52:22 | 0:52:27 | |
have noticed the criticism in the international media | 0:52:27 | 0:52:30 | |
concerning the fact that Turgisia is taking over the chairmanship | 0:52:30 | 0:52:34 | |
for the Organisation for Security and Democratic Development. | 0:52:34 | 0:52:39 | |
But, I'd like to quote President Grozin, from his inauguration speech from 1996. | 0:52:39 | 0:52:46 | |
"Democracy is not a principle you can bend. It's either-or, it's yes or no. | 0:52:46 | 0:52:51 | |
"And today my nation, Turgisia, | 0:52:51 | 0:52:54 | |
"has chosen to say yes to democracy." | 0:52:54 | 0:52:58 | |
SHUTTERS CLICK | 0:52:58 | 0:53:00 | |
I think we have the time for just one last question. | 0:53:02 | 0:53:04 | |
Katrine Fonsmark? | 0:53:04 | 0:53:06 | |
Yes, this is for President Grozin? | 0:53:06 | 0:53:09 | |
Does your investment in Danish wind technology depend | 0:53:11 | 0:53:14 | |
on the arrest and handing over of Vladimir Bayanov? | 0:53:14 | 0:53:17 | |
SILENCE | 0:53:19 | 0:53:22 | |
HE CHUCKLES | 0:53:22 | 0:53:23 | |
I have great faith in the Danish legal system | 0:53:28 | 0:53:32 | |
and I can assure you that I do not link | 0:53:32 | 0:53:36 | |
the wind energy deal... | 0:53:36 | 0:53:39 | |
with the case against Bayanov. | 0:53:39 | 0:53:41 | |
Thank you, I think that was the last question. | 0:53:41 | 0:53:43 | |
-You can take some pictures now. -CASCADE OF CLICKING SHUTTERS | 0:53:43 | 0:53:46 | |
I really appreciate your answer to the last question, | 0:53:52 | 0:53:56 | |
because I'm not going to hand him over. | 0:53:56 | 0:53:58 | |
And thank you very much. | 0:54:02 | 0:54:05 | |
JAZZ MUSIC PLAYS | 0:54:07 | 0:54:09 | |
TURNS DOWN MUSIC | 0:54:45 | 0:54:47 | |
< DOOR CLOSES | 0:56:03 | 0:56:04 | |
WINE GLUGS | 0:56:52 | 0:56:54 | |
BOTH CHUCKLE | 0:57:07 | 0:57:09 | |
Subtitles for the deaf and hard of hearing by Red Bee Media Ltd | 0:57:50 | 0:57:55 | |
E-mail [email protected] | 0:57:55 | 0:57:58 |