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My name is Stephen McGann | 0:00:06 | 0:00:08 | |
and I play Dr Patrick Turner in Call The Midwife. | 0:00:08 | 0:00:11 | |
And you catch us at a really strange time of year. | 0:00:13 | 0:00:16 | |
It's the final day of filming | 0:00:16 | 0:00:18 | |
and it's all a bit like the circus is leaving town. | 0:00:18 | 0:00:20 | |
You've got all the props men taking odd bits and pieces away. | 0:00:20 | 0:00:24 | |
It's also a great time for reflection. | 0:00:24 | 0:00:26 | |
I absolutely love this job. | 0:00:26 | 0:00:29 | |
One of the things I really love about it is, | 0:00:33 | 0:00:35 | |
although the stories that we tell are fictional, at their core, | 0:00:35 | 0:00:40 | |
they're based upon the lives and experiences of real people. | 0:00:40 | 0:00:44 | |
So, as we finish filming the latest series of Call The Midwife, | 0:00:44 | 0:00:47 | |
I am starting my own personal journey to find out more | 0:00:47 | 0:00:50 | |
about the stories behind this amazing show. | 0:00:50 | 0:00:53 | |
It's a real privilege, I think, to bring new life into the world. | 0:00:56 | 0:00:59 | |
This is absolutely lovely. | 0:00:59 | 0:01:01 | |
-It's like a photograph of history. -Yes. | 0:01:01 | 0:01:03 | |
I'm going to meet the real people | 0:01:03 | 0:01:06 | |
behind some of the most moving stories we've told. | 0:01:06 | 0:01:09 | |
One of the nurses just sort of took me to her. | 0:01:10 | 0:01:12 | |
When she did sort of unwrap everything, | 0:01:12 | 0:01:14 | |
I don't know if she was even aware that she'd looked at my limbs. | 0:01:14 | 0:01:17 | |
She just looked at my face and said, | 0:01:17 | 0:01:19 | |
"She's beautiful, she's mine, and always will be." | 0:01:19 | 0:01:22 | |
And we'll take a sneak preview of some of the dramatic stories | 0:01:22 | 0:01:26 | |
you'll soon see in the new series. | 0:01:26 | 0:01:28 | |
-PARP! -That's quite sufficient, | 0:01:28 | 0:01:30 | |
thank you, Abdul. | 0:01:30 | 0:01:32 | |
We'll find out how the series came to be written... | 0:01:33 | 0:01:36 | |
Midwives are present at almost every single birth in this country, | 0:01:37 | 0:01:41 | |
and yet, the story had never been told. | 0:01:41 | 0:01:44 | |
..and we'll be hearing from the writer and executive producer, | 0:01:44 | 0:01:47 | |
Heidi Thomas. | 0:01:47 | 0:01:49 | |
Every birth is a story that's waiting to unfold, | 0:01:49 | 0:01:52 | |
and the midwife is there to write the beginning, | 0:01:52 | 0:01:55 | |
the middle and the end of that story in her own very particular way. | 0:01:55 | 0:01:59 | |
So when I got the chance to go | 0:01:59 | 0:02:00 | |
and actually meet some of these people, I jumped at it. | 0:02:00 | 0:02:03 | |
I wanted to find out the real stories behind Call The Midwife. | 0:02:03 | 0:02:08 | |
Call The Midwife was originally based on | 0:02:42 | 0:02:45 | |
the memoirs of Jennifer Worth. | 0:02:45 | 0:02:47 | |
They tell of her time as a trainee midwife with an order of nuns | 0:02:47 | 0:02:51 | |
in the East End of London. | 0:02:51 | 0:02:53 | |
It was the early days of the NHS, | 0:02:53 | 0:02:55 | |
and nuns were still pretty heavily involved in midwifery training. | 0:02:55 | 0:03:00 | |
Sadly Jennifer, whose maiden name was Lee, | 0:03:01 | 0:03:04 | |
passed away before our series started. | 0:03:04 | 0:03:07 | |
Today, I've come to meet Antonia Bruce, | 0:03:08 | 0:03:11 | |
a midwife who worked alongside Jennifer and knew her well. | 0:03:11 | 0:03:15 | |
Jennifer and Antonia spent six months together | 0:03:15 | 0:03:17 | |
training to become midwives | 0:03:17 | 0:03:19 | |
with the nuns in this building here in Poplar. | 0:03:19 | 0:03:22 | |
-Yeah. -So, it's 1958... | 0:03:22 | 0:03:24 | |
-Yes. -..and here you are, a young midwife, trainee, | 0:03:24 | 0:03:30 | |
and you have come to this magnificent place. | 0:03:30 | 0:03:34 | |
Now, on television, we know it as Nonnatus House. | 0:03:34 | 0:03:38 | |
-Yes. -But what did you call it? | 0:03:38 | 0:03:40 | |
-The Mission House. -And you began six months of your training? | 0:03:40 | 0:03:44 | |
There was a wonderful ambience, wonderful place. | 0:03:44 | 0:03:47 | |
The particular thrill for me talking to you is, you knew Jennifer Worth. | 0:03:47 | 0:03:52 | |
-Yes. -And you'd shared time with her, | 0:03:52 | 0:03:55 | |
um, and that small core of midwives | 0:03:55 | 0:03:59 | |
on which the book was formed, | 0:03:59 | 0:04:01 | |
on which a crystallising was based, | 0:04:01 | 0:04:04 | |
-you were really a part of, weren't you? -Oh, yes. Absolutely. -Yes. | 0:04:04 | 0:04:07 | |
-Was it a good time to be a midwife? -Much more than today. | 0:04:07 | 0:04:11 | |
I mean, today, there's very little relationship with the midwife. | 0:04:11 | 0:04:14 | |
I mean, we saw the patients before they had their babies, during... | 0:04:14 | 0:04:18 | |
and then afterwards for 14 days. | 0:04:18 | 0:04:20 | |
-Yes. -And it makes for a completely different relationship. | 0:04:20 | 0:04:23 | |
Now, push, Rosemary. | 0:04:23 | 0:04:24 | |
SHE SCREAMS | 0:04:24 | 0:04:27 | |
Well done! | 0:04:27 | 0:04:28 | |
SHE GASPS | 0:04:28 | 0:04:30 | |
Well done! | 0:04:30 | 0:04:31 | |
BABY CRIES | 0:04:33 | 0:04:35 | |
Birth was not considered something abnormal, it wasn't a disease. | 0:04:37 | 0:04:41 | |
-No. -And so no hospitals were ever mentioned, | 0:04:41 | 0:04:44 | |
unless there was an emergency, | 0:04:44 | 0:04:47 | |
and they were delivered at home, happily, relaxed. | 0:04:47 | 0:04:50 | |
-Yeah. -And they had confidence in the midwife. | 0:04:50 | 0:04:53 | |
'I suppose most of us drew our first breath | 0:04:53 | 0:04:56 | |
'in the capable hands of a midwife. | 0:04:56 | 0:04:58 | |
'If the birth is likely to be abnormal, | 0:04:58 | 0:05:00 | |
'it should take place in hospital, | 0:05:00 | 0:05:02 | |
'but, otherwise, the general medical view is that this natural function | 0:05:02 | 0:05:06 | |
'is best carried out in the familiar surroundings of the home. | 0:05:06 | 0:05:10 | |
'After all, babies WERE born before hospitals existed.' | 0:05:10 | 0:05:13 | |
Was it a real vocation for you? Was it more than just a job? | 0:05:15 | 0:05:18 | |
This was a very special place, | 0:05:18 | 0:05:20 | |
and there was a religious background to everything, if you like. | 0:05:20 | 0:05:23 | |
The routine of the sisters, and the chapel and things like that - | 0:05:23 | 0:05:27 | |
to which we were included, if we wished to go. | 0:05:27 | 0:05:30 | |
DEVOTIONAL SINGING | 0:05:30 | 0:05:33 | |
Most of us were Christians, and Jenny was, too. | 0:05:38 | 0:05:41 | |
But the work was... it was a vocation, you know? | 0:05:41 | 0:05:44 | |
-Yes. -And so we really applied ourselves, | 0:05:44 | 0:05:48 | |
and the outside world sort of disappeared, rather. | 0:05:48 | 0:05:51 | |
A bit like firemen, there must have been times where you sat there going | 0:05:51 | 0:05:55 | |
about your breakfast or your normal business and, all of a sudden, | 0:05:55 | 0:05:58 | |
-the telephone would ring... -Mm-hm. | 0:05:58 | 0:06:00 | |
..and suddenly, you had to burst into action. | 0:06:00 | 0:06:03 | |
Oh, come on, stir your stumps. | 0:06:03 | 0:06:05 | |
I'm first call, and you're coming with me. | 0:06:05 | 0:06:07 | |
'As soon as they called, you were up and off.' | 0:06:07 | 0:06:11 | |
It's in my case book that I was in Bow and I was in Poplar, | 0:06:11 | 0:06:14 | |
and all these other places all around. | 0:06:14 | 0:06:16 | |
We did a lot of cycling. | 0:06:16 | 0:06:18 | |
There are between 80 and 100 babies born each month in Poplar. | 0:06:18 | 0:06:22 | |
As soon as one vacates its pram, another one takes its place. | 0:06:22 | 0:06:27 | |
And thus it was, and ever shall be. | 0:06:27 | 0:06:31 | |
So, Antonia, this wonderful book - | 0:06:31 | 0:06:33 | |
could you explain to me what this is and why you have it? | 0:06:33 | 0:06:36 | |
Final exams. | 0:06:36 | 0:06:38 | |
-Yes. -We had to present 12 cases that we had been responsible | 0:06:38 | 0:06:42 | |
for the mother, the baby, so it's all recorded in here. | 0:06:42 | 0:06:47 | |
Mother, prenatal, labour, postnatal. | 0:06:47 | 0:06:50 | |
But this is absolutely lovely. | 0:06:50 | 0:06:53 | |
It's actually birth... the processes, | 0:06:53 | 0:06:55 | |
as you're going round during the birth, you're... | 0:06:55 | 0:06:58 | |
"Normal delivery. Living female infant. | 0:06:58 | 0:07:01 | |
"In good condition, cried well." | 0:07:01 | 0:07:03 | |
SHE LAUGHS | 0:07:03 | 0:07:04 | |
It's wonderful, it's like a photograph of history. | 0:07:04 | 0:07:07 | |
Yes. Yes. | 0:07:07 | 0:07:09 | |
That somebody's life. | 0:07:09 | 0:07:10 | |
-Yeah. -That's a new life in the world. | 0:07:10 | 0:07:12 | |
Absolutely, a miracle. | 0:07:12 | 0:07:14 | |
Oh, now, what is this wonderful thing here? | 0:07:14 | 0:07:17 | |
-Tell me about that. -Well, this is what you would have called | 0:07:17 | 0:07:20 | |
-an autograph album. -Yes. -It's a writing album here. | 0:07:20 | 0:07:23 | |
And inside, I have writings from many different people, | 0:07:23 | 0:07:28 | |
particularly, four nuns who were at Poplar, and Jenny, | 0:07:28 | 0:07:32 | |
who is this first one in here. | 0:07:32 | 0:07:34 | |
So Jenny wrote a little dedication in your book? | 0:07:34 | 0:07:37 | |
-Yes. -Fantastic. "It was summer when I found you in the meadow long ago, | 0:07:37 | 0:07:42 | |
"when the golden vetch was growing by the shore." | 0:07:42 | 0:07:45 | |
Oh, it's by Jennifer Lee. | 0:07:45 | 0:07:47 | |
These are fantastic. | 0:07:47 | 0:07:49 | |
They were very special, the sisters, | 0:07:49 | 0:07:51 | |
and I wanted a little record, you know. | 0:07:51 | 0:07:53 | |
-Yes. -But they were very private, | 0:07:53 | 0:07:55 | |
and they weren't allowed to give or take things. | 0:07:55 | 0:07:57 | |
So by actually having their little writings in here is very special. | 0:07:57 | 0:08:01 | |
That's beautiful. And you're absolutely right, of course, | 0:08:01 | 0:08:03 | |
they don't have possessions. | 0:08:03 | 0:08:05 | |
-No. -So their possessions are their minds and their hearts. -Mmm. | 0:08:05 | 0:08:09 | |
"So, Lord, complete thy great design in me. | 0:08:09 | 0:08:12 | |
"Give or reclaim thy gifts, | 0:08:12 | 0:08:14 | |
"but let me be strong in thy strength | 0:08:14 | 0:08:17 | |
"and with thy freedom, free." | 0:08:17 | 0:08:19 | |
-It's lovely, that. -Voices from the past. | 0:08:19 | 0:08:21 | |
Yes, absolutely. | 0:08:21 | 0:08:23 | |
BACKGROUND CHATTER | 0:08:25 | 0:08:27 | |
And back behind the scenes of Call The Midwife, | 0:08:27 | 0:08:29 | |
I'm with someone else who knew Jennifer. | 0:08:29 | 0:08:31 | |
-Completely focused on the child. -Completely focused on the child. | 0:08:31 | 0:08:35 | |
-Yeah. -Pulse rate - very fast. | 0:08:35 | 0:08:36 | |
How many seconds do I need for that? | 0:08:36 | 0:08:38 | |
-We need a couple. -You need a few seconds... -Yeah, at least. | 0:08:38 | 0:08:41 | |
..because it will take you about six seconds to get a count. | 0:08:41 | 0:08:44 | |
Terri Coates is the midwife who helped Jennifer | 0:08:44 | 0:08:47 | |
with the clinical accuracy in her books. | 0:08:47 | 0:08:49 | |
..Is just to tilt the baby's head back slightly. | 0:08:49 | 0:08:52 | |
She now works with us on set | 0:08:52 | 0:08:54 | |
to ensure all the medical scenes look as realistic as possible. | 0:08:54 | 0:08:58 | |
This is George, and he does sleep really well when he's asleep. | 0:08:58 | 0:09:02 | |
Shall we hold it and do one more? | 0:09:02 | 0:09:04 | |
And...action. | 0:09:04 | 0:09:06 | |
Come on, little one. Come on. | 0:09:09 | 0:09:11 | |
No response to painful stimuli. | 0:09:16 | 0:09:18 | |
Yes, let's try oxygen. | 0:09:18 | 0:09:20 | |
Come on. | 0:09:21 | 0:09:23 | |
'In fact, Jennifer Worth's memoirs were written in response | 0:09:24 | 0:09:28 | |
'to an article Terri wrote for the Royal College of Midwives.' | 0:09:28 | 0:09:31 | |
It goes back to 1998 when I was finishing a master's degree | 0:09:31 | 0:09:35 | |
and I wanted to look at how midwives were perceived in literature. | 0:09:35 | 0:09:40 | |
And it was pure professional narcissism. | 0:09:40 | 0:09:42 | |
It was a sidestep away from a lot of the scientific books | 0:09:42 | 0:09:46 | |
that I'd been reading. | 0:09:46 | 0:09:48 | |
And I just wanted to read a novel, if I'm perfectly honest. | 0:09:48 | 0:09:51 | |
And I was drawing a blank. | 0:09:51 | 0:09:52 | |
Midwives were the invisible force in literature. | 0:09:52 | 0:09:55 | |
-They weren't there. -So you wanted to do something about it? | 0:09:55 | 0:09:58 | |
How did you go about that? | 0:09:58 | 0:09:59 | |
Well, from an 8,000-word rant, | 0:09:59 | 0:10:02 | |
it got pared down to a more reasonable 1,500-word mutter, | 0:10:02 | 0:10:06 | |
and it was published by the Royal College of Midwives. | 0:10:06 | 0:10:09 | |
-So you sent out a clarion call... -I did. | 0:10:09 | 0:10:12 | |
..to midwives to come back with some creative answer | 0:10:12 | 0:10:15 | |
-to why midwives are invisible? -Yes. | 0:10:15 | 0:10:17 | |
And Jennifer Worth was one of the people who wrote to me. | 0:10:17 | 0:10:20 | |
And about 18 months later, | 0:10:20 | 0:10:21 | |
she said that I had inspired her to write her memoirs, | 0:10:21 | 0:10:25 | |
and she sent me her handwritten manuscript, which was wonderful. | 0:10:25 | 0:10:29 | |
The stories leapt off the page. | 0:10:29 | 0:10:31 | |
But sitting there as a midwifery lecturer, | 0:10:31 | 0:10:34 | |
I really wanted to get my red pen onto the clinical parts of it, | 0:10:34 | 0:10:37 | |
because there were lots of bits that she'd misremembered. | 0:10:37 | 0:10:40 | |
I telephoned her and asked her | 0:10:40 | 0:10:42 | |
if she would like me to edit some of the bits. | 0:10:42 | 0:10:44 | |
She asked me to, "Edit all of it, please, dear." | 0:10:44 | 0:10:47 | |
And I did. | 0:10:47 | 0:10:48 | |
Jennifer published her first book of memoirs in 2002. | 0:10:51 | 0:10:54 | |
When I first read Jennifer Worth's memoirs, | 0:10:56 | 0:10:59 | |
I thought they'd make fantastic television for many reasons. | 0:10:59 | 0:11:02 | |
The stories themselves were so inherently dramatic. | 0:11:02 | 0:11:05 | |
She had a great cast of characters | 0:11:05 | 0:11:07 | |
and she was dealing with life-and-death issues | 0:11:07 | 0:11:10 | |
in every chapter, but also the fact | 0:11:10 | 0:11:12 | |
that midwifery itself had never been dramatised on television. | 0:11:12 | 0:11:16 | |
I think the reason that I felt Heidi Thomas was the perfect person to | 0:11:17 | 0:11:21 | |
adapt the books was because she, as a writer, combines the strengths | 0:11:21 | 0:11:25 | |
that are needed for any great TV adaptation. | 0:11:25 | 0:11:27 | |
She's incredibly passionate about what she does, | 0:11:27 | 0:11:31 | |
her writing is very emotional, | 0:11:31 | 0:11:33 | |
she's able to combine both tragedy and humour in every scene. | 0:11:33 | 0:11:38 | |
Sister Mary Cynthia and I will take the district list today. | 0:11:38 | 0:11:41 | |
Sorry, mad dash. Mrs Akintola's waters just broke | 0:11:41 | 0:11:43 | |
and she's contracting every three minutes. Would you see to the board? | 0:11:43 | 0:11:46 | |
Naturellement. | 0:11:46 | 0:11:48 | |
The first time I met Jennifer, | 0:11:48 | 0:11:49 | |
she already knew that I was going to be adapting her memoirs | 0:11:49 | 0:11:52 | |
for television, so it was a bit like an arranged marriage. | 0:11:52 | 0:11:55 | |
We HAD to get on. And indeed we did get on. | 0:11:55 | 0:11:57 | |
I formed a lovely friendship with her over the first couple of years | 0:11:57 | 0:12:00 | |
of us developing the scripts, | 0:12:00 | 0:12:02 | |
and me conferring with her about the best way of putting the material | 0:12:02 | 0:12:05 | |
she'd created onto the page for television drama. | 0:12:05 | 0:12:09 | |
When we talked to Jennifer Worth about adapting her books, | 0:12:09 | 0:12:12 | |
she very quickly realised that we would exhaust the material | 0:12:12 | 0:12:16 | |
she'd written herself, | 0:12:16 | 0:12:18 | |
and she loved the idea that the world that she had created | 0:12:18 | 0:12:21 | |
could continue beyond the books, and have a life of its own. | 0:12:21 | 0:12:25 | |
Nonnatus House, midwife speaking. | 0:12:25 | 0:12:27 | |
Ah, and Nurse Gilbert has joined us. | 0:12:27 | 0:12:29 | |
How very kind of you to spare the time. | 0:12:29 | 0:12:31 | |
You can accompany Nurse Franklin. | 0:12:31 | 0:12:34 | |
Maternity home for me. Mrs Mullucks' labour appears to be revving up. | 0:12:34 | 0:12:37 | |
Jennifer's memoirs gave us most of the material we needed | 0:12:39 | 0:12:43 | |
for the first series, which was only six episodes long. | 0:12:43 | 0:12:46 | |
By the time the second series was commissioned, | 0:12:46 | 0:12:49 | |
we realised that we probably had about 50% of the material we needed | 0:12:49 | 0:12:53 | |
for that series, which was going to be eight episodes long | 0:12:53 | 0:12:56 | |
and, therefore, it became obvious to me I was going to have to go out | 0:12:56 | 0:12:59 | |
and gather material from real people, real sources, real midwives, | 0:12:59 | 0:13:04 | |
and also go to work in archives and libraries. | 0:13:04 | 0:13:07 | |
So now I'm off in search of some of the earliest midwifery sources. | 0:13:14 | 0:13:19 | |
Wow. | 0:13:24 | 0:13:25 | |
I'm here at the John Rylands Library in Manchester to meet midwife | 0:13:25 | 0:13:29 | |
and historian Dr Janette Allotey. | 0:13:29 | 0:13:31 | |
-Lovely to meet you. -And you. I've got some books to show you. | 0:13:31 | 0:13:35 | |
Oh, fantastic. | 0:13:35 | 0:13:36 | |
-Come with me. -You lead the way. | 0:13:36 | 0:13:38 | |
Janette is an expert in the history of midwifery. | 0:13:38 | 0:13:41 | |
So this is the first book that we've got. | 0:13:41 | 0:13:44 | |
-Yes. -The Birth Of Mankind. | 0:13:44 | 0:13:45 | |
The original one was written in 1513. | 0:13:45 | 0:13:48 | |
The original was written in German and it was written in Latin and then | 0:13:48 | 0:13:52 | |
it was translated from Latin into the English. | 0:13:52 | 0:13:54 | |
There wasn't a natural English edition at the time? | 0:13:54 | 0:13:57 | |
Did we have to go overseas to bring this back? | 0:13:57 | 0:14:00 | |
Yes, that's right. | 0:14:00 | 0:14:02 | |
A lot of the ancient birthing theory emanated from Greece. | 0:14:02 | 0:14:07 | |
In all the years I've done Call The Midwife, to my shame, | 0:14:07 | 0:14:10 | |
I don't actually know what the word means. | 0:14:10 | 0:14:12 | |
Where does the word "midwife" actually come from? | 0:14:12 | 0:14:14 | |
Well, it's from Middle English. | 0:14:14 | 0:14:16 | |
It's a Germanic word and it means "with woman". | 0:14:16 | 0:14:19 | |
-With woman. -Yes, which is what midwifery is about, isn't it? | 0:14:19 | 0:14:22 | |
Being with women. | 0:14:22 | 0:14:24 | |
The next book... | 0:14:24 | 0:14:25 | |
The one that was written by a midwife for midwives, | 0:14:25 | 0:14:29 | |
-and the first one in this country, written in 1671... -Wow! | 0:14:29 | 0:14:33 | |
..was by a midwife called Jane Sharp. | 0:14:33 | 0:14:36 | |
"The Midwives Book On The Whole Art Of Midwifry Discovered, | 0:14:36 | 0:14:40 | |
"directing child-bearing women how to behave themselves." | 0:14:40 | 0:14:44 | |
This is fantastic. | 0:14:44 | 0:14:45 | |
So this was 1671. | 0:14:45 | 0:14:48 | |
-Yes, yeah. -Who was Jane Sharp? | 0:14:48 | 0:14:51 | |
Well, she was, um, | 0:14:51 | 0:14:53 | |
a practising midwife of 30 years and she wanted to pass on | 0:14:53 | 0:14:57 | |
some of her expertise to junior midwives. | 0:14:57 | 0:15:00 | |
There are just two pictures in this book. | 0:15:00 | 0:15:03 | |
-Really? -Yes. So it's interesting. | 0:15:03 | 0:15:05 | |
She's describing anatomy without many diagrams. | 0:15:05 | 0:15:08 | |
This is amazing. Look at this. So what we have is a... | 0:15:08 | 0:15:11 | |
..a picture of a woman's anatomy, child-bearing. | 0:15:13 | 0:15:17 | |
She looks rather mannish, actually. | 0:15:17 | 0:15:19 | |
-She does, actually. -A bit like Michelangelo's David. -Yeah. | 0:15:19 | 0:15:22 | |
-There's the other one. -So we have all these young men in the womb. | 0:15:22 | 0:15:25 | |
So, yeah. We have these... They look like three-year-olds, don't they? | 0:15:25 | 0:15:28 | |
They do. They look like, "What am I doing in this womb?" | 0:15:28 | 0:15:30 | |
And they're very athletic. They've got lots of space, haven't they? | 0:15:30 | 0:15:33 | |
-Enormous amounts of space! -We don't know what gestation they are. | 0:15:33 | 0:15:35 | |
She did explain how to deliver these babies | 0:15:35 | 0:15:38 | |
in various difficult positions. | 0:15:38 | 0:15:41 | |
So, Janette, you were also a midwife. | 0:15:41 | 0:15:44 | |
-Yes, yes. -How was that? | 0:15:44 | 0:15:46 | |
It is wonderful. It's such a privilege. | 0:15:46 | 0:15:48 | |
Is everyone special, though? | 0:15:48 | 0:15:50 | |
-Yes. -Yeah. | 0:15:50 | 0:15:51 | |
-And different. -Different. It must be different. | 0:15:51 | 0:15:54 | |
You can get textbooks on midwifery but every case is different. | 0:15:54 | 0:15:58 | |
Nobody fits the textbook. | 0:15:58 | 0:16:00 | |
The joy of Call The Midwife is that | 0:16:03 | 0:16:05 | |
everyone has their own unique birth story. | 0:16:05 | 0:16:08 | |
Man, woman or child, we were all brought into the world by someone. | 0:16:08 | 0:16:12 | |
My own personal story begins here in the city where I was born - | 0:16:15 | 0:16:20 | |
Liverpool. | 0:16:20 | 0:16:21 | |
I've come back to meet a former nun and midwife whose own experiences | 0:16:22 | 0:16:27 | |
echo a storyline close to my character's heart. | 0:16:27 | 0:16:30 | |
But first, I'm taking the opportunity to visit the house | 0:16:31 | 0:16:34 | |
where my own Call The Midwife story began. | 0:16:34 | 0:16:37 | |
Here's a memory jogger. | 0:16:40 | 0:16:42 | |
This is Birstall Road, Liverpool. | 0:16:42 | 0:16:45 | |
All my childhood was here. | 0:16:46 | 0:16:48 | |
And this is where I lived, number 4. | 0:16:51 | 0:16:53 | |
There were five kids, a mum and dad. | 0:16:54 | 0:16:58 | |
Seven of us in that house. | 0:16:58 | 0:17:00 | |
And I was born in that room. | 0:17:01 | 0:17:05 | |
And the reason was, just like Call The Midwife, my mum had me at home, | 0:17:06 | 0:17:12 | |
delivered by a midwife on a bike, | 0:17:12 | 0:17:15 | |
who drew up here on a really snowy night in a really bad mood, | 0:17:15 | 0:17:19 | |
and had me. | 0:17:19 | 0:17:21 | |
It was during the worst winter in Britain for over 200 years. | 0:17:23 | 0:17:26 | |
The snow was apparently feet high. | 0:17:26 | 0:17:28 | |
And she came through the snow on a bicycle | 0:17:28 | 0:17:31 | |
and, apparently, my mum said she was in a really foul mood. | 0:17:31 | 0:17:34 | |
So when she was delivering me, she was, well, really snappy. | 0:17:34 | 0:17:38 | |
My mum said it was terrible. | 0:17:38 | 0:17:40 | |
I think I came into this world apologising. | 0:17:40 | 0:17:43 | |
I've probably been apologising ever since. | 0:17:43 | 0:17:45 | |
There is a lovely story my brother Joe tells. | 0:17:45 | 0:17:48 | |
It's one of his earliest memories. | 0:17:48 | 0:17:50 | |
He was woken by the sound of me being born, and he came downstairs. | 0:17:50 | 0:17:54 | |
It wasn't a very big house. | 0:17:54 | 0:17:56 | |
So he came downstairs and my dad was sitting on the stairs, because he | 0:17:56 | 0:18:00 | |
wasn't allowed in the room, just like in Call The Midwife. | 0:18:00 | 0:18:03 | |
So Joe asked my dad what was going on and my dad took him back to bed | 0:18:03 | 0:18:07 | |
and explained what was happening - | 0:18:07 | 0:18:09 | |
that he was going to have a new little baby brother or sister. | 0:18:09 | 0:18:12 | |
Now, my mum was one of those Call The Midwife women, | 0:18:12 | 0:18:16 | |
and in that time, they married young, | 0:18:16 | 0:18:18 | |
they had lots of children and they had to cope. | 0:18:18 | 0:18:20 | |
When I was a kid, this street was full of children. | 0:18:20 | 0:18:24 | |
We were caught up in this post-war baby boom and so every house had its | 0:18:24 | 0:18:29 | |
own family and every family had its own character, and they would form | 0:18:29 | 0:18:34 | |
natural football teams with kids in the street | 0:18:34 | 0:18:36 | |
or rivals in a gang game, | 0:18:36 | 0:18:39 | |
and it was wonderful. It was an absolute riot of noise. | 0:18:39 | 0:18:42 | |
That's what's so different about that and today, | 0:18:42 | 0:18:44 | |
where it's quite peaceful. | 0:18:44 | 0:18:46 | |
But back then, that's the one abiding memory - | 0:18:46 | 0:18:50 | |
action, games, footballs, | 0:18:50 | 0:18:52 | |
tennis balls, everything happening all the time. | 0:18:52 | 0:18:55 | |
Just like the streets in Call The Midwife - children everywhere. | 0:18:55 | 0:18:58 | |
And this was my handiwork. | 0:18:58 | 0:19:02 | |
Done with tar. That was my friend, Mark. | 0:19:03 | 0:19:07 | |
And this was the beginnings of "S" and an "M" here. | 0:19:07 | 0:19:12 | |
Just like Dr Turner - still terrible doctor's handwriting back then. | 0:19:12 | 0:19:16 | |
My own small criminal past. | 0:19:18 | 0:19:21 | |
We weren't well-off by any means | 0:19:26 | 0:19:28 | |
but there were people who had it much harder than us. | 0:19:28 | 0:19:31 | |
One man who documented how hard life could be for some here in the '60s | 0:19:33 | 0:19:37 | |
was photographer Nick Hedges. | 0:19:37 | 0:19:39 | |
He was commissioned by the charity Shelter to photograph | 0:19:41 | 0:19:44 | |
the harsh realities of the housing crisis across the UK. | 0:19:44 | 0:19:47 | |
MUSIC: Daniella by Shack | 0:19:47 | 0:19:48 | |
# I remember crossing a bridge | 0:19:48 | 0:19:51 | |
# Yeah, Daniella and me | 0:19:53 | 0:19:56 | |
# I remember Jack went away | 0:19:57 | 0:20:00 | |
# And we followed him for seven days | 0:20:01 | 0:20:07 | |
# All the pubs and bars he'd been in | 0:20:10 | 0:20:13 | |
# All the shops and places that he'd seen... # | 0:20:16 | 0:20:20 | |
So, Nick, these photographs were taken in 1969. | 0:20:20 | 0:20:24 | |
Liverpool was the centre of the cultural world by then. | 0:20:24 | 0:20:28 | |
-It was. -Yet these pictures look like they're out of Dickens. | 0:20:28 | 0:20:33 | |
It's incredible. | 0:20:33 | 0:20:34 | |
I think the housing crisis in the late '60s was disguised. | 0:20:34 | 0:20:39 | |
A lot of families were trapped in very poor housing with not much hope | 0:20:39 | 0:20:45 | |
of getting out of it. | 0:20:45 | 0:20:47 | |
Did you see this kind of poverty repeated in other cities in England? | 0:20:47 | 0:20:52 | |
Yeah. I mean, I think most of the major industrial cities of Britain | 0:20:52 | 0:20:57 | |
in the late '60s and '70s | 0:20:57 | 0:20:59 | |
were suffering from the same kind of malaise. | 0:20:59 | 0:21:01 | |
Significant areas of real housing deprivation. | 0:21:01 | 0:21:05 | |
Did you ever get down to London or the East End? | 0:21:05 | 0:21:08 | |
Oh, yeah. I used to live in London and the thing about London, | 0:21:08 | 0:21:10 | |
as you know, is that it is this city of huge contrasts | 0:21:10 | 0:21:14 | |
and I used to get the Tube to Whitechapel | 0:21:14 | 0:21:18 | |
and I would emerge into a completely different world. | 0:21:18 | 0:21:23 | |
The old East End. | 0:21:23 | 0:21:25 | |
The old East End, full of tenement blocks and really poor housing. | 0:21:25 | 0:21:30 | |
Yeah. | 0:21:30 | 0:21:32 | |
Families living on next to nothing. | 0:21:32 | 0:21:34 | |
As a young child in the '60s, | 0:21:34 | 0:21:36 | |
I remember those old soot-black houses, | 0:21:36 | 0:21:39 | |
but they were already beginning to knock them all down around me | 0:21:39 | 0:21:42 | |
-and put new housing up. -I mean, what had happened, of course, | 0:21:42 | 0:21:45 | |
was those communities with quite strong bonds... | 0:21:45 | 0:21:48 | |
-Yeah. -..were being broken down... -Yeah. -..by the demolition. | 0:21:48 | 0:21:52 | |
And you found there were families living in multi-let accommodation | 0:21:52 | 0:21:55 | |
where, previously, the houses weren't multi-let. | 0:21:55 | 0:21:58 | |
-OK. -And you got people living in cellars, like Mrs Ditchfield here, | 0:21:58 | 0:22:01 | |
I mean, with her daughter, | 0:22:01 | 0:22:03 | |
and then other families living in a single room. | 0:22:03 | 0:22:07 | |
It was dreadful. | 0:22:07 | 0:22:09 | |
And especially when they were bringing new babies into the world | 0:22:09 | 0:22:12 | |
and starting a new family. | 0:22:12 | 0:22:13 | |
-Absolutely. -You had huge anxieties about the health of those children. | 0:22:13 | 0:22:17 | |
If there was one thing | 0:22:23 | 0:22:25 | |
those families could rely on, | 0:22:25 | 0:22:27 | |
it was the nuns and midwives | 0:22:27 | 0:22:29 | |
who worked here in Liverpool at the time, | 0:22:29 | 0:22:32 | |
like Eleanor Stewart. | 0:22:32 | 0:22:33 | |
-Eleanor. -Hi, Stephen. | 0:22:35 | 0:22:37 | |
-Nice to meet you. -It is lovely to meet you. | 0:22:37 | 0:22:40 | |
Lovely to meet you. | 0:22:40 | 0:22:41 | |
Well, what do you make of this? | 0:22:43 | 0:22:44 | |
-This is fantastic, isn't it? -Brings back memories. -Oh, doesn't it just? | 0:22:44 | 0:22:47 | |
There's always been a close relationship | 0:22:47 | 0:22:49 | |
between nuns and midwives. | 0:22:49 | 0:22:51 | |
Even before Church licensing of midwives began in the 1500S, | 0:22:51 | 0:22:54 | |
the nuns of many orders cared for mothers and babies | 0:22:54 | 0:22:57 | |
in deprived communities. | 0:22:57 | 0:22:59 | |
As late as the 1950s and '60s, | 0:22:59 | 0:23:02 | |
some nuns still worked as midwives in the community, | 0:23:02 | 0:23:05 | |
as they do in Call The Midwife. | 0:23:05 | 0:23:07 | |
Eleanor was one of those nuns. | 0:23:07 | 0:23:10 | |
So where do you take a former nun to reminisce about the old days? | 0:23:10 | 0:23:14 | |
The pub, of course! | 0:23:14 | 0:23:16 | |
Here we are. Liverpool is swinging, | 0:23:17 | 0:23:20 | |
so there's this impression and side to Liverpool | 0:23:20 | 0:23:22 | |
like it's suddenly the centre of the world. | 0:23:22 | 0:23:24 | |
-Yes. -But of course, there's another side to this city that I remember | 0:23:24 | 0:23:27 | |
when I was a young child in the late '60s. | 0:23:27 | 0:23:29 | |
Did you come upon and see for yourself | 0:23:29 | 0:23:32 | |
-the levels of poverty that were there? -Yes, I did. | 0:23:32 | 0:23:35 | |
We delivered babies in, really, housing conditions that were quite, | 0:23:35 | 0:23:40 | |
quite dreadful. | 0:23:40 | 0:23:42 | |
Families living in one room. | 0:23:42 | 0:23:44 | |
The women were amazingly resilient and, you know, | 0:23:44 | 0:23:48 | |
just faced with such courage these awful conditions. | 0:23:48 | 0:23:53 | |
There was a community spirit that was very strong amongst women. | 0:23:53 | 0:23:58 | |
They supported each other, they helped each other. | 0:23:58 | 0:24:00 | |
They looked after each other's children. | 0:24:00 | 0:24:02 | |
Sometimes they even suckled each other's children. | 0:24:02 | 0:24:05 | |
-Really? -Oh, yes, that was not uncommon at all. | 0:24:05 | 0:24:08 | |
Oh, wow! What came first? | 0:24:08 | 0:24:09 | |
Were you a nurse first before you were a nun? | 0:24:09 | 0:24:12 | |
No, I was a nun first. | 0:24:12 | 0:24:13 | |
I went to France and was a novitiate | 0:24:13 | 0:24:16 | |
and then made my vows in France. | 0:24:16 | 0:24:18 | |
Then I came back to do my general training | 0:24:18 | 0:24:20 | |
and then, after three years, | 0:24:20 | 0:24:22 | |
when I became a registered nurse, | 0:24:22 | 0:24:24 | |
I then went to Liverpool Maternity Hospital. | 0:24:24 | 0:24:26 | |
Well, I think midwifery was really, for me, | 0:24:26 | 0:24:29 | |
a kind of life-changing experience. | 0:24:29 | 0:24:30 | |
I mean, I never went back to general nursing. | 0:24:30 | 0:24:33 | |
Once I'd been a midwife, I stayed a midwife, | 0:24:33 | 0:24:35 | |
and I just found it the most wonderful job. | 0:24:35 | 0:24:38 | |
So, do you remember the first time you were confronted with a birth? | 0:24:38 | 0:24:41 | |
Well, yeah, I mean, you had to witness so many births | 0:24:41 | 0:24:44 | |
before you could actually be allowed to help, | 0:24:44 | 0:24:47 | |
so wherever the nurses were, | 0:24:47 | 0:24:49 | |
when a woman was in labour, about to give birth, | 0:24:49 | 0:24:52 | |
a bell would ring, and then all the student midwives that needed to see | 0:24:52 | 0:24:56 | |
deliveries would rush, | 0:24:56 | 0:24:58 | |
so sometimes there would be eight or nine of us | 0:24:58 | 0:25:00 | |
standing round the bottom of a bed | 0:25:00 | 0:25:03 | |
while some poor lady, grunting and pushing... And they were lovely, | 0:25:03 | 0:25:07 | |
they'd say, "Can you all see, girls? Can you all see?" | 0:25:07 | 0:25:10 | |
And it was really hilarious! | 0:25:10 | 0:25:12 | |
And then of course, the wonderful day happened | 0:25:12 | 0:25:15 | |
when you had witnessed your ten deliveries. | 0:25:15 | 0:25:17 | |
I mean, the first time I saw a birth, | 0:25:17 | 0:25:20 | |
I just thought it was absolutely wonderful. | 0:25:20 | 0:25:23 | |
I mean, Liverpool was an incredibly fertile city. | 0:25:23 | 0:25:27 | |
-HE CHUCKLES -I mean, it really was. | 0:25:27 | 0:25:29 | |
I mean, I think almost every hospital had a maternity unit. | 0:25:29 | 0:25:32 | |
-I was surrounded by an aura of fecundity, I suppose. -Yes. | 0:25:32 | 0:25:37 | |
-I had a baby in my arms some time of every day... -Yes. | 0:25:37 | 0:25:41 | |
..and I became overwhelmed by the desire to have a child of my own, | 0:25:41 | 0:25:46 | |
which, you know, clearly, | 0:25:46 | 0:25:48 | |
sadly, is not compatible with a vow of chastity. | 0:25:48 | 0:25:51 | |
-HE CHUCKLES -I mean, it just isn't, you know! | 0:25:51 | 0:25:54 | |
There are some interesting parallels here. | 0:25:56 | 0:25:58 | |
Yes, like Sister Bernadette, you know. | 0:25:58 | 0:26:00 | |
People have sometimes said to me, "Did you meet somebody?" | 0:26:00 | 0:26:03 | |
Well, no. It took me about three years to find a husband. | 0:26:03 | 0:26:05 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:26:05 | 0:26:06 | |
-But... -But you knew he was out there somewhere? | 0:26:06 | 0:26:09 | |
I knew he was out there somewhere. I just had to find him. | 0:26:09 | 0:26:11 | |
I still dream about it. | 0:26:11 | 0:26:13 | |
I dream that I'm having to make this awful, anguishing decision again, | 0:26:13 | 0:26:17 | |
all over again. So that was a long time ago. | 0:26:17 | 0:26:20 | |
I mean, I left in '69, so, you know, | 0:26:20 | 0:26:22 | |
I'm still remembering that decision-making process | 0:26:22 | 0:26:25 | |
and what it cost me. | 0:26:25 | 0:26:27 | |
When Mother Henrietta put me on the train at Lime Street, | 0:26:30 | 0:26:33 | |
she said, very noisily in the carriage, | 0:26:33 | 0:26:36 | |
she put her head in the carriage and she said, "Now, dear," she said, | 0:26:36 | 0:26:40 | |
"You're on your way," she said, "I know you want to have a baby." | 0:26:40 | 0:26:44 | |
Every head in the carriage turned towards me. | 0:26:44 | 0:26:47 | |
She said, "I know you want to have a baby," she said, | 0:26:47 | 0:26:50 | |
"but do get a husband first. It's so much neater." | 0:26:50 | 0:26:53 | |
You should be giving me away. | 0:26:55 | 0:26:57 | |
You should be walking with me. | 0:26:57 | 0:26:59 | |
You belong to no-one but yourself, | 0:26:59 | 0:27:02 | |
and you know exactly where you're going. | 0:27:02 | 0:27:05 | |
I think what I have come to understand about Call The Midwife | 0:27:10 | 0:27:14 | |
is that it can be enjoyed on a number of levels. | 0:27:14 | 0:27:17 | |
If you just want to flop down on a Sunday night and look at Trixie's | 0:27:17 | 0:27:21 | |
frocks, and listen to the lovely music and maybe have a glass of wine | 0:27:21 | 0:27:25 | |
and indulge yourself in an escapist treat, you can do that. | 0:27:25 | 0:27:29 | |
Or you can dig right down to the deepest level, where we are telling | 0:27:29 | 0:27:33 | |
stories about the human condition, | 0:27:33 | 0:27:34 | |
and if you want to, you can really engage with that, | 0:27:34 | 0:27:37 | |
not just matters of society or medicine | 0:27:37 | 0:27:39 | |
but matters of human existence, of life and death and birth. | 0:27:39 | 0:27:43 | |
Call The Midwife is set in the early days of the NHS, and my parents were | 0:27:49 | 0:27:54 | |
lucky enough to be able to take advantage of it | 0:27:54 | 0:27:56 | |
when their children were born. | 0:27:56 | 0:27:59 | |
BIG BEN CHIMES | 0:27:59 | 0:28:01 | |
'On July 5th, the new National Health Service starts, | 0:28:01 | 0:28:05 | |
'providing hospital and specialist services, medicines, | 0:28:05 | 0:28:09 | |
'drugs and appliances, care of the teeth and eyes.' | 0:28:09 | 0:28:12 | |
I've come to Swansea to meet the very first child born | 0:28:16 | 0:28:19 | |
on the day the NHS started in July 1948. | 0:28:19 | 0:28:22 | |
Aneira, I just love your name. | 0:28:24 | 0:28:26 | |
-Thank you. -What's the story behind it? | 0:28:26 | 0:28:29 | |
My mother used to relay the story back to me as I was growing up | 0:28:29 | 0:28:34 | |
and all I can remember, as a child, | 0:28:34 | 0:28:36 | |
she used to introduce me as Nye, | 0:28:36 | 0:28:38 | |
"This is Nye, my National Health baby." | 0:28:38 | 0:28:40 | |
She'd had a long, hard labour | 0:28:40 | 0:28:42 | |
and she was about to give birth to me on the night | 0:28:42 | 0:28:46 | |
of 4th July, around midnight, | 0:28:46 | 0:28:49 | |
and the doctor had to be called and the nurse - two nurses were there - | 0:28:49 | 0:28:53 | |
and she said they were watching the clock and she was about to push, | 0:28:53 | 0:28:58 | |
because she was used to hearing the word "push" | 0:28:58 | 0:29:01 | |
on all her other six children, | 0:29:01 | 0:29:03 | |
but all she could hear was, "Hold on, Edna. Hold on." | 0:29:03 | 0:29:06 | |
Because that particular day | 0:29:06 | 0:29:08 | |
was going to be a very big day for Great Britain - | 0:29:08 | 0:29:12 | |
it was the birth of the National Health Service. | 0:29:12 | 0:29:14 | |
So, after midnight, the new National Health Service came into being. | 0:29:14 | 0:29:19 | |
Into fruition, yes. | 0:29:19 | 0:29:20 | |
So... And the man who brought it into Great Britain | 0:29:20 | 0:29:25 | |
for the people of Great Britain, his name was Aneurin Bevan. | 0:29:25 | 0:29:28 | |
Wonderful man. And hence the name. | 0:29:28 | 0:29:31 | |
So the doctors asked my mother, "Please, can we name her Aneira?" | 0:29:31 | 0:29:36 | |
After the founder. And she liked the name. | 0:29:36 | 0:29:39 | |
-And the actual medics and the doctors... -Yes, named me. | 0:29:39 | 0:29:42 | |
Aneurin Bevan knew all about ill-health and poverty. | 0:29:46 | 0:29:49 | |
Born in the Welsh Valleys, | 0:29:51 | 0:29:53 | |
like so many, he left school at 13 to work in the mines. | 0:29:53 | 0:29:57 | |
The scenes he witnessed inspired him | 0:29:59 | 0:30:02 | |
to create a new health care system for all. | 0:30:02 | 0:30:05 | |
But not everyone was in favour. | 0:30:05 | 0:30:07 | |
Many doctors at the time, | 0:30:08 | 0:30:10 | |
represented by the British Medical Association, | 0:30:10 | 0:30:12 | |
feared for their livelihoods and opposed State control. | 0:30:12 | 0:30:16 | |
But Bevan outmanoeuvred them, | 0:30:18 | 0:30:20 | |
first, conceding that they could still see some patients privately. | 0:30:20 | 0:30:24 | |
At the same time, he encouraged the public | 0:30:24 | 0:30:27 | |
to preregister for the new service, | 0:30:27 | 0:30:29 | |
which they did in their millions. | 0:30:29 | 0:30:31 | |
Faced with the enormous popularity of the new NHS, | 0:30:32 | 0:30:36 | |
the BMA had no option but to fall in line. | 0:30:36 | 0:30:39 | |
-Look at that. -Yeah. The original. | 0:30:41 | 0:30:44 | |
5th July 1948. | 0:30:44 | 0:30:46 | |
-Yeah. -And this is you. | 0:30:46 | 0:30:48 | |
That's what they named me, Aneira. | 0:30:48 | 0:30:50 | |
-Yeah. -It's the feminine form of Aneurin, after Aneurin Bevan. | 0:30:50 | 0:30:54 | |
And this is the first birth certificate | 0:30:54 | 0:30:57 | |
-of the brand-new NHS. -Yes, the NHS. | 0:30:57 | 0:30:59 | |
If I had been born one minute before midnight, | 0:30:59 | 0:31:02 | |
they'd have had to pay one shilling and sixpence. | 0:31:02 | 0:31:05 | |
-Really? -Yes. | 0:31:05 | 0:31:06 | |
And of course, after, it was free. | 0:31:06 | 0:31:08 | |
-Yes. -And one shilling and sixpence in those days | 0:31:08 | 0:31:11 | |
must have been a lot of money, because we were seven children. | 0:31:11 | 0:31:15 | |
-That's right. -Dad was a miner, not earning very much money, | 0:31:15 | 0:31:18 | |
so that one shilling and sixpence could have meant food... | 0:31:18 | 0:31:21 | |
extra food for one day. | 0:31:21 | 0:31:23 | |
Lips pinking up and the baby's still breathing. | 0:31:23 | 0:31:26 | |
Oh, thank God. | 0:31:26 | 0:31:28 | |
I'm all for giving medals to the gentleman upstairs, sir, | 0:31:28 | 0:31:30 | |
but in this case, credit should go to the National Health. | 0:31:30 | 0:31:33 | |
Ten years ago, we would have had none of this. | 0:31:33 | 0:31:35 | |
No obstetric flying squad, no ambulance and no chance. | 0:31:35 | 0:31:39 | |
-Placenta's complete, sir. -Stabilising. | 0:31:39 | 0:31:41 | |
She'll need a further transfusion but we can do that here. | 0:31:41 | 0:31:44 | |
Right, let's take this little chap, get him sorted out. | 0:31:44 | 0:31:47 | |
What was your mother's life like before that era of the NHS? | 0:31:47 | 0:31:52 | |
Was there a big difference for her? | 0:31:52 | 0:31:54 | |
The health care then was for the privileged few, | 0:31:54 | 0:31:56 | |
so they couldn't afford health care. | 0:31:56 | 0:31:59 | |
My mother remembers her father being... | 0:31:59 | 0:32:01 | |
remembers looking out through the parlour window | 0:32:01 | 0:32:03 | |
and she'd seen her father being carried home from the mines | 0:32:03 | 0:32:06 | |
by two men. He had broken his leg in three places. | 0:32:06 | 0:32:09 | |
And she said they brought him in | 0:32:09 | 0:32:11 | |
and they laid him down on the kitchen table. | 0:32:11 | 0:32:13 | |
The doctor had to be called and the doctor said to all the children, | 0:32:13 | 0:32:17 | |
"I need your help to hold your father down," and the two men | 0:32:17 | 0:32:21 | |
and the doctor had to operate on his leg without anaesthetic. | 0:32:21 | 0:32:24 | |
-What?! -They must have had ether. And she lived until she was 95 | 0:32:24 | 0:32:30 | |
and she always used to say, and put her hands to her ear, | 0:32:30 | 0:32:33 | |
she used to say, "Darling, I can hear those screams today." | 0:32:33 | 0:32:36 | |
And how old was she when she heard those screams? | 0:32:36 | 0:32:38 | |
-About 13. -Oh, what an experience! | 0:32:38 | 0:32:40 | |
Yes, the other children were small. | 0:32:40 | 0:32:42 | |
-Yeah. -What a terrible experience. | 0:32:42 | 0:32:44 | |
They couldn't pay the doctor. | 0:32:44 | 0:32:46 | |
There was no money to pay the doctor and the only thing they could do was | 0:32:46 | 0:32:50 | |
sell the family piano, and that piano was everything, | 0:32:50 | 0:32:53 | |
because Mum was a pianist, so she remembers the children crying | 0:32:53 | 0:32:57 | |
as the piano was being carried out to sell. | 0:32:57 | 0:33:00 | |
-A sad story. -It is, isn't it? -Sad story. -Yeah. | 0:33:00 | 0:33:03 | |
Oh, this is an amazing picture. | 0:33:03 | 0:33:05 | |
-It is, isn't it? -Who is this? | 0:33:05 | 0:33:07 | |
Well, this would be my great-grandmother. | 0:33:07 | 0:33:10 | |
Her name was Hannah. | 0:33:10 | 0:33:11 | |
And she was the local midwife. | 0:33:11 | 0:33:14 | |
She was the lady they used to send for | 0:33:14 | 0:33:16 | |
when mothers were about to give birth. | 0:33:16 | 0:33:18 | |
I'd love to close my eyes and go back in time | 0:33:18 | 0:33:21 | |
-and have seen what she was like. -When was this? | 0:33:21 | 0:33:23 | |
What year was this, roughly? | 0:33:23 | 0:33:25 | |
-I think it must have been the early 1900s or the late 1800s. -Wow! | 0:33:25 | 0:33:29 | |
-Yeah. -But she's not a professional at this time? | 0:33:29 | 0:33:32 | |
-No. -She's just a local person trusted by everybody else. | 0:33:32 | 0:33:35 | |
Yeah, trusted, yeah. Because she'd had ten of her own children, | 0:33:35 | 0:33:39 | |
I suppose. | 0:33:39 | 0:33:40 | |
So, Aneira, as the great National Health baby... | 0:33:40 | 0:33:44 | |
..if you could describe the NHS in one word, what word would that be? | 0:33:46 | 0:33:52 | |
Revolutionary. | 0:33:54 | 0:33:56 | |
And in the 1960s, | 0:34:00 | 0:34:02 | |
the East End of London was going through a social revolution. | 0:34:02 | 0:34:05 | |
In recent series of Call The Midwife, | 0:34:07 | 0:34:09 | |
we've been really keen to reflect the changing face of the East End, | 0:34:09 | 0:34:12 | |
which, in turn, means reflecting the changing face of Britain. | 0:34:12 | 0:34:15 | |
In the last episode of series five, | 0:34:15 | 0:34:17 | |
Barbara went to the home of a woman called Tripti Valluk, | 0:34:17 | 0:34:20 | |
who is a recent arrival in the country. | 0:34:20 | 0:34:23 | |
She is from the Sylhet area of Bangladesh and she's giving birth | 0:34:23 | 0:34:26 | |
to her first baby in quite sort of grubby | 0:34:26 | 0:34:28 | |
and difficult domestic circumstances. | 0:34:28 | 0:34:30 | |
That's absolutely perfect, Tripti. | 0:34:30 | 0:34:33 | |
-Khub bhalo. -Dhonnobad. | 0:34:33 | 0:34:36 | |
There's no need to thank me, Muna. It's all part of the job. | 0:34:36 | 0:34:39 | |
Now, let's get you on the bed and see if we can have a listen to baby. | 0:34:39 | 0:34:43 | |
Mr Valluk, I beg your pardon, are you working shifts again? | 0:34:44 | 0:34:48 | |
I'm sorry, but... | 0:34:50 | 0:34:52 | |
-..he will not look. -It's all right. | 0:34:53 | 0:34:55 | |
Once I delivered a baby with the father fast asleep beside his wife | 0:34:55 | 0:35:00 | |
but he was drunk, and Mr Valluk just looks tired. | 0:35:00 | 0:35:03 | |
It's not the home we left but it is a new home. | 0:35:05 | 0:35:09 | |
That is why I want the baby born here, in my bed. | 0:35:10 | 0:35:14 | |
And if that is what you want, that is what you shall have. | 0:35:14 | 0:35:17 | |
It's a very beautiful birth | 0:35:17 | 0:35:19 | |
and there is a very beautiful aftermath to the birth. | 0:35:19 | 0:35:21 | |
We show her being bathed by candlelight because the family | 0:35:21 | 0:35:24 | |
have run out of money for the gas meter. | 0:35:24 | 0:35:26 | |
But I think that, with the arrival of that little girl, | 0:35:26 | 0:35:28 | |
we're showing something about the birth of the Asian population | 0:35:28 | 0:35:31 | |
in our country. | 0:35:31 | 0:35:32 | |
I think this young lady has been here before. | 0:35:32 | 0:35:36 | |
Maybe not in this continent... | 0:35:37 | 0:35:40 | |
maybe not in weather like this, | 0:35:40 | 0:35:42 | |
but she's been here. | 0:35:42 | 0:35:44 | |
And it did occur to me that a really important part | 0:35:47 | 0:35:50 | |
of British social history was the rise of mixed-race marriage | 0:35:50 | 0:35:54 | |
and so the Antoines have a father from Jamaica | 0:35:54 | 0:35:57 | |
and a mother who is white and from the East End. | 0:35:57 | 0:36:00 | |
I was at school with Kerry Antoine's sister, June. | 0:36:00 | 0:36:03 | |
She came into assembly with her eyes bright red from crying one day, | 0:36:03 | 0:36:07 | |
wouldn't say why. | 0:36:07 | 0:36:08 | |
It was my mum who told me Kerry was going to marry a black man. | 0:36:08 | 0:36:11 | |
No-one can really choose who they fall in love with. | 0:36:11 | 0:36:14 | |
I certainly don't like some of the things I've heard said to those | 0:36:14 | 0:36:17 | |
little Antoine lads at Cubs. | 0:36:17 | 0:36:19 | |
They're only repeating what they've heard at home | 0:36:19 | 0:36:21 | |
but I've clamped down, nonetheless. | 0:36:21 | 0:36:25 | |
CHATTERING | 0:36:25 | 0:36:27 | |
And as we see in these exclusive scenes from our new series, | 0:36:27 | 0:36:31 | |
Nurse Crane is determined to promote integration. | 0:36:31 | 0:36:35 | |
She encourages the Cubs in her charge to welcome and value | 0:36:35 | 0:36:39 | |
every new member of the community. | 0:36:39 | 0:36:41 | |
-Pack, pack, pack! -Pack! -Pack! | 0:36:44 | 0:36:46 | |
Take a seat, boys. | 0:36:46 | 0:36:48 | |
-PARP! -That's quite sufficient, | 0:36:50 | 0:36:53 | |
thank you, Abdul. Now, tonight, | 0:36:53 | 0:36:56 | |
we're going to take it in turns to step to the front | 0:36:56 | 0:36:58 | |
and show all the other Cubs our treasures from home. | 0:36:58 | 0:37:02 | |
It's a chance to practise our public speaking and learn new things. | 0:37:02 | 0:37:06 | |
And we're going to start with Lenny Wesley | 0:37:07 | 0:37:11 | |
and Jerome Antoine talking about something very important. | 0:37:11 | 0:37:15 | |
This is our baby brother, Delamere. | 0:37:18 | 0:37:20 | |
He was born last week and he has pale-brown skin, like us, | 0:37:20 | 0:37:24 | |
because our mum is from Poplar and our dad is from Jamaica. | 0:37:24 | 0:37:28 | |
Everybody looks a bit like their mum and a bit like their dad. | 0:37:28 | 0:37:32 | |
You might have blue eyes like one of your parents, | 0:37:32 | 0:37:34 | |
and blond or ginger hair like the other one. | 0:37:34 | 0:37:37 | |
Mostly, we think Delamere looks like us. | 0:37:37 | 0:37:40 | |
You can come a bit closer if you like. | 0:37:40 | 0:37:43 | |
And if you're lucky, he might squeeze your finger. | 0:37:43 | 0:37:46 | |
There's something very special about newborn babies. | 0:37:50 | 0:37:53 | |
They're so tiny and so fragile | 0:37:53 | 0:37:55 | |
and every time we have a baby on the set, | 0:37:55 | 0:37:57 | |
it becomes a little bit like a wildlife movie, everybody whispers. | 0:37:57 | 0:38:01 | |
And even quite hardened cameramen become very tender and very quiet in | 0:38:01 | 0:38:04 | |
their movements and I must confess, I often try and create a scenario | 0:38:04 | 0:38:08 | |
whereby it is imperative that the executive producer | 0:38:08 | 0:38:11 | |
gets to hold the baby as part of her morning's work. | 0:38:11 | 0:38:14 | |
And those are very good days in the office. | 0:38:14 | 0:38:16 | |
-Do you want to hold him? -I'd love to. -There we go. | 0:38:16 | 0:38:20 | |
Hello. | 0:38:20 | 0:38:22 | |
What I'd like to do, I was just saying to Terri, | 0:38:23 | 0:38:26 | |
I'd like to have a party and invite all of the babies we've ever had, | 0:38:26 | 0:38:29 | |
because I think it's more than 90 children. | 0:38:29 | 0:38:31 | |
-Yeah. -Oh, it would, wouldn't it? | 0:38:31 | 0:38:33 | |
-It would be so nice. -And some of them would be about six. | 0:38:33 | 0:38:36 | |
And you, young man, you'll be one of the youngest. | 0:38:36 | 0:38:40 | |
You will. Look at that. | 0:38:40 | 0:38:42 | |
I don't think birth has ever been depicted on the literary page | 0:38:42 | 0:38:46 | |
with as much attention to detail as it was by Jennifer Worth. | 0:38:46 | 0:38:49 | |
I was really keen to keep this with the television series. | 0:38:49 | 0:38:52 | |
We go into that intimate space with a great deal of scientific detail | 0:38:52 | 0:38:56 | |
and we've been hugely helped in that | 0:38:56 | 0:38:58 | |
by our consultant midwife Terri Coates. | 0:38:58 | 0:39:01 | |
So, Terri, this is our clinical room. | 0:39:01 | 0:39:04 | |
It is, and I've come here to put this little one down | 0:39:04 | 0:39:08 | |
and wrap her up again. | 0:39:08 | 0:39:10 | |
Aren't they incredible, these models? | 0:39:10 | 0:39:12 | |
They are. Do you know, I'm just always amazed at how beautiful | 0:39:12 | 0:39:16 | |
these babies are. But they are prosthetics. | 0:39:16 | 0:39:19 | |
Yeah, some people can be quite taken aback by them... | 0:39:19 | 0:39:23 | |
-They can. -Because they are so... -They're so realistic. -So lifelike. | 0:39:23 | 0:39:26 | |
So lifelike. And they've got everything, | 0:39:26 | 0:39:28 | |
down to their little fingers, just spot-on. | 0:39:28 | 0:39:31 | |
What always gets me about your mastery of all the instruments | 0:39:31 | 0:39:34 | |
that we have to use is, you don't just have to know what you know as a | 0:39:34 | 0:39:37 | |
midwife nowadays, but you have to go back in time to use the instruments | 0:39:37 | 0:39:41 | |
that they used in the '50s and '60s. | 0:39:41 | 0:39:43 | |
But do you know what? An awful lot of them haven't changed. | 0:39:43 | 0:39:46 | |
For basic midwifery, the instruments haven't really changed. | 0:39:46 | 0:39:48 | |
One thing that has changed, of course, | 0:39:48 | 0:39:50 | |
-is the amazing prosthetics... -Yeah. | 0:39:50 | 0:39:52 | |
..that we've developed over the last few years | 0:39:52 | 0:39:54 | |
and the cords that go with the prosthetic dolls. | 0:39:54 | 0:39:57 | |
Yes, the umbilicals, one of our specialties. | 0:39:57 | 0:40:00 | |
They really make the birth so much more real. | 0:40:00 | 0:40:04 | |
You can attach these to the baby's abdomen | 0:40:04 | 0:40:06 | |
and it gives them an amazingly realistic result. | 0:40:06 | 0:40:10 | |
Yes! | 0:40:10 | 0:40:11 | |
WOMAN GASPS | 0:40:11 | 0:40:14 | |
I love it when it works, because you once said to me, | 0:40:17 | 0:40:20 | |
"That's when I get moved." | 0:40:20 | 0:40:22 | |
I watched you. I saw you crying once and I was surprised. | 0:40:22 | 0:40:24 | |
-Just once? -Because it's pretend! | 0:40:24 | 0:40:27 | |
I said, "But you midwife real babies." | 0:40:27 | 0:40:30 | |
And I remembered you saying to me, you know, | 0:40:30 | 0:40:33 | |
-"It's because looks right." -Yes. | 0:40:33 | 0:40:35 | |
And is that what you aim for? As long as it looks right enough. | 0:40:35 | 0:40:38 | |
If it looks right, it feels right | 0:40:38 | 0:40:40 | |
and that's the point at which I'm moved. | 0:40:40 | 0:40:42 | |
This is one of those things which is a timeless... | 0:40:48 | 0:40:50 | |
It is, and that's actually mine. | 0:40:50 | 0:40:52 | |
-That's been with me since I was a student midwife. -Oh! | 0:40:52 | 0:40:56 | |
I'm sure you've see me use that before. | 0:40:56 | 0:40:58 | |
-But this is actually yours? -That's mine with my name on, yeah. | 0:40:58 | 0:41:01 | |
-And this is a peen-ard. -Pinnard. -Pinnard. | 0:41:01 | 0:41:04 | |
-Sorry. Let's get the phraseology right. -Yeah. | 0:41:04 | 0:41:07 | |
Yes. And that's to listen to... | 0:41:07 | 0:41:08 | |
Because, of course, back then, | 0:41:08 | 0:41:11 | |
we didn't have the scans that we have now. | 0:41:11 | 0:41:13 | |
No, in 1962, it would have been perfectly normal to use X-rays. | 0:41:13 | 0:41:16 | |
We used them far more then than we do now. | 0:41:16 | 0:41:19 | |
Wow. Was that safe, by modern standards? | 0:41:19 | 0:41:21 | |
It was safe by the standards of 1962, yes. | 0:41:21 | 0:41:24 | |
And we still use these now. We use these to locate the foetal heart, | 0:41:24 | 0:41:28 | |
and then use the electronic devices now, we have the sonic aids. | 0:41:28 | 0:41:32 | |
-Yeah. -And we use these to listen over the baby's back. | 0:41:32 | 0:41:36 | |
So if we're using it on a prosthetic abdomen, | 0:41:36 | 0:41:39 | |
the midwife will still have to palpate | 0:41:39 | 0:41:42 | |
to find where the foetal heart is | 0:41:42 | 0:41:45 | |
and she will use it sort of lined up - | 0:41:45 | 0:41:48 | |
so imagine that the baby's head was round about here, | 0:41:48 | 0:41:51 | |
the baby's bottom would be here and the back would be there, | 0:41:51 | 0:41:55 | |
so you would listen round about there. | 0:41:55 | 0:41:56 | |
Absolutely beautiful. | 0:41:59 | 0:42:01 | |
You say that as if you've never heard it before. | 0:42:01 | 0:42:04 | |
I haven't for a while. I've been mainly on district nursing duty. | 0:42:04 | 0:42:09 | |
Now, in the early '60s, you had revolutions beginning to happen... | 0:42:10 | 0:42:16 | |
Um, I was speaking to a midwife only last week | 0:42:16 | 0:42:21 | |
about the advent of the Pill, | 0:42:21 | 0:42:23 | |
the advent of the '60s - you had everything changing. | 0:42:23 | 0:42:28 | |
How big an effect | 0:42:28 | 0:42:30 | |
on you and your work was the advent of the pill? | 0:42:30 | 0:42:34 | |
The advent of the pill was enormous, | 0:42:34 | 0:42:36 | |
not specifically for midwifes but for women in general. | 0:42:36 | 0:42:39 | |
The pill was enormous | 0:42:39 | 0:42:41 | |
and it gave women control of their fertility, | 0:42:41 | 0:42:44 | |
which really gives them control of their lives | 0:42:44 | 0:42:47 | |
and allowed them to space their families. | 0:42:47 | 0:42:49 | |
The first British trials of the pill took place | 0:42:52 | 0:42:54 | |
at the family planning clinic in Birmingham in 1960. | 0:42:54 | 0:42:58 | |
It proved to be extremely popular... | 0:42:59 | 0:43:02 | |
and highly controversial. | 0:43:02 | 0:43:04 | |
So, the contraceptive pill. | 0:43:07 | 0:43:10 | |
Licensed for distribution within weeks. | 0:43:10 | 0:43:14 | |
It's been talked about for so long, it's hardly a surprise. | 0:43:14 | 0:43:17 | |
No. | 0:43:17 | 0:43:19 | |
But it is a challenge. | 0:43:19 | 0:43:21 | |
Of course it's a challenge, Sister. | 0:43:21 | 0:43:23 | |
Antibiotics were a challenge once. | 0:43:23 | 0:43:26 | |
Antibiotics were also a miracle. | 0:43:26 | 0:43:28 | |
And you think the contraceptive pill isn't? | 0:43:28 | 0:43:31 | |
It's a miracle with moral implications, Dr Turner. | 0:43:33 | 0:43:36 | |
Take-up was fast. | 0:43:36 | 0:43:38 | |
By 1969, a million women were taking it. | 0:43:38 | 0:43:42 | |
Jennifer Worth wrote, | 0:43:42 | 0:43:44 | |
"As soon as they could take contraception into their own hands, | 0:43:44 | 0:43:47 | |
"they did." | 0:43:47 | 0:43:48 | |
Even Sister Julienne is coming to terms with this new reality - | 0:43:48 | 0:43:52 | |
as we see in this clip from our new series. | 0:43:52 | 0:43:54 | |
I was told today that the family contraceptive clinics were launching | 0:43:56 | 0:44:01 | |
district clinics in an attempt to cut down waiting lists. | 0:44:01 | 0:44:04 | |
I hope there's going to be one in our clinic. | 0:44:04 | 0:44:06 | |
We're going to get one in our community centre. | 0:44:06 | 0:44:08 | |
On Tuesday afternoons, in the small room at the back. | 0:44:08 | 0:44:12 | |
It's been suggested that patients use the side door. | 0:44:12 | 0:44:15 | |
But the unmarried mothers use the side door. | 0:44:15 | 0:44:18 | |
Why can't everyone come in at the front? | 0:44:18 | 0:44:21 | |
They are just women, not criminals. | 0:44:21 | 0:44:23 | |
I don't think you need to use quite such strong terms, Nurse Dyer. | 0:44:23 | 0:44:26 | |
I'm sorry, Sister. | 0:44:26 | 0:44:27 | |
But everyone coming to that clinic is married or about to be, | 0:44:27 | 0:44:30 | |
those are the rules. | 0:44:30 | 0:44:32 | |
So why should they be made to feel ashamed or even embarrassed? | 0:44:32 | 0:44:35 | |
Men have been buying contraception from the barber's for years. | 0:44:35 | 0:44:38 | |
Apparently. A short back and sides and then something for the weekend. | 0:44:38 | 0:44:41 | |
Women should be able to take care of their health | 0:44:41 | 0:44:44 | |
in exactly the same way. | 0:44:44 | 0:44:45 | |
"I'll have a perm and the contraceptive pill." | 0:44:45 | 0:44:48 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:44:48 | 0:44:49 | |
I shall be assisting the doctor for the first few weeks, | 0:44:49 | 0:44:53 | |
so I will have the chance to make up my own opinion on such matters. | 0:44:53 | 0:44:58 | |
As we entered the 1960s, faith in new medical advancements was high. | 0:45:04 | 0:45:08 | |
Drugs were tackling the old killers - diphtheria, TB, polio - | 0:45:09 | 0:45:14 | |
there seemed to be a wonder drug for every ill. | 0:45:14 | 0:45:17 | |
But the world was about to learn of the terrible side-effects | 0:45:19 | 0:45:22 | |
caused by one of them - thalidomide. | 0:45:22 | 0:45:25 | |
Rosaleen Moriarty-Simmonds was one of the thousands of people affected by the drug. | 0:45:27 | 0:45:32 | |
My mum had not long turned 18. | 0:45:33 | 0:45:36 | |
She was 17 when I was conceived | 0:45:36 | 0:45:39 | |
and two months into...after her 18th birthday when I was born. | 0:45:39 | 0:45:44 | |
My mum had horrific morning sickness. | 0:45:45 | 0:45:49 | |
Um, she was only 17, | 0:45:49 | 0:45:52 | |
pregnant out of wedlock and I guess the whole lot was too much | 0:45:52 | 0:45:58 | |
for her to handle and Thalidomide is a sleeping tablet. | 0:45:58 | 0:46:02 | |
You go along to a doctor, she explained she was struggling, | 0:46:02 | 0:46:06 | |
I suppose, and not sleeping, and she was prescribed Thalidomide, | 0:46:06 | 0:46:10 | |
which, at the time, nobody knew, of course, what the consequences would be. | 0:46:10 | 0:46:13 | |
One as necessary, just as you've been taking them. | 0:46:16 | 0:46:19 | |
I'll tell you what, every woman in the family way | 0:46:19 | 0:46:21 | |
is going to be banging your doors down for these. | 0:46:21 | 0:46:24 | |
What's that magic stuff in them again? | 0:46:24 | 0:46:26 | |
The tablets are known as Distaval. | 0:46:26 | 0:46:28 | |
The magic ingredient is called Thalidomide. | 0:46:28 | 0:46:30 | |
Well, better get some more in - I'm going to spread the word. | 0:46:31 | 0:46:35 | |
Shall we? | 0:46:35 | 0:46:36 | |
I was a medical student in Cardiff in the early '60s. | 0:46:36 | 0:46:40 | |
Rosaleen's mother was allocated to me | 0:46:40 | 0:46:42 | |
and she was only 18 years old at the time | 0:46:42 | 0:46:46 | |
and very ill with pre-eclamptic toxaemia. | 0:46:46 | 0:46:50 | |
We went through the day | 0:46:50 | 0:46:53 | |
and, in the evening, I think it was Sunday evening, I have that feeling, | 0:46:53 | 0:46:57 | |
the senior sister said, "I will examine her now. | 0:46:57 | 0:47:01 | |
"Probably there is no progress and we'll make her comfortable for the night." | 0:47:01 | 0:47:06 | |
And she examined her and she said, suddenly, "Dear, scrub! She's fully dilated!" | 0:47:08 | 0:47:14 | |
I felt for the umbilical cord, | 0:47:14 | 0:47:16 | |
which was not present, around her neck, | 0:47:16 | 0:47:18 | |
but it didn't... | 0:47:18 | 0:47:21 | |
The anatomy didn't feel right and, when I was meditating on this, | 0:47:21 | 0:47:26 | |
Sister said, "Ease the anterior shoulder, dear." | 0:47:26 | 0:47:30 | |
I said, "She hasn't got one." | 0:47:30 | 0:47:31 | |
And, with which, baby appeared. | 0:47:31 | 0:47:34 | |
Announcing her very healthy and vigorous, | 0:47:35 | 0:47:39 | |
but with malformations that caused everybody... | 0:47:39 | 0:47:44 | |
For an instant, there was such a silence. | 0:47:44 | 0:47:46 | |
-Baby's a bit chilly, Rhoda. -Ah. | 0:47:48 | 0:47:51 | |
I'm going to pop to the nursery with her | 0:47:51 | 0:47:52 | |
and just put her under the heat lamp for a minute or two. | 0:47:52 | 0:47:55 | |
I don't think this particular problem had been observed, | 0:47:55 | 0:47:58 | |
certainly in Cardiff, I don't think so, | 0:47:58 | 0:48:00 | |
from what I picked up afterwards. | 0:48:00 | 0:48:02 | |
Has Rhoda Mullucks delivered? | 0:48:03 | 0:48:05 | |
A little girl. | 0:48:05 | 0:48:06 | |
I saw Mrs Moriarty in two or three days. | 0:48:09 | 0:48:12 | |
She was wonderful, instant bonding, you know, and no... | 0:48:12 | 0:48:15 | |
Wonderful, really. She said to me, | 0:48:18 | 0:48:21 | |
"I shall need to give her a very pretty name," she said, | 0:48:21 | 0:48:23 | |
"and I'm going to call her Rosaleen." | 0:48:23 | 0:48:25 | |
Oh, love. | 0:48:38 | 0:48:39 | |
SHE SNIFFS | 0:48:41 | 0:48:43 | |
What a mess. | 0:48:43 | 0:48:44 | |
What a mess, eh? | 0:48:48 | 0:48:50 | |
SHE SNIFFS | 0:48:52 | 0:48:54 | |
We'll sort something out. | 0:48:56 | 0:48:58 | |
I promise. | 0:49:00 | 0:49:01 | |
Because you're mine. | 0:49:03 | 0:49:04 | |
Mine. | 0:49:06 | 0:49:07 | |
And I'm not bailing out on you. | 0:49:08 | 0:49:10 | |
So one of the nurses just sort of took me to her, | 0:49:13 | 0:49:16 | |
completely wrapped up with just my face showing, and when she did sort | 0:49:16 | 0:49:20 | |
of unwrap everything, I don't know if she was even aware that she'd looked at my limbs, | 0:49:20 | 0:49:24 | |
she just looked at my face and said, | 0:49:24 | 0:49:26 | |
"She's beautiful, she's mine and always will be." | 0:49:26 | 0:49:29 | |
I've always been very interested in the notion of families with a | 0:49:30 | 0:49:33 | |
disabled child at their heart because, in 1970, | 0:49:33 | 0:49:36 | |
I became the elder sister to a little boy | 0:49:36 | 0:49:38 | |
who was born with very severe disabilities - | 0:49:38 | 0:49:41 | |
that's my brother, David. | 0:49:41 | 0:49:42 | |
Although I was only seven years older than him, | 0:49:42 | 0:49:45 | |
I was seven years older than him | 0:49:45 | 0:49:47 | |
and I very much remember the impact this had on my parents. | 0:49:47 | 0:49:50 | |
They, like the parents of the Thalidomide children, | 0:49:50 | 0:49:52 | |
were the first generation to raise their disabled children | 0:49:52 | 0:49:56 | |
in a home environment without necessarily having the support | 0:49:56 | 0:49:59 | |
from society that they needed. | 0:49:59 | 0:50:01 | |
I was one of the about 45% of the Thalidomide-impaired babies | 0:50:01 | 0:50:07 | |
that was kept, loved and nurtured. | 0:50:07 | 0:50:11 | |
Sadly, a lot more were abandoned. | 0:50:11 | 0:50:14 | |
My parents, I think, | 0:50:14 | 0:50:16 | |
were actually very brave because they did go on to have more children, | 0:50:16 | 0:50:19 | |
even though the fact that I was the eldest and clearly born disabled, | 0:50:19 | 0:50:23 | |
and they still didn't know what the cause of it was until my mum... | 0:50:23 | 0:50:28 | |
less than 12 months later, was pregnant with my sister, Deborah, who... | 0:50:28 | 0:50:34 | |
Actually, there's only 16 months between us and she was in hospital | 0:50:34 | 0:50:39 | |
under a professor because of, of course, the situation with my birth, | 0:50:39 | 0:50:45 | |
and he brought the Lancet, the medical paper, | 0:50:45 | 0:50:49 | |
along and in it was a letter from another doctor saying that | 0:50:49 | 0:50:54 | |
there'd been an influx of babies born with similar impairments to mine | 0:50:54 | 0:50:59 | |
and they believed that it was possibly the drug Thalidomide. | 0:50:59 | 0:51:02 | |
It was this letter written by Australian medic William McBride | 0:51:05 | 0:51:09 | |
that alerted doctors that Thalidomide had caused birth defects | 0:51:09 | 0:51:12 | |
to over 10,000 children worldwide. | 0:51:12 | 0:51:15 | |
Deformed babies have been born in our district. | 0:51:18 | 0:51:21 | |
We need to speak to someone... | 0:51:23 | 0:51:24 | |
..and then we need to act. | 0:51:26 | 0:51:28 | |
Distival was withdrawn in 1961. | 0:51:28 | 0:51:31 | |
When I was researching the Thalidomide story, | 0:51:31 | 0:51:34 | |
I was really struck by how many people were touched by this scandal, | 0:51:34 | 0:51:38 | |
by that drug, other than the parents themselves and the babies. | 0:51:38 | 0:51:41 | |
The caregivers were deeply affected and doctors, obviously, | 0:51:41 | 0:51:45 | |
such as Dr Turner. | 0:51:45 | 0:51:47 | |
I was once at a literary festival and a lady came up to me and said quite quietly, | 0:51:47 | 0:51:51 | |
"I was a nursing sister in a cottage hospital when the news | 0:51:51 | 0:51:54 | |
"about Thalidomide broke," and she said, "I so remember driving round, | 0:51:54 | 0:51:58 | |
"knocking on doors, trying to get those tablets back from expectant mothers." | 0:51:58 | 0:52:03 | |
-Mr Tunicliffe? -Yes. | 0:52:03 | 0:52:04 | |
May I speak to your wife? | 0:52:04 | 0:52:06 | |
It's regarding a problem with her prescription medication. | 0:52:06 | 0:52:09 | |
Mrs Michaels? | 0:52:16 | 0:52:17 | |
I'd wanted to cover the story of Thalidomide for quite a long time. | 0:52:24 | 0:52:27 | |
When the idea first came into my head, I think we were only on about series two. | 0:52:27 | 0:52:31 | |
It's such an intrinsic part of medical history and so important | 0:52:31 | 0:52:35 | |
to the history of disabled people in our society, but I realised | 0:52:35 | 0:52:38 | |
that we would have to wait until series five, if we got that far, | 0:52:38 | 0:52:42 | |
because it was only in December of 1961 that it was made publicly clear | 0:52:42 | 0:52:47 | |
the damage that the drug was causing. | 0:52:47 | 0:52:48 | |
Prior to that, babies were being born with terrible anomalies, | 0:52:48 | 0:52:52 | |
but the dots weren't being joined up and people didn't realise. | 0:52:52 | 0:52:55 | |
So we knew that it would have to be series five, | 0:52:55 | 0:52:57 | |
which would be set in 1961. | 0:52:57 | 0:53:00 | |
The way it was portrayed in Call The Midwife was exceptional, | 0:53:00 | 0:53:05 | |
and it has educated and got to a lot more people than even a documentary | 0:53:05 | 0:53:12 | |
or a newspaper article would. | 0:53:12 | 0:53:13 | |
Thank you. | 0:53:14 | 0:53:16 | |
One of the things that I was very struck by as the sibling of a child with disabilities | 0:53:28 | 0:53:31 | |
was how poor educational provision was in the '60s and even into | 0:53:31 | 0:53:35 | |
the 1970s for children with special needs. | 0:53:35 | 0:53:38 | |
And talking to my Thalidomide friends and the people who help us | 0:53:38 | 0:53:42 | |
with research, this was a subject that came up again and again | 0:53:42 | 0:53:45 | |
that once the children who were reared by their parents | 0:53:45 | 0:53:48 | |
and weren't brought up in institutions were no longer babies, | 0:53:48 | 0:53:52 | |
the provision was not there for them that other children had. | 0:53:52 | 0:53:55 | |
She's only 18 months! | 0:53:55 | 0:53:56 | |
I was just trying to put her name down for when she's three, | 0:53:56 | 0:53:59 | |
like I put Belinda's name down and Perry's. | 0:53:59 | 0:54:01 | |
And Mrs Bathgate refused point blank? | 0:54:01 | 0:54:03 | |
She said she couldn't take sick children. | 0:54:03 | 0:54:07 | |
Did you explain to her that Susan isn't ill? | 0:54:07 | 0:54:10 | |
I told Mrs Bathgate to speak to you. | 0:54:10 | 0:54:13 | |
She's going to need an education. | 0:54:13 | 0:54:14 | |
The Thalidomide didn't do anything to her brain. | 0:54:14 | 0:54:17 | |
As far as my parents were concerned, | 0:54:17 | 0:54:19 | |
getting a good education was absolutely paramount. | 0:54:19 | 0:54:22 | |
It was 1970 before disabled people even had a right to an academic education, | 0:54:22 | 0:54:27 | |
so any disabled people that were educated before that | 0:54:27 | 0:54:31 | |
were incredibly lucky, really. | 0:54:31 | 0:54:33 | |
I did get a good education. | 0:54:33 | 0:54:36 | |
I finished off with a degree from Cardiff University. | 0:54:36 | 0:54:40 | |
I think, at the end of the day, | 0:54:40 | 0:54:41 | |
you make of life what you choose to make of life and, as Dr Valerie, | 0:54:41 | 0:54:47 | |
I'm sure, will tell you at some stage, I came out loud - | 0:54:47 | 0:54:50 | |
I'm going out even louder! | 0:54:50 | 0:54:52 | |
Our remit at Call The Midwife is to give a voice to people | 0:54:53 | 0:54:57 | |
who have experienced great and beautiful and terrible things | 0:54:57 | 0:55:02 | |
and never had a voice before. | 0:55:02 | 0:55:05 | |
We are somehow digging up lives that were silent | 0:55:05 | 0:55:08 | |
and we're shining a light on lives that were experienced, | 0:55:08 | 0:55:11 | |
if not in darkness at the time, | 0:55:11 | 0:55:13 | |
that were very quickly sort of vanished into the mists of history | 0:55:13 | 0:55:16 | |
afterwards and I just love that idea that with every year that goes round, | 0:55:16 | 0:55:20 | |
with every episode, that I sit down, | 0:55:20 | 0:55:22 | |
with this kind of blank page and I think, | 0:55:22 | 0:55:24 | |
"Whose story am I going to tell today?" | 0:55:24 | 0:55:26 | |
There will be this little voice or this hand that goes up | 0:55:26 | 0:55:29 | |
in the mists of history and says, "Me, tell my story." | 0:55:29 | 0:55:33 | |
So, when I started out on this journey, | 0:55:38 | 0:55:40 | |
I was very keen to meet some of the real people behind the world of | 0:55:40 | 0:55:46 | |
Call The Midwife and, in doing so, | 0:55:46 | 0:55:48 | |
I wanted to try and maybe tap into some of the reasons | 0:55:48 | 0:55:51 | |
why our programme was such a success. | 0:55:51 | 0:55:53 | |
And I think I've found that but I've found out so much more. | 0:55:55 | 0:55:59 | |
You know, when people talk about Call The Midwife, | 0:56:00 | 0:56:03 | |
that the reason it's successful is it's nostalgic, | 0:56:03 | 0:56:07 | |
it's about the audience looking back in time at something, | 0:56:07 | 0:56:10 | |
some sort of perfect ideal world that never really existed, | 0:56:10 | 0:56:14 | |
but I've never thought that was true. | 0:56:14 | 0:56:17 | |
How can it be nostalgic | 0:56:17 | 0:56:20 | |
to show and depict scenes of such incredible grinding poverty? | 0:56:20 | 0:56:26 | |
Of children living in appalling conditions? | 0:56:26 | 0:56:29 | |
Or a family suffering the agonies of the effects of Thalidomide? | 0:56:29 | 0:56:34 | |
When you apply care in our society, it doesn't just happen by accident. | 0:56:34 | 0:56:40 | |
To care for a baby as soon as it comes into the world, | 0:56:40 | 0:56:43 | |
like the midwife who holds a new child, | 0:56:43 | 0:56:47 | |
or, in a more large organised way, | 0:56:47 | 0:56:49 | |
to create a huge system like the National Health Service - | 0:56:49 | 0:56:52 | |
that can look after people from the cradle to the grave - | 0:56:52 | 0:56:55 | |
that doesn't just happen by default, it has to be built. | 0:56:55 | 0:56:58 | |
Like an architect, you have to build it up into this huge cathedral of care. | 0:56:58 | 0:57:03 | |
But that is done stone by stone by individual people | 0:57:03 | 0:57:06 | |
and that's the way it happened in our country. | 0:57:06 | 0:57:10 | |
It happened by individual men and women | 0:57:10 | 0:57:13 | |
applying their whole lives to the care of others. | 0:57:13 | 0:57:17 | |
What these people I've met have shown me | 0:57:17 | 0:57:20 | |
is that we have all of these wonderful things around us, | 0:57:20 | 0:57:23 | |
the things we take for granted, | 0:57:23 | 0:57:25 | |
because of the contributions of those real people. | 0:57:25 | 0:57:28 | |
I think we should all be very grateful to them | 0:57:28 | 0:57:31 | |
and I am certainly very privileged to have met just a few of them. | 0:57:31 | 0:57:35 | |
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