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-To London next, London next. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:04 | |
-Are you ready in London? Mic OK? | 0:00:04 | 0:00:07 | |
-Coming over to Guto in ten, nine... | 0:00:07 | 0:00:09 | |
-..eight, seven, six... | 0:00:10 | 0:00:12 | |
-..five, four, three, two, one. | 0:00:12 | 0:00:16 | |
-It's hard to believe, -but in this past hour... | 0:00:17 | 0:00:20 | |
-..a dramatic arrest occurred -here on the corner of Chancery Lane. | 0:00:20 | 0:00:25 | |
-Police describe the man -as a dangerous religious extremist. | 0:00:25 | 0:00:30 | |
-They claim that this man -sought to undermine our way of life. | 0:00:30 | 0:00:34 | |
-His allegiance -was to a foreign faith and power. | 0:00:34 | 0:00:38 | |
-Eye witnesses have told me -that a special police unit arrived. | 0:00:38 | 0:00:42 | |
-The suspect was being given shelter. | 0:00:43 | 0:00:45 | |
-It's a central location, -right in the heart of legal London. | 0:00:45 | 0:00:50 | |
-The police plainly view this -as a significant development. | 0:00:50 | 0:00:55 | |
-News reports like that -are commonplace today. | 0:00:55 | 0:00:58 | |
-London, in particular, -has its fair share of such events. | 0:00:58 | 0:01:03 | |
-But that item of news -is actually 400 years old. | 0:01:03 | 0:01:06 | |
-At the time, it created -a major dilemma for the authorities. | 0:01:07 | 0:01:11 | |
-I give advice -to the modern day Mayor of London. | 0:01:11 | 0:01:14 | |
-But had I been an adviser -at that time, I'd find it difficult. | 0:01:14 | 0:01:19 | |
-Here was a real offender, -a true threat to the state. | 0:01:19 | 0:01:23 | |
-That said, he had never -physically harmed a soul. | 0:01:23 | 0:01:27 | |
-He was a hero to many -and is now officially a saint. | 0:01:27 | 0:01:30 | |
-He was a man who was prepared -to make the ultimate sacrifice. | 0:01:31 | 0:01:35 | |
-The church saw him as a martyr. | 0:01:35 | 0:01:37 | |
-He, like me, was a Welshman -living in London, and a Catholic. | 0:01:37 | 0:01:42 | |
-SACRED CHORAL MUSIC | 0:01:45 | 0:01:46 | |
-The story of John Roberts -is an exciting, unlikely tale. | 0:01:55 | 0:01:59 | |
-It's even more unlikely -if you view your average saint... | 0:01:59 | 0:02:04 | |
-..as a gentle, other-worldly being, -belonging only in a church window. | 0:02:04 | 0:02:09 | |
-In this case, think again. | 0:02:09 | 0:02:12 | |
-I'm on the trail -of a strong, wily and inventive man. | 0:02:12 | 0:02:17 | |
-He was a man of flesh and blood. | 0:02:17 | 0:02:19 | |
-By bravely following his Lord, -he had to face a most painful death. | 0:02:20 | 0:02:25 | |
-But he lost not his smile, -nor his principles. | 0:02:25 | 0:02:28 | |
-This is a pilgrimage -from north Wales to northern Spain. | 0:02:29 | 0:02:34 | |
-We'll follow one who bade farewell -to homely comforts and his people. | 0:02:34 | 0:02:40 | |
-He wished to understand -the purpose of our existence. | 0:02:40 | 0:02:44 | |
-We will try to make sense -of his conclusions. | 0:02:44 | 0:02:47 | |
-The world of John Roberts -is dark and dangerous. | 0:02:50 | 0:02:53 | |
-It's a secretive world -of hiding and fleeing. | 0:02:54 | 0:02:57 | |
-He's a hero who outwits -the hierarchy of his own church. | 0:03:02 | 0:03:07 | |
-He becomes the scourge -of the secret police. | 0:03:07 | 0:03:10 | |
-He leaves his cell -and escapes from jail... | 0:03:10 | 0:03:12 | |
-..just as the gallows face him. | 0:03:13 | 0:03:15 | |
-A pilgrimage? Yes. | 0:03:17 | 0:03:19 | |
-But also a spiritual voyage -closely linked to powerful people... | 0:03:19 | 0:03:24 | |
-..and what they consider important -in the real and material world. | 0:03:24 | 0:03:29 | |
-The corridors of power, -money, influence and religion... | 0:03:32 | 0:03:37 | |
-..formed the world of John Roberts. | 0:03:37 | 0:03:39 | |
-He was a significant figure -in London and on the continent. | 0:03:39 | 0:03:44 | |
-He also took part -in the main struggle of the age. | 0:03:44 | 0:03:47 | |
-He wanted Catholicism -restored in England and Wales. | 0:03:47 | 0:03:51 | |
-And yet how many of us -have heard of John Roberts? | 0:03:52 | 0:03:55 | |
-Do we ever think of Wales -as a Catholic country? | 0:03:55 | 0:03:58 | |
-It would be easy to ignore -the Martyr of Meirionnydd. | 0:03:59 | 0:04:02 | |
-But I find in his story -relevant and contemporary issues. | 0:04:03 | 0:04:07 | |
-London. The year is 1610. | 0:04:12 | 0:04:16 | |
-The end of the first decade -of a new century. | 0:04:16 | 0:04:19 | |
-The capital city of England -is a fashionable metropolis. | 0:04:19 | 0:04:23 | |
-Creative energies abound. | 0:04:24 | 0:04:26 | |
-Listen to the music of William Byrd, -a favourite among intellectuals. | 0:04:26 | 0:04:31 | |
-Visit the Globe to see -a new William Shakespeare play. | 0:04:36 | 0:04:39 | |
-The Welsh are everywhere. | 0:04:40 | 0:04:42 | |
-They're the largest ethnic group, -sociable and influential. | 0:04:42 | 0:04:46 | |
-They're prominent in law -and commerce. | 0:04:47 | 0:04:50 | |
-It wouldn't surprise people... | 0:04:51 | 0:04:53 | |
-..that one of us -was trying to transform society. | 0:04:53 | 0:04:56 | |
-The exceptional ambition -of John Roberts... | 0:04:57 | 0:05:00 | |
-..sends him in many directions. | 0:05:01 | 0:05:03 | |
-But invariably, -he tended to return to London. | 0:05:03 | 0:05:07 | |
-This was always the centre -of any key episodes in his life. | 0:05:07 | 0:05:11 | |
-I love this city - -but for him, it's full of danger. | 0:05:11 | 0:05:15 | |
-He must take care, -and look over his shoulder... | 0:05:15 | 0:05:18 | |
-..hide in corners to stay safe. | 0:05:19 | 0:05:22 | |
-Eventually, he relies -on others for his personal security. | 0:05:22 | 0:05:26 | |
-And so he asks others to help him, -as well as keeping the faith. | 0:05:26 | 0:05:31 | |
-Yes, religion is the root -of the problem. | 0:05:33 | 0:05:36 | |
-Everyone is under suspicion. | 0:05:36 | 0:05:38 | |
-You must be careful about -what you say, write or sing. | 0:05:38 | 0:05:42 | |
-William Byrd's music -is dubious because he's a Catholic. | 0:05:42 | 0:05:46 | |
-Even William Shakespeare's -works are scrutinized carefully. | 0:05:46 | 0:05:51 | |
-The citizens of London live -under the state's watchful eye. | 0:05:51 | 0:05:56 | |
-There are spies -in every tavern, street and shop. | 0:05:58 | 0:06:01 | |
-The punishment for treason -is severe and painful. | 0:06:01 | 0:06:05 | |
-"Hanged, drawn and quartered" -is the well-known phrase. | 0:06:05 | 0:06:09 | |
-It barely describes -the bloody procedure involved. | 0:06:09 | 0:06:14 | |
-A butcher removes your intestines -and genitals, after hanging you. | 0:06:14 | 0:06:19 | |
-But you're still conscious -and aware of what's happening. | 0:06:19 | 0:06:23 | |
-In this Protestant land, -it was the monarch's wish... | 0:06:25 | 0:06:29 | |
-..to be Head of the Church. | 0:06:29 | 0:06:31 | |
-The Catholic countries abroad -were considered as the enemy. | 0:06:32 | 0:06:36 | |
-Native Catholics -were made to feel uncomfortable. | 0:06:36 | 0:06:40 | |
-As it happens, -most were loyal to the state. | 0:06:40 | 0:06:43 | |
-But their spiritual allegiance -lay with the Pope in Rome. | 0:06:43 | 0:06:47 | |
-Unfortunately, -in the eyes of the law here... | 0:06:47 | 0:06:50 | |
-..this was tantamount -to high treason. | 0:06:50 | 0:06:53 | |
-The government in London -is prepared for war. | 0:06:57 | 0:07:00 | |
-It's determined to defend itself, -its people and the way of life. | 0:07:01 | 0:07:05 | |
-John Roberts is equally determined -as his own journey nears its end. | 0:07:08 | 0:07:13 | |
-He's 33 and has travelled far -before his imprisonment in London. | 0:07:13 | 0:07:19 | |
-But he's spent a whole lifetime -preparing for his great hour. | 0:07:19 | 0:07:23 | |
-He well knows his fate -and the torment ahead of him. | 0:07:24 | 0:07:28 | |
-But the shadow of the hangman... | 0:07:28 | 0:07:30 | |
-..fails to dim -his devotion to his faith. | 0:07:30 | 0:07:33 | |
-If I had ten thousand lives... | 0:07:36 | 0:07:38 | |
-..and each one more dear -to me than the one I have... | 0:07:38 | 0:07:42 | |
-..I would sacrifice -them all for this cause. | 0:07:42 | 0:07:45 | |
-Why was this life -not enough for John Roberts? | 0:07:45 | 0:07:49 | |
-From where did such passion come? | 0:07:49 | 0:07:52 | |
-He spent his childhood -in Trawsfynydd. | 0:08:09 | 0:08:12 | |
-His family is linked to the nobility -of Gwynedd, Powys and Deheubarth. | 0:08:12 | 0:08:16 | |
-But much had been inherited -by John's cousin, Robert Lloyd. | 0:08:17 | 0:08:21 | |
-Lloyd was a Member of Parliament -but lived locally. | 0:08:22 | 0:08:25 | |
-Home was Rhiw Goch Mansion, -which today is a hotel. | 0:08:26 | 0:08:30 | |
-One thing's obvious -to all those who visit here. | 0:08:30 | 0:08:33 | |
-Robert Lloyd had created -a solid, established life... | 0:08:34 | 0:08:38 | |
-..while his cousin, -at precisely the same time... | 0:08:38 | 0:08:42 | |
-..was facing -an altogether different fate. | 0:08:42 | 0:08:45 | |
-Thank you very much. | 0:08:46 | 0:08:47 | |
-Thank you very much. - -You're welcome. | 0:08:47 | 0:08:48 | |
-Yes, John Roberts's family -enjoyed a pleasant lifestyle. | 0:08:48 | 0:08:53 | |
-They were, after all, -of princely descent. | 0:08:53 | 0:08:56 | |
-Robert Lloyd was astute enough -to hold on to the good life... | 0:08:56 | 0:09:00 | |
-..despite the changing times. | 0:09:00 | 0:09:02 | |
-The changes are nearby. | 0:09:04 | 0:09:06 | |
-For 400 years, Cymer Abbey -was the religious heart of the area. | 0:09:07 | 0:09:12 | |
-But nothing could prevent -the King from changing all that. | 0:09:12 | 0:09:16 | |
-That King, of course, -was Henry VIII. | 0:09:18 | 0:09:21 | |
-On breaking with Rome, -he abolishes the Abbey. | 0:09:22 | 0:09:24 | |
-He demolishes the buildings. | 0:09:25 | 0:09:26 | |
-He confiscates -all the monks' belongings. | 0:09:27 | 0:09:29 | |
-On what was holy land, -only ruins now remain. | 0:09:30 | 0:09:33 | |
-The message to the area's -population is crystal clear. | 0:09:37 | 0:09:41 | |
-There's no option -but to conform with the new order. | 0:09:41 | 0:09:44 | |
-Attending John Roberts' baptism -in Trawsfynydd... | 0:09:45 | 0:09:48 | |
-..his parents would be astounded... | 0:09:48 | 0:09:51 | |
-..by changes in the church -since their own childhood days. | 0:09:51 | 0:09:56 | |
-Religious upheavals in Tudor times -must have baffled many people. | 0:09:57 | 0:10:01 | |
-It was hard for common folk. | 0:10:02 | 0:10:04 | |
-Are they with the Church of Rome, -or England, or another entity? | 0:10:04 | 0:10:08 | |
-Under Henry VIII, -the answer seemed fairly clear. | 0:10:08 | 0:10:12 | |
-But his daughter Mary promotes -a return to old Catholic ways. | 0:10:13 | 0:10:17 | |
-Decorations and sculptures -re-appear in churches... | 0:10:17 | 0:10:21 | |
-..as do the priests -and their colourful attire. | 0:10:21 | 0:10:25 | |
-Then, Elizabeth succeeds her -and prohibits everything again. | 0:10:25 | 0:10:29 | |
-Little evidence exists to suggest -that rural Welsh people... | 0:10:31 | 0:10:35 | |
-..were keen converts -to the Protestant faith. | 0:10:35 | 0:10:38 | |
-Elizabeth decreed public worship -in the old ways to be illegal. | 0:10:39 | 0:10:43 | |
-The Queen still harboured a fear. | 0:10:43 | 0:10:47 | |
-The Welsh were slow to embrace -the new faith in their hearts. | 0:10:47 | 0:10:51 | |
-When John Roberts -was 12 years old... | 0:10:52 | 0:10:55 | |
-..in 1588, William Morgan's Bible -brought the word of God to Wales... | 0:10:55 | 0:11:00 | |
-..in the native tongue, -for the first time. | 0:11:00 | 0:11:03 | |
-It was a calculated move... | 0:11:03 | 0:11:05 | |
-..to ensure allegiance -to the new religion... | 0:11:06 | 0:11:09 | |
-..among the monoglot population -in remote parts of Wales... | 0:11:09 | 0:11:14 | |
-..where old traditions died hard. | 0:11:14 | 0:11:16 | |
-There is no open revolt -against Protestantism here... | 0:11:16 | 0:11:20 | |
-..but many local people -do have their doubts. | 0:11:20 | 0:11:23 | |
-They can't save Cymer Abbey... | 0:11:23 | 0:11:26 | |
-..but Henry is prevented -from seizing the communion plates. | 0:11:26 | 0:11:30 | |
-The cup and plate -are hidden in a safe place. | 0:11:30 | 0:11:34 | |
-Nobody discovers them for 300 years. | 0:11:34 | 0:11:37 | |
-As a boy wandering these slopes... | 0:11:38 | 0:11:41 | |
-..John Roberts -could reflect over both traditions. | 0:11:41 | 0:11:45 | |
-In church, the new religion -was gradually establishing itself. | 0:11:45 | 0:11:50 | |
-But the spirit of the land is older. | 0:11:50 | 0:11:53 | |
-Those around him have long memories. | 0:11:53 | 0:11:57 | |
-A legend persists locally. | 0:11:57 | 0:11:59 | |
-A monk who fled Cymer is said -to have been John Roberts's tutor. | 0:11:59 | 0:12:04 | |
-He influenced the young man greatly. | 0:12:04 | 0:12:07 | |
-Welsh verses on Sundays, -with a Protestant church minister... | 0:12:09 | 0:12:14 | |
-..and Latin lessons in the week -with a former monk from the Abbey. | 0:12:14 | 0:12:19 | |
-In any event, he's a bright pupil -and is soon to read law in Oxford. | 0:12:19 | 0:12:24 | |
-Most parents would be proud of that. | 0:12:24 | 0:12:27 | |
-But for John Roberts, -going up to Oxford... | 0:12:27 | 0:12:30 | |
-..is the first step -on an extremely dangerous path. | 0:12:30 | 0:12:34 | |
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-Are traitors bred here at Oxford? | 0:12:43 | 0:12:46 | |
-Education, religion and rebellion -is a mix that worries authority. | 0:12:46 | 0:12:51 | |
-Up until now, however, it was felt -that any link was only relevant... | 0:12:52 | 0:12:56 | |
-..in foreign educational centres -and not with our intellectual elite. | 0:12:57 | 0:13:02 | |
-But it's now feared that -top intellectual support exists... | 0:13:02 | 0:13:06 | |
-..for terrorist activities -here at St John's College. | 0:13:07 | 0:13:11 | |
-BELLS RING | 0:13:12 | 0:13:14 | |
-John Roberts arrives -at Oxford University... | 0:13:21 | 0:13:24 | |
-..in the year 1596. | 0:13:25 | 0:13:27 | |
-He registers at St John's -College as a law student. | 0:13:27 | 0:13:31 | |
-He intends, as is his family's wish, -to have a safe, respectable career. | 0:13:31 | 0:13:36 | |
-Here's the register -from John Roberts' time here. | 0:13:37 | 0:13:40 | |
-His name's here - John Roberts, -Meirionnydd, generosi filius. | 0:13:41 | 0:13:45 | |
-That's Latin for son of a gentleman. | 0:13:45 | 0:13:48 | |
-His age is shown as 19 years old. | 0:13:48 | 0:13:50 | |
-In the library are the Articles. | 0:13:52 | 0:13:55 | |
-It was compulsory -for students to conform with these. | 0:13:56 | 0:14:00 | |
-Here's John Roberts' handwriting. | 0:14:02 | 0:14:05 | |
-It's a thrill to see a saint's -name written in his own hand. | 0:14:05 | 0:14:10 | |
-According to Church belief... | 0:14:10 | 0:14:12 | |
-..a saint has overcome -all temptations of the flesh... | 0:14:12 | 0:14:16 | |
-..and resides -very close to the presence of God. | 0:14:17 | 0:14:21 | |
-It's a long journey -for John Roberts from here... | 0:14:21 | 0:14:25 | |
-..to becoming a Catholic hero. | 0:14:25 | 0:14:27 | |
-What he does here is swear -his allegiance to Queen Elizabeth... | 0:14:27 | 0:14:32 | |
-..and to her church, -the Protestant Church. | 0:14:32 | 0:14:35 | |
-What it shows is the state, -four centuries ago... | 0:14:36 | 0:14:40 | |
-..was absolutely determined -to control what went on... | 0:14:40 | 0:14:44 | |
-..in the depth of our hearts. | 0:14:44 | 0:14:46 | |
-BELLS RING | 0:14:47 | 0:14:49 | |
-But the authorities -have good reason to be anxious. | 0:14:53 | 0:14:57 | |
-A generation earlier, -a hundred Oxford dons had fled. | 0:14:57 | 0:15:01 | |
-They had wanted no part -of the new Protestant order. | 0:15:02 | 0:15:05 | |
-Some went to Douai in France -and founded a new college. | 0:15:10 | 0:15:14 | |
-Welshmen and Englishmen -would be trained there as priests. | 0:15:14 | 0:15:19 | |
-They would return in due course -to restore Britain to Catholicism. | 0:15:19 | 0:15:24 | |
-The university remains -a place of keen religious debate... | 0:15:24 | 0:15:28 | |
-..when John Roberts -arrives as a student. | 0:15:28 | 0:15:31 | |
-As chance would have it, -other Welshmen are here already. | 0:15:31 | 0:15:35 | |
-They're reading law -but have wider interests too. | 0:15:36 | 0:15:39 | |
-I know from my own experience... | 0:15:39 | 0:15:41 | |
-..that Oxford, for someone -from a wholly Welsh background... | 0:15:42 | 0:15:46 | |
-..can be a shock - the atmosphere, -the buildings, the people. | 0:15:46 | 0:15:50 | |
-Whilst frightening, -it's also exciting. | 0:15:51 | 0:15:54 | |
-It helped John Roberts -make a fundamental re-assessment. | 0:15:54 | 0:15:58 | |
-He does so in the company -of his young fellow countrymen. | 0:15:58 | 0:16:03 | |
-Among these is a respectable -new friend, John Jones. | 0:16:03 | 0:16:07 | |
-He's the nephew of the principal -of Jesus College - no danger there. | 0:16:07 | 0:16:12 | |
-But John Jones holds a secret. | 0:16:12 | 0:16:14 | |
-It's a dream, a plan even. | 0:16:15 | 0:16:17 | |
-He'll go to the college -in Douai to train as a priest. | 0:16:17 | 0:16:21 | |
-He'll return to bring back -the old faith to the old country. | 0:16:21 | 0:16:25 | |
-It's an exciting plan and captures -the imagination of John Roberts. | 0:16:25 | 0:16:30 | |
-But he treads carefully. | 0:16:35 | 0:16:37 | |
-He decides to leave Oxford. | 0:16:37 | 0:16:39 | |
-He continues his legal studies -at the Inns of Court in London. | 0:16:40 | 0:16:44 | |
-The law courts in London -are full of Catholics. | 0:16:44 | 0:16:48 | |
-Some say -that they're a "Hotbed of Popery." | 0:16:48 | 0:16:51 | |
-There's no way of avoiding religion. | 0:16:54 | 0:16:56 | |
-After pondering a while, -John Roberts hesitates no more. | 0:16:57 | 0:17:01 | |
-On a visit to Paris in 1598, -he disappoints his parents. | 0:17:03 | 0:17:08 | |
-Oxford, and all other plans for him, -are forsaken. | 0:17:09 | 0:17:12 | |
-He becomes a member -of the Church of Rome. | 0:17:13 | 0:17:16 | |
-He'd had a comfortable background -and a privileged education. | 0:17:16 | 0:17:21 | |
-After Oxford, -a promising career beckoned. | 0:17:21 | 0:17:24 | |
-But his heart takes him elsewhere. | 0:17:24 | 0:17:27 | |
-He decides not only on Catholicism -but also to become a priest. | 0:17:27 | 0:17:32 | |
-In that era, -this was not only dangerous... | 0:17:32 | 0:17:35 | |
-..but also in his case, ruinous. | 0:17:36 | 0:17:38 | |
-It's impossible to train -as a Catholic priest in Britain. | 0:17:51 | 0:17:56 | |
-But it's not to Douai in France, -nor to Rome, that John Roberts goes. | 0:17:59 | 0:18:04 | |
-Another John gives him some advice. | 0:18:04 | 0:18:06 | |
-He's John Cecil, a Welsh Catholic -influential in Parisian circles. | 0:18:07 | 0:18:13 | |
-He's told to come here -to Valladolid, in northern Spain. | 0:18:13 | 0:18:17 | |
-It's a far cry from Trawsfynydd. | 0:18:17 | 0:18:19 | |
-And yet, John Roberts -must feel quite at home. | 0:18:20 | 0:18:23 | |
-Others training with him here -are names like John Parry... | 0:18:23 | 0:18:27 | |
-..Roger Gwyn, Thomas Evans, -William Evans, John Pritchard... | 0:18:28 | 0:18:32 | |
-..and Thomas Price. | 0:18:33 | 0:18:35 | |
-This is a band of Welsh brothers -who have gathered here. | 0:18:35 | 0:18:39 | |
-They aim to restore Catholicism -in the old land of their fathers. | 0:18:39 | 0:18:44 | |
-But some things here in Spain -must seem alien to John Roberts... | 0:18:45 | 0:18:50 | |
-..and his new friends too. | 0:18:50 | 0:18:53 | |
-No, it's not the Ku Klux Klan... | 0:18:53 | 0:18:55 | |
-..even though that organization -has adapted this tradition... | 0:18:55 | 0:19:00 | |
-..for its own evil purposes. | 0:19:00 | 0:19:02 | |
-The Semana Santa procession -ahead of Easter week is different. | 0:19:02 | 0:19:07 | |
-To the faithful, the costume is -both demonstrative and concealing. | 0:19:07 | 0:19:12 | |
-The individual hides -behind the hood - the capirote. | 0:19:13 | 0:19:17 | |
-But he confesses -his sin and shame to everyone. | 0:19:17 | 0:19:20 | |
-Processions like this -take place every night... | 0:19:22 | 0:19:25 | |
-..between -Palm Sunday and Good Friday. | 0:19:26 | 0:19:28 | |
-It's an example -of the Catholic Church... | 0:19:29 | 0:19:31 | |
-..spreading the good news -about Jesus Christ. | 0:19:32 | 0:19:35 | |
-While Protestants lay emphasis -on the Word and the sermon... | 0:19:36 | 0:19:41 | |
-..the Catholic tradition -is on the visual and physical. | 0:19:41 | 0:19:45 | |
-A procession in the company -of a colourful sculpture... | 0:19:48 | 0:19:52 | |
-..deals with our basic need -to see and touch the faith. | 0:19:52 | 0:19:56 | |
-We don't wish only to hear about it. | 0:19:56 | 0:19:59 | |
-Lively Christian celebrations -would not have played a part... | 0:19:59 | 0:20:03 | |
-..in John Roberts's -Meirionnydd childhood... | 0:20:04 | 0:20:07 | |
-..but his grandparents would've seen -colour and noise as they worshipped. | 0:20:07 | 0:20:12 | |
-After all, Wales was famed -for its mass pilgrimages... | 0:20:21 | 0:20:25 | |
-..to sacred places and holy springs. | 0:20:25 | 0:20:28 | |
-Is this the religion John Roberts -dreams of restoring to Wales? | 0:20:31 | 0:20:35 | |
-Being a Welshman here -is not without its difficulties. | 0:20:43 | 0:20:47 | |
-This can be appreciated on a visit -to St Alban's College chapel... | 0:20:48 | 0:20:53 | |
-..where John Roberts -and his friends study. | 0:20:53 | 0:20:56 | |
-Here's the most famous statue, -an image of the Virgin Mary. | 0:20:57 | 0:21:01 | |
-It plays a key role -in the Semana Santa services. | 0:21:01 | 0:21:04 | |
-It's called La Vulnerata, -The Wounded One. | 0:21:04 | 0:21:09 | |
-The damage is not accidental. | 0:21:10 | 0:21:12 | |
-English soldiers -attacked it on purpose. | 0:21:12 | 0:21:15 | |
-They were raiding Cadiz port -at the time of the Armada. | 0:21:16 | 0:21:19 | |
-To the Spaniards, -it was an act of sheer vandalism. | 0:21:20 | 0:21:23 | |
-It showed a lack of respect -by British people to the religion. | 0:21:24 | 0:21:28 | |
-On coming to this college -to study for their vocation... | 0:21:28 | 0:21:32 | |
-..as Catholic students from -England and Wales still do... | 0:21:33 | 0:21:37 | |
-..the likes of John Roberts -needed to convince the Spaniards... | 0:21:37 | 0:21:42 | |
-..that they were totally sincere. | 0:21:43 | 0:21:45 | |
-Only 20 years previously... | 0:21:46 | 0:21:48 | |
-..the first students -had been arrested as English spies. | 0:21:48 | 0:21:52 | |
-The college is a new institution -in John Roberts' time. | 0:21:53 | 0:21:57 | |
-Fortunately, -for an ambitious student... | 0:21:57 | 0:22:00 | |
-..the resources here -compare favourably with Oxford. | 0:22:01 | 0:22:05 | |
-The college's collection of rare -volumes is a veritable treasure. | 0:22:07 | 0:22:11 | |
-All the learned works -of Europe are here. | 0:22:12 | 0:22:14 | |
-The son of Trawsfynydd, -with his able, independent mind... | 0:22:16 | 0:22:19 | |
-..proceeds -to scour the bookshelves. | 0:22:20 | 0:22:22 | |
-This library remains much -as it was in John Roberts' time. | 0:22:22 | 0:22:27 | |
-Some books are older than him. | 0:22:27 | 0:22:29 | |
-Here is the register book -with his signature on it. | 0:22:30 | 0:22:33 | |
-A rose is later drawn in the margin, -to mark the fact of his martyrdom. | 0:22:33 | 0:22:38 | |
-But John Roberts had to demonstrate -his true allegiance to the faith. | 0:22:39 | 0:22:44 | |
-He does so by declaring clearly -that he is the son of gentlefolk... | 0:22:44 | 0:22:49 | |
-..who, he says, -are Catholics in their hearts. | 0:22:49 | 0:22:53 | |
-Is that the truth -of the situation in Meirionnydd? | 0:22:53 | 0:22:58 | |
-A public acceptance -of the new religion... | 0:22:58 | 0:23:01 | |
-..but private adherence -to the old faith? | 0:23:02 | 0:23:04 | |
-Or is he describing his parents -as he would like them to be? | 0:23:05 | 0:23:09 | |
-Either way, John Roberts, -from the diocese of Bangor, Wales... | 0:23:13 | 0:23:19 | |
-..was serious about his religion. | 0:23:20 | 0:23:22 | |
-He states his determination -to labour in his Lord's vineyard. | 0:23:22 | 0:23:26 | |
-St Alban's College -is run by the Jesuits. | 0:23:34 | 0:23:36 | |
-The natural crowning glory -of his education by them.... | 0:23:37 | 0:23:41 | |
-..would be his return -to Britain as a priest. | 0:23:41 | 0:23:45 | |
-But despite solid Jesuit opposition -to Protestantism in Europe... | 0:23:45 | 0:23:51 | |
-..something is troubling -the young man. | 0:23:52 | 0:23:54 | |
-The Jesuits have decided -that most English and Welshmen... | 0:23:57 | 0:24:02 | |
-..are beyond the reach -of the Catholic Church. | 0:24:03 | 0:24:06 | |
-But here in Valladolid, -John Roberts believes differently. | 0:24:08 | 0:24:12 | |
-He thinks Catholics in Britain -should expect more than just comfort | 0:24:12 | 0:24:18 | |
-This is the capital city -of Spain at that time. | 0:24:18 | 0:24:22 | |
-Many grand churches -surround the royal palace. | 0:24:23 | 0:24:27 | |
-They state powerfully -that this is a Catholic country. | 0:24:28 | 0:24:31 | |
-Across the city -is the Order of St Benedict. | 0:24:32 | 0:24:35 | |
-It has a tradition of capturing -entire countries for the Pope. | 0:24:35 | 0:24:40 | |
-St Augustine, a son of the Order, -brought Christianity to England. | 0:24:41 | 0:24:45 | |
-The young man -now turns to that Order. | 0:24:46 | 0:24:48 | |
-John Roberts wants to help -the Benedictines in Britain. | 0:25:01 | 0:25:05 | |
-He wants to see a re-conversion. | 0:25:05 | 0:25:07 | |
-Confirming this for us is -the evidence of a spy, Lewis Owen. | 0:25:07 | 0:25:12 | |
-Lewis is also a Welsh speaker -from Meirionnydd and a Catholic. | 0:25:12 | 0:25:16 | |
-Out here in Valladolid, -he gets to know John Roberts well. | 0:25:16 | 0:25:21 | |
-But he's also a mole -for the authorities in London. | 0:25:21 | 0:25:24 | |
-It's starting to sound -like a novel by John Le Carre. | 0:25:25 | 0:25:28 | |
-The Jesuits send a report -to the Benedictines. | 0:25:31 | 0:25:34 | |
-It's a highly personal, -negative report about John Roberts. | 0:25:34 | 0:25:39 | |
-Why? -Is it their sincerely held opinion? | 0:25:39 | 0:25:42 | |
-Or are they bluffing? | 0:25:42 | 0:25:45 | |
-Are they trying -to hold on to a talented priest? | 0:25:45 | 0:25:48 | |
-Do they perhaps suspect Roberts -of being the London mole? | 0:25:48 | 0:25:53 | |
-This is suggested by Lewis Owen... | 0:25:53 | 0:25:56 | |
-..but remember, -he himself is the real spy. | 0:25:56 | 0:25:59 | |
-It's a game, but one player shines. | 0:25:59 | 0:26:02 | |
-John Roberts lays down -a challenge for the Benedictines. | 0:26:02 | 0:26:06 | |
-Send me back to the Jesuits, -he suggests. | 0:26:07 | 0:26:10 | |
-If they reject me, fair enough. | 0:26:10 | 0:26:12 | |
-But if I'm accepted back by them, -then obviously it's all a game. | 0:26:12 | 0:26:17 | |
-Of course, that's what happens. | 0:26:17 | 0:26:19 | |
-Lewis Owen chronicles it all -in his best English. | 0:26:20 | 0:26:23 | |
-"The Jesuits, perceiving how -they had been deceived by Roberts... | 0:26:23 | 0:26:28 | |
-"..never after spoke of him." | 0:26:28 | 0:26:30 | |
-It happens in all spy novels. | 0:26:38 | 0:26:40 | |
-There'll be a plucky female -who's something of an enigma. | 0:26:41 | 0:26:45 | |
-In this case, there's -no hint of a romantic liaison. | 0:26:46 | 0:26:50 | |
-However, John Roberts -chances upon such a lady. | 0:26:50 | 0:26:54 | |
-Dona Luisa de Carvajal. | 0:26:54 | 0:26:57 | |
-Dona Luisa is a noble lady. | 0:26:57 | 0:27:00 | |
-But here in Spain, she performs -simple favours for John Roberts. | 0:27:00 | 0:27:05 | |
-She prepares and cooks -tasty meals for him. | 0:27:05 | 0:27:08 | |
-And she shares a vision with him. | 0:27:08 | 0:27:11 | |
-She would also like to convert -his land back to the old faith. | 0:27:11 | 0:27:15 | |
-She will play an important role -at the end of his story... | 0:27:16 | 0:27:20 | |
-..when John Roberts -returns to London. | 0:27:20 | 0:27:23 | |
-John Roberts now begins -to turn his thoughts to Britain. | 0:27:23 | 0:27:28 | |
-His Benedictine training -is drawing to a close. | 0:27:28 | 0:27:31 | |
-He's Brother John of Meirionnydd -and knows there's hard work ahead. | 0:27:31 | 0:27:37 | |
-There's a whirl of activity -in the Semana Santa at Easter. | 0:27:47 | 0:27:51 | |
-It's an exciting event. | 0:27:51 | 0:27:53 | |
-But to every Catholic, -mass is central to the faith. | 0:27:54 | 0:27:58 | |
-It's where we meet Jesus, -in the bread and wine. | 0:27:58 | 0:28:02 | |
-But to celebrate mass -there must be a priest. | 0:28:02 | 0:28:05 | |
-It's essential that a priest -like John Roberts goes to Britain. | 0:28:11 | 0:28:16 | |
-His service is needed, -regardless of any personal danger. | 0:28:16 | 0:28:21 | |
-There can be no return -out in the open. | 0:28:21 | 0:28:24 | |
-Every port is watched by London. | 0:28:24 | 0:28:26 | |
-London listens to each whisper. | 0:28:27 | 0:28:29 | |
-Careful planning is needed -and it must all be top secret. | 0:28:29 | 0:28:34 | |
-The arrangements are made -by the Parisian contact, John Cecil. | 0:28:38 | 0:28:43 | |
-He had guided John Roberts -to Valladolid initially. | 0:28:43 | 0:28:47 | |
-At last, everything is ready. | 0:28:52 | 0:28:54 | |
-A sea captain in Calais -will take him across the Channel. | 0:28:54 | 0:28:58 | |
-John Roberts is ready to travel, -to slip back into Britain. | 0:28:59 | 0:29:03 | |
-The Great Mission is about to begin. | 0:29:05 | 0:29:08 | |
-To an extent, -just like the faithful here... | 0:29:10 | 0:29:13 | |
-..John Roberts disguises himself, -in order to serve his faith better. | 0:29:13 | 0:29:18 | |
-But the voyage has barely -commenced, when he senses danger. | 0:29:18 | 0:29:23 | |
-Someone on board the ship -knows his true identity. | 0:29:23 | 0:29:26 | |
-Is the game up before it's started? | 0:29:27 | 0:29:29 | |
-Or can John Roberts outfox -the world's most wily secret police? | 0:29:29 | 0:29:34 | |
-. | 0:29:44 | 0:29:44 | |
-888 | 0:29:47 | 0:29:47 | |
-888 - -888 | 0:29:47 | 0:29:49 | |
-Difficult questions arise tonight... | 0:29:51 | 0:29:54 | |
-..for the security services, -the police and the British navy. | 0:29:54 | 0:29:59 | |
-How come a man described to me -as a dangerous agent provocateur... | 0:29:59 | 0:30:03 | |
-..and a religious extremist, -has escaped from under their noses? | 0:30:04 | 0:30:08 | |
-They had after all -been watching this man for months. | 0:30:08 | 0:30:12 | |
-A government spokesman -has told me that he's confident... | 0:30:12 | 0:30:16 | |
-..that this man will be -apprehended in the next few days. | 0:30:17 | 0:30:21 | |
-There are strict security measures -in force. | 0:30:21 | 0:30:24 | |
-The message is to be on your guard. | 0:30:24 | 0:30:27 | |
-The year is 1603. | 0:30:28 | 0:30:32 | |
-John Roberts, -Brother John of Meirionnydd... | 0:30:32 | 0:30:35 | |
-..is on a secret sea voyage -from France back to Britain. | 0:30:35 | 0:30:39 | |
-It's been arranged by one known -to him since he became a Catholic. | 0:30:39 | 0:30:44 | |
-John Cecil is the fixer in Paris. | 0:30:44 | 0:30:47 | |
-He's smuggling Catholic priests -across the Channel... | 0:30:47 | 0:30:51 | |
-..to serve native Catholics -in Wales and England. | 0:30:51 | 0:30:55 | |
-John Roberts is anxious. -It's a dangerous mission. | 0:30:55 | 0:30:59 | |
-On boarding ship in Calais... | 0:30:59 | 0:31:01 | |
-..he starts to sense -he's not the only one in disguise. | 0:31:02 | 0:31:07 | |
-But it's now too late to do -anything but to rely upon... | 0:31:09 | 0:31:13 | |
-..the plan formulated -for him by his old ally in Paris. | 0:31:13 | 0:31:17 | |
-John Roberts didn't realize -that John Cecil was a double agent. | 0:31:20 | 0:31:24 | |
-He was a spy, who had warned -the authorities of the plan. | 0:31:24 | 0:31:29 | |
-This becomes apparent to him at sea. -John Roberts smells a rat. | 0:31:29 | 0:31:35 | |
-He realizes that, once ashore, -he's likely to be arrested. | 0:31:35 | 0:31:39 | |
-He needs to make an important -snap decision before docking. | 0:31:39 | 0:31:44 | |
-In the early hours, -with most on board asleep... | 0:31:47 | 0:31:51 | |
-...Brother John persuades -the captain to drop a rowing boat... | 0:31:51 | 0:31:56 | |
-..into the cold Channel waters, -just off the coast of Kent. | 0:31:56 | 0:32:01 | |
-It's a bold and courageous move. | 0:32:01 | 0:32:03 | |
-He escapes adventurously -from under the noses of the police. | 0:32:03 | 0:32:08 | |
-Next day, of course, -the captain denies all. | 0:32:10 | 0:32:13 | |
-He insists that, in the darkness, -a man must have fallen overboard. | 0:32:13 | 0:32:18 | |
-This is a temporary reprieve -for John Roberts. | 0:32:19 | 0:32:22 | |
-The reality is that he's chosen -to return to London at a bad time. | 0:32:23 | 0:32:27 | |
-Elizabeth is on her death bed -and who'll succeed her is unclear. | 0:32:27 | 0:32:32 | |
-Catholics face an uncertain fate -under the new monarch. | 0:32:32 | 0:32:36 | |
-John Roberts hastens to visit -the prisons of London. | 0:32:38 | 0:32:42 | |
-He's sure to meet -many prominent Catholics there. | 0:32:42 | 0:32:47 | |
-Cecil and his gang know that too. | 0:32:47 | 0:32:50 | |
-Roberts is very soon arrested. | 0:32:50 | 0:32:52 | |
-But the new monarch, -King James, declares an amnesty. | 0:32:53 | 0:32:56 | |
-John Roberts is merely exiled, -across the Channel to Calais. | 0:32:57 | 0:33:01 | |
-He's soon in London again. | 0:33:01 | 0:33:03 | |
-Fearlessly, he cares for the sick -as the Plague strikes. | 0:33:03 | 0:33:07 | |
-He's well known -to the authorities by now. | 0:33:08 | 0:33:11 | |
-But his youthful looks allow him -to escape on one occasion. | 0:33:11 | 0:33:15 | |
-The Crown officers can't believe -they've captured the criminal. | 0:33:15 | 0:33:20 | |
-"This cannot be Mr Roberts, -the notorious Benedictine monk." | 0:33:21 | 0:33:24 | |
-Those were their words. | 0:33:25 | 0:33:26 | |
-He gets away this time. | 0:33:26 | 0:33:29 | |
-In general, however, the grip -tightens on Catholic lives. | 0:33:30 | 0:33:34 | |
-James I, through the Parliament -in Westminster... | 0:33:34 | 0:33:39 | |
-..uses the full force -of the law against them. | 0:33:39 | 0:33:42 | |
-It's a time of crisis. | 0:33:42 | 0:33:44 | |
-A group of stalwarts decides -that it's time for action. | 0:33:46 | 0:33:49 | |
-Catholics can't go about -their daily business... | 0:33:50 | 0:33:53 | |
-..let alone practise their religion. | 0:33:54 | 0:33:56 | |
-They believe the faith -can only survive by a revolution. | 0:33:57 | 0:34:00 | |
-The plotters insist on targeting -the very heart of the state... | 0:34:01 | 0:34:06 | |
-..despite the police's eagle eye. | 0:34:07 | 0:34:09 | |
-They'll take action against the King -and his Protestant Parliament... | 0:34:09 | 0:34:14 | |
-..in the most explosive -manner imaginable. | 0:34:15 | 0:34:18 | |
-We still remember the name -of one of the plotters. | 0:34:19 | 0:34:22 | |
-Guy Fawkes. | 0:34:22 | 0:34:23 | |
-The plot failed, as we know. | 0:34:24 | 0:34:26 | |
-But on Guy Fawkes' night itself, -the fifth of November, 1605... | 0:34:27 | 0:34:31 | |
-..John Roberts is arrested in -Holborn, at the home of a Mrs Percy. | 0:34:31 | 0:34:36 | |
-She's the wife of one -of Guy Fawkes's fellow plotters. | 0:34:36 | 0:34:40 | |
-It's most unfortunate -for John Roberts. | 0:34:40 | 0:34:43 | |
-Any wise man -who knew of the plot... | 0:34:43 | 0:34:46 | |
-..would have kept clear -of Mrs Percy that night. | 0:34:46 | 0:34:49 | |
-BIG BEN CHIMES | 0:34:50 | 0:34:53 | |
-Miraculously, -the record of arrest still exists. | 0:34:54 | 0:34:58 | |
-It's extremely interesting. | 0:34:58 | 0:35:00 | |
-By all accounts, John Roberts -arrived wearing riding boots. | 0:35:01 | 0:35:05 | |
-With him were two other Welshmen. | 0:35:05 | 0:35:08 | |
-One was John Evans, -the other was an innkeeper. | 0:35:08 | 0:35:11 | |
-"The host of the Swan of Abersoch." | 0:35:11 | 0:35:14 | |
-Maybe he'd planned to celebrate -a Welsh mass for London Catholics. | 0:35:14 | 0:35:19 | |
-BIG BEN CHIMES | 0:35:20 | 0:35:22 | |
-The faithful few are now -under more scrutiny than ever... | 0:35:22 | 0:35:28 | |
-..by government inspectors. | 0:35:28 | 0:35:30 | |
-Priests, including John Roberts, -are imprisoned and then deported. | 0:35:30 | 0:35:35 | |
-John Roberts returns again in 1607. | 0:35:37 | 0:35:40 | |
-He's arrested, but refuses -to swear the oath of allegiance. | 0:35:40 | 0:35:45 | |
-For that reason, he's thrown -into the Gatehouse Prison. | 0:35:45 | 0:35:49 | |
-Its location was here, -very close to Westminster Abbey. | 0:35:49 | 0:35:53 | |
-It was a dark and horrific place. | 0:35:54 | 0:35:57 | |
-His spirits must have been low... | 0:35:59 | 0:36:02 | |
-..as he reflected -on its notoriously cruel reputation. | 0:36:02 | 0:36:06 | |
-Inventively though, -he hatched an escape plan. | 0:36:06 | 0:36:10 | |
-He was more like -James Bond than a saint! | 0:36:10 | 0:36:13 | |
-FRENCH ACCORDION MUSIC | 0:36:14 | 0:36:15 | |
-He manages to flee to France. | 0:36:17 | 0:36:19 | |
-He'd broken through his cell bars. | 0:36:19 | 0:36:22 | |
-There, in Douai, under much more -pleasant surroundings... | 0:36:22 | 0:36:26 | |
-..he establishes -a dedicated Benedictine college. | 0:36:27 | 0:36:31 | |
-His old Oxford friend, -John Jones, is there to help. | 0:36:31 | 0:36:34 | |
-The dream started by the two -Welshmen at St John's College... | 0:36:37 | 0:36:41 | |
-..is realized at long last. | 0:36:42 | 0:36:44 | |
-France has fed us, -body and soul, through the ages. | 0:36:46 | 0:36:50 | |
-In John Roberts's day, -Douai becomes an important centre. | 0:36:50 | 0:36:54 | |
-It trains and exports priests. | 0:36:54 | 0:36:57 | |
-But it's also in France -that a ruinous blow is struck... | 0:36:58 | 0:37:02 | |
-..for Catholics in Britain, -and it's caused by a mad monk. | 0:37:02 | 0:37:06 | |
-He murders the King of France, -which scares James I. | 0:37:06 | 0:37:11 | |
-He fears the same thing -could happen in London. | 0:37:11 | 0:37:14 | |
-All Catholics are ordered -to leave, in a month. | 0:37:14 | 0:37:17 | |
-But in 1610, the Plague -reappears in London. | 0:37:19 | 0:37:23 | |
-John Roberts knows for certain -that England's secret police... | 0:37:23 | 0:37:27 | |
-..are set to capture and kill him... | 0:37:28 | 0:37:30 | |
-..nobody can stop him from leaving -the security of his college... | 0:37:30 | 0:37:35 | |
-..for the final time. | 0:37:35 | 0:37:37 | |
-John Roberts has a fearful dilemma. | 0:37:39 | 0:37:42 | |
-It's obvious if he stays in London, -he'll endanger his life. | 0:37:42 | 0:37:46 | |
-He doesn't worry about that. | 0:37:46 | 0:37:48 | |
-And yet choosing to die -is against Catholic belief. | 0:37:49 | 0:37:52 | |
-It's a sin, -and John Roberts knows this. | 0:37:52 | 0:37:55 | |
-But if death's inevitable -in the name of the faith... | 0:37:55 | 0:37:59 | |
-..that would be martyrdom, -a hard choice. | 0:37:59 | 0:38:02 | |
-There's little time left, -and the end is near. | 0:38:02 | 0:38:06 | |
-On the second of December, -John Roberts is with Mrs Percy. | 0:38:08 | 0:38:12 | |
-We know what happens next. | 0:38:12 | 0:38:14 | |
-A special police unit -swooped to arrest this man. | 0:38:14 | 0:38:18 | |
-They've described him -as a dangerous religious extremist. | 0:38:18 | 0:38:22 | |
-He's a man whose aim was -to undermine our way of life. | 0:38:22 | 0:38:26 | |
-His allegiance -is to a foreign power and faith. | 0:38:26 | 0:38:30 | |
-This time, even though -his fellow prisoners are so bold... | 0:38:31 | 0:38:35 | |
-..as to make a hole -in his cell wall... | 0:38:35 | 0:38:38 | |
-..he does not make his escape. | 0:38:38 | 0:38:40 | |
-Has he had enough -of his fugitive life? | 0:38:40 | 0:38:44 | |
-Certainly, -it's been a huge strain on him. | 0:38:44 | 0:38:47 | |
-There's also evidence -that he isn't well. | 0:38:48 | 0:38:51 | |
-Or was John Roberts -being tempted.... | 0:38:51 | 0:38:53 | |
-..by notions -of sacrifice and immortality? | 0:38:53 | 0:38:57 | |
-There was now -no turning back, for sure. | 0:38:57 | 0:39:00 | |
-The final test is about to commence. | 0:39:00 | 0:39:02 | |
-. | 0:39:02 | 0:39:03 | |
-888 | 0:39:05 | 0:39:05 | |
-888 - -888 | 0:39:05 | 0:39:07 | |
-There's been -a sensational development. | 0:39:08 | 0:39:11 | |
-It happened at the start -of this long awaited hearing. | 0:39:12 | 0:39:15 | |
-The Defendant is accused -of conspiracy and treason. | 0:39:16 | 0:39:19 | |
-It's claimed he's -a dangerous religious extremist. | 0:39:20 | 0:39:23 | |
-The judge had just arrived, -and the prosecutor was challenged... | 0:39:24 | 0:39:29 | |
-..to prove that -the correct man was in the dock. | 0:39:29 | 0:39:32 | |
-Plainly, this man knows the law. | 0:39:32 | 0:39:35 | |
-The session -had to be adjourned immediately. | 0:39:35 | 0:39:38 | |
-The Lord Chief Justice -is now consulting with other judges. | 0:39:38 | 0:39:42 | |
-They're among -the most experienced in the land. | 0:39:43 | 0:39:46 | |
-A ruling needs to be made. | 0:39:46 | 0:39:48 | |
-This will be a highly complex -but very interesting case. | 0:39:48 | 0:39:52 | |
-The hearing continues. | 0:39:52 | 0:39:54 | |
-It's an intellectual contest -between the Lord Chief Justice... | 0:39:55 | 0:40:01 | |
-..and a former law student. | 0:40:01 | 0:40:03 | |
-Both argue fiercely in Court, -as they face each other. | 0:40:03 | 0:40:07 | |
-The Defendant opens on the attack. | 0:40:07 | 0:40:10 | |
-Say what you will, but don't lie. | 0:40:10 | 0:40:13 | |
-Far better had you stayed -in your church or palace. | 0:40:13 | 0:40:17 | |
-Be with your fellow priests... | 0:40:17 | 0:40:19 | |
-..and not here deciding -who's to live and who's to die. | 0:40:20 | 0:40:24 | |
-By law, this is a balanced hearing. | 0:40:24 | 0:40:27 | |
-Examination and cross-examination. | 0:40:27 | 0:40:30 | |
-The authorities need to show -their willingness to debate. | 0:40:30 | 0:40:34 | |
-A strong element -of political theatre also prevailed. | 0:40:34 | 0:40:38 | |
-In that context, -John Roberts performed admirably. | 0:40:39 | 0:40:43 | |
-With his life at stake, and under -gruelling cross-examination... | 0:40:43 | 0:40:49 | |
-..he responded -astutely and charismatically. | 0:40:49 | 0:40:53 | |
-We have the original transcript. | 0:40:53 | 0:40:56 | |
-John Roberts refuses -to swear allegiance to the King... | 0:40:57 | 0:41:01 | |
-..as the head of the Church. | 0:41:01 | 0:41:03 | |
-The Defendant argues he's loyal -to his faith and his country. | 0:41:04 | 0:41:08 | |
-The law as it stands... | 0:41:08 | 0:41:10 | |
-..being a Catholic priest -is itself treason. | 0:41:10 | 0:41:14 | |
-To John Roberts, -this is totally unjust. | 0:41:15 | 0:41:18 | |
-To show the Crown's real agenda... | 0:41:18 | 0:41:22 | |
-..he no longer insists on proof -that a priest is in the dock. | 0:41:22 | 0:41:27 | |
-My Lord, -I see clearly what you want. | 0:41:27 | 0:41:31 | |
-I want your wish to be realized. | 0:41:31 | 0:41:33 | |
-I'm a priest, a simple monk -from the Order of St Benedict. | 0:41:33 | 0:41:37 | |
-If you wish to take advantage -of that, do so by all means. | 0:41:37 | 0:41:41 | |
-Feel free to do as you wish. | 0:41:41 | 0:41:43 | |
-The prosecution alleges -that a priest's work is deceit. | 0:41:44 | 0:41:48 | |
-John Roberts cites the name of -the founder of the English Church. | 0:41:48 | 0:41:52 | |
-If I am deceitful, my Lord, -it follows that all our ancestors... | 0:41:52 | 0:41:58 | |
-..were deceived -by the blessed St Augustine. | 0:41:58 | 0:42:01 | |
-He converted all these countries. | 0:42:02 | 0:42:04 | |
-It's the same faith -that I now proclaim. | 0:42:04 | 0:42:07 | |
-With Augustine and John Roberts -both being of the Benedictines... | 0:42:07 | 0:42:12 | |
-..it's hard to resist his argument. | 0:42:13 | 0:42:15 | |
-The Bishop of London, who also sits -on the bench, tries to silence him. | 0:42:15 | 0:42:20 | |
-I insist on speaking, I insist, -as my mission is from Heaven. | 0:42:20 | 0:42:25 | |
-Matthew states, "Go and make -disciples of all the nations. | 0:42:25 | 0:42:30 | |
-"Baptize them and teach them to -abide by the Lord's commands." | 0:42:30 | 0:42:35 | |
-Your ministers don't do that -by their lives or their acts. | 0:42:35 | 0:42:40 | |
-They don't obey God's commands. | 0:42:40 | 0:42:43 | |
-That is what I am doing. | 0:42:43 | 0:42:45 | |
-I teach princes too, -to be obedient to His commands... | 0:42:45 | 0:42:49 | |
-..and reject Luther's falsehoods. | 0:42:49 | 0:42:51 | |
-Such plain and eloquent talk -is too much for those on the bench. | 0:42:52 | 0:42:56 | |
-Only one verdict is now possible. | 0:42:56 | 0:43:00 | |
-John Roberts understands perfectly. | 0:43:00 | 0:43:03 | |
-He takes pity on the jury members. | 0:43:04 | 0:43:06 | |
-He asks the Judge very kindly -to release them from their duties. | 0:43:06 | 0:43:11 | |
-They needn't feel responsible -for taking his life. | 0:43:11 | 0:43:15 | |
-I have accomplished -what was in my power to do. | 0:43:15 | 0:43:18 | |
-It was little, only an attempt -to rescue this country from heresy. | 0:43:19 | 0:43:24 | |
-It's now a matter for you, my Lord, -to decide if that is treason. | 0:43:24 | 0:43:28 | |
-The verdict? | 0:43:29 | 0:43:31 | |
-Guilty. | 0:43:32 | 0:43:33 | |
-The sentence? Death. | 0:43:35 | 0:43:38 | |
-The Defendant's reaction? | 0:43:39 | 0:43:42 | |
-Blessed certainty. | 0:43:43 | 0:43:45 | |
-If I had ten thousand lives... | 0:43:45 | 0:43:47 | |
-..and each one more dear -to me than the one I have... | 0:43:48 | 0:43:51 | |
-..I would give them all up -for this cause. | 0:43:51 | 0:43:56 | |
-SACRED CHORAL MUSIC | 0:43:56 | 0:43:58 | |
-The end is coming. There's no -unexpected escape this time. | 0:44:05 | 0:44:10 | |
-But a comforting miracle -of sorts occurs. | 0:44:10 | 0:44:13 | |
-The news spreads fast. | 0:44:14 | 0:44:16 | |
-His old friend from Spain, -Dona Luisa, rushes to the prison... | 0:44:16 | 0:44:20 | |
-..on the eve of his execution. | 0:44:20 | 0:44:23 | |
-She persuades the guard -to allow her in... | 0:44:26 | 0:44:28 | |
-..and to let her prepare -a last supper for John Roberts. | 0:44:29 | 0:44:33 | |
-They talk of better days -spent in Valladolid. | 0:44:33 | 0:44:36 | |
-The food's tasty, -and Brother John is in good heart... | 0:44:36 | 0:44:40 | |
-..as he nears his journey's end. | 0:44:40 | 0:44:43 | |
-After his death, Dona Luisa will -send the martyr's remains to Europe. | 0:44:43 | 0:44:48 | |
-They'll be holy relics, inspiring -Catholics for centuries to come. | 0:44:48 | 0:44:53 | |
-Before then, at daybreak, -the gallows must be faced. | 0:44:58 | 0:45:02 | |
-There's no shame for him here. | 0:45:03 | 0:45:07 | |
-The Crown tries to suggest so, -by hanging ordinary convicts too. | 0:45:07 | 0:45:12 | |
-John Roberts worries about being -a fitting witness to his faith. | 0:45:13 | 0:45:19 | |
-Would the agony -of hanging, drawing, quartering... | 0:45:21 | 0:45:24 | |
-..and pain after pain after pain... | 0:45:24 | 0:45:27 | |
-..eventually be too much -even for his faith? | 0:45:27 | 0:45:30 | |
-Much blood has been shed -in this city over the centuries. | 0:45:34 | 0:45:38 | |
-On that cold, misty morning, -as John Roberts faces the gallows... | 0:45:39 | 0:45:43 | |
-..a small crowd gathers -to watch the show. | 0:45:44 | 0:45:47 | |
-The intention is to execute him -along with 16 Protestants. | 0:45:47 | 0:45:51 | |
-Even in this horrific situation... | 0:45:51 | 0:45:54 | |
-..he succeeds in persuading -one man to go back to the old faith. | 0:45:54 | 0:45:58 | |
-After that, he turns to the crowd. | 0:45:58 | 0:46:01 | |
-He insists to them that treason -is not the reason for his death. | 0:46:01 | 0:46:06 | |
-It's simply for being a Benedictine -priest, just as St Augustine was. | 0:46:06 | 0:46:11 | |
-His last words were -"One God, one faith. | 0:46:12 | 0:46:15 | |
-"Without that faith, -God cannot be pleased." | 0:46:15 | 0:46:18 | |
-And, at last, the end has come. | 0:46:19 | 0:46:22 | |
-The crowd by now -is very supportive of John Roberts. | 0:46:23 | 0:46:27 | |
-The Sheriff issues -an order to his officers. | 0:46:27 | 0:46:30 | |
-They are not to cut his body -in pieces until satisfied... | 0:46:31 | 0:46:35 | |
-..that his soul has departed -to a better place. | 0:46:35 | 0:46:38 | |
-As is customary, the executioner -shouts "God Save the King." | 0:46:38 | 0:46:43 | |
-Hardly anyone responds "Amen". | 0:46:43 | 0:46:45 | |
-SACRED CHORAL MUSIC | 0:46:46 | 0:46:48 | |
-John Roberts's body was never -returned to his homeland. | 0:47:08 | 0:47:12 | |
-The Martyr of Meirionnydd -is still remembered in our time... | 0:47:12 | 0:47:16 | |
-..both locally and nationally. | 0:47:16 | 0:47:18 | |
-In 1970, after careful reflection, -the Church issues a statement. | 0:47:20 | 0:47:26 | |
-John Roberts -is canonized as a saint. | 0:47:26 | 0:47:29 | |
-This year, he'll be commemorated -in Wales, England and abroad. | 0:47:29 | 0:47:33 | |
-It's the 400th anniversary -of his martyrdom. | 0:47:34 | 0:47:37 | |
-In Meirionnydd, a saint's trail -for visitors is now established. | 0:47:37 | 0:47:42 | |
-He didn't live to see... | 0:47:42 | 0:47:44 | |
-..the end of the year 1610. | 0:47:45 | 0:47:47 | |
-But here in Rhiw Goch, -under Crown patronage... | 0:47:47 | 0:47:51 | |
-..his rich cousin Robert Lloyd... | 0:47:51 | 0:47:53 | |
-..had extended his luxury mansion. | 0:47:54 | 0:47:57 | |
-He seemed certain -of his own place in history. | 0:47:58 | 0:48:01 | |
-He inscribed the date for posterity. | 0:48:02 | 0:48:04 | |
-He's still remembered now... | 0:48:04 | 0:48:06 | |
-..because of his cousin. | 0:48:06 | 0:48:08 | |
-The urge to become famous -is not uncommon. | 0:48:10 | 0:48:13 | |
-Contemporary celebs -become famous overnight... | 0:48:13 | 0:48:17 | |
-..with little real substance. | 0:48:17 | 0:48:19 | |
-For others, it's recognition -for achieving a great feat. | 0:48:19 | 0:48:23 | |
-It may reflect -a heroic strength of personality. | 0:48:24 | 0:48:27 | |
-But martyrdom is very unusual. | 0:48:27 | 0:48:29 | |
-There's no recognition -for the martyr. | 0:48:30 | 0:48:32 | |
-He's no longer in this world -to acknowledge it. | 0:48:33 | 0:48:36 | |
-His goal is everlasting life. | 0:48:36 | 0:48:38 | |
-We're left asking ourselves -a fundamental question. | 0:48:38 | 0:48:42 | |
-Is there anything -in life worth dying for? | 0:48:43 | 0:48:46 | |
-If there isn't, -what is the value of life itself? | 0:48:46 | 0:48:49 | |
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