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-The Amman Valley is a small valley, -eight or nine miles long. | 0:00:33 | 0:00:38 | |
-Very tightly packed in that area... | 0:00:38 | 0:00:42 | |
-..is a feeling of belonging. | 0:00:42 | 0:00:44 | |
-Belonging to each other and also -to a tradition going back centuries. | 0:00:44 | 0:00:50 | |
-For me, -Ammanford is Wales in microcosm. | 0:00:52 | 0:00:56 | |
-The industrial and rural -come together in a unique union. | 0:00:56 | 0:01:02 | |
-My love for Wales... | 0:01:03 | 0:01:05 | |
-..and for Ammanford and the -Amman Valley are one and the same. | 0:01:05 | 0:01:11 | |
-Ammanford | 0:01:12 | 0:01:14 | |
-As my mother sometimes reminded me, -I was an accident. | 0:01:20 | 0:01:23 | |
-An afternoon shift child -as it's known locally. | 0:01:23 | 0:01:27 | |
-My mother was born in England... | 0:01:28 | 0:01:31 | |
-..but returned -to her mother's village, Betws. | 0:01:31 | 0:01:36 | |
-Dad comes from Llandybie - -the other side of Ammanford. | 0:01:36 | 0:01:40 | |
-My father and mother -went to London... | 0:01:40 | 0:01:43 | |
-..because my father -turned professional as a boxer. | 0:01:43 | 0:01:46 | |
-That's where my brother Andrew -was born. | 0:01:47 | 0:01:50 | |
-They decided to raise their children -in English... | 0:01:50 | 0:01:54 | |
-..partly because -they lived in England. | 0:01:55 | 0:01:57 | |
-They also thought that English -was the language of getting on. | 0:01:57 | 0:02:01 | |
-They returned, -going back to the mine. | 0:02:01 | 0:02:05 | |
-Adrian was born. | 0:02:05 | 0:02:07 | |
-Adrian, because of the history of -the area and the strong culture... | 0:02:07 | 0:02:11 | |
-..started to explore his Welshness. | 0:02:11 | 0:02:14 | |
-He learnt Welsh... | 0:02:15 | 0:02:17 | |
-..and through that, -through osmosis almost... | 0:02:17 | 0:02:21 | |
-..I started to speak Welsh too. | 0:02:21 | 0:02:26 | |
-This is the lower school, -as I knew it. | 0:02:35 | 0:02:40 | |
-I was in the second language -Welsh class. | 0:02:41 | 0:02:44 | |
-Through effort and the encouragement -of some teachers... | 0:02:45 | 0:02:50 | |
-..I became fluent. | 0:02:50 | 0:02:51 | |
-This is where I learnt the language. | 0:02:53 | 0:02:55 | |
-Some people at the time -would have thought of me as a swot. | 0:02:59 | 0:03:03 | |
-I wore a blazer, as I'm doing now. | 0:03:03 | 0:03:07 | |
-Some things never change! | 0:03:09 | 0:03:10 | |
-I had a briefcase. | 0:03:11 | 0:03:12 | |
-I really went for it... | 0:03:14 | 0:03:16 | |
-..until I reached a certain age. | 0:03:16 | 0:03:19 | |
-Then, I wouldn't say I rebelled... | 0:03:21 | 0:03:24 | |
-..but I started to reinvent myself. | 0:03:24 | 0:03:27 | |
-Up the hill was the Gorsedd... | 0:03:28 | 0:03:31 | |
-..where I'd spend some time. | 0:03:32 | 0:03:35 | |
-Others would be smoking -and courting. | 0:03:35 | 0:03:38 | |
-I'd be reading poetry. | 0:03:38 | 0:03:40 | |
-Rather odd. | 0:03:40 | 0:03:41 | |
-But I still got into trouble. | 0:03:42 | 0:03:44 | |
-I was seen to be mitching -even though I was reading. | 0:03:45 | 0:03:48 | |
-Give me some credit. | 0:03:48 | 0:03:50 | |
-This is the mining museum... | 0:04:03 | 0:04:06 | |
-..that was largely created by former -colliers at the Miners Welfare Hall. | 0:04:06 | 0:04:12 | |
-The Welfare -was a second home for many of us... | 0:04:14 | 0:04:16 | |
-..during the miners' strike. | 0:04:17 | 0:04:19 | |
-This was the location -of the soup kitchen. | 0:04:19 | 0:04:22 | |
-The organizing work for the strike -was done here too. | 0:04:23 | 0:04:27 | |
-Working class people... | 0:04:27 | 0:04:29 | |
-..discovered they had skills -they never imagined they had. | 0:04:29 | 0:04:34 | |
-It was inspirational. | 0:04:36 | 0:04:38 | |
-The strike -was the cauldron for my politics... | 0:04:39 | 0:04:44 | |
-..and my personality -on a broader level. | 0:04:45 | 0:04:48 | |
-Through the strike, -I discovered the person I am today. | 0:04:50 | 0:04:56 | |
-Here in Ammanford... | 0:04:58 | 0:04:59 | |
-..we welcomed the Lesbian and Gays -Support the Miners group. | 0:04:59 | 0:05:04 | |
-It was the first time -I'd met gay people who were out. | 0:05:04 | 0:05:07 | |
-I don't think I was aware -of that term back then. | 0:05:08 | 0:05:11 | |
-I knew what my sexuality was... | 0:05:11 | 0:05:14 | |
-..and the fact that the miners -and the communities... | 0:05:15 | 0:05:18 | |
-..had taken to the gay community -helped me in the long run. | 0:05:18 | 0:05:23 | |
-Before the strike, -I was quite religious. | 0:05:27 | 0:05:30 | |
-I was an evangelical Christian. | 0:05:31 | 0:05:33 | |
-During the strike... | 0:05:33 | 0:05:34 | |
-..I was disappointed in the most -conservative elements of the church. | 0:05:35 | 0:05:40 | |
-The evangelicals -tended to be apolitical. | 0:05:40 | 0:05:43 | |
-I decided -it wasn't part of my gospel... | 0:05:43 | 0:05:48 | |
-..to step aside... | 0:05:49 | 0:05:51 | |
-..while an entire community -was asking for guidance. | 0:05:51 | 0:05:55 | |
-I decided to focus -on the political path. | 0:05:56 | 0:06:00 | |
-I joined Plaid Cymru. | 0:06:04 | 0:06:05 | |
-At 14 years old, -I co-founded with my family... | 0:06:06 | 0:06:09 | |
-..a Plaid Cymru branch in Ammanford. | 0:06:10 | 0:06:12 | |
-There was already a branch here... | 0:06:12 | 0:06:15 | |
-..but it was a traditional branch -of the national party. | 0:06:15 | 0:06:19 | |
-This branch... | 0:06:20 | 0:06:21 | |
-..was full of miners, -families and miners' supporters... | 0:06:21 | 0:06:26 | |
-..who were all socialists. | 0:06:26 | 0:06:28 | |
-The branch -met at the Miners Welfare Hall. | 0:06:29 | 0:06:33 | |
-I think that part of the reason... | 0:06:33 | 0:06:36 | |
-..why the party grew -in this part of Carmarthenshire... | 0:06:36 | 0:06:41 | |
-..was the fact the party -had been there during the strike. | 0:06:41 | 0:06:46 | |
-Here, in the middle of the action, -in a labour club even... | 0:06:46 | 0:06:52 | |
-..we gained respect for our stance. | 0:06:53 | 0:06:56 | |
-We're in the Ammanford Social Club. | 0:07:10 | 0:07:14 | |
-It's known in Ammanford as The Pick -- short for pick and shovel. | 0:07:14 | 0:07:20 | |
-The club was founded in 1936... | 0:07:21 | 0:07:25 | |
-..after the bus strike dispute -in West Wales. | 0:07:26 | 0:07:30 | |
-After that... | 0:07:31 | 0:07:32 | |
-..many miners -who were part of that dispute... | 0:07:32 | 0:07:38 | |
-..decided to establish -their own club. | 0:07:39 | 0:07:42 | |
-In this room, -only politics could be discussed. | 0:07:43 | 0:07:47 | |
-That was the rule. | 0:07:47 | 0:07:50 | |
-There was a green room -to play cards and so on... | 0:07:50 | 0:07:56 | |
-..and a blue room -where only politics was discussed. | 0:07:57 | 0:08:00 | |
-I remember coming in here -in the '80s... | 0:08:01 | 0:08:06 | |
-..and hearing miners and members -of the Communist Party... | 0:08:06 | 0:08:12 | |
-..discussing politics -and the miners' strike. | 0:08:12 | 0:08:16 | |
-The Morning Star -was on the tables. | 0:08:16 | 0:08:19 | |
-My heroes -were the people sat in this room. | 0:08:20 | 0:08:24 | |
-Ammanford has been -the foundation for my whole life. | 0:08:32 | 0:08:37 | |
-It sent me out into the world -with a clear idea of who I was... | 0:08:37 | 0:08:42 | |
-..and what I wanted to achieve -in life. | 0:08:43 | 0:08:47 | |
-I look around me -with mixed feelings. | 0:08:47 | 0:08:52 | |
-Pride. Yes, definitely. | 0:08:52 | 0:08:54 | |
-Hope. | 0:08:54 | 0:08:56 | |
-But also concern. | 0:08:56 | 0:08:58 | |
-Will those foundations -be there for future generations? | 0:08:58 | 0:09:03 | |
-That's the question -that keeps me awake at night. | 0:09:03 | 0:09:07 | |
-After leaving Ammanford, -I went to Cardiff University. | 0:09:15 | 0:09:19 | |
-I graduated and worked for a decade -in economic development. | 0:09:19 | 0:09:25 | |
-I then got the opportunity to stand -for the 2001 Westminster election... | 0:09:25 | 0:09:31 | |
-..and I won. | 0:09:31 | 0:09:32 | |
-I got to represent Ammanford -and the region in Parliament. | 0:09:32 | 0:09:38 | |
-Westminster | 0:09:41 | 0:09:44 | |
-There was a sense of excitement -in that period... | 0:09:44 | 0:09:47 | |
-..the late '90s -and the start of the new millennium. | 0:09:47 | 0:09:53 | |
-The city -was bubbling with positive energy. | 0:09:53 | 0:09:56 | |
-I was determined to try and keep -my public life in Westminster... | 0:10:00 | 0:10:05 | |
-..and my personal life -on different tracks. | 0:10:06 | 0:10:09 | |
-One thing about being gay... | 0:10:09 | 0:10:13 | |
-..is that you're part of a community -that exists everywhere. | 0:10:15 | 0:10:19 | |
-You have something in common -with people who live in London. | 0:10:19 | 0:10:23 | |
-You have another community... | 0:10:23 | 0:10:27 | |
-..that you can connect with. | 0:10:27 | 0:10:30 | |
-That's what I did. | 0:10:32 | 0:10:34 | |
-And then... | 0:10:35 | 0:10:36 | |
-..I formed a group of friends... | 0:10:37 | 0:10:40 | |
-..and met my partner, -who's a Londoner. | 0:10:41 | 0:10:45 | |
-I have to be grateful to London -for that! | 0:10:45 | 0:10:49 | |
-Here we are in Westminster Hall. | 0:10:59 | 0:11:02 | |
-It dates back a thousand years. | 0:11:02 | 0:11:06 | |
-In this place... | 0:11:07 | 0:11:08 | |
-..a number of statesmen -and members of the royal family... | 0:11:09 | 0:11:13 | |
-..have lain in wait -for their state funerals... | 0:11:13 | 0:11:19 | |
-..such as Winston Churchill -and the Queen Mother. | 0:11:19 | 0:11:23 | |
-We're now walking -into the modern parliament. | 0:11:38 | 0:11:43 | |
-This is the central lobby. | 0:11:43 | 0:11:45 | |
-It doesn't look modern. | 0:11:45 | 0:11:47 | |
-It's been built -in the neo-Gothic style. | 0:11:47 | 0:11:51 | |
-It's an attempt... | 0:11:51 | 0:11:53 | |
-..at copying architecture -from a thousand years ago. | 0:11:53 | 0:11:58 | |
-Through here -is the House of Commons chamber. | 0:11:58 | 0:12:04 | |
-I came here to challenge the system. | 0:12:28 | 0:12:30 | |
-Part of that was challenging some -of the rules that I found strange. | 0:12:31 | 0:12:37 | |
-One of those... | 0:12:37 | 0:12:38 | |
-..is the idea you can't speak until -you've given your maiden speech. | 0:12:39 | 0:12:44 | |
-I broke that rule. | 0:12:45 | 0:12:46 | |
-I rose to my feet and asked -a question before I gave a speech. | 0:12:46 | 0:12:51 | |
-I got a telling off from the Speaker -for doing so. | 0:12:52 | 0:12:56 | |
-Alex Salmond from the SNP told me... | 0:12:57 | 0:13:00 | |
-..that if you haven't been -thrown out from the chamber... | 0:13:01 | 0:13:04 | |
-..in the first few years... | 0:13:05 | 0:13:07 | |
-..you're not doing your job. | 0:13:07 | 0:13:09 | |
-So it became a goal of mine. | 0:13:09 | 0:13:11 | |
-I succeeded after four years. | 0:13:12 | 0:13:15 | |
-Not bad. | 0:13:15 | 0:13:17 | |
-I called Tony Blair a liar. | 0:13:17 | 0:13:20 | |
-Tomorrow is the second anniversary -of the vote on the war in Iraq. | 0:13:21 | 0:13:25 | |
-A motion of impeachment -is before us. | 0:13:26 | 0:13:28 | |
-There's compelling evidence that the -Prime Minister misled this House. | 0:13:28 | 0:13:33 | |
-Isn't it high time -we held him to account? | 0:13:33 | 0:13:35 | |
-Order. Order. The honourable -gentleman must withdraw that remark. | 0:13:36 | 0:13:40 | |
-I said, "I can't. I'm telling the -truth. He's the one telling lies." | 0:13:41 | 0:13:45 | |
-I ask the honourable gentleman -to leave the chamber. | 0:13:45 | 0:13:48 | |
-I was then barred from -the whole estate for a few days. | 0:13:49 | 0:13:54 | |
-I had to depend on staff to bring -letters out to the street and so on. | 0:13:54 | 0:14:00 | |
-It's an insight to this place... | 0:14:00 | 0:14:03 | |
-..I told the truth but I was the one -who was barred, not Tony Blair. | 0:14:03 | 0:14:09 | |
-In Aneurin Bevan's book -In Place Of Fear... | 0:14:16 | 0:14:19 | |
-..he talks about -the architecture of this place... | 0:14:19 | 0:14:23 | |
-..and how it's designed... | 0:14:23 | 0:14:27 | |
-..to put the working class MP... | 0:14:27 | 0:14:32 | |
-..from somewhere like the -South Wales Valleys back in his box. | 0:14:32 | 0:14:36 | |
-We have nothing like this at home. | 0:14:38 | 0:14:41 | |
-It's a kind of cathedral -rather than a parliament. | 0:14:41 | 0:14:45 | |
-It's majestic... | 0:14:46 | 0:14:48 | |
-..for the same reason -that cathedrals are grand... | 0:14:48 | 0:14:53 | |
-..in order to make you feel small. | 0:14:53 | 0:14:56 | |
-By making you feel small, -it silences you. | 0:14:56 | 0:15:01 | |
-It makes you censor yourself. | 0:15:02 | 0:15:04 | |
-It makes you change -the way you speak... | 0:15:04 | 0:15:07 | |
-..even the way you walk - -I've seen that from a few MPs. | 0:15:07 | 0:15:11 | |
-But most of all, -it changes the way you think. | 0:15:12 | 0:15:15 | |
-I wasn't prepared to do that -while I was here. | 0:15:15 | 0:15:19 | |
-But after nine years, -I was ready to come home. | 0:15:19 | 0:15:22 | |
-Looking back -at my nine years here... | 0:15:30 | 0:15:35 | |
-..there were frustrations. | 0:15:35 | 0:15:38 | |
-The feeling -that the British establishment... | 0:15:39 | 0:15:43 | |
-..epitomized in that building... | 0:15:43 | 0:15:46 | |
-..did everything it could to prevent -me from representing the people. | 0:15:46 | 0:15:51 | |
-But at the end of the day, it was -an excellent learning experience. | 0:15:51 | 0:15:56 | |
-You won't get any better -in the world. | 0:15:56 | 0:15:58 | |
-If you want to be -a spokesman or a politician... | 0:15:59 | 0:16:02 | |
-..what better canvas, -what better stage... | 0:16:02 | 0:16:07 | |
-..than that parliament? | 0:16:07 | 0:16:09 | |
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-After nine years in Parliament, -I went to Cambridge, Boston... | 0:16:24 | 0:16:28 | |
-..to the School of Government -at Harvard University... | 0:16:28 | 0:16:32 | |
-..to rediscover the fire in my belly -and the belief in politics... | 0:16:32 | 0:16:38 | |
-..that had been ignited -in Ammanford. | 0:16:39 | 0:16:42 | |
-Everything changed -and I felt exhilarated. | 0:16:45 | 0:16:50 | |
-It was a clean slate. | 0:16:50 | 0:16:53 | |
-The course I did was Mid-career -Master in Public Administration. | 0:16:53 | 0:16:59 | |
-It was full of people -in their thirties and forties. | 0:16:59 | 0:17:02 | |
-Ex-bankers, politicians -and soldiers. | 0:17:03 | 0:17:08 | |
-Lots of people -at the end of a chapter... | 0:17:08 | 0:17:11 | |
-..and trying to decide -what the next one should be. | 0:17:11 | 0:17:15 | |
-On January 28, 1838, -28-year-old Abraham Lincoln... | 0:17:15 | 0:17:18 | |
-..spoke to the Young Men's Lyceum -in Springfield, Illinois. | 0:17:19 | 0:17:23 | |
-He spoke about citizenship. | 0:17:23 | 0:17:25 | |
-Tonight, -I'll speak about citizenship. | 0:17:25 | 0:17:28 | |
-The comparison between the two of us -ends there. | 0:17:28 | 0:17:31 | |
-No-one turns down an invitation -to speak at Harvard. | 0:17:32 | 0:17:36 | |
-Heads of state have spoken here... | 0:17:37 | 0:17:42 | |
-..as have -many Nobel Peace Prize winners. | 0:17:42 | 0:17:48 | |
-It's an amazing experience... | 0:17:48 | 0:17:50 | |
-..to be so close to the people who -are writing the history of our time. | 0:17:51 | 0:17:56 | |
-Our enemy is not opposition. | 0:17:56 | 0:17:59 | |
-I don't ever have anybody say, -"Bad idea! We shouldn't do that." | 0:17:59 | 0:18:03 | |
-What we're facing is inertia. -Our opponent is do nothing. | 0:18:04 | 0:18:08 | |
-You're surrounded... | 0:18:10 | 0:18:11 | |
-..by some of the most intelligent -and interesting people in the world. | 0:18:12 | 0:18:17 | |
-Many of the new ideas -that everyone will read about... | 0:18:17 | 0:18:21 | |
-..in The Guardian, in The -New York Times, in every paper... | 0:18:22 | 0:18:26 | |
-..will come from here, -a few feet from where I'm standing. | 0:18:26 | 0:18:31 | |
-Ideas in all fields. | 0:18:31 | 0:18:32 | |
-You meet these people -while having a Chinese... | 0:18:33 | 0:18:37 | |
-..you go for a pint with them or you -get to know them through a friend. | 0:18:38 | 0:18:43 | |
-This place -drowns under the weight of ideas... | 0:18:43 | 0:18:46 | |
-..and the interesting discussions. | 0:18:46 | 0:18:49 | |
-These discussions can go on until -the early hours, which is great too. | 0:18:49 | 0:18:54 | |
-The other side of the river, -in Boston, is the Business School. | 0:19:07 | 0:19:11 | |
-Here's where the future leaders, -certainly in the private sector... | 0:19:13 | 0:19:17 | |
-..are educated in America. | 0:19:17 | 0:19:20 | |
-As an MP, one of the negatives... | 0:19:24 | 0:19:26 | |
-..is that it engenders the feeling -that you're special. | 0:19:27 | 0:19:32 | |
-Here, you can't depend on that. | 0:19:32 | 0:19:35 | |
-It's down to -the depth of your mind... | 0:19:36 | 0:19:39 | |
-..the originality of your ideas... | 0:19:39 | 0:19:42 | |
-..and your ability to -prove your point and communicate it. | 0:19:42 | 0:19:47 | |
-Your CV, letters after your name -or your business card... | 0:19:47 | 0:19:52 | |
-..mean nothing in a place like this. | 0:19:52 | 0:19:55 | |
-We're in the Harvard Coop Bookstore, -which is owned by the students. | 0:20:12 | 0:20:17 | |
-It's one of the cornerstones -of Harvard University. | 0:20:18 | 0:20:22 | |
-To some extent, it sums up -the spirit of the place. | 0:20:23 | 0:20:27 | |
-It's something I really treasure. | 0:20:30 | 0:20:32 | |
-I was able to have the time... | 0:20:33 | 0:20:34 | |
-..to browse the books, -step aside and think. | 0:20:35 | 0:20:38 | |
-Through thinking, -I reinvented myself. | 0:20:38 | 0:20:41 | |
-This is the central part -of the university. | 0:20:54 | 0:20:57 | |
-Here's where, -around six years ago... | 0:21:00 | 0:21:03 | |
-..I had the honour and privilege -of being one of the speakers... | 0:21:04 | 0:21:09 | |
-..at Commencement Day - the end of -one period and the start of another. | 0:21:09 | 0:21:15 | |
-I was proud -to represent the Kennedy School... | 0:21:15 | 0:21:18 | |
-..and, more than that, -to represent Wales. | 0:21:18 | 0:21:21 | |
-I was determined, with 36,000 people -sat in the yard here... | 0:21:21 | 0:21:25 | |
-..many of them becoming important -and influential in the future... | 0:21:25 | 0:21:30 | |
-..not only in the USA -but across the world... | 0:21:31 | 0:21:33 | |
-..that I wanted to put Wales -on the map. | 0:21:34 | 0:21:36 | |
-Lined up on the opposite banks -of the Charles River... | 0:21:36 | 0:21:40 | |
-..were hundreds -of my Welsh ancestors... | 0:21:40 | 0:21:43 | |
-..The Royal Welch Fusiliers... | 0:21:44 | 0:21:46 | |
-..fighting for the British Army -against the American revolution. | 0:21:46 | 0:21:51 | |
-So I guess I'm here to apologize -really. | 0:21:55 | 0:21:58 | |
-You seem to have made a success -of this independence thing. | 0:22:01 | 0:22:05 | |
-Well done, -and thanks for leaving us Canada. | 0:22:06 | 0:22:09 | |
-The message I decided to focus on... | 0:22:11 | 0:22:17 | |
-..was the need -to go out into the world... | 0:22:17 | 0:22:20 | |
-..and not to lose -your unique message. | 0:22:21 | 0:22:25 | |
-Don't settle for reinforcing -other people's ideas. | 0:22:26 | 0:22:29 | |
-Find your unique voice and -be a radical, a bit of a rebel, too. | 0:22:30 | 0:22:34 | |
-The world needs less of the same. | 0:22:35 | 0:22:38 | |
-It needs us to work together -and think for ourselves. | 0:22:38 | 0:22:42 | |
-It needs the commonwealth of us -and the republic of you. | 0:22:42 | 0:22:45 | |
-Together, let's make today -our independence day... | 0:22:46 | 0:22:51 | |
-..and in our liberty, -strive to serve the common good. | 0:22:52 | 0:22:56 | |
-I don't think I'd have returned -to politics in Wales... | 0:23:14 | 0:23:17 | |
-..if it wasn't for this place. | 0:23:17 | 0:23:19 | |
-Sometimes, you have to travel far -to go back. | 0:23:20 | 0:23:24 | |
-The challenge for me now... | 0:23:25 | 0:23:28 | |
-..is to transfer the faith and -the inspiration that I got here... | 0:23:28 | 0:23:34 | |
-..to Cardiff Bay -as a member of the Senedd. | 0:23:34 | 0:23:39 | |
-S4C Subtitles by Testun Cyf. | 0:23:54 | 0:23:56 | |
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