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-Richard III, the King of England, -was killed in August 1485. | 0:00:04 | 0:00:09 | |
-Henry Tudor became -King in his place. | 0:00:09 | 0:00:12 | |
-Did a Welshman kill the old King? | 0:00:12 | 0:00:14 | |
-As an archaeologist and historian... | 0:00:15 | 0:00:18 | |
-..I have a big interest -in this Welshman's story... | 0:00:18 | 0:00:21 | |
-..which had been -forgotten by history until now. | 0:00:21 | 0:00:24 | |
-Bosworth, in the English Midlands. | 0:00:38 | 0:00:40 | |
-On 22 August 1485... | 0:00:41 | 0:00:43 | |
-..one of Britain's most famous -battles happened here. | 0:00:43 | 0:00:47 | |
-It was a battle that would change -the course of history. | 0:00:47 | 0:00:51 | |
-If it wasn't for this battle, -Elizabeth Windsor wouldn't be Queen. | 0:00:51 | 0:00:55 | |
-It's a battle that changed -thousands of lives. | 0:00:55 | 0:00:59 | |
-Three specifically, -Richard III, the King who died... | 0:00:59 | 0:01:04 | |
-..Henry Tudor, -the man who deposed him as King... | 0:01:04 | 0:01:07 | |
-..and a Welsh speaker from -the Llandeilo area, Rhys ap Thomas. | 0:01:08 | 0:01:13 | |
-We'll look at the evidence -that suggests Rhys ap Thomas... | 0:01:18 | 0:01:21 | |
-..was responsible -for Richard III's death. | 0:01:22 | 0:01:24 | |
-Rhys lived to be an old man. | 0:01:24 | 0:01:26 | |
-At the end of his life, as though -he repented for some things... | 0:01:26 | 0:01:31 | |
-..he went to the Greyfriars -in Carmarthen to die. | 0:01:31 | 0:01:34 | |
-Like many great powers -before and after him... | 0:01:36 | 0:01:40 | |
-..there may have been -some things on his mind. | 0:01:40 | 0:01:43 | |
-"I love the dubbed knight -of Carmarthen | 0:01:49 | 0:01:51 | |
-"The hawk of the fortress -of gold and wine is loved by all | 0:01:51 | 0:01:55 | |
-"I have loved Sir Rhys -and why would I not love him? | 0:01:56 | 0:01:59 | |
-"He is the love -of all the land of the South | 0:01:59 | 0:02:02 | |
-"I never saw a better man | 0:02:02 | 0:02:06 | |
-"Nor his equal in his castle" | 0:02:06 | 0:02:09 | |
-The bard Guto'r Glyn's words to me -were very generous. | 0:02:09 | 0:02:14 | |
-Are the words of bards empty? | 0:02:15 | 0:02:18 | |
-Is the truth to be found -between the lines? | 0:02:18 | 0:02:22 | |
-I've lived -for three quarters of a century. | 0:02:24 | 0:02:27 | |
-I now face the same hell -I created for many. | 0:02:27 | 0:02:31 | |
-It's easy to be intoxicated -by power and status. | 0:02:33 | 0:02:36 | |
-Or by tasting -blood and fear in battle. | 0:02:37 | 0:02:40 | |
-In here, in this little head... | 0:02:42 | 0:02:46 | |
-..I feel the sting of sobriety -and its truth. | 0:02:46 | 0:02:50 | |
-It's like a spear on flesh. | 0:02:51 | 0:02:53 | |
-Let's head back to Bosworth. | 0:03:00 | 0:03:01 | |
-By 1485, Richard III had been King -for almost two years. | 0:03:02 | 0:03:06 | |
-He was 32 years old. | 0:03:06 | 0:03:09 | |
-The Battle of Bosworth brought -an end to a century of fighting... | 0:03:09 | 0:03:15 | |
-..between the House of York -with its white rose... | 0:03:15 | 0:03:18 | |
-..and the House of Lancaster -with its red rose. | 0:03:19 | 0:03:21 | |
-It's hard for us to imagine -this kind of fighting... | 0:03:22 | 0:03:25 | |
-..amongst family these days. | 0:03:25 | 0:03:27 | |
-Power, status and money were -integral parts of being king. | 0:03:27 | 0:03:31 | |
-Every noble family -wanted a share of that. | 0:03:31 | 0:03:35 | |
-The question was raised, -who has the right for the crown? | 0:03:38 | 0:03:41 | |
-This was during -the Wars of the Roses... | 0:03:41 | 0:03:44 | |
-..where there was a struggle -for the English crown. | 0:03:44 | 0:03:47 | |
-A lot of families found it hard -to choose which side to support. | 0:03:48 | 0:03:54 | |
-If someone were -to make the wrong choice... | 0:03:54 | 0:03:57 | |
-..they could pay a terrible price. | 0:03:57 | 0:03:59 | |
-It's important to remember -that Owain Glyndwr's revolt... | 0:04:01 | 0:04:05 | |
-..had a huge effect on England's -relationship with Wales. | 0:04:05 | 0:04:08 | |
-The revolt ended in 1415. | 0:04:08 | 0:04:11 | |
-But its memory was very much alive. | 0:04:11 | 0:04:14 | |
-The Welsh suffered under strict laws -because of the revolt. | 0:04:15 | 0:04:19 | |
-They were unhappy -with the situation. | 0:04:20 | 0:04:22 | |
-The failure of that revolt was key. | 0:04:24 | 0:04:28 | |
-Many families, the nobility -amongst them, and commoners... | 0:04:29 | 0:04:33 | |
-Both the nobility and commoners -took part in the revolt. | 0:04:33 | 0:04:37 | |
-They'd come together to fight -for principles and ideals. | 0:04:37 | 0:04:42 | |
-They wanted to promote one of -their own to Prince of Wales. | 0:04:43 | 0:04:47 | |
-They wanted a Wales which was -politically independent of England. | 0:04:47 | 0:04:53 | |
-For a member of the Welsh nobility -to progress in the world... | 0:04:53 | 0:04:59 | |
-..he would, -to all intents and purposes... | 0:04:59 | 0:05:02 | |
-..have to prove he was English. | 0:05:02 | 0:05:04 | |
-One family who wanted a taste of -power and freedom in South Wales... | 0:05:05 | 0:05:09 | |
-..despite not being -from noble descent... | 0:05:10 | 0:05:12 | |
-..was the family of Rhys ap Thomas. | 0:05:12 | 0:05:14 | |
-I'm at Dinefwr Castle placed -on a rock above the Tywi river. | 0:05:17 | 0:05:21 | |
-The family home -of Sir Rhys ap Thomas. | 0:05:21 | 0:05:24 | |
-In terms of importance -in Welsh history... | 0:05:25 | 0:05:27 | |
-..this is one of the courts -of Lord Rhys, Rhys ap Gruffydd. | 0:05:27 | 0:05:31 | |
-He is famous for organizing -the first Eisteddfod in 1176. | 0:05:31 | 0:05:36 | |
-Two centuries later, -the descendants of Lord Rhys... | 0:05:43 | 0:05:46 | |
-..were not so prominent -in Welsh history. | 0:05:46 | 0:05:49 | |
-One man from this area -was eager to get on in the world. | 0:05:49 | 0:05:53 | |
-That man was Gruffydd ap Nicholas, -Rhys ap Thomas' grandfather. | 0:05:53 | 0:05:57 | |
-Gruffydd married a girl -from Lord Rhys' line in Dinefwr. | 0:05:57 | 0:06:01 | |
-He was a bit of a chancer. | 0:06:03 | 0:06:05 | |
-He was a bit of -a Del Boy of his time. | 0:06:06 | 0:06:08 | |
-He became quite wealthy... | 0:06:08 | 0:06:10 | |
-..due to a lot of -spurious activities he carried on... | 0:06:10 | 0:06:14 | |
-..around Carmarthenshire. | 0:06:14 | 0:06:15 | |
-There were opportunities. | 0:06:16 | 0:06:18 | |
-If a member of the Welsh nobility -saw one and went for it... | 0:06:18 | 0:06:21 | |
-..they could collect duties -and become influential over time. | 0:06:21 | 0:06:25 | |
-They could buy land -and marry into land too. | 0:06:25 | 0:06:29 | |
-Gruffydd ap Nicholas -was incredibly effective at that. | 0:06:30 | 0:06:33 | |
-Gruffydd went on to win favours -and rights on lands in Carmarthen... | 0:06:38 | 0:06:42 | |
-..Cardigan, Aberystwyth, Dinefwr, -Carreg Cennen. | 0:06:42 | 0:06:45 | |
-He was very loyal to the King. | 0:06:46 | 0:06:48 | |
-While his patrons were in power, -he did well. | 0:06:49 | 0:06:52 | |
-We learn about Gruffydd ap Nicholas -and his family... | 0:06:55 | 0:06:58 | |
-..from the work of poets. | 0:06:59 | 0:07:00 | |
-For the most part, -the nobles at the time... | 0:07:01 | 0:07:04 | |
-..were praised by bards -for being soldiers. | 0:07:04 | 0:07:08 | |
-In Gruffydd ap Nicholas' case, it's -obvious he was a gifted soldier. | 0:07:09 | 0:07:13 | |
-It isn't a stereotype in his case. | 0:07:13 | 0:07:17 | |
-What's important to remember -about this period... | 0:07:18 | 0:07:21 | |
-..is the importance of bards. | 0:07:21 | 0:07:23 | |
-They were a propaganda machine. | 0:07:23 | 0:07:25 | |
-It's not surprising -Gruffydd ap Nicholas... | 0:07:26 | 0:07:28 | |
-..held a large Eisteddfod -in the centre of Carmarthen... | 0:07:29 | 0:07:32 | |
-..during the 15th century. | 0:07:32 | 0:07:34 | |
-Dafydd ab Edmwnd was responsible. | 0:07:34 | 0:07:36 | |
-They managed to discuss -and agree on rules... | 0:07:37 | 0:07:39 | |
-..for cynghanedd -and strict metre poetry. | 0:07:40 | 0:07:42 | |
-Those rules are almost -unchanged since then. | 0:07:42 | 0:07:46 | |
-However, it was a period -of fighting. | 0:07:46 | 0:07:48 | |
-A very uncertain period. | 0:07:49 | 0:07:51 | |
-According to some, Gruffydd ap -Nicholas was killed in 1461... | 0:07:51 | 0:07:55 | |
-..at the Battle of Mortimer's Cross -near Hereford. | 0:07:55 | 0:07:58 | |
-This was a battle between Yorkists -and Lancastrians. | 0:07:58 | 0:08:02 | |
-Gruffydd supported Owen Tudor... | 0:08:02 | 0:08:04 | |
-..and his son Jasper Tudor -on the Lancastrian side. | 0:08:05 | 0:08:08 | |
-They lost. Gruffydd died -and Owen Tudor was executed. | 0:08:09 | 0:08:14 | |
-Jasper Tudor escaped. | 0:08:14 | 0:08:17 | |
-A year later, the Yorkists -attacked Carreg Cennen Castle. | 0:08:19 | 0:08:22 | |
-Rhys' family were responsible -for rebuilding the castle. | 0:08:22 | 0:08:26 | |
-Rhys and his father Thomas -had to surrender and flee Wales... | 0:08:26 | 0:08:30 | |
-..to the court of Philip the Good, -the Duke of Burgundy. | 0:08:30 | 0:08:34 | |
-My conscience is troubling me -but my memories are mixed. | 0:08:46 | 0:08:51 | |
-Some of them joyful. | 0:08:52 | 0:08:54 | |
-Philip's court in Burgundy. -What a place. | 0:08:55 | 0:09:00 | |
-It was full of culture and arts. | 0:09:00 | 0:09:02 | |
-The emphasis was learning -to behave nobly. | 0:09:04 | 0:09:07 | |
-Learning about European culture... | 0:09:07 | 0:09:09 | |
-..and also the continent's methods -of fighting. | 0:09:09 | 0:09:13 | |
-I was so young, -yet so eager to learn. | 0:09:14 | 0:09:18 | |
-And learn I did. | 0:09:19 | 0:09:21 | |
-Philip had a system of training -that came from the idea... | 0:09:24 | 0:09:27 | |
-..of the Knights -of the Golden Fleece. | 0:09:27 | 0:09:30 | |
-It was similar to the idea... | 0:09:31 | 0:09:32 | |
-..of the Knights of the Round Table -with King Arthur. | 0:09:32 | 0:09:36 | |
-The history of King Arthur -fills me with awe. | 0:09:36 | 0:09:38 | |
-The bards see me in that tradition. | 0:09:39 | 0:09:41 | |
-The court of Philip was one of -the most renowned courts in Europe. | 0:09:42 | 0:09:47 | |
-It was the best court in Europe. | 0:09:47 | 0:09:49 | |
-It knocked everything -into a cocked hat, everything else. | 0:09:49 | 0:09:53 | |
-It was based on the knightly virtues -of chivalry and honour. | 0:09:53 | 0:09:58 | |
-There were lots of jousts. | 0:09:58 | 0:10:00 | |
-Young men were trained -in the art of warfare... | 0:10:01 | 0:10:06 | |
-..but also Philip -was a very well-educated man. | 0:10:06 | 0:10:09 | |
-He had lots of scholars -at his court, lots of poets. | 0:10:10 | 0:10:13 | |
-It was really -quite a staggering place to be. | 0:10:13 | 0:10:18 | |
-I think for a young man like Rhys, -who was 14 at the time... | 0:10:18 | 0:10:21 | |
-..it must have been overwhelming -to the senses. | 0:10:21 | 0:10:24 | |
-Rhys and his father -returned to Wales. | 0:10:26 | 0:10:29 | |
-Rhys was now an ambitious young man. | 0:10:29 | 0:10:32 | |
-He was wed to Efa, the daughter -and heir to Cwrt Henri, Llangathen. | 0:10:32 | 0:10:36 | |
-His main court -was his mother's home... | 0:10:36 | 0:10:39 | |
-..that was Abermarlais, a few miles -to the north east of Dinefwr. | 0:10:40 | 0:10:43 | |
-The majority of the Tywi valley -came under his control. | 0:10:43 | 0:10:47 | |
-Following the death of his -two brothers and father... | 0:10:48 | 0:10:51 | |
-..Rhys was the sole heir to his -family's wealth and lands. | 0:10:51 | 0:10:54 | |
-Rhys ap Thomas' father, Thomas ap -Gruffydd, was killed in battle. | 0:10:56 | 0:11:01 | |
-He was killed by the Herbert family -near Machynlleth. | 0:11:02 | 0:11:05 | |
-That family was Yorkist. | 0:11:05 | 0:11:07 | |
-This was a part of the feud between -the Yorkists and Lancastrians. | 0:11:07 | 0:11:12 | |
-It's no wonder Rhys supported -the Lancasters eventually. | 0:11:12 | 0:11:16 | |
-The bards, big and small, -were witness to this. | 0:11:18 | 0:11:21 | |
-They referred to him -as a generous patron. | 0:11:21 | 0:11:24 | |
-It is clear that he -was a powerful nobleman. | 0:11:24 | 0:11:27 | |
-He was a huge patron of the bards. | 0:11:28 | 0:11:31 | |
-Not only a lot of lesser bards but -the biggest bards of the time too. | 0:11:34 | 0:11:39 | |
-People like Guto'r Glyn. | 0:11:39 | 0:11:41 | |
-We have the evidence -of Polydore Vergil... | 0:11:42 | 0:11:44 | |
-..who wrote during -Henry VII's reign. | 0:11:44 | 0:11:47 | |
-He says that Rhys ap Thomas -had two main traits. | 0:11:47 | 0:11:50 | |
-The first was his willpower. | 0:11:50 | 0:11:52 | |
-The second was his skill -as a military leader. | 0:11:52 | 0:11:55 | |
-The situation between -the Houses of York and Lancaster... | 0:11:57 | 0:12:00 | |
-..continued to be difficult. | 0:12:01 | 0:12:02 | |
-When Henry Tudor was born -in 1457 in Pembroke Castle... | 0:12:02 | 0:12:06 | |
-..it was argued that -he was the true heir of the crown... | 0:12:06 | 0:12:09 | |
-..and the only Lancastrian claimant. | 0:12:09 | 0:12:12 | |
-Just like a game of chess, families -sided with one house or the other. | 0:12:12 | 0:12:18 | |
-They also switched sides in order -not to lose favour, land and power. | 0:12:18 | 0:12:22 | |
-I learned early that you won't -always win through rebellion. | 0:12:30 | 0:12:35 | |
-Playing games, conspiring -and buying time bring rewards. | 0:12:37 | 0:12:42 | |
-Don't mention values and principles. | 0:12:45 | 0:12:48 | |
-Rare are the material rewards -gained from those. | 0:12:48 | 0:12:51 | |
-But now, with the end nearing... | 0:12:53 | 0:12:56 | |
-..values and principles -are more important. | 0:12:58 | 0:13:02 | |
-Certainly, they're a balm -for the troubled conscience. | 0:13:05 | 0:13:08 | |
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-In 1483, -following the death of Edward IV... | 0:13:24 | 0:13:27 | |
-..his sons, Edward V and Richard, -were 12 and 9 years old. | 0:13:28 | 0:13:32 | |
-Their uncle, Richard of York, -was in control. | 0:13:32 | 0:13:36 | |
-But, the young princes disappeared. | 0:13:36 | 0:13:39 | |
-Richard was crowned -as Richard III in their place. | 0:13:40 | 0:13:43 | |
-Some people, the Yorkists, -were very happy with this. | 0:13:44 | 0:13:48 | |
-Others, the Lancastrians, -were furious. | 0:13:49 | 0:13:51 | |
-All commoners hoped for peace. | 0:13:53 | 0:13:56 | |
-By now, Rhys ap Thomas was outwardly -supportive of Richard III. | 0:13:57 | 0:14:01 | |
-According to some, he'd made an -oath that only over his body... | 0:14:02 | 0:14:06 | |
-..could anyone come through Wales -to attack the King. | 0:14:07 | 0:14:10 | |
-There was, of course, a problem... | 0:14:11 | 0:14:14 | |
-..when Richard III, Edward IV's -brother, ascended the throne. | 0:14:14 | 0:14:20 | |
-The allegations are -that he'd killed Edward IV's sons... | 0:14:20 | 0:14:25 | |
-..to gain authority. | 0:14:25 | 0:14:28 | |
-That certainly caused problems -in terms of loyalty. | 0:14:30 | 0:14:34 | |
-Even during this bloody period -of the War of the Roses... | 0:14:36 | 0:14:40 | |
-..killing innocent children -was considered unforgivable. | 0:14:40 | 0:14:44 | |
-But there was one other matter that -enraged Rhys ap Thomas at the time. | 0:14:45 | 0:14:49 | |
-This was Richard III's request... | 0:14:49 | 0:14:51 | |
-..to keep Rhys' son Gruffydd -hostage in the royal court... | 0:14:52 | 0:14:55 | |
-..to ensure Rhys ap Thomas' support. | 0:14:55 | 0:14:58 | |
-Some suggest -that Richard's request... | 0:15:00 | 0:15:05 | |
-..to hold Rhys ap Thomas' son -hostage... | 0:15:05 | 0:15:10 | |
-..was secondary to the offer -that Rhys ap Thomas... | 0:15:10 | 0:15:16 | |
-..would be his right-hand man -in South Wales. | 0:15:16 | 0:15:21 | |
-The job was his... | 0:15:22 | 0:15:24 | |
-..but his son would be an insurance -policy against a rebellion. | 0:15:24 | 0:15:30 | |
-Yes, I sent a letter by the hand -of Talley Abbot... | 0:15:32 | 0:15:35 | |
-..promising Richard my support. | 0:15:35 | 0:15:37 | |
-The words are still in my memory. | 0:15:38 | 0:15:40 | |
-My conscience binds me to love -and serve my King and country. | 0:15:41 | 0:15:46 | |
-My vow can do no more. | 0:15:46 | 0:15:48 | |
-Richard wanted to take -my son as a hostage. | 0:15:48 | 0:15:51 | |
-My four-year-old son -a hostage for my loyalty. | 0:15:52 | 0:15:55 | |
-This was too much -for both myself and his mother. | 0:15:57 | 0:16:01 | |
-Such presumption from the King. | 0:16:01 | 0:16:04 | |
-To take my son! | 0:16:04 | 0:16:06 | |
-What kind of man -would do that to a four-year-old? | 0:16:06 | 0:16:10 | |
-Despite signing the letter... | 0:16:12 | 0:16:14 | |
-.."most obedient and most faithful -subject and servant"... | 0:16:14 | 0:16:17 | |
-..the request itself -had hurt and infuriated me. | 0:16:17 | 0:16:22 | |
-No, he would not get my son -as hostage. | 0:16:23 | 0:16:26 | |
-But I had to ensure I did not show -my true feelings to anyone. | 0:16:26 | 0:16:31 | |
-Buy time. | 0:16:32 | 0:16:34 | |
-There would be an opportunity -to strike back. | 0:16:34 | 0:16:37 | |
-Rhys must have been very aware... | 0:16:38 | 0:16:39 | |
-..that the cost of supporting -the losing side would be his head. | 0:16:40 | 0:16:43 | |
-When choosing sides, these things -must have gone through his mind. | 0:16:45 | 0:16:49 | |
-His old loyalty to Lancaster -would still be pulling. | 0:16:49 | 0:16:53 | |
-He was also aware of the huge risk -this meant for him and his family. | 0:16:53 | 0:16:58 | |
-By 1485, both Richard III's son -and wife, Anne, had died. | 0:17:00 | 0:17:06 | |
-That left him -in a very weak position. | 0:17:06 | 0:17:09 | |
-He was a King with no heir. | 0:17:09 | 0:17:11 | |
-Henry Tudor and his uncle, -Jasper Tudor were in France. | 0:17:12 | 0:17:15 | |
-They were busy collecting an army to -land in Britain and attack Richard. | 0:17:15 | 0:17:20 | |
-Richard III required support from -men like Rhys ap Thomas in Wales. | 0:17:21 | 0:17:27 | |
-Richard didn't know -where Henry would land. | 0:17:28 | 0:17:31 | |
-He knew he was coming -but he didn't know where he'd land. | 0:17:31 | 0:17:34 | |
-He'd moved to Nottingham -by the summer of 1485... | 0:17:34 | 0:17:37 | |
-..to be in the centre -of the kingdom... | 0:17:37 | 0:17:40 | |
-..ready to strike -at Henry's landing site. | 0:17:40 | 0:17:42 | |
-He needed people locally -in many areas to watch the coasts. | 0:17:42 | 0:17:49 | |
-In Kidwelly, there lived a lawyer -named Trahaearn ap Morgan. | 0:17:52 | 0:17:56 | |
-He was one of the links... | 0:17:56 | 0:17:57 | |
-..between Henry Tudor and supportive -nobles in Britain, including Rhys. | 0:17:58 | 0:18:02 | |
-Another was John Morgan -from Tredegar, the lawyer's brother. | 0:18:02 | 0:18:06 | |
-He would later become -the Bishop of St Davids. | 0:18:07 | 0:18:09 | |
-Rhys was careful -not to show his true colours... | 0:18:10 | 0:18:12 | |
-..or cunning in continuing to appear -to support King Richard III. | 0:18:13 | 0:18:17 | |
-Gold. -I loved its colour and its touch. | 0:18:18 | 0:18:21 | |
-Too much. | 0:18:22 | 0:18:23 | |
-Richard III gave me an annual sum -to buy my support. | 0:18:23 | 0:18:29 | |
-Threatening to keep my son hostage -was one step too far. | 0:18:31 | 0:18:35 | |
-Under Richard III -and the Yorkists... | 0:18:38 | 0:18:40 | |
-..there was little chance -of climbing higher politically. | 0:18:40 | 0:18:44 | |
-Henry Tudor offered more. | 0:18:46 | 0:18:49 | |
-Yes, there was danger... | 0:18:49 | 0:18:51 | |
-..but through good planning -and conspiring... | 0:18:51 | 0:18:55 | |
-..it was possible -to conquer Richard. | 0:18:55 | 0:18:58 | |
-I may have sworn an oath -of fealty to him... | 0:18:58 | 0:19:01 | |
-..and I won't go back on my word -if it isn't in my interest. | 0:19:02 | 0:19:06 | |
-Henry and Jasper had deliberately -chosen to land in Wales. | 0:19:08 | 0:19:13 | |
-They were hoping there wouldn't be -any direct resistance. | 0:19:14 | 0:19:17 | |
-They would have time to gather -an army and travel towards Richard. | 0:19:17 | 0:19:21 | |
-They could do that without someone -resisting them straight away. | 0:19:22 | 0:19:25 | |
-What Richard wanted... | 0:19:26 | 0:19:27 | |
-..was for his supporters in Wales -to deal with Henry early. | 0:19:27 | 0:19:31 | |
-That's not how it was. | 0:19:31 | 0:19:33 | |
-On 1 August 1485, Henry Tudor -sailed towards Wales. | 0:19:35 | 0:19:38 | |
-He had the support -of the King of France. | 0:19:38 | 0:19:41 | |
-He landed about two miles from Dale -in Pembrokeshire on 7 August. | 0:19:42 | 0:19:47 | |
-When Henry Tudor landed here, -he changed the course... | 0:19:50 | 0:19:54 | |
-..not only of Welsh history, -but British history too. | 0:19:54 | 0:19:58 | |
-He put Rhys ap Thomas -in quite a quandary. | 0:19:58 | 0:20:01 | |
-What would he do? | 0:20:02 | 0:20:04 | |
-Fight the incoming claimant -or support Henry Tudor? | 0:20:05 | 0:20:09 | |
-This place is a turning point -in our history. | 0:20:11 | 0:20:15 | |
-According to one old legend... | 0:20:45 | 0:20:47 | |
-..because Rhys swore that nobody -could come through Wales... | 0:20:47 | 0:20:51 | |
-..to attack Richard III -only over his body... | 0:20:51 | 0:20:54 | |
-..the then bishop of St Davids -advised him to do exactly that. | 0:20:54 | 0:20:57 | |
-That would release him -from the oath. | 0:20:58 | 0:21:00 | |
-And it's what he did. | 0:21:00 | 0:21:02 | |
-He lay down under Mullock bridge... | 0:21:02 | 0:21:04 | |
-..while Henry's soldiers -marched over his body. | 0:21:05 | 0:21:08 | |
-The myth that Rhys lies down -under Mullock bridge... | 0:21:12 | 0:21:16 | |
-..while Henry Tudor marches across -so that Rhys doesn't break his word. | 0:21:16 | 0:21:20 | |
-It's just a myth. | 0:21:21 | 0:21:22 | |
-Rhys was halfway up country by then. | 0:21:24 | 0:21:27 | |
-He wouldn't have had time to get -back and lie under Mullock bridge. | 0:21:28 | 0:21:31 | |
-It would have been pointless. | 0:21:33 | 0:21:35 | |
-Rhys kept everyone guessing by not -siding with one side or the other. | 0:21:41 | 0:21:46 | |
-That is part, most likely, -of his success. | 0:21:47 | 0:21:49 | |
-This choice of different routes -is very interesting. | 0:21:52 | 0:21:56 | |
-It isn't completely obvious... | 0:21:56 | 0:21:59 | |
-..that Rhys has made -the final decision to join Henry. | 0:21:59 | 0:22:04 | |
-It could be suggested that he was -waiting to see what would happen. | 0:22:04 | 0:22:10 | |
-There is evidence that he and Henry -had been in contact... | 0:22:10 | 0:22:13 | |
-..that messages -went back and forth... | 0:22:14 | 0:22:17 | |
-..and that they both knew -the plans... | 0:22:17 | 0:22:19 | |
-..and that they'd planned to meet -at Welshpool, close to the border. | 0:22:19 | 0:22:24 | |
-The natural way for him -to go to claim the crown... | 0:22:24 | 0:22:28 | |
-..was straight across South Wales... | 0:22:28 | 0:22:30 | |
-..just as if he'd caught -a Great Western train... | 0:22:30 | 0:22:33 | |
-..if such things existed -at that time, straight for London. | 0:22:33 | 0:22:37 | |
-That's not what he did, is it? | 0:22:37 | 0:22:41 | |
-He headed to the North West -along the coast. | 0:22:41 | 0:22:45 | |
-Rhys' path went more -through the heart of Wales. | 0:22:46 | 0:22:50 | |
-He went through Carmarthen, -Brecon, Builth Wells... | 0:22:50 | 0:22:55 | |
-..Llangurig up to Welshpool. | 0:22:55 | 0:22:57 | |
-That follows a path... | 0:22:57 | 0:22:59 | |
-..along the western side -of the Marches. | 0:23:00 | 0:23:04 | |
-More to the east, there was more -support for the house of York. | 0:23:04 | 0:23:08 | |
-The South West was a traditional -Lancaster stronghold. | 0:23:08 | 0:23:12 | |
-What Rhys was doing, in a way... | 0:23:12 | 0:23:14 | |
-..was following the border -with Yorkist territory. | 0:23:14 | 0:23:19 | |
-By doing that... | 0:23:19 | 0:23:20 | |
-..he may have been sheltering -Henry from an Eastern attack. | 0:23:20 | 0:23:24 | |
-On the way to Bosworth, Henry Tudor -stayed near Machynlleth... | 0:23:26 | 0:23:31 | |
-..with the prophetic poet -Dafydd Llwyd o Fathafarn. | 0:23:31 | 0:23:35 | |
-Dafydd Llwyd o Fathafarn -was the broadcast mouthpiece... | 0:23:36 | 0:23:40 | |
-..of the War of the Roses in Wales. | 0:23:40 | 0:23:43 | |
-If the Lancastrians -had their broadcast minister... | 0:23:43 | 0:23:48 | |
-..that man was Dafydd Llwyd. | 0:23:48 | 0:23:50 | |
-There was a good reason why -Henry Tudor visited Dafydd Llwyd. | 0:23:51 | 0:23:56 | |
-According to tradition, -and I accept that tradition... | 0:23:56 | 0:24:00 | |
-..he spent the night at Mathafarn. | 0:24:01 | 0:24:03 | |
-Over supper that night... | 0:24:06 | 0:24:08 | |
-..Henry Tudor questioned -Dafydd Llwyd about his fate. | 0:24:08 | 0:24:12 | |
-The prophetic poet promised -an answer in the morning. | 0:24:12 | 0:24:16 | |
-During the night... | 0:24:18 | 0:24:20 | |
-..Dafydd Llwyd tossed and turned, -but he couldn't sleep. | 0:24:20 | 0:24:24 | |
-According to tradition, -his wife turned to him and said... | 0:24:24 | 0:24:30 | |
-.."Just tell him he's certain -to win and claim the crown." | 0:24:30 | 0:24:36 | |
-If that doesn't happen, he's -unlikely to come back to bother you. | 0:24:36 | 0:24:41 | |
-If he is victorious, there's -a good chance you'll be rewarded. | 0:24:41 | 0:24:47 | |
-I managed to win the support -of my people and the young men. | 0:24:52 | 0:24:55 | |
-They were happy to fight -for a Welshman, Henry Tudor. | 0:24:56 | 0:24:59 | |
-I'm a strong proponent -of physical exercise... | 0:24:59 | 0:25:03 | |
-..and nurturing strength -to fight in battle. | 0:25:03 | 0:25:07 | |
-If I ever learned something, -it was military strategy. | 0:25:08 | 0:25:12 | |
-Knowing where to be -and when to strike. | 0:25:12 | 0:25:16 | |
-Henry had made me many promises. | 0:25:17 | 0:25:20 | |
-I shared the hope -of seeing a Welshman... | 0:25:20 | 0:25:22 | |
-..on the throne -of England and Wales. | 0:25:22 | 0:25:24 | |
-One bard referred to Henry -as the second great redeemer. | 0:25:26 | 0:25:30 | |
-We all hoped he'd be more successful -than the first, Owain Glyndwr. | 0:25:30 | 0:25:35 | |
-The August of 1485 was a turning -point, in more ways than one. | 0:25:38 | 0:25:45 | |
-I was young, -in the prime of my days. | 0:25:46 | 0:25:49 | |
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-During harvest time... | 0:26:06 | 0:26:08 | |
-..around 16 August 1485... | 0:26:08 | 0:26:13 | |
-..Henry Tudor's army -and Rhys ap Thomas' army... | 0:26:13 | 0:26:16 | |
-..made their way through Wales -on the way to the English Midlands. | 0:26:17 | 0:26:21 | |
-Their aim, -to defeat King Richard III. | 0:26:21 | 0:26:24 | |
-At the same time, -the King was in Nottingham... | 0:26:24 | 0:26:27 | |
-..preparing -for the inevitable battle. | 0:26:28 | 0:26:31 | |
-Rhys had shown his support -for Henry Tudor by now... | 0:26:36 | 0:26:39 | |
-..and Richard III knew it. | 0:26:39 | 0:26:42 | |
-What a plot to deceive Richard. | 0:26:44 | 0:26:47 | |
-To create doubt. | 0:26:47 | 0:26:49 | |
-But the leaders of the -North Wales lands joined us too... | 0:26:49 | 0:26:53 | |
-..William Gruffydd ap Robin -and Rhys Fawr ap Maredudd... | 0:26:53 | 0:26:57 | |
-..Hugh Conway -and Rhisiart ap Hywel from Mostyn. | 0:26:57 | 0:27:01 | |
-The Welsh were fervent -in their support for Henry Tudor. | 0:27:01 | 0:27:05 | |
-I may as well admit it here... | 0:27:05 | 0:27:07 | |
-..my army, -my 1,000 disciplined soldiers... | 0:27:07 | 0:27:11 | |
-..were the most important, -and Henry Tudor knew this. | 0:27:11 | 0:27:15 | |
-Richard moved his soldiers from his -base in Nottingham to Leicester... | 0:27:21 | 0:27:26 | |
-..and from there to Ambion Hill -outside Market Bosworth. | 0:27:26 | 0:27:30 | |
-Leicester was one of the main -administrative centres back then... | 0:27:30 | 0:27:35 | |
-..not London, -as it was more central. | 0:27:35 | 0:27:38 | |
-In the same way, Wales was ruled -from Ludlow, on the border lands... | 0:27:39 | 0:27:43 | |
-..as it was easier... | 0:27:44 | 0:27:45 | |
-..to govern north and south -and the Marches from there. | 0:27:45 | 0:27:49 | |
-What a morning - -the morning of 22 August 1485. | 0:28:00 | 0:28:05 | |
-Between us and Richard's army, -the ground was wet and marshy. | 0:28:05 | 0:28:09 | |
-The Earl of Oxford was to attack on -behalf of Henry Tudor on one flank. | 0:28:17 | 0:28:21 | |
-Nearby, undecided if they'd support -Henry Tudor, were the Stanleys. | 0:28:21 | 0:28:26 | |
-Arrows were fired -by the Earl of Oxford's soldiers. | 0:28:30 | 0:28:34 | |
-The Stanleys joined in the battle -on the side of Henry Tudor. | 0:28:36 | 0:28:40 | |
-Then, and I don't understand why... | 0:28:48 | 0:28:50 | |
-..Richard -decided to attack Henry Tudor... | 0:28:50 | 0:28:53 | |
-..who had a small group of soldiers -nearby. | 0:28:53 | 0:28:56 | |
-My soldiers and I were there too. | 0:28:57 | 0:28:59 | |
-Henry's standard-bearer was killed, -Sir William Brandon. | 0:29:02 | 0:29:06 | |
-Rhys Fawr ap Maredudd -picked up the standard. | 0:29:07 | 0:29:10 | |
-I saw Richard coming towards Henry. | 0:29:10 | 0:29:13 | |
-I had the halberd. | 0:29:20 | 0:29:21 | |
-As he charged towards Henry, -he turned his back towards me. | 0:29:24 | 0:29:27 | |
-I lifted the weapon. | 0:29:27 | 0:29:29 | |
-We have this image of Richard III -falling off his horse... | 0:29:32 | 0:29:36 | |
-..throwing himself amongst Henry -VII's supporters on the battlefield. | 0:29:36 | 0:29:41 | |
-He apparently fought valiantly -on his feet... | 0:29:41 | 0:29:44 | |
-..shouting at the top of his voice, -"Treason"... | 0:29:44 | 0:29:47 | |
-..and was struck down. | 0:29:47 | 0:29:49 | |
-His skeleton suggests he received -many blows to his head and body... | 0:29:49 | 0:29:54 | |
-..so a cluster of Welsh people -surrounding Henry... | 0:29:54 | 0:29:58 | |
-..who shared the responsibility. | 0:29:58 | 0:30:01 | |
-The contemporary account -in a chronicle in Burgundy... | 0:30:01 | 0:30:04 | |
-..says he was killed by a Welshman. | 0:30:04 | 0:30:06 | |
-So it's possible that a Welshman -supporting Henry was responsible. | 0:30:07 | 0:30:11 | |
-Some name Rhys ap Maredudd -as the man who did the deed. | 0:30:11 | 0:30:15 | |
-There's a strong tradition -saying it was Rhys ap Thomas. | 0:30:16 | 0:30:19 | |
-After two hours of battle, -it was all finished. | 0:30:22 | 0:30:26 | |
-Henry Tudor was now -the King of England and Wales. | 0:30:26 | 0:30:31 | |
-After the morning of fighting... | 0:30:38 | 0:30:41 | |
-..Rhys ap Thomas was knighted -on Bosworth Field by Henry Tudor. | 0:30:41 | 0:30:45 | |
-Then, Henry Tudor -rode victoriously into Leicester... | 0:30:48 | 0:30:52 | |
-..followed by Richard III's body. | 0:30:52 | 0:30:55 | |
-The corpse was exhibited -for two days... | 0:30:56 | 0:30:59 | |
-..before it was buried -at Greyfriars Court. | 0:30:59 | 0:31:03 | |
-His remains were found in 2012 -under a car park in Leicester. | 0:31:04 | 0:31:09 | |
-They were reburied this spring. | 0:31:09 | 0:31:12 | |
-It was proved -that they belonged to Richard III. | 0:31:13 | 0:31:16 | |
-He was killed when his skull was -split by a weapon like a halberd. | 0:31:16 | 0:31:20 | |
-What's noteworthy... | 0:31:24 | 0:31:26 | |
-..and is perhaps further proof -that Sir Rhys killed Richard III... | 0:31:26 | 0:31:31 | |
-..is the poets' evidence. | 0:31:31 | 0:31:33 | |
-Guto'r Glyn composed a cywydd -of praise to Sir Rhys ap Thomas. | 0:31:33 | 0:31:37 | |
-In it, he refers to the part -that Sir Rhys ap Thomas played... | 0:31:37 | 0:31:41 | |
-..in the Battle of Bosworth. | 0:31:41 | 0:31:43 | |
-Sir Rhys ap Thomas, -to a large degree... | 0:31:43 | 0:31:45 | |
-..was the right man in -the right place at the right time. | 0:31:46 | 0:31:49 | |
-If Rhys ap Thomas killed Richard... | 0:31:49 | 0:31:53 | |
-..then it shows -that he was already a part... | 0:31:53 | 0:31:56 | |
-..of Henry Tudor's -very close circle. | 0:31:57 | 0:32:00 | |
-It confirms that there -had been careful planning. | 0:32:00 | 0:32:05 | |
-Interestingly, -Guto refers to the battle itself. | 0:32:06 | 0:32:09 | |
-He talks about... | 0:32:09 | 0:32:10 | |
-There are key lines in the cywydd. | 0:32:11 | 0:32:14 | |
-One of them is "killing the boar, -he shaved his head". | 0:32:14 | 0:32:20 | |
-Of course, -the boar refers to Richard III. | 0:32:21 | 0:32:24 | |
-For me, the only difficulty -is who carries out the deed. | 0:32:25 | 0:32:31 | |
-Is it the King, is it Sir Rhys? | 0:32:31 | 0:32:34 | |
-It's obvious -that Sir Rhys was present. | 0:32:34 | 0:32:37 | |
-But there's some confusion -as to who scored the crucial try... | 0:32:38 | 0:32:43 | |
-..which meant that Wales -was victorious on Bosworth field? | 0:32:44 | 0:32:48 | |
-I'm not certain. | 0:32:48 | 0:32:50 | |
-We've got Jean Molinet, -the chronicler... | 0:32:50 | 0:32:52 | |
-..who was a contemporary -of Bosworth. | 0:32:53 | 0:32:55 | |
-He says it's a Welshman -who killed Richard III. | 0:32:55 | 0:32:58 | |
-If Sir Rhys -had actually killed Richard... | 0:32:59 | 0:33:02 | |
-..I think Guto and a few -other bards had made more of it. | 0:33:02 | 0:33:08 | |
-Guto's cywydd suggests -that it's extremely likely... | 0:33:09 | 0:33:15 | |
-..that soldiers, -Sir Rhys ap Thomas' men... | 0:33:15 | 0:33:18 | |
-..were responsible -for killing Richard III. | 0:33:19 | 0:33:23 | |
-It's quite possible -that it wouldn't have been wise... | 0:33:23 | 0:33:27 | |
-..to boast too much -about who killed Richard III. | 0:33:27 | 0:33:31 | |
-Killing a king wasn't necessarily -something to be too vocal about. | 0:33:31 | 0:33:37 | |
-The tables might have turned and -then revenge would've been sought... | 0:33:37 | 0:33:41 | |
-..on whoever killed the King -from the York family. | 0:33:41 | 0:33:44 | |
-But the part he played -was clearly crucial. | 0:33:45 | 0:33:48 | |
-Within three days of the battle, -he was knighted, made a Sir. | 0:33:48 | 0:33:53 | |
-That was a reward. | 0:33:53 | 0:33:56 | |
-That says a lot. | 0:33:57 | 0:33:58 | |
-So I would say it points to the fact -that he probably did kill Richard... | 0:33:59 | 0:34:03 | |
-..because without Richard -being dead... | 0:34:03 | 0:34:06 | |
-..there is no way -Henry could ever be King. | 0:34:06 | 0:34:08 | |
-It was no good wounding him, -somebody had to kill him. | 0:34:09 | 0:34:12 | |
-Without a doubt, -Henry Tudor was delighted. | 0:34:15 | 0:34:19 | |
-He couldn't thank me enough. | 0:34:19 | 0:34:21 | |
-I was knighted on the spot. | 0:34:21 | 0:34:23 | |
-What would my grandfather -have made of this? | 0:34:25 | 0:34:28 | |
-Henry was true to his word... | 0:34:28 | 0:34:30 | |
-..and I was made -Chamberlain of South Wales... | 0:34:30 | 0:34:33 | |
-..a Steward of the King... | 0:34:33 | 0:34:34 | |
-..with land and control -over the lordship of Builth. | 0:34:35 | 0:34:38 | |
-Oh, things changed significantly -for me. | 0:34:38 | 0:34:42 | |
-On 30 October, two months -after the Battle of Bosworth... | 0:34:45 | 0:34:49 | |
-..Henry Tudor was crowned Henry VII. | 0:34:49 | 0:34:53 | |
-The Welsh -thought this was great news. | 0:34:54 | 0:34:57 | |
-A time for celebration. | 0:34:57 | 0:34:59 | |
-Immediately after Henry Tudor's -victory in Bosworth... | 0:35:06 | 0:35:10 | |
-..the bards were delighted. | 0:35:11 | 0:35:13 | |
-These prophecies had come true -at last. | 0:35:13 | 0:35:16 | |
-After years of prophesying... | 0:35:16 | 0:35:19 | |
-..that a Welshman would regain the -English crown, the London crown... | 0:35:19 | 0:35:23 | |
-..and become head of Britain again, -it had actually happened. | 0:35:23 | 0:35:27 | |
-Henry Tudor was their hero. | 0:35:28 | 0:35:29 | |
-As Henry Tudor had to please English -politicians to get anything done... | 0:35:30 | 0:35:35 | |
-..I think the bards at the time -had been smart enough to realize... | 0:35:35 | 0:35:40 | |
-..that this didn't answer -all of the Welsh's requirements. | 0:35:40 | 0:35:44 | |
-Sir Rhys ap Thomas continued -to receive honours and land... | 0:35:45 | 0:35:50 | |
-..making him richer even than his -grandfather, Gruffydd ap Nicholas. | 0:35:50 | 0:35:54 | |
-Rhys was very ready -to flaunt this wealth... | 0:35:55 | 0:35:58 | |
-..and to share it too. | 0:35:58 | 0:36:00 | |
-In Llanwenog -in southern Ceredigion... | 0:36:01 | 0:36:04 | |
-..the church tower was built under -the orders and cost of Sir Rhys... | 0:36:04 | 0:36:08 | |
-..as a thank you, possibly, to -the young soldiers from the area... | 0:36:08 | 0:36:12 | |
-..who were part of his army -in Bosworth. | 0:36:12 | 0:36:15 | |
-Engravings of Tudor roses -were made near the roof... | 0:36:15 | 0:36:18 | |
-..and Sir Rhys ap Thomas' -coat of arms is above the door. | 0:36:18 | 0:36:22 | |
-Many other battles were fought -to secure Henry VII's crown. | 0:36:24 | 0:36:28 | |
-Sir Rhys was a key part -of the battles. | 0:36:28 | 0:36:31 | |
-He was away from home more and more -doing work for the King. | 0:36:31 | 0:36:35 | |
-When Arthur was born, a son to -Henry VII and his wife Elizabeth... | 0:36:40 | 0:36:44 | |
-..the new Prince's carer -and best friend... | 0:36:44 | 0:36:47 | |
-..was Gruffydd ap Rhys, -Sir Rhys ap Thomas' son, no less. | 0:36:48 | 0:36:51 | |
-Sir Rhys' family were now -a prominent and central part... | 0:36:51 | 0:36:56 | |
-..of the royal family's court -on every level... | 0:36:56 | 0:36:59 | |
-..as well as governing in Wales. | 0:36:59 | 0:37:01 | |
-In truth, this was just the start. | 0:37:02 | 0:37:04 | |
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-The fact that Rhys -progressed so much so quickly... | 0:37:22 | 0:37:26 | |
-..is proof of how Henry VII -felt indebted to him. | 0:37:26 | 0:37:30 | |
-Is this proof that he killed -Richard III on the battlefield? | 0:37:30 | 0:37:34 | |
-Rhys was given -considerable authority afterwards. | 0:37:35 | 0:37:39 | |
-He spent time in court in London. | 0:37:39 | 0:37:41 | |
-He was a member -of the Privy Council... | 0:37:41 | 0:37:44 | |
-..so the King turned to him -for advice... | 0:37:44 | 0:37:46 | |
-..in particular -on matters relating to Wales. | 0:37:47 | 0:37:50 | |
-He was asked to arrange a tomb -for Henry VII's father, Edmund... | 0:37:50 | 0:37:54 | |
-..who died unexpectedly -before Henry was born. | 0:37:54 | 0:37:57 | |
-He was known affectionately -as King of Carmarthen. | 0:37:58 | 0:38:01 | |
-He was virtually King -here in South Wales. | 0:38:01 | 0:38:04 | |
-He could do really -whatever he pleased. | 0:38:05 | 0:38:07 | |
-Henry VII's son was Arthur. | 0:38:08 | 0:38:11 | |
-Arthur married Catherine of Aragon -in 1501. | 0:38:11 | 0:38:14 | |
-They lived in Ludlow... | 0:38:15 | 0:38:17 | |
-..the main town governing -Wales and the Marches at the time. | 0:38:18 | 0:38:22 | |
-They were only married for -five months before Arthur died... | 0:38:24 | 0:38:28 | |
-..more than likely -of sweating sickness. | 0:38:28 | 0:38:30 | |
-Who was chosen -to arrange the funeral... | 0:38:30 | 0:38:34 | |
-..but his best friend Gruffydd ap -Rhys, the son of Sir Rhys ap Thomas. | 0:38:34 | 0:38:38 | |
-Prince Arthur -was buried at Worcester Cathedral. | 0:38:38 | 0:38:43 | |
-Sir Rhys received -one of his greatest honours... | 0:39:01 | 0:39:05 | |
-..from Henry VII in 1505. | 0:39:05 | 0:39:08 | |
-He was made Knight of the Garter. | 0:39:08 | 0:39:10 | |
-This was the highest form of -chivalry honour given by the King. | 0:39:11 | 0:39:15 | |
-Sir Rhys was the only Welshman -to receive this honour... | 0:39:16 | 0:39:19 | |
-..until the 20th century. | 0:39:19 | 0:39:21 | |
-The Garter emblem -can be seen clearly on his tomb... | 0:39:21 | 0:39:24 | |
-..at St Peter's Church, Carmarthen. | 0:39:24 | 0:39:27 | |
-To celebrate this in 1506... | 0:39:28 | 0:39:31 | |
-..Rhys ap Thomas held a big party... | 0:39:31 | 0:39:34 | |
-..in the house he had obtained... | 0:39:35 | 0:39:37 | |
-..because he had given someone a -mortgage who was then unable to pay. | 0:39:37 | 0:39:42 | |
-This was Carew Castle. | 0:39:43 | 0:39:45 | |
-He invited noblemen -from all over Wales. | 0:39:45 | 0:39:48 | |
-What a celebration! | 0:39:54 | 0:39:55 | |
-Me, a soldier -from the Dinefwr area... | 0:39:55 | 0:39:58 | |
-..being bestowed with one -of the greatest honours possible. | 0:39:58 | 0:40:02 | |
-Knight of the Garter. | 0:40:02 | 0:40:04 | |
-It was a prosperous time... | 0:40:05 | 0:40:06 | |
-..with many castles' land -and constableships coming to me... | 0:40:07 | 0:40:10 | |
-..and to my son, Gruffydd. | 0:40:10 | 0:40:13 | |
-It was a time of organization... | 0:40:13 | 0:40:15 | |
-..of ensuring that everyone -paid their rent... | 0:40:15 | 0:40:18 | |
-..and that soldiers were available -and were well-prepared. | 0:40:18 | 0:40:22 | |
-A time of ensuring -that a legal order was administered. | 0:40:22 | 0:40:25 | |
-When Henry VII died in 1509, -it was the end of an era. | 0:40:27 | 0:40:32 | |
-However, his son Henry VIII -wanted me to continue to advise... | 0:40:33 | 0:40:37 | |
-..and to rule on his behalf -in Wales. | 0:40:37 | 0:40:39 | |
-Even in 1512, at 63 years old, -I fought in France with the King. | 0:40:41 | 0:40:46 | |
-My main role at home -was to keep an eye on the seas... | 0:40:48 | 0:40:51 | |
-..so that no-one -could attack the country... | 0:40:51 | 0:40:54 | |
-..by landing on the coast -of south-west Wales. | 0:40:54 | 0:40:57 | |
-I was so proud of my son Gruffydd -at the time. | 0:40:58 | 0:41:02 | |
-My succession was safe. | 0:41:02 | 0:41:04 | |
-He was given more and more -responsibilities. | 0:41:04 | 0:41:07 | |
-He was also -one of the King's favourites. | 0:41:07 | 0:41:10 | |
-Those were good times. | 0:41:11 | 0:41:12 | |
-Despite the successes and honours, -tragedy hit the family in 1521. | 0:41:15 | 0:41:20 | |
-Gruffydd ap Rhys -died at the age of 43. | 0:41:20 | 0:41:24 | |
-It is likely he died while away -on business for the King in Calais. | 0:41:25 | 0:41:28 | |
-He was buried in Worcester, -close to the tomb of Prince Arthur. | 0:41:28 | 0:41:33 | |
-His death had a great effect -on Sir Rhys. | 0:41:34 | 0:41:37 | |
-His intention had been for Gruffydd -to inherit all his land. | 0:41:38 | 0:41:42 | |
-He was a brave soldier... | 0:41:43 | 0:41:45 | |
-..who had studied Law -at Lincoln's Inn in London. | 0:41:45 | 0:41:48 | |
-He had been groomed to be an adviser -on Wales for the King. | 0:41:48 | 0:41:52 | |
-Without another heir, -all of his kingdom... | 0:41:54 | 0:41:57 | |
-..was now likely to go to his -grandson, Rhys ap Gruffydd, aged 15. | 0:41:57 | 0:42:02 | |
-By 1524, Sir Rhys's health -was deteriorating. | 0:42:09 | 0:42:13 | |
-On 3 February 1525, he came -to Greyfriars Court in Carmarthen. | 0:42:13 | 0:42:19 | |
-It was a strange move, -as he had many homes in the area... | 0:42:19 | 0:42:22 | |
-..and enough money -to secure the best care possible. | 0:42:23 | 0:42:26 | |
-Was he turning to God -in his eleventh hour? | 0:42:26 | 0:42:30 | |
-Looking back, it is possible -that there were things he regretted. | 0:42:31 | 0:42:35 | |
-More than one life had ended -on the battlefield because of Rhys. | 0:42:35 | 0:42:39 | |
-We must remember -that Rhys was probably there... | 0:42:39 | 0:42:42 | |
-..when Richard's body was carted off -fairly ignominiously... | 0:42:42 | 0:42:46 | |
-..to the Greyfriars in Leicester. | 0:42:46 | 0:42:48 | |
-For a man like Rhys, -I think this would have been... | 0:42:49 | 0:42:52 | |
-..a very difficult thing -to cope with in his conscience. | 0:42:52 | 0:42:55 | |
-It's possible that he felt he needed -to reconcile with his God. | 0:42:56 | 0:43:00 | |
-I'm sorry for what I did. I'll end -my days here with the Greyfriars. | 0:43:01 | 0:43:05 | |
-Like my liege Lord Richard did. -The man I killed. | 0:43:06 | 0:43:11 | |
-The man that I destroyed. | 0:43:11 | 0:43:12 | |
-The end is nearing. | 0:43:19 | 0:43:21 | |
-Everything is weakening. | 0:43:22 | 0:43:24 | |
-Is it wise to look back? | 0:43:25 | 0:43:27 | |
-Yes, there were successes. | 0:43:29 | 0:43:31 | |
-When I was a child playing -around Dinefwr and Abermarlais... | 0:43:32 | 0:43:35 | |
-..who would have believed -I could have such success? | 0:43:36 | 0:43:39 | |
-And such losses. | 0:43:40 | 0:43:42 | |
-Oh, God, I tried to be honest... | 0:43:44 | 0:43:48 | |
-..and fair. | 0:43:48 | 0:43:50 | |
-I know I swore an oath of allegiance -to Richard III. | 0:43:51 | 0:43:57 | |
-I then betrayed him and killed him -at the Battle of Bosworth. | 0:43:57 | 0:44:01 | |
-But isn't this surely -the fate of soldiers? | 0:44:01 | 0:44:04 | |
-How will you judge me? | 0:44:05 | 0:44:08 | |
-Oh, God, do not judge me -on my faults alone. | 0:44:09 | 0:44:14 | |
-Forgive me -for what I did to Richard. | 0:44:15 | 0:44:18 | |
-# Amen # | 0:44:19 | 0:44:26 | |
-Sir Rhys ap Thomas -died on 9 February, 1525. | 0:44:29 | 0:44:33 | |
-He was 76 years old. | 0:44:34 | 0:44:36 | |
-He was buried with the monks -at Greyfriars Court in Carmarthen. | 0:44:36 | 0:44:41 | |
-Quite ironically, the site -is now Greyfriars Car Park. | 0:44:41 | 0:44:47 | |
-Strange, -when you consider what happened... | 0:44:47 | 0:44:50 | |
-..to the remains of Richard III -and the other car park in Leicester. | 0:44:50 | 0:44:54 | |
-After Henry VIII's -dissolution of the monasteries... | 0:45:02 | 0:45:05 | |
-..Sir Rhys's corpse -was moved to St Peter's Church... | 0:45:06 | 0:45:09 | |
-..in the centre of Carmarthen. | 0:45:09 | 0:45:11 | |
-Sir Rhys married twice. | 0:45:13 | 0:45:15 | |
-He had one son, who died young. | 0:45:16 | 0:45:20 | |
-In his will, -he provides for his daughters... | 0:45:20 | 0:45:23 | |
-..and for 12 children -born out of wedlock... | 0:45:24 | 0:45:27 | |
-..and their mothers, -who were his lovers. | 0:45:29 | 0:45:31 | |
-His grandson, Rhys, -inherited everything. | 0:45:34 | 0:45:37 | |
-But he was accused of treason -and was executed by Henry VIII. | 0:45:38 | 0:45:43 | |
-He was accused of conspiring -with the King of Scotland... | 0:45:45 | 0:45:49 | |
-..so that he would rule Wales. | 0:45:50 | 0:45:53 | |
-He called himself Fitz Urien -to connect with the Old North. | 0:45:53 | 0:45:59 | |
-Like all young men who come -into power at an early age... | 0:46:00 | 0:46:04 | |
-..he let it all slip away. | 0:46:04 | 0:46:06 | |
-That was the beginning of the end, -I think... | 0:46:06 | 0:46:09 | |
-..for the whole -Rhys ap Thomas story and legend. | 0:46:09 | 0:46:13 | |
-They just disappeared through -the bad behaviour of his grandson. | 0:46:13 | 0:46:17 | |
-And so the sun set on -Sir Rhys ap Thomas's large kingdom. | 0:46:27 | 0:46:32 | |
-However, his descendant, -Robert Talbot Rice... | 0:46:40 | 0:46:43 | |
-..continues the military connection. | 0:46:43 | 0:46:45 | |
-He is a Major General -in the Welsh Guards. | 0:46:45 | 0:46:48 | |
-I'm Sir Rhys ap Thomas's -fourteen-times great-grandson. | 0:46:51 | 0:46:54 | |
-He was a remarkable man. -He lived in violent times. | 0:46:55 | 0:46:59 | |
-He prospered in violent times. | 0:46:59 | 0:47:02 | |
-He did a great deal... | 0:47:03 | 0:47:05 | |
-..to bring Wales -into the heart of British politics. | 0:47:05 | 0:47:10 | |
-At the same time, I suspect he was -no saint to have got where he did. | 0:47:10 | 0:47:16 | |
-Saint or no saint, -St Peter's Church in Carmarthen... | 0:47:20 | 0:47:25 | |
-..plans to move the tomb. | 0:47:25 | 0:47:26 | |
-They wish to commemorate Sir Rhys -and his contribution... | 0:47:26 | 0:47:30 | |
-..as explained -by Canon Leigh Richardson. | 0:47:31 | 0:47:33 | |
-At the moment, you can't see -the other side of the tomb. | 0:47:33 | 0:47:39 | |
-We want a 360-degree view. | 0:47:39 | 0:47:41 | |
-We want to be able to see -the top as well. | 0:47:42 | 0:47:45 | |
-We want to create -an interpretation centre... | 0:47:45 | 0:47:48 | |
-..to show the history of Rhys, -the town and the church. | 0:47:49 | 0:47:53 | |
-Were it not for this Welshman -from Llandeilo... | 0:48:00 | 0:48:03 | |
-..the history of Wales, Britain -and possibly the world... | 0:48:03 | 0:48:07 | |
-..would be very different. | 0:48:07 | 0:48:09 | |
-Henry VIII would not have ruled... | 0:48:10 | 0:48:13 | |
-..nor would his daughter, -Elizabeth I. | 0:48:13 | 0:48:16 | |
-She authorized the translation -of the Bible into Welsh. | 0:48:16 | 0:48:20 | |
-Like new growth -in this cornfield... | 0:48:20 | 0:48:22 | |
-..the history of Sir Rhys ap Thomas -can either germinate anew or die. | 0:48:23 | 0:48:27 | |
-It's up to us. | 0:48:28 | 0:48:30 | |
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