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-Otopeni Airport, Bucharest, 1989 | 0:00:01 | 0:00:06 | |
-Two days after Christmas Day, -1989... | 0:00:07 | 0:00:10 | |
-..an aeroplane -leaves Bucharest airport. | 0:00:11 | 0:00:14 | |
-Aboard are a crew of six -and one passenger... | 0:00:16 | 0:00:20 | |
-..a young Welsh photographer, -Ian Parry. | 0:00:20 | 0:00:24 | |
-PILOT ANNOUNCEMENT | 0:00:24 | 0:00:26 | |
-Ready for take off. | 0:00:26 | 0:00:28 | |
-It was the first flight out -of Romania for a month... | 0:00:31 | 0:00:35 | |
-..since the historical events -that shook the country to its core. | 0:00:35 | 0:00:40 | |
-The revolution reached -a bloody climax in late 1989. | 0:00:40 | 0:00:44 | |
-More than one thousand -were killed in Bucharest... | 0:00:45 | 0:00:48 | |
-..as Nicolae Ceausescu's -communist regime was toppled. | 0:00:49 | 0:00:53 | |
-Ian Parry, a Welsh photographer, -was working for The Sunday Times. | 0:00:57 | 0:01:03 | |
-He was determined to record -this historical event. | 0:01:03 | 0:01:07 | |
-He was returning to London -with rare photographs... | 0:01:08 | 0:01:11 | |
-..for the Fleet Street newspapers. | 0:01:12 | 0:01:15 | |
-The aeroplane -didn't reach its destination. | 0:01:16 | 0:01:20 | |
-Ian Parry and the crew -were killed in a remote forest. | 0:01:53 | 0:01:58 | |
-The official explanation -was ice on the wings. | 0:02:02 | 0:02:08 | |
-It couldn't have been bad weather. -It did not make any sense. | 0:02:09 | 0:02:12 | |
-Rumours circled from the start... | 0:02:13 | 0:02:15 | |
-..that the photographer -was murdered... | 0:02:16 | 0:02:19 | |
-..to prevent photographs of -the revolution and war crimes... | 0:02:19 | 0:02:23 | |
-..from reaching the world. | 0:02:23 | 0:02:25 | |
-If the plane was shot down, -it's murder, plain and simple. | 0:02:26 | 0:02:28 | |
-Murder is murder, however long ago. | 0:02:29 | 0:02:32 | |
-If the culprits are alive, -they should be punished. | 0:02:33 | 0:02:37 | |
-The journalist and former political -correspondent, John Stevenson... | 0:02:40 | 0:02:45 | |
-..is on a journey back -to Romania's dark days. | 0:02:46 | 0:02:49 | |
-He hopes to answer the question that -remains unanswered after 25 years. | 0:02:49 | 0:02:55 | |
-Subtitles | 0:03:02 | 0:03:04 | |
-# CEAUSESCU'S FINAL SPEECH # | 0:03:27 | 0:03:31 | |
-I've been interested in Romania -for decades. | 0:03:36 | 0:03:40 | |
-As a political correspondent... | 0:03:41 | 0:03:43 | |
-..I was fascinated -by the country's politics. | 0:03:43 | 0:03:47 | |
-The revolution -that toppled Ceausescu... | 0:03:47 | 0:03:51 | |
-..took place 25 years ago. | 0:03:52 | 0:03:55 | |
-But his presence still -casts shadows over the country. | 0:03:55 | 0:03:59 | |
-To face -the future with confidence... | 0:04:00 | 0:04:04 | |
-..the people -and politicians of Romania... | 0:04:04 | 0:04:08 | |
-..must face events -they chose to forget. | 0:04:08 | 0:04:12 | |
-It's a murky past. | 0:04:13 | 0:04:16 | |
-Any journalist worth his salt... | 0:04:22 | 0:04:25 | |
-..is inquisitive and nosy. | 0:04:25 | 0:04:28 | |
-I've been aware of Ian Parry's story -for a long time. | 0:04:29 | 0:04:34 | |
-This is the first chance I've had -to get to the bottom of the story... | 0:04:34 | 0:04:39 | |
-..to understand what -and why it happened. | 0:04:39 | 0:04:43 | |
-Why was Ian Parry from Prestatyn -killed in a forest so far from home? | 0:04:43 | 0:04:49 | |
-Shortly after Ian Parry's death -at 24 years of age... | 0:04:52 | 0:04:56 | |
-..The Ian Parry Scholarship -was set up in his memory. | 0:04:56 | 0:05:00 | |
-It's an annual competition -for young photographers. | 0:05:01 | 0:05:05 | |
-This is adjudication day. | 0:05:05 | 0:05:08 | |
-I'm going to London -to meet people who knew Ian Parry. | 0:05:09 | 0:05:14 | |
-I hope to get to know the man. | 0:05:15 | 0:05:18 | |
-London's Frontline Club -was formed... | 0:05:25 | 0:05:29 | |
-..after the fall of the Iron Curtain -and the 1989 Romanian Revolution. | 0:05:29 | 0:05:34 | |
-It's a haunt for people -who believe in press freedom... | 0:05:39 | 0:05:44 | |
-..and who report -from areas of conflict. | 0:05:44 | 0:05:48 | |
-It's also a place to remember -and honour fallen colleagues. | 0:05:48 | 0:05:53 | |
-I have to say, -with these nine finalists... | 0:05:55 | 0:05:58 | |
-Prominent British -photojournalists... | 0:05:59 | 0:06:02 | |
-..some who knew -Ian Parry personally... | 0:06:02 | 0:06:05 | |
-..award the prize in his memory. | 0:06:05 | 0:06:09 | |
-Great story. -The pictures aren't very strong. | 0:06:10 | 0:06:13 | |
-We're down to the last nine -of a major award. | 0:06:13 | 0:06:16 | |
-We're looking for the kind -of future photographer... | 0:06:17 | 0:06:20 | |
-..that has the skill -to do good documentary work. | 0:06:21 | 0:06:24 | |
-Somebody who has a special eye... | 0:06:24 | 0:06:27 | |
-..who can bring the drama -and the story in photographs. | 0:06:27 | 0:06:31 | |
-That's an interesting picture. -It shows tension in the human body. | 0:06:31 | 0:06:36 | |
-When you're a young man and you -haven't been published very much... | 0:06:36 | 0:06:40 | |
-..to see your name -under a publication... | 0:06:40 | 0:06:42 | |
-..is better than any amount of pay -that someone would give you. | 0:06:43 | 0:06:47 | |
-It's a procedure of growing and -growing and building a reputation. | 0:06:47 | 0:06:52 | |
-Sadly for Ian Parry, he was only -on the first rung of the ladder. | 0:06:53 | 0:06:57 | |
-He would have been one of the top -photojournalists in the world. | 0:06:57 | 0:07:02 | |
-Ian was a young rising star -in Fleet Street at the time. | 0:07:02 | 0:07:06 | |
-I was older, more experienced. | 0:07:06 | 0:07:09 | |
-We hadn't spent -a lot of time together... | 0:07:10 | 0:07:12 | |
-..until -the Romanian Revolution happened. | 0:07:12 | 0:07:15 | |
-I'd heard of him... | 0:07:16 | 0:07:17 | |
-..and the fact -he was there for the Sunday Times... | 0:07:17 | 0:07:21 | |
-..showed the confidence that -they had in a photographer so young. | 0:07:21 | 0:07:25 | |
-He was a wonderful guy, very -generous. He was a great talent. | 0:07:26 | 0:07:30 | |
-He was proud -of the fact that at his young age... | 0:07:30 | 0:07:33 | |
-..he was already working -for a pre-eminent Sunday newspaper. | 0:07:33 | 0:07:37 | |
-The Leader Offices, Mold | 0:07:37 | 0:07:41 | |
-Ian Parry's career -began closer to home... | 0:07:41 | 0:07:45 | |
-..as an apprentice photographer -on The Leader in North Wales. | 0:07:46 | 0:07:50 | |
-He learned his craft alongside -people who remember him as a friend. | 0:07:51 | 0:07:55 | |
-Ian and I worked well together. | 0:07:57 | 0:08:00 | |
-We were more than colleagues. -We were friends. | 0:08:00 | 0:08:04 | |
-It was a huge story for The Leader. -Here we are. | 0:08:04 | 0:08:08 | |
-This is the story of his death -on the front page. | 0:08:10 | 0:08:14 | |
-People clamoured -to pay tribute to him... | 0:08:16 | 0:08:20 | |
-..people like Kate Adie... | 0:08:21 | 0:08:23 | |
-..who had worked with him -in another part of the world. | 0:08:24 | 0:08:28 | |
-Everybody liked Ian. | 0:08:28 | 0:08:30 | |
-He was a young man, -full of enthusiasm. | 0:08:30 | 0:08:34 | |
-He was ambitious and talented. | 0:08:35 | 0:08:38 | |
-To think that someone like that -lost his life so violently... | 0:08:39 | 0:08:43 | |
-..is horrific. | 0:08:44 | 0:08:46 | |
-His work on The Leader -was always first class. | 0:08:48 | 0:08:51 | |
-One photo stands out. -This little girl is Katy Green. | 0:08:52 | 0:08:57 | |
-She suffered from a sun allergy. | 0:08:57 | 0:09:00 | |
-Ian took a fantastic shot of her -on her first day in nursery school. | 0:09:01 | 0:09:06 | |
-It was great for The Leader. | 0:09:06 | 0:09:08 | |
-It made the front page -of The Daily Mirror. | 0:09:08 | 0:09:12 | |
-That was just before -Ian left for London. | 0:09:12 | 0:09:16 | |
-That was Ian's way of announcing -to Fleet Street he was on his way. | 0:09:16 | 0:09:21 | |
-He came to see me -at The Sunday Times. | 0:09:21 | 0:09:24 | |
-It's not always -about the photographs. | 0:09:24 | 0:09:26 | |
-You get a sense of whether -somebody at that early age... | 0:09:26 | 0:09:29 | |
-..is going to be able -to come through all this and grow. | 0:09:29 | 0:09:33 | |
-I really felt, all of us felt, -Ian was one of those people. | 0:09:33 | 0:09:37 | |
-He was one of those young, -determined photographers... | 0:09:38 | 0:09:42 | |
-..who just knew he would dedicate -his life to photojournalism. | 0:09:42 | 0:09:47 | |
-He didn't want to do anything else. | 0:09:47 | 0:09:50 | |
-Henri Coanda Airport, Bucharest | 0:09:51 | 0:09:57 | |
-AIR CONTROL | 0:10:00 | 0:10:03 | |
-Bucharest airport -has changed its name. | 0:10:16 | 0:10:19 | |
-But the building itself -hasn't changed at all. | 0:10:19 | 0:10:23 | |
-It's very sad to think... | 0:10:24 | 0:10:26 | |
-..about all the people who -came here, fleeing for their lives. | 0:10:26 | 0:10:32 | |
-Romania was -in the throes of a revolution. | 0:10:32 | 0:10:35 | |
-The army and secret police shot -people on the streets of Bucharest. | 0:10:36 | 0:10:41 | |
-They shot their own citizens, -their fellow Romanians. | 0:10:41 | 0:10:46 | |
-Ian Parry was following the story. | 0:10:47 | 0:10:51 | |
-As a photojournalist, he felt -it was his professional duty... | 0:10:51 | 0:10:57 | |
-..to show the world -what was happening in Bucharest. | 0:10:57 | 0:11:01 | |
-He begged his editor on -The Sunday Times to let him go. | 0:11:01 | 0:11:06 | |
-He decided -that's where the story was. | 0:11:06 | 0:11:09 | |
-He wanted to show the world -what was happening. | 0:11:09 | 0:11:15 | |
-Ian was very, very keen -to get over there. | 0:11:16 | 0:11:18 | |
-A part of me said, -you're not quite ready for this. | 0:11:19 | 0:11:22 | |
-But because we had -senior photographers going... | 0:11:22 | 0:11:25 | |
-..I felt, "Come on, -he really wants to do this. | 0:11:26 | 0:11:29 | |
-"You went to Afghanistan. -Why would I not allow him to go?" | 0:11:29 | 0:11:34 | |
-He was young, single -and this is what he wanted to do. | 0:11:34 | 0:11:37 | |
-Quite frankly, -I couldn't stop him, anyway. | 0:11:38 | 0:11:41 | |
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-In late 1989, -during the Romanian Revolution... | 0:12:07 | 0:12:10 | |
-..Ian Parry, a young Welsh -photographer, was killed. | 0:12:10 | 0:12:15 | |
-It was described as an accident. | 0:12:20 | 0:12:23 | |
-But there are doubts -if it was a deliberate decision... | 0:12:23 | 0:12:27 | |
-..to prevent the world from seeing -images of the revolution. | 0:12:27 | 0:12:33 | |
-Journalist John Stevenson -is following the story... | 0:12:34 | 0:12:38 | |
-..to find the truth -about Romania's murky past. | 0:12:38 | 0:12:42 | |
-Former Headquarters -of the Communist Party | 0:12:59 | 0:13:03 | |
-The old Communist Party headquarters -is central to the story. | 0:13:03 | 0:13:07 | |
-They are now government offices. | 0:13:07 | 0:13:10 | |
-Nicolae Ceausescu delivered -his final speech on this balcony... | 0:13:10 | 0:13:14 | |
-..to reassure the people -and to hold on to power. | 0:13:15 | 0:13:18 | |
-# CEAUSESCU'S FINAL SPEECH # | 0:13:19 | 0:13:24 | |
-I've seen this balcony -hundreds of times. | 0:13:36 | 0:13:39 | |
-The pictures are on YouTube. | 0:13:39 | 0:13:42 | |
-I remember -watching the events unfold. | 0:13:42 | 0:13:45 | |
-To think I'm standing -exactly where Ceausescu stood... | 0:13:46 | 0:13:51 | |
-..is unbelievable. | 0:13:51 | 0:13:53 | |
-Four days after that appearance... | 0:13:54 | 0:13:57 | |
-..Nicolae Ceausescu -and his wife Elena were executed... | 0:13:57 | 0:14:02 | |
-..on the orders of the new regime. | 0:14:02 | 0:14:05 | |
-The balcony is central -to Ian Parry's story. | 0:14:05 | 0:14:09 | |
-There are very few photographs -of Ian in Bucharest. | 0:14:10 | 0:14:14 | |
-He was a photographer. | 0:14:14 | 0:14:16 | |
-He wasn't going to take -a picture of himself! | 0:14:16 | 0:14:20 | |
-Most of the photos were destroyed -in the airplane crash. | 0:14:20 | 0:14:25 | |
-But there is one crucial photo -that's linked to this balcony. | 0:14:25 | 0:14:30 | |
-It was the headquarters -of the Communist Party. | 0:14:31 | 0:14:35 | |
-We see Ian -and a number of protestors... | 0:14:35 | 0:14:40 | |
-..standing in the corner. | 0:14:40 | 0:14:43 | |
-Imagine the chaos. | 0:14:43 | 0:14:46 | |
-Young people had -stormed the building. | 0:14:46 | 0:14:49 | |
-Ian was taking pictures, -which he loved doing. | 0:14:49 | 0:14:53 | |
-Looking at this photograph... | 0:14:54 | 0:14:57 | |
-..my hand is exactly -where his foot was. | 0:14:58 | 0:15:03 | |
-Thinking about that -is absolutely chilling. | 0:15:03 | 0:15:07 | |
-Two days -after Ceausescu's execution... | 0:15:09 | 0:15:13 | |
-..Ian Parry was also dead. | 0:15:13 | 0:15:16 | |
-Tom Stoddart, his friend and fellow -photographer, was also in Romania. | 0:15:22 | 0:15:28 | |
-The whole world was looking at that -revolution. It was the place to be. | 0:15:28 | 0:15:33 | |
-When I was working -and Ian was there... | 0:15:34 | 0:15:37 | |
-..it was very much -about working on the streets. | 0:15:37 | 0:15:39 | |
-There was heavy fighting. -People were being shot. | 0:15:40 | 0:15:42 | |
-The thing was to get -as many pictures as you could... | 0:15:43 | 0:15:46 | |
-..in a short space of time... | 0:15:46 | 0:15:48 | |
-..and to try and survive the sniping -which was going on all the time. | 0:15:49 | 0:15:54 | |
-University Square, Bucharest | 0:15:54 | 0:15:58 | |
-This is University Square. | 0:16:02 | 0:16:04 | |
-This was the boiling cauldron -of the revolution... | 0:16:05 | 0:16:09 | |
-..the focal point of -the rebellion against Ceausescu. | 0:16:09 | 0:16:15 | |
-You can see how busy it is. -It would have been chaotic then. | 0:16:16 | 0:16:20 | |
-The only place where journalists -could get peace and quiet... | 0:16:21 | 0:16:26 | |
-..as well as safety, was the -Intercontinental Hotel behind me. | 0:16:26 | 0:16:31 | |
-Like the majority of journalists -and photojournalists... | 0:16:36 | 0:16:41 | |
-..the Intercontinental Hotel -was Ian Parry's home in Bucharest. | 0:16:41 | 0:16:45 | |
-This is where he spent -his last night. | 0:16:46 | 0:16:48 | |
-He insisted on buying supper -for his friends... | 0:16:49 | 0:16:52 | |
-..before leaving in the morning. | 0:16:52 | 0:16:55 | |
-Tom Stoddart -remembers the time clearly. | 0:17:01 | 0:17:04 | |
-A major problem was to get -your pictures back to the office. | 0:17:04 | 0:17:09 | |
-There was wire machines running 24 -hours a day transmitting pictures. | 0:17:09 | 0:17:14 | |
-We couldn't get a line out. -We had no development facilities. | 0:17:14 | 0:17:17 | |
-Ian came to me and he said... | 0:17:18 | 0:17:20 | |
-"..I've heard there's -a plane leaving in the morning." | 0:17:20 | 0:17:24 | |
-I said, -"Surely that's not possible." | 0:17:24 | 0:17:26 | |
-Nothing was flying. The situation -was still fraught with danger. | 0:17:27 | 0:17:31 | |
-I said to him, -he was young and inexperienced... | 0:17:31 | 0:17:34 | |
-"..OK, don't tell anybody -about this. | 0:17:34 | 0:17:37 | |
-"If it's true, we can get -an edge on our competition... | 0:17:37 | 0:17:41 | |
-"..from the French agencies -and the American photographers. | 0:17:42 | 0:17:46 | |
-"We can get our film out." | 0:17:46 | 0:17:48 | |
-We agreed to meet at the hotel. | 0:17:53 | 0:17:56 | |
-There were other -photographers there. | 0:17:56 | 0:17:59 | |
-We made our packets up... | 0:17:59 | 0:18:02 | |
-..labelled the film -and drank whisky. | 0:18:02 | 0:18:05 | |
-We went to bed and he was going off -very early in the morning... | 0:18:05 | 0:18:09 | |
-..to get on this flight that none -of us thought would take off. | 0:18:10 | 0:18:14 | |
-Unfortunately, it did take off. | 0:18:14 | 0:18:17 | |
-It sadly came down, carrying Ian, -as the only passenger... | 0:18:17 | 0:18:21 | |
-..and all the film with it. | 0:18:22 | 0:18:24 | |
-Tarom Aero 2524 was flying -on a humanitarian mission... | 0:18:29 | 0:18:33 | |
-..to pick up blood from Belgrade -for the casualties of the fighting. | 0:18:34 | 0:18:40 | |
-Ian Parry saw his chance to get -the photographs out of the country. | 0:18:40 | 0:18:45 | |
-Twelve minutes after take off... | 0:18:45 | 0:18:48 | |
-..the crew of six Romanians and -the Welsh photographer were dead. | 0:18:48 | 0:18:53 | |
-According to the authorities, -it was an accident... | 0:18:53 | 0:18:58 | |
-..caused by ice on the wings. | 0:18:58 | 0:19:00 | |
-But even in the early days, -there were doubts. | 0:19:01 | 0:19:04 | |
-Romania was known as Rumourmania. | 0:19:05 | 0:19:08 | |
-All through that revolution... | 0:19:08 | 0:19:11 | |
-..we'd hear dozens of different -versions of any story. | 0:19:12 | 0:19:15 | |
-There were rumours -flying about everything. | 0:19:16 | 0:19:18 | |
-Eye-witnesses had seen -a ball of flame in the sky. | 0:19:18 | 0:19:22 | |
-They saw clearly the plane -had been attacked in some way. | 0:19:22 | 0:19:26 | |
-I heard a rumour that the secret -police had contaminated the fuel... | 0:19:26 | 0:19:30 | |
-..of grounded aircraft... | 0:19:30 | 0:19:32 | |
-..so that nothing could take off, -and if it did it would crash. | 0:19:32 | 0:19:34 | |
-The official report was ridiculous. -It didn't seem to make any sense. | 0:19:35 | 0:19:39 | |
-Everybody who saw the aircraft -thought it had been shot down. | 0:19:40 | 0:19:44 | |
-That's what I always believed. | 0:19:45 | 0:19:47 | |
-The official report, which -I was always really stunned by... | 0:19:47 | 0:19:49 | |
-..was that it had -crashed in bad weather. | 0:19:49 | 0:19:52 | |
-It would seem to be -no further explanation than that. | 0:19:52 | 0:19:55 | |
-It didn't seem to resonate at all. | 0:19:55 | 0:19:57 | |
-Even though eyewitnesses insisted -the aeroplane was shot down... | 0:19:59 | 0:20:03 | |
-..Romanian authorities were -reluctant to investigate further. | 0:20:03 | 0:20:08 | |
-Despite the suggestion in a 1993 -report that the plane was hit... | 0:20:09 | 0:20:14 | |
-..the event was forgotten, -until recently... | 0:20:14 | 0:20:18 | |
-..when a documentary -was broadcast on Romanian TV. | 0:20:19 | 0:20:23 | |
-SPEAKS ROMANIAN | 0:20:24 | 0:20:27 | |
-I was investigating another plane -crash when I first heard the story. | 0:20:31 | 0:20:36 | |
-My attention -was drawn to this story... | 0:20:37 | 0:20:41 | |
-..because it happened -during the revolution. | 0:20:41 | 0:20:44 | |
-It was an eye-opener for me. | 0:20:48 | 0:20:51 | |
-It had happened during my lifetime -and I knew nothing about it. | 0:20:51 | 0:20:56 | |
-My curiosity grew even more... | 0:20:57 | 0:21:00 | |
-..when my father told me I -shouldn't talk about these things. | 0:21:01 | 0:21:06 | |
-I was determined -to find out the truth... | 0:21:07 | 0:21:10 | |
-..and why, after 25 years, we -are not supposed to talk about it. | 0:21:10 | 0:21:15 | |
-That was the starting point. | 0:21:15 | 0:21:18 | |
-The programme claimed the aeroplane -was shot down by a missile... | 0:21:21 | 0:21:26 | |
-..authorized by the regime -that toppled Ceausescu. | 0:21:29 | 0:21:34 | |
-The leader was Ion Iliescu. | 0:21:34 | 0:21:37 | |
-It was a deliberate act... | 0:21:38 | 0:21:40 | |
-..to prevent images -of the new regime's war crimes... | 0:21:40 | 0:21:44 | |
-..from appearing -in the world press. | 0:21:44 | 0:21:47 | |
-These are the pictures -that Ian Parry had on him. | 0:21:48 | 0:21:52 | |
-The programme also claimed that -official documents were changed... | 0:21:52 | 0:21:57 | |
-..to hide the truth. | 0:21:58 | 0:22:00 | |
-There is an unexpected piece of -evidence in the Antena 3 offices. | 0:22:03 | 0:22:08 | |
-It offers a vivid picture -of what happened in 1989... | 0:22:08 | 0:22:12 | |
-..and reveals -the authorities' response. | 0:22:13 | 0:22:16 | |
-SPEAKS ROMANIAN | 0:22:17 | 0:22:19 | |
-It might be hard to believe... | 0:22:22 | 0:22:25 | |
-..but this is a part -of the aeroplane itself... | 0:22:25 | 0:22:29 | |
-..from Vistina forest, 1989. | 0:22:29 | 0:22:32 | |
-I came across this in the forest. -I didn't know what it was. | 0:22:32 | 0:22:37 | |
-When I picked it up off the ground, -I saw something red and yellow. | 0:22:43 | 0:22:48 | |
-I knew straightaway it was -the Romania banner during Communism. | 0:22:49 | 0:22:54 | |
-I took it to experts. | 0:22:54 | 0:22:56 | |
-I wanted to be sure -it was a piece of the aeroplane. | 0:22:56 | 0:23:00 | |
-They confirmed that it was... | 0:23:00 | 0:23:05 | |
-..a fragment of the aeroplane -that came down in December 1989. | 0:23:06 | 0:23:10 | |
-You found this fragment -at the scene of the crash. | 0:23:11 | 0:23:16 | |
-What was it like being there? | 0:23:17 | 0:23:20 | |
-How did it feel to find -a piece of the aeroplane? | 0:23:20 | 0:23:24 | |
-It was a huge shock to me. | 0:23:29 | 0:23:32 | |
-I never imagined I'd find a part -of the wreckage of the crash... | 0:23:32 | 0:23:36 | |
-..that happened 25 years ago. | 0:23:36 | 0:23:39 | |
-I was very disappointed. | 0:23:39 | 0:23:41 | |
-It was a sign of how -the authorities worked at the time. | 0:23:42 | 0:23:47 | |
-Most eyewitnesses said that soldiers -arrived very soon after the crash. | 0:23:49 | 0:23:54 | |
-They were more interested... | 0:23:55 | 0:23:57 | |
-..in gathering pieces of photos and -boxes carried by the travellers... | 0:23:57 | 0:24:03 | |
-..than the people themselves. | 0:24:03 | 0:24:06 | |
-In the forest now, -there are two large holes... | 0:24:06 | 0:24:10 | |
-..and many items -left after the accident. | 0:24:10 | 0:24:13 | |
-John Stevenson's journey has -taken him from Wales to London... | 0:24:20 | 0:24:25 | |
-..and then Bucharest. | 0:24:25 | 0:24:27 | |
-Parts of the story -are coming together. | 0:24:27 | 0:24:30 | |
-The next step of the journey -takes him out of the capital... | 0:24:30 | 0:24:34 | |
-..and face to face with the past. | 0:24:35 | 0:24:38 | |
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-Trying to find the truth... | 0:24:47 | 0:24:49 | |
-..about Ian Parry's death -in the 1989 Romanian Revolution... | 0:24:49 | 0:24:53 | |
-..has taken journalist -John Stevenson to places... | 0:24:54 | 0:24:58 | |
-..that were significant -in the photographer's life. | 0:24:58 | 0:25:02 | |
-He also heard blunt claims -that it was a plot... | 0:25:02 | 0:25:05 | |
-..by the authorities at that time. | 0:25:06 | 0:25:08 | |
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-The next step of the journey... | 0:25:13 | 0:25:15 | |
-..brings him face to face -with the truth about what happened. | 0:25:16 | 0:25:20 | |
-Before going to the site of -the disaster where Ian Parry died... | 0:25:32 | 0:25:36 | |
-..John Stevenson wants -to visit Ghencea Cemetery. | 0:25:37 | 0:25:40 | |
-Many of the 1,000 people killed in -Bucharest alone are buried here... | 0:25:40 | 0:25:45 | |
-..including a leading -historical figure. | 0:25:46 | 0:25:50 | |
-It was a shock to see -the Orthodox cemetery. | 0:25:50 | 0:25:54 | |
-Orthodoxy is the religion -of most Romanians. | 0:25:54 | 0:25:59 | |
-It's ironic, because Ceausescu was a -communist and therefore an atheist. | 0:25:59 | 0:26:05 | |
-The last place -I expected him to be buried... | 0:26:05 | 0:26:09 | |
-..was in an Orthodox cemetery. | 0:26:09 | 0:26:12 | |
-The family paid -for the grandiose tomb. | 0:26:12 | 0:26:16 | |
-Romanians still come here. | 0:26:17 | 0:26:19 | |
-These are fresh flowers. | 0:26:20 | 0:26:23 | |
-There is still -respect for Ceausescu. | 0:26:26 | 0:26:30 | |
-The flowers have been placed -by Luminita and Mihai Arvunescu. | 0:26:31 | 0:26:36 | |
-But the other ribbon -greatly surprised me. | 0:26:39 | 0:26:43 | |
-Sincere regrete. | 0:26:45 | 0:26:47 | |
-Sincerest regrets. | 0:26:47 | 0:26:49 | |
-Regrets about what? | 0:26:49 | 0:26:51 | |
-Regrets that he died? | 0:26:52 | 0:26:54 | |
-Regrets at the way he died? | 0:26:55 | 0:26:57 | |
-Regrets about what he did? | 0:26:57 | 0:26:59 | |
-That raises all kinds of questions. | 0:26:59 | 0:27:02 | |
-It's all surprising. | 0:27:03 | 0:27:05 | |
-The cemetery is totally different -from anything in Wales. | 0:27:05 | 0:27:10 | |
-Ceausescu's grave -is the last thing I expected. | 0:27:12 | 0:27:16 | |
-It's a shock... | 0:27:18 | 0:27:20 | |
-..to see so much grandeur -for a man who was toppled... | 0:27:21 | 0:27:26 | |
-..in a very bloody uprising. | 0:27:28 | 0:27:31 | |
-We're on our way to the site of -the accident, if it was an accident. | 0:27:43 | 0:27:49 | |
-It's a strange experience, -being close to the forest. | 0:27:50 | 0:27:55 | |
-My hope is to find something... | 0:27:56 | 0:27:58 | |
-..or speak to someone... | 0:27:59 | 0:28:01 | |
-..who can throw some light -on what happened that day... | 0:28:02 | 0:28:07 | |
-..and throw light -on what happened afterwards... | 0:28:07 | 0:28:10 | |
-..in the investigation -into the accident. | 0:28:11 | 0:28:15 | |
-I hear myself saying -"accident" all the time. | 0:28:15 | 0:28:20 | |
-There is great uncertainty -about whether it was an accident. | 0:28:21 | 0:28:26 | |
-My instinct tells me -there is much more to the story... | 0:28:27 | 0:28:32 | |
-..than what has so far -come to light... | 0:28:32 | 0:28:35 | |
-..and what was acknowledged -by the authorities. | 0:28:35 | 0:28:38 | |
-Near Malinoasa Forest, -John is called to Vistina. | 0:28:40 | 0:28:45 | |
-Several eyewitnesses -want to describe what they saw. | 0:28:45 | 0:28:50 | |
-SPEAKS ROMANIAN | 0:28:50 | 0:28:51 | |
-Buna ziua. | 0:28:54 | 0:28:55 | |
-Here's Mr John and his crew. | 0:28:58 | 0:29:00 | |
-I lived in a house in the forest. | 0:29:02 | 0:29:04 | |
-I had a great shock when the windows -were smashed by a loud noise. | 0:29:05 | 0:29:10 | |
-The plane was passing above -a few cottages when it came down. | 0:29:11 | 0:29:15 | |
-It was in two parts, with a huge -flame coming out of the tail. | 0:29:15 | 0:29:20 | |
-In 15 minutes, helicopters arrived. | 0:29:23 | 0:29:26 | |
-Soon after, policemen and soldiers -came and shut down the whole area. | 0:29:26 | 0:29:31 | |
-I was familiar with the forest. -I stayed to see what was going on. | 0:29:31 | 0:29:36 | |
-I have a clear memory -of body parts everywhere... | 0:29:36 | 0:29:40 | |
-..and trees cut in half. | 0:29:41 | 0:29:43 | |
-Was it an accident -or was the plane shot down? | 0:29:43 | 0:29:47 | |
-SPEAKS ROMANIAN | 0:29:47 | 0:29:48 | |
-No, he didn't believe -that it was an accident... | 0:29:57 | 0:30:02 | |
-..or bad weather. | 0:30:02 | 0:30:04 | |
-He saw the big flame. | 0:30:04 | 0:30:06 | |
-He was still sure... | 0:30:07 | 0:30:08 | |
-..that it was crashed by something. | 0:30:09 | 0:30:12 | |
-Vistina is the closest community -to the site of the disaster. | 0:30:14 | 0:30:19 | |
-It is still very vivid -in the villagers' memories. | 0:30:19 | 0:30:23 | |
-They have a definite opinion -about the event. | 0:30:23 | 0:30:27 | |
-I heard a loud noise as the plane -flew low over the house... | 0:30:28 | 0:30:32 | |
-..only about 20 metres above it. | 0:30:33 | 0:30:35 | |
-Black smoke came out of the tail. | 0:30:36 | 0:30:38 | |
-The plane passed the church... | 0:30:39 | 0:30:41 | |
-..then there was a loud -explosion in the forest. | 0:30:42 | 0:30:45 | |
-Black smoke came out of the plane -and a big flame out of the tail. | 0:30:45 | 0:30:50 | |
-I'm sure the pilot -saw people on the ground... | 0:30:53 | 0:30:56 | |
-..and made a great effort to aim for -the forest, away from our houses. | 0:30:56 | 0:31:01 | |
-It's evident to me this was -no accident. It was deliberate. | 0:31:05 | 0:31:09 | |
-This isn't right. | 0:31:10 | 0:31:12 | |
-I want to know the truth. | 0:31:12 | 0:31:14 | |
-SIGHS | 0:31:28 | 0:31:29 | |
-I'm on the site. -It's a very marshy spot. | 0:31:29 | 0:31:33 | |
-There are insects everywhere. | 0:31:33 | 0:31:36 | |
-I don't know what kind -of experience this will be. | 0:31:36 | 0:31:39 | |
-I'm here. I might as well start. | 0:31:40 | 0:31:42 | |
-We've seen one hole. | 0:32:24 | 0:32:26 | |
-This hole is much larger. | 0:32:27 | 0:32:30 | |
-Because it is larger... | 0:32:31 | 0:32:33 | |
-..who knows what there is -to be discovered here? | 0:32:34 | 0:32:38 | |
-The authorities say -they've held an inquiry. | 0:33:00 | 0:33:04 | |
-I found these -after only a few minutes. | 0:33:04 | 0:33:07 | |
-It raises a big question about -the thoroughness of the inquiry. | 0:33:07 | 0:33:13 | |
-I'm no expert in these matters. | 0:33:23 | 0:33:26 | |
-I'd say this is part of a seat. | 0:33:26 | 0:33:28 | |
-Deeper in the forest, -John finds a clear sign... | 0:33:41 | 0:33:45 | |
-..commemorating what -happened 25 years ago. | 0:33:45 | 0:33:50 | |
-I've travelled hundreds -of miles to come here. | 0:34:20 | 0:34:23 | |
-I hadn't expected the place to be... | 0:34:23 | 0:34:26 | |
-..so remote and wild. | 0:34:27 | 0:34:29 | |
-Six Romanians were -killed in the accident... | 0:34:31 | 0:34:35 | |
-..and a Welshman, Ian Parry, -a lad from Prestatyn... | 0:34:37 | 0:34:40 | |
-..a young man -at the start of his career. | 0:34:41 | 0:34:44 | |
-The journey began in Prestatyn. | 0:34:46 | 0:34:48 | |
-It ended in -the Romanian countryside. | 0:34:49 | 0:34:53 | |
-How different this is... | 0:34:59 | 0:35:01 | |
-..compared to what -we saw in the cemetery... | 0:35:02 | 0:35:06 | |
-..the grandiose Ceausescu grave. | 0:35:07 | 0:35:10 | |
-There's a rough-hewn cross here. | 0:35:14 | 0:35:16 | |
-It's ironic to see how Ceausescu -is remembered and respected... | 0:35:18 | 0:35:24 | |
-..and how Ian Parry is remembered, -in the middle of a forest. | 0:35:26 | 0:35:31 | |
-Apart from his family -and those close to him... | 0:35:31 | 0:35:35 | |
-..the eyewitnesses and people -who knew about the story... | 0:35:35 | 0:35:41 | |
-..to all purposes, -Ian Parry has been forgotten. | 0:35:41 | 0:35:45 | |
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-The Romanian Revolution saw the -bloody end of the communist regime. | 0:36:46 | 0:36:50 | |
-It still weighs heavily -on the country and people. | 0:36:51 | 0:36:55 | |
-A story about a plane disaster... | 0:36:55 | 0:36:58 | |
-..where six Romanians and Welshman -Ian Parry died, won't go away. | 0:36:58 | 0:37:04 | |
-Reporter John Stevenson heard -evidence and saw for himself... | 0:37:05 | 0:37:09 | |
-..the circumstances surrounding -the photographer's death. | 0:37:10 | 0:37:14 | |
-They cast suspicion -that it was all a plot... | 0:37:15 | 0:37:18 | |
-..and that the plane was shot down -by the authorities deliberately. | 0:37:18 | 0:37:23 | |
-In the last part of his journey... | 0:37:28 | 0:37:31 | |
-..John comes closer to answering the -question of who killed Ian Parry. | 0:37:31 | 0:37:36 | |
-The reporter on a documentary -broadcast in Romania... | 0:37:42 | 0:37:46 | |
-..throws more light -on the authorities' attitude... | 0:37:46 | 0:37:50 | |
-..yesterday and today. | 0:37:50 | 0:37:53 | |
-SPEAKS ROMANIAN | 0:37:53 | 0:37:54 | |
-We asked the authorities -many questions. | 0:37:57 | 0:38:01 | |
-They said they knew -nothing about the accident. | 0:38:01 | 0:38:04 | |
-No papers existed. | 0:38:04 | 0:38:06 | |
-The only document they gave me -was the official report... | 0:38:06 | 0:38:11 | |
-..stating that the plane -had come down in bad weather. | 0:38:11 | 0:38:15 | |
-The most important document -we received had been stolen... | 0:38:20 | 0:38:24 | |
-..from the Government office -by a crew member's relative. | 0:38:24 | 0:38:28 | |
-It states clearly that the plane -was brought down by a missile. | 0:38:28 | 0:38:33 | |
-Something hit the plane. | 0:38:33 | 0:38:35 | |
-..an act by an exterior force... | 0:38:35 | 0:38:37 | |
-..possibly a strike from outside... | 0:38:38 | 0:38:41 | |
-It was clear to me that -the authorities knew everything. | 0:38:41 | 0:38:46 | |
-But to this day, they don't want -the truth to come out. | 0:38:47 | 0:38:50 | |
-The next piece of the jigsaw -came from a person... | 0:38:57 | 0:39:00 | |
-..who was at the heart -of events in 1989. | 0:39:00 | 0:39:04 | |
-SPEAKS ROMANIAN | 0:39:04 | 0:39:07 | |
-Our intention wasn't to kill him, -but to bring Ceausescu to trial. | 0:39:07 | 0:39:13 | |
-Many people had been -killed on the streets. | 0:39:13 | 0:39:16 | |
-Dan Voinea was Chief Military -Prosecutor in Ceausescu's trial. | 0:39:20 | 0:39:25 | |
-The way that historic -trial was held... | 0:39:25 | 0:39:28 | |
-..reveals a lot about -what happened later to Ian Parry. | 0:39:29 | 0:39:34 | |
-I didn't feel -I had enough evidence... | 0:39:37 | 0:39:40 | |
-..to bring a strong case -against Ceausescu. | 0:39:40 | 0:39:43 | |
-I told the Judge that. | 0:39:43 | 0:39:45 | |
-He replied, "Don't worry. | 0:39:45 | 0:39:47 | |
-"This is only the start -of a long and important trial." | 0:39:47 | 0:39:51 | |
-But the new regime's Defence -Minister, Stanculescu... | 0:39:53 | 0:39:57 | |
-..said that we would only -have an hour for the trial. | 0:39:58 | 0:40:02 | |
-We had to come to a decision. | 0:40:02 | 0:40:04 | |
-The striking thing -about what you say... | 0:40:07 | 0:40:10 | |
-..is about the political motives -that led to the Ceausescu trial. | 0:40:10 | 0:40:16 | |
-I suppose it was a small step... | 0:40:16 | 0:40:19 | |
-..from political intervention -to usurp the president... | 0:40:19 | 0:40:23 | |
-..to political intervention... | 0:40:24 | 0:40:26 | |
-..and deciding to fire -a missile to bring a plane down. | 0:40:27 | 0:40:32 | |
-It was exactly the same. | 0:40:34 | 0:40:36 | |
-The same people made the decision. | 0:40:36 | 0:40:38 | |
-Let me be clear. | 0:40:38 | 0:40:40 | |
-You're telling me that the people -who decided for political reasons... | 0:40:40 | 0:40:45 | |
-..to kill Ceausescu... | 0:40:45 | 0:40:47 | |
-..Ion Iliescu -and General Stanculescu... | 0:40:47 | 0:40:52 | |
-..were exactly the same people -who gave the order... | 0:40:52 | 0:40:57 | |
-..to fire at the plane. | 0:40:57 | 0:40:59 | |
-Yes, they were the same. | 0:41:00 | 0:41:02 | |
-They wanted to conceal the truth... | 0:41:02 | 0:41:05 | |
-..about what happened -during the Revolution. | 0:41:05 | 0:41:08 | |
-Ion Iliescu came to power -after the fall of Nicolae Ceausescu. | 0:41:08 | 0:41:13 | |
-He was president of Romania -for eight years in the 1990s. | 0:41:13 | 0:41:17 | |
-If he was involved in any way -in the murder of Ian Parry... | 0:41:17 | 0:41:21 | |
-..what was he so keen to hide? | 0:41:22 | 0:41:24 | |
-Ian Parry was a friendly person. | 0:41:28 | 0:41:30 | |
-Romanian photographers -gave him pictures. | 0:41:30 | 0:41:34 | |
-The Romanian media -were not free at the time. | 0:41:34 | 0:41:37 | |
-They were not trusted. | 0:41:38 | 0:41:40 | |
-As well as photographs, -Ian Parry received documents. | 0:41:47 | 0:41:51 | |
-That's the reason why he was -a target for the authorities. | 0:41:52 | 0:41:56 | |
-I have evidence that the plane -was shot down near Vistina Forest. | 0:41:58 | 0:42:04 | |
-Dan Voinea collected information -at the time of the original inquiry. | 0:42:10 | 0:42:16 | |
-It included statements -by Romanian photographers. | 0:42:16 | 0:42:20 | |
-They took photos -at the start of the uprising... | 0:42:21 | 0:42:24 | |
-..showing who was responsible. | 0:42:24 | 0:42:27 | |
-The photos could have harmed -the new regime led by Ion Iliescu. | 0:42:28 | 0:42:32 | |
-The photos came -into Ian Parry's possession. | 0:42:35 | 0:42:39 | |
-It was hoped they would -be seen outside Romania. | 0:42:39 | 0:42:42 | |
-Throughout the story, -one name crops up constantly. | 0:42:42 | 0:42:47 | |
-I have seen a lot of documents. | 0:42:51 | 0:42:53 | |
-Ion Iliescu's name never appears. | 0:42:53 | 0:42:57 | |
-But everyone I've spoken to -says the same thing. | 0:42:57 | 0:43:00 | |
-Only one man could -authorize this action. | 0:43:00 | 0:43:04 | |
-25 years have passed since the -revolution and Ian Parry's death. | 0:43:17 | 0:43:22 | |
-Although problems remain, -Romania has changed. | 0:43:22 | 0:43:26 | |
-There is an elected government. -The country is an EU member. | 0:43:26 | 0:43:31 | |
-But one fundamental question -about Ian Parry's death remains... | 0:43:33 | 0:43:38 | |
-..which John is anxious to ask. | 0:43:38 | 0:43:41 | |
-Twenty five years have passed. -We're discussing mature men. | 0:43:41 | 0:43:46 | |
-Is it too late to do anything -to bring to account... | 0:43:46 | 0:43:50 | |
-..the people responsible -for murdering Ian Parry? | 0:43:51 | 0:43:55 | |
-No, no. | 0:43:55 | 0:43:57 | |
-It is never too late for the truth. | 0:43:57 | 0:44:00 | |
-The big problem -with the Romanian legal system... | 0:44:01 | 0:44:04 | |
-..is that there is no justice -for ordinary people. | 0:44:04 | 0:44:08 | |
-The government has done nothing -for Romanians, let alone Ian Parry. | 0:44:08 | 0:44:15 | |
-There are grave doubts in Romania -about the regime's credibility... | 0:44:25 | 0:44:29 | |
-..and their ability to face -the truth about the past. | 0:44:30 | 0:44:34 | |
-Voices from outside the country -raise similar doubts. | 0:44:34 | 0:44:39 | |
-If it is proved -the plane was shot down... | 0:44:39 | 0:44:42 | |
-..then government officials -have a human and moral right... | 0:44:42 | 0:44:46 | |
-..to investigate thoroughly. | 0:44:46 | 0:44:49 | |
-There hasn't been -a thorough investigation. | 0:44:49 | 0:44:52 | |
-A lot has been -swept under the carpet. | 0:44:52 | 0:44:55 | |
-Hopefully they'll take -their responsibilities seriously... | 0:44:55 | 0:45:00 | |
-..and they'll look into it. | 0:45:00 | 0:45:02 | |
-From what I see, it points -very clearly to a deliberate act... | 0:45:03 | 0:45:08 | |
-..to shoot down the plane. | 0:45:08 | 0:45:11 | |
-If that's what happened, -it means it was murder. | 0:45:11 | 0:45:15 | |
-Therefore, the people responsible -should be prosecuted. | 0:45:16 | 0:45:21 | |
-If guilty, they should be punished. | 0:45:21 | 0:45:24 | |
-The least we can do... | 0:45:24 | 0:45:26 | |
-..is to ensure justice -for Ian Parry. | 0:45:26 | 0:45:29 | |
-As a reporter, I try not to be -emotional when reporting a story. | 0:45:37 | 0:45:42 | |
-I have only spoken to the families -of the Romanians who were killed. | 0:45:47 | 0:45:52 | |
-As one of the generation -responsible for the revolution... | 0:45:56 | 0:46:00 | |
-..what I'd like to say -to Ian Parry's family... | 0:46:00 | 0:46:03 | |
-..I'm truly sorry. | 0:46:07 | 0:46:09 | |
-This is Ian Parry's grave. | 0:46:32 | 0:46:34 | |
-There is no headstone. | 0:46:35 | 0:46:37 | |
-The reason for that, -and for the simple cross... | 0:46:37 | 0:46:41 | |
-..is that the stone was moved. | 0:46:41 | 0:46:43 | |
-The irony is that -Ian's mother, Gwladys Parry... | 0:46:43 | 0:46:47 | |
-..died in 2014... | 0:46:47 | 0:46:48 | |
-..twenty five years after -Ian's death in Romania. | 0:46:49 | 0:46:54 | |
-For me, the journey ends -in Prestatyn's graveyard... | 0:46:55 | 0:46:59 | |
-..by Ian's grave. | 0:46:59 | 0:47:01 | |
-The journey to find the truth... | 0:47:02 | 0:47:04 | |
-..and discover what happened -to bring about Ian Parry's death... | 0:47:05 | 0:47:11 | |
-..will continue. | 0:47:12 | 0:47:14 | |
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