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-My guest on CRWYDRO today

-is a singer, an actress...

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-..a scriptwriter and a composer.

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-She's on radio,

-television and the stage.

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-She's also a mother of four.

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-Caryl Parry Jones is taking me for

-a walk along the south Gower coast.

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-The area has inspired

-many of her songs.

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-# UNMAN I FFOI - Caryl Parry Jones

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-# I fight every day,

-I fight for a way out of this.

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-# My eyes are everywhere,

-I seize every scarce opportunity.

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-# I try my best, but I can't let go.

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-# The grass is greener

-on the other side,

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-# And it'll always

-be on the other side.

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-# There's nowhere to run. #

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-Caryl, you come

-from the Prestatyn area.

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-I expected you to return

-to that area, not come to the Gower.

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-I know -

-it's an unusual choice, perhaps.

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-But this is where

-I bring my children.

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-Their roots are in south Wales.

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-I know, when I'll look back

-on my life...

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-..I'll have sweet memories

-of being here with my children.

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-I come to the Gower.

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-I was brought up

-on the Flintshire coast.

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-It was a lot of fun.

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-The family would go to Ffrith Beach

-in Prestatyn every year.

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-The sea at Rhyl wasn't quite as nice

-as the sea here in the Gower.

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-It looked a bit like Guinness!

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-It's better now!

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-It's better now!

-

-Yes, it's much better now.

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-The sea used to be brown

-with creamy foam!

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-Hazardous, to say the least!

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-I love this walk

-from Port Eynon to Oxwich Point...

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-..then round

-past Nicholaston Woods....

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-..and we finish up

-at Three Cliffs Bay.

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-As they call it in Welsh!

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-It's a great walk,

-Wales at its best.

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-The sea, and plenty of greenery too.

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-The sea, and plenty of greenery too.

-

-And some mountains, too.

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-They're too big for me!

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-What have you done with the weather?

-It's raining!

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-What have you done with the weather?

-It's raining!

-

-I know. Rotten luck!

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-I don't think it'll spoil the views,

-just spoil my hair!

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-Your hair looks smart!

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-You're very well-known

-as a performer.

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-You act, sing and compose.

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-Is it something you've done

-since you were small?

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-Yes, apparently,

-according to Dad and Mam.

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-Mam has reel-to-reel tapes...

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-..of me doing a concert

-when I was aged three.

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-Everyone had to sit in a row,

-even Emrys, my imaginary friend!

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-Dad is a fantastic pianist.

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-When I sang "Mi Welais Jac y Do",

-we'd have a five-minute intro!

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-I thought everyone's father

-could play the piano like that!

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-Dad had a choir, he conducted

-concerts and hymn singing festivals.

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-He was a pianist and a composer

-and Mam sang a lot too.

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-We were a Welsh showbiz family!

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-They thoroughly enjoyed eisteddfodau

-and concerts.

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-Performing

-was part of my upbringing.

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-The rain's blown over us.

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-The rain's blown over us.

-

-Yes, thank goodness.

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-Thanks for letting me borrow

-your trousers!

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-Not very sexy, but they do the job!

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-You wait - people will write to you

-admiring your trousers!

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-We're leaving agricultural land

-behind us now - this land's wilder.

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-Did you know from an early age

-that you wanted to be a performer?

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-No, I wanted to work in a shoe shop!

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-I thought that seemed

-a very nice job!

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-That's the job for me, I thought!

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-To be honest, Iolo, it wasn't

-so fashionable at the time.

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-When I was a member of Sidan

-years ago...

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-..we'd go down to Cardiff

-to appear in television programmes.

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-To me, it seemed like a private club

-that was difficult to get into.

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-You wouldn't choose

-to make a career in the media...

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-..because it wasn't open to you.

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-Entertainment as a livelihood

-wasn't something I considered.

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-Having said that, it was still

-a way of life within our family.

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-Dad and Mam did it.

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-When I was a little girl...

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-..aunties and uncles

-would call round to practise.

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-Mam went out to sing

-in lovely dresses.

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-There was something showbizzy

-about my upbringing...

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-..though it was showbiz

-with a small 's'.

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-The light looks nice over there,

-with those ships on the horizon.

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-The weather's getting better!

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-We can see the hills of Somerset

-in the distance.

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-I'm not sure.

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-My geography's rubbish!

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-I'm glad the trousers have gone.

-Thanks for letting me borrow them!

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-But they didn't do much

-for my street cred!

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-But they didn't do much

-for my street cred!

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-You don't look so sexy now!

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-You don't think so?!

-Whatever turns you on!

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-If I can return to your childhood...

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-..your father

-had a big influence on you.

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-Yes.

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-Dad was out a lot.

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-He was a teacher during the day.

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-He was an accompanist,

-composer or conductor...

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-..when he went out to do his gigs.

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-But in dealing with an audience,

-telling jokes, sense of humour...

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-..he's had a huge influence on me.

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-He still makes me laugh.

-It's the way he says things.

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-He's one of the funniest people

-I know.

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-He's also had a huge

-musical influence on me.

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-He was the one who made me

-passionate about music...

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-..and taught me

-the importance of harmony...

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-..and how to compose

-memorable melodies.

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-He showed me the way.

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-And you're still good friends.

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-And you're still good friends.

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-The best. I think the world of him.

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-And Mam, of course.

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-She's OK, too, really!

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-You'll get a row when you go home!

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-But fair play, she also had

-a big influence on me.

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-She was a singer.

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-She won five times

-at the National Eisteddfod.

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-There's a story about her winning

-at one National Eisteddfod.

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-Her brother Gwyn

-was walking through Ffynnongroyw...

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-..and some guy shouted at him...

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-.."Gwyn, I hear your sister's

-won the Grand National again!"

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-The stories they brought home

-with them after concerts!

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-They did a concert every year

-in one place.

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-And every year this eccentric

-little man got up to thank them.

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-"I definitely think we've had

-a very good time tonight.

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-"I definitely think Mr Rhys Jones

-should go on 'Opportunity Knocks'.

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-"I definitely think

-we should now have a sing-song.

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-"I definitely think

-we've had our favourite hymns.

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-"Now for my favourite hymn, 'She'll

-be Coming Round the Mountain!'"

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-Every year!

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-You were in a band

-when you were very young...

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-..when the Welsh rock scene began.

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-Was it an exciting time?

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-Gracious, yes!

-It was a very exciting time.

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-Sidan was my first group.

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-Before that, I sang duets

-with a boy called Gareth Parry...

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-..when I was about 11 or 12.

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-We were on the same bill

-as male voice choirs.

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-Sometimes Dafydd Iwan

-or Hogia'r Wyddfa would be there...

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-..or Tony ac Aloma.

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-It was very exciting.

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-But by the time Sidan was going...

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-..there was another generation

-of groups.

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-Though people like Hogia'r Wyddfa

-were still going.

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-And every time Sidan sang

-with Hogia'r Wyddfa...

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-..guaranteed, we'd walk into

-a little room behind the stage...

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-..and they'd be in their underpants!

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-I've seen Myrddin's backside

-more often than his wife has!

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-We had a lot of fun.

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-And it gave rise

-to the occasional romance.

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-Though not with Hogia'r Wyddfa,

-I hasten to add!

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-Then you moved on

-from Sidan to Injaroc...

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-..and then on to Bando.

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-It was a wonderful period.

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-I left the angelic singing behind.

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-For some proper rock.

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-Though I was listening to some

-old records the other day...

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-..and I sounded awful.

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-My voice was very weak.

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-But I was doing something

-I really enjoyed.

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-A lot of the music we did with Sidan

-was very proper...

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-..especially things like harmonies.

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-I really felt

-I wanted something different.

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-Something a bit more raunchy.

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-Injaroc didn't last very long...

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-..and the band wasn't accepted

-at the time.

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-But it gave rise

-to a lot of other groups.

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-Endaf formed Jip,

-Geraint formed Eliffant.

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-Edward H got together again

-and I formed Bando.

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-Look at this.

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-Good gracious!

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-It looks unearthly.

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-Like something commissioned

-by Steven Spielberg!

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-Most people think it's spider web.

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-But it's really a larval web.

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-The web's been woven by moths...

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-..to protect

-their little caterpillars.

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-It's more or less

-a sign that summer's over.

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-It'll protect the caterpillars...

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-It'll protect the caterpillars...

-

-Throughout winter? They're in there?

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-It protects them from the weather

-and from some predators.

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-It's interesting.

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-It's interesting.

-

-I could do with one of those!

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-To protect you, like a raincoat!

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-To protect you, like a raincoat!

-

-To protect me from predators!

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-There aren't any around here,

-except for me!

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-888

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-We're leaving the beach for the

-woods, and the sun's shining.

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-We're leaving the beach for the

-woods, and the sun's shining.

-

-It's lovely.

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-When it's like this in the Gower,

-you don't need to go anywhere else.

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-We're heading

-for Nicholaston Woods now.

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-It's unusual to have a forest

-so close to the beach.

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-I'm aware it's there but

-I've never actually been in there.

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-It's good to have you with me

-to take me there!

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-I worked there some years ago

-but I haven't been back since.

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-You still perform regularly,

-on television and on stage.

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-Do you still enjoy it?

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-I love it.

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-I often sing with a '60s band.

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-The members happen to be close

-friends and we have a lot of fun.

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-Sometimes, after a hard week...

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-..you just want a bath,

-TV, then bed.

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-But once you're there

-and the first notes are played...

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-..you get that rush of adrenaline

-or whatever.

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-It's always a lot of fun.

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-I really enjoyed

-the Faenol Festival.

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-I had a different band there,

-the Millionaires.

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-That gave it extra impetus.

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-Experimenting with different

-musicians gave me a lot of pleasure.

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-As if you weren't busy enough,

-you also have four children.

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-Yes!

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-Do you enjoy it?

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-Do you enjoy it?

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-Yes, I do.

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-They're great. All four

-are very good friends of mine.

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-Your children

-have inspired some songs.

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-Yes, they have.

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-I wrote a song about Moc,

-called 'Mor Dawel'.

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-Moc had trouble with his speech

-for a few years.

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-He's better now

-but we were worried at the time.

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-I wrote 'Mor Dawel' about him.

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-We were here last summer and I

-watched the children on the beach.

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-The whole thing seemed like a film -

-flashbacks in films.

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-I was thinking of how I'd look back

-on that moment when they're gone.

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-It gave me the idea for a song

-called "Wela'i Di Rhywdro".

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-It's about a child leaving home.

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-Elan, I suppose,

-will be the first to leave.

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-It's about the day she leaves home

-and how it'll affect us both.

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-This is called The Devil's Pulpit.

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-He gets all the best views!

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-There's one above Talyllyn, too...

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-..which is one of the best views

-in Wales.

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-The old rascal!

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-A magnificent view.

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-It's just so...

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-..it's a very inspiring view.

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-All of it, with the sun on the sea.

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-Fantastic.

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-Out of everything you do - acting,

-singing, writing, composing...

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-..what do you enjoy most?

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-I'm always being asked this.

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-I think I could live

-without them all except music.

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-I couldn't live without music.

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-Composing is what gives me

-most pleasure.

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-Composing a song and seeing it

-from its creation to its birth.

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-You must be disciplined

-and you must have plenty of ideas.

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-I carry this with me everywhere.

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-It's like a notebook.

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-A Dictaphone.

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-Yes, so I can record my voice.

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-The quality is quite rough.

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-But it's essential.

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-Sometimes you get a good idea

-but you forget it.

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-Do you sing into it?

-Or record words?

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-Do you sing into it?

-Or record words?

-

-I sing into it.

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-I sing, giving some idea

-of the words.

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-I try to go for something

-that people will remember, a hook.

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-It could be the first line of a

-chorus or the last line of a verse.

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-Something people will remember.

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-For example, if I was here today...

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-..and I wanted to write

-about what I see...

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-..this view brings West Coast songs

-to mind.

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-The Eagles, people like that.

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-I'd think about that

-and about some kind of rhythm.

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-Four-four, or six-eight or whatever.

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-Maybe a six-eighter would be nice.

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-And I'd go...

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-SHE SINGS WITHOUT WORDS

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-Something like this.

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-Then I think of a chorus.

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-# Seeing the sea before me,

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-# Da-da da-da-da, da.

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-# Da da da da, da. #

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-Something like that.

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-That was quite good!

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-I just make little notes like that

-as a reminder.

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-When I get home I sit at the piano

-and put chords around it.

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-I can hear the chords in my head,

-even the whole arrangement.

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-I try to put some idea of the chords

-and structure on this.

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-Then I take it

-to a musical director.

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-Myf does a lot of that work for me.

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-Myf does a lot of that work for me.

-

-Your husband, Myf?

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-Yes. I give the tape to him

-or to whoever will arrange it.

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-I give them some idea of what

-I'd like to hear on the track.

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-I hear strings here, the bass

-coming in at the start of verse two.

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-They transpose these scribbles

-into a track...

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-..with words and backing vocals.

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-It really is an amazing process.

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-We had a specific brief

-with 'Tair Chwaer'.

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-The producers would tell me,

-"In this part...

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-..Sharon realises

-her husband's having an affair.

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-"She's distressed, she breaks

-her heart, so we want a sad song.

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-"This is the song

-that starts episode three.

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-"Sharon feels she's had enough...

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-..and she can't escape

-from the rut she's in."

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-I was quite chuffed

-with 'Unman i Ffoi'.

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-The sentiment fitted the story

-very well.

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-There's also something very raunchy

-about the whole song.

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-You sit in a place like this

-and you think...

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-.."I'd love to bring Sharon here

-for some peace and quiet!

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-"Away from that stupid husband

-of hers!"

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-The words just came -

-"Nowhere to run" - that tag.

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-It's important to have something

-that people will remember.

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-"Nowhere to run, nowhere to hide."

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-# Well it's happening once again,

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-# No, there's no escape

-to be had now.

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-# Every time there's deception. #

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-Every time I see 'Tair Chwaer'

-or think of 'Tair Chwaer'...

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-..I remember all the shambles

-in their lives...

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-..and yet the songs were composed

-in glorious peace!

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-# There's no escape now. #

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-It's nice to take our shoes off!

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-It's nice to take our shoes off!

-

-Oh, it's nice!

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-This water's cold!

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-This water's cold!

-

-Very cold, but it's lovely!

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-A place like this

-can give you a lot of inspiration.

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-But it's nice to come to a place

-like this to do nothing.

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-And when you come to places

-like this to relax and to forget...

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-..it ultimately benefits

-your work too.

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-Yes indeed.

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-You have to leave it behind,

-sometimes.

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-You have to leave it behind,

-sometimes.

-

-Gracious, yes.

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-As the saying goes,

-a change is as good as a rest.

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-That's so true.

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-And the older I get,

-the truer it becomes!

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-Here we are at Three Cliffs Bay.

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-Our journey's end.

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-In all its glory!

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-It's nice to sit down!

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-Goodness me,

-that's what I call a view!

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-Wales at its best.

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-Fantastic!

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-Fantastic!

-

-I could jump into the sea from here!

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-It's magnificent.

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-It's magnificent.

-

-And it's cold!

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-That's true!

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-It's strange, sometimes you're

-commissioned to write songs...

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-..at the end of summer, say.

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-You have to write Christmas songs.

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-So you're sitting on the beach

-singing 'Silent Night'...

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-..under a blazing sun!

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-It must be difficult, having

-to think of snow while sunbathing!

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-Maybe it's not so difficult,

-it's just strange.

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-Santa Claus comes to the Gower, too!

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-Santa Claus comes to the Gower, too!

-

-Yes, of course!

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-It's great.

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-It doesn't matter what the

-commission is, if I can come here.

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-I just hope I won't lose sight

-of it as a place to relax.

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-That's the danger when you come to

-a place like this for inspiration.

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-You think too much when you're here.

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-But I can switch off.

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-And relax.

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-It's been an incredible trip.

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-I've seen the Gower at its finest.

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-Incredible.

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-That's right.

-Thanks for your company.

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-# Sleep in heavenly peace,

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-# Sleep in heavenly peace,

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-# Sleep in heavenly peace,

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-# Sleep in heavenly peace. #

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