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-50? We don't look a day over 30! | 0:00:01 | 0:00:05 | |
-How do they expect us -to blow these out? | 0:00:05 | 0:00:08 | |
-It's the job of one man, -and one man only. | 0:00:08 | 0:00:11 | |
-Oggie, oggie, oggie! | 0:00:18 | 0:00:21 | |
-No, I'm the man. -I've a fantastic pair of lungs. | 0:00:22 | 0:00:26 | |
-No, not you, you idiot. | 0:00:27 | 0:00:29 | |
-Loose-Head Lloyd. | 0:00:31 | 0:00:33 | |
-Being a rugby supporter in Wales -is like being on a fairground ride. | 0:00:43 | 0:00:48 | |
-One minute you're -clutching the edges of your seats... | 0:00:48 | 0:00:53 | |
-..adrenalin pumping -and heart pounding. | 0:00:53 | 0:00:56 | |
-The relief. | 0:00:58 | 0:01:00 | |
-And the next minute, -a nightmare ride on the ghost train. | 0:01:02 | 0:01:07 | |
-Over the past 50 years, -a company near Pontypridd... | 0:01:12 | 0:01:16 | |
-..has been busy chronicling... | 0:01:16 | 0:01:18 | |
-..some of the era's players -and prominent successes. | 0:01:19 | 0:01:23 | |
-This year, the World of Groggs... | 0:01:23 | 0:01:26 | |
-..celebrates its 50th birthday. | 0:01:26 | 0:01:29 | |
-Everyone loves Groggs. | 0:01:29 | 0:01:31 | |
-Every time a new Grogg -was created of one of the players... | 0:01:32 | 0:01:36 | |
-..you could tell -they were chuffed to bits. | 0:01:37 | 0:01:40 | |
-It's something personal. | 0:01:41 | 0:01:44 | |
-You win the first cap, -you play for Wales... | 0:01:44 | 0:01:47 | |
-..and then you look forward -to having a Grogg made of you. | 0:01:48 | 0:01:52 | |
-You know you're -an important player in Wales... | 0:01:53 | 0:01:56 | |
-..when a Grogg's made of you. | 0:01:56 | 0:01:59 | |
-I remember a couple of months ago... | 0:01:59 | 0:02:02 | |
-..Liam Williams -came up to me and said... | 0:02:02 | 0:02:06 | |
-.."It's a big day for me because -I'm going to the Grogg shop." | 0:02:06 | 0:02:11 | |
-I said to him, "You've made it." | 0:02:11 | 0:02:15 | |
-When the boys are asked... | 0:02:15 | 0:02:19 | |
-..they're very proud -and very pleased too. | 0:02:20 | 0:02:23 | |
-I remember Gavin Henson -going into the Grogg shop... | 0:02:24 | 0:02:28 | |
-..and asking for -more of a six-pack, more muscles... | 0:02:28 | 0:02:32 | |
-..and darker skin. | 0:02:32 | 0:02:34 | |
-He was happy in the end... | 0:02:34 | 0:02:36 | |
-..because his Grogg looked lush. | 0:02:37 | 0:02:40 | |
-People often say -to my wife Margaret... | 0:02:40 | 0:02:44 | |
-.."It doesn't look like Clive." | 0:02:44 | 0:02:48 | |
-She says to them, -"That's the man I married." | 0:02:49 | 0:02:52 | |
-It's exactly like the man I married. | 0:02:52 | 0:02:54 | |
-The Hughes family -are the guardians of the kingdom. | 0:02:55 | 0:02:58 | |
-The Groggmeister in the workshop -is Richard... | 0:02:59 | 0:03:03 | |
-..while sister Kathy runs the shop. | 0:03:03 | 0:03:07 | |
-But it was in the garden shed -of the late John Hughes... | 0:03:07 | 0:03:10 | |
-..that everything started. | 0:03:11 | 0:03:13 | |
-Dad just had an idea -when we were all kids. | 0:03:14 | 0:03:17 | |
-He was working, -doing normal jobs and he decided... | 0:03:17 | 0:03:20 | |
-..he was going to give up work -and start making things out of clay. | 0:03:21 | 0:03:25 | |
-He had this idea of doing things -from the Old Testament... | 0:03:25 | 0:03:29 | |
-..and from the Mabinogion, -giants especially. | 0:03:29 | 0:03:32 | |
-Until he put them in rugby shirts... | 0:03:32 | 0:03:34 | |
-..people -didn't understand what they were. | 0:03:35 | 0:03:37 | |
-Once he made the conversion -into rugby, everybody clued up. | 0:03:38 | 0:03:41 | |
-John moved to this pub and -turned it into the World of Groggs. | 0:03:42 | 0:03:46 | |
-The building's been painted -in Wales' colours... | 0:03:46 | 0:03:49 | |
-..and has become -an altar for all things Welsh. | 0:03:50 | 0:03:53 | |
-It's welcomed many stars -through its doors over the years. | 0:03:56 | 0:04:00 | |
-A tradition that still continues. | 0:04:03 | 0:04:06 | |
-I think it was after the World Cup. | 0:04:06 | 0:04:09 | |
-Rhys Priestland and I went there. | 0:04:10 | 0:04:14 | |
-You go upstairs and you're -photographed from every angle. | 0:04:14 | 0:04:19 | |
-Then you're -shown around the museum... | 0:04:19 | 0:04:22 | |
-..and you see photos -of the boys who've gone before you. | 0:04:22 | 0:04:26 | |
-It's a great experience. | 0:04:26 | 0:04:30 | |
-I remember going to the shop -back in '89. | 0:04:33 | 0:04:36 | |
-Seven or eight Wales players... | 0:04:36 | 0:04:38 | |
-..had been selected... | 0:04:38 | 0:04:41 | |
-..for the Lions tour to Australia. | 0:04:41 | 0:04:46 | |
-John and Richard made Groggs -of us all in Lions' jerseys. | 0:04:46 | 0:04:50 | |
-You go inside -and it's like a museum. | 0:04:50 | 0:04:53 | |
-There are shirts -from people like Phil Bennett... | 0:04:53 | 0:04:59 | |
-..and the All Blacks -from the 1960s and 1970s. | 0:04:59 | 0:05:02 | |
-You get to see the -very first Groggs that were made. | 0:05:03 | 0:05:07 | |
-You also get to see the other -players you're lined up with... | 0:05:08 | 0:05:13 | |
-..who've had Groggs -made over the years. | 0:05:14 | 0:05:17 | |
-You go in for five minutes -and leave five hours later... | 0:05:18 | 0:05:21 | |
-..because there are -so many things to see. | 0:05:21 | 0:05:24 | |
-Some were just Groggs, -others had jerseys and things. | 0:05:25 | 0:05:28 | |
-The creators are very hospitable. | 0:05:29 | 0:05:32 | |
-They dedicate -so much of their to players... | 0:05:32 | 0:05:35 | |
-..and famous people... | 0:05:35 | 0:05:38 | |
-..to make these Groggs so good. | 0:05:38 | 0:05:42 | |
-It wasn't -just about what you looked like. | 0:05:42 | 0:05:46 | |
-They spoke to you and so on. | 0:05:46 | 0:05:49 | |
-It was more than just visual. -They got in here too. | 0:05:49 | 0:05:53 | |
-1969 was a turning point -in the history of the Groggs. | 0:05:53 | 0:05:56 | |
-A collection -went on sale for the first time... | 0:05:57 | 0:06:00 | |
-..after the Wales v England game. | 0:06:00 | 0:06:03 | |
-It was the Welsh turn to show them -what they should've done. | 0:06:03 | 0:06:07 | |
-Wales trounced the old enemy. | 0:06:07 | 0:06:09 | |
-In his elation, -one keen supporter bought the lot. | 0:06:09 | 0:06:13 | |
-It was obvious to John Hughes that -there was a future for the Groggs. | 0:06:14 | 0:06:19 | |
-The Wales coach that day -was Clive Rowlands. | 0:06:19 | 0:06:22 | |
-The game in '69 was -an important game for me as a coach. | 0:06:22 | 0:06:28 | |
-Wales on the attack again, -England weren't getting a look-in. | 0:06:33 | 0:06:36 | |
-Wales was completely on fire. | 0:06:37 | 0:06:40 | |
-The rugby was on fire, -Max was on fire, Gren was on fire. | 0:06:40 | 0:06:44 | |
-Groggs was just beginning. | 0:06:44 | 0:06:46 | |
-They had an ability. | 0:06:47 | 0:06:49 | |
-They had an ability -to make you smile at first... | 0:06:50 | 0:06:53 | |
-..but then you were pleased -to have them in your hand. | 0:06:54 | 0:06:57 | |
-The captain -was the young Sir Gareth. | 0:06:58 | 0:07:01 | |
-25 points to six, -and they weren't finished yet. | 0:07:01 | 0:07:04 | |
-He was the first ever player -to have a Grogg made of him. | 0:07:04 | 0:07:08 | |
-The Welsh scored 30, England -put on three penalty points... | 0:07:09 | 0:07:12 | |
-..but they were small consolation. | 0:07:12 | 0:07:15 | |
-There was -something artistic about it all... | 0:07:16 | 0:07:19 | |
-..because it didn't resemble -what you looked like. | 0:07:19 | 0:07:23 | |
-Everyone had an opinion about it. | 0:07:24 | 0:07:27 | |
-People's opinions varied. | 0:07:27 | 0:07:29 | |
-I remember people saying, -"What do you think of those Groggs? | 0:07:29 | 0:07:33 | |
-"They look nothing like you." | 0:07:33 | 0:07:35 | |
-But I supported... | 0:07:36 | 0:07:38 | |
-..John's creations. | 0:07:39 | 0:07:42 | |
-I'd say, -"That's not what it's all about. | 0:07:42 | 0:07:45 | |
-"It's an artist's impression." | 0:07:45 | 0:07:49 | |
-People -who'd had a Grogg made of them... | 0:07:49 | 0:07:54 | |
-..felt more important -than those who hadn't had one made. | 0:07:54 | 0:07:59 | |
-The more successful they became... | 0:08:00 | 0:08:03 | |
-..the more the people -who weren't in the shop... | 0:08:03 | 0:08:06 | |
-..who weren't made into Groggs... | 0:08:07 | 0:08:10 | |
-..the more -they wanted a Grogg made of them. | 0:08:10 | 0:08:13 | |
-John created the Groggs. | 0:08:13 | 0:08:16 | |
-He'd created a different world. | 0:08:16 | 0:08:20 | |
-You felt -as though the Groggs were alive. | 0:08:20 | 0:08:25 | |
-Before the JPRs and the Geralds... | 0:08:25 | 0:08:28 | |
-..John created -another special Wales team. | 0:08:28 | 0:08:31 | |
-But these were from his imagination. -Welcome to the Uglies. | 0:08:32 | 0:08:36 | |
-They might not have been -as successful as the real team... | 0:08:36 | 0:08:41 | |
-..but they still frightened -the opposition on the pitch. | 0:08:41 | 0:08:45 | |
-They were world famous, weren't -they? In their own minds, at least! | 0:08:45 | 0:08:50 | |
-What's he talking about? We Uglies -should be on the top shelf. | 0:08:51 | 0:08:56 | |
-We were the ones out in the rain -and mud every Saturday... | 0:08:56 | 0:09:01 | |
-..in our heavy boots and sharp -studs, shouting at each other. | 0:09:01 | 0:09:06 | |
-What did you say? | 0:09:06 | 0:09:08 | |
-Shouting on the pitch, -not in the pub, you idiot! | 0:09:08 | 0:09:11 | |
-We never came last, mind you. -We always came second. | 0:09:12 | 0:09:15 | |
-Never second in the punch throwing! | 0:09:16 | 0:09:18 | |
-In the early '80s, with Wales' -successes on the pitch... | 0:09:21 | 0:09:25 | |
-..not quite reaching -the high points of the '70s... | 0:09:25 | 0:09:29 | |
-..John and Richard decided they -couldn't only rely on Welsh Groggs. | 0:09:29 | 0:09:33 | |
-It was time -to reach for the passport. | 0:09:34 | 0:09:37 | |
-The Groggs -travelled around the world. | 0:09:37 | 0:09:41 | |
-Everyone knows about -this little shop in Pontypridd... | 0:09:41 | 0:09:45 | |
-..and what they do. | 0:09:45 | 0:09:49 | |
-I know David Campese well. | 0:09:50 | 0:09:54 | |
-I think he likes the fact... | 0:09:55 | 0:09:59 | |
-..that his Grogg -stands in a shop in Pontypridd. | 0:09:59 | 0:10:02 | |
-I was in the Italians' museum... | 0:10:04 | 0:10:06 | |
-..about 100 kilometres from Rome... | 0:10:07 | 0:10:11 | |
-..and that's where they were. | 0:10:11 | 0:10:14 | |
-From Parisse -to players before his time. | 0:10:14 | 0:10:20 | |
-Wales players, New Zealand players. | 0:10:20 | 0:10:24 | |
-In the corner, it caught my eye -as soon as I walked in... | 0:10:24 | 0:10:28 | |
-..was a small Grogg of Sid Going... | 0:10:28 | 0:10:33 | |
-..a former All Blacks player -from my era. | 0:10:33 | 0:10:36 | |
-He was one of the world's -greatest scrum-halves. | 0:10:36 | 0:10:39 | |
-I spotted a Grogg of me -in the other corner. | 0:10:40 | 0:10:43 | |
-I was surprised it was there. -They're everywhere. | 0:10:43 | 0:10:46 | |
-It was bad enough being pushed aside -by players like Gerald and JPR... | 0:10:46 | 0:10:51 | |
-..let alone foreign players like -Serge Blanco and Big Mouth Campese. | 0:10:51 | 0:10:58 | |
-And those big faces. | 0:10:58 | 0:11:01 | |
-He's an Englishman, not a Frenchman. | 0:11:01 | 0:11:03 | |
-You mean Billy Big Mouth. | 0:11:04 | 0:11:06 | |
-It could be worse. -Imagine if they did footballers. | 0:11:06 | 0:11:09 | |
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-Subtitles | 0:11:17 | 0:11:17 | |
-Subtitles - -Subtitles | 0:11:17 | 0:11:19 | |
-The Groggs -are 50 years old this year. | 0:11:22 | 0:11:25 | |
-Over the years, rugby's biggest -stars have all been Grogged. | 0:11:25 | 0:11:31 | |
-But they aren't -the only privileged ones. | 0:11:31 | 0:11:34 | |
-There have also been -rock stars, boxers... | 0:11:34 | 0:11:37 | |
-..and even footballers -who've grabbed the limelight. | 0:11:37 | 0:11:42 | |
-It's over for us Uglies. | 0:11:53 | 0:11:56 | |
-Footballers, rock stars, -politicians too. | 0:11:56 | 0:12:00 | |
-Police? Where? I got the jewellery -from the Cockneys. They're not mine. | 0:12:00 | 0:12:05 | |
-Cushty! | 0:12:06 | 0:12:08 | |
-Politicians, not police! | 0:12:09 | 0:12:11 | |
-They're sitting in the back. | 0:12:11 | 0:12:13 | |
-He takes his dog everywhere and -she's always dressed for a fight. | 0:12:14 | 0:12:18 | |
-I can't even go for a dance now - -the drunk man's sliding around. | 0:12:20 | 0:12:25 | |
-The quiff's hogging the karaoke. | 0:12:26 | 0:12:28 | |
-You can forget the darts. | 0:12:29 | 0:12:31 | |
-Do you feel lucky? | 0:12:32 | 0:12:34 | |
-Do you? Prop? | 0:12:34 | 0:12:36 | |
-They even Grogg referees nowadays. | 0:12:38 | 0:12:41 | |
-Referees? | 0:12:41 | 0:12:44 | |
-I wasn't -the first referee to be Grogged. | 0:12:44 | 0:12:47 | |
-Clive Norling and Derek Bevan -had a Grogg made of them.... | 0:12:47 | 0:12:51 | |
-..but I was the first referee -whose Grogg went on sale. | 0:12:51 | 0:12:55 | |
-I was refereeing in Australia -last year or the year before. | 0:12:55 | 0:12:59 | |
-Some of the Australian players, -I think it was James O'Connor... | 0:12:59 | 0:13:03 | |
-..who told me that he and Pocock... | 0:13:04 | 0:13:07 | |
-..had been to the Grogg shop -to have a Grogg made. | 0:13:08 | 0:13:11 | |
-While they were there -they saw my Grogg. | 0:13:11 | 0:13:14 | |
-Three weeks after they'd been to the -Grogg shop, I was refereeing them... | 0:13:15 | 0:13:20 | |
-..during the autumn internationals. | 0:13:20 | 0:13:23 | |
-They said -they'd seen my Grogg before a game. | 0:13:23 | 0:13:26 | |
-They didn't pass comment in case -I sent them off during the game. | 0:13:27 | 0:13:31 | |
-They wear microphones now. | 0:13:32 | 0:13:34 | |
-Lucky there were none in my day. | 0:13:34 | 0:13:36 | |
-I know someone who has a wardrobe -assistant and wears hair gel. | 0:13:36 | 0:13:41 | |
-That's not me. -I don't wear hair gel. | 0:13:41 | 0:13:44 | |
-I wear wax -because my hair gets in a mess. | 0:13:44 | 0:13:47 | |
-Wax keeps it stiff -to keep it in place. | 0:13:47 | 0:13:50 | |
-They'll be on TV programmes next, -trying to make people laugh. | 0:13:52 | 0:13:57 | |
-You're lucky I'm not refereeing -you, otherwise you'd be in trouble. | 0:13:58 | 0:14:03 | |
-How does he know we're here? | 0:14:03 | 0:14:05 | |
-How does he know we're here? - -Maybe the club installed a ref cam! | 0:14:05 | 0:14:08 | |
-Grogg is a type of clay. | 0:14:12 | 0:14:14 | |
-Over the years, the Groggs -have changed their appearance. | 0:14:14 | 0:14:18 | |
-The old type of clay, -the scars and the blood... | 0:14:19 | 0:14:23 | |
-..have disappeared. | 0:14:23 | 0:14:25 | |
-When my dad first started making -figures, everything was unique. | 0:14:26 | 0:14:30 | |
-It was a one-off thing. -It was fired in a kiln and glazed. | 0:14:30 | 0:14:34 | |
-That was it, in a world of its own. | 0:14:35 | 0:14:37 | |
-But then -we went to moulds quite early. | 0:14:37 | 0:14:40 | |
-But they were plaster moulds -for clay figures. | 0:14:40 | 0:14:44 | |
-Now we've changed to resin, -but that allows us... | 0:14:45 | 0:14:49 | |
-..to do a lot more detailed work. | 0:14:49 | 0:14:51 | |
-It allows me -a lot more freedom as a modeller. | 0:14:51 | 0:14:54 | |
-But there are a few things -missing on some players. | 0:14:56 | 0:15:00 | |
-People wanted my Grogg -with a scrum cap on... | 0:15:02 | 0:15:05 | |
-..but my mother wanted it without. | 0:15:05 | 0:15:07 | |
-I only wear a scrum cap to play... | 0:15:08 | 0:15:11 | |
-..to make me -look like an action man. | 0:15:11 | 0:15:15 | |
-On a statue -it was visually different. | 0:15:15 | 0:15:19 | |
-But I'm quite happy with my arms. -I work hard on them. | 0:15:20 | 0:15:24 | |
-I think they're just about perfect. | 0:15:25 | 0:15:28 | |
-I took stick from Jamie -because he's losing his hair. | 0:15:28 | 0:15:32 | |
-His first Grogg has lots of hair. | 0:15:32 | 0:15:35 | |
-They need to do another one with -less hair on the top of his head! | 0:15:36 | 0:15:40 | |
-It's a good resemblance... | 0:15:41 | 0:15:43 | |
-..but I don't know if my nose -is quite as long as that... | 0:15:44 | 0:15:48 | |
-..and my ears quite that big... | 0:15:49 | 0:15:51 | |
-..but it's a close resemblance. | 0:15:51 | 0:15:54 | |
-The best thing is... | 0:15:54 | 0:15:56 | |
-..the guns and the legs, the quads, -are in proportion. | 0:15:56 | 0:16:00 | |
-It's not only -the bodies and faces... | 0:16:03 | 0:16:05 | |
-..that drew Richard and John's -attention in the early days. | 0:16:06 | 0:16:10 | |
-I was the coach -and I had a cigarette in my hand! | 0:16:10 | 0:16:14 | |
-He'd captured me perfectly. -The Grogg was large. | 0:16:14 | 0:16:19 | |
-I don't know how he did it -but I was so pleased to have it. | 0:16:19 | 0:16:23 | |
-You won't believe this -but I don't have it any more. | 0:16:23 | 0:16:27 | |
-A gust of wind -blew through the house... | 0:16:27 | 0:16:30 | |
-..and knocked over the Grogg -causing the head to fall off. | 0:16:30 | 0:16:34 | |
-While some people -lose their heads... | 0:16:35 | 0:16:38 | |
-..some players -have been a headache for Richard. | 0:16:38 | 0:16:41 | |
-One man in particular... | 0:16:41 | 0:16:44 | |
-..who's altered his appearance -numerous times over the years. | 0:16:44 | 0:16:48 | |
-I think this Grogg was the first one -the Grogg shop made of me. | 0:16:48 | 0:16:54 | |
-To tell you the truth... | 0:16:54 | 0:16:58 | |
-..it looks perfect... | 0:16:58 | 0:17:00 | |
-..because I remember my first cap. | 0:17:00 | 0:17:03 | |
-The jersey was too big. | 0:17:03 | 0:17:06 | |
-I looked about 11 years old. | 0:17:06 | 0:17:08 | |
-Graham Henry and Steve Hansen said I -wasn't big enough to play for Wales. | 0:17:08 | 0:17:14 | |
-So I worked hard... | 0:17:14 | 0:17:17 | |
-..and in 2005 I had this hairstyle. | 0:17:17 | 0:17:20 | |
-More hair, and I looked a bit older. | 0:17:20 | 0:17:24 | |
-I gained a bit of weight... | 0:17:24 | 0:17:26 | |
-..and the jersey's quite tight -on me, so I was happy with this. | 0:17:26 | 0:17:30 | |
-My boots have been silver... | 0:17:31 | 0:17:33 | |
-..gold, yellow... | 0:17:33 | 0:17:35 | |
-..pink, green. | 0:17:35 | 0:17:37 | |
-Afterwards, in 2008... | 0:17:38 | 0:17:39 | |
-..that Grogg was made too. | 0:17:40 | 0:17:43 | |
-I had more muscles and a six-pack. | 0:17:43 | 0:17:46 | |
-The hairstyle's different. -I've probably lost a bit of hair. | 0:17:46 | 0:17:51 | |
-I was nervous about the ears -because my ears stick out a bit. | 0:17:51 | 0:17:55 | |
-But fair play -to Richard and everyone... | 0:17:55 | 0:17:59 | |
-..they've got it spot on. | 0:17:59 | 0:18:01 | |
-With Richard in the process -of making another Grogg of him... | 0:18:01 | 0:18:06 | |
-..he hopes the beard doesn't stay. | 0:18:06 | 0:18:09 | |
-We'd just finished a figure of him -and Shane'd either shave his head... | 0:18:09 | 0:18:14 | |
-..or he'd grow a beard. | 0:18:15 | 0:18:17 | |
-I'd be pulling -what's left of my hair out! | 0:18:17 | 0:18:21 | |
-Something -I'm looking for all the time... | 0:18:21 | 0:18:24 | |
-..is a change -in personality and looks. | 0:18:24 | 0:18:28 | |
-It keeps me on my toes. | 0:18:29 | 0:18:31 | |
-Even the props' bellies -are flatter these days. | 0:18:31 | 0:18:35 | |
-Where are the props' bellies hiding? | 0:18:37 | 0:18:40 | |
-They can't possibly be trai... | 0:18:41 | 0:18:43 | |
-..trai... training. | 0:18:43 | 0:18:46 | |
-Pushover Pugh said he'd seen one -of them coming out of a yoga class. | 0:18:47 | 0:18:52 | |
-A prop's job -is to throw punches, not train. | 0:18:53 | 0:18:57 | |
-There's only one sort of six-pack -a prop should be thinking about. | 0:18:57 | 0:19:02 | |
-Looking ahead to the World Cup... | 0:19:05 | 0:19:08 | |
-..Richard will be keeping an eye -on the star players... | 0:19:08 | 0:19:12 | |
-..to pick out -the next Grogg among them. | 0:19:12 | 0:19:14 | |
-Many players -have excelled over the years. | 0:19:15 | 0:19:19 | |
-Wales' dream begins. | 0:19:26 | 0:19:28 | |
-It's easy to be confident -about your own team, and I am. | 0:19:33 | 0:19:38 | |
-I think Wales -has a very strong team. | 0:19:38 | 0:19:42 | |
-What they've shown in recent years -is that they're difficult to beat. | 0:19:42 | 0:19:47 | |
-They're a hard team to beat, -so there's no reason why Wales... | 0:19:47 | 0:19:51 | |
-..can't go far in the competition. | 0:19:52 | 0:19:54 | |
-If Wales win their group... | 0:19:54 | 0:19:56 | |
-..they have to beat Australia -or England, or both of them... | 0:19:57 | 0:20:04 | |
-..we've a good chance -of reaching the final. | 0:20:04 | 0:20:10 | |
-If Wales play well, they'll go far, -but they have to play well. | 0:20:11 | 0:20:16 | |
-One of their group -will win the championship. | 0:20:16 | 0:20:19 | |
-England... | 0:20:20 | 0:20:22 | |
-..Australia or Wales. | 0:20:22 | 0:20:24 | |
-Player to player, they're good -enough to reach the quarter-finals. | 0:20:25 | 0:20:30 | |
-The hardest game will be -against England at Twickenham... | 0:20:30 | 0:20:35 | |
-..but they're good enough -to win that game... | 0:20:35 | 0:20:38 | |
-..and I know they're good enough -to beat Australia. | 0:20:39 | 0:20:42 | |
-After that, who knows? | 0:20:42 | 0:20:44 | |
-John Hughes has certainly -put Wales and Groggs... | 0:20:47 | 0:20:51 | |
-..on the map. | 0:20:51 | 0:20:53 | |
-Nobody could've predicted the future -for this small shop in Pontypridd. | 0:20:54 | 0:21:00 | |
-But Groggs are known -throughout the world. | 0:21:01 | 0:21:04 | |
-There are people around the world -who are Grogg collectors. | 0:21:05 | 0:21:09 | |
-It surprises me -when I travel around the world... | 0:21:09 | 0:21:14 | |
-..and around the country, people -come out of every nook and cranny... | 0:21:14 | 0:21:19 | |
-..and ask me to sign their Grogg. | 0:21:19 | 0:21:22 | |
-It's 50 years old. | 0:21:22 | 0:21:25 | |
-You might think -it was older than that... | 0:21:26 | 0:21:28 | |
-..because it was very, very -important for Welsh people... | 0:21:29 | 0:21:34 | |
-..to have a Grogg. | 0:21:34 | 0:21:36 | |
-The concept is clever, in itself. | 0:21:37 | 0:21:42 | |
-To turn out -to be something famous... | 0:21:42 | 0:21:47 | |
-..all over the world. | 0:21:47 | 0:21:50 | |
-World-famous people -have had Groggs made of themselves. | 0:21:50 | 0:21:54 | |
-That's very special. | 0:21:54 | 0:21:56 | |
-I wonder if there's a way back to -the World of Groggs for the Uglies? | 0:21:59 | 0:22:03 | |
-They are the original Groggs, -so they're always in our heart. | 0:22:06 | 0:22:09 | |
-Who knows, -one day they'll make a comeback. | 0:22:10 | 0:22:13 | |
-I'd like to make some, -just thinking about them now. | 0:22:13 | 0:22:16 | |
-I'm sorry you didn't get -the attention you deserved. | 0:22:16 | 0:22:20 | |
-I, myself, along with JPR... | 0:22:20 | 0:22:22 | |
-..JJ and Gerald, -we all said at the time... | 0:22:23 | 0:22:26 | |
-..that we're so pleased -that John created Groggs of us... | 0:22:26 | 0:22:30 | |
-..because you were -the real stars of that era. | 0:22:30 | 0:22:34 | |
-HE SOBS | 0:22:35 | 0:22:37 | |
-Are you crying? | 0:22:41 | 0:22:43 | |
-Don't be silly, -something's stuck in my throat. | 0:22:43 | 0:22:47 | |
-Boys, we're on the comeback trail! | 0:22:47 | 0:22:50 | |
-S4C Subtitles by Adnod Cyf. | 0:23:14 | 0:23:16 | |
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