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-Our cameras have followed students

-from Cardiff University.

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-You see things you wouldn't normally

-see. You have to grow up quickly.

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-15 individuals on an unique course.

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-We get the creme de la creme.

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-I'm the most competitive.

-I'm itching for the responsibility.

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-From the classroom

-to hospitals across Wales.

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-It's going to be more challenging

-than anything they've done before.

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-Entering the medical world

-for the first time.

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-Young student doctors

-are like little chicks.

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-Do you remember that?

-It was hilarious.

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-Facing the greatest challenge

-of their young lives.

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-This year was the first time

-I saw someone die.

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-It really hit me

-because she's not going to recover.

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-I feel like I'm drowning,

-that I'm not doing enough work.

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-Medicine is hard.

-The course is going to be hard.

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-As we chronicle every step

-to become tomorrow's doctors.

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-We'll be the doctor on the scene.

-We'll be in charge.

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-This is superb.

-What made me choose this path?

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-This is not about elitism.

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-You have been given a gift.

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-You must use that gift to do good.

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-For young students, there is

-an unique challenge in Year 3...

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-..the oncology project.

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-For three months, the students

-are assigned to a cancer patient.

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-They chronicle

-every clinical step...

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-..and see how the disease

-affects patients and their families.

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-It's the experience of being

-the other side of the desk.

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-This term we've been doing

-the oncology project.

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-Basically, we're assigned to

-patients with some form of cancer.

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-It can be treatable

-or they're palliative.

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-We follow them for three months

-and write up our project.

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-My patient is Nina.

-She used to work as a nurse.

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-She has cancer -

-she previously had breast cancer.

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-It's returned

-and spread to her lungs.

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-She's palliative.

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-This is Catrin's first experience

-of dealing with a cancer patient.

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-When I first met her,

-she was receiving chemotherapy.

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-The chemo stopped working

-so the cancer was growing back.

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-I'm here to meet

-my oncology patient.

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-She's meeting

-a thrombosis specialist.

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-She has secondary breast cancer.

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-She had a scan a few weeks ago which

-showed her treatment wasn't working.

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-You have a medical student following

-you around. Is she behaving?

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-She's not bad.

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-If she weren't full up,

-I'd have her as a daughter.

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-That's not bad.

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-They found clots on her lung.

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-And also fluid.

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-They're now deciding on the

-best course of treatment for her.

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-If there's a small clot there...

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-..we want to treat that,

-but I also want to make sure...

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-..that any other clots

-are being treated as well.

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-She deteriorated quickly

-in next to no time.

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-She became more breathless

-and she'd cough a lot more.

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-Just the fluid

-building up on her lungs.

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-You can't cure me

-but you can keep me going.

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-I think you're doing great.

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-It's very unfair.

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-It is, it is absolutely crap.

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-And it always seems to hit

-the nice people.

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-The oncology project is important...

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-..because the students

-get to know the patients...

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-..at a very vulnerable time

-in their lives.

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-In numerous examples,

-the student and the patient...

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-..have become very close.

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-It's odd seeing the other side

-and dealing with their families...

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-..and the social, psychological

-and physical aspects.

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-I think it's a privilege

-for them to be part...

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-..of such an unique time...

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-..and painful time

-in a patient's life.

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-While Catrin experiences

-the long term effects of cancer...

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-..Sioned meets a patient who's

-been diagnosed for the first time.

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-My patient is Neil.

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-He's coming to Velindre

-with his partner Linda.

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-He's been diagnosed

-with cancer of the tonsils.

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-I've never really dealt

-with cancer patients before.

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-I didn't know how to talk

-about cancer.

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-People are frightened

-of the word cancer.

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-I felt awkward initially,

-I didn't know what I should say.

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-I'm in Velindre this morning

-meeting Neil.

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-He comes in every day

-for radiotherapy.

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-He started a fortnight ago.

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-He's facing 40 sessions

-of radiotherapy.

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-Neil's treatment is intense -

-every day without fail.

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-He has a mask fitted

-before he starts, to hold him still.

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-The radiotherapy beams must target

-the same place on the tumour.

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-Cancer is a terrifying disease

-for the whole family.

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-Linda is never far from Neil's side.

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-She's suffered from breast cancer.

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-Because he's had

-such a positive prognosis...

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-..then I suppose the initial shock

-is "Oh, it's cancer."

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-And then, you know, coming down

-to a place like Velindre...

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-..and see what work they're doing...

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-..and you think,

-"Oh, yeah, he's gonna be fine."

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-We reassure each other.

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-He's been doing really well.

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-They initially thought

-he might lose his oesophagus...

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-..and he'd have to be fed by tubes.

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-I didn't know what to expect

-before starting the project.

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-I hope he'll be OK after the

-treatment. It's a positive story.

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-Some students

-have very different patients...

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-..who respond to treatment

-differently.

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-Back in Newport, Nina has

-an impossible decision to make.

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-It was the most difficult

-appointment I had with Nina.

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-She'd had a lung biopsy

-to determine...

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-..the next course of treatment.

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-Nina's cancer is spreading

-despite her chemotherapy treatment.

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-It's interesting

-to see the difference...

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-..when you're the other side

-of the door.

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-I'm sitting there

-waiting for the doctor.

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-When you're following a doctor,

-you have so much to do.

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-It reminds you when that patient

-comes through the door...

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-..they've been patiently waiting

-for the results for hours.

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-They only want to hear good news

-but that's not always the case.

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-You're hoping for good news.

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-The emotions are so real by the time

-you reach the doctor's room.

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-The patient listens intently

-to every word the doctor says.

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-You should reconsider the options.

-Up to now, we've given chemotherapy.

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-And that's stopped working.

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-It makes you realise the enormity of

-the experience of seeing the doctor.

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-Wow.

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-Tougher every week.

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-I remember the options.

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-One was a clinical trial, the other

-was a treatment with side effects.

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-It was awful.

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-I can go on to a clinical trial...

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-..which involves injections

-once a month.

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-..or I can keep coming here

-and have hormone treatment...

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-..with something else alongside it.

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-That might not work as well.

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-I knew the enormity

-of that decision for them.

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-I couldn't make that decision,

-just like...

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-They had such a huge decision

-in front of them.

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-I've been feeling so well this

-last six weeks off of the chemo.

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-I don't know

-if I really want to go back on it...

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-..to be quite honest.

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-But I've got to

-if I want to be here.

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-'Tween the devil

-and the deep blue sea really.

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-Back to square one.

-It's all back to square one.

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-I think he finds it very difficult.

-He knows she doesn't want chemo.

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-I think that's hard

-for him to accept.

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-It's her decision

-at the end of the day.

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-He has no control.

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-I understand if she's had enough.

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-You don't want...

-You want to enjoy life.

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-I was told I had two years and

-I've done ten months of that now.

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-So...

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-..yeah.

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-You know there's no cure,

-it's just the best we can do.

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-The best we can do.

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-You're looking now to see is the

-treatment worse than the disease?

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-Is the treatment

-worse than the disease?

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-Because the last lot really was,

-wasn't it?

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-It was horrendous.

-I don't want to do that again.

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-Just want to see the kids grow up,

-that's the worst bit.

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-The little ones.

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-That was quite overwhelming.

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-She said she wouldn't see

-her grandchildren growing up.

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-That really hit me, actually.

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-I was just like...

-That's quite like...

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-Sorry.

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-I think now,

-she said it hit her today.

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-It's a reminder

-that there's no cure.

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-It hit me too because when I speak

-to them, and we're having a chat...

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-..you do forget that...

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-Now that I've got to know them and

-I know what's going to happen...

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-..when she said that,

-it really hit me.

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-I felt I had to hold back a little.

-It's just such a huge thing.

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-Sorry.

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-Subtitles

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-Subtitles

-

-Subtitles

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-With one term remaining

-until graduation...

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-..expectations are high

-for final year students.

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-Without warning, Guto and Swyn's

-skills will be tested to the fore.

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-Today, we've set up a cardiac arrest

-scenario with the students.

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-They don't know

-we're going to bleep them.

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-They haven't dealt with this

-on their own before.

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-Blood pressure is around 119.

-We're quite happy with that.

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-BLEEPS

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-He still needs to do

-the end of block reports thing.

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-BLEEPS

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-Guto?

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-Uh?

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-Oh, OK.

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-See you soon.

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-Hiya.

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-OK, what's happened here?

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-Mr Jones...

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-..he's become unresponsive.

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-There's no pulse.

-Carry on with the CPR.

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-I'll get the defib ready.

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-The first time they do it, the

-adrenaline has built up on the way.

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-They're out of breath

-and they're not sure what to expect.

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-It could be a child,

-it could be anything.

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-Just putting the defibs on.

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-I'm switching it on, OK.

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-We're going to shock. OK?

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-I'll turn it up to 150.

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-Charging. OK?

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-When Guto was using the defib,

-it's important to realise...

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-..that these are real defibs,

-they're not toys.

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-Off.

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-Carry on.

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-OK, is there IV access?

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-No, we tried earlier.

-We couldn't get it in.

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-Are we going IO?

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-IO?

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-Can you get an IO kit out?

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-Can you get an IO kit out?

-

-There's one to your side.

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-As a rule, there's a team of six.

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-There's enough for one to make

-decisions, one to do the defib...

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-..one to get access,

-one to administer drugs...

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-..someone to swap

-for the chest compressions.

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-The ECG looks alright,

-check the pulse.

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-There's no pulse.

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-We can't shock. Adrenaline.

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-Adrenaline, one milligramme.

-One in ten thousand.

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-Adrenaline going in.

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-Hello. Check the pulse.

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-Can we do an ABCDE, please?

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-OK. What's his name?

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-OK. What's his name?

-

-Robert Jones.

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-Hello, Robert?

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-Can you confirm your date of birth?

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-OK, we can stop there.

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-OK, well done.

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-Right, so, how did you feel

-when your bleeper went off?

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-I just panicked.

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-I just panicked.

-

-Calmed down now.

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-It was the adrenaline first

-when it went off.

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-You don't know what's ahead.

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-You were the team leader.

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-What do you think

-you should have been doing?

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-Did you feel like a spare part?

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-It felt odd standing there

-doing nothing...

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-..but I think it's important

-to have someone...

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-..whose role is to keep an eye

-on what everyone else is doing.

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-It could have been more slick.

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-It's the first time we've done it...

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-It's the first time we've done it...

-

-Practise, yeah.

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-If I was in that situation

-next time...

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-..at least I'd have an idea

-about what to do.

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-For a first time,

-that was very good.

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-There we go.

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-It was good to have the experience

-of practising something like that.

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-A month into the oncology project...

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-..Sioned returns

-to Velindre Cancer Centre...

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-..to catch up with Neil after

-a difficult chemotherapy session.

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-After the last chemotherapy,

-Neil wasn't keen on another course.

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-We'll discuss in the review

-whether he takes the final course.

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-He felt very ill

-after the previous one.

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-They'll discuss

-if it's worth another go.

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-So I would like you to have...

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-So I would like you to have...

-

-No, you wouldn't.

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-You said the wrong thing

-with your tinnitus.

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-I would like, if you will have it...

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-..there is a benefit to you

-having your final chemotherapy.

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-The best treatment is for you

-to have all three chemotherapies.

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-Some people come to this stage in

-their treatment and they're unwell.

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-Not able to eat or drink,

-very severe side effects.

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-We wouldn't give them

-the third chemotherapy.

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-You're in good shape

-for where you are in your treatment.

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-No, I'm not.

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-On that basis...

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-..I would like to offer you

-the full course of your treatment.

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-That gives us the best chance.

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-You just want to torture me,

-don't you?

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-I'm not going to force you

-to have it.

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-I'll have it then. If you think it's

-best, that's what we'll go with.

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-We discussed whether he'd have

-the final chemotherapy.

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-That's booked in for next week.

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-I didn't think he'd take it but

-the consultant talked him round.

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-He's having his chemotherapy

-next week.

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-That finishes your treatment,

-we've done all the treatment we can.

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-We've given it our best shot.

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-It's the final week

-of Neil's treatment.

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-He's here

-for the final chemotherapy.

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-Hiya.

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-Last week you said

-your pain was quite bad.

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-They told you to double

-your painkillers.

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-That's because

-you are actually taking it.

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-Linda found out that Neil was

-refusing to take his painkillers.

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-That's why he was in so much pain.

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-The pain was stopping him eating.

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-How's it been over the weekend?

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-Bad, really bad.

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-And he've stopped eating.

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-Have you?

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-The dietician weighed him and he's

-lost more weight since the weekend.

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-She was worried about his weight.

-She considered inserting a tube.

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-The tube goes up through the nose

-and down to the stomach.

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-That provides him with nutrition.

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-So I can see

-a PEG feed coming on here.

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-Can you?

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-Do you think

-you can force yourself to eat?

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-They discussed one at the start

-of the treatment.

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-He said right from the start that

-it was the one thing he opposed.

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-He's had a shock today to hear that.

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-He's been focused

-on completing the treatment.

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-To hear that,

-it was a setback for him.

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-The oncology project

-is about understanding...

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-..from the diagnosis,

-all the way through the treatment...

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-..and hopefully,

-a good resolution...

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-..in some cases,

-not a good resolution.

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-In many cases,

-the resolution is not good...

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-..but every patient,

-irrespective of where they get to...

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-..deserves the same standard

-of care.

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-It's an eye opener

-about what's ahead for us.

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-You're not human,

-you're not in the right job...

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-..if you turn up for work

-every day...

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-..thinking that person's

-just had that diagnosis.

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-I wouldn't want

-to be like that either.

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-How are you?

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-Better than I was

-but I'm still breathless.

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-Over the weekend,

-I was in a bit of a state.

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-I had it drained yesterday...

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-..and they said

-they got a litre of fluid off.

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-It's rapidly accumulating.

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-We've got no choice but

-to recommend you go to chemotherapy.

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-OK.

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-We need to get on top of it.

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-I think that's the way

-we need to go.

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-OK.

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-Alright?

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-It's good for you, innit?

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-Yeah.

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-Nina was hoping to avoid

-more chemotherapy.

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-It's just what I didn't want to do.

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-Just what you didn't want to do.

-There's no option, is there?

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-Doesn't sound like it, does it?

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-Doesn't sound like it.

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-Tubes in, tubes out.

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-Makes you feel like

-you're shuffling off now.

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-It's for the best at the moment.

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-It's the best of what we've got.

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-Yeah.

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-It's important that we see this...

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-..so we understand the impact

-it has on patients in the future.

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-One traumatic experience for me...

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-..was having a patient who had

-no symptoms before the treatment.

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-What hit her more than anything

-was the treatment itself.

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-She had terrible side effects,

-it was excruciating watching her.

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-She deteriorated every week.

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-I could see the deterioration

-and that was difficult.

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-The pain wasn't coming

-from the cancer itself...

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-..but from the treatment

-that was meant to heal her.

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-If it's like the other lot when I

-had the first one, I'm not doing it.

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-I'm not that brave.

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-Being a patient

-is immensely challenging...

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-..both for the patient themselves

-and for everybody around them.

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-It sounds glib

-but it does change your life.

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-It changes your whole life.

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-You need to understand that dynamic

-if you're going to be a doctor.

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-It's helped me because no-one in

-my family has had that diagnosis.

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-It also scares you.

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-You read in the paper,

-"one in two of you."

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-It scares you.

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-I think it's important

-for us to have this.

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-I feel as if I've grown up -

-it's made me think more...

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-..about how patients feel

-and the fears they have.

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-I think a lot of people think,

-"Why me?"

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-The risk factors

-are smoking and drinking.

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-My patient had never smoked,

-didn't drink much. Why me?

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-You're sitting in a room and you

-have no idea what to tell them.

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-If you're a good doctor...

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-..you have feelings...

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-..and you can feel the loss

-for the family.

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-You need to show

-some kind of humanity...

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-..because it's difficult.

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-If you can't,

-if you have no emotions...

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-..I don't think

-you're in the right job.

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-Neil agreed to a tube

-to help feed him...

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-..but since then, he's completed his

-treatment and made a full recovery.

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-Nina's chemotherapy

-treatment continues...

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-..in the hope that she will be able

-to spend more time with her family.

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