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-You want something to do?

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-You want something to do?

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-Put that through all of those.

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-Use your head now.

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-Everyday life?

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-We're part of the lives

-of the four children.

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-We've got four... We've got three

-grandsons and one granddaughter.

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-We're very busy with them.

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-You'd better put these on,

-just in case.

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-Sometimes you're useful when you

-introduce them to someone special.

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-Yeah. Gareth Bale and Rob Brydon.

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-I've been fishing since

-I was a very little boy.

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-I was five years old...

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-..with a bamboo pole...

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-..in the river behind the house

-in Gwaun-Cae-Gurwen.

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-The river was as black as this.

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-We're lucky.

-Our two sons live close by.

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-Rhys is in Llantrisant

-and Owain's in Pontyclun.

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-We meet up regularly.

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-They have lunch with us regularly,

-that's important, isn't it.

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-Don't flick,

-you've got enough time.

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-Hold it back.

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-Tick-tock.

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-A teacher in school taught me

-how to fish.

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-I remember it, and I wasn't older

-than Tommy.

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-Tick-tock.

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-Tick-tock...

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-Over half-way. The kick ahead

-by Edwards. Can he score?

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-It would be a miracle if he could.

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-He may well get there, and he has.

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-Tick-tock.

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-Tick-tock.

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-Do you know what?

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-You're the best one for listening

-to me about that.

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-Gareth Edwards at 70

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-The 1970s.

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-When the giants played rugby.

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-Benny...

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-..JJ, JPR and Gerald...

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-..Grav, and of course...

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-..the prince.

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-I can see us coming down

-the stairs.

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-You'd try, right...

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-"Good luck, boys, good luck."

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-"Remember not to lose."

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-Gareth Edwards.

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-A name and icon who's now part

-of the Welsh landscape.

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-For the experts, he's the best

-player in the history of the game.

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-For the nation, an inspiration

-to generation after generation.

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-People would slap you

-on your back...

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-..and, "Don't let us down now,

-boys, don't let us down."

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-If you didn't realize at the time

-you were representing Wales...

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-..by the time you arrived

-at the pitch...

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-..you knew exactly what it meant

-to people.

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-Every legend has its roots.

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-But the root of this one -

-Gwaun-Cae-Gurwen.

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-Bordering the Beacons,

-valleys and meadows...

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-..the language was Welsh

-and the work was coal.

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-This is where I was born.

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-It was the same place at the time

-I was born and raised as it is now.

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-When I come here, I'm coming home.

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-I had a very happy upbringing.

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-We lived in a small house,

-it didn't have many rooms...

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-..for you to have time alone.

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-We slept together

-when we were children.

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-Yes, we only had one room.

-Gloria was in the other room.

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-But it was part of life.

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-It wasn't something where you said,

-"Why have they got...?"

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-That's how all our friends lived.

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-We'd walk to school every morning.

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-I remember sliding to school,

-we wore hobnailed boots.

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-Then you were pulled along.

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-Like a chariot.

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-Like a chariot.

-

-And sparks would come up.

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-What I believe more than

-anything...

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-..is that these miners

-in every village...

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-..were special people,

-that's all I can say.

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-They were all special people.

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-But at the same time,

-you didn't want your son...

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-..to work underground with you.

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-Working in the pits, and I realized

-this as a boy...

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-..was extremely hard work.

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-You felt that's what

-your future held.

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-You couldn't see further than that.

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-I didn't think for one second

-that I'd play for Wales.

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-That was all ahead of me.

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-You name it, we've played

-every game under the sun here.

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-We scored the best goals

-that have ever been scored.

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-Gareth Bale has never scored

-the goals we scored!

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-I could hear my father's voice

-coming from about 200 yards away.

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-"Gareth and Gethin, bed."

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-"Dad, Dad, we've nearly finished.

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-"Winning goal! Winning goal!"

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-Geth, do you remember, the

-winning goal took so long.

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-Half an hour? Three quarters?

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-We were all competing

-and that's what was important.

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-Competing on the field not on paper

-was the priority.

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-He received his secondary education

-at Pontardawe Technical School...

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-..and it was there that two

-important relationships flourished.

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-When did we meet?

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-Right, school. 13? 14?

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-Then I went out with him

-to the cinema.

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-I don't remember which film it was.

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-We had a...

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-His friend was going out

-with my friend...

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-..and we wanted a group, that's why

-I went out with him really.

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-I told some, he was the last one

-left in the village!

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-And now you're 70.

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-But I'm not 70.

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-It's Gareth who's 70.

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-I will be next month!

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-Gareth was mentored in Pontardawe

-by the teacher, Bill Samuel.

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-An individual who proved to be

-a key influence.

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-I have to say that he'd taught him

-exceptionally well.

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-Not just about rugby

-but how the body works...

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-..the strength, movement, speed.

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-But the young pupil didn't just

-shine with the oval ball.

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-He was a Welsh athletics

-champion...

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-..and he was given the chance to

-join Swansea Football Club.

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-That was one thing

-about Gareth Edwards...

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-..he was talented in nearly

-everything he did.

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-But good grief,

-he worked hard on his game...

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-..to make it even better.

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-I have to say that stemmed from...

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-..the guidance of Bill Samuel...

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-..especially the help he got

-to get into Millfield.

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-Millfield Prep School in Somerset.

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-The best education

-for the highest price.

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-Only the most privileged

-could attend.

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-But somehow, thanks to the

-persistence of Bill Samuel...

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-..and support from

-the head, Boss Myers...

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-..a miner's son was about to

-receive a private education.

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-I remember Dad going down there and

-there were Rolls Royce...

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-..Bentleys, Jaguars everywhere.

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-Everything like that.

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-And there he was in his

-Morris Cowley...

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-..and he was as proud

-as anyone else there.

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-Where was he going to park?

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-Of course, just like everything

-in Millfield...

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-..it didn't matter what you had,

-someone was always better off.

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-Gareth would also send his sons,

-Rhys and Owen, to the same school.

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-50 years after the young Edwards

-crossed the Severn...

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-..for the first time the three are

-on another pilgrimage to Millfield.

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-I remember this man...

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-..who taught at the school

-when you were there.

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-He was quite old by the time

-I turned up.

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-He was the trampolining teacher.

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-He was the trampolining teacher.

-

-Oh, yes!

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-"I remember your father in school.

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-"He turned up,

-asked what they were doing."

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-They had been working on some

-triple somersault...

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-..with a triple pike or whatever!

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-Gareth Edwards jumped

-on the trampoline...

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-..and did the bloomin' thing

-first time.

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-In the rugby team about seven or

-eight different countries...

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-..were represent...represent...

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-Represento!

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-"Cynrychioli!"

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-Imagine - "I represento Wales!"

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-Remember when we played football

-in the garden...

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-..and some fathers would have a

-shot you had a chance at saving.

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-But Dad would tee up...

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-He'd shoot a real howitzer.

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-And if you held onto it, he'd be

-like Hotshot Hamish...

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-..right in the back of the net.

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-Where am I here?

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-Where am I here?

-

-Left!

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-Rhys, where an earth

-do you think you are?

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-Go round and back up there.

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-Go round and back up there.

-

-Up there.

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-Well done, Rhys, you've parked

-half on one, half on the other.

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-Iesu Mawr! How much

-do you want to bet on it?

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-If Gareth Edwards was created

-in Gwaun...

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-..his character

-was formed in Millfield.

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-The miner's son from South Wales

-had to cope with the challenge...

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-..of socialising with the rich

-and privileged.

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-What helped me was...

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-..there was a rugby camp

-a week before term started.

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-We all came together to prepare

-for the rugby season.

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-By the end of the week...

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-..I knew some of the more

-important boys in the school.

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-The prefects and so on.

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-I was comfortable

-before term started...

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-..so that was the biggest help

-to me.

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-I'd never heard about the school

-before.

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-He asked me if I'd write to him.

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-I said, "We'll see", because

-I don't like writing.

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-That's how it was.

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-I went down there to visit him

-at the school.

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-Strange place.

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-He came back once, I don't know

-if he told you the story...

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-..and he started to talk

-quite posh.

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-My sisters were round listening

-to him and he said...

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-"Actually", he said like that...

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-..and we all started laughing

-at him straight away.

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-I'll never forget that.

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-If Millfield has an expertise

-today...

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-..then it's on the physical side.

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-You have been given

-an opportunity...

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-There are 28 different

-sporting departments.

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-Every one has a specialist head,

-from horse riding to golf...

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-..and of course, rugby.

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-Some of you will be playing

-for enjoyment.

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-Enjoy the opportunity, make

-the most of it and good luck.

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-Thank you.

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-The list of the school's successes

-is long.

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-Politicians, kings, champions

-and business people.

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-But even now, 50 years later...

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-..it's Gareth Edwards

-who's the most prominent.

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-Because he'd gone to Millfield,

-gone to that kind of school...

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-..he was away from home

-for a long time.

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-So you needed strength and

-personality to be on your own...

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-..and you also needed

-to be determined.

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-It was important to be independent

-and I think that was in Gareth.

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-He grabbed the opportunity

-with both hands.

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-How are you? Are you well?

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-The reality of Gareth Edwards' life

-means someone always wants a chat.

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-Be it a stranger, an old friend

-or even a familiar face.

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-The youngsters, the players

-that he addressed today...

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-..don't really realize

-what a legend the man is.

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-So, I think they're lucky to have

-role models like himself...

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-..but also guys like Chris Robshaw,

-Vunipola, Jonathan Joseph...

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-..all these guys that are

-currently in the England team...

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-..all came from Millfield.

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-It's produced some legendary

-rugby players.

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-I think the boys will realize

-when they look on YouTube.

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-What's YouTube?

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-1966.

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-Rather than return to the West to

-either Swansea or Llanelli...

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-..he turned his sights towards the

-bright lights of the capital.

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-The game was amateur so there was

-no money to attract players.

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-But after accepting advice

-from Bill Samuel, he chose Cardiff.

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-He had played for Cardiff

-and he also remembered...

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-..how professional they were.

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-Not through wages, only through

-the way they played...

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-..the way they looked after

-the players.

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-He said, the more I think about it,

-Cardiff's the club for you.

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-I was glad, just like Gareth

-was I'm sure...

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-..glad about that side of things.

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-There were rumours in the past

-among some clubs...

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-..that money changed hands

-under the table.

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-But that never happened in Cardiff.

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-Cardiff's mind-set

-was professionalism.

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-Boys, that's what you call

-bloody spoiling them.

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-Fine, thanks.

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-Look at that, look at that!

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-In my time, the changing rooms

-were over here.

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-I remember...

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-..running on the spot,

-a few press-ups...

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-.."Alright, boys?",

-"Let's go now."

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-That would be a warm up!

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-It's a totally different world.

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-When we played away from home,

-we had to behave ourselves...

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-..we had to respect where we were,

-of the people we were with.

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-The club taught you that.

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-And also, the older players,

-many of them were teachers...

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-..they'd say,

-this is how Cardiff behave...

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-..when we're away from home.

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-Don't you have anything else to do?

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-Don't you have anything else to do?

-

-No!

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-It's hard to describe it,

-I felt at home.

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-The reason why so many players

-came to Cardiff...

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-..was because they could find work

-in the city.

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-People worked in large companies.

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-There were opportunities

-to be had here.

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-COMMENTARY:

-Into the space, a 50/50

-ball and Edwards wins it.

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-And that's going to be a first try

-for Cardiff.

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-A pure solo effort

-by Gareth Edwards.

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-You never remember enjoying

-the moment...

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-..maybe you'd scored a try.

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-You'd go over the game and think,

-"I made a mistake there"...

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-.."I shouldn't have done that."

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-But I think that's how people tend

-to look back at their games.

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-They're their own worst critic.

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-I think I was quite harsh

-on myself.

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-He wanted be to perfect

-in everything he did...

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-..especially when he played rugby.

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-If it wasn't perfect,

-he could be difficult.

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-He was hard on himself.

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-He'd get upset over everything.

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-He's still the same, really.

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-Whatever he does,

-he wants to do it right.

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-COMMENTATOR:

-Edwards, who gets through.

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-He could be in for a try.

-Edwards rubs it in.

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-That's the try that will seal...

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-I don't think there's ever been

-a perfect player.

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-Gareth himself would admit

-he wasn't perfect.

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-But he had the best skills

-we'd ever seen.

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-I played against him once,

-just once.

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-He was playing for the Barbarians

-against Swansea...

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-..and I was captaining Swansea.

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-It was a pleasure to play

-against him even then...

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-..when he was a youngster.

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-I think I told him he was too young

-to talk to me on the pitch.

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-We'll talk after the game!

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-He started to laugh

-and what did he do?

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-Score a try straight away. So I

-said to him, "Sorry, Gareth."

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-As it was an amateur game, he had

-to start a professional career.

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-The first step was college

-in Cardiff...

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-..and the challenge of balancing

-the academic and physical work.

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-Maureen said several times, "You

-never go out dancing on Fridays."

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-Not that I wanted to dance.

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-No, because I'd be thinking about

-the game I had on the Saturday.

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-But you know, every athlete

-or any sports person...

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-..has had to do that.

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-If you want to get to the top,

-you have to give something up.

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-I was working in Llanelli.

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-I was going out with this bloke

-who played for Cardiff.

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-I didn't tell anyone in Llanelli...

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-..or they wouldn't come to the shop

-to buy things.

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-COMMENTARY:

-And sheer delight

-for Gareth Edwards and Cardiff.

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-I remember sitting in the stand

-with my friends from Llanelli...

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-..and in the stand I shouted,

-"Come on, Cardiff!"

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-It slipped out.

-I'll never forget that.

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-I was talking to Peter Thomas

-tonight about the club...

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-..but once the game starts

-I feel as if I'm still playing.

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-I think, what would I do

-in that situation?

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-Once the game starts,

-I forget everything else.

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-I have to say, I'm pleased

-I don't have to play the game.

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-But I do enjoy watching it.

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-12 seasons, nearly 200 games

-and 50 tries...

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-..but only one club.

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-Gareth Edwards has been faithful

-to Cardiff.

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-Even today, he remains

-a member of the board.

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-He's probably the finest ambassador

-we've ever had.

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-He's a true icon in terms

-of the game itself.

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-Great love, great passion and

-everything he does is competitive.

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-That's the nature of the man.

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-When he goes back home,

-he doesn't do anything.

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-He relaxes, feet up

-and falls asleep.

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-So you can cope with everything

-then, can't you?

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-That's where he gets

-his energy from?

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-He can recharge.

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-You can recharge your battery when

-you're home so you're alright.

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-Come on!

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-Subtitles

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-This is Peter West saying good

-afternoon from Stade Colombes...

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-..where the sun is shining and the

-going will be dry and hard.

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-The man playing scrum-half, the

-young 19-year-old virtuoso...

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-..Gareth Edwards from Cardiff.

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-1st April 1967.

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-Stade Colombes, Paris.

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-And Gareth Edwards breaking

-on the open side.

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-Barely a year after leaving

-Millfield...

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-..Gareth Edwards won

-his first cap.

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-It's hard to believe.

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-I can't believe it.

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-I remember walking up here

-50 years ago.

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-It was incredible.

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-It was like you were in Rome,

-in the Coliseum.

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-I remember turning round

-and looking...

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-..and I saw someone in a red coat.

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-I'd never imagined that Maureen

-had come here overnight.

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-I felt better,

-I didn't feel so alone.

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-Here's this up and under

-from Gareth Edwards.

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-Gachassin doesn't fancy his chance

-of getting there so he stays back.

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-I'll never forget wearing the shirt

-for the first time.

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-I picked it up,

-I kissed the badge...

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-..because I couldn't believe it.

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-One minute I was playing

-for the college and Cardiff...

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-..and the next,

-I was playing for Wales.

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-There goes Dauga pounding in,

-back to Gareth Edwards...

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-..whose kicking under pressure

-today has been pretty well done.

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-It's one thing to be confident

-of your abilities...

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-..but you have to,

-every now and then think...

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-..am I good enough to play

-at this standard?

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-They have it going back.

-Gareth Edwards in the clear.

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-When I go out and meet people,

-and I'm talking at a dinner...

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-..I always prepare

-as much as I can.

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-But there's always

-a bit of nerves there.

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-I think that's important.

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-I don't think you can give your all

-unless you have that feeling.

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-Gareth Edwards trying

-to pound through.

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-Looks like a knock by John Taylor.

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-What I remember of the game

-is how quickly it went by.

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-I'd looked forward to it so much

-and then, the next thing I knew...

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-..the final whistle was blown

-and the game was over.

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-I asked, "What's happened?

-Is anybody injured?"

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-"No, that's it."

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-It looks as if Wales now

-are going to lose...

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-..their fifth

-consecutive international.

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-Oh, it's lovely...

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-..to think back.

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-Where have all the years gone?

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-Although internationals are not

-played at Stade Colombes now...

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-..it's still the stage for some of

-the biggest names in the game.

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-This is home to one of the world's

-richest clubs - Racing 92....

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-..and its world famous fly-half

-from New Zealand, Dan Carter.

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-Sir Gareth Edwards is

-a household name...

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-..that everyone knew

-in New Zealand.

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-Luckily enough I've been able

-to meet him...

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-..and get to know him

-off the field.

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-He's a genuine top man.

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-You're still enjoying it?

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-He had all the skills - running,

-passing, the kicking...

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-..that it takes to be

-a quality scrum-half.

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-I think he'd still be able to

-manage it in today's game...

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-..and I'd do anything

-to play alongside him.

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-Normally, I've got photographs

-of fish that I catch.

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-But this is special.

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-Gareth!

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-Gareth!

-

-Alright?

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-OK?

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-OK?

-

-Fine, thank you.

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-Looking great, fantastic.

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-Looking terrific.

-Look at the size him.

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-Bar Fred is the place to watch

-rugby in the centre of Paris.

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-It's also a second home to Gareth

-and his friends in the city.

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-Gareth have the...

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-Big heart.

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-Fantastic.

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-I didn't know how many times

-I played against Jean-Claude...

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-..so I looked back.

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-He was technically very strong.

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-He was very fast, he had quick

-feet, the heart and mind.

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-He had everything.

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-In our generation he was the

-best player in the world.

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-Typical JPR, he had to

-go to hospital...

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-..but he was back

-for the dinner.

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-For us he's a huge, huge man...

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-..as a rugby player.

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-He is the Pele.

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-Pele, for me, who stayed the

-greatest soccer player...

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-..he is the Pele of rugby.

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-Rugby's Pele or not, he wasn't

-certain of his place in the XV.

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-Five people chose the team

-back then - The Big Five.

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-We'd chosen the team

-on the Thursday night.

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-Then the phone rang

-and I answered it.

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-"Yeah, I know who it is.

-Gareth, it's you."

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-"Yes.

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-"Have I been selected

-for the next game?"

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-"You know I can't tell you.

-You'll find out tomorrow morning."

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-"Come on, we're both friends,

-come on.

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-"Am I in or not?"

-"I can't tell you."

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-"Oh, come on."

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-"OK, I can't say that you're in,

-but I can say you're not out."

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-He was alright then.

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-COMMENTARY:

-That looks like

-a heel against the head.

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-Gareth Edwards and he's over.

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-Every game I was in charge,

-Gareth was scrum-half.

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-I was the coach for six years and

-that tells you what I think of him.

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-It's incredible when you think he

-played 54 consecutive games.

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-Now, that would be impossible.

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-It's hard to believe.

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-Like the brightest

-collection of stars...

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-John Taylor.

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-..how could you inspire

-such a team?

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-When you think about it all.

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-John Taylor, very quiet.

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-Barry was chilled.

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-Dai Morris.

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-At one time, Clive was saying,

-"Look at him."

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-Dai was like this.

-"That's what it means to him."

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-Dai was listening to a horse race!

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-Grav, of course, was on his own.

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-Punching the wall,

-punching the boys.

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-"Alright, alright. Carlo! Carlo!"

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-I remember,

-Gerald would be sitting down...

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-..in the changing room.

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-"Do you think if the opposition

-could see us in here...

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-"..do you think

-they'd be scared of us?"

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-In the changing room it was easy

-to talk and motivate him.

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-Barry would be asleep

-in the corner.

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-So he says.

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-But Gareth was fire and brimstone.

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-And then the door would open and

-Clive Rowlands would be behind us.

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-"Go out there and do it

-for your family.

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-"Heart, family. Heart, heart."

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-"Yes, Clive."

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-John Taylor.

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-Phil Bennett. Edwards.

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-Despite the fame,

-he had to earn a crust.

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-He worked as a salesman

-for Dynevor Engineering.

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-That's what people today

-can't understand.

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-You had to spend time working

-not just playing rugby.

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-That was the norm.

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-I was teaching

-and playing for Wales.

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-Those were the rules and it was

-the same across the world...

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-..apart from New Zealand

-and South Africa.

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-And he went to the other side

-of the world...

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-..where he successfully starred

-for the Lions in '71 and '74.

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-COMMENTARY:

-Gareth Edwards.

-That's a good dummy.

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-What a magnificent run this is.

-That was genius.

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-Gareth Edwards was now

-a husband and father...

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-..as well as being an

-international icon.

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-But wearing different hats

-could be challenging.

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-I cheat, I cheat a lot.

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-I didn't make this bread,

-I bought it.

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-That's what the children like.

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-They love this olive bread.

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-I'd never heard of such a thing

-when I was growing up.

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-They like different things

-these days.

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-Gareth's away.

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-He's here when the children are

-here, he likes to be here then.

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-But he can't be here tonight,

-he's travelling.

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-I realize that it was hard

-at times...

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-..especially when the children

-were small...

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-..and to get them off

-to school and things like that.

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-I'd come back but

-then I'd have to leave again.

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-I could be away for a week.

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-Well, when we were first married...

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-..I was away for three months

-with the Lions.

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-That's very hard.

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-I was still in the hospital

-with Owen...

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-..and he went off for three months

-with the Lions.

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-That's how it was

-and you had to accept it.

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-That was it.

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-I came home with this new baby

-and I was very upset.

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-Luckily my sister was there

-and she said...

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-"Stop your nonsense,

-he's not dead."

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-OK, good point.

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-Gareth, you've been met

-at Heathrow by your wife.

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-I bet you're dying to see

-your baby son.

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-Yes. He was only four or five days

-old when I left the country.

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-At the time, when we were out

-with the Lions...

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-..it was two-and-a-half months,

-maybe three months.

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-It was important that you had

-understanding employers...

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-..who'd give you the time off.

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-As well as that,

-which was just as important...

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-..was to have support from

-the family, your wife...

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-..so you could follow your career.

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-Talk of the devil.

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-Hello, love.

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-You've just disturbed the filming.

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-Have I really? Have I spoiled it?

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-Yes, you've spoiled it.

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-To think what you went through,

-you'd go on tour for months.

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-I don't think I could handle that,

-that's crazy.

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-Being away from your family

-for so long.

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-And ten shillings. You don't

-remember what shillings were!

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-About 50 pence a week and as much

-beer as you could drink mind.

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-Brilliant.

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-Yeah. No, huge respect for you guys

-who were juggling a job...

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-..as well as playing.

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-When you'd go on tour you'd be away

-for months rather than weeks.

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-We find it hard when we're away

-for three or four weeks.

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-In the 12 years I played, I think

-there was only one year...

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-..when I didn't go on tour.

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-I'd hate to think I missed

-out on a lot.

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-But I don't want you to believe

-I'd change anything.

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-No, because I've been very happy

-and I've been very lucky.

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-I would never want to change

-anything.

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-We had a great time.

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-That time was special...

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-..because I was such

-good friends with the other women.

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-And then when they were older,

-Gareth never went to PTA meetings.

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-I did everything.

-And that's how it was then.

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-Your mother's coming later.

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-Success with the Lions, more than

-50 caps for his country...

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-..hardly any injuries and an MBE

-hanging around his neck.

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-Why would anyone want to end

-all of that?

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-Usually, when players retired like

-Gareth, like Phil Bennett...

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-..you had to think about the years

-ahead of you.

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-You had your family, a mortgage,

-a car to run.

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-So that's why people retired...

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-..when they turned 30 or 32.

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-You had to concentrate on the rest

-of your life.

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-He'd done what he'd set out to do,

-play for Wales and be successful.

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-Play for the Lions

-and be successful.

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-He started his career for Wales

-in 1967 and finished in 1978.

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-That's a long time.

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-There were lots of games to

-be played...

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-..to his high standards.

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-March 1978.

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-Over a decade since his first cap.

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-Once again, the opponents

-were France...

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-..with their influential flanker,

-Jean-Pierre Rives.

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-There was a Grand Slam to be won...

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-There was a Grand Slam to be won...

-

-Edwards with a drop goal.

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-..but Gareth had other matters

-on his mind.

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-Jean-Pierre said,

-"Gareth, today was your day."

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-He put his arm round me,

-he was pleased for me.

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-And he said, "But maybe next year

-in Paris, it will be mine."

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-And at that moment I thought,

-will there be a next year?

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-That's when I started to realize

-this could be the end.

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-Gareth Edwards has done it

-once more.

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-Jean-Pierre was right.

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-France would win the Grand Slam

-the following year...

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-..but without the presence

-of Gareth Edwards.

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-After further consideration he

-decided to retire from the game.

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-What do you want to see?

0:34:190:34:22

-There are pictures of fish

-all over the place.

0:34:220:34:25

-This room is so messy.

0:34:260:34:27

-This room is so messy.

-

-Do you want to move some of it?

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-Let them see how messy you are.

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-Let them see how messy you are.

-

-That was a 45 pounder.

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-But someone's beaten that record.

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-By about half a pound.

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-Back at a time with the miners.

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-You can see how much it meant

-to the miners.

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-I don't think those places

-exist any more.

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-That was down in Neath.

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-I remember walking

-into the Cardiff club...

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-..one of the men who welcomed us

-at the door said...

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-.."Congratulations, Sir Gareth."

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-I said, "Thanks."

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-And he said, "But you'll always be

-Gareth to us."

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-Don't think for a second

-that I don't...

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-It's an incredible honour.

0:35:160:35:18

-It's one I would have liked

-when Mam and Dad were around.

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-It's hard to believe that a miner's

-son from Gwaun-Cae-Gurwen...

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-..received this honour.

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-.

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-Subtitles

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-A competitive nature.

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-It doesn't diminish with age.

0:35:420:35:44

-Maybe the legs aren't as fast

-as they once were...

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-..but one sport

-keeps the fire going.

0:35:480:35:50

-A chance for the public to play

-with sports stars, for a price.

0:35:530:35:57

-The real reason?

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-You always try to win

-but we just want some fun.

0:35:590:36:04

-Maybe the dream of beating

-Tiger Woods has disappeared...

0:36:060:36:10

-..but for those

-who understand golf...

0:36:100:36:13

-..his handicap is less than ten.

0:36:130:36:15

-He's a professional?

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-For the less informed,

-that's a very high standard.

0:36:170:36:20

-It's of competition standard.

0:36:200:36:22

-Played golf with him a few times.

0:36:230:36:24

-For a man of his stature who's done

-everything there is in rugby...

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-..he takes his golf more seriously

-than anything else.

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-You think he'd take his foot

-off the gas a bit but no chance.

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-Very competitive, very skilful,

-great fun to play with too.

0:36:360:36:39

-It wasn't a popular game

-in the Valleys.

0:36:450:36:48

-Even though I went away to school

-in Millfield...

0:36:490:36:51

-..I wish I had learned

-a bit more about it.

0:36:520:36:55

-When I was playing, when I went

-away with the Lions...

0:36:550:36:59

-..for a long time, you were out

-in South Africa...

0:37:000:37:03

-..and you had an opportunity during

-the day to play the best courses...

0:37:030:37:08

-..that's where I started to play.

0:37:090:37:11

-After retiring from rugby...

0:37:130:37:15

-..it's a chance to be competitive.

0:37:160:37:19

-The adrenalin rush is still there.

0:37:190:37:21

-We still want to do our best.

0:37:220:37:25

-We want to play our best

-and try to beat our friends.

0:37:250:37:28

-If you play well,

-all he does is complain.

0:37:310:37:34

-If you lose your ball,

-he doesn't look for it.

0:37:340:37:37

-If he loses it, we look for it

-for ten minutes!

0:37:370:37:39

-That's how competitive he is.

-He wants to win everything.

0:37:400:37:43

-But no, I think we should

-all be like that.

0:37:430:37:45

-Of course, there's a lesson

-as well.

0:37:450:37:48

-Every time you think you're at your

-best and you're playing well...

0:37:480:37:53

-..he lets you know, hey, you're not

-as good as you think you are.

0:37:530:37:58

-He always shows you up,

-every now and again.

0:37:590:38:01

-Yes?

0:38:010:38:03

-Oh, Duw, Duw, Duw, Duw!

0:38:060:38:08

-There's no celebration today

-but with the competition over...

0:38:160:38:20

-..it's time to meet old friends

-and share stories.

0:38:210:38:24

-There are always stories.

0:38:240:38:26

-The first try I remember

-as a boy...

0:38:270:38:29

-..I was sitting with Auntie Nans

-in Mam-gu's front room...

0:38:290:38:33

-..and I think you scored a try in

-the corner against South Africa.

0:38:330:38:37

-When was that? Sixty...

0:38:370:38:39

-Oh, yes. '69, yes.

0:38:390:38:41

-'69, was it? That's the first

-try I saw on television.

0:38:410:38:44

-In the mud.

0:38:440:38:45

-I was covered in mud.

-You couldn't tell the difference...

0:38:460:38:49

-You scored a try

-in the left corner.

0:38:490:38:51

-That's the first try I ever saw

-on television.

0:38:510:38:54

-And you know what?

0:38:540:38:56

-It's strange, I did something

-that day...

0:38:560:38:58

-..and I don't think anyone's

-picked up on it since.

0:38:580:39:01

-I was with the people

-I worked with...

0:39:010:39:04

-..I was working full-time

-of course...

0:39:040:39:06

-..and we went to the International

-Nickel Company in Mond in Clydach.

0:39:060:39:11

-We were in the drawing office

-and one of the boys said to me...

0:39:110:39:15

-.."You know, if you score

-on Saturday...

0:39:150:39:19

-.."will you go like this so that

-I know you're doing it for me?"

0:39:190:39:23

-And that's what you did!

0:39:230:39:25

-I did it. I was walking back and

-I thought, "Why did I do that?"

0:39:250:39:29

-But the chap in Mond, well...

0:39:290:39:31

-..he's dined out on it ever since!

0:39:310:39:35

-And that's the essence of a career

-- stories and experiences.

0:39:380:39:42

-And although the games

-are now memories...

0:39:420:39:44

-..those memories are beneficial

-in business even today...

0:39:450:39:48

-..from his first job with the

-Dynevor Engineering Company...

0:39:480:39:52

-..to his various businesses today.

0:39:520:39:54

-It's a wonder that

-it's still there!

0:39:540:39:57

-That's an iconic photo,

-I would have thought.

0:39:570:40:01

-Once I finished playing,

-what I didn't have of course...

0:40:010:40:05

-..was the pressure of playing

-the sport and having to work.

0:40:050:40:10

-I used my fame to get through

-the door, to sell the wares.

0:40:100:40:13

-That's what it was, in a way.

0:40:140:40:16

-We had a network of people we knew

-all over the place.

0:40:170:40:20

-But of course,

-as you got more famous...

0:40:210:40:24

-..you could go outside that...

0:40:240:40:26

-..and you'd go in and meet people

-from big companies.

0:40:260:40:30

-I'd go to a dinner or something

-and say...

0:40:300:40:32

-.."Here's my card,

-come and see me."

0:40:330:40:36

-The relationship with the customer

-is crucial. In life in general.

0:40:360:40:40

-The world revolves

-around relationships.

0:40:400:40:43

-But that's what Gareth could do

-very effectively...

0:40:430:40:46

-..because of his personality,

-the way he was brought up...

0:40:460:40:50

-..and his circle of friends.

0:40:500:40:52

-At the end of the day,

-you had to have a message...

0:40:520:40:55

-..and you had to have something

-which would sell.

0:40:550:40:58

-You had to do your job in the end.

0:40:580:41:00

-The rules of the amateur game...

0:41:030:41:05

-..meant that you couldn't make

-any money from the game...

0:41:050:41:08

-..even from writing a book.

0:41:080:41:10

-When he published his

-autobiography...

0:41:100:41:13

-..he had to take advantage

-of his fame.

0:41:140:41:16

-Good evening and welcome to a

-new series of Question of Sport.

0:41:160:41:19

-We have two new captains.

0:41:200:41:21

-From soccer, the captain

-of England, Emlyn Hughes.

0:41:220:41:24

-And from rugby union,

-British Lion Gareth Edwards...

0:41:250:41:28

-..the most famous scrum-half

-in the world...

0:41:280:41:30

-..holder of a record number of caps

-for Wales...

0:41:310:41:33

-..and scorer of a record number

-of tries.

0:41:330:41:36

-The programme taught me a lot.

0:41:360:41:38

-You had to think under pressure,

-use a bit of humour.

0:41:380:41:41

-It was competitive.

-Emlyn always wanted to win.

0:41:410:41:45

-And I always wanted to win.

0:41:460:41:48

-You might have recognized him

-better if he was wearing a hat.

0:41:480:41:52

-If he's wearing a hat, Robin Hood!

0:41:520:41:54

-Are you going to stick with that?

0:41:550:41:57

-It's as good a guess as his!

0:41:580:42:01

-I thought it was difficult.

0:42:010:42:03

-I realized that when you

-went outside Wales...

0:42:030:42:07

-..you became more popular

-around the country.

0:42:070:42:10

-Some of them knew I'd played rugby

-but I saw a big difference...

0:42:100:42:13

-..when I went on Question of Sport.

0:42:140:42:16

-You don't see yourself as

-being different to anyone.

0:42:160:42:19

-I had a strong enough family

-at home.

0:42:190:42:23

-They'd never ever let you think

-that you were something different.

0:42:230:42:29

-At the end of the day, when I went

-back to Gwaun-Cae-Gurwen...

0:42:290:42:33

-..my mother still lived there,

-and my friends would say...

0:42:330:42:37

-.."Gar, I saw you on

-Question of Sport.

0:42:370:42:39

-"You didn't know that answer,

-did you?"

0:42:400:42:42

-They always wanted to bring you

-down if you'd forgotten something.

0:42:430:42:46

-That's what friends

-are supposed to do.

0:42:470:42:49

-Put you in your place and make sure

-you remember where you come from.

0:42:490:42:54

-But even today, decades after

-the Question of Sport days...

0:42:550:43:00

-..if you're holding an event

-and need a big name...

0:43:000:43:03

-..Sir Gareth Edwards

-is the first on the list.

0:43:030:43:07

-I played for Swansea Youth

-before I went to Millfield.

0:43:100:43:13

-When I finished playing and

-John came down to the Swans...

0:43:140:43:18

-..down to the Vetch, he asked me

-to play for the second team.

0:43:190:43:23

-I played several games

-and enjoyed it very much.

0:43:230:43:26

-The only thing I would have

-liked to have seen him do...

0:43:270:43:31

-..was to play a few more games

-for Cardiff than he did.

0:43:310:43:34

-I think he used to just, with

-a little bit of a twinge...

0:43:340:43:37

-..pull out now and again, you know.

0:43:380:43:40

-Particularly before a big

-rugby international.

0:43:400:43:43

-Well, Tosh, you know, there's

-only so many games in you!

0:43:430:43:47

-I know he did...

0:43:470:43:48

-..because I used to have to do

-the same kind of thing myself!

0:43:490:43:52

-I think it was a bigger thing

-for us to play with you.

0:43:550:43:58

-He became obviously

-a figure in sport.

0:44:000:44:03

-He became a television star.

0:44:030:44:05

-He became a man who could...

0:44:050:44:07

-..connect to just about everybody

-in sport and across sport.

0:44:070:44:12

-To be generous with your spirit,

-to understand people...

0:44:120:44:16

-..that's the sign of greatness.

0:44:160:44:18

-And to be consistent

-in the way that you behave.

0:44:180:44:21

-That's why they've been

-able to connect with him...

0:44:210:44:24

-..because he is naturally decent,

-naturally great.

0:44:240:44:27

-And to get decent and great

-in the same sentence...

0:44:270:44:30

-..isn't always possible

-with sports stars.

0:44:300:44:33

-But Sir Gareth doesn't only give

-his time to the rich and famous.

0:44:330:44:37

-Hand in hand with the commercial

-work comes the charity work...

0:44:370:44:41

-..and raising money.

0:44:420:44:44

-We were raising money

-for the Urdd Eisteddfod.

0:44:440:44:47

-I phoned Gareth and asked him

-if he'd attend a dinner.

0:44:470:44:50

-Without a second thought he said,

-"Yes, don't worry, I'll be there."

0:44:510:44:55

-And he came of course and it

-allowed me to invite...

0:44:550:45:00

-..some people who were

-quite wealthy...

0:45:010:45:03

-..and who were eager

-to meet Gareth.

0:45:030:45:08

-And we had a very

-successful night.

0:45:080:45:11

-He gets the attention...

0:45:120:45:13

-..because he's the best player

-the world has ever seen.

0:45:140:45:17

-You can't say anything better

-than that.

0:45:170:45:19

-And I'm happy enough

-to say that every time.

0:45:210:45:25

-There's no doubt that he's

-one of the best players...

0:45:260:45:28

-..ever to have played the game.

0:45:290:45:30

-But what stands out the most

-is that he's a very nice bloke.

0:45:310:45:34

-That's close enough, Tina!

0:45:340:45:36

-It is difficult.

0:45:380:45:40

-It is difficult to live

-with someone...

0:45:400:45:43

-..who's so active and highly...

-What do you call it?

0:45:430:45:47

-He doesn't stop.

-But I'm used to it.

0:45:470:45:50

-Just think.

-Let's save the males in Wales.

0:45:510:45:54

-His character is different to

-everyone else's, I suppose.

0:45:540:45:57

-It can be difficult.

0:45:580:46:00

-But I'm used to it.

0:46:000:46:02

-Yes.

0:46:020:46:04

-I don't take selfies, do I? I don't

-let anybody take selfies of me.

0:46:040:46:08

-I've said it several times,

-when people say...

0:46:090:46:12

-.."You work too hard

-and you do this and that"...

0:46:120:46:15

-..I say it was Dad who worked hard.

0:46:150:46:17

-He got up at 4.30am

-to work a morning shift.

0:46:180:46:21

-He sometimes worked three shifts,

-one straight after the other...

0:46:210:46:25

-..if he got the chance

-to earn a bit more money.

0:46:250:46:27

-That's what I call hard work,

-working underground.

0:46:280:46:31

-What I do isn't hard work.

0:46:310:46:33

-It takes up your time, yes...

0:46:330:46:35

-..but one day nobody will want

-you to come and do something.

0:46:350:46:38

-The calls will stop and they'll

-say, "Who? When did he play?"

0:46:390:46:42

-COMMENTARY:

-This is Gareth Edwards!

-A dramatic start!

0:46:420:46:45

-What a score!

0:46:450:46:48

-Who's the boss? Who do you think?!

0:46:480:46:50

-There's no point answering then,

-is there?

0:46:520:46:54

-Erm, yes. She tells me

-what to do every day.

0:46:540:46:57

-Mind you, that doesn't mean

-he listens!

0:46:570:47:00

-You don't always listen

-to what I tell you.

0:47:020:47:05

-Erm...

0:47:050:47:06

-Well, no.

0:47:060:47:08

-I don't know what the future

-holds for us.

0:47:090:47:13

-I hope we'll be healthy...

0:47:130:47:15

-..that we'll still be able to do

-what we like to do.

0:47:160:47:19

-Erm...

0:47:190:47:20

-You know, if I can keep walking...

0:47:200:47:23

-..and stay healthy physically...

0:47:240:47:26

-..I'll keep going

-for as long as I can.

0:47:260:47:29

-You have to put him in his place

-sometimes...

0:47:300:47:32

-..because he doesn't stop.

0:47:320:47:34

-You were born different

-to everyone else.

0:47:350:47:38

-The only thing I'm sorry about...

0:47:380:47:40

-..is that he hasn't taken

-any interest in the garden.

0:47:410:47:44

-He won't do anything in the garden.

-He has no idea.

0:47:440:47:47

-But I'm the Honorary President of

-the Botanic Gardens in Carmarthen.

0:47:480:47:51

-You don't know the name

-of one flower, do you?

0:47:520:47:54

-And what are you president of?!

0:47:550:47:57

-I'm starting to get worn out.

-I need more help.

0:47:570:48:00

-I'll get you some help!

0:48:000:48:02

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