Episode 20 Eggheads

These people are amongst the greatest quiz players in Britain.

Together they make up the Eggheads,

arguably the most formidable quiz team in the country.

The question is, can they be beaten?

Welcome to Eggheads, the show where a team of five quiz challengers

pit their wits against possibly the greatest quiz team in Britain.

They are the Eggheads.

And challenging our resident quiz champions today

are Cream First from Devon.

Now, this team of quizzing friends take their name

from the age-old debate about which comes first in a cream tea,

the jam or the cream?

Well, I think they've made their position perfectly clear,

but the debate continues. Let's meet them.

Hi. I'm Julie. I'm 54,

and I'm a home school liaison officer.

Hello. I'm Dave. I'm 56, and I'm a branch manager.

Hello. I'm Denise.

I'm 58, and a secretary.

Hi. I'm John.

I'm 49 years old, and I'm a branch manager.

Hello. My name is Julie.

I'm 54, and I'm a teaching assistant.

Well, welcome to you, Cream First.

The jam or the cream? I've got a conundrum for you,

because I know people like a bit of butter on their scones as well.

So they go butter, jam, cream. What do you do in that situation?

That's if you come from Cornwall.

Oh, I see!

I'm surprised you're able to speak that name.

It is with some trepidation I say it.

OK. But a true Devonian, cream...

-Jam.

-That's enough. It's good enough.

-Because the cream's so wonderful?

-Absolutely.

Eggheads, where are you on this? I mean, it's the debate of our time.

-Too fattening for me.

-I'll go with them.

Cream first?

I lived in Cornwall, I'm sorry to say, for a long time.

They'll forgive you.

And did you put a bit of butter or did you go jam first?

No, I didn't put butter, that's going over the top.

I think you do have cream first.

Well, I-I don't know, you know, as I say, you're absolutist on that.

But there are others who will continue to add to the debate.

Perhaps it will continue during the course of Eggheads,

but we'll ask some trivial questions now,

having dealt with the big one.

Everyday there's £1,000 worth of cash up for grabs

for challengers. However, if they fail to defeat the Eggheads,

the prize money rolls over to the next show.

So, Cream First, the challengers actually won the last game,

and that proves it can be done

and means £1,000 says you can't beat the Eggheads.

And let's set about the task with our first head-to-head.

This one's Film & Television.

Which one of you would like to take this one on,

and challenge an Egghead?

-Film & Television.

-Me or you, Dave, isn't it?

-Yep.

That's you then, Dave.

-You go first.

-OK.

-OK, so who are we going to take on?

-Who do you want? Judith?

-Yep.

-Try Judith.

-Yeah, OK.

So, it's Dave from our team and he's going to challenge Judith.

OK, so it's going to be Dave from Cream First,

Judith from the Eggheads.

Could I ask you both please, then, to go to the Question Room?

That's, Dave, as you know, so you can't confer with your team-mates.

OK, then, Dave. Kicking off Cream First.

Would you like to go first or second in this Film & Television round?

I'd like to go first, please.

Best of luck to you, Dave. Here's your first question, then.

The final episode of the TV series Byker Grove

was originally broadcast in which year?

Right. This is not a programme I watched, to be honest.

I remember it being around. Erm... I don't think it's 2006.

I'll go with 2001.

It is later, it's 2006, the final broadcast of Byker Grove.

All right.

Judith, in which film did William Holden play the role

of a screenwriter called Joe Gillis?

Oh, I think that was, um... Sunset Boulevard.

Sunset Boulevard, with Joe Gillis. It's the right answer, yes.

Sunset Boulevard. So, you have a lead.

Dave, then, to score with this, we hope.

Dave, how many Oscars did the 1982 film Gandhi win?

Right. Obviously a large Oscar winner.

Erm, I don't think it was 12, too many.

-I think I'll go down the middle, with 10, please.

-10 Oscars for Gandhi.

-Eggheads, would you be on 10?

-I think 8.

8 from Kevin, which is the right answer. 8 Oscars for Gandhi.

Well, another blockbuster question for you, Judith.

Which British actor played the captain of the ship

in the 1997 blockbuster, Titanic?

Gosh, I've no idea. I did see it...

I don't remember the captain at all.

I don't remember him even appearing.

I don't think it was Michael Kitchen.

I-I don't know. Tom Wilkinson.

Tom Wilkinson?

It's not. It's Bernard Hill.

Bernard Hill, it was, on the deck there, of the Titanic.

So a reprieve, then, potentially, Dave.

To capitalise on it, you need to get a correct answer here.

Dave, who directed the 1975 film, The Rocky Horror Picture Show?

Right. Unfortunately, I don't know the answer.

Er...

Erm... Right.

It's going to be a guess, I'm afraid.

-So, it's Jim Sharman.

-Jim Sharman.

It is. You're still in it.

Getting on the board there. Fantastic.

OK, well, you've got to hope Judith doesn't score here. Judith...

In the TV series Star Trek: The Next Generation,

what is the role of Guinan,

the character played by Whoopi Goldberg?

What would Whoopi Goldberg be good at? Um...

I don't think she'd be a bartender somehow.

Eggheads hitting the deck?

-Er... I think she might be a firefighter.

-Firefighter.

You asked about Eggheads hitting the deck,

obviously before you answered, I'm not going to tell you,

but they were hitting the deck when you ruled out bartender,

which is the correct answer.

And it's a reprieve for Dave,

staring defeat in the face.

But you've stared back and taken us into Sudden Death.

And you don't see any more choices.

Dave, which World War II pilot was played by Kenneth More

in the 1956 film, Reach For The Sky?

Well, yes, um...

This was the pilot who lost his legs, as I remember.

Douglas Bader.

Yep, it's correct. Well done. Douglas Bay-der, Douglas Bah-der,

we'll take either pronunciation, because that's the guy.

And it means you've got to get this then, Judith.

Terry Gilliam and which other member of the Monty Python team

co-directed the film Monty Python And The Holy Grail?

-Um, I don't know. Michael Palin.

-Michael Palin.

Certainly a member.

But no, it was the two Terrys, it was Terry Gilliam and Terry Jones.

Now THAT is a turnaround.

Dave, looking very much dead in the water,

it must be said, after your first couple of answers,

revived and through to the final round.

Would you both please come back and join your teams?

Well, as it stands, the Eggheads missing one brain.

Cream First all there, and we move on to our next head-to-head.

The subject is Politics.

Who would like to take this one on? Politics.

THEY CONFER

-Is it me?

-Yes.

-I'm the lamb to the slaughter.

-Are you the lamb?

-I'm the lamb to the slaughter!

OK. Now, you stay with us, Julie. You've got to choose an Egghead.

-Julie, who do you fancy taking on?

-Should I take Pat?

I don't know Pat very well, but maybe Pat?

OK.

So it's going to be Julie from Cream First playing Pat from the Eggheads.

You can go to the Question Room now, please.

Well, Julie, very keen to play this, I know, are you keen to kick off?

-Do you want to go first or second?

-I'll go first, please, Dermot.

OK, good luck, Julie. It's Politics, and here's your first question.

Silvio Berlusconi was born in which year?

Silvio Berlusconi was born in which year?

Let me think about this a bit. Erm...

I don't think he's as old as to be born in 1936.

I'm going to go for 1958, cos I don't think he's that old.

-I could be wrong, though.

-He wishes. He's 1936, Julie.

Yeah, you see.

OK. How will Pat do with his first one?

Pat, MLA is the abbreviation for the members

of the legislative assembly of which part of the UK?

MLA is the abbreviation

for the members of the legislative assembly of which part of the UK?

I don't think it's Scotland. Could it be Wales?

I remember the Welsh Assembly,

I think it was called the Welsh Assembly.

Northern Ireland...

I'm puzzled by this.

I'll have to go for Northern Ireland,

but, er, not confident at all.

OK, not confident with the MLA. Eggheads?

It's right. Scotland is MSP and Wales is AM.

Yeah, it is the right answer, Pat. Got it. OK, Julie.

What was the first name of David Lloyd George's daughter,

who represented both the Liberal and the Labour parties

as an MP during her political career?

What was the first name of David Lloyd George's daughter,

who represented both the Liberal and the Labour parties as an MP

during her political career?

I'm afraid, again, I really haven't got any idea at all.

Erm...

Lloyd George, Myfanwy Lloyd George, Morwenna...George...

Megan... Erm...

I think I'm going to go for Morwenna.

It's just a complete guess.

OK, Morwenna, a guess at that,

and it's not the right answer.

No, it is Megan.

It is Megan who was David Lloyd George's daughter,

represented both the Liberal and Labour parties.

Well, this is the same position Dave was in,

and he managed to revive his chances.

But you go out if Pat gives me a correct answer here.

Pat, what is the main form of secondary legislation

in the UK that allows the Government

to make changes to the law without a new act of Parliament?

What's the main form of secondary legislation in the UK

that allows the Government to make changes to the law

without a new act of Parliament?

Erm... Well, one of those...

I think I've heard of statutory instruments.

-So I think I'll go with that.

-OK, heard of statutory instruments.

Yeah, the Eggheads like it.

It is the right answer,

so Julie won't like it because that means you've won the round.

No repeat there of Dave's Lazarus-like comeback.

Julie, you're not in the final round.

Would you both please come back and join your teams?

Well, the Eggheads in the form of Pat strike back.

It's now all square. Both teams have lost one brain from the final round.

And our next subject today is Food & Drink.

Who would like to play this? We've got one Julie left, Denise or John.

-It's definitely over to you.

-Is that me or not?

No, it's definitely me!

-You, Denise?

-I think I'd like to play Kevin.

-Yeah, Kevin, please.

-Kevin?! Now there's a turn up for the books.

He likes food and drink, doesn't he?

-Yeah, it's funny how that happens, isn't it? Yeah.

-Such a rarity.

-Yeah.

All righty, then, it's Denise and Kevin

heading for the Question Room, please.

So, Denise, have you been

doing a bit of studying of the Eggheads' frailties here,

picking Kevin to play this?

No, I haven't. I do a lot of baking at home, so I'm always entertaining.

-Um... I just love cooking.

-OK.

Well, let's put some of that knowledge to the test, we hope.

-Do you want to go first or second?

-Oh, I'll go first, please.

OK, good luck, Denise. Here we go.

Which term is used to refer to the process of gently heating vegetables

until the juices run?

Yes, I've had a good cry doing my onions plenty of times.

But this is going to be sweating.

Sweating is the right answer, yeah, well done.

OK.

Kevin, what name is given to a container with a perforated top

used for sprinkling items such as flour or icing sugar

during food preparation?

I think that's called dredging, so I assume it's a dredger.

It is a dredger. Yes.

Both negotiating their first question with great ease,

and a second one for you, Denise, then.

The small town of Jabugo in the Spanish province of Huelva

is particularly famous for which product?

Um, I don't really know. I haven't come across the name before. But...

..I'm going to choose ham.

Ham. We all know about the Spaniards and their hams,

particularly at Christmas. It is the right answer, well done.

And Kevin, what is the filling in a Chorley cake?

What's the filling in a Chorley cake?

No. Not sure I've come across that.

These little specialities from around the...

..around the country. Actually I think I probably have heard the term

Chorley cake at some stage, but what's actually in it...

A Chorley cake...

I don't, I mean, I'm going to start ruling them out,

so I'll rule out honey.

The other two seem more likely somehow.

Chorley cake. Lemon curd or...

I'll go for currants.

OK.

Currants. You are right, Kevin, yes.

I'm sure Denise would have liked that one.

It's all square then, still, and Denise, your third question.

Anya, Nadine and Nicola are three varieties

of which commonly grown foodstuff?

Yes, I know this one. Um...

I do grow vegetables in my garden.

-I will pick potato.

-Pick potatoes?

-Have you grown any of those varieties?

-No, I haven't.

OK, but definitely potatoes. Well done.

Well...

-Kevin under the cosh.

-Mm.

I'm suspecting I'm on a hiding to nothing here.

With that kind of knowledge, yes. Baking, growing her own veg.

And no slouch when it comes to the international side as well. Right,

well, let's concentrate on your question, Kevin.

The flat, square, skinless sausage known as Lorne sausage, L-O-R-N-E,

is often thought to have been named after a Scottish stage performer

of which type?

The flat, square, skinless sausage known as Lorne sausage

is often thought to have been named after a Scottish stage performer

of which type?

Hm.

-Not a clue.

-Oh.

So I'm assuming that that means it's somebody's name.

I'm trying to work out some kind of clue from the description of the...

I mean, I'm aware of Lorne sausage, yeah.

I didn't know the origin of it.

A performer of which type?

So I don't know whether that refers to an individual person

or to a particular kind of performer.

Erm...

I can't really get anything out of any connection.

Because it's flat, square and skinless,

which is not how you normally expect a sausage to be, I'll try magician.

OK. Right, yeah, flat, square and skinless.

It's comedian, Kevin. Comedian.

-Great news for Denise. Anyone know his first name?

-It's not Lorne?

No, that's his surname. Tommy. Tommy Lorne.

Right, well, we've sorted that one out. Let's concentrate on Denise.

What a performance! Sailing through there into the final round.

Didn't put a foot wrong. Would you both come back and join your teams?

Well, Cream First, doing well. Knocked two Eggheads now

out of the final round, and one member of your team gone.

What will be the line-up in the final round?

Well, it's going to be decided over this head-to-head,

our last head-to-head, it's Geography.

Who would like to play this from Julie or John? Geography.

John, are you going to go for it?

Um, it's probably better to leave you here, so I'll be going for it, yes.

Who are you going to choose?

-Who do you want to choose, John?

-Who's good on Geography?

Daphne and CJ are left, down the end there.

Will we go for CJ? Yeah, we'll go for CJ.

"Who's good at geography? Yeah, we'll go for the other one, then!"

OK. It's going to be John and CJ contesting this one.

Into the Question Room, both of you, please.

All right, John, do you want to go first or let CJ start?

Um, I'll go first, Dermot, please.

Let's get on with it. Our last head-to-head before the final round.

And John, this is your question.

Surfers Paradise is a coastal resort in which country?

Surfers Paradise is a coastal resort in which country?

-Surfers Paradise.

-Yeah.

I live next to the sea actually, in Devon, but I don't go surfing. Um...

But I would say, by the sound of it, I'm going to go for Australia.

Australia.

Yes, of course, surfing taking place in all those countries,

so many around the world of course,

in your own county, as you mentioned there.

It is Australia. It's the right answer.

CJ.

What is the official language of Yemen?

What is the official language of Yemen?

I assume it's Arabic.

It's the right answer, yes. Just pausing, I know, as an Egghead,

just double-checking. And next question for you, John.

Which type of rock, John,

forms the main underlying geology of the Yorkshire Wolds?

Which type of rock forms the main underlying geology

of the Yorkshire Wolds?

I don't know this question. I don't know the answer.

Um... I don't think it's granite, so I'll do away with granite.

That leaves marble or chalk.

I'm going to go for chalk.

Chalk. And right to do so.

Well done, John.

Didn't know it, but worked it out. Some kind of informed guess, anyway.

And puts CJ with this one. La Coruna and Ourense are provinces

within which autonomous Spanish region?

No. Sorry, we've got nothing to go on here.

Er...

I mean, I've heard of La Coruna, but that's about as far as it goes.

Um...

Well, I'm afraid I have nothing to go on,

so we're going to have a blind guess at Aragon.

Aragon, for La Coruna and Ourense.

Other Eggheads?

-Galicia.

-Galicia.

So, CJ said he didn't know it, didn't get it.

Well, you're in the final round

if you give the correct answer here, John.

What's the name of the mountain approximately 550 metres in height

that is the highest point of Hong Kong Island?

What's the name of the mountain approximately 550 metres in height

that is the highest point of Hong Kong Island? Ever been there?

No, I've not been to Hong Kong, and I'm not sure of the answer.

Um...

I'm trying to tie in Victoria or Elizabeth or Alexandra

into Hong Kong.

Um...

I'm going to go for Victoria Peak.

OK, Victoria Peak. On what reasoning, John?

Um, maybe something to do with Queen Victoria.

-Um, I really haven't got much of a reason, it's a bit of a guess.

-OK.

It's a good guess, it's the right answer. Victoria Peak is correct.

And you've toppled another Egghead.

You're going into the final round.

Would you both please come back and join your teams?

So, we've reached the point of no return.

It's time for the final round, which, as always,

is General Knowledge.

But I'm afraid those of you who lost your head-to-heads

won't be allowed to take part in this round. Julie from Cream First,

and Judith, Kevin and CJ from the Eggheads,

would you leave the studio, please?

So, then, Julie, Dave, Denise and John,

you're all playing to win Cream First £1,000.

Pat and Daphne, you're playing for something which money cannot buy.

It's the Eggheads' reputation. Which needs a bit of a brush-up, I think.

As usual, I'll ask each team three questions in turn.

This time the questions are all general knowledge,

and you are allowed to confer.

So, Julie, Dave, Denise and John, the question is,

are your four brains better than the Eggheads' two brains?

And, Cream First, would you like to go first or second?

We'll have to go first. Yes, we ought to.

We'll continue the run of good luck and go first, please.

Let's hope that luck holds out for this, the final round.

And Cream First, your first question is this.

Which Manchester United

and England footballer was nicknamed Captain Marvel?

-Bryan Robson.

-Which Manchester United

and England footballer was nicknamed Captain Marvel?

Bryan Robson. Definitely Bryan Robson.

-Bryan Robson?

-100%, Bryan Robson.

-100% sure?

I'm reliably informed that it's Bryan Robson.

100%. Captain Marvel, AKA Bryan Robson.

It's the right answer. Yes, well done.

Well, Pat and Daphne. OK, here you go, first question to you.

Flaminio Bertoni, born in 1903, was best known

for designing which products?

-I think he's a big car designer.

-Mmm-hmm, yeah.

I immediately thought cars.

I'm not 100%, but I think it's cars.

OK. Cars.

Cars for Bertoni...

is the right answer, Eggheads. Flaminio Bertoni.

So, Cream First, second question.

In the Middle Ages, what was a caltrop?

-DENISE:

-It doesn't sound like a hat, does it?

-JULIE:

-I thought it was a hat. I'm not 100% sure.

-I don't know.

I think sometimes

the answer you don't think it is, is probably the answer.

If we haven't heard of it, it's probably hat.

-DENISE:

-I haven't heard of it as a hat.

-JULIE:

-My gut reaction was it's a hat.

Yeah, that's more than I've got, so go with that.

-Have you got anything at all?

-No. If you've got that...

You've got that from somewhere - it's come from somewhere, hasn't it?

I quite like the weapon, that sounded quite good.

I'd give anything, really.

-DENISE:

-Go with your gut instinct.

-JULIE:

-Shall we for that?

-Go on, yeah.

As you can tell, we're not 100% sure on this one,

but we're going to go for floppy hat.

Floppy hat for a caltrop.

OK, let's see if the Eggheads know. Is it a floppy hat, a caltrop?

No, it's like a spike thing, you put it in the ground

and it used to bring down the horses.

So, it's the spiked metal weapon.

That's a caltrop, and not a floppy hat, for sure.

OK, well, a chance for the lead, then, Eggheads.

Alexander McCall Smith, the successful author

of The No. 1 Ladies' Detective Agency series of novels,

has followed which other prominent career?

I think he's a law professor.

-I think he's particularly interested in medical ethics.

-Yeah.

So if doctor had been up there, I'd have had trouble.

-He's certainly not a chief constable.

-No.

-He lectures at Edinburgh.

-At Edinburgh, on ethics, I think.

Yeah, I would say law.

I don't think it's a dental surgeon.

Dental surgeon is a bit medical, isn't it?

I think the law side is more promising than the medical side.

What do you think, do we go for law rather than dentistry?

Yeah, I think so.

-Right, Dermot. Law professor.

-Law professor.

Bit of a toss-up there between the medical side and the legal side.

You've got the right side, law professor.

So, it means you need to get this, Cream First.

Dora and Little Hans were famous case studies by which psychoanalyst?

-Anybody got anything to offer?

-No.

I've only heard of two of them.

Jung and Freud.

-I've never heard of the other guy.

-Which one shall we plump for, then?

-I'd go for Freud.

-We're guessing.

-JULIE:

-What do you think?

-DENISE:

-It's a bit obvious, cos it's the one everybody knows.

So, yeah, could not be.

-Take our chance?

-I'd go with Freud.

We'll go with Freud, Dermot.

A guess. It's the right answer.

Dora and Little Hans. You are still in it.

But just powerless to stop the Eggheads winning

if they get this right.

Hoping they don't for you.

OK, Eggheads, in the USA, who was chairman of the Fed,

or Federal Reserve Board, between 1987 and 2006?

In the USA, who was chairman of the Fed, or Federal Reserve Board,

between 1987 and 2006?

Alan Greenspan.

Rubin was the Treasury Secretary for Clinton.

And James Baker was the Secretary of State for one of the Bushes.

-I think it's Alan Greenspan.

-Yeah. I know it!

It is Alan Greenspan.

No talking you out of it, either.

It is the right answer, Eggheads, you've won.

Well, well done, Eggheads, but well done, Cream First,

because, of course, in terms of rounds there, you beat them 3-2.

Just didn't get them in the final round, but no matter.

Great quizzing from you lot here today.

Thank you very much indeed

for clearing up the question of the age -

cream first, we will carry that with us forevermore.

Thank you very much again for playing the Eggheads.

They've done what comes naturally to them,

and they reign supreme over quizland once again.

I'm afraid you won't be going home with £1,000,

and that means the money rolls over to the next show.

Eggheads, congratulations. Who will beat you?

Join us next time to see

if a new team of challengers have the brains to defeat the Eggheads.

£2,000 says they don't. Until then, goodbye.

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