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-When I arrived here today... | 0:00:41 | 0:00:43 | |
-..I kept having flashbacks -of my childhood. | 0:00:43 | 0:00:46 | |
-Standing on a milk stand, -pretending to be a pop star... | 0:00:47 | 0:00:51 | |
-..with a hairbrush in my hand -and a tennis racket for a guitar. | 0:00:51 | 0:00:55 | |
-I just can't get over -how calm and serene it is. | 0:00:56 | 0:01:00 | |
-I definitely feel a longing. | 0:01:02 | 0:01:04 | |
-I'd love to live -in a place like this now. | 0:01:04 | 0:01:07 | |
-I was born in the early 1970s. | 0:01:34 | 0:01:37 | |
-Mam and Dad bought this farm -in 1970. | 0:01:37 | 0:01:41 | |
-Everything happened for them -within a year and a half. | 0:01:41 | 0:01:45 | |
-Their world totally changed. | 0:01:45 | 0:01:47 | |
-I lived here until the first year -of my degree course in Cardiff. | 0:01:47 | 0:01:53 | |
-This farm is where I grew up. -It was a working farm. | 0:01:54 | 0:01:58 | |
-My father kept dairy cattle. | 0:01:58 | 0:02:01 | |
-We also kept sheep. | 0:02:01 | 0:02:03 | |
-We had around 30 acres. | 0:02:03 | 0:02:05 | |
-I don't have an earliest memory -as such. | 0:02:13 | 0:02:16 | |
-It's more of a collection of memories -to do with this farm. | 0:02:16 | 0:02:20 | |
-I remember going hunting -and collecting tadpoles. | 0:02:20 | 0:02:24 | |
-I remember burying my first cat -in the forest. | 0:02:24 | 0:02:27 | |
-I remember a tree falling down -on the road... | 0:02:28 | 0:02:31 | |
-..and all the fuss it generated. | 0:02:31 | 0:02:34 | |
-I have to admit... | 0:02:39 | 0:02:42 | |
-..I don't think I appreciated -being brought up here. | 0:02:42 | 0:02:46 | |
-I didn't like living on a farm -because it was so remote. | 0:02:46 | 0:02:50 | |
-I had to walk a mile every day -to catch the school bus. | 0:02:51 | 0:02:54 | |
-Nobody lived nearby -to give me a lift. | 0:02:54 | 0:02:57 | |
-Mam was always rushing around -and Dad was always working. | 0:02:58 | 0:03:02 | |
-I felt completely isolated up here. | 0:03:02 | 0:03:05 | |
-I come back here now and think -how lucky we were as children... | 0:03:07 | 0:03:12 | |
-..to be brought up -in such a lovely place. | 0:03:12 | 0:03:15 | |
-She never helped out -with the farming duties. | 0:03:16 | 0:03:21 | |
-She hated farm work. | 0:03:21 | 0:03:23 | |
-I wasn't too fond of it, -but Eleri never came to help... | 0:03:23 | 0:03:27 | |
-..even if Dad shouted at her. | 0:03:28 | 0:03:30 | |
-"Come on, you have to help." -But she never did. | 0:03:30 | 0:03:33 | |
-She'd go on strike instead. | 0:03:34 | 0:03:36 | |
-I remember trying to herd sheep -from the field into the shed. | 0:03:36 | 0:03:41 | |
-One of the sheep ran towards her. | 0:03:41 | 0:03:43 | |
-That's the only time I've ever seen -Eleri running away from anything. | 0:03:43 | 0:03:48 | |
-She never got her hands dirty -on the farm. | 0:03:48 | 0:03:52 | |
-I spent all those years with Meilyr, -my brother, at Penrallt Lwyd. | 0:03:52 | 0:03:58 | |
-We didn't get on that well, -I have to admit. | 0:03:58 | 0:04:01 | |
-There are two years between us. -We were both born on 18 January. | 0:04:01 | 0:04:05 | |
-We used to fall out a lot. | 0:04:09 | 0:04:11 | |
-He was a bit of a mummy's boy. | 0:04:11 | 0:04:14 | |
-As the older sister, Mam was out -at work, Dad was at work... | 0:04:16 | 0:04:20 | |
-..so they needed us to help out -around the house. | 0:04:20 | 0:04:24 | |
-She'd leave us a to-do list. | 0:04:24 | 0:04:26 | |
-"Eleri, you do this. -Meilyr, you do that." | 0:04:27 | 0:04:30 | |
-But Meilyr would go, -"Huh, I'm not doing it." | 0:04:30 | 0:04:33 | |
-There was a lot of falling out. | 0:04:33 | 0:04:35 | |
-One day, he wouldn't wash the dishes, -so I had to do it. | 0:04:36 | 0:04:39 | |
-I grabbed a floor-brush -and hit him with it. | 0:04:40 | 0:04:43 | |
-Unfortunately, -I caught him in the mouth... | 0:04:43 | 0:04:46 | |
-..and severed the root -of his front tooth. | 0:04:47 | 0:04:50 | |
-We fought like cat and dog -as children. | 0:04:50 | 0:04:53 | |
-She was a ferocious sister -and the best bouncer I've ever had. | 0:04:53 | 0:04:57 | |
-When we went to secondary school... | 0:04:57 | 0:05:00 | |
-..if someone picked a fight with me -or bullied me... | 0:05:01 | 0:05:04 | |
-..Eleri would sort them out. | 0:05:05 | 0:05:06 | |
-She wasn't afraid of anything -or anyone. | 0:05:07 | 0:05:11 | |
-Meilyr and I -both competed in eisteddfodau. | 0:05:26 | 0:05:29 | |
-We'd do the circuit. | 0:05:29 | 0:05:31 | |
-Almost all our Saturdays -between October and Easter... | 0:05:31 | 0:05:38 | |
-..were spent travelling -to various eisteddfodau. | 0:05:38 | 0:05:42 | |
-We'd go as far as Tumble -and Abergorlech. | 0:05:42 | 0:05:45 | |
-We'd go all the way to Tywyn -and the surrounding area. | 0:05:45 | 0:05:49 | |
-If Air Miles had existed back then, -Mam would have been rich! | 0:05:49 | 0:05:53 | |
-We looked forward -to the major eisteddfodau. | 0:05:53 | 0:05:56 | |
-Cardigan and Lampeter -had good cash prizes. | 0:05:57 | 0:06:01 | |
-The Pontrhydfendigaid eisteddfod -was the pinnacle. | 0:06:02 | 0:06:05 | |
-You'd get 30 -if you won first prize. | 0:06:05 | 0:06:08 | |
-It was a remote location. | 0:06:21 | 0:06:24 | |
-During the 1970s and 1980s, -there were no mobile phones. | 0:06:25 | 0:06:30 | |
-Dad was a hopeless timekeeper, -so Mam had to call him at mealtimes. | 0:06:30 | 0:06:36 | |
-He could be out -in the furthest field. | 0:06:37 | 0:06:40 | |
-So when dinner or supper was ready, -she'd shout... | 0:06:40 | 0:06:44 | |
-.."Alfor!" | 0:06:44 | 0:06:47 | |
-Alfor! | 0:06:48 | 0:06:50 | |
-Alfor! | 0:06:51 | 0:06:54 | |
-Or I'd call for Mam when it was -my turn to make dinner or supper. | 0:06:54 | 0:06:58 | |
-Mami! | 0:06:59 | 0:07:01 | |
-Mami! | 0:07:01 | 0:07:04 | |
-Mami! | 0:07:04 | 0:07:06 | |
-They'd come! They'd run home! | 0:07:08 | 0:07:11 | |
-Penrallt Lwyd is on a remote hill -in the Vale of Aeron. | 0:07:23 | 0:07:27 | |
-Some people did live nearby. | 0:07:28 | 0:07:31 | |
-A small road runs past the house. | 0:07:32 | 0:07:36 | |
-People had a tendency -to slow down... | 0:07:36 | 0:07:40 | |
-..just to see what was going on -in Penrallt Lwyd. | 0:07:40 | 0:07:44 | |
-I could see the other farms -right across the valley. | 0:07:44 | 0:07:48 | |
-I'd say, I wonder what's going on -over there? | 0:07:48 | 0:07:52 | |
-I went to university in Cardiff -and stayed there for many years. | 0:07:52 | 0:07:56 | |
-I never missed the nosiness -that came with rural life. | 0:07:57 | 0:08:02 | |
-But it's all gone now. | 0:08:05 | 0:08:07 | |
-I'm in a place now... | 0:08:07 | 0:08:09 | |
-..where I think -I'd love to live here... | 0:08:09 | 0:08:12 | |
-..and not mind people -knowing my business. | 0:08:12 | 0:08:15 | |
-She always loved sport. | 0:08:18 | 0:08:20 | |
-Rounders, netball. | 0:08:20 | 0:08:23 | |
-She went on to play hockey. | 0:08:23 | 0:08:25 | |
-She played rugby at university. | 0:08:25 | 0:08:28 | |
-She never liked losing. | 0:08:28 | 0:08:30 | |
-I think she still has -that competitive streak. | 0:08:31 | 0:08:35 | |
-She's a very determined person. | 0:08:35 | 0:08:38 | |
-She's confident too. -She knows what she wants. | 0:08:39 | 0:08:42 | |
-Once she sets herself a goal, -she goes for it. | 0:08:42 | 0:08:48 | |
-She never gives up. | 0:08:48 | 0:08:50 | |
-I've rarely seen her -give up on anything. | 0:08:50 | 0:08:54 | |
-The drive has come from Mam, -without a doubt. | 0:08:57 | 0:09:01 | |
-She wanted us -to have the best of everything. | 0:09:01 | 0:09:04 | |
-Although I had the drive -when I was younger... | 0:09:04 | 0:09:08 | |
-..losing Mam when I was 18... | 0:09:08 | 0:09:10 | |
-..meant that I had -to look after myself. | 0:09:10 | 0:09:14 | |
-I couldn't expect Dad to do it -because he had enough on his plate. | 0:09:14 | 0:09:18 | |
-He had to look after Meilyr, -who was only 16. | 0:09:18 | 0:09:21 | |
-I had to grow up very fast. | 0:09:22 | 0:09:24 | |
-But I was lucky -to have had 18 years with her. | 0:09:24 | 0:09:27 | |
-I know of children who have lost -a parent at a much younger age. | 0:09:28 | 0:09:32 | |
-That has always been... | 0:09:32 | 0:09:35 | |
-..at the back of my mind. | 0:09:35 | 0:09:38 | |
-I felt lucky that I'd had -that length of time with her. | 0:09:38 | 0:09:43 | |
-But without a doubt, -she gave us the drive. | 0:09:43 | 0:09:46 | |
-We left Penrallt Lwyd -when I was 20 or 21. | 0:10:02 | 0:10:06 | |
-Dad was living here, of course, -after losing Mam. | 0:10:06 | 0:10:10 | |
-He was heartbroken -and lost all interest in farming. | 0:10:10 | 0:10:14 | |
-Mam saw to the day-to-day running -of the farm. | 0:10:14 | 0:10:18 | |
-He also had a job besides -keeping an eye on things here. | 0:10:18 | 0:10:23 | |
-He worked incredibly hard. | 0:10:23 | 0:10:26 | |
-He lost all interest -after losing his right-hand woman. | 0:10:26 | 0:10:31 | |
-That's why he left. | 0:10:33 | 0:10:36 | |
-It's difficult -coming back to the area... | 0:10:36 | 0:10:39 | |
-..because Mam is buried -in Neuadd-lwyd. | 0:10:39 | 0:10:42 | |
-We have to pass the chapel -on our way here. | 0:10:43 | 0:10:45 | |
-I find it difficult -visiting the grave. | 0:10:46 | 0:10:48 | |
-I feel guilty that I don't go -as often as I should, but it's hard. | 0:10:49 | 0:10:54 | |
-It's even harder -since Alffi was born. | 0:10:54 | 0:10:57 | |
-I miss her more now... | 0:10:58 | 0:11:01 | |
-..than perhaps ten years ago, -when it was more recent. | 0:11:01 | 0:11:05 | |
-She's not around for me to ask, -"What should I do here?" | 0:11:06 | 0:11:12 | |
-She's not there for me to say, -"Please come and look after him." | 0:11:12 | 0:11:17 | |
-But Dad fills that role perfectly. | 0:11:17 | 0:11:20 | |
-It's surprised me -how good he is with him. | 0:11:20 | 0:11:25 | |
-I know she's up there -looking down... | 0:11:25 | 0:11:29 | |
-..and giving my father strength. | 0:11:29 | 0:11:31 | |
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-This is the first time -I've been outside the shop. | 0:12:22 | 0:12:26 | |
-It's such a relief -that it's not a Starbucks. | 0:12:26 | 0:12:29 | |
-They've had to keep the facade -as part of the lease. | 0:12:30 | 0:12:33 | |
-They've had to keep -the blue and white. | 0:12:34 | 0:12:36 | |
-It's like Aberaeron - every house -has its own specific colour. | 0:12:36 | 0:12:41 | |
-My connection with this shop -in Rugby Street in London... | 0:12:42 | 0:12:47 | |
-..stems from the fact that my mother -worked here in the 1960s. | 0:12:47 | 0:12:52 | |
-I think she came here in 1960. | 0:12:52 | 0:12:54 | |
-A family from Ceredigion -ran a shop here. | 0:12:54 | 0:12:58 | |
-The Davies family. | 0:12:59 | 0:13:01 | |
-They were known -as Eirlys and Glyn Rugby Street... | 0:13:01 | 0:13:05 | |
-..among the London Welsh -in the big city. | 0:13:05 | 0:13:09 | |
-Mam worked in the shop. | 0:13:09 | 0:13:11 | |
-It used to be a dairy. | 0:13:12 | 0:13:14 | |
-It functioned as a dairy... | 0:13:14 | 0:13:16 | |
-..and a grocery shop. | 0:13:16 | 0:13:18 | |
-Mam used to work in the shop. | 0:13:20 | 0:13:23 | |
-She also looked after the daughters, -Bethan and Llinos Eleri. | 0:13:23 | 0:13:28 | |
-I was named after the youngest girl, -Llinos Eleri. | 0:13:28 | 0:13:33 | |
-When Mam told me -that she'd lived in Bloomsbury... | 0:13:33 | 0:13:37 | |
-..I was intrigued to find out -the area's history. | 0:13:37 | 0:13:42 | |
-It's associated with the arts... | 0:13:42 | 0:13:45 | |
-..and medicine. | 0:13:45 | 0:13:47 | |
-Many artists, poets and writers -have lived here. | 0:13:47 | 0:13:51 | |
-TS Eliot, Charles Dickens... | 0:13:51 | 0:13:54 | |
-..and Virginia Woolf all lived here. | 0:13:55 | 0:13:58 | |
-Later occupants... | 0:13:58 | 0:14:00 | |
-..who came to live opposite -in 18 Rugby Street... | 0:14:00 | 0:14:04 | |
-..were Ted Hughes and Sylvia Plath. | 0:14:04 | 0:14:06 | |
-He had a lot of visitors, -one of whom was Dylan Thomas. | 0:14:06 | 0:14:10 | |
-Yoko Ono came into the shop -to buy milk... | 0:14:10 | 0:14:15 | |
-..because she only lived -around the corner. | 0:14:15 | 0:14:18 | |
-There was a wealth of talent -from the arts world in this area... | 0:14:19 | 0:14:24 | |
-..on the doorstep of this shop -where my mother lived. | 0:14:24 | 0:14:28 | |
-My mother came to London -to work in this shop... | 0:14:39 | 0:14:43 | |
-..at the tender age of 17. | 0:14:43 | 0:14:45 | |
-Her sister, Elinor, -was already here working. | 0:14:46 | 0:14:49 | |
-She worked for another family -from Ceredigion who owned a shop. | 0:14:50 | 0:14:55 | |
-Moving from rural Wales -to work in London was a big thing. | 0:14:58 | 0:15:04 | |
-It's something -I'd always hoped I'd do one day... | 0:15:04 | 0:15:07 | |
-..because I've bought a flat here -with my friend. | 0:15:08 | 0:15:11 | |
-But I never had the guts -or the courage... | 0:15:11 | 0:15:15 | |
-..to just leave Wales -and come here to live and work. | 0:15:15 | 0:15:19 | |
-She did something that I never did -and something I'd hoped I'd do. | 0:15:20 | 0:15:24 | |
-This is where Mam lived -when she was here. | 0:15:34 | 0:15:37 | |
-The small room next door -was apparently just a box room. | 0:15:37 | 0:15:42 | |
-This is where she lived, -in this small but lovely room. | 0:15:43 | 0:15:46 | |
-To think that she was -only 17 years old... | 0:15:48 | 0:15:52 | |
-..and had slept in a bed... | 0:15:52 | 0:15:54 | |
-..in this very room. | 0:15:55 | 0:15:57 | |
-It's a strange feeling... | 0:15:57 | 0:16:00 | |
-..and very emotional, -as you'd expect. | 0:16:00 | 0:16:04 | |
-It's lovely being here... | 0:16:04 | 0:16:06 | |
-..and to have perhaps relived -a moment of her life... | 0:16:07 | 0:16:13 | |
-..back in the 1960s here in London. | 0:16:13 | 0:16:15 | |
-Mam and Auntie Elinor -left their jobs... | 0:16:22 | 0:16:27 | |
-..without telling the owners. | 0:16:27 | 0:16:29 | |
-They did that -because they were afraid... | 0:16:29 | 0:16:32 | |
-..that the owners -would persuade them to stay. | 0:16:32 | 0:16:36 | |
-The Welsh people who owned and ran -these shops and dairies... | 0:16:36 | 0:16:41 | |
-..said Ceredigion women -were the best workers... | 0:16:41 | 0:16:45 | |
-..because they were reliable -and hard-working. | 0:16:45 | 0:16:48 | |
-Mam met Dad... | 0:16:49 | 0:16:52 | |
-..and she was offered a job -managing a shop in New Quay... | 0:16:52 | 0:16:56 | |
-..so she upped and left. | 0:16:56 | 0:16:58 | |
-Mam-gu had never driven -outside Ceredigion. | 0:16:59 | 0:17:02 | |
-She jumped in the car... | 0:17:02 | 0:17:04 | |
-..and came all the way to London -to bring Mam home. | 0:17:05 | 0:17:08 | |
-I'm getting goose pimples -just sitting outside here... | 0:17:12 | 0:17:16 | |
-..and thinking about all the history -and our family ties. | 0:17:16 | 0:17:20 | |
-It's also on Rugby Street -and rugby's a big part of my life. | 0:17:21 | 0:17:25 | |
-I feel so emotional -being here today. | 0:17:25 | 0:17:29 | |
-We're in the Millennium Stadium. | 0:18:01 | 0:18:04 | |
-In my opinion, -it's the best stadium in the world. | 0:18:04 | 0:18:08 | |
-Perhaps one of the reasons -I've chosen the Millennium... | 0:18:08 | 0:18:12 | |
-..is because I've spent -some of the most exciting days... | 0:18:12 | 0:18:16 | |
-..of my working life here. | 0:18:16 | 0:18:18 | |
-I pinch myself each time I'm given -the privilege of coming here. | 0:18:19 | 0:18:23 | |
-When I walk in here for any game.... | 0:18:23 | 0:18:27 | |
-..usually for Wales's -rugby internationals... | 0:18:28 | 0:18:32 | |
-..I'm always filled with hope, -anticipation and excitement. | 0:18:32 | 0:18:38 | |
-It's no longer -a feeling of confidence. | 0:18:38 | 0:18:41 | |
-There's nervousness too -because I have to do a day's work. | 0:18:41 | 0:18:45 | |
-The table's empty today, -but during a game... | 0:18:47 | 0:18:50 | |
-..I have all my notes -in front of me. | 0:18:50 | 0:18:53 | |
-There's a machine with numerous -leads coming out of it... | 0:18:53 | 0:18:58 | |
-..for the earphones and microphone. | 0:18:58 | 0:19:01 | |
-The same pattern can be seen -all along here. | 0:19:01 | 0:19:04 | |
-Everybody sits here -with what's known as an ISDN kit. | 0:19:04 | 0:19:08 | |
-Everybody's huddled together -on the days when there's a big game. | 0:19:08 | 0:19:13 | |
-It's dangerous if you're sitting -right at the front. | 0:19:13 | 0:19:17 | |
-All it takes is a puff of wind. | 0:19:17 | 0:19:19 | |
-I'm speaking -from personal experience here. | 0:19:19 | 0:19:23 | |
-All your notes -can be blown away by the wind. | 0:19:23 | 0:19:27 | |
-The Camp Lawn programme -has been going for ten years. | 0:19:37 | 0:19:41 | |
-I've been a part of it -since the beginning. | 0:19:41 | 0:19:44 | |
-These days, -I present it all by myself... | 0:19:44 | 0:19:48 | |
-..which means I have to know -far more about football... | 0:19:48 | 0:19:52 | |
-..than I had to before... | 0:19:52 | 0:19:54 | |
-..when Dylan Ebenezer -was at my side. | 0:19:55 | 0:19:57 | |
-"After nine consecutive games, -the crusade ended in Scotland... | 0:19:57 | 0:20:03 | |
-"..thanks to Wales's -top try scorer..." | 0:20:04 | 0:20:06 | |
-Every Saturday is different. | 0:20:06 | 0:20:09 | |
-You have to be fully prepared. | 0:20:09 | 0:20:11 | |
-You could never do a programme -unprepared. | 0:20:11 | 0:20:14 | |
-You have to be ready -for whatever happens. | 0:20:14 | 0:20:17 | |
-Once, when I was presenting -the programme... | 0:20:18 | 0:20:21 | |
-..the line went down, -causing technical difficulties. | 0:20:21 | 0:20:26 | |
-All I heard was, "Pick up the -commentary. Describe what you see." | 0:20:26 | 0:20:31 | |
-I can't say -I did a very good job of it... | 0:20:32 | 0:20:35 | |
-..but I can say that I commentated -on a Wales v England game... | 0:20:35 | 0:20:39 | |
-..even if it was -for only two minutes. | 0:20:40 | 0:20:42 | |
-Welcome to Cracabant -from the Arms Park... | 0:20:46 | 0:20:49 | |
-..a rugby ground -in the heart of a bustling city. | 0:20:49 | 0:20:52 | |
-The three Cs - -charisma, character... | 0:20:52 | 0:20:55 | |
-..and conscientiousness. | 0:20:55 | 0:20:57 | |
-Those are just some -of the many traits Eleri possesses. | 0:20:58 | 0:21:02 | |
-As someone -who has worked alongside her... | 0:21:02 | 0:21:05 | |
-..for more than a decade... | 0:21:06 | 0:21:08 | |
-..on Camp Lawn every Saturday... | 0:21:09 | 0:21:11 | |
-..I know that she's -an intelligent girl... | 0:21:11 | 0:21:14 | |
-..with a genuine interest in sport. | 0:21:14 | 0:21:17 | |
-She's also someone -who's at ease with her audience. | 0:21:17 | 0:21:22 | |
-Just imagine -having to anchor a programme... | 0:21:22 | 0:21:26 | |
-..for six hours or more -every Saturday afternoon. | 0:21:26 | 0:21:29 | |
-But she enjoys it -and that certainly comes across. | 0:21:30 | 0:21:34 | |
-If you listen to the programme... | 0:21:34 | 0:21:36 | |
-..you sense that the presenter -enjoys being there. | 0:21:36 | 0:21:40 | |
-She puts listeners at ease -and makes the programme enjoyable. | 0:21:41 | 0:21:46 | |
-At the beginning of the 1990s, -when I started covering rugby... | 0:21:50 | 0:21:56 | |
-..I think I was the first female -to do so on Radio Cymru. | 0:21:57 | 0:22:01 | |
-People often ask me... | 0:22:01 | 0:22:04 | |
-..whether I've encountered prejudice -because I'm a woman. | 0:22:04 | 0:22:09 | |
-But I have to admit, I haven't. | 0:22:09 | 0:22:11 | |
-Back in the early 1990s... | 0:22:11 | 0:22:15 | |
-..maybe I was the token woman. | 0:22:15 | 0:22:18 | |
-But nowadays, more and more women -are working in sport... | 0:22:18 | 0:22:22 | |
-..and most of them know their stuff. | 0:22:22 | 0:22:25 | |
-I used to be a workaholic. | 0:22:31 | 0:22:33 | |
-My work was my life. | 0:22:33 | 0:22:36 | |
-While the work was there -and I wanted to do it... | 0:22:36 | 0:22:40 | |
-..there was no reason not to do it. | 0:22:40 | 0:22:42 | |
-Unfortunately, -I didn't have a work-life balance. | 0:22:43 | 0:22:46 | |
-I didn't have time -to do the nice things in life... | 0:22:47 | 0:22:50 | |
-..because I always had work to do. | 0:22:50 | 0:22:53 | |
-I'm not a person who can say no. | 0:22:53 | 0:22:55 | |
-But in the past two years, -I've learnt to say no. | 0:22:56 | 0:23:01 | |
-Crikey, I was 39 years old -having a baby. That says it all! | 0:23:01 | 0:23:05 | |
-Now, I can sit back and say... | 0:23:07 | 0:23:09 | |
-..I don't need to do that any more. | 0:23:10 | 0:23:13 | |
-That's a very nice feeling. | 0:23:13 | 0:23:15 | |
-S4C Subtitles by Adnod Cyf. | 0:23:53 | 0:23:55 | |
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