Derby 5 Bargain Hunt

Aye, aye! But will our teams have the vision

to make a profit?

Let's find out as we go bargain hunting.

Derby University would not be the first place you'd think of coming to

to find an antique fair

but actually, it's like one vast interactive history lesson.

Our teams today have a lesson which lasts for an hour,

during which time they have to find three items with their £300

here at the Jaguar Antiques Fair.

'On today's show...'

-Look into these eyes.

-All right.

'..there are hypnotised dealers.'

-And what's your best price?

-35. Works every time, you see.

-'Straight-talking sellers.'

-What can you tell us about it?

-It's a clock.

-Yeah!

'And a desperate auctioneer.'

-One more!

-One more bid, please.

-Do you hear that?

-£2 more!

-Just £2!

-Go on. One more.

'But first let's meet the teams.'

So it's the girls versus the boys today.

We've got Becky and Suzy versus Dan and James.

-Welcome, teams.

-Hello.

-Very nice to be here.

-Hello.

Hiya. Now... Becky. What exactly do you do, darling?

I work here at the University of Derby.

-Lovely. And what do you do here?

-I work in the quality department

for the faculty of art, design and technology.

-What sort of antiques do you like, Becks?

-I inherited some crockery from my aunt when she moved to Canada,

which is an Island Worcester sunflower set,

which I think is made in Jamaica but I really like it.

It's old and very worn but I use it a lot, you know.

Yes. And how do you know Suzy?

We both started here at the university at the same time

thrown in at the deep end.

-So you work together?

-We do.

-Suzy, is Becky a good work mate?

Very good, yeah. We get on really well.

We pretty much share a desk together, so we have to work well together

and she's my senior, so she can kind of tell me what to do.

So are you going to be a winning team?

-Definitely.

-We're definitely a winning team.

-We've got really good taste.

-Good.

That's that sorted out. Now, boys.

Dan, it's no coincidence that you like a bit of salt and pepper, is it?

No, I collect salt and pepper pots as my pastime.

It started from my mother, so carrying that collection on.

But you did have a scare once at auction, didn't you, Dan?

Yeah, my boss sent me to a property and land auction

and the... I accidentally bid on a piece of land worth 320,000.

-Did you buy it?

-Fortunately not, no.

Someone outbid me at the back of the room, so...

-Phew! That was a relief.

-Big relief.

-Yeah.

James, we don't want any mistakes like that. Can you really trust your team-mate?

Er, I think so.

I think with the help of the specialist and my knowledge

and Dan's salt and pepper pot knowledge, I think we'll get through.

-Do you collect anything?

-Erm, not so much myself.

My Dad, he's got quite a large collection of agricultural tools.

He was brought up on a farm, so ranging from tractors

down to smaller things like woodworking planes.

I would advise on Bargain Hunt that you resist buying a tractor.

Anyway, this is the money moment. £300 apiece. Here's your £300.

You know the rules, your experts await and off you go

and very, very, very good luck.

So while the girls and boys go out to play,

let's meet their experts who'll be tutoring them.

Swotting it up for the reds it's Kate Bliss

and at the front of the class for the blues, it's David Harper.

That's Sir to you.

And they'll need to be top of the class,

as they have four teams to help today.

Right, boys, have you any idea what to expect here or what?

-Er, no!

-LAUGHTER

-Right, we're going.

-Go!

Both teams have a maximum of one hour to shop

and with something catching Kate's eye,

she's wasting no time in taking her team straight to it.

It is pottery as opposed to porcelain, of course.

It's got quite a weight to it.

And you've got this quite unusual white metal overlay on it.

Now, as soon as I saw it, I thought Iznik pottery, very Eastern,

but this in fact could be a later copy, perhaps Moroccan.

-I can see that doing 80 to 120.

-OK.

-Maybe on a good day even 150.

-What do you think then, girls?

-I like it. It's different.

-Yeah.

I can see it in someone's house,

it could be a modern house or some people that like antiques.

-OK, let's find out how much it is.

-OK.

-Excuse me, sir?

-Yeah?

-How much is your charger here?

-Well, I've got 95 on it at the moment.

-OK.

-But I can do a little bit.

-Mm. What's your best?

Could you do, say, 70 for us?

Er, it's a little bit low. 75?

-75, what do you think, girls?

-75 sounds good to me.

-Yeah.

-Thank you very much.

-No problem.

-All right.

-Brilliant.

-Thank you.

-Yes?

-Perfect.

Crikey, Kate, at this rate, you'll have finished your shopping before lunch.

It looks like the blues are doing a bit more browsing first.

-Well, that's lovely, isn't it? A typical George II design.

-Mm-hm?

Of course, it's popular today.

You can buy things that look like this brand new today.

But with silver, we know from its markings,

and from your very professionally labelled ticket here,

"Mustard pot, Sheffield, 1899."

-The ticket price is £85.

-85.

I'll do that at 70.

£70?

We can't get you down to 65? Just to give us a bit of luck?

-Go on, then.

-Good man.

-Thank you very much.

-Thanks a lot.

-OK.

-Thank you.

-Thank you.

20 minutes gone and the blues have finally caught up with the reds.

One item each.

-Oh, isn't it lovely?

-For the horsy set.

-Yes.

People love, there's a huge market, for horse-related items.

Studded with a little diamond here

and then you've got diamonds and black enamel here.

-I'm not sold on that, to be honest.

-No, I'm not.

-These girls! Fussy.

-Very picky.

-What do you like, then?

-I prefer that pearl necklace.

-You prefer that pendant?

-That's not good, I take it?

-No, well it is, it's lovely.

It's got a lovely little cultured pearl, there,

-a really nice, white creamy one.

-Mm.

And then you've got sapphires all the way round the outside.

Do you think that would sell well?

Well, it has got quite a contemporary look about it,

which a lot of people like.

-Pendants are very commercial...

-Yeah.

-..as a piece of jewellery.

What's the price, madam? What can you do for us on that?

I've got 90 on it, I can do 60 as an absolute rock bottom

-Yeah, that sounds good.

-I'd definitely go for that.

-Thank you.

-Lovely. Thank you very much.

I just noticed this item here.

And what is that, then, boys? What do you think it is?

It's certainly interesting.

Yeah, it looks like a prisoner of war piece of art, doesn't it?

-Yeah.

-Yeah.

-So it's tools in a bottle.

-As opposed to like a ship.

As opposed to a ship or a message in a bottle.

It's the kind of thing that prisoners of war during the First World War, '14 to '18,

erm, would, you know, create to pass the time.

-Does it do anything for you?

-I think it's...

It's something really different, isn't it? I've never seen anything like this before.

-I'd definitely be interested.

-What about you, Dan?

-It'd catch a few eyes at the auction.

It would, it would. Well, here's the chap.

Dan, I'm going to give you the bottle.

Look at that man and ask him what the absolute death is on that bottle.

A straight 40 would be the best.

-40.

-It's a good price already, so...

-Yeah, yeah.

Look into these eyes. Are you ready? I'm going to do it now.

-What's the best price?

-35.

LAUGHTER Works every time, you see.

I'm not sure hypnosis is allowed under the Bargain Hunt rules, David.

I'll have to look that one up.

Both teams now have one last item to find

and with just ten minutes left, it's decision time.

-So what do you like, Suzy?

-Erm, I'm quite drawn to these little bowls.

-And I do like that one as well.

-That one there?

-Yeah.

-That's a bit different.

-It is a bit different, actually.

The decoration's a lot more sparse on this one.

This is actually really interesting.

What you've got here is a French-style decoration on English Worcester

and just to confuse you, you've got a mark on the back

which isn't the Worcester mark,

it's actually the French factory called Chantilly.

So the fact that they're pretending to be French,

that won't put anything against it?

Not at all. That's quite a good selling point because it's unusual.

OK.

Typically, little Worcester saucers like this at auction

would fetch anything from 40, I suppose, for a very common one,

up to 60, 70, maybe £80, for something unusual.

So I think it depends what price the stallholder can do for us.

'While the girls think about the plate, the boys may have found their last item.'

It's from the RAF No. 40 Squadron from Gosport in Hampshire.

So that's interesting. And what's the scene here?

It's got what looks like a Krakatoa or something, a volcano going off.

Yes.

So it's obviously foreign lands, a lake,

but there's the squadron insignia. Now, that makes it interesting.

As an ordinary cigarette box, it's not very interesting

but because it's Second World War, RAF, then it IS interesting.

35 quid if you want it.

-What do you think?

-25?

-You want it for nowt? 35 quid.

-35.

He's hard work, this one, I assure you.

-Can you meet us halfway at 30?

-Yes.

-Yes?

-Please.

-Good man.

-OK. Are you happy, boys?

-Thank you.

-Yeah?

-OK.

-Thank you.

-Good luck with it.

-Thank you.

Yeah, good luck with it. Right, brilliant, we are done.

'They're finished but the reds only have a few minutes left.'

These saucers and tea bowls, would they do well?

-I quite like the fact that they've got a set.

-They would do well.

That's a nice one, with the birds in branches.

-I'd estimate that at 80 to 120 in my auction house.

-OK.

So which one do you think would go better at auction, sir?

Erm, I think probably the Chantilly piece is the better auction piece,

with it being more unusual.

So what sort of price can you do for us?

The best price I can do on that one is 70.

I think we should go for it.

-Take a risk with that one.

-I really do like it.

-It's not going to make you a flying profit but it might make you a little bit.

-OK.

-OK.

-Yeah?

-Scary! Yeah.

-OK.

No time for lunch, after all.

With all the items in the bag and the whole hour used up,

let's remind ourselves what the reds bought.

Kate Bliss nabbed this Iznik-style charger for £75.

Then the girls took their time over the bling,

settling on this 1940s pendant.

And an 18th century Worcester saucer made it into the bag

in the dying minutes.

Now, girls, you are very cool, calm and collected, aren't you?

-Yes.

-Yes.

-In your posh, quality shopping.

-Mm.

-Was it good fun?

-It was loads of fun, yes.

-Which is your favourite piece, Becks?

-It would be the big charger plate.

-Suzy, your favourite?

-The Worcester dish.

-Oh, very posh, that.

-Mm-hm.

-Which piece is going to bring the biggest profit?

-The charger plate.

-Yeah, I agree.

-You had to agree with that?

-Yeah.

-Had to agree with the boss.

-Mm.

-But she's not my boss.

-I'm not!

-OK, fine.

£205, you spent, which is quite magnificent.

-And that gives me £95 of leftover lolly going to Kate Bliss.

-Thank you.

-What are you going to do with the 95, sweetie?

-I don't know.

I just know that it's got to be quite classy, really, for those two.

Quite. Classy and quality, that's what they are.

Writ all over them.

Now, let's remind ourselves what the blues bought.

The salt and pepper blues couldn't resist a good condiment,

so they bought this silver mustard pot.

This unusual tools in a bottle one-off caught the lads' attention

for £35.

And it may shove the fags at you, but will it shove them a profit?

This RAF cigarette box could ignite the saleroom at £30.

Well, you boys were certainly attracted to the unusual, weren't you?

-That's correct.

-Absolutely.

So tell me, James, which is your favourite item?

I think it's got to be the tool in a bottle. It's certainly different.

Tool in a bottle. OK, fine.

And what about yours, Dan?

I like the silver mustard pot that we bought.

-That's definitely a nice piece.

-He goes for the condiments.

-What's your prediction as to which piece will bring the biggest profit?

-The tool in a bottle.

-OK, do you agree with that?

-I'd agree with that.

-Very sensible.

You spent £130, which is pas mal,

and I'll have £170 of leftover lolly for David for the bonus buy.

-Thank you.

-What have you got in mind to spend all that cash on?

A few things in mind. Again, something out of the ordinary

because what we've been doing is buying unusual items,

so another unusual item is called for.

Well, you're the past master at the unusual and the unexpected...

-Thank you.

-..so good luck with that.

Well, it's grand to be on the outskirts of Derby

at Bamfords saleroom with James Lewis.

-James.

-Great to have you.

-Very nice to be here.

Now, your first job is to tell us what you think

about this socking great metal overlaid bowl.

-Mm.

-Is it good?

-Yeah, I think it's got a good interior designer's look.

You can imagine it in homes and antiques magazine or something like that,

-No, it's a good looking thing. How old do you think it is?

-Not very old.

Mid-20th century, I should think.

-So, how much?

-Erm, £40-60.

-Cos they paid £75.

Where do you think we stand with this?

-You'd be lucky if you get £50?

-40 to 60.

-He really means 40 to 60.

-I think it's worth 40 to 60.

-OK, fine. Next is the little pendant.

-Yeah.

Apparently, tiny chips of sapphire and a pearl.

Erm, how's that going to go?

It's pretty,

it's the sort of thing that a private little lady might go for.

-Not a big lady?

-No, it's a little necklace.

-Oh, I see, yes.

-£40-£60, I think.

-OK, they paid £60.

-OK.

-So they'll be lucky if they make a profit on that.

-Yeah.

What about this saucer dish, this Worcester saucer dish?

I hadn't got a clue, I have to say.

I had to ask Annabel in our ceramics department

and she said, "It's clearly Worcester, it's got the Chantilly fake mark

And she says it's worth £40-50.

-They paid 70.

-Ooh!

-So there's some difficulty, I would see, here...

-Yeah.

-..in making a splendido profit,

in which case they're going to need their bonus buy, so let's have a look.

Here we go.

In my hot little hand...

-Now, I know you girls like your jewellery.

-Yes, we do.

-So I have bought you...

-Ah!

-Those look a little bit familiar.

-Yes, we did look at these.

-We did.

-We did.

They are pearl cluster earrings in gold, 18 carat,

and with these little pearls set in, very much in the Victorian style.

The Victorians loved their pearls.

But these are modern, which for some people makes them more desirable.

Some women don't like to buy period jewellery or jewellery that's been worn,

-How much did you get them for?

-£60.

-£60.

-What do you think they'll make?

Well, I think that they have a chance of making a small profit.

I'm not saying they're going to absolutely fly away but they could make a small one.

-OK.

-So...

-We'll have a think.

-Why don't you like them, Suze?

-I do like them

but I just... I don't know.

-You wouldn't buy them for yourself.

-I wouldn't.

-Right.

And I know that they're modern and I like a bit more older...

-You like a bit of age.

-I do.

-Quite right, too.

-I do.

-You hold that thought, girls,

but let's find out what the auctioneer thinks about the earrings.

What do you think they're worth, these?

-Around £30-50.

-Do you?

-Something like that.

They're pretty but they are brand, spanking new.

Kate paid 60, so she may well be lucky to get a profit on that.

-Kate's probably better than I am, so we'll see.

-We'll see.

Well, what happens happens, doesn't it, frankly?

That's it for the reds. Now for the blues.

And first up for Dan and James is the mustard pot.

Yep, a standard thing, a standard model.

It would've been in a little leather-covered box

with a pepperette and an open salt.

You can get a Georgian one for £80,

so for a reproduction style, Georgian style,

-I'm going to say 30 to 40.

-Which is quite generous.

-£65 was paid.

-Ooh, blimey, that's a lot.

-So that's cantering on, isn't it?

-Yes, it is.

Yes, next, James, is the ship in the bottle,

except it's not a ship, it's some weird collection of wooden tools.

I've never, ever seen anything quite like it. It's really odd.

-I'd much rather have a ship...

-So would I.

-..than that heap of woodwork in there.

-I can't imagine many people wanting it.

-No.

-What's your estimate?

-£15-25.

-£35 paid.

-Oh. Loss, I think.

-Yes, loss on that.

-Yeah.

-Now, the World War 2 cigarette box.

-Yeah.

Little marquetry box. Just happens to have 40 Squadron on it,

which is nice because it pitches it at the RAF quite neatly

-and people do collect RAF-related memorabilia, don't they?

-They do.

It's a strange box, I think,

because it's got sample wood, it's almost like olive wood,

Yes. I mean, you feel it's been foreign made.

-Yeah.

-Far East.

-Japanese, something like that.

-Yes.

It's quite a nice little box

but I don't know how you feel about the value, here?

Oh, I should think £20-£30.

-£20-£30.

-Yeah.

-Brilliant.

They paid £30, so they might just get close enough.

But overall, there's some problems here

and they're going to need their bonus buy, so let's have a look at it.

-Gosh.

-Have you any idea what that might be?

I've got no idea what that is.

Well, it's a cup, a late 19th century,

Chinese famille rose - that's the decoration - cup.

We've got painted on the outside a group of immortals.

We have an immortal figure on the inside

and it would be used to drink rice wine.

But there's something else going on here.

If you look inside, there's a hole, a cheeky little hole.

So it's a Chinese joke cup.

So I would welcome you to my home, I'd give you this cup,

ask if you'd like some rice wine.

I'd pour you some rice wine and you'd take a sip and the rice wine will pour down you.

So what a great trick. Wouldn't you want to do that?

-I always do that to my mates.

-LAUGHTER

-How much did you pay for it?

-Well, I had 170 left.

-I spent the 70.

-OK.

So, James, what do you think about this joke pot?

It's certainly unusual. I've never seen anything like it before.

Well, it's certainly very unusual, David, and full marks for that.

Hold the thought. Let's find out whether the auctioneer gets the joke.

James, you've got a great sense of humour. Tell me where the joke is in this joke cup.

Other than having a funny little Chinaman sitting in your cup...

-In your sake.

-He's got a hole under his skirt, hasn't he?

-Yes.

-And a hole there.

-And a hole in the bottom.

-Funny little fellow, isn't he?

-He is.

-But quite amusing.

I just don't see where the joke is.

If you fill it and it lets out fluid all over your friend's kimono,

I suppose that's a huge Oriental joke.

I can imagine that would be slightly amusing.

But that's the top and bottom of it.

And what do you think it would make in the auction?

-£30-40?

-You must be joking?

-No!

-He paid 70.

-Oh - that's the joke.

That's the joke!

Very good, Lewis.

-Now, Becks and Suze, this is exciting, isn't it?

-Very exciting.

-You really want to win today, don't you?

-Yes.

-Really want to win.

You want to beat those boys into the ground.

Anyway, first lot up is Iznik bowl and here it comes.

There we are. Great lot.

Good interior decorator's piece, a pewter overlay with it

and I can start the bidding at £45 and 50, now.

50 standing, sir. Five. 60.

Five, 70, five.

80 beats it. At £80. Has anyone five now?

At £80. It's a nice lot, this one.

-At 80...

-£80. That's brilliant. £5 profit, straight up.

Lot number 701, the 1940s pendant with the cultured pearl

surrounded by little pretty sapphires

and £42 is the underbid and so £45 starts it.

At 45. 48, now.

48, 50.

And five now. At £50.

-Do I see five?

-Come on, come on.

-55.

-Yes!

-60.

Five? It's against you.

At 60. 65 anywhere?

At 60. With me at £60...

-Oh!

-Wiped its face.

-Yeah.

-£60.

-Not bad.

-No profit, no loss.

-We've got ourselves a fiver.

Lot number 702 is the 18th century Worcester saucer.

I have one bid at £40 and one higher, so 45. 50 anywhere?

50 do I see? At £45. And 50, now.

At 45, 50 anywhere?

At 45...

-Ow!

-£45.

-Ouch.

That's five off 50, that's minus 25, so overall, you're minus 20.

You are minus £20. The big question is, the bonus buy, the earrings.

Are you going to go with the bonus buy or not?

I think we should.

-You're going with the bonus buy.

-Are you sure?

They're going with the bonus buy.

At 32, 35 now.

At £32. And five.

35, anywhere? At 32.

35, 38. And 40 anywhere?

-40 by the door. 42?

-Come on, come on.

45.

48. And 50.

And two. 55.

58.

Now, at £58. It's against you.

At £58. 60, anywhere?

-One more!

-One more bid, please.

-Do you hear that?

-£2 more!

-Just £2!

-60, go on.

One more. No?

-Blank expression.

-Oh!

I know, I'm sorry.

-Go on. They think you're mean.

-LAUGHTER

-You have agreement.

-CHEERING

There we are. At £58. Are you sure? Are we all done?

£58. You're minus £2 on that, which means overall you're minus 22.

But seriously, minus £22 could be a winning score

cos they may not do so brilliantly, those boys,

-so you could still be winning with minus £22, so don't tell them anything.

-We won't.

-Don't say a word.

-Poker face. Poker face.

-Yes.

-Poker face.

So, chaps, have you been chatting to those red chicks?

-No?

-No.

-You've not been talking about the score? We won't go into scoring with the girls,

that's not going to be a healthy development.

Anyway, first up, then, is your mustard pot, and here it comes.

Lot 725, the mustard.

And I can start the bidding here at £25.

At 25, the silver mustard. 30, sir.

35, 40.

At £40. Any advance?

At 40...

-Oh!

-£40 only, that's minus £25.

-Not so brilliant, that.

-Now...

-Not good.

Lot 726, is the World War, tools in a bottle.

There we are. And I can start the bidding at £18.

20 starts it, 22 now.

22? At 20. And two.

22 in the third row. 25.

28. And 30. 32?

-35 and 38 for you.

-Yes!

-It's going.

-38 in the third row.

40 do I see? At £38 here and 40, now.

Any advance? At 38...

-Plus £3.

-Whoo-hoo!

Which means you are only minus £22. Everything to go for, boys.

727 is the World War Two,

rectangular walnut and olive wood cigarette box.

Nicely inlaid on the top and I can start the bidding here at £18.

At 18 and 20. 20 do I see?

-At £18.

-It's worth more than that.

-20.

Two, 25. 28 in the red?

-28 and 30? 32.

-Yes!

-It's worth it.

-Come on, look at this.

-Go on.

31, then. Thank you. 31.

32! 32. 33.

-People want it.

-33 standing. 34.

35. 36.

38. And 40.

39, then.

-Go on, one more.

-Go on!

At £38 in the white.

At 38. 39?

-Whoo!

-40, 42.

-Yes!

-He's smashing it now.

42, yes? 42.

45. 45 for you?

Do you want 43, then?

-Yes?

-He's squeezing them.

-No. At £42, that was definite.

At 42. Any advance?

At £42. Are we all sure?

Well done. We're plus £12 on that,

which means overall, you are minus £10.

-Minus £10.

-Wow.

-This is so exciting, isn't it?

Now, what are you going to do? Are you going to go with the joke cup for £70 or bank your £10.

-We'll go with it.

-You're going with it?

-They're going with the bonus buy! Are you happy with that, Dan?

-Yeah.

-OK, here it comes.

-Oh, no!

Lot number 731. The famille rose joke cup.

This is a fun little thing with a little Chinaman

sitting in the centre.

If you think that's fun, let's have a go at £30.

30 anywhere? Give it to somebody you don't like.

£30, 35, £40.

45, 50, five. 60.

Five. 62? At 60.

-62 do I see?

-Come on!

At £60. And two, now. Are we all done? At 60...

-Bad luck, David.

-It could've been worse.

-It could.

-It could've been a lot worse.

That was an amazing last-minute decision, there.

I was certain you weren't going with it, then you did go with it.

-Doubled our loss.

-You got in there.

Anyway, overall, then... Bad luck. You're minus £10 on that.

Overall you're minus 20.

-I do not want you to talk to the reds, all right?

-OK.

Go out looking very miserable.

Well, it doesn't get much closer than that.

The Reds pipped at the post by just £2.

Coming up,

two more teams are on the hunt for bargains.

But first, I'm off to somewhere absolutely spiffing.

Actually, 120 miles down the M1 from Derby to Hatfield House.

The original Hatfield Palace was built around 1485

by John Morton, Bishop of Ely.

Then in 1607,

the first Earl of Salisbury started to build Hatfield House.

To this day, their descendants use it as a family home.

All families have some colourful characters

and Hatfield is no exception.

It was one of these family members, the first Marchioness of Salisbury,

who left a great impression on the place.

The first marquis married Emily Mary Hill,

who was described as domineering, striking

and somewhat eccentric.

She would, indeed, distribute golden coins

from a velvet purse that she carried

and literally throw them at the poor.

She gambled deep into the night

and was riding to hounds even in her eighties.

She also had the rare distinction

of burning down the west wing here at Hatfield,

which apparently happened in 1835, when she was 85,

when her vast, tall coiffure caught alight on a stray candle

and she burnt the west wing down.

This set of 14 dining chairs is a further reminder

of the first Marchioness.

If you go to pick them up, you find that they're incredibly heavy.

That's because they're made of a Chinese hardwood

called hua huang li.

But there's something curious about the dating.

Because on the back of this chair,

it says in an oval reserve,

"EMS", which are the First Marchioness's initials.

And it says T. LeBlanc LLD.

And Mr LeBlanc apparently was a lawyer and neighbour

and he presented these chairs to Lady Salisbury,

as it says here, in 1819.

So he has presented to the first Marchioness this set of chairs

but if you look at the style of the chair,

with this pierced splat back,

these incredibly old-fashioned cabriole legs,

the style of the chair is more like 1740.

So it's a mystery.

There's another mystery to solve, of course, today

and that is exactly how much profit are our teams going to make?

Back at Derby University, two more sets of Reds and Blues

are about to take our experts to task.

Today, we have the amazing Red duo of mother and son, with Andrew and Hillary.

Welcome. And for the Blues good friends, Lydia and Marley.

Welcome. Now, you two as a mother and son combo are going to be the most amazing team?

-I hope so.

-Definitely.

Yes! It says here that Andrew is going to be very good for bargaining

and Hillary is going to be good at ensuring a profit.

-I hope so.

-Yes.

You ought to be all right at this, Hillary.

Yes, I am an accountant, so I do know how profits, in theory, are calculated.

Whether we'll be so lucky today I don't know, but I hope so.

-And in your spare time you like to go tap dancing?

-Indeed, I do.

-Have you got your tap shoes?

-I didn't bring them, sorry.

-Bring them to the auction, that would be fun.

-If you would like me to, OK.

-Andrew, you're a great fan of dancing too.

-I am, but no particular form.

-I just bust loose.

-Oh, do you?

-Oh, yes.

-But you are musical, aren't you?

-I'm the lead guitarist of a band.

What's the name?

-It's The Backfire Effect.

-I love the name.

No, we don't!

And what do you do when you're not getting your groove in?

I'm a student at Northampton University.

I was going to be a computer games designer, but then after a year, as Mum would say,

bit of an epiphany, I said, "I want to be a primary school teacher."

-So, off I went to Northampton and here I am.

-I think you're going to do very well today.

How do you two know each other?

I met Marley in a club.

We were a little bit drunk and dancing to Stevie Wonder.

After that, I go to a lot of car boot sales

and Marley had never been, so I took him. Now we're boot buddies.

Boot buddies, that sounds such fun.

-You're both students?

-Yes.

And what are you studying, Lydia?

I did my degree in fashion and I'm now studying at Derby University to do my teaching qualification.

You want to start your own fashion business?

Yeah, and I've got a little present for you.

Great! What's in your box?

-It is... I don't believe this! Look!

-A rollable Panama hat. I'll put this on the floor.

You knew this was going to be my favourite!

Oh, I knew. We've seen you in your hat.

Lydia, tell me about these, because they're very special.

It's a Fair Trade rollable Panama and it's a leno weave

and this one is a more circular weave, so it's more durable.

So, you've brought me something really fab, which I shall wear a lot, yes.

Now, Marley, what are you studying, mate?

I'm studying cultural studies and music here at Derby Uni, as well.

What do you intend doing when you finish?

I think I'm going to go on to do a PGCE and do primary school music teaching.

It was an epiphany, like yours, that I wanted to do that.

-Anyway, we've got most interesting teams today, but here comes the money moment.

-£300 apiece.

-Thank you.

-You know the rules, your experts await and off you go.

Hang on, I've spotted something.

-What's that?

-It's, like, proper old opera glasses.

-Opera glasses!

You see quite a lot of opera glasses

and these are particularly nice because of this handle.

Chevalier is the name, so that is rather nice having the name around there.

And you've got this lovely handle.

If you just look at this...

-That looks like rope.

-Yes, it does.

There's string on there and then this gilt metal has been tooled

and engraved and mother-of-pearl on the handle as well.

Now, the price here is 55,

which I don't think is too bad.

At auction these could make anything from £20 to £40, £50.

What do you think about buying these?

We've got to get them to a good price...

We have. Why don't I go and have a chat with the stallholder?

-Have a look and see if there's anything else you fancy.

-No problem.

-OK.

Kate does her stuff and manages to negotiate it down to £35.

Pity she couldn't get them for a tenner, eh?

Opera glasses, tenner. Get it?

So, six minutes in and the Reds have bought the first thing they've seen.

Some might call that a risky move,

and the Blues have spotted something they're keen on.

Sometimes things just shout out at you.

-I can't say...

-He's got a nice expression.

-He has got a nice expression.

-A dog lover might like it.

-Exactly.

-Oh, I really like him, actually.

Well, I do like him. It's Delft, so Delft is a Dutch brand of pottery and Delft began manufacturing

in the 15th or 16th century and they were trying to emulate the Chinese

porcelain which was absolutely fine and beautiful and this was

about the best we could ever get.

-He's very nice.

-Because of his expression

-someone will fall in love with him.

-I think you're right...

It's the kind of thing two people might really fall in love with and you'll get one of them.

-That's true.

-Price-wise, what's the absolute best?

Well, I was looking for around 100,

-but I'm open to offers.

-85?

-Yes, that's fine.

-Thanks very much. Brilliant.

At least the Blues are smiling.

So, that's one-all. These teams don't hang about!

Here's the jewellery box that I was telling you about.

Lovely red leather and with this handle on the top.

Open it up and it's got that nice interior.

Oh, you can see the scissors and the mark of the needle and other sewing implements stored in there.

That's what originally would have been there. You've got the little tray

-and then the fittings for jewellery.

-Oh, yes.

And you've got little trays for your trinkets, your necklaces.

I asked my Brownies what I should get and they said go for

a jewellery box and stuff to keep your jewellery in, so that would fit that, but it doesn't quite...

It wouldn't be my personal taste. Would it make a profit?

-Well, that's marked at £52.

-That's a lot of money.

-A bit dear

for something in that condition.

Hi, your jewellery box, what can you do on the price for us?

You've got it marked at 52.

I could do it for 32, if that's a help.

32.

-That is better.

-It is better. Perhaps come back to it?

There's always the chance that somebody else might buy it.

We like it, don't take it personally. It's nice.

I will knock the two pounds off and come down to 30.

I'm teetering on a no at the moment.

-I'm teetering on a yes.

-Oh, no!

Should we do Rock, Paper, Scissors?

Go on, then.

One, two, three!

-I've never seen this done.

-One, two, three!

-Oh, no!

-We have it.

-OK, let's have it, please.

-£30?

-£30.

The Reds certainly know how to make a decision

and over with the Blues something's grabbed Lydia's attention.

-Is that a water filter? My dad's got a...

-A spirit barrel.

-Oh, a spirit barrel.

-It looks like Doulton.

It's that kind of salt glaze brown work. Let's have a look.

Look on the bottom.

It's not stamped Doulton, but it's got that look.

A spirit barrel, so that would be where your tap would come out.

What spirit would you put in?

A cheap one.

You go for quantity, I think, not quality.

-Too expensive.

-Yeah.

-It's probably 1880.

-Do you fancy it?

-Do you, Marley?

I think because it's salt glaze it's quite interesting, but it's not...

Sometimes you get the nice little tigery-looking bits in salt glaze, don't you?

-But it looks quite...

-Do you really?

-Do you know what I mean?

I don't, but you're teaching me!

You know too much, you do.

Well, I think, are we happy with that, you two?

-Marley, are you sure?

-Yeah.

I think it's a go for you. 50 quid?

-I think we might do all right and if we don't it's an interesting item, as well.

-It is.

-Thanks very much.

-It's an absolute pleasure.

They're just knocking out the deals today, so just over 20 minutes down and that's two buys each.

This was just on the stall here and I've just spotted it and whisked it away.

-Now, guess what that is?

-Is it a plant pot?

It could be a Roman oil dish of some sort, I don't know.

-Some sort of reservoir.

-I'll tell you exactly what it is.

-Go on, then.

-It's a dog bowl.

-A dog bowl!

-That would be why I wouldn't know.

-Are you dog lovers?

-No.

-I'm allergic to them.

Well, because these were used quite a lot, late 19th century, these were often broken.

-Right.

-Let me tell you a bit about it.

No factory marks on the bottom whatsoever.

-No.

-But it is stoneware.

-Yes.

-It's salt glazed and it's got this lovely raised frieze,

can you see, all the way round?

There was a little factory not far from here in Chesterfield

called Brampton and I think this is possibly a Brampton stoneware piece.

-That's really interesting.

-It is.

-And practical.

-Exactly!

-I'm thinking of you with your practicalities and it's definitely made to be used.

-Yes.

-How much?

-I've managed to negotiate 75 for you guys.

-75.

You're quite excited about it.

I am, I am.

-OK.

-Let's do it.

-Right.

-Are you sure, now?

-Yes.

We'll shake on it.

OK.

So, all three items picked in only half an hour.

That must be a record!

But will they have wished that they had shopped around when it comes to the auction?

Over with the Blues, there's no stopping that Lydia.

What is it then, Lydia, that you like about that?

I liked the little bird on it and I liked the colours.

It's probably Tibetan and it's something that might hold oil or perfume or snuff.

Do you think it would do well at auction?

Well, I don't think so, because, again, we're going to a general sale,

so it might be lost on people. Unless you really want to go for it.

I do like it. I could see you wearing that, Marley.

I'd wear it around my neck.

Or in your hair!

How much do you reckon it's worth maybe at auction?

Well, this is the exciting thing, about auction.

Who on earth knows? So, what do you reckon?

-It does look really interesting.

-How much do you reckon you'd pay for it?

About 35.

-That would be OK, wouldn't it? Try a bit more. I'd try 30 and see what they say.

-OK.

OK. Go on, we'll leave it to you.

-Hiya, could we get this for 30?

-Would you be happy at that?

I'd be happy at 30, definitely.

It's a nice little object.

-Here he comes.

-Now, how much then?

-What did you get it for?

-I got it for 35.

-And you're happy?

-Yeah, I'm happy.

-Lydia, are you happy?

-Very happy.

I'm happy because you've bought your items. Cup of tea time.

Wa-ay!

So, the Blues have their final item and all in a record 45 minutes.

So let's remind ourselves what the teams have bought.

Andrew didn't want to go solo

and convince the others to buy the French opera glasses.

It may have taken Paper, Scissor, Stone to decide, but they plumped

for the Edwardian red leather box for £30.

And Kate convinced them that they would be

in the money with the 19th century stoneware dog bowl.

Well, that was quite a zany shopping choosing method, wasn't it?

-Different.

-Scissors, Paper, Stone.

-If you don't know what on earth you're doing, why not play games?

-Quite right.

But tell me, Hillary, which is your favourite piece?

With hindsight, I might not personally have chosen any of them, but actually...

Charming that is, isn't it?

I'll go with the jewellery box for the Brownies, yes.

-Andrew, which is your favourite piece?

-My opera glasses. I'm very proud of them.

Which piece is going to bring the biggest profit in your prediction as a chartered accountant?

-I sincerely hope the dog dish as that's what the expert recommended.

-All right.

You spent an average £140, all right?

I'd like £160 of leftover lolly.

-There you go, Mum, check it out.

-OK, Andrew gives it to his mother who probably counts it.

Thank you very much.

-£160 going across to KB.

-Thank you very much.

You've had a testing time with these professionals!

-I really did.

-I know!

Andrew, I sense, is a bit more of a gambler, but Hillary

insisted on something practical, so I have my instructions.

-Well, good luck with that.

-Thank you.

Let's remind ourselves what the Reds are up against by reminding ourselves what the Blues bought.

The Blues were barking mad about the blue dog Delft wine holder at £85.

They still fancied a tipple

and bought the 1880s stoneware liquor barrel.

And Lydia thought it would look good in Marley's hair -

the Tibetan snuff or perfume bottle.

Lydia, your knowledge certainly pulled off that.

-Well, hopefully, yeah.

-Yes. Now, which is your favourite piece?

-I like the Delft dog.

-What about you, Marley?

-I've got high hopes for the Tibetan snuff box.

-Have you?

-Is it your prediction for the most profit, too?

-Yes.

-Is it?

A double whammy on that, which is great.

What about you, Lydia?

The dog. We're quite opposite. I've got low hopes for the snuff box.

-What, you don't like the snuff box?

-No.

-No.

Oh, well, we shall find out. What fun! You spent 170, which is good.

I'd like 130 of leftover lolly, thank you, for David Harper.

-Thank you, Tim.

-That's quite a lot.

-130 for a bonus buy.

-I've got a few things in mind, but I'm going to keep the suspense.

In other words, I haven't got a clue of what it's going to be!

-Well, that's extraordinarily honest.

-Thank you.

-And very good luck.

Well, it's great to be at Banford's Auction House in Derby with James Lewis.

-Welcome.

-Very kind. Now, our teams today,

Hillary and Andrew, their first item are the opera glasses.

Yeah, slightly concerned about that.

-A bit of cord wrapped around the handle.

-This area?

Yeah. I reckon there's been a little section of mother-of-pearl that's

been broken and they've applied that cord to make it tie in with the bag.

What do you think it's worth in that state, then, with its rough bag and later-strung handle?

I don't know. Around £40 to £60, you think?

-Do you reckon?

-Yeah.

-£35 they paid.

Oh, that's good.

What about this jewellery box?

I like that. I like the leather ones with that sort of very slightly-worn gilt.

£25 to £35.

-They paid £30.

-Oh, looking... Yeah.

-Yes.

-And now the dog bowl.

-Yeah, I saw that coming.

-You saw that coming.

-It's not a dog bowl.

-It's not a dog bowl?

No. It could be one of two things.

It is the base of either a large smoking stand or a water filter.

So, it would have a domed base, then a cylindrical section here for tobacco, another section on top

for cigarettes, or the water filter would just be a cylindrical section on the top with a cover.

These smoker's stands or water coolers make around £60

-to £80 complete, so the base of one is worth a fiver.

-Oh, dear.

Kate Bliss is going to be less than blissful about this, I can tell you.

-Sorry, Kate.

-So, about a fiver, then?

-I do.

-That's a disaster.

They're going to need their bonus buy. Let's have a look at it.

Now, Andrew and Hillary, you spent £140,

-gave Kate £160.

-We did.

-What did she spend it on?

Well, I spent it on a little piece of Derby.

-Now, I know you like functional things, Hillary.

-That's right.

This is what's known as a little tea bowl and saucer

and it would have been for drinking tea in the 18th century.

Have a look.

-You have the tea bowl.

-They hold it like that?

-Exactly that.

-That's beautiful.

-It's aged. It's not aged too badly.

This is a particularly nice example because of the condition, because of the decoration.

-So, roughly what might go for, do you think?

-Well, I paid £65,

which I think in the current auction market is probably about right.

It might make £70 or even £80 with a wind behind it.

Team, you don't decide right now, you decide later. And with Kate's strategic thought in mind here,

for the audience at home, let's find out what the auctioneer thinks about the tea bowl and saucer.

-Isn't it lovely?

-Lovely pattern

-Yes. 18th century Derby with that wonderful puce mark underneath.

-I like that a lot.

-Well, we like the fact that you like it a lot, but how much a lot do you like it?

-£50 to £70.

-£65 Kate paid, so she might be in the money.

-Yes, she might.

-But not for a huge profit in your view.

-No.

-No. OK, fine.

Well, that's it for the Reds, now for the Blues. First up is this tin-glaze doggie.

Isn't he great?

How much do you think?

-I should think an auction estimate should be £50 to £80.

-£85 paid.

-Oh, OK.

-£85.

I might be being a bit mean.

-Well, of course there are a lot of dog lovers about.

-Yeah.

The stoneware liquor barrel.

We sell loads of them and they tend to make around £25, £35, when they're chipped.

Well, that's the point, isn't it?

It's chipped. They paid £50, so that's going to be tough, isn't it?

-Yeah, it is.

-Now, to finish their trio we've got something that you're going to get really excited about.

-Yes.

-I know how much you love modern Tibetan snuff boxes.

I hate it. It's awful.

-It's just the most nasty thing.

-There you are, I told you he'd like it!

But the truth of the matter is, it's worth what, two or three pounds?

-Five pounds?

-It's awful.

-That type of amount.

-Yes.

-OK. We've got the message.

-OK.

-Well, I won't tell you that Lydia paid £35 for it.

-Good, good.

-Because it will spoil your day.

They'll need their bonus buy so let's go have a look at it.

-A solid silver Chester 1913 letter opener.

-Oh!

Quite plain, but I think quite sophisticated.

-I like the little penguin.

-That's why I bought it.

-Yeah.

-It's wacky, isn't it?

-It is pretty wacky.

-A guy in 1913 would put a picture of his lovely wife in there.

-Or a dog.

Or a dog, his child, but this guy loved penguins.

-Now, that fascinates me, Tim!

-Wonky penguins, as well.

-Wonky penguins!

-Yes.

What do you think, Marley?

-Is it something that lights your touch paper?

-Not that much of a fan of it, to be honest.

-What, of penguins or the thing?

-Everything. It seems really plain. It doesn't seem that special to me.

-How much did you spend on it?

-50 quid.

-50 quid, fine.

-There you go.

-We'll have a think.

-Do.

I've heard that before!

-That means I'll never see you again!

-Well, you can p-pick up a p-penguin or not later.

For the viewers at home, let's find out what the auctioneer thinks about David's little penguin.

-Super.

-Isn't that nice?

-Really nice, isn't it?

I guess you could use it as a letter opener or a bookmark

with that little bit at the top.

-It would be better with a lovely watercolour miniature of a dog or something like that.

-Yes.

But it is what it is. What do you think it's worth?

-£40 to £60.

-Brilliant. David paid £50.

-Oh, fine.

So, for a bonus buy, that's quite safe.

Yes, yes.

Seven, eight, nine.

Here we are on the edge of the auctioneering.

Andrew, how are you feeling? Nervous?

-Excited.

-Are you?

-Oh, yes.

That's good. Now, do you regret anything that you bought, Hillary?

-Yes, I do. Yes.

-What?

-In particular, the dog bowl.

-Which turns out apparently not to be a dog bowl,

though it looks just like a dog bowl, it feels just like a dog bowl,

it tastes just like a dog bowl, but in fact it's a bit of something else.

But there we are. These things happen.

So, I have an apology to make to you two because I'm the one that told you it was a dog bowl.

-It isn't a dog bowl, or it's found not to be a dog bowl, so I'm afraid...

-That's all right.

-We should have stood up to you and said no.

-It's much fault ours as it is yours.

-Indeed it is.

It looks just like a dog bowl. I can be more optimistic I'm glad to say, Andrew,

-about your opera glasses.

-Oh, lovely.

-Which you paid £35 for. The auctioneer thinks they're good.

£40 to £60 is his estimate on that, so that's a nice result and here they come.

The French gilt metal and mother-of-pearl opera glasses

and I can start the bidding here at £35. 35 and 40.

-40 with the lady.

-Yes!

45. 50. And five. 55 now?

At £50 to the right. 55, do I see?

At 50. And selling at £50. 55 do I see?

-Good!

-Whoa!

-£50 plus 15.

Are you after my job or something?

-Well, I'm glad you spied that.

-Well done.

-Now the jewellery box.

Late Victorian Edwardian red Morocco leather box and cover.

It's got a good country house look to it.

£20, do I see? At 20. And five now.

At £20 and five with me. 30.

Five. 40. It's against you.

-At 35 and 40 do I see?

-You're in profit.

35. Absentee bid and selling at 35.

That's five pounds, which is brilliant.

Kicked the bucket, which is plus 20.

You are £20 up. Now, the dog bowl.

Well, it is whatever you want it to be

with this dog bowl/water filter base/smoking stand base.

It's a bit of local salt glaze anyway and I can start the bidding

at £20 somewhere. 20? Anybody want it at 10?

£10? Anybody want it?

-Me?

-It cost a lot of money.

Get them out of a hole. £10, please?

Five. Five pounds. I thought we were going to have a Bargain Hunt first.

At five. No bids at all. Five.

Six. Seven. Eight. Nine. 10. 12.

At £10. At 10. And 12 do I see?

-Minus £65.

-Are we?

-So, very quickly you are overall minus £45.

-Correct.

OK, minus 45. The accountant looking over my shoulder is able to do the profit and loss just like that.

So, you are minus £45. Minus £45. What are we going to do about the tea bowl?

Now, minus £45 is a dirty shame, but it could be a winning score.

-You don't have to go with the tea bowl. What are you going to do?

-I think we should.

And here it comes.

A really pretty lot this one, circa 1775, and I've got three bids on it

and they're all almost identical and £60 is bid.

-Wow!

-And five do I see?

At £60. 65. 70. And five.

-75 by the door. And 80.

-That's good.

-Well done.

-At £75 to the right.

And 80 anywhere? At 75.

All done at £75? At 75.

Well done, Kate. £75, that's not bad, it's another £10 profit

-which is brilliant, which means overall you are minus £35.

-Yes!

-Not too bad.

-That is not too bad, all right?

-Yes.

So, don't tell the Blues a sausage.

-Now, Lydia and Marley, have you been talking to the Reds?

-No, we haven't.

-They're keeping their mouths tightly closed.

-Well and truly zipped.

-Yeah.

It's a long time to wait. Are you feeling nervous?

-A bit nervous, but quietly confident.

-What about you, Lydia?

Yeah, we'll have to see.

The first item, David, is that nice tin-glazed dog vessel with the revolving head,

-which I have to say I think is a handsome fellow, isn't he?

-Yeah.

And you paid £85 for it, which is a good price.

He has put £50 to £80 on it. And it's coming up now.

We have three commission bids on this lot.

This is the Delft tin-glaze pottery jar and cover

of the little dog sitting there begging.

Begging to be bought.

And where shall we start it? Well, I've got one bid of £80 to start.

-Come on, James.

-85 now.

-Go for it.

-85. 90. 95.

-Go on!

No. At £90. With me at 90. It's against you at the back of the room.

-A profit is a profit.

-It's true.

A profit's a profit. You are five pounds up on that.

I told you it was a good one. Now, your stoneware barrel.

Treacle-glazed stoneware liquor barrel and £20 starts it.

20 and two now.

22, front row. 25 and 28 for you. 28 has it.

-Front row at £28. Anybody else?

-Man!

-At £28.

-No!

That's 28. You're two shy of 30, which means you're minus 22.

-We've saved the best for last!

-This will bring it all back.

-It's minus 22.

-Oh, yeah, the Tibetan thing!

-Which means you're minus £17 overall.

-OK, lot 677.

-OK, here comes Tibetan.

Is this Eastern white metal perfume bottle or snuff.

Where shall we start this? £25 for it? 20, then?

-Anybody want it at ten?

-Uh-oh.

-What?

-Five. Five pounds bid. By the door at five. And eight do I see?

Eight. 10. At £10 by the door. At 10 and 12 do I see?

-It's not looking good.

-That's awful.

Are we all done at 10? Oh, dear.

£10 is minus £25.

So, that's 17, 37, 42.

Minus £42, OK? Minus £42.

Let's hope the Reds didn't do so well!

Now, listen, minus £42 could be a winning score, all right?

-You have to think carefully now what to do here.

-Oh, yeah, because we've got the...

You're not going to go home with a lump of profit. £42 down the drain.

It could be a winning score or you can chance it, risk it for a biscuit, pick up a penguin

and, you know, run on with it. What do you think?

-We might as well.

-Do it, yeah.

We're going with the bonus buy. Here it comes.

The George V silver letter opener with a little penguin at the end

and it's hallmarked for Chester 1913

and I can start the bidding here at £30 and five anywhere? 35. 40.

-Do you like it?

-I love it.

-50.

-Yes!

-Do you want 55?

-At £50. 55 now? 55.

-Yes!

60. At £60. Still with me at 60.

65 anywhere?

Come on, James.

Go on, James!

-At 60. It's not me, it's that one! Go on, one more. No.

-Aw!

And selling at £60.

£60 is a £10 profit. Good boy.

-That's knocked a bit off...

-Yeah, our losses!

Minus £32. You're minus £32. It could be a winning score. You made a right decision there.

Your man delivered the goods and what more could you ask?

This could be a winning score, so don't chat to the Reds, all right?

-Yeah.

-Lips sealed up.

60.

Well, how exciting is this?

This is a competition that is almost too close to call.

-No!

-There's three pounds between the teams.

-No!

Each team went with the bonus buy

and each team made a profit of £10

-and the team that is marginally behind are the Reds.

-Hurrah!

-But there is only three pounds in it.

-That's amazing!

It is amazing, isn't it?

-And you have been a great team. I hope you've enjoyed it.

-It's been lovely.

-It's been great fun.

Lovely having you on the programme. The winners, well done!

-You made a nice profit on your Delft wine holder.

-Yeah.

-The little dog dog.

-Made a nice profit on the penguin letter opener.

-Thank you, David.

-That's all right.

Overall you are minus £32, so very sadly

-you're not going home with any pound notes in your pocket.

-That's OK.

But you can wear the mantle with pride as the victors today on Bargain Hunt.

-I hope you've had a great time. We have. Join us soon for some more bargain hunting, yes?

-Yes!

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