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-I love cats. | 0:00:48 | 0:00:50 | |
-But I wasn't brought up with cats. | 0:00:50 | 0:00:53 | |
-On the farm, Ty Mawr, every cow, -horse and dog had a name. | 0:00:54 | 0:00:59 | |
-But what was the cat called? -'The Cat'. | 0:00:59 | 0:01:02 | |
-She lived in the cowshed. | 0:01:03 | 0:01:05 | |
-My father didn't like cats. -He said, "You can't trust a cat." | 0:01:05 | 0:01:10 | |
-So I was raised with dogs, hamsters, -rabbits, budgies and parrots. | 0:01:10 | 0:01:15 | |
-But, in 1980, I received a gift, on -the first night of a West End play. | 0:01:15 | 0:01:22 | |
-It was a Burmese cat called Spencer. | 0:01:22 | 0:01:25 | |
-I fell in love with Spencer... | 0:01:25 | 0:01:28 | |
-..and until this year, -I haven't had to live without cats. | 0:01:28 | 0:01:33 | |
-Here are my cats. | 0:01:40 | 0:01:42 | |
-The first one, of course, -was Spencer. | 0:01:43 | 0:01:46 | |
-He died young, sadly, aged 11. | 0:01:46 | 0:01:49 | |
-But Spencer was a fighter. | 0:01:50 | 0:01:52 | |
-He looked after the garden -and the house. | 0:01:52 | 0:01:56 | |
-I thought Spencer needed company... | 0:01:56 | 0:01:58 | |
-..so we bought... Barnaby. | 0:01:59 | 0:02:02 | |
-Barnaby was a little brown cat. -Oh, he was small and timid. | 0:02:03 | 0:02:08 | |
-Spencer loved him. | 0:02:09 | 0:02:11 | |
-He was the spirit of the house. | 0:02:11 | 0:02:14 | |
-He was my favourite, to be honest. | 0:02:14 | 0:02:17 | |
-He was so sweet. | 0:02:18 | 0:02:19 | |
-After he died, I moved here. | 0:02:20 | 0:02:22 | |
-It's high-rise, with no garden. | 0:02:23 | 0:02:25 | |
-But I wanted another cat - -and here's my latest. | 0:02:25 | 0:02:29 | |
-This is Rudi. | 0:02:30 | 0:02:32 | |
-I have a friend who spends -a lot of time in the flat... | 0:02:33 | 0:02:38 | |
-..and he had a terrible reaction -to Rudi - he became ill. | 0:02:39 | 0:02:43 | |
-Hospital was the next step. | 0:02:44 | 0:02:46 | |
-And one Sunday morning -I thought, "This is impossible." | 0:02:46 | 0:02:50 | |
-So I phoned my cousin in Whitland -and asked him to take in my cat. | 0:02:50 | 0:02:56 | |
-I miss him, of course. -Living without a cat is terrible. | 0:02:57 | 0:03:02 | |
-But I'm satisfied that he's living -a better life in Whitland... | 0:03:02 | 0:03:07 | |
-..than I could offer him -here in town. | 0:03:07 | 0:03:11 | |
-And here is Rudi with the family -in Carmarthenshire. | 0:03:19 | 0:03:23 | |
-He's having a great time -and enjoying life. | 0:03:23 | 0:03:27 | |
-I come down here as often as I can. | 0:03:27 | 0:03:31 | |
-Isn't he pretty? | 0:03:31 | 0:03:33 | |
-Not far from here is a memorial -to commemorate Hywel Dda... | 0:03:34 | 0:03:40 | |
-..the king who codified -the laws of Wales. | 0:03:40 | 0:03:43 | |
-In his opinion, -a cat was worth a groat. | 0:03:43 | 0:03:47 | |
-A newborn kitten -was worth one penny. | 0:03:48 | 0:03:51 | |
-A kitten that had opened its eyes -was worth tuppence... | 0:03:52 | 0:03:57 | |
-..and after it had killed a mouse, -it was worth a groat. | 0:03:57 | 0:04:02 | |
-What is the particular appeal -of cats? | 0:04:02 | 0:04:06 | |
-Not everyone feels the same as I do. | 0:04:07 | 0:04:10 | |
-I'm on a sort of crusade... | 0:04:11 | 0:04:13 | |
-..to understand what exactly is the -chemistry between people and cats. | 0:04:13 | 0:04:19 | |
-There are over 100 breeds of cats -worldwide. | 0:04:26 | 0:04:29 | |
-Cats have existed on this earth -for over 12 million years. | 0:04:30 | 0:04:35 | |
-According to scientists, -they don't regard us as people... | 0:04:37 | 0:04:40 | |
-..but rather as large cats. | 0:04:41 | 0:04:43 | |
-Some people breed pedigree cats... | 0:04:46 | 0:04:49 | |
-..and love showing them -at cat shows. | 0:04:49 | 0:04:53 | |
-The first cat show in Britain -was held in 1871. | 0:04:58 | 0:05:03 | |
-No need to ask if you like cats! | 0:05:08 | 0:05:10 | |
-No need to ask if you like cats! - -Oh, don't I just! | 0:05:10 | 0:05:11 | |
-Oh, don't I just! | 0:05:11 | 0:05:11 | |
-Have you owned any cats? | 0:05:11 | 0:05:14 | |
-The family has always had cats. | 0:05:14 | 0:05:16 | |
-When did you start breeding cats? | 0:05:17 | 0:05:21 | |
-Oh, 20 years ago. | 0:05:21 | 0:05:23 | |
-Over 20 years ago. | 0:05:24 | 0:05:27 | |
-I started off breeding Siamese cats. | 0:05:27 | 0:05:31 | |
-My daughter received -a Red Point Siamese as a gift... | 0:05:32 | 0:05:36 | |
-..and she gave us lots of kittens. | 0:05:38 | 0:05:41 | |
-We kept one special one. | 0:05:41 | 0:05:43 | |
-Do all cats like competing? | 0:05:44 | 0:05:46 | |
-No, not all of them. -But he was extremely good. | 0:05:46 | 0:05:51 | |
-If we had a cat -that didn't enjoying competing... | 0:05:51 | 0:05:55 | |
-..we didn't take them because -it caused too many problems. | 0:05:55 | 0:05:59 | |
-They become distressed, -and that made them miserable. | 0:05:59 | 0:06:03 | |
-Did you have to work hard -to prepare for today? | 0:06:03 | 0:06:08 | |
-Not really, just check their claws -and clean their ears and eyes... | 0:06:08 | 0:06:13 | |
-..and make sure they're well combed. | 0:06:15 | 0:06:17 | |
-Aren't you pretty, bach! | 0:06:18 | 0:06:19 | |
-I got the worst of it. | 0:06:20 | 0:06:23 | |
-I had to get up at 2.00am -in order to set out at 5.00am... | 0:06:23 | 0:06:29 | |
-..because it's a three-hour journey -to Shepton Mallet. | 0:06:29 | 0:06:33 | |
-What cats do you breed? | 0:06:33 | 0:06:35 | |
-I've gone from Siamese to Bengal. | 0:06:36 | 0:06:39 | |
-Bengals came from America, -originally. | 0:06:41 | 0:06:44 | |
-Snow Bengals were discovered beside -a river in India called the Bengal. | 0:06:48 | 0:06:54 | |
-That's why they're called Bengals. | 0:06:55 | 0:06:58 | |
-I've also got a British Shorthair - -a red silver tabby. | 0:06:59 | 0:07:04 | |
-He's five months old. | 0:07:04 | 0:07:06 | |
-This is his first visit to a show. | 0:07:06 | 0:07:10 | |
-This is his first visit to a show. - -Oh, how sweet! Is he happy? | 0:07:10 | 0:07:10 | |
-Oh, how sweet! Is he happy? | 0:07:10 | 0:07:12 | |
-He seems alright! | 0:07:13 | 0:07:15 | |
-I've given him a cwtch! | 0:07:15 | 0:07:17 | |
-When will you know -if you've won anything? | 0:07:18 | 0:07:21 | |
-We've won one - we know of one. | 0:07:21 | 0:07:24 | |
-He's come 1st in the Open Class. | 0:07:24 | 0:07:27 | |
-Oh, congratulations! | 0:07:28 | 0:07:29 | |
-Which was this? The Bengal? | 0:07:29 | 0:07:31 | |
-Which was this? The Bengal? - -No, the British Shorthair. | 0:07:31 | 0:07:31 | |
-No, the British Shorthair. | 0:07:31 | 0:07:32 | |
-The little one. | 0:07:33 | 0:07:34 | |
-The little one. - -Congratulations! | 0:07:34 | 0:07:35 | |
-Congratulations! | 0:07:35 | 0:07:35 | |
-We're absolutely... | 0:07:35 | 0:07:37 | |
-I'm sure you're extremely happy! | 0:07:37 | 0:07:39 | |
-Apparently, scientists have proved -that a person's blood pressure... | 0:07:54 | 0:07:58 | |
-..will go down -when they stroke a cat. | 0:07:58 | 0:08:01 | |
-There are similar areas in people's -brains and in cats' brains... | 0:08:02 | 0:08:06 | |
-..which register emotion. | 0:08:06 | 0:08:08 | |
-What does a psychiatrist think -about the relationship... | 0:08:08 | 0:08:11 | |
-..between cats and people? | 0:08:11 | 0:08:13 | |
-Do you think -that keeping pet animals... | 0:08:13 | 0:08:17 | |
-..is good for our mental health -as well as our physical health? | 0:08:18 | 0:08:24 | |
-I'm sure it is, -especially at specific times. | 0:08:24 | 0:08:27 | |
-We mustn't forget there's a -difference between being and living. | 0:08:28 | 0:08:32 | |
-They're two different things. | 0:08:33 | 0:08:35 | |
-You can exist, for example... | 0:08:36 | 0:08:38 | |
-..on a lovely mountain top, -surrounded by beauty. | 0:08:38 | 0:08:41 | |
-You exist - -but I don't think that's living. | 0:08:42 | 0:08:45 | |
-We must have some sort of -relationship with someone else. | 0:08:45 | 0:08:50 | |
-I think it's important -for us to realise... | 0:08:50 | 0:08:53 | |
-..that we should relate -to other people. | 0:08:53 | 0:08:57 | |
-Isn't it strange to think, as Hobson -has demonstrated recently... | 0:08:57 | 0:09:02 | |
-..that a child - -a newborn baby in its crib... | 0:09:02 | 0:09:06 | |
-..wants to please the mother -and to communicate with her... | 0:09:07 | 0:09:11 | |
-..and that is how -a baby learns language. | 0:09:11 | 0:09:15 | |
-That's the greatest motive. | 0:09:15 | 0:09:16 | |
-It happens very early on in life... | 0:09:17 | 0:09:20 | |
-..and it shows that to live is to -relate to others - people, usually. | 0:09:20 | 0:09:25 | |
-But I know there are many people - -normal people... | 0:09:26 | 0:09:29 | |
-..and also people who have -a personality disorder... | 0:09:30 | 0:09:33 | |
-..what we call schizoid... | 0:09:33 | 0:09:35 | |
-..who withdraw from the world -and from relationships with people. | 0:09:35 | 0:09:40 | |
-Some people - both normal -and abnormal... | 0:09:40 | 0:09:43 | |
-..have relationships with animals, -such as cats and dogs... | 0:09:43 | 0:09:47 | |
-..and the animal -is something special in their life. | 0:09:47 | 0:09:53 | |
-You're not suggesting -there's something wrong... | 0:09:54 | 0:09:57 | |
-..with people who love cats? | 0:09:57 | 0:09:59 | |
-..with people who love cats? - -No, not at all! | 0:09:59 | 0:09:59 | |
-No, not at all! | 0:09:59 | 0:10:01 | |
-But it's strange... | 0:10:01 | 0:10:03 | |
-..that some people can't sustain -a relationship with people... | 0:10:03 | 0:10:07 | |
-..so they create a relationship -with a cat or a dog... | 0:10:07 | 0:10:11 | |
-..very often with cats. | 0:10:12 | 0:10:13 | |
-And indeed, when the cat dies... | 0:10:14 | 0:10:16 | |
-..there's a lot of grief, -lasting for years. | 0:10:16 | 0:10:20 | |
-That shows there's a very deep -feeling towards the cat. | 0:10:20 | 0:10:24 | |
-It's another living creature. | 0:10:24 | 0:10:26 | |
-In that respect, -I think it is a substitute... | 0:10:26 | 0:10:30 | |
-..but it is -a very positive substitute. | 0:10:30 | 0:10:33 | |
-But I know of some people -who have lost a cat... | 0:10:34 | 0:10:39 | |
-..and they grieve for years, and -they refuse to get another cat... | 0:10:39 | 0:10:44 | |
-..because they had -such a special relationship. | 0:10:44 | 0:10:47 | |
-It's important - -this reaction to the loss of a cat. | 0:10:48 | 0:10:52 | |
-It's very similar -to losing a person. | 0:10:52 | 0:10:55 | |
-It's an interesting fact that -Napoleon, Mussolini and Hitler... | 0:10:59 | 0:11:05 | |
-..were not fond of cats. | 0:11:05 | 0:11:07 | |
-Too independent, perhaps. | 0:11:08 | 0:11:09 | |
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-The journey continues. | 0:11:30 | 0:11:32 | |
-We've come to Amsterdam -to meet Sian Thomas... | 0:11:32 | 0:11:35 | |
-..who knows a lot -about the history of cats... | 0:11:35 | 0:11:39 | |
-..especially their link with Egypt. | 0:11:39 | 0:11:42 | |
-# Amsterdam, with its crooked walls, | 0:11:43 | 0:11:45 | |
-# A town full of toys. # | 0:11:46 | 0:11:49 | |
-"Why Amsterdam?" I hear you ask. | 0:11:49 | 0:11:51 | |
-Because there's a cat museum here - -the biggest one in the world. | 0:11:51 | 0:11:57 | |
-How did the relationship -between cats and people begin? | 0:12:36 | 0:12:39 | |
-It goes back to the Stone Age, -but those cats were wild cats. | 0:12:40 | 0:12:45 | |
-The real relationship between cats -and people began 5,000 years ago... | 0:12:45 | 0:12:50 | |
-..3,000 years before Christ. | 0:12:50 | 0:12:52 | |
-It began in Nubia - the land -occupied today by Sudan and Libya. | 0:12:52 | 0:12:57 | |
-Nubia was conquered by Egypt because -it was a land rich in gold... | 0:12:58 | 0:13:03 | |
-..and Egyptians brought cats -back with them. | 0:13:03 | 0:13:06 | |
-They used them for fishing and -hunting in the delta marshlands. | 0:13:07 | 0:13:11 | |
-The Egyptians -relied on good harvests... | 0:13:12 | 0:13:14 | |
-..to sustain them -throughout the year. | 0:13:14 | 0:13:17 | |
-Grain had to be protected -from pests like mice and snakes... | 0:13:17 | 0:13:22 | |
-..which ate grain. | 0:13:22 | 0:13:24 | |
-Gradually, cats were enticed -into the villages because of mice... | 0:13:24 | 0:13:28 | |
-..and the Egyptians soon realised -how useful they were. | 0:13:28 | 0:13:32 | |
-They didn't have to be fed - -they lived on mice... | 0:13:32 | 0:13:36 | |
-..and thus protected the harvests -and grain stores. | 0:13:36 | 0:13:40 | |
-So people began making -positive efforts to attract cats... | 0:13:40 | 0:13:44 | |
-..and cats gradually became -part of the family. | 0:13:44 | 0:13:48 | |
-Many of today's cats are descended -from those early cats in Egypt. | 0:13:48 | 0:13:53 | |
-But Sian, it's a big step... | 0:14:18 | 0:14:20 | |
-..from using cats in that way, -to worshipping them. | 0:14:21 | 0:14:25 | |
-How did that begin? | 0:14:25 | 0:14:27 | |
-The Egyptians respected animals, -in any case. | 0:14:27 | 0:14:30 | |
-They believed that we're all -created equally... | 0:14:30 | 0:14:33 | |
-..and we must co-exist, which means -respecting every creature. | 0:14:33 | 0:14:38 | |
-Many creatures were regarded -as gods or goddesses. | 0:14:38 | 0:14:41 | |
-There were three feline goddesses. | 0:14:42 | 0:14:44 | |
-Mafdet, who was -a large black panther... | 0:14:44 | 0:14:47 | |
-..Sekhmet, who was a lioness... | 0:14:47 | 0:14:49 | |
-..and the most well-known and -popular of all, Bastet, or Bast... | 0:14:49 | 0:14:54 | |
-..or Pasht - which may be -the origin of the word 'Puss'. | 0:14:54 | 0:14:59 | |
-Bastet was regarded as a daughter -of Ra, king of all the gods... | 0:14:59 | 0:15:05 | |
-..and god of the sun. | 0:15:05 | 0:15:07 | |
-Ra, as the sun god, -died each evening at sunset... | 0:15:07 | 0:15:12 | |
-..and was reborn -each following dawn. | 0:15:13 | 0:15:16 | |
-During the hours of darkness, -he faced all kinds of dangers... | 0:15:16 | 0:15:20 | |
-..which could jeopardise -his rebirth. | 0:15:20 | 0:15:23 | |
-The Egyptians believed that Bastet, -Ra's daughter... | 0:15:24 | 0:15:27 | |
-..could look into the sunset and -hold the sun's light in her eyes... | 0:15:27 | 0:15:32 | |
-..and that's why cats' eyes -shine in the dark. | 0:15:33 | 0:15:37 | |
-She could see the creatures -of the night, in the dark... | 0:15:37 | 0:15:41 | |
-..and destroy them. | 0:15:42 | 0:15:43 | |
-She protected Ra so that he would -be reborn and life would go on. | 0:15:43 | 0:15:49 | |
-They worshipped Bastet -every year in Bubastis... | 0:15:49 | 0:15:52 | |
-..where there was a big temple -in her honour. | 0:15:52 | 0:15:56 | |
-Cats were carried in large baskets -so that they could be worshipped. | 0:15:57 | 0:16:01 | |
-Cats were so revered... | 0:16:02 | 0:16:04 | |
-..that if anyone killed a cat in -Egypt, they were sentenced to death. | 0:16:04 | 0:16:09 | |
-And if the family cat died... | 0:16:09 | 0:16:12 | |
-..the whole family shaved their -eyebrows as a mark of respect. | 0:16:12 | 0:16:17 | |
-Cats were very highly regarded. | 0:16:17 | 0:16:19 | |
-According to ancient superstition, -cats have nine lives. | 0:16:32 | 0:16:36 | |
-I know from personal experience -how important vets are... | 0:16:37 | 0:16:41 | |
-..in making sure that my cats -lived at least one healthy life. | 0:16:42 | 0:16:47 | |
-Some people will pay a great deal -to keep a cat healthy. | 0:16:47 | 0:16:52 | |
-A vet's day-to-day work... | 0:16:53 | 0:16:55 | |
-..involves handling all kinds -of cats, of all ages. | 0:16:56 | 0:16:59 | |
-Here at the Ystwyth -veterinary surgery in Aberystwyth... | 0:17:00 | 0:17:03 | |
-..Kate Thomas is extremely familiar -with treating pets. | 0:17:03 | 0:17:07 | |
-Kate, do cats -actually have nine lives? | 0:17:10 | 0:17:13 | |
-That's a good question. | 0:17:13 | 0:17:15 | |
-Some cats are in and out of here -all the time... | 0:17:15 | 0:17:20 | |
-..so there must be some aspect -of having many lives! | 0:17:20 | 0:17:24 | |
-You deal with all kinds of cats. | 0:17:25 | 0:17:28 | |
-What's the most common complaint -you deal with? | 0:17:28 | 0:17:31 | |
-Car accidents are a big problem. | 0:17:32 | 0:17:34 | |
-We see lots of animals -with broken legs and so on. | 0:17:34 | 0:17:39 | |
-Endocrine problems -crop up often too. | 0:17:41 | 0:17:44 | |
-Elderly cats often have problems -with their kidneys. | 0:17:44 | 0:17:47 | |
-Thyroid too - some cats -have problems with their thyroid. | 0:17:49 | 0:17:53 | |
-They can suffer -from an overactive thyroid. | 0:17:53 | 0:17:56 | |
-We also come across viruses -that specifically affect cats... | 0:17:56 | 0:18:00 | |
-..such as the leukaemia virus -and the immunodeficiency viruses. | 0:18:00 | 0:18:05 | |
-These affect only cats. | 0:18:05 | 0:18:07 | |
-Cats have their own -particular problems. | 0:18:07 | 0:18:10 | |
-Have you noticed any differences... | 0:18:12 | 0:18:15 | |
-..between the attitudes -of cat owners... | 0:18:15 | 0:18:18 | |
-..and the attitudes of those -who own other animals? | 0:18:18 | 0:18:22 | |
-That's a very interesting question. | 0:18:22 | 0:18:24 | |
-I think there are two -completely different types. | 0:18:24 | 0:18:28 | |
-Cat owners are attracted to cats -for wholly different reasons... | 0:18:28 | 0:18:32 | |
-..than why dog owners choose dogs. | 0:18:33 | 0:18:35 | |
-They're extremely different animals. | 0:18:36 | 0:18:39 | |
-For some people, -cats are in the background. | 0:18:40 | 0:18:43 | |
-They're not part of their lives. | 0:18:44 | 0:18:47 | |
-They're outdoors and they have -a job to do - catching mice. | 0:18:47 | 0:18:52 | |
-Others are obsessed with cats. | 0:18:52 | 0:18:55 | |
-They take over their lives, -in a way. | 0:18:55 | 0:18:58 | |
-What is it about cats? | 0:18:59 | 0:19:01 | |
-They say Egyptian people -were like that. | 0:19:01 | 0:19:04 | |
-Cats can affect us -in different ways. | 0:19:04 | 0:19:07 | |
-Does it surprise you -that people love their cats... | 0:19:08 | 0:19:11 | |
-..and are sometimes willing to spend -a fortune on their healthcare? | 0:19:12 | 0:19:16 | |
-There have been examples -in the news recently... | 0:19:17 | 0:19:20 | |
-..concerning the kind of money -some people will spend. | 0:19:20 | 0:19:24 | |
-Perhaps we don't see -such huge sums spent here... | 0:19:24 | 0:19:28 | |
-..but some people -are quite happy to spend a lot. | 0:19:29 | 0:19:33 | |
-They love their animals so much. | 0:19:33 | 0:19:35 | |
-How much money? | 0:19:36 | 0:19:37 | |
-How much money? - -Ooh... | 0:19:37 | 0:19:37 | |
-Ooh... | 0:19:37 | 0:19:39 | |
-..if we're talking about any kind -of orthopaedic work, for example... | 0:19:39 | 0:19:44 | |
-..it might mean spending 500 -or 600 on one surgical procedure. | 0:19:44 | 0:19:50 | |
-That's quite possible. | 0:19:52 | 0:19:53 | |
-People might spend even more... | 0:19:54 | 0:19:56 | |
-..if something else happened -later on in the cat's life. | 0:19:56 | 0:20:00 | |
-It's not unusual -to see people willing to pay. | 0:20:00 | 0:20:04 | |
-LAUGHTER | 0:20:05 | 0:20:07 | |
-It's amazing how some people -use cats for their own purposes. | 0:20:14 | 0:20:18 | |
-For Cedwyn and Samantha, -and Sali and Jay... | 0:20:19 | 0:20:22 | |
-..having a cat or two means -something completely different. | 0:20:22 | 0:20:26 | |
-After Samantha and I -started seeing each other... | 0:20:29 | 0:20:32 | |
-..after we started -living together... | 0:20:33 | 0:20:36 | |
-..we discussed having children. | 0:20:36 | 0:20:38 | |
-But we weren't used -to looking after a child. | 0:20:38 | 0:20:42 | |
-So we thought we could practise -by getting an animal... | 0:20:42 | 0:20:46 | |
-..and we both like cats - -we don't like dogs. | 0:20:46 | 0:20:50 | |
-We decided to get a cat, -from the cats' home in Bryncethin. | 0:20:50 | 0:20:55 | |
-We lived on the second floor -in a block of flats... | 0:20:56 | 0:21:01 | |
-..and we really wanted -to have children. | 0:21:01 | 0:21:04 | |
-But we needed to save some money. | 0:21:04 | 0:21:07 | |
-And we couldn't carry a buggy -to the second floor. | 0:21:07 | 0:21:12 | |
-And we also wanted cats. | 0:21:12 | 0:21:14 | |
-So a compromise - a cat. | 0:21:14 | 0:21:15 | |
-So a compromise - a cat. - -We had to have two, though. | 0:21:15 | 0:21:16 | |
-We had to have two, though. | 0:21:16 | 0:21:17 | |
-To keep each other company. | 0:21:18 | 0:21:20 | |
-We saw two cats there - two kittens. | 0:21:20 | 0:21:23 | |
-They were ginger. | 0:21:24 | 0:21:25 | |
-We decided to take both, -they'd take more looking after. | 0:21:26 | 0:21:30 | |
-If we could look after two cats, -we'd be ready for a child! | 0:21:30 | 0:21:35 | |
-I phoned the RSPCA. | 0:21:36 | 0:21:38 | |
-They said it's perfectly natural -to keep cats in a flat... | 0:21:38 | 0:21:42 | |
-..without them being able -to go outside... | 0:21:42 | 0:21:45 | |
-..as long as they had -fresh water and love. | 0:21:45 | 0:21:48 | |
-Oh, dear! | 0:21:50 | 0:21:51 | |
-Aren't they a handful! | 0:21:52 | 0:21:54 | |
-Every cat -has its own unique character. | 0:21:55 | 0:21:58 | |
-In November 2003, -the two cats arrived here... | 0:21:59 | 0:22:03 | |
-..and we've had them ever since. | 0:22:04 | 0:22:06 | |
-They're great - -we enjoy having them. | 0:22:07 | 0:22:10 | |
-They're both ginger. | 0:22:10 | 0:22:11 | |
-Both of them are tomcats. | 0:22:12 | 0:22:14 | |
-Because they're ginger, I named one -of them Jenksi after Neil Jenkins... | 0:22:15 | 0:22:21 | |
-..a ginger bloke -who played for Wales! | 0:22:21 | 0:22:24 | |
-Samantha is a football fan... | 0:22:25 | 0:22:27 | |
-..and a big fan of Mark Hughes, -so the other cat's called Sparky! | 0:22:27 | 0:22:33 | |
-We felt it was cruel -to keep cats indoors. | 0:22:34 | 0:22:38 | |
-We needed a garden, -so we moved here... | 0:22:38 | 0:22:41 | |
-And that gave us a reason -to have children! | 0:22:41 | 0:22:45 | |
-The baby is due in July! | 0:22:45 | 0:22:48 | |
-They fulfilled their role - we -became used to looking after them... | 0:22:48 | 0:22:53 | |
-..so we decided to try for a child. | 0:22:53 | 0:22:56 | |
-We were full of confidence! | 0:22:57 | 0:22:59 | |
-And so Gethin came along. | 0:22:59 | 0:23:01 | |
-Gethin is a result of our decision -to have little Jenksis! | 0:23:01 | 0:23:07 | |
-If we hadn't had cats, -we wouldn't have moved... | 0:23:08 | 0:23:11 | |
-..and we wouldn't now -be expecting a baby! | 0:23:12 | 0:23:15 | |
-What have we learnt by now? | 0:23:21 | 0:23:24 | |
-That the link between people -and cats... | 0:23:24 | 0:23:27 | |
-..goes back to the age of the -pyramids and the Egyptian pharaohs. | 0:23:27 | 0:23:33 | |
-There's something psychological -that attracts us to them. | 0:23:33 | 0:23:37 | |
-They can take the place of children, -for some. | 0:23:37 | 0:23:41 | |
-An old Welsh verse says, "A black -cat keeps the house free of worry, | 0:23:44 | 0:23:50 | |
-"Cats born in May -bring snakes indoors, | 0:23:51 | 0:23:54 | |
-"Cats born in June -stick their noses in foam, | 0:23:54 | 0:23:57 | |
-"A visiting cat sweeps the yard." | 0:23:58 | 0:24:00 | |
-888 | 0:24:08 | 0:24:08 | |
-888 - -888 | 0:24:08 | 0:24:10 | |
-Cats are a common feature -in the arts world. | 0:24:15 | 0:24:19 | |
-Paintings, music - -and what about literature? | 0:24:19 | 0:24:23 | |
-Many people have written poems -about cats. | 0:24:35 | 0:24:38 | |
-Do you have any favourites? | 0:24:38 | 0:24:41 | |
-Yes. | 0:24:42 | 0:24:43 | |
-When you look at literature, -it's very interesting. | 0:24:43 | 0:24:47 | |
-I tried to find cats in the Bible, -for example, but there aren't any. | 0:24:47 | 0:24:53 | |
-But there's a lovely story -about Mohammed. | 0:24:53 | 0:24:56 | |
-There was a cat -sleeping on his sleeve... | 0:24:56 | 0:25:01 | |
-..so he had to cut the sleeve off -to avoid waking the cat. | 0:25:01 | 0:25:07 | |
-There are cats in paradise, -according to the Moslem religion. | 0:25:09 | 0:25:14 | |
-That's very interesting. | 0:25:14 | 0:25:17 | |
-There are many authors -who have written about cats. | 0:25:18 | 0:25:21 | |
-There's a lovely poem about a cat, -written by RS Thomas... | 0:25:22 | 0:25:26 | |
-..a cat called Sian! | 0:25:27 | 0:25:28 | |
-It's very interesting -that RS wrote about cats... | 0:25:29 | 0:25:33 | |
-..or about a cat... | 0:25:34 | 0:25:36 | |
-..because he could probably admire -cats only in other people's homes. | 0:25:36 | 0:25:41 | |
-He loved birds and, for that reason, -he couldn't keep a cat. | 0:25:41 | 0:25:47 | |
-Here's the poem about Sian. | 0:25:48 | 0:25:51 | |
-It begins beautifully. | 0:25:52 | 0:25:54 | |
-"Can one make love to a kitten? | 0:25:54 | 0:25:59 | |
-"Sian, purr for me, -jump into my lap, knead me. | 0:26:00 | 0:26:07 | |
-"Shine your claws in my smile. | 0:26:08 | 0:26:10 | |
-"Your talk is a bell fastened -with a ribbon about your throat. | 0:26:11 | 0:26:17 | |
-"My hand thrills to the electricity -of your fur. | 0:26:17 | 0:26:21 | |
-"So small you are, | 0:26:21 | 0:26:23 | |
-"I cradle you on my arm, -wearing you at my breast-bone." | 0:26:23 | 0:26:28 | |
-Yeats, too, was -very fond of cats. | 0:26:29 | 0:26:32 | |
-He liked the idea of cats being -able to see the supernatural. | 0:26:33 | 0:26:38 | |
-He liked the way cats are. | 0:26:38 | 0:26:41 | |
-He tells a friend, in a letter... | 0:26:41 | 0:26:44 | |
-.."Are they really beings... | 0:26:44 | 0:26:46 | |
-"..to which we have access -only at privileged moments?" | 0:26:46 | 0:26:50 | |
-That is, it's only -at certain moments... | 0:26:51 | 0:26:54 | |
-..that we have the rare privilege -of understanding them. | 0:26:54 | 0:26:59 | |
-If we turn to Welsh literature... | 0:26:59 | 0:27:01 | |
-..one of the most unpleasant -portrayals of cats... | 0:27:02 | 0:27:08 | |
-..is the scene described in -Saunders Lewis's novel, 'Monica'. | 0:27:09 | 0:27:13 | |
-Monica shuts herself away -in her house... | 0:27:14 | 0:27:17 | |
-..with these two white cats... | 0:27:17 | 0:27:19 | |
-..and her husband -complains about the smell. | 0:27:19 | 0:27:22 | |
-But she laments that her cats -are all that she has left. | 0:27:24 | 0:27:29 | |
-She sees the cats as things -that justify her existence. | 0:27:30 | 0:27:35 | |
-That's a very interesting portrayal -by Saunders Lewis. | 0:27:35 | 0:27:40 | |
-On a happier, or funnier, note... | 0:27:41 | 0:27:44 | |
-..Waldo wrote a delightful poem -about cats. | 0:27:44 | 0:27:50 | |
-The poem is called -'Ymadawiad Cwrcath'. | 0:27:52 | 0:27:55 | |
-It's interesting... | 0:27:56 | 0:27:57 | |
-..the word "cwrcath" - tomcat - -makes people laugh for some reason. | 0:27:58 | 0:28:02 | |
-The word "cath" doesn't... | 0:28:02 | 0:28:04 | |
-..but "cwrcath" -implies a certain character. | 0:28:04 | 0:28:07 | |
-Of course, this poem is a parody -of T Gwynn Jones. | 0:28:07 | 0:28:12 | |
-I'll read an extract. | 0:28:12 | 0:28:14 | |
-"There you'll find -all the feline scrapping | 0:28:14 | 0:28:17 | |
-"That ever took place on rooftops -beneath the stars, | 0:28:17 | 0:28:21 | |
-"There's cold meat and cawl -for each questing mouth, | 0:28:21 | 0:28:25 | |
-"A pound of cheese -for each pussy that seeks it. | 0:28:25 | 0:28:28 | |
-"Since time began, each tom -has claimed nine lives - | 0:28:28 | 0:28:32 | |
-"There, he takes his tenth breath." | 0:28:32 | 0:28:35 | |
-It describes a struggle -to try to kill this cat. | 0:28:36 | 0:28:40 | |
-But in the end, -"He gave one famous leap, | 0:28:40 | 0:28:45 | |
-"Yet again, he went for the door." | 0:28:45 | 0:28:48 | |
-The cat wins in the end - -there's no getting rid of it! | 0:28:49 | 0:28:54 | |
-From one poet, -at home with her tame cat... | 0:28:56 | 0:29:00 | |
-..to another poet, whose wild cats -roam the fields in Talgarreg. | 0:29:00 | 0:29:05 | |
-Have you always had a cat? | 0:29:08 | 0:29:10 | |
-Have you always had a cat? - -Yes. I was brought up on a farm. | 0:29:10 | 0:29:11 | |
-Yes. I was brought up on a farm. | 0:29:11 | 0:29:13 | |
-I'm very fond of animals. | 0:29:13 | 0:29:15 | |
-I was raised with dogs, cattle, -pigs, sheep - all kinds... | 0:29:16 | 0:29:20 | |
-..and cats, of course - farm cats. | 0:29:20 | 0:29:24 | |
-Very charming creatures - -very tough creatures too. | 0:29:24 | 0:29:27 | |
-I remember them -having the time of their lives... | 0:29:27 | 0:29:31 | |
-..in the barn, in spring, when the -mice came in from the grain store. | 0:29:31 | 0:29:37 | |
-There was little corn left -in the grain store... | 0:29:37 | 0:29:40 | |
-..and the cats waited for the mice -in the barn. | 0:29:40 | 0:29:44 | |
-I watched the drama -from the cowshed! | 0:29:45 | 0:29:48 | |
-It was a deadly, cruel performance. | 0:29:48 | 0:29:51 | |
-The cats were so sure of their prey. | 0:29:53 | 0:29:56 | |
-Many poets have written about cats. | 0:29:57 | 0:30:00 | |
-Have you yourself written something? | 0:30:01 | 0:30:04 | |
-Personally, I haven't -written anything about cats. | 0:30:04 | 0:30:07 | |
-But the late Bardd Cocos -wrote about the cat. | 0:30:08 | 0:30:12 | |
-He called it... | 0:30:12 | 0:30:14 | |
-.."a long-tailed, round-bellied, -mouse-eating creature!" | 0:30:14 | 0:30:18 | |
-There are two important poems -in English... | 0:30:20 | 0:30:23 | |
-..one by Thomas Hardy... | 0:30:23 | 0:30:26 | |
-..one by Thomas Hardy - -'Last Words To A Dumb Friend'. | 0:30:26 | 0:30:32 | |
-He describes the cat's grave... | 0:30:32 | 0:30:34 | |
-..as seen from the hearth, -through the window. | 0:30:35 | 0:30:38 | |
-"Housemate, I can think you still -Bounding to the windowsill | 0:30:39 | 0:30:46 | |
-"Over which I vaguely see -Your small mound beneath a tree | 0:30:47 | 0:30:52 | |
-"Showing in the autumn shade -That you moulder where you played." | 0:30:53 | 0:30:59 | |
-It portrays a cat's death. | 0:31:00 | 0:31:02 | |
-Strangely enough... | 0:31:03 | 0:31:04 | |
-..both of these English poems -are about cats that are dead. | 0:31:04 | 0:31:09 | |
-This second poem is the work -of the poet and lawyer Roy Fuller. | 0:31:09 | 0:31:15 | |
-'In memory of my cat Domino, -1951-66'. | 0:31:15 | 0:31:19 | |
-"So long, had we been together | 0:31:19 | 0:31:21 | |
-"It never occurred to me -that I might fall somewhat behind, | 0:31:22 | 0:31:27 | |
-"Even when, -familiar fur in my hands | 0:31:27 | 0:31:31 | |
-"The sickly wave of -barbiturate rose up | 0:31:31 | 0:31:36 | |
-"I thought it was I who was -journeying on." | 0:31:37 | 0:31:41 | |
-Strangely enough, -I don't know of a single poem... | 0:31:41 | 0:31:45 | |
-..that tells of the other aspect - -the cat's primitive aspect. | 0:31:45 | 0:31:49 | |
-Poets like Ted Hughes, Seamus Heaney -and even Gwyn Thomas... | 0:31:49 | 0:31:54 | |
-..could have written -that kind of poem. | 0:31:54 | 0:31:57 | |
-But I don't know of any. | 0:31:57 | 0:31:59 | |
-Bearing this in mind, -I've written an englyn. | 0:32:00 | 0:32:03 | |
-It demonstrates what a poem -on this theme might be like. | 0:32:05 | 0:32:11 | |
-A portrayal of a cat, civilised in -a comfortable kitchen of an evening. | 0:32:13 | 0:32:18 | |
-But, later, that same cat... | 0:32:18 | 0:32:21 | |
-..returns into the kitchen in the -morning after hunting all night. | 0:32:21 | 0:32:26 | |
-Both elements, the civilised -and the uncivilised... | 0:32:26 | 0:32:29 | |
-..co-existing -within the same creature. | 0:32:29 | 0:32:32 | |
-Here's the englyn. | 0:32:32 | 0:32:34 | |
-"This evening, -purring somnolently with caresses | 0:32:34 | 0:32:39 | |
-"But later, primordial in the dawn, | 0:32:40 | 0:32:44 | |
-"She comes -with the spoils of her hunting | 0:32:45 | 0:32:48 | |
-"Into the kitchen." | 0:32:49 | 0:32:51 | |
-She brings that primitiveness into -the civilised feel of the kitchen... | 0:32:51 | 0:32:56 | |
-..having spent the previous evening -in front of the fire being caressed. | 0:32:56 | 0:33:01 | |
-That's the rounded image of the cat, -the complete image. | 0:33:01 | 0:33:06 | |
-It's an image that startles you. | 0:33:07 | 0:33:09 | |
-It's a very disturbing image. | 0:33:10 | 0:33:12 | |
-It's a thrilling and exciting image. | 0:33:12 | 0:33:15 | |
-After all, that's -the kind of material... | 0:33:16 | 0:33:20 | |
-..that inspires -truly worthwhile poetry. | 0:33:21 | 0:33:24 | |
-PIANO | 0:33:26 | 0:33:28 | |
-What was that? | 0:33:37 | 0:33:38 | |
-What was that? - -That was 'Kitty Valse' by Faure. | 0:33:38 | 0:33:39 | |
-That was 'Kitty Valse' by Faure. | 0:33:39 | 0:33:41 | |
-It's quite a well-known piece. | 0:33:41 | 0:33:43 | |
-Have the world's greatest composers -been inspired by cats at all? | 0:33:44 | 0:33:48 | |
-Some of them. | 0:33:49 | 0:33:50 | |
-Cats appear in the titles -of several pieces. | 0:33:50 | 0:33:54 | |
-There are stories of cats -walking along a piano keyboard. | 0:33:55 | 0:33:59 | |
-There's a story -famously associated with Scarlatti. | 0:33:59 | 0:34:03 | |
-But I also discovered -that Chopin wrote "Cat Waltz"... | 0:34:03 | 0:34:07 | |
-..and the story goes that the cat -walked across the piano - like this. | 0:34:07 | 0:34:13 | |
-# CAT WALTZ # -Chopin | 0:34:13 | 0:34:16 | |
-And so on. | 0:34:18 | 0:34:19 | |
-But I don't think -this story is true... | 0:34:20 | 0:34:23 | |
-..because it sounds too precise -to be a cat! | 0:34:23 | 0:34:26 | |
-However, this one is different. | 0:34:27 | 0:34:28 | |
-This is Scarlatti - another story -of a cat walking across a piano. | 0:34:29 | 0:34:32 | |
-# CAT'S FUGUE # -Scarlatti | 0:34:32 | 0:34:35 | |
-That's more unusual, and I believe -it sounds more authentic. | 0:34:35 | 0:34:39 | |
-Here's the piece - -he included it in his 'Fugue'. | 0:34:40 | 0:34:43 | |
-# CAT'S FUGUE # -Scarlatti | 0:34:44 | 0:34:46 | |
-And so on. | 0:34:56 | 0:34:58 | |
-There are many more -instrumental pieces. | 0:34:58 | 0:35:01 | |
-There are lots of songs too. | 0:35:02 | 0:35:03 | |
-There are lots of songs too. - -Yes - how about some songs? | 0:35:03 | 0:35:05 | |
-Yes - how about some songs? | 0:35:05 | 0:35:06 | |
-# LIVELY MUSIC # | 0:35:06 | 0:35:07 | |
-# LIVELY MUSIC # - -What's that? | 0:35:07 | 0:35:08 | |
-What's that? | 0:35:08 | 0:35:08 | |
-I don't know. I know the tune. | 0:35:09 | 0:35:12 | |
-It starts with two important words - -"Top Cat!" | 0:35:12 | 0:35:15 | |
-I'll try to sing it. | 0:35:17 | 0:35:19 | |
-'Top Cat' was a cartoon. | 0:35:20 | 0:35:22 | |
-# Top Cat, the most effectual, | 0:35:23 | 0:35:25 | |
-# Top Cat, who's intellectual, | 0:35:26 | 0:35:29 | |
-# Close friends get to call him TC, | 0:35:29 | 0:35:32 | |
-# Providing it's with dignity. # | 0:35:33 | 0:35:35 | |
-What comes next? | 0:35:35 | 0:35:37 | |
-What comes next? - -# Top Cat! | 0:35:37 | 0:35:37 | |
-# Top Cat! | 0:35:37 | 0:35:38 | |
-# The indisputable -leader of the gang. # | 0:35:39 | 0:35:42 | |
-And so on. | 0:35:42 | 0:35:44 | |
-I remember that when I was a boy. | 0:35:44 | 0:35:47 | |
-Right, what's this song -from a very well-known film? | 0:35:47 | 0:35:52 | |
-Here's how it begins. It's a waltz. | 0:35:52 | 0:35:55 | |
-What's the film? | 0:35:55 | 0:35:56 | |
-What's the film? - -'What's New Pussycat?' | 0:35:56 | 0:35:56 | |
-'What's New Pussycat?' | 0:35:56 | 0:35:57 | |
-'What's New Pussycat?' was -a co-production with our company... | 0:35:58 | 0:36:02 | |
-..and an American company - -I can't remember the name. | 0:36:02 | 0:36:06 | |
-I remember people bringing a demo -back to the office... | 0:36:06 | 0:36:10 | |
-.."We've got the song, this is it!" | 0:36:10 | 0:36:13 | |
-I said, "Tom Jones sang that - he's -Welsh," but they weren't interested. | 0:36:13 | 0:36:18 | |
-But of course the song became very -famous and it's still played... | 0:36:18 | 0:36:23 | |
-..though the film has disappeared. | 0:36:23 | 0:36:25 | |
-..though the film has disappeared. - -These things go round in circles. | 0:36:25 | 0:36:27 | |
-But it's a superb song. | 0:36:27 | 0:36:28 | |
-But it's a superb song. - -A very difficult song. | 0:36:28 | 0:36:29 | |
-A very difficult song. | 0:36:29 | 0:36:30 | |
-They say Tom Jones was the only one -who could sing it. | 0:36:30 | 0:36:34 | |
-# What's new pussycat? Whoah, whoah. | 0:36:35 | 0:36:38 | |
-# What's new pussycat? -Whoah, whoah, whoah. # | 0:36:38 | 0:36:42 | |
-"Pussycat, Pussycat." | 0:36:44 | 0:36:45 | |
-# Pussycat, Pussycat, -I've got flowers, | 0:36:46 | 0:36:49 | |
-# And lots of hours -to spend with you. | 0:36:50 | 0:36:53 | |
-# So go and powder -your cute little pussycat nose! # | 0:36:53 | 0:36:58 | |
-I'll finish with something -from Wales. | 0:36:58 | 0:37:01 | |
-Most of these are American. -There aren't many songs from Wales. | 0:37:02 | 0:37:06 | |
-But there's 'Pwsi Meri Mew'. | 0:37:07 | 0:37:09 | |
-I only remember half of it! | 0:37:09 | 0:37:10 | |
-I only remember half of it! - -I only remember the first two lines! | 0:37:10 | 0:37:12 | |
-I only remember the first two lines! | 0:37:12 | 0:37:12 | |
-Let's give it a go. | 0:37:13 | 0:37:15 | |
-# Pwsi Meri Mew, -how did you lose your fur? | 0:37:15 | 0:37:19 | |
-# Going through a thick bush -in the frost and the snow. | 0:37:19 | 0:37:24 | |
-# What welcome -did you receive there? # | 0:37:25 | 0:37:28 | |
-And so on. | 0:37:28 | 0:37:30 | |
-Now then - what famous duet -by Rossini shall we finish with? | 0:37:30 | 0:37:35 | |
-No. Let's leave that duet -to someone else... | 0:37:36 | 0:37:39 | |
-..someone who can do better! | 0:37:39 | 0:37:40 | |
-..someone who can do better! - -Amen! | 0:37:40 | 0:37:41 | |
-Amen! | 0:37:41 | 0:37:42 | |
-# COMIC DUET FOR TWO CATS # -Rossini | 0:37:42 | 0:37:45 | |
-# Mi-a-aow, | 0:37:46 | 0:37:48 | |
-# Mi-i-i-i-aow! | 0:37:48 | 0:37:50 | |
-# Mi-i-i-i-i-i-aow, | 0:37:50 | 0:37:52 | |
-# Mi-i-i-i-i-i-aow, - -# Mi-i-i-aow. | 0:37:52 | 0:37:54 | |
-# Mi-i-i-aow. | 0:37:54 | 0:37:55 | |
-# Mi-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-aow! | 0:37:56 | 0:38:01 | |
-# Mi-i-i-a-a-a-aow, | 0:38:01 | 0:38:03 | |
-# Mi-i-i-a-a-a-aow, - -# Mi-i-i-i-i-aow! | 0:38:03 | 0:38:05 | |
-# Mi-i-i-i-i-aow! | 0:38:05 | 0:38:05 | |
-# Mi-i-i-a-a-a-aow, | 0:38:06 | 0:38:07 | |
-# Mi-i-i-a-a-a-aow, - -# Mi-i-i-i-i-aow! | 0:38:07 | 0:38:09 | |
-# Mi-i-i-i-i-aow! | 0:38:09 | 0:38:09 | |
-# Mi-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-aow, | 0:38:09 | 0:38:14 | |
-# Mi-i-i-aow! # | 0:38:14 | 0:38:19 | |
-APPLAUSE | 0:38:21 | 0:38:23 | |
-888 | 0:38:28 | 0:38:28 | |
-888 - -888 | 0:38:28 | 0:38:30 | |
-You mustn't think -that everyone loves cats. | 0:38:35 | 0:38:38 | |
-Some people hate them. | 0:38:39 | 0:38:40 | |
-Come in. Sit down. | 0:38:49 | 0:38:50 | |
-Come in. Sit down. - -Thank you. | 0:38:50 | 0:38:51 | |
-Thank you. | 0:38:51 | 0:38:52 | |
-I'll go and fetch Tomos. | 0:38:52 | 0:38:55 | |
-Right-ho. -I'd like to see the creature. | 0:38:55 | 0:38:58 | |
-Is he comfortable with strangers? | 0:38:59 | 0:39:01 | |
-Will you take him? | 0:39:01 | 0:39:03 | |
-Will you take him? - -No, I don't want him! | 0:39:03 | 0:39:03 | |
-No, I don't want him! | 0:39:03 | 0:39:05 | |
-No, really, no! | 0:39:05 | 0:39:06 | |
-Take him away, I beg you! -I'm really scared of cats. | 0:39:07 | 0:39:11 | |
-Mr OP Roberts lived next door to me. | 0:39:11 | 0:39:15 | |
-He told me -when I came to live here... | 0:39:16 | 0:39:19 | |
-..that I had to do the garden! | 0:39:20 | 0:39:23 | |
-He'd been a Sergeant Major -in the Army, in Ireland. | 0:39:23 | 0:39:27 | |
-He was quite a Sergeant Major -when he lived next door! | 0:39:27 | 0:39:32 | |
-He told me to grow potatoes -first of all. | 0:39:32 | 0:39:36 | |
-He grew potatoes - -he grew everything. | 0:39:36 | 0:39:39 | |
-We'd chat over the garden wall. | 0:39:39 | 0:39:42 | |
-But cats gave me trouble... | 0:39:42 | 0:39:44 | |
-..other people's cats - -I didn't have cats. | 0:39:45 | 0:39:48 | |
-Honestly, I came up with -every trick we could think of... | 0:39:49 | 0:39:54 | |
-..to try and get rid of the cats. | 0:39:54 | 0:39:57 | |
-I left lemon and orange peel -between the rows of potatoes. | 0:39:58 | 0:40:02 | |
-The cats did their business there... | 0:40:03 | 0:40:05 | |
-..and that put me off -eating the potatoes! | 0:40:05 | 0:40:09 | |
-Who'd want to eat parsley -if a cat's been pooing there?! | 0:40:09 | 0:40:12 | |
-Goodness, we had so much trouble! | 0:40:13 | 0:40:16 | |
-We came up with all kinds of things. | 0:40:16 | 0:40:20 | |
-Placing barbed wire on the walls -to stop cats getting in. | 0:40:20 | 0:40:24 | |
-Sprinkling pepper around everything. | 0:40:24 | 0:40:26 | |
-It didn't work. | 0:40:26 | 0:40:28 | |
-But cattle are his main delight. | 0:40:28 | 0:40:31 | |
-Yes - well, you've got to keep -everyone happy. | 0:40:31 | 0:40:35 | |
-Talk about happy - I'll have -to move, there's a cat over there! | 0:40:35 | 0:40:40 | |
-Then, we tried leaving a stuffed toy -dog among the blackcurrant bushes! | 0:40:45 | 0:40:51 | |
-It was the same principle as -a scarecrow to get rid of crows... | 0:40:52 | 0:40:57 | |
-..but using a stuffed dog -to get rid of cats! | 0:40:57 | 0:41:01 | |
-Then, we tried plastic bottles -filled with water... | 0:41:01 | 0:41:05 | |
-..and we'd rush out -and squirt the cats. | 0:41:05 | 0:41:08 | |
-I don't know... | 0:41:09 | 0:41:10 | |
-This went on year after year. | 0:41:10 | 0:41:13 | |
-We did consider getting an air gun! | 0:41:13 | 0:41:16 | |
-These strange people do exist, -but I'm not one of them. | 0:41:20 | 0:41:25 | |
-I may not ever be able to convince -some people about a cat's appeal. | 0:41:25 | 0:41:31 | |
-And I'll never -understand the difference... | 0:41:31 | 0:41:34 | |
-..between those who like cats -and those who loathe them. | 0:41:34 | 0:41:38 | |
-Perhaps their appeal -is somehow linked with magic. | 0:41:38 | 0:41:43 | |
-"I have a black cat -quite unlike any other, | 0:41:48 | 0:41:51 | |
-"She'll fight the gander, -she'll pluck his feathers. | 0:41:52 | 0:41:56 | |
-"She has claws and a beard, -and they're so pretty. | 0:41:56 | 0:42:00 | |
-"She chases the masses of mice -from the garden. | 0:42:01 | 0:42:05 | |
-"When she comes into the house, -she bullies the dog. | 0:42:05 | 0:42:09 | |
-"Take my advice - keep a black cat." | 0:42:10 | 0:42:13 | |
-Black cats are considered by some -to be lucky, by others unlucky. | 0:42:14 | 0:42:19 | |
-Do you like cats, Eirlys? | 0:42:26 | 0:42:27 | |
-Do you like cats, Eirlys? - -Yes. I have two at the moment... | 0:42:27 | 0:42:28 | |
-Yes. I have two at the moment... | 0:42:28 | 0:42:30 | |
-..and I think the world of them. | 0:42:30 | 0:42:33 | |
-Can you tell me about people's -superstitions concerning cats? | 0:42:34 | 0:42:38 | |
-Black cats are the usual focus. | 0:42:38 | 0:42:41 | |
-They're considered to be -either lucky or unlucky. | 0:42:42 | 0:42:45 | |
-I think people who hate cats -consider them to be unlucky. | 0:42:46 | 0:42:50 | |
-People who like them -say they're fine. | 0:42:50 | 0:42:53 | |
-If a black cat crosses your path, it -foretells bad luck - in some areas. | 0:42:54 | 0:43:00 | |
-In others, it brings you luck. | 0:43:00 | 0:43:02 | |
-I read of a man -who was about to be married... | 0:43:03 | 0:43:07 | |
-..and a black cat crossed his path. | 0:43:08 | 0:43:11 | |
-He believed it was a witch in -disguise and threw a stone at it. | 0:43:11 | 0:43:17 | |
-That brought him bad luck! | 0:43:17 | 0:43:19 | |
-What's the link -between cats and witches? | 0:43:24 | 0:43:27 | |
-It goes back to ancient Egypt. | 0:43:28 | 0:43:30 | |
-Isis, the mother goddess -of the earth... | 0:43:30 | 0:43:33 | |
-..was associated with cats. | 0:43:34 | 0:43:35 | |
-Cats were regarded -as a manifestation of Isis. | 0:43:36 | 0:43:39 | |
-The Romans believed that Diana, -the goddess of fertility... | 0:43:39 | 0:43:43 | |
-..could turn herself into a cat. | 0:43:43 | 0:43:46 | |
-There's something enchanting -about cats. | 0:43:46 | 0:43:49 | |
-People often believed, -down the years... | 0:43:49 | 0:43:52 | |
-..that witches could transform -themselves into cats. | 0:43:52 | 0:43:55 | |
-Also, that the devil gave cats to -witches to help them with spells. | 0:43:56 | 0:44:01 | |
-If you wanted to enchant someone... | 0:44:01 | 0:44:04 | |
-..you'd take an item belonging to -them, such as a glove... | 0:44:04 | 0:44:08 | |
-..and rub it on your cat. | 0:44:09 | 0:44:11 | |
-This would bring them bad luck. | 0:44:11 | 0:44:14 | |
-A young witch would be given -an old cat that knew about spells... | 0:44:14 | 0:44:19 | |
-..to help her! | 0:44:19 | 0:44:21 | |
-Are there any Welsh examples -of witches transforming into cats? | 0:44:27 | 0:44:31 | |
-Yes. | 0:44:32 | 0:44:34 | |
-There's the 17th century story -of Huw Llwyd of Cynfal... | 0:44:34 | 0:44:38 | |
-..who stayed in a tavern -in Cerrigydrudion. | 0:44:38 | 0:44:41 | |
-The tavern was kept by two sisters. | 0:44:41 | 0:44:44 | |
-During the night, -he saw two cats in his room... | 0:44:44 | 0:44:48 | |
-..going through his clothes -as though looking for money. | 0:44:48 | 0:44:52 | |
-He realised they were witches... | 0:44:52 | 0:44:55 | |
-..and he took his sword and struck -one of the cats on her paw. | 0:44:55 | 0:45:00 | |
-The following morning, one -of the sisters had a bandaged hand! | 0:45:00 | 0:45:05 | |
-Evidently, she had been that cat! | 0:45:05 | 0:45:07 | |
-People believed -that whatever happened to the cat... | 0:45:08 | 0:45:11 | |
-..or to the witch -when in the form of a cat... | 0:45:11 | 0:45:16 | |
-..affected the witch's human form. | 0:45:16 | 0:45:18 | |
-Eirlys, you're also a preacher. | 0:45:18 | 0:45:20 | |
-Do you believe cats have a soul? | 0:45:22 | 0:45:25 | |
-I'm sure every living thing -has a soul. | 0:45:25 | 0:45:28 | |
-If you're fond of cats, could heaven -be heaven without any cats? | 0:45:29 | 0:45:34 | |
-I'm glad you believe that! | 0:45:34 | 0:45:36 | |
-Well, he we are... | 0:45:42 | 0:45:44 | |
-..nearly at the end of our voyage -of discovery about cats... | 0:45:44 | 0:45:49 | |
-..and what they mean to people. | 0:45:49 | 0:45:52 | |
-But have we gone a bit too far -in our love towards them? | 0:45:53 | 0:45:59 | |
-One feels that cats -have been here before... | 0:46:01 | 0:46:04 | |
-..every cat has lived before. | 0:46:04 | 0:46:06 | |
-They seem to know -everything about you. | 0:46:06 | 0:46:09 | |
-They're otherworldly. | 0:46:10 | 0:46:11 | |
-They give me a lot of pleasure. | 0:46:12 | 0:46:15 | |
-And companionship - -they talk to you. | 0:46:15 | 0:46:18 | |
-They demand attention. -They enjoy a cwtch. | 0:46:18 | 0:46:21 | |
-The house is empty without them. | 0:46:21 | 0:46:24 | |
-They're never the same - -they're always changing. | 0:46:24 | 0:46:27 | |
-They change their appearance, -and the way they behave. | 0:46:28 | 0:46:31 | |
-You can't tell what they'll do next. | 0:46:32 | 0:46:35 | |
-They're very good company. | 0:46:35 | 0:46:37 | |
-Listening to a cat purring -is very relaxing, for example. | 0:46:37 | 0:46:43 | |
-I think cats are appealing -because they're otherworldly... | 0:46:44 | 0:46:47 | |
-..because they operate to their own -timetable, to a certain degree. | 0:46:49 | 0:46:53 | |
-There's something philosophical -about them. | 0:46:54 | 0:46:57 | |
-It's impossible to be angry -with anyone, when you stroke a cat. | 0:46:57 | 0:47:02 | |
-And it's impossible for you -to suffer from stress... | 0:47:02 | 0:47:06 | |
-..when you're stroking a cat. | 0:47:06 | 0:47:09 | |
-They expect to be worshipped - -and, of course, we worship them. | 0:47:10 | 0:47:14 | |
-There's nothing better than -having a cat purring on your knee. | 0:47:14 | 0:47:19 | |
-If a man can find peace... | 0:47:19 | 0:47:22 | |
-..why did he seek that relationship -with his Creator? | 0:47:22 | 0:47:26 | |
-This illustrates an important theme. | 0:47:26 | 0:47:29 | |
-For some, it's cats, or people... | 0:47:29 | 0:47:31 | |
-..for others, it's God - -and for some, it's everything. | 0:47:32 | 0:47:35 | |
-We've now reached -the end of our journey. | 0:47:39 | 0:47:43 | |
-What have we learned -about people and cats? | 0:47:44 | 0:47:48 | |
-Well, the relationship -stretches back... | 0:47:50 | 0:47:53 | |
-..over thousands upon thousands -of years. | 0:47:53 | 0:47:56 | |
-Artists and musicians have created -works of art involving cats. | 0:47:57 | 0:48:02 | |
-Scientists have proved that they're -generally good for our health. | 0:48:03 | 0:48:07 | |
-And there's something about cats' -attitude that attracts us to them. | 0:48:08 | 0:48:13 | |
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-There's a woman in Camden Town... | 0:48:16 | 0:48:19 | |
-..who says that cats -are waiting patiently... | 0:48:19 | 0:48:22 | |
-..while they prepare -to rule the world... | 0:48:22 | 0:48:25 | |
-..once again! | 0:48:25 | 0:48:27 | |
-I wouldn't be surprised! | 0:48:27 | 0:48:29 | |
-For me, at least, the world -would be a far poorer place... | 0:48:29 | 0:48:34 | |
-..without the company of cats. | 0:48:34 | 0:48:36 | |
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