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We barely recovered from the Rodney King riots two years ago, | 0:00:05 | 0:00:08 | |
and now you and Johnnie are standing in a goddamn pool of gasoline | 0:00:08 | 0:00:11 | |
playing with matches. It's all going to happen again. | 0:00:11 | 0:00:13 | |
It's going to be on you. | 0:00:13 | 0:00:15 | |
Gil, it's me, Bob! | 0:00:15 | 0:00:16 | |
You know who's pushing this, it's Johnnie. | 0:00:16 | 0:00:18 | |
Enjoy your legacy, Bob. | 0:00:18 | 0:00:20 | |
REPORTERS CALL TO ROBERT SHAPIRO | 0:00:25 | 0:00:27 | |
Mr Shapiro. Questioning Mark Fuhrman about the use of the 'n-word'... | 0:00:27 | 0:00:30 | |
-Er... -Is it based on something you know, | 0:00:30 | 0:00:32 | |
-or just your views of the LAPD in general? -Look, I... | 0:00:32 | 0:00:35 | |
Let me just state this. Er... I think that the... | 0:00:36 | 0:00:40 | |
the LAPD is a terrific organisation. | 0:00:40 | 0:00:42 | |
-I think that there's just a few bad apples. -Unbelievable. | 0:00:42 | 0:00:46 | |
REPORTERS CHATTER | 0:00:46 | 0:00:47 | |
Good morning! Love the hair! | 0:00:47 | 0:00:49 | |
Please don't ever mention my hair again. | 0:00:49 | 0:00:51 | |
-Got it. -Ever. | 0:00:51 | 0:00:53 | |
MARCIA SIGHS | 0:00:53 | 0:00:54 | |
-JOHNNIE COCHRAN ON TV: -'And within hours of the killings, | 0:00:55 | 0:00:58 | |
'you had MY client in handcuffs.' | 0:00:58 | 0:01:01 | |
So, what I'm trying to get a sense of is this rush to judgment, | 0:01:02 | 0:01:06 | |
and how, in a few short hours, these detectives closed up shop on | 0:01:06 | 0:01:11 | |
'a complex investigation | 0:01:11 | 0:01:13 | |
'that could've gone any different direction.' | 0:01:13 | 0:01:16 | |
It might sound like Cochran is fishing, | 0:01:16 | 0:01:18 | |
but he understands what we have to do - | 0:01:18 | 0:01:20 | |
present alternative theories that do not include your client. | 0:01:20 | 0:01:24 | |
It's not enough to just plead your client's innocence. | 0:01:24 | 0:01:27 | |
You need to provide a narrative, and not just in the courtroom, | 0:01:27 | 0:01:31 | |
in the world. | 0:01:31 | 0:01:32 | |
Do you feel that you've turned over every possible rock in search for | 0:01:32 | 0:01:37 | |
the real killer in this case before RUSHING... | 0:01:37 | 0:01:40 | |
..to charge my client? | 0:01:41 | 0:01:43 | |
-'I do.' -Look at what the culture's becoming. | 0:01:43 | 0:01:45 | |
The media, people, they want narrative, too, | 0:01:45 | 0:01:48 | |
but they want it to be entertainment, and what's | 0:01:48 | 0:01:51 | |
out in the world osmosis back into that courtroom, sequester be damned. | 0:01:51 | 0:01:56 | |
If there's going to be a media circus, | 0:01:56 | 0:01:59 | |
you better well be the ringmaster! | 0:01:59 | 0:02:01 | |
Yes. | 0:02:06 | 0:02:07 | |
Yes. This could work. | 0:02:07 | 0:02:09 | |
FAX MACHINE BEEPS | 0:02:19 | 0:02:20 | |
HE CHUCKLES | 0:02:22 | 0:02:23 | |
FAX MACHINE WHIRS | 0:02:23 | 0:02:25 | |
'Then tell the court, please,' | 0:02:26 | 0:02:27 | |
why you refused to investigate any other possible suspects! | 0:02:27 | 0:02:31 | |
Objection. | 0:02:31 | 0:02:32 | |
Asked and answered. Argumentative. | 0:02:32 | 0:02:35 | |
-JUDGE LANCE ITO: -Sustained. | 0:02:35 | 0:02:36 | |
Mr Cochrane, please refrain from badgering the witness. | 0:02:36 | 0:02:39 | |
Yes, Your Honour. | 0:02:39 | 0:02:40 | |
Detective Lange... | 0:03:02 | 0:03:03 | |
..is it possible that these...murders could be... | 0:03:05 | 0:03:09 | |
-drug related? -MARCIA CLARK: Objection. | 0:03:09 | 0:03:11 | |
-JUDGE LANCE ITO: -Sustained. You're being a little vague, counsellor. | 0:03:11 | 0:03:14 | |
Detective, have you ever heard of a Colombian necktie? | 0:03:14 | 0:03:18 | |
A what? | 0:03:19 | 0:03:20 | |
No. | 0:03:22 | 0:03:24 | |
Really? | 0:03:24 | 0:03:25 | |
'It's a well-known technique employed by drug gangs.' | 0:03:26 | 0:03:30 | |
They slash a person's throat so viciously... | 0:03:30 | 0:03:34 | |
..they almost remove the victim's head. | 0:03:36 | 0:03:39 | |
-LAUGHTER -Oh, my God! | 0:03:44 | 0:03:47 | |
LAUGHTER AND CLAPPING, ALAN CHUCKLES | 0:03:47 | 0:03:49 | |
Sorry about the Colombian necktie thing. I had never heard of it. | 0:03:54 | 0:03:57 | |
You're kidding me, Tom. | 0:03:57 | 0:03:59 | |
You didn't know that Mezzaluna was a cleverly disguised front | 0:03:59 | 0:04:02 | |
for the gatherings of cocaine kingpins? | 0:04:02 | 0:04:04 | |
That Faye Resnick owed them money on some deal she was mixed up in, | 0:04:04 | 0:04:08 | |
and these Scarfaces decided to scare her by killing Nicole? | 0:04:08 | 0:04:11 | |
How could you not know there's a major drug cartel being run | 0:04:11 | 0:04:14 | |
out of a B- Brentwood eatery right under your nose? | 0:04:14 | 0:04:18 | |
It's just desperate flailing. | 0:04:18 | 0:04:20 | |
If they keep that kind of unsubstantiated bullshit up... | 0:04:20 | 0:04:23 | |
I don't. | 0:04:23 | 0:04:25 | |
Look, it's all stupid, but it lands. I saw the jury. | 0:04:25 | 0:04:29 | |
But there are theories everywhere. | 0:04:29 | 0:04:31 | |
And everyone loves to hear them, talk about them. | 0:04:31 | 0:04:34 | |
So, when the defence comes in with something exotic, it makes the jury | 0:04:34 | 0:04:37 | |
sit up and listen instead of playing tic-tac-toe with themselves. | 0:04:37 | 0:04:40 | |
Or flat out fall asleep. | 0:04:40 | 0:04:42 | |
I mean, we have hard evidence, and they razzle dazzle | 0:04:42 | 0:04:47 | |
a bunch of conspiracy nonsense in the big moments. | 0:04:47 | 0:04:50 | |
We need to make our own big moments that land with the jury. | 0:04:50 | 0:04:53 | |
-That is how we beat the nonsense. Now, can we focus on that? -OK, yeah. | 0:04:53 | 0:04:57 | |
-Sure, we'll see what we can find. -Please. | 0:04:57 | 0:04:59 | |
Thank you. | 0:04:59 | 0:05:01 | |
CHRIS SIGHS | 0:05:01 | 0:05:03 | |
HE CLEARS HIS THROAT | 0:05:03 | 0:05:05 | |
I'm sorry. | 0:05:05 | 0:05:06 | |
-Did I hijack the meeting? -No, no. That's OK. | 0:05:06 | 0:05:10 | |
I liked it. | 0:05:12 | 0:05:14 | |
CHRIS SIGHS | 0:05:20 | 0:05:21 | |
-ROBERT KARDASHIAN: -Johnnie... | 0:05:23 | 0:05:25 | |
Why do you think there hasn't been a realistic theory about who did it? | 0:05:27 | 0:05:31 | |
Or any evidence? | 0:05:31 | 0:05:33 | |
I mean, I know it's what we're saying, but... | 0:05:34 | 0:05:37 | |
I have trouble with the blood in the Bronco. | 0:05:37 | 0:05:40 | |
That Fuhrman or anyone planted all of it - OJ's, Nicole's | 0:05:40 | 0:05:45 | |
and Goldman's? | 0:05:45 | 0:05:47 | |
Bobby. | 0:05:47 | 0:05:49 | |
We don't have the whole police force out there chasing leads. | 0:05:49 | 0:05:52 | |
We got to be patient. | 0:05:52 | 0:05:53 | |
The truth will find us. It always does. | 0:05:53 | 0:05:56 | |
-Yeah? -There's something on the TV. I think you'd better see it. | 0:05:56 | 0:06:00 | |
-Can't you record it? -Johnnie, Barbara is on A Current Affair. | 0:06:00 | 0:06:04 | |
With Patricia. Both of them. | 0:06:04 | 0:06:06 | |
ON TV: 'Patricia, you took Johnnie's name | 0:06:06 | 0:06:08 | |
-'even though he never married you.' -Guys, guys. | 0:06:08 | 0:06:10 | |
'It seemed unfair for our boy, Johnnie Jr, | 0:06:10 | 0:06:13 | |
'not to have his own father's name.' | 0:06:13 | 0:06:15 | |
'Barbara, were you aware of Johnnie's double life?' | 0:06:15 | 0:06:18 | |
'Maybe unconsciously I loved him too much to acknowledge it.' | 0:06:18 | 0:06:23 | |
'He must've been under a lot of pressure, running back | 0:06:23 | 0:06:26 | |
'and forth between two households.' | 0:06:26 | 0:06:28 | |
'Johnnie makes it all look easy. He's the smoothest man in LA.' | 0:06:28 | 0:06:32 | |
'Maybe so, but, Barbara, court records tell us | 0:06:32 | 0:06:36 | |
'that Johnnie assaulted you, on...' | 0:06:36 | 0:06:38 | |
Who the hell's behind this? | 0:06:51 | 0:06:52 | |
It's the DA's office. | 0:06:54 | 0:06:55 | |
It's, er... | 0:06:55 | 0:06:57 | |
It's Shapiro. | 0:06:57 | 0:06:58 | |
JOHNNIE SHIVERS WITH RAGE | 0:06:58 | 0:07:00 | |
FUCK! | 0:07:00 | 0:07:02 | |
There. | 0:07:08 | 0:07:10 | |
That's what's left of Nicole. | 0:07:10 | 0:07:12 | |
Oh. Thank you, Denise. | 0:07:14 | 0:07:16 | |
DOOR OPENS | 0:07:17 | 0:07:18 | |
Are you helping my daddy find the man who hurt my mummy? | 0:07:25 | 0:07:28 | |
Er... | 0:07:28 | 0:07:29 | |
Yeah. Yes, that's right. Erm... | 0:07:31 | 0:07:34 | |
Your daddy's busy working on other things today. | 0:07:35 | 0:07:37 | |
Come on, let's let them get to work, OK? | 0:07:39 | 0:07:41 | |
DOOR CLOSES | 0:07:46 | 0:07:47 | |
Go on, open it. | 0:07:57 | 0:07:59 | |
MARCIA LAUGHS | 0:07:59 | 0:08:01 | |
"Visa card number two, 1989 to 1990." | 0:08:07 | 0:08:10 | |
OK? | 0:08:13 | 0:08:14 | |
I give up. | 0:08:15 | 0:08:17 | |
-Nicole bought the gloves. -Our gloves. | 0:08:17 | 0:08:19 | |
Aris - Isotoner, model number 70263. | 0:08:19 | 0:08:22 | |
In the United States, the only place that sold them | 0:08:22 | 0:08:24 | |
was Bloomingdales in New York. | 0:08:24 | 0:08:26 | |
Of all the 70263s, only 300 pairs were extra large. | 0:08:26 | 0:08:29 | |
Bloomingdales sold 200 of those on December 18th, 1990. | 0:08:29 | 0:08:32 | |
Nicole walked into that store and bought two pairs of OUR GLOVES! | 0:08:32 | 0:08:36 | |
-Holy shit! -What?! -Right?! There we go! | 0:08:36 | 0:08:39 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:08:39 | 0:08:40 | |
Hoo! | 0:08:40 | 0:08:42 | |
This is it. | 0:08:42 | 0:08:43 | |
This is not a story. This is cold, hard proof. | 0:08:43 | 0:08:46 | |
The gloves... | 0:08:48 | 0:08:50 | |
the gloves are our conviction. | 0:08:50 | 0:08:51 | |
What are you doing here? | 0:08:56 | 0:08:58 | |
Waiting for Johnnie. I can't wait to see this. | 0:08:58 | 0:09:02 | |
REPORTERS CALL FOR JOHNNIE | 0:09:02 | 0:09:03 | |
Johnnie, talk to us about this double life of yours. | 0:09:03 | 0:09:06 | |
Did you beat Barbara? Do you beat Dale, Jo... | 0:09:06 | 0:09:08 | |
I am not here to discuss old gossip. | 0:09:08 | 0:09:11 | |
What I care about is this trial, in which there are two dead people | 0:09:11 | 0:09:15 | |
and an innocent man being framed. | 0:09:15 | 0:09:17 | |
You all should be ashamed of yourselves. | 0:09:17 | 0:09:20 | |
Excuse me. Thank you. | 0:09:20 | 0:09:22 | |
-MARCIA GROANS -He's made of goddamn Teflon. | 0:09:23 | 0:09:25 | |
I need a vacation. | 0:09:27 | 0:09:29 | |
Like, now. | 0:09:29 | 0:09:31 | |
What? | 0:09:34 | 0:09:35 | |
-Er... I'm driving out to Oakland this weekend. -Hm. | 0:09:37 | 0:09:41 | |
My best friend - childhood friend - it's his birthday. | 0:09:41 | 0:09:45 | |
It's not a big thing, just getting together at a bar for some | 0:09:45 | 0:09:47 | |
drinks and stay the night, but, erm... | 0:09:47 | 0:09:50 | |
you want to, you know, come along? | 0:09:50 | 0:09:52 | |
The drive up, | 0:09:54 | 0:09:55 | |
it always unwinds me, and, er.. | 0:09:55 | 0:09:58 | |
you know, or not. You're probably busy. | 0:09:58 | 0:10:00 | |
Gordon has the kids this weekend. | 0:10:02 | 0:10:05 | |
You know what? | 0:10:08 | 0:10:10 | |
Hell yes. Yes. Count me in. | 0:10:11 | 0:10:14 | |
-SHE GIGGLES -All right. | 0:10:14 | 0:10:16 | |
HE EXHALES DEEPLY | 0:10:16 | 0:10:17 | |
-Hm. -OK. | 0:10:21 | 0:10:22 | |
Whoa, whoa, whoa. | 0:10:33 | 0:10:34 | |
What do you have on your lapel? | 0:10:34 | 0:10:37 | |
It is a police solidarity pin. | 0:10:37 | 0:10:39 | |
What the hell do you have that on for?! Take that off! | 0:10:39 | 0:10:41 | |
I am trying to vindicate some of the damage that you're doing. | 0:10:41 | 0:10:45 | |
Damage? Damage to what? Your cosy relationship with Garcetti | 0:10:48 | 0:10:51 | |
and the LAPD? | 0:10:51 | 0:10:53 | |
-What is happening? -Bob's lapel. | 0:10:53 | 0:10:55 | |
LAPD solidarity pin. | 0:10:55 | 0:10:57 | |
Well, I hope you got the brains to take it off in front of the cameras. | 0:10:58 | 0:11:02 | |
You are hardly in a position to tell me | 0:11:02 | 0:11:04 | |
what's unacceptable or not on television. | 0:11:04 | 0:11:07 | |
SHAPIRO OPENS BRIEFCASE AND SIGHS | 0:11:09 | 0:11:11 | |
JOHNNIE GROANS | 0:11:14 | 0:11:15 | |
It was Shapiro who planted that story, I know it. | 0:11:15 | 0:11:18 | |
And I'm going to find out how he did it. | 0:11:19 | 0:11:21 | |
-And when I do... -HE CHUCKLES | 0:11:21 | 0:11:23 | |
..there's going to be hell to pay. | 0:11:24 | 0:11:27 | |
-But it was him. -Hm. | 0:11:27 | 0:11:30 | |
So, it was Bob Shapiro who made you live a double life | 0:11:30 | 0:11:32 | |
while you were married with Barbara? | 0:11:32 | 0:11:34 | |
I shut the press right down today, baby. | 0:11:34 | 0:11:37 | |
You'll never hear another word about it. I handled it. | 0:11:37 | 0:11:41 | |
Baby, you knew all that about me when we got married. | 0:11:44 | 0:11:46 | |
Yeah, I knew it, Johnnie. | 0:11:46 | 0:11:48 | |
But my friends didn't. My family didn't. | 0:11:48 | 0:11:52 | |
My pastor didn't, Johnnie! | 0:11:52 | 0:11:54 | |
I'll find out what happened, I'll find out who did this. | 0:11:54 | 0:11:56 | |
Nobody did this! | 0:11:56 | 0:11:57 | |
There is no conspiracy, Johnnie, you cannot fix it! | 0:11:57 | 0:12:00 | |
Unless you have a time machine I don't know anything about. | 0:12:00 | 0:12:02 | |
All your stuff with Barbara, all of it is in court records, Johnnie. | 0:12:03 | 0:12:07 | |
You made the world your stage. | 0:12:09 | 0:12:11 | |
You wanted the attention. | 0:12:12 | 0:12:14 | |
Now you got it. | 0:12:16 | 0:12:17 | |
(Now you got it.) | 0:12:19 | 0:12:21 | |
-Good morning. -Bob. | 0:12:34 | 0:12:36 | |
-Thanks for coming early. -Of course. -Close that door. | 0:12:36 | 0:12:39 | |
SHAPIRO SIGHS | 0:12:41 | 0:12:42 | |
DOOR CLOSES | 0:12:42 | 0:12:43 | |
-What's up? -This discovery from the DA about the glove. | 0:12:43 | 0:12:46 | |
They have receipts of Nicole purchasing them. Did you read this? | 0:12:46 | 0:12:49 | |
Yeah, yeah, but they're not necessarily THE gloves. | 0:12:49 | 0:12:52 | |
Bobby, please. | 0:12:54 | 0:12:56 | |
You have to help me talk again to everyone about a plea. | 0:12:56 | 0:13:00 | |
If we go in there with this glove thing, | 0:13:00 | 0:13:03 | |
they will absolutely kill us. | 0:13:03 | 0:13:06 | |
And, once it's done, we'll have no chance to cut a deal. | 0:13:06 | 0:13:08 | |
Look, just talk to Johnnie, all right? | 0:13:08 | 0:13:10 | |
-I think making a deal is crazy. -Bobby, there... | 0:13:10 | 0:13:14 | |
The reason I'm talking to you | 0:13:14 | 0:13:16 | |
is that you may have a personal stake in this. | 0:13:16 | 0:13:18 | |
-Why? -The bag. -What bag? | 0:13:20 | 0:13:22 | |
OJ's bag that you maybe disposed of with the murder weapon. | 0:13:22 | 0:13:26 | |
-That I what? -There's video. | 0:13:26 | 0:13:28 | |
There's video of you walking out of Rockingham with it. | 0:13:28 | 0:13:32 | |
Wait, wait, wait. That... | 0:13:32 | 0:13:34 | |
that's OJ's garment bag that he gave to me | 0:13:34 | 0:13:36 | |
to take to my house before he came to stay with me. | 0:13:36 | 0:13:38 | |
For the sake of both of us, please, don't continue to tell me any more. | 0:13:38 | 0:13:42 | |
-No, wait a minute. -Now, if you do have possession of the weapon, | 0:13:42 | 0:13:45 | |
and you decided to suddenly turn it in, I don't know, | 0:13:45 | 0:13:48 | |
I guess, at most, it would be accessory after the fact. | 0:13:48 | 0:13:51 | |
You'd get five years, out in two. | 0:13:51 | 0:13:54 | |
Uh, but I don't know if we could convince them | 0:13:54 | 0:13:56 | |
that you didn't know it was in the bag. | 0:13:56 | 0:13:59 | |
I think that...I don't know. Maybe. | 0:13:59 | 0:14:01 | |
Bob, what the...? What are you doing? | 0:14:01 | 0:14:02 | |
Hup, hup. Please, please. No more talking. | 0:14:02 | 0:14:05 | |
This is starting to be a conflict of interest. | 0:14:05 | 0:14:09 | |
Gentlemen! | 0:14:09 | 0:14:10 | |
We ready? | 0:14:16 | 0:14:18 | |
Um, something's... | 0:14:18 | 0:14:20 | |
something's come up and I've got to go. | 0:14:20 | 0:14:22 | |
I'll catch up with you later. | 0:14:22 | 0:14:24 | |
-What's with him? -Possible developments. | 0:14:28 | 0:14:31 | |
-Anything you care to share, Bob? -No. No, not at this time. | 0:14:31 | 0:14:34 | |
Shall we? | 0:14:34 | 0:14:36 | |
So, that's it, huh? | 0:14:50 | 0:14:51 | |
Nobody ever asked about it? | 0:14:53 | 0:14:55 | |
No, it's just sat here the whole time. | 0:14:55 | 0:14:58 | |
I didn't want to open it alone. | 0:14:58 | 0:14:59 | |
You're the...you're the only one who goes back all the way with us, | 0:14:59 | 0:15:02 | |
-so, I-I thought... -You did the right thing, Bobby. | 0:15:02 | 0:15:05 | |
You want me to open it? | 0:15:11 | 0:15:13 | |
Hoo! I knew it! | 0:16:06 | 0:16:08 | |
I knew it! | 0:16:08 | 0:16:11 | |
I knew there was nothing funky in that bag, Bobby! | 0:16:11 | 0:16:13 | |
He didn't do it! | 0:16:15 | 0:16:16 | |
You see that, right? There's even more proof he didn't do it. | 0:16:16 | 0:16:20 | |
Who do you think did do it? | 0:16:22 | 0:16:23 | |
You know, my kids... | 0:16:27 | 0:16:28 | |
At school, the other kids, they... | 0:16:30 | 0:16:31 | |
they tease Bobby. | 0:16:31 | 0:16:34 | |
Tell him his dad's... | 0:16:34 | 0:16:36 | |
Hey. | 0:16:36 | 0:16:37 | |
It's a tough time right now. | 0:16:38 | 0:16:40 | |
I...I know it's hard to be strong, but, Bobby... | 0:16:41 | 0:16:44 | |
No. You don't understand. I'm-I'm really struggling. | 0:16:44 | 0:16:48 | |
I'm really struggling here, AC. | 0:16:48 | 0:16:50 | |
Even when...it seems everybody else has stopped working | 0:16:53 | 0:16:57 | |
to figure out who did it, I...I keep going over everything, | 0:16:57 | 0:17:01 | |
again and again. | 0:17:01 | 0:17:03 | |
Everything I know about Nicole, | 0:17:03 | 0:17:05 | |
everything I can learn about Ron Goldman. | 0:17:05 | 0:17:09 | |
I mean, there's never been more information, | 0:17:09 | 0:17:12 | |
more...more media coverage, more detectives, | 0:17:12 | 0:17:14 | |
more... Even the kooks! | 0:17:14 | 0:17:16 | |
All about one thing... | 0:17:16 | 0:17:19 | |
one crime, ever. | 0:17:19 | 0:17:21 | |
Ever! | 0:17:21 | 0:17:23 | |
And there's...just... | 0:17:23 | 0:17:25 | |
..nothing. | 0:17:27 | 0:17:28 | |
No other suspect? | 0:17:31 | 0:17:33 | |
No other answer? | 0:17:38 | 0:17:39 | |
-There's nothing else. -Nothing else? | 0:17:42 | 0:17:45 | |
Nothing else but what? | 0:17:47 | 0:17:48 | |
I didn't mean it like that. | 0:17:57 | 0:17:59 | |
Good. | 0:18:01 | 0:18:02 | |
OJ? | 0:18:16 | 0:18:17 | |
Everything all right? | 0:18:18 | 0:18:20 | |
So late. | 0:18:21 | 0:18:23 | |
Where is everyone? | 0:18:23 | 0:18:25 | |
Ah. I see. | 0:18:25 | 0:18:26 | |
Quality time, then. | 0:18:26 | 0:18:27 | |
Where's your "I Love Cops" pin? | 0:18:32 | 0:18:34 | |
That was just a political positioning, if you will. | 0:18:36 | 0:18:39 | |
What are you up to, Bob? | 0:18:41 | 0:18:42 | |
Why you be half-stepping? | 0:18:42 | 0:18:44 | |
I don't know what that means. | 0:18:44 | 0:18:45 | |
Why you keep trying to undermine Johnnie? | 0:18:47 | 0:18:49 | |
Hmm? Crossing the quarterback all the time now? I see it. | 0:18:49 | 0:18:53 | |
Everybody sees it. It's palpable. | 0:18:53 | 0:18:55 | |
So, I'll ask you again, Bob. | 0:18:57 | 0:19:00 | |
What the hell are you up to? | 0:19:01 | 0:19:03 | |
OK, well, Johnnie and I have our differences, | 0:19:03 | 0:19:05 | |
and we're clearing them up. | 0:19:05 | 0:19:06 | |
But I'm glad, I'm-I'm very glad that we're discussing this, | 0:19:06 | 0:19:09 | |
because, OJ, I think that this | 0:19:09 | 0:19:11 | |
whole wild LAPD conspiracy theory | 0:19:11 | 0:19:15 | |
is going to backfire on us. | 0:19:15 | 0:19:16 | |
Bob! | 0:19:16 | 0:19:17 | |
You were the one that came up with this idea. | 0:19:17 | 0:19:20 | |
-No, no, no, I didn't, I came up with the bad apple idea. -No. | 0:19:20 | 0:19:23 | |
-But Johnnie, John... -No! No! It was your play! | 0:19:23 | 0:19:26 | |
You were the first one to use the word "conspiracy." | 0:19:26 | 0:19:30 | |
You were the one that said no-one but Johnnie could make this work. | 0:19:30 | 0:19:33 | |
You teed this whole damn thing up, man! | 0:19:33 | 0:19:36 | |
So I don't want to hear no bullshit in the third quarter! You hear me? | 0:19:36 | 0:19:39 | |
OK. You can say what you want, you can yell all night, | 0:19:39 | 0:19:42 | |
but everything I do out there is for your best interest. | 0:19:42 | 0:19:45 | |
It's what I do. It's my agenda for you. | 0:19:45 | 0:19:49 | |
And if you recall correctly, it is why you came to me first! | 0:19:49 | 0:19:54 | |
Guard! | 0:19:56 | 0:19:57 | |
-DOOR BUZZES -You better think hard | 0:20:01 | 0:20:04 | |
and fast about whether or not you want to be on this team... | 0:20:04 | 0:20:07 | |
cos if you keep this bullshit up... | 0:20:07 | 0:20:09 | |
..there won't be no room here for you. | 0:20:11 | 0:20:14 | |
I know you heard that. | 0:20:14 | 0:20:15 | |
DOOR SLAMS | 0:20:18 | 0:20:20 | |
# Don't stop now baby Let's twist some more... # | 0:20:20 | 0:20:22 | |
MUSIC: The Twist by Chubby Checker | 0:20:22 | 0:20:25 | |
Yo, Chris! | 0:20:29 | 0:20:31 | |
We're over here! | 0:20:32 | 0:20:33 | |
Oh, what up, Byron? | 0:20:33 | 0:20:35 | |
-Happy birthday! -You made it, boy. | 0:20:35 | 0:20:38 | |
Good to see you. | 0:20:38 | 0:20:40 | |
Oh, guys, this is Marcia. | 0:20:40 | 0:20:42 | |
Marcia, this is guys. | 0:20:42 | 0:20:44 | |
-Byron, the birthday boy... -Nice to meet you. -..Darrell... | 0:20:44 | 0:20:47 | |
..Moses, Philly, Rick. | 0:20:47 | 0:20:50 | |
-Oh! -For you, man. -Oh, what's this? | 0:20:50 | 0:20:52 | |
THEY CHEER | 0:20:52 | 0:20:54 | |
Oh, no! No. | 0:20:58 | 0:21:01 | |
-I ain't never gonna wear this. Look at this! -Why not? | 0:21:01 | 0:21:03 | |
It's 100% cotton, and it might help you out of a traffic ticket. | 0:21:03 | 0:21:06 | |
Oh! She got jokes, huh? Huh? | 0:21:06 | 0:21:10 | |
So, is this an AA meeting, or is someone gonna buy me a drink? | 0:21:10 | 0:21:14 | |
-Allow me. Allow me. -Handle that, boy. | 0:21:14 | 0:21:16 | |
-Get it! Get it! -Come on! Come on! | 0:21:22 | 0:21:24 | |
Everybody, to my main man, Byron! | 0:21:24 | 0:21:26 | |
Happy birthday! | 0:21:26 | 0:21:28 | |
THEY CHEER | 0:21:28 | 0:21:30 | |
Happy birthday! | 0:21:30 | 0:21:32 | |
-Mm. -Mm. -Ah. | 0:21:32 | 0:21:34 | |
Whoo! | 0:21:34 | 0:21:36 | |
-Now, I'm not saying that he did it... -Darrell! | 0:21:36 | 0:21:38 | |
Darrell, we had a rule! | 0:21:38 | 0:21:40 | |
First one who mentions that goddamn case drinks. | 0:21:40 | 0:21:43 | |
Fine by me. | 0:21:45 | 0:21:46 | |
Mm! | 0:21:46 | 0:21:48 | |
I'm not saying that he did it. The jury's still out. | 0:21:48 | 0:21:51 | |
Yeah, that is right. | 0:21:51 | 0:21:52 | |
But I heard he was making some TV show about Navy SEALS or some shit, | 0:21:52 | 0:21:55 | |
where he was trained to kill. | 0:21:55 | 0:21:57 | |
-Yeah, yeah. Frogmen. -Yeah. That's it! | 0:21:57 | 0:22:00 | |
They showed him all these kinds of techniques. | 0:22:00 | 0:22:02 | |
How to sneak around and kill people with knives. | 0:22:02 | 0:22:05 | |
-Oh! -Cut throats and slash their legs, all that. | 0:22:05 | 0:22:08 | |
Why aren't you talking about that in court? | 0:22:08 | 0:22:10 | |
Because the jury would be able to separate from TV and real life. | 0:22:10 | 0:22:14 | |
Look, we're strong enough without that kind of crap! | 0:22:14 | 0:22:16 | |
-The cops framed his ass, anyway. -Mm-hmm. | 0:22:16 | 0:22:19 | |
Is that right, Byron? | 0:22:19 | 0:22:20 | |
-Oh, no. You're on your own now, brother. -No, no, no, no, no. | 0:22:20 | 0:22:23 | |
Come on, come on, come on, come on! | 0:22:23 | 0:22:25 | |
What's your theory? | 0:22:25 | 0:22:27 | |
Well, I think that cracker cop planted that glove. | 0:22:27 | 0:22:30 | |
And they all did what they had to do to prove that OJ did it. | 0:22:30 | 0:22:34 | |
That's what I think. | 0:22:34 | 0:22:35 | |
Hmm. | 0:22:37 | 0:22:38 | |
OK. | 0:22:38 | 0:22:39 | |
Here's the crime scene Bundy. | 0:22:47 | 0:22:49 | |
Here's OJ's house. | 0:22:50 | 0:22:52 | |
OK. | 0:22:53 | 0:22:55 | |
Furhman made up his mind | 0:22:55 | 0:22:57 | |
at Bundy that Simpson did it. | 0:22:57 | 0:22:59 | |
Even though he had no idea if OJ | 0:22:59 | 0:23:02 | |
had an iron-clad alibi that would then ruin Furhman's career | 0:23:02 | 0:23:05 | |
and land him in jail. | 0:23:05 | 0:23:08 | |
Fuhrman takes the glove at Bundy, makes sure it has Goldman | 0:23:08 | 0:23:11 | |
and Nicole's DNA on it, jumps in the car with the other detectives, | 0:23:11 | 0:23:16 | |
heads to Rockingham with it, where he gets into the Bronco, | 0:23:16 | 0:23:20 | |
somehow getting all that evidence in it, | 0:23:20 | 0:23:24 | |
including Simpson's blood. | 0:23:24 | 0:23:26 | |
-Right. -Even though the police didn't have Simpson's blood | 0:23:26 | 0:23:31 | |
-until the next day. -Mm, mm, mm. | 0:23:31 | 0:23:34 | |
Then he goes over the wall... | 0:23:34 | 0:23:37 | |
plants the glove behind Kato's room. | 0:23:37 | 0:23:40 | |
Then, with the help of the rest of his super secret cabal | 0:23:40 | 0:23:43 | |
of OJ-hating racist cops, he starts getting everything just so, | 0:23:43 | 0:23:47 | |
just where it needs to be. | 0:23:47 | 0:23:49 | |
Nicole AND Ron AND OJ's blood | 0:23:49 | 0:23:53 | |
into OJ's bedroom. | 0:23:53 | 0:23:56 | |
OJ's blood, back to Bundy. | 0:23:56 | 0:23:59 | |
Oh, and OJ's Bronco's fibres back to Bundy, too. | 0:23:59 | 0:24:02 | |
Oh, and they don't forget to get rid of the real killer's blood | 0:24:02 | 0:24:05 | |
from the back gate - no, no, no - and replace it with OJ's blood. | 0:24:05 | 0:24:10 | |
Then OJ's sock, they get that back to Bundy | 0:24:10 | 0:24:13 | |
to pick up all the blood, | 0:24:13 | 0:24:15 | |
and then get that sucker right back to Rockingham, too. | 0:24:15 | 0:24:18 | |
These guys are a well-oiled conspiracy machine, after all. | 0:24:18 | 0:24:23 | |
All this during a time when everyone involved is under | 0:24:25 | 0:24:28 | |
the most relentless media scrutiny in American history. | 0:24:28 | 0:24:32 | |
-HE IMITATES EXPLOSION -And all this for an unknown killer. | 0:24:32 | 0:24:36 | |
-Maybe. -No! | 0:24:39 | 0:24:40 | |
-No! -Man, you're good. | 0:24:43 | 0:24:45 | |
You're real good. | 0:24:45 | 0:24:47 | |
-When this is all over, you should go work for Johnnie. -Oh! | 0:24:47 | 0:24:50 | |
-Both of you! -Yeah, yeah. Ha, ha. Very funny. | 0:24:50 | 0:24:53 | |
SHE IMITATES EXPLOSION | 0:24:53 | 0:24:54 | |
This round is on me. | 0:24:54 | 0:24:56 | |
-Yo. -Hm. -She is a trip. | 0:24:59 | 0:25:02 | |
You got schooled, both of you. | 0:25:02 | 0:25:05 | |
Tonight's the night, player. | 0:25:05 | 0:25:06 | |
Out of town. Her kids are at home. | 0:25:06 | 0:25:09 | |
-Y'all been drinkin' a little bit. -And she's my co-worker. That's all. | 0:25:09 | 0:25:13 | |
Mm-hmm? Look, you ever thought about making that happen... | 0:25:13 | 0:25:16 | |
..tonight's the night. | 0:25:18 | 0:25:19 | |
-Yes, sir. -I'm just saying! | 0:25:19 | 0:25:21 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:25:31 | 0:25:33 | |
-Oh! No, no! -Yeah! | 0:25:35 | 0:25:38 | |
Oh, my God! | 0:25:38 | 0:25:39 | |
-Ahh! -Well, I am coming back here next weekend, with or without you. | 0:25:42 | 0:25:47 | |
-Well, my friends might prefer it that way. -Mm-hm. | 0:25:47 | 0:25:50 | |
This is me. | 0:25:55 | 0:25:56 | |
-This...311? -Yeah, 311. -Yeah. | 0:26:00 | 0:26:03 | |
Uh... | 0:26:16 | 0:26:18 | |
well... | 0:26:18 | 0:26:19 | |
..goodnight. | 0:26:33 | 0:26:35 | |
Goodnight, Darden. | 0:26:50 | 0:26:51 | |
-Hey, Big Time, got you a coffee. -Had one already. | 0:27:23 | 0:27:26 | |
Oh, no, just leave that open. Thanks. | 0:27:27 | 0:27:29 | |
Listen, I've been thinking. | 0:27:32 | 0:27:34 | |
Mm-hm? | 0:27:34 | 0:27:36 | |
I think you and I should just go for it. | 0:27:38 | 0:27:40 | |
SHE CHUCKLES | 0:27:40 | 0:27:41 | |
And what does that mean? | 0:27:41 | 0:27:43 | |
Let's make OJ put on those gloves. | 0:27:44 | 0:27:47 | |
We need a big one. Big moment, right? | 0:27:47 | 0:27:50 | |
We talked about this before. | 0:27:51 | 0:27:53 | |
And I decided that it's not a good idea. At all. | 0:27:53 | 0:27:56 | |
And not the right time, if it were. | 0:27:56 | 0:27:57 | |
But today's the glove testimony. It's the only time. | 0:27:57 | 0:28:01 | |
Come on, hm? We got to get down there. | 0:28:01 | 0:28:04 | |
The idea of OJ just standing there, | 0:28:04 | 0:28:06 | |
in front of those cameras and the jury, | 0:28:06 | 0:28:08 | |
-wearing those gloves... -Chris, come on. | 0:28:08 | 0:28:11 | |
We're going downstairs to get our conviction today. | 0:28:11 | 0:28:15 | |
We have his gloves with all the DNA, everybody's blood, | 0:28:15 | 0:28:18 | |
the fibres, all of it. | 0:28:18 | 0:28:19 | |
We have a receipt that proves he owned them. We're done. | 0:28:19 | 0:28:23 | |
We've been dealt a king and a ten. | 0:28:23 | 0:28:25 | |
I don't know why you want to ask the dealer for another card. | 0:28:25 | 0:28:27 | |
-Because I know it's an ace. -No, you don't! | 0:28:27 | 0:28:30 | |
You turn over control of a demonstration to the opponent, | 0:28:31 | 0:28:34 | |
you don't know what's going to happen. | 0:28:34 | 0:28:36 | |
And certainly not to the defendant himself. | 0:28:36 | 0:28:39 | |
OK? | 0:28:41 | 0:28:43 | |
Come on, let's go. | 0:28:43 | 0:28:45 | |
Do you think there's any way that these two gloves | 0:28:51 | 0:28:53 | |
could not be a pair? | 0:28:53 | 0:28:55 | |
I'd have to say it would be virtually impossible. | 0:28:55 | 0:28:57 | |
All right, at this time, we will take a 15 minute recess. | 0:29:08 | 0:29:11 | |
HE BANGS GAVEL | 0:29:11 | 0:29:12 | |
HE SIGHS DRAMATICALLY | 0:29:35 | 0:29:37 | |
-Hello, Mike. -Bob. | 0:29:48 | 0:29:50 | |
Hey. | 0:30:42 | 0:30:43 | |
Are any of you interested in something other than | 0:30:48 | 0:30:51 | |
a conspiracy theory? | 0:30:51 | 0:30:53 | |
Some real, demonstrable evidence? | 0:30:53 | 0:30:55 | |
A little bit of real lawyering? | 0:30:57 | 0:30:59 | |
Those gloves are too small. | 0:31:02 | 0:31:05 | |
-Yes, Bob? -I tried the glove on in there myself, it didn't fit. | 0:31:11 | 0:31:14 | |
It will never fit him! I think we should have him try it on in court. | 0:31:14 | 0:31:17 | |
I think it's a terrible idea. What if it doesn't work? | 0:31:17 | 0:31:19 | |
You don't make a play in there if you don't know the outcome. | 0:31:19 | 0:31:22 | |
-I know the outcome. -My hand is bigger than Bob's! | 0:31:22 | 0:31:25 | |
Put me in, Coach! | 0:31:25 | 0:31:26 | |
So, saying we...wanted to... | 0:31:29 | 0:31:31 | |
-..how do we present it? -We don't. | 0:31:32 | 0:31:34 | |
We get them to present it. | 0:31:37 | 0:31:39 | |
Hm. | 0:31:44 | 0:31:46 | |
Marcia, | 0:32:11 | 0:32:12 | |
they're glazing over, and we got to get up and take it back. | 0:32:12 | 0:32:15 | |
Chris...no way. | 0:32:15 | 0:32:17 | |
Enough. | 0:32:17 | 0:32:19 | |
OK? | 0:32:19 | 0:32:20 | |
I'm sorry. | 0:32:22 | 0:32:23 | |
-Marcia... -Let me be clear. | 0:32:23 | 0:32:25 | |
This is my case. You work for me here. | 0:32:26 | 0:32:29 | |
And when I say drop it, you drop it. | 0:32:29 | 0:32:31 | |
Are we clear? | 0:32:33 | 0:32:35 | |
-Are you seriously saying that to me? -You're making me say it. -OK. | 0:32:35 | 0:32:38 | |
You, sir, have the balls of a stud field mouse. | 0:32:53 | 0:32:57 | |
What did you just say to me? | 0:32:57 | 0:32:58 | |
If you don't ask him to try on the gloves, I will. | 0:32:58 | 0:33:01 | |
All rise! | 0:33:01 | 0:33:03 | |
All right, you may be seated. | 0:33:13 | 0:33:14 | |
And these gloves, the ones you've brought today, | 0:33:21 | 0:33:23 | |
these would fit the wearer | 0:33:23 | 0:33:25 | |
just as the ones here in evidence would, is that correct? | 0:33:25 | 0:33:27 | |
Your Honour? Sidebar. | 0:33:27 | 0:33:30 | |
Counsel, approach the bench. | 0:33:30 | 0:33:32 | |
Your Honour, I see where this is going, and I'm not having it. | 0:33:38 | 0:33:41 | |
And where is that, Counsellor? | 0:33:41 | 0:33:43 | |
There'll be no demonstrations involving my client. | 0:33:43 | 0:33:45 | |
If Mr Simpson chooses to testify, and we want to have him | 0:33:45 | 0:33:49 | |
try on the actual glove in evidence, that's one thing. | 0:33:49 | 0:33:51 | |
Further, I submit the timing is inappropriate, Your Honour. | 0:33:51 | 0:33:54 | |
-Is that right, Johnnie? -That's right. -For who? | 0:33:54 | 0:33:56 | |
Opposing counsel hasn't asked for anything of the kind, Mr Cochran. | 0:33:56 | 0:33:59 | |
Your Honour, they just tried to bring in these ringer gloves here. | 0:33:59 | 0:34:02 | |
They seem to be overly concerned about what | 0:34:02 | 0:34:04 | |
I might or might not want to do before I've even done it. | 0:34:04 | 0:34:06 | |
He can ask for whatever he wants to ask for, Mr Cochran. | 0:34:06 | 0:34:08 | |
You can object if you want to object. Now let's proceed. | 0:34:08 | 0:34:12 | |
Your Honour, at this time, the People would ask that Mr Simpson | 0:34:26 | 0:34:29 | |
step forward and try on the gloves recovered from Bundy and Rockingham. | 0:34:29 | 0:34:32 | |
GASPS AND CHATTER IN AUDIENCE | 0:34:33 | 0:34:35 | |
We have no objection, Your Honour. | 0:34:39 | 0:34:42 | |
Mr Simpson, please approach the jury. | 0:35:36 | 0:35:39 | |
These gloves are too small. | 0:36:40 | 0:36:41 | |
CHATTER | 0:36:41 | 0:36:43 | |
Too tight. They won't fit. | 0:36:45 | 0:36:47 | |
Can Mr Simpson please straighten his fingers? | 0:36:47 | 0:36:50 | |
Can we ask that he make a fist? With his right hand. | 0:36:58 | 0:37:01 | |
Can we ask that he... | 0:37:07 | 0:37:08 | |
..grasp an object with his hand? A marker, perhaps? | 0:37:10 | 0:37:13 | |
Objection, Your Honour. | 0:37:15 | 0:37:17 | |
Sustained. | 0:37:17 | 0:37:19 | |
Have we seen enough, Your Honour? | 0:37:19 | 0:37:20 | |
Mr Darden? | 0:37:22 | 0:37:24 | |
Thank you. | 0:37:26 | 0:37:27 | |
No, your Honour. I have nothing... | 0:37:29 | 0:37:32 | |
I have nothing further. | 0:37:32 | 0:37:33 | |
He was...making them not fit. | 0:37:43 | 0:37:45 | |
I mean, you saw what he was doing. | 0:37:46 | 0:37:48 | |
And he had the gloves under the... | 0:37:48 | 0:37:51 | |
He kept his fingers stiff. | 0:37:51 | 0:37:53 | |
He was acting, he was just... | 0:37:53 | 0:37:55 | |
PHONE RINGS | 0:38:44 | 0:38:47 | |
'Hello, you've reached the Goldman residence. | 0:38:47 | 0:38:49 | |
'Please leave your message, and we will return your call.' | 0:38:49 | 0:38:52 | |
-MACHINE BEEPS -Fred, uh, it's Chris Darden. | 0:38:52 | 0:38:55 | |
Um... | 0:38:56 | 0:38:57 | |
I'm sorry about what happened today. | 0:38:59 | 0:39:01 | |
I am sorry. | 0:39:02 | 0:39:03 | |
But it's not over yet. | 0:39:06 | 0:39:07 | |
We'll come back from this. | 0:39:07 | 0:39:09 | |
We will. | 0:39:09 | 0:39:10 | |
OK. You know, call me any time. | 0:39:13 | 0:39:15 | |
Bye. | 0:39:16 | 0:39:17 | |
HE SIGHS DEEPLY | 0:39:23 | 0:39:25 |