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-I love cats.

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-But I wasn't brought up with cats.

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-On the farm, Ty Mawr, every cow,

-horse and dog had a name.

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-But what was the cat called?

-'The Cat'.

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-She lived in the cowshed.

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-My father didn't like cats.

-He said, "You can't trust a cat."

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-So I was raised with dogs, hamsters,

-rabbits, budgies and parrots.

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-But, in 1980, I received a gift, on

-the first night of a West End play.

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-It was a Burmese cat called Spencer.

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-I fell in love with Spencer...

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-..and until this year,

-I haven't had to live without cats.

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-Here are my cats.

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-The first one, of course,

-was Spencer.

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-He died young, sadly, aged 11.

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-But Spencer was a fighter.

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-He looked after the garden

-and the house.

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-I thought Spencer needed company...

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-..so we bought... Barnaby.

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-Barnaby was a little brown cat.

-Oh, he was small and timid.

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-Spencer loved him.

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-He was the spirit of the house.

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-He was my favourite, to be honest.

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-He was so sweet.

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-After he died, I moved here.

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-It's high-rise, with no garden.

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-But I wanted another cat -

-and here's my latest.

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-This is Rudi.

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-I have a friend who spends

-a lot of time in the flat...

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-..and he had a terrible reaction

-to Rudi - he became ill.

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-Hospital was the next step.

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-And one Sunday morning

-I thought, "This is impossible."

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-So I phoned my cousin in Whitland

-and asked him to take in my cat.

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-I miss him, of course.

-Living without a cat is terrible.

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-But I'm satisfied that he's living

-a better life in Whitland...

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-..than I could offer him

-here in town.

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-And here is Rudi with the family

-in Carmarthenshire.

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-He's having a great time

-and enjoying life.

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-I come down here as often as I can.

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-Isn't he pretty?

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-Not far from here is a memorial

-to commemorate Hywel Dda...

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-..the king who codified

-the laws of Wales.

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-In his opinion,

-a cat was worth a groat.

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-A newborn kitten

-was worth one penny.

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-A kitten that had opened its eyes

-was worth tuppence...

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-..and after it had killed a mouse,

-it was worth a groat.

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-What is the particular appeal

-of cats?

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-Not everyone feels the same as I do.

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-I'm on a sort of crusade...

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-..to understand what exactly is the

-chemistry between people and cats.

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-There are over 100 breeds of cats

-worldwide.

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-Cats have existed on this earth

-for over 12 million years.

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-According to scientists,

-they don't regard us as people...

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-..but rather as large cats.

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-Some people breed pedigree cats...

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-..and love showing them

-at cat shows.

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-The first cat show in Britain

-was held in 1871.

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-No need to ask if you like cats!

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-No need to ask if you like cats!

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-Oh, don't I just!

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-Oh, don't I just!

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-Have you owned any cats?

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-The family has always had cats.

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-When did you start breeding cats?

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-Oh, 20 years ago.

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-Over 20 years ago.

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-I started off breeding Siamese cats.

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-My daughter received

-a Red Point Siamese as a gift...

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-..and she gave us lots of kittens.

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-We kept one special one.

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-Do all cats like competing?

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-No, not all of them.

-But he was extremely good.

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-If we had a cat

-that didn't enjoying competing...

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-..we didn't take them because

-it caused too many problems.

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-They become distressed,

-and that made them miserable.

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-Did you have to work hard

-to prepare for today?

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-Not really, just check their claws

-and clean their ears and eyes...

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-..and make sure they're well combed.

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-Aren't you pretty, bach!

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-I got the worst of it.

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-I had to get up at 2.00am

-in order to set out at 5.00am...

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-..because it's a three-hour journey

-to Shepton Mallet.

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-What cats do you breed?

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-I've gone from Siamese to Bengal.

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-Bengals came from America,

-originally.

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-Snow Bengals were discovered beside

-a river in India called the Bengal.

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-That's why they're called Bengals.

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-I've also got a British Shorthair -

-a red silver tabby.

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-He's five months old.

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-This is his first visit to a show.

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-This is his first visit to a show.

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-Oh, how sweet! Is he happy?

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-Oh, how sweet! Is he happy?

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-He seems alright!

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-I've given him a cwtch!

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-When will you know

-if you've won anything?

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-We've won one - we know of one.

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-He's come 1st in the Open Class.

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-Oh, congratulations!

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-Which was this? The Bengal?

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-Which was this? The Bengal?

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-No, the British Shorthair.

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-No, the British Shorthair.

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-The little one.

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-The little one.

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-Congratulations!

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-Congratulations!

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-We're absolutely...

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-I'm sure you're extremely happy!

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-Apparently, scientists have proved

-that a person's blood pressure...

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-..will go down

-when they stroke a cat.

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-There are similar areas in people's

-brains and in cats' brains...

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-..which register emotion.

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-What does a psychiatrist think

-about the relationship...

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-..between cats and people?

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-Do you think

-that keeping pet animals...

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-..is good for our mental health

-as well as our physical health?

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-I'm sure it is,

-especially at specific times.

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-We mustn't forget there's a

-difference between being and living.

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-They're two different things.

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-You can exist, for example...

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-..on a lovely mountain top,

-surrounded by beauty.

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-You exist -

-but I don't think that's living.

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-We must have some sort of

-relationship with someone else.

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-I think it's important

-for us to realise...

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-..that we should relate

-to other people.

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-Isn't it strange to think, as Hobson

-has demonstrated recently...

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-..that a child -

-a newborn baby in its crib...

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-..wants to please the mother

-and to communicate with her...

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-..and that is how

-a baby learns language.

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-That's the greatest motive.

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-It happens very early on in life...

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-..and it shows that to live is to

-relate to others - people, usually.

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-But I know there are many people -

-normal people...

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-..and also people who have

-a personality disorder...

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-..what we call schizoid...

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-..who withdraw from the world

-and from relationships with people.

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-Some people - both normal

-and abnormal...

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-..have relationships with animals,

-such as cats and dogs...

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-..and the animal

-is something special in their life.

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-You're not suggesting

-there's something wrong...

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-..with people who love cats?

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-..with people who love cats?

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-No, not at all!

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-No, not at all!

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-But it's strange...

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-..that some people can't sustain

-a relationship with people...

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-..so they create a relationship

-with a cat or a dog...

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-..very often with cats.

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-And indeed, when the cat dies...

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-..there's a lot of grief,

-lasting for years.

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-That shows there's a very deep

-feeling towards the cat.

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-It's another living creature.

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-In that respect,

-I think it is a substitute...

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-..but it is

-a very positive substitute.

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-But I know of some people

-who have lost a cat...

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-..and they grieve for years, and

-they refuse to get another cat...

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-..because they had

-such a special relationship.

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-It's important -

-this reaction to the loss of a cat.

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-It's very similar

-to losing a person.

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-It's an interesting fact that

-Napoleon, Mussolini and Hitler...

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-..were not fond of cats.

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-Too independent, perhaps.

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-The journey continues.

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-We've come to Amsterdam

-to meet Sian Thomas...

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-..who knows a lot

-about the history of cats...

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-..especially their link with Egypt.

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-# Amsterdam, with its crooked walls,

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-# A town full of toys. #

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-"Why Amsterdam?" I hear you ask.

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-Because there's a cat museum here -

-the biggest one in the world.

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-How did the relationship

-between cats and people begin?

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-It goes back to the Stone Age,

-but those cats were wild cats.

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-The real relationship between cats

-and people began 5,000 years ago...

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-..3,000 years before Christ.

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-It began in Nubia - the land

-occupied today by Sudan and Libya.

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-Nubia was conquered by Egypt because

-it was a land rich in gold...

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-..and Egyptians brought cats

-back with them.

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-They used them for fishing and

-hunting in the delta marshlands.

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-The Egyptians

-relied on good harvests...

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-..to sustain them

-throughout the year.

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-Grain had to be protected

-from pests like mice and snakes...

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-..which ate grain.

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-Gradually, cats were enticed

-into the villages because of mice...

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-..and the Egyptians soon realised

-how useful they were.

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-They didn't have to be fed -

-they lived on mice...

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-..and thus protected the harvests

-and grain stores.

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-So people began making

-positive efforts to attract cats...

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-..and cats gradually became

-part of the family.

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-Many of today's cats are descended

-from those early cats in Egypt.

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-But Sian, it's a big step...

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-..from using cats in that way,

-to worshipping them.

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-How did that begin?

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-The Egyptians respected animals,

-in any case.

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-They believed that we're all

-created equally...

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-..and we must co-exist, which means

-respecting every creature.

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-Many creatures were regarded

-as gods or goddesses.

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-There were three feline goddesses.

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-Mafdet, who was

-a large black panther...

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-..Sekhmet, who was a lioness...

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-..and the most well-known and

-popular of all, Bastet, or Bast...

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-..or Pasht - which may be

-the origin of the word 'Puss'.

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-Bastet was regarded as a daughter

-of Ra, king of all the gods...

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-..and god of the sun.

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-Ra, as the sun god,

-died each evening at sunset...

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-..and was reborn

-each following dawn.

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-During the hours of darkness,

-he faced all kinds of dangers...

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-..which could jeopardise

-his rebirth.

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-The Egyptians believed that Bastet,

-Ra's daughter...

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-..could look into the sunset and

-hold the sun's light in her eyes...

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-..and that's why cats' eyes

-shine in the dark.

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-She could see the creatures

-of the night, in the dark...

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-..and destroy them.

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-She protected Ra so that he would

-be reborn and life would go on.

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-They worshipped Bastet

-every year in Bubastis...

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-..where there was a big temple

-in her honour.

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-Cats were carried in large baskets

-so that they could be worshipped.

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-Cats were so revered...

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-..that if anyone killed a cat in

-Egypt, they were sentenced to death.

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-And if the family cat died...

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-..the whole family shaved their

-eyebrows as a mark of respect.

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-Cats were very highly regarded.

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-According to ancient superstition,

-cats have nine lives.

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-I know from personal experience

-how important vets are...

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-..in making sure that my cats

-lived at least one healthy life.

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-Some people will pay a great deal

-to keep a cat healthy.

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-A vet's day-to-day work...

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-..involves handling all kinds

-of cats, of all ages.

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-Here at the Ystwyth

-veterinary surgery in Aberystwyth...

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-..Kate Thomas is extremely familiar

-with treating pets.

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-Kate, do cats

-actually have nine lives?

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-That's a good question.

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-Some cats are in and out of here

-all the time...

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-..so there must be some aspect

-of having many lives!

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-You deal with all kinds of cats.

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-What's the most common complaint

-you deal with?

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-Car accidents are a big problem.

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-We see lots of animals

-with broken legs and so on.

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-Endocrine problems

-crop up often too.

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-Elderly cats often have problems

-with their kidneys.

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-Thyroid too - some cats

-have problems with their thyroid.

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-They can suffer

-from an overactive thyroid.

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-We also come across viruses

-that specifically affect cats...

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-..such as the leukaemia virus

-and the immunodeficiency viruses.

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-These affect only cats.

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-Cats have their own

-particular problems.

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-Have you noticed any differences...

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-..between the attitudes

-of cat owners...

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-..and the attitudes of those

-who own other animals?

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-That's a very interesting question.

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-I think there are two

-completely different types.

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-Cat owners are attracted to cats

-for wholly different reasons...

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-..than why dog owners choose dogs.

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-They're extremely different animals.

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-For some people,

-cats are in the background.

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-They're not part of their lives.

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-They're outdoors and they have

-a job to do - catching mice.

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-Others are obsessed with cats.

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-They take over their lives,

-in a way.

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-What is it about cats?

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-They say Egyptian people

-were like that.

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-Cats can affect us

-in different ways.

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-Does it surprise you

-that people love their cats...

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-..and are sometimes willing to spend

-a fortune on their healthcare?

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-There have been examples

-in the news recently...

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-..concerning the kind of money

-some people will spend.

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-Perhaps we don't see

-such huge sums spent here...

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-..but some people

-are quite happy to spend a lot.

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-They love their animals so much.

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-How much money?

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-How much money?

-

-Ooh...

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-Ooh...

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-..if we're talking about any kind

-of orthopaedic work, for example...

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-..it might mean spending 500

-or 600 on one surgical procedure.

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-That's quite possible.

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-People might spend even more...

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-..if something else happened

-later on in the cat's life.

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-It's not unusual

-to see people willing to pay.

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-It's amazing how some people

-use cats for their own purposes.

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-For Cedwyn and Samantha,

-and Sali and Jay...

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-..having a cat or two means

-something completely different.

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-After Samantha and I

-started seeing each other...

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-..after we started

-living together...

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-..we discussed having children.

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-But we weren't used

-to looking after a child.

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-So we thought we could practise

-by getting an animal...

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-..and we both like cats -

-we don't like dogs.

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-We decided to get a cat,

-from the cats' home in Bryncethin.

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-We lived on the second floor

-in a block of flats...

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-..and we really wanted

-to have children.

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-But we needed to save some money.

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-And we couldn't carry a buggy

-to the second floor.

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-And we also wanted cats.

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-So a compromise - a cat.

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-So a compromise - a cat.

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-We had to have two, though.

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-We had to have two, though.

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-To keep each other company.

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-We saw two cats there - two kittens.

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-They were ginger.

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-We decided to take both,

-they'd take more looking after.

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-If we could look after two cats,

-we'd be ready for a child!

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-I phoned the RSPCA.

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-They said it's perfectly natural

-to keep cats in a flat...

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-..without them being able

-to go outside...

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-..as long as they had

-fresh water and love.

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-Oh, dear!

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-Aren't they a handful!

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-Every cat

-has its own unique character.

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-In November 2003,

-the two cats arrived here...

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-..and we've had them ever since.

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-They're great -

-we enjoy having them.

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-They're both ginger.

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-Both of them are tomcats.

0:22:120:22:14

-Because they're ginger, I named one

-of them Jenksi after Neil Jenkins...

0:22:150:22:21

-..a ginger bloke

-who played for Wales!

0:22:210:22:24

-Samantha is a football fan...

0:22:250:22:27

-..and a big fan of Mark Hughes,

-so the other cat's called Sparky!

0:22:270:22:33

-We felt it was cruel

-to keep cats indoors.

0:22:340:22:38

-We needed a garden,

-so we moved here...

0:22:380:22:41

-And that gave us a reason

-to have children!

0:22:410:22:45

-The baby is due in July!

0:22:450:22:48

-They fulfilled their role - we

-became used to looking after them...

0:22:480:22:53

-..so we decided to try for a child.

0:22:530:22:56

-We were full of confidence!

0:22:570:22:59

-And so Gethin came along.

0:22:590:23:01

-Gethin is a result of our decision

-to have little Jenksis!

0:23:010:23:07

-If we hadn't had cats,

-we wouldn't have moved...

0:23:080:23:11

-..and we wouldn't now

-be expecting a baby!

0:23:120:23:15

-What have we learnt by now?

0:23:210:23:24

-That the link between people

-and cats...

0:23:240:23:27

-..goes back to the age of the

-pyramids and the Egyptian pharaohs.

0:23:270:23:33

-There's something psychological

-that attracts us to them.

0:23:330:23:37

-They can take the place of children,

-for some.

0:23:370:23:41

-An old Welsh verse says, "A black

-cat keeps the house free of worry,

0:23:440:23:50

-"Cats born in May

-bring snakes indoors,

0:23:510:23:54

-"Cats born in June

-stick their noses in foam,

0:23:540:23:57

-"A visiting cat sweeps the yard."

0:23:580:24:00

-888

0:24:080:24:08

-888

-

-888

0:24:080:24:10

-Cats are a common feature

-in the arts world.

0:24:150:24:19

-Paintings, music -

-and what about literature?

0:24:190:24:23

-Many people have written poems

-about cats.

0:24:350:24:38

-Do you have any favourites?

0:24:380:24:41

-Yes.

0:24:420:24:43

-When you look at literature,

-it's very interesting.

0:24:430:24:47

-I tried to find cats in the Bible,

-for example, but there aren't any.

0:24:470:24:53

-But there's a lovely story

-about Mohammed.

0:24:530:24:56

-There was a cat

-sleeping on his sleeve...

0:24:560:25:01

-..so he had to cut the sleeve off

-to avoid waking the cat.

0:25:010:25:07

-There are cats in paradise,

-according to the Moslem religion.

0:25:090:25:14

-That's very interesting.

0:25:140:25:17

-There are many authors

-who have written about cats.

0:25:180:25:21

-There's a lovely poem about a cat,

-written by RS Thomas...

0:25:220:25:26

-..a cat called Sian!

0:25:270:25:28

-It's very interesting

-that RS wrote about cats...

0:25:290:25:33

-..or about a cat...

0:25:340:25:36

-..because he could probably admire

-cats only in other people's homes.

0:25:360:25:41

-He loved birds and, for that reason,

-he couldn't keep a cat.

0:25:410:25:47

-Here's the poem about Sian.

0:25:480:25:51

-It begins beautifully.

0:25:520:25:54

-"Can one make love to a kitten?

0:25:540:25:59

-"Sian, purr for me,

-jump into my lap, knead me.

0:26:000:26:07

-"Shine your claws in my smile.

0:26:080:26:10

-"Your talk is a bell fastened

-with a ribbon about your throat.

0:26:110:26:17

-"My hand thrills to the electricity

-of your fur.

0:26:170:26:21

-"So small you are,

0:26:210:26:23

-"I cradle you on my arm,

-wearing you at my breast-bone."

0:26:230:26:28

-Yeats, too, was

-very fond of cats.

0:26:290:26:32

-He liked the idea of cats being

-able to see the supernatural.

0:26:330:26:38

-He liked the way cats are.

0:26:380:26:41

-He tells a friend, in a letter...

0:26:410:26:44

-.."Are they really beings...

0:26:440:26:46

-"..to which we have access

-only at privileged moments?"

0:26:460:26:50

-That is, it's only

-at certain moments...

0:26:510:26:54

-..that we have the rare privilege

-of understanding them.

0:26:540:26:59

-If we turn to Welsh literature...

0:26:590:27:01

-..one of the most unpleasant

-portrayals of cats...

0:27:020:27:08

-..is the scene described in

-Saunders Lewis's novel, 'Monica'.

0:27:090:27:13

-Monica shuts herself away

-in her house...

0:27:140:27:17

-..with these two white cats...

0:27:170:27:19

-..and her husband

-complains about the smell.

0:27:190:27:22

-But she laments that her cats

-are all that she has left.

0:27:240:27:29

-She sees the cats as things

-that justify her existence.

0:27:300:27:35

-That's a very interesting portrayal

-by Saunders Lewis.

0:27:350:27:40

-On a happier, or funnier, note...

0:27:410:27:44

-..Waldo wrote a delightful poem

-about cats.

0:27:440:27:50

-The poem is called

-'Ymadawiad Cwrcath'.

0:27:520:27:55

-It's interesting...

0:27:560:27:57

-..the word "cwrcath" - tomcat -

-makes people laugh for some reason.

0:27:580:28:02

-The word "cath" doesn't...

0:28:020:28:04

-..but "cwrcath"

-implies a certain character.

0:28:040:28:07

-Of course, this poem is a parody

-of T Gwynn Jones.

0:28:070:28:12

-I'll read an extract.

0:28:120:28:14

-"There you'll find

-all the feline scrapping

0:28:140:28:17

-"That ever took place on rooftops

-beneath the stars,

0:28:170:28:21

-"There's cold meat and cawl

-for each questing mouth,

0:28:210:28:25

-"A pound of cheese

-for each pussy that seeks it.

0:28:250:28:28

-"Since time began, each tom

-has claimed nine lives -

0:28:280:28:32

-"There, he takes his tenth breath."

0:28:320:28:35

-It describes a struggle

-to try to kill this cat.

0:28:360:28:40

-But in the end,

-"He gave one famous leap,

0:28:400:28:45

-"Yet again, he went for the door."

0:28:450:28:48

-The cat wins in the end -

-there's no getting rid of it!

0:28:490:28:54

-From one poet,

-at home with her tame cat...

0:28:560:29:00

-..to another poet, whose wild cats

-roam the fields in Talgarreg.

0:29:000:29:05

-Have you always had a cat?

0:29:080:29:10

-Have you always had a cat?

-

-Yes. I was brought up on a farm.

0:29:100:29:11

-Yes. I was brought up on a farm.

0:29:110:29:13

-I'm very fond of animals.

0:29:130:29:15

-I was raised with dogs, cattle,

-pigs, sheep - all kinds...

0:29:160:29:20

-..and cats, of course - farm cats.

0:29:200:29:24

-Very charming creatures -

-very tough creatures too.

0:29:240:29:27

-I remember them

-having the time of their lives...

0:29:270:29:31

-..in the barn, in spring, when the

-mice came in from the grain store.

0:29:310:29:37

-There was little corn left

-in the grain store...

0:29:370:29:40

-..and the cats waited for the mice

-in the barn.

0:29:400:29:44

-I watched the drama

-from the cowshed!

0:29:450:29:48

-It was a deadly, cruel performance.

0:29:480:29:51

-The cats were so sure of their prey.

0:29:530:29:56

-Many poets have written about cats.

0:29:570:30:00

-Have you yourself written something?

0:30:010:30:04

-Personally, I haven't

-written anything about cats.

0:30:040:30:07

-But the late Bardd Cocos

-wrote about the cat.

0:30:080:30:12

-He called it...

0:30:120:30:14

-.."a long-tailed, round-bellied,

-mouse-eating creature!"

0:30:140:30:18

-There are two important poems

-in English...

0:30:200:30:23

-..one by Thomas Hardy...

0:30:230:30:26

-..one by Thomas Hardy -

-'Last Words To A Dumb Friend'.

0:30:260:30:32

-He describes the cat's grave...

0:30:320:30:34

-..as seen from the hearth,

-through the window.

0:30:350:30:38

-"Housemate, I can think you still

-Bounding to the windowsill

0:30:390:30:46

-"Over which I vaguely see

-Your small mound beneath a tree

0:30:470:30:52

-"Showing in the autumn shade

-That you moulder where you played."

0:30:530:30:59

-It portrays a cat's death.

0:31:000:31:02

-Strangely enough...

0:31:030:31:04

-..both of these English poems

-are about cats that are dead.

0:31:040:31:09

-This second poem is the work

-of the poet and lawyer Roy Fuller.

0:31:090:31:15

-'In memory of my cat Domino,

-1951-66'.

0:31:150:31:19

-"So long, had we been together

0:31:190:31:21

-"It never occurred to me

-that I might fall somewhat behind,

0:31:220:31:27

-"Even when,

-familiar fur in my hands

0:31:270:31:31

-"The sickly wave of

-barbiturate rose up

0:31:310:31:36

-"I thought it was I who was

-journeying on."

0:31:370:31:41

-Strangely enough,

-I don't know of a single poem...

0:31:410:31:45

-..that tells of the other aspect -

-the cat's primitive aspect.

0:31:450:31:49

-Poets like Ted Hughes, Seamus Heaney

-and even Gwyn Thomas...

0:31:490:31:54

-..could have written

-that kind of poem.

0:31:540:31:57

-But I don't know of any.

0:31:570:31:59

-Bearing this in mind,

-I've written an englyn.

0:32:000:32:03

-It demonstrates what a poem

-on this theme might be like.

0:32:050:32:11

-A portrayal of a cat, civilised in

-a comfortable kitchen of an evening.

0:32:130:32:18

-But, later, that same cat...

0:32:180:32:21

-..returns into the kitchen in the

-morning after hunting all night.

0:32:210:32:26

-Both elements, the civilised

-and the uncivilised...

0:32:260:32:29

-..co-existing

-within the same creature.

0:32:290:32:32

-Here's the englyn.

0:32:320:32:34

-"This evening,

-purring somnolently with caresses

0:32:340:32:39

-"But later, primordial in the dawn,

0:32:400:32:44

-"She comes

-with the spoils of her hunting

0:32:450:32:48

-"Into the kitchen."

0:32:490:32:51

-She brings that primitiveness into

-the civilised feel of the kitchen...

0:32:510:32:56

-..having spent the previous evening

-in front of the fire being caressed.

0:32:560:33:01

-That's the rounded image of the cat,

-the complete image.

0:33:010:33:06

-It's an image that startles you.

0:33:070:33:09

-It's a very disturbing image.

0:33:100:33:12

-It's a thrilling and exciting image.

0:33:120:33:15

-After all, that's

-the kind of material...

0:33:160:33:20

-..that inspires

-truly worthwhile poetry.

0:33:210:33:24

-PIANO

0:33:260:33:28

-What was that?

0:33:370:33:38

-What was that?

-

-That was 'Kitty Valse' by Faure.

0:33:380:33:39

-That was 'Kitty Valse' by Faure.

0:33:390:33:41

-It's quite a well-known piece.

0:33:410:33:43

-Have the world's greatest composers

-been inspired by cats at all?

0:33:440:33:48

-Some of them.

0:33:490:33:50

-Cats appear in the titles

-of several pieces.

0:33:500:33:54

-There are stories of cats

-walking along a piano keyboard.

0:33:550:33:59

-There's a story

-famously associated with Scarlatti.

0:33:590:34:03

-But I also discovered

-that Chopin wrote "Cat Waltz"...

0:34:030:34:07

-..and the story goes that the cat

-walked across the piano - like this.

0:34:070:34:13

-# CAT WALTZ #

-Chopin

0:34:130:34:16

-And so on.

0:34:180:34:19

-But I don't think

-this story is true...

0:34:200:34:23

-..because it sounds too precise

-to be a cat!

0:34:230:34:26

-However, this one is different.

0:34:270:34:28

-This is Scarlatti - another story

-of a cat walking across a piano.

0:34:290:34:32

-# CAT'S FUGUE #

-Scarlatti

0:34:320:34:35

-That's more unusual, and I believe

-it sounds more authentic.

0:34:350:34:39

-Here's the piece -

-he included it in his 'Fugue'.

0:34:400:34:43

-# CAT'S FUGUE #

-Scarlatti

0:34:440:34:46

-And so on.

0:34:560:34:58

-There are many more

-instrumental pieces.

0:34:580:35:01

-There are lots of songs too.

0:35:020:35:03

-There are lots of songs too.

-

-Yes - how about some songs?

0:35:030:35:05

-Yes - how about some songs?

0:35:050:35:06

-# LIVELY MUSIC #

0:35:060:35:07

-# LIVELY MUSIC #

-

-What's that?

0:35:070:35:08

-What's that?

0:35:080:35:08

-I don't know. I know the tune.

0:35:090:35:12

-It starts with two important words -

-"Top Cat!"

0:35:120:35:15

-I'll try to sing it.

0:35:170:35:19

-'Top Cat' was a cartoon.

0:35:200:35:22

-# Top Cat, the most effectual,

0:35:230:35:25

-# Top Cat, who's intellectual,

0:35:260:35:29

-# Close friends get to call him TC,

0:35:290:35:32

-# Providing it's with dignity. #

0:35:330:35:35

-What comes next?

0:35:350:35:37

-What comes next?

-

-# Top Cat!

0:35:370:35:37

-# Top Cat!

0:35:370:35:38

-# The indisputable

-leader of the gang. #

0:35:390:35:42

-And so on.

0:35:420:35:44

-I remember that when I was a boy.

0:35:440:35:47

-Right, what's this song

-from a very well-known film?

0:35:470:35:52

-Here's how it begins. It's a waltz.

0:35:520:35:55

-What's the film?

0:35:550:35:56

-What's the film?

-

-'What's New Pussycat?'

0:35:560:35:56

-'What's New Pussycat?'

0:35:560:35:57

-'What's New Pussycat?' was

-a co-production with our company...

0:35:580:36:02

-..and an American company -

-I can't remember the name.

0:36:020:36:06

-I remember people bringing a demo

-back to the office...

0:36:060:36:10

-.."We've got the song, this is it!"

0:36:100:36:13

-I said, "Tom Jones sang that - he's

-Welsh," but they weren't interested.

0:36:130:36:18

-But of course the song became very

-famous and it's still played...

0:36:180:36:23

-..though the film has disappeared.

0:36:230:36:25

-..though the film has disappeared.

-

-These things go round in circles.

0:36:250:36:27

-But it's a superb song.

0:36:270:36:28

-But it's a superb song.

-

-A very difficult song.

0:36:280:36:29

-A very difficult song.

0:36:290:36:30

-They say Tom Jones was the only one

-who could sing it.

0:36:300:36:34

-# What's new pussycat? Whoah, whoah.

0:36:350:36:38

-# What's new pussycat?

-Whoah, whoah, whoah. #

0:36:380:36:42

-"Pussycat, Pussycat."

0:36:440:36:45

-# Pussycat, Pussycat,

-I've got flowers,

0:36:460:36:49

-# And lots of hours

-to spend with you.

0:36:500:36:53

-# So go and powder

-your cute little pussycat nose! #

0:36:530:36:58

-I'll finish with something

-from Wales.

0:36:580:37:01

-Most of these are American.

-There aren't many songs from Wales.

0:37:020:37:06

-But there's 'Pwsi Meri Mew'.

0:37:070:37:09

-I only remember half of it!

0:37:090:37:10

-I only remember half of it!

-

-I only remember the first two lines!

0:37:100:37:12

-I only remember the first two lines!

0:37:120:37:12

-Let's give it a go.

0:37:130:37:15

-# Pwsi Meri Mew,

-how did you lose your fur?

0:37:150:37:19

-# Going through a thick bush

-in the frost and the snow.

0:37:190:37:24

-# What welcome

-did you receive there? #

0:37:250:37:28

-And so on.

0:37:280:37:30

-Now then - what famous duet

-by Rossini shall we finish with?

0:37:300:37:35

-No. Let's leave that duet

-to someone else...

0:37:360:37:39

-..someone who can do better!

0:37:390:37:40

-..someone who can do better!

-

-Amen!

0:37:400:37:41

-Amen!

0:37:410:37:42

-# COMIC DUET FOR TWO CATS #

-Rossini

0:37:420:37:45

-# Mi-a-aow,

0:37:460:37:48

-# Mi-i-i-i-aow!

0:37:480:37:50

-# Mi-i-i-i-i-i-aow,

0:37:500:37:52

-# Mi-i-i-i-i-i-aow,

-

-# Mi-i-i-aow.

0:37:520:37:54

-# Mi-i-i-aow.

0:37:540:37:55

-# Mi-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-aow!

0:37:560:38:01

-# Mi-i-i-a-a-a-aow,

0:38:010:38:03

-# Mi-i-i-a-a-a-aow,

-

-# Mi-i-i-i-i-aow!

0:38:030:38:05

-# Mi-i-i-i-i-aow!

0:38:050:38:05

-# Mi-i-i-a-a-a-aow,

0:38:060:38:07

-# Mi-i-i-a-a-a-aow,

-

-# Mi-i-i-i-i-aow!

0:38:070:38:09

-# Mi-i-i-i-i-aow!

0:38:090:38:09

-# Mi-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-aow,

0:38:090:38:14

-# Mi-i-i-aow! #

0:38:140:38:19

-APPLAUSE

0:38:210:38:23

-888

0:38:280:38:28

-888

-

-888

0:38:280:38:30

-You mustn't think

-that everyone loves cats.

0:38:350:38:38

-Some people hate them.

0:38:390:38:40

-Come in. Sit down.

0:38:490:38:50

-Come in. Sit down.

-

-Thank you.

0:38:500:38:51

-Thank you.

0:38:510:38:52

-I'll go and fetch Tomos.

0:38:520:38:55

-Right-ho.

-I'd like to see the creature.

0:38:550:38:58

-Is he comfortable with strangers?

0:38:590:39:01

-Will you take him?

0:39:010:39:03

-Will you take him?

-

-No, I don't want him!

0:39:030:39:03

-No, I don't want him!

0:39:030:39:05

-No, really, no!

0:39:050:39:06

-Take him away, I beg you!

-I'm really scared of cats.

0:39:070:39:11

-Mr OP Roberts lived next door to me.

0:39:110:39:15

-He told me

-when I came to live here...

0:39:160:39:19

-..that I had to do the garden!

0:39:200:39:23

-He'd been a Sergeant Major

-in the Army, in Ireland.

0:39:230:39:27

-He was quite a Sergeant Major

-when he lived next door!

0:39:270:39:32

-He told me to grow potatoes

-first of all.

0:39:320:39:36

-He grew potatoes -

-he grew everything.

0:39:360:39:39

-We'd chat over the garden wall.

0:39:390:39:42

-But cats gave me trouble...

0:39:420:39:44

-..other people's cats -

-I didn't have cats.

0:39:450:39:48

-Honestly, I came up with

-every trick we could think of...

0:39:490:39:54

-..to try and get rid of the cats.

0:39:540:39:57

-I left lemon and orange peel

-between the rows of potatoes.

0:39:580:40:02

-The cats did their business there...

0:40:030:40:05

-..and that put me off

-eating the potatoes!

0:40:050:40:09

-Who'd want to eat parsley

-if a cat's been pooing there?!

0:40:090:40:12

-Goodness, we had so much trouble!

0:40:130:40:16

-We came up with all kinds of things.

0:40:160:40:20

-Placing barbed wire on the walls

-to stop cats getting in.

0:40:200:40:24

-Sprinkling pepper around everything.

0:40:240:40:26

-It didn't work.

0:40:260:40:28

-But cattle are his main delight.

0:40:280:40:31

-Yes - well, you've got to keep

-everyone happy.

0:40:310:40:35

-Talk about happy - I'll have

-to move, there's a cat over there!

0:40:350:40:40

-Then, we tried leaving a stuffed toy

-dog among the blackcurrant bushes!

0:40:450:40:51

-It was the same principle as

-a scarecrow to get rid of crows...

0:40:520:40:57

-..but using a stuffed dog

-to get rid of cats!

0:40:570:41:01

-Then, we tried plastic bottles

-filled with water...

0:41:010:41:05

-..and we'd rush out

-and squirt the cats.

0:41:050:41:08

-I don't know...

0:41:090:41:10

-This went on year after year.

0:41:100:41:13

-We did consider getting an air gun!

0:41:130:41:16

-These strange people do exist,

-but I'm not one of them.

0:41:200:41:25

-I may not ever be able to convince

-some people about a cat's appeal.

0:41:250:41:31

-And I'll never

-understand the difference...

0:41:310:41:34

-..between those who like cats

-and those who loathe them.

0:41:340:41:38

-Perhaps their appeal

-is somehow linked with magic.

0:41:380:41:43

-"I have a black cat

-quite unlike any other,

0:41:480:41:51

-"She'll fight the gander,

-she'll pluck his feathers.

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-"She has claws and a beard,

-and they're so pretty.

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-"She chases the masses of mice

-from the garden.

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-"When she comes into the house,

-she bullies the dog.

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-"Take my advice - keep a black cat."

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-Black cats are considered by some

-to be lucky, by others unlucky.

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-Do you like cats, Eirlys?

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-Do you like cats, Eirlys?

-

-Yes. I have two at the moment...

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-Yes. I have two at the moment...

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-..and I think the world of them.

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-Can you tell me about people's

-superstitions concerning cats?

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-Black cats are the usual focus.

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-They're considered to be

-either lucky or unlucky.

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-I think people who hate cats

-consider them to be unlucky.

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-People who like them

-say they're fine.

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-If a black cat crosses your path, it

-foretells bad luck - in some areas.

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-In others, it brings you luck.

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-I read of a man

-who was about to be married...

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-..and a black cat crossed his path.

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-He believed it was a witch in

-disguise and threw a stone at it.

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-That brought him bad luck!

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-What's the link

-between cats and witches?

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-It goes back to ancient Egypt.

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-Isis, the mother goddess

-of the earth...

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-..was associated with cats.

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-Cats were regarded

-as a manifestation of Isis.

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-The Romans believed that Diana,

-the goddess of fertility...

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-..could turn herself into a cat.

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-There's something enchanting

-about cats.

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-People often believed,

-down the years...

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-..that witches could transform

-themselves into cats.

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-Also, that the devil gave cats to

-witches to help them with spells.

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-If you wanted to enchant someone...

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-..you'd take an item belonging to

-them, such as a glove...

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-..and rub it on your cat.

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-This would bring them bad luck.

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-A young witch would be given

-an old cat that knew about spells...

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-..to help her!

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-Are there any Welsh examples

-of witches transforming into cats?

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-Yes.

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-There's the 17th century story

-of Huw Llwyd of Cynfal...

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-..who stayed in a tavern

-in Cerrigydrudion.

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-The tavern was kept by two sisters.

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-During the night,

-he saw two cats in his room...

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-..going through his clothes

-as though looking for money.

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-He realised they were witches...

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-..and he took his sword and struck

-one of the cats on her paw.

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-The following morning, one

-of the sisters had a bandaged hand!

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-Evidently, she had been that cat!

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-People believed

-that whatever happened to the cat...

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-..or to the witch

-when in the form of a cat...

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-..affected the witch's human form.

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-Eirlys, you're also a preacher.

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-Do you believe cats have a soul?

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-I'm sure every living thing

-has a soul.

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-If you're fond of cats, could heaven

-be heaven without any cats?

0:45:290:45:34

-I'm glad you believe that!

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-Well, he we are...

0:45:420:45:44

-..nearly at the end of our voyage

-of discovery about cats...

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-..and what they mean to people.

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-But have we gone a bit too far

-in our love towards them?

0:45:530:45:59

-One feels that cats

-have been here before...

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-..every cat has lived before.

0:46:040:46:06

-They seem to know

-everything about you.

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-They're otherworldly.

0:46:100:46:11

-They give me a lot of pleasure.

0:46:120:46:15

-And companionship -

-they talk to you.

0:46:150:46:18

-They demand attention.

-They enjoy a cwtch.

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-The house is empty without them.

0:46:210:46:24

-They're never the same -

-they're always changing.

0:46:240:46:27

-They change their appearance,

-and the way they behave.

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-You can't tell what they'll do next.

0:46:320:46:35

-They're very good company.

0:46:350:46:37

-Listening to a cat purring

-is very relaxing, for example.

0:46:370:46:43

-I think cats are appealing

-because they're otherworldly...

0:46:440:46:47

-..because they operate to their own

-timetable, to a certain degree.

0:46:490:46:53

-There's something philosophical

-about them.

0:46:540:46:57

-It's impossible to be angry

-with anyone, when you stroke a cat.

0:46:570:47:02

-And it's impossible for you

-to suffer from stress...

0:47:020:47:06

-..when you're stroking a cat.

0:47:060:47:09

-They expect to be worshipped -

-and, of course, we worship them.

0:47:100:47:14

-There's nothing better than

-having a cat purring on your knee.

0:47:140:47:19

-If a man can find peace...

0:47:190:47:22

-..why did he seek that relationship

-with his Creator?

0:47:220:47:26

-This illustrates an important theme.

0:47:260:47:29

-For some, it's cats, or people...

0:47:290:47:31

-..for others, it's God -

-and for some, it's everything.

0:47:320:47:35

-We've now reached

-the end of our journey.

0:47:390:47:43

-What have we learned

-about people and cats?

0:47:440:47:48

-Well, the relationship

-stretches back...

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-..over thousands upon thousands

-of years.

0:47:530:47:56

-Artists and musicians have created

-works of art involving cats.

0:47:570:48:02

-Scientists have proved that they're

-generally good for our health.

0:48:030:48:07

-And there's something about cats'

-attitude that attracts us to them.

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-PURR

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-There's a woman in Camden Town...

0:48:160:48:19

-..who says that cats

-are waiting patiently...

0:48:190:48:22

-..while they prepare

-to rule the world...

0:48:220:48:25

-..once again!

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-I wouldn't be surprised!

0:48:270:48:29

-For me, at least, the world

-would be a far poorer place...

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-..without the company of cats.

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