Logophiles v Variorum Hive Minds

Welcome to Hive Minds -

the quiz where simply knowing the answers isn't enough,

you've got to find them as well.

Let's meet this week's Hive Minds.

Logophiles, would you introduce yourselves, please?

Hello, my name is Emma.

I come from Hove in East Sussex

and I'm an assistant director of studies.

I'm David, I'm from Ealing and I'm a subtitler for the deaf.

Hi, I'm Nick. I'm a publisher of educational courses from Oxford.

And Logophiles? Just explain the meaning of that.

-Well, we're...

-Lovers of...?

We are all very fond of wood.

-We thought we were here for Deal or no Deal.

-Yeah, yeah.

LAUGHTER Lovers of logs.

-So, lovers of words then, presumably?

-Yeah.

And Yule logs.

-And logs as well?

-Yes.

-OK.

I think the words might be more useful than logs,

-but we shall see.

-Yeah.

Variorum, would you introduce yourselves, please?

Yeah, my name is Ting.

I'm from Newbury, Berkshire and I work in corporate banking.

My name is Stuart, I'm a London Tube driver from Ilford in Essex.

My name is Joyce. I'm a retired management consultant

and I'm from Lurgan in Northern Ireland.

And Variorum? Where does that come name come from?

It is Latin for "different minds",

or "different ways of thinking",

so, we are quite varied and that was the name came out with.

-So, you're hoping your different thinking will come together...

-Yep.

..to triumph on Hive Minds?

-We'll go down that path and see what happens.

-Let's see if it does.

Good luck to you both. Let's play Hive Minds.

All the answers are hidden in a hive, which looks like this...

And if the answer to my question was

"What are the names of this week's teams?",

you'd be looking for...

Logophiles and Variorum.

There it is. And, as you can see, the answers use adjoining cells.

They can go in any direction and no cell is used more than once.

In Round One, as you are looking for answers in the hive,

letters will start to disappear. And, as they do, the points go down,

so the faster you answer, the more you score.

So, Logophiles, here's your first question.

When you think you've found the answer,

hit the first letter to stop the clock.

Find a man who was married to Elizabeth Taylor.

Reveal the hive.

Not Burton.

-Nicky Hanson.

-Fisher?

Fisher, Conrad Hilton.

Erm...

What was the most recent? Not Burton. Erm...

Fortensky.

It can't be Fortensky, no.

Who else was there?

Two points left.

-Oh, no.

-Gosh.

Fisher, Burton.

THEY CONFER

Out of time. Out of time.

Variorum, spotted it?

She had so many husbands!

Wilding is the name we were after - Michael Wilding.

And he was husband number...

..four, maybe?

Number two. So, she was married how many times, Elizabeth Taylor?

-Eight.

-Eight.

She was. She was married eight times, but only to seven husbands.

-Yes.

-Because she was married to Burton twice.

Variorum, we are with you.

Find an English county that does not contain a city.

Reveal the hive.

Erm... English county. Wiltshire...

-Worcestershire?

-No, that's too many.

Suffolk, Suffolk, Suffolk?

Yep.

Suffolk.

Suffolk? Let's see if you're right.

Correct. With four points.

Logophiles, find the name of both a model of a Ford car

and an ITV regional franchise.

Reveal the hive.

THEY CONFER

OK, so where is it?

A-N-G-L-I...

-Ooh, no.

-Ooh.

I'm sorry. You stopped the clock.

-Oh.

-You've got R.

I'm afraid you haven't found the right answer.

Let's see what you'd have been left with

and I'll throw it over to you for a bonus point.

Granada?

It's not there. G-R-A...

No. Granada is nearly there.

That's one of those false trails.

But it's not. What we were looking for was...

-Anglia.

-Anglia, was it?

-We were looking for Anglia.

Variorum, over to you.

Find a type of firework that shares its name

with an artwork by Marcel Duchamp.

Reveal the hive.

Rocket, banger. Rocket, banger.

Fireworks.

Catherine wheel...

Sparkler, sparkler, sparkler, sparkler.

Creation? Creation?

THEY CONFER

Your answer?

Creation?

Creation? I'm afraid you haven't found the right answer.

Let's throw it over to you, Logophiles.

Let's see what you'd have been left with for a bonus point.

Fountain.

Correct, Fountain. So fountain, a type of firework.

And, in 1917, Marcel Duchamp created his famous urinal.

-Oh, yeah.

-Remember that? Signed R. Mutt.

-Nice.

Well done, Variorum.

4 points, tremendous.

Logophiles, trailing a bit with 1.

You've still got plenty of time to catch up.

We're going to make things a little more complicated now.

Logophiles, I'm starting with you.

I'm looking for two answers

and you must spot both to score the points.

Find an 18th-century battle

and the present-day country in which it took place.

Reveal the hive.

THEY CONFER

Erm...

Erm...

-Er, yeah, I think I've got it. OK.

-OK.

PING

You pressed W and B. Your answer?

-Waterloo and Belgium.

-Waterloo and Belgium?

Oh.

I'm afraid you have found the right answers.

-ALL:

-Oh!

Variorum, throwing it over to you for a bonus point. Do you know it?

Marengo.

-Madrid? Madrid?

-THEY CONFER

No. No, I'm afraid not.

You're out of time.

-Blenheim and Germany.

-Ah!

So, an 18th-century battle - Blenheim.

And the present-day country in which it took place - Germany.

It was Bavaria, but that's now part of Germany.

Variorum, I'm back with you.

Find both members of a British pop duo.

Reveal the hive.

Ant and Dec?

-Pop duo.

-Pop...

-Erm...

-Erm...

Might be Dave. Chas and Dave.

No? Erm...

For three points.

THEY CONFER

Oh.

Wham?

George Michael, M-I-C-H...

HE MUMBLES

Out of time.

I'm going to throw it over to you, Logophiles, for a bonus point.

THEY CONFER

Quickly. If you know it, press the letters.

M and R. Your answer is?

Michael and Ridgeley.

Michael and Ridgeley. Let's see if you are right.

Yes, indeed. Michael and Ridgeley as in...

-ALL:

-Wham.

-Wham.

George Michael and Andrew Ridgeley.

So, where have we got to at the end of that round?

That was a tricky one.

Variorum, you're in the lead with 4.

Logophiles, just a little behind with 2.

In Round Two, you'll need to face two hives containing three answers

relating to a specific topic.

You've got 45 seconds to complete each hive

and score a maximum of 5 points.

So, Variorum, you are in the lead, you get to choose first.

Have a look at the topics...

Which one appeals to you?

I think musical theatre?

-Not philosophy.

-I like musical theatre.

-No, not philosophy.

We'll take musical theatre, please.

Musical theatre over philosophy? OK.

When I reveal the question, you will have ten seconds to confer

as a team, but then you are answering on your own.

You've got two passes.

You are looking for...

You've got ten seconds to confer.

Oklahoma.

Carousel.

South Pacific is two words. Can't have that. Erm...

Oklahoma, Carousel.

What's the one with...Dolly?

No, that's two words.

-Time's up.

-All right.

-Stop conferring.

Ting, we are going to start with you.

So, you are looking for Rodgers and Hammerstein musicals.

We are after three of them.

Reveal the hive.

Oklahoma?

Oklahoma?

Correct. Stuart...

Carousel?

Carousel?

Correct. Joyce...

You have two passes remaining.

You can pass, Joyce.

-Pass.

-Ting...

One pass remaining.

-Pass.

-Stuart...

-Down to you.

-Yep.

TIMER BUZZES

-Couldn't find that elusive last Rodgers and Hammerstein musical.

-No.

So, what were you missing? Can you spot it now?

-Still can't see it.

-No.

-Perhaps a slightly lesser-known one.

It's not Cinders?

-Cinderella.

-Oh, Cinderella!

Cinderella, a 1957 TV musical, starring Julie Andrews.

-Right.

-That was the one you were after.

So, you got 2 points,

which takes your score up to 6.

Logophiles, it's your turn now. Which topic would you like?

You've got...

OK. So...

Well, I think we'll know about food and drink, won't we?

-Yes.

-Yes.

-That's a good bet.

-Food and drink?

-Food and drink. OK.

Yeah. Food and drink, please.

Food and drink it is. OK.

Well, in the category of food and drink, you will be looking for...

You have ten seconds to confer.

OK, so you've got the Cox...

-Braeburn.

-Pippin... Well, that's not one word.

-Pink lady.

-Pink lady.

-Granny Smith.

-Granny Smith.

-BOTH:

-Golden delicious.

-One word.

-Yes, true.

-Oh, yeah. Of course.

Time's up, I'm afraid. Stop conferring.

Emma, we're going to start with you.

So, you are looking for varieties of apple. You've got 45 seconds.

Reveal the hive.

Pass.

David...

One pass remaining.

30 seconds.

Braeburn.

Braeburn?

Correct. Nick...

One pass remaining.

15 seconds.

You can pass.

-Pass.

-Emma...

EMMA MURMURS

No, sorry.

-That was a tricky one.

-Yes.

Well, you got Braeburn.

What you could also have got is...

-Spartan.

-Ah.

Originates from Canada.

-Discovery.

-Oh.

-The Discovery apple. First produced in Essex.

-Oh.

Familiar with that one? LAUGHTER

There were some red herrings, which I thought you might fall into,

those traps, cos you discussed them earlier.

So, Cox was nearly there.

-Russet was nearly there. ALL:

-Yep.

But, otherwise, it was Braeburn, Spartan, Discovery.

You got Braeburn, so you got one point, taking you to three.

Back with you now, Variorum.

Let's see which topic you will choose.

From the remaining categories, you've got...

-Well, for me...

-Best of a bad bunch, looks like UK politics?

-Still not philosophy.

-I'll go UK politics.

We'll go for UK politics, please, Fiona.

-It's anything but philosophy, isn't it?

-It looks like it.

-Anything but philosophy.

OK, UK politics. You'll be looking for...

10 seconds to confer, off you go...

-Tebbit, Lawson.

-Yeah.

-Lamont.

-Lamont.

-Pfff...

-Heseltine?

-Heseltine.

-Defence Minister...

-Time's up.

Joyce, we're starting with you.

Members of Margaret Thatcher's first Cabinet. Reveal the hive.

Pass.

Ting.

There's one pass remaining.

-20 seconds.

-Pass.

-Joseph.

-Stuart?

Joseph, correct. Joyce?

It's all down to you, Joyce.

No passes. Time's up.

It's a lot of pressure, isn't it?

When it all comes down to you and you've got to find them.

So, what did you get? Members of Margaret Thatcher's first Cabinet.

Joseph, Keith Joseph,

-Industry Secretary.

-Yeah.

-Howe is nearly there.

-Yeah.

Carrington is nearly there.

But actually, what we were looking

for was Whitelaw. William Whitelaw.

And then the other name was Biffen.

John Biffen. Chief Secretary of the

-Treasury.

-I wouldn't have got that.

-That was a tricky one.

-Mm.

-One point, which brings you to 7.

Logophiles, we're back with you.

Let's see if you can make up the points.

We're left with philosophy and geology.

-Which one are you going to go for?

-OK...

-I know nothing about geology, so...

-No.

-No, philosophy it is them.

-Put our minds together for philosophy.

-Yes, I think so.

You're embracing philosophy. OK.

Well, you'll be looking for...

You've 10 seconds to confer.

-Republic...

-Republic.

-Republic.

-I've drawn a blank.

-Yeah, me too.

-Erm, Atlantis.

-Yes.

Time's up.

You're looking a bit downcast there, David!

-We're starting with you! So, gird your loins.

-Yeah.

OK, you've got 45 seconds, works of Plato. Reveal the hive.

Republic.

Correct. Nick?

You've got two passes, remember.

20 seconds, you CAN pass.

Pass.

Emma?

One pass remaining.

-Erm, pass.

-David?

-Pax.

-Well, Pax is a word. I'm not aware that it's a work by Plato.

-OK.

That was obviously tricky for you because when you were all

discussing it, you immediately said Republic.

So, of course, you got that straight away. Republic, very well-known work by Plato.

But there were two others in there.

-Symposium.

-Symposium.

Symposium, that's where the concept

of platonic love was described.

And there's another one in there,

-Apology.

-Ah!

-We can only apologise!

Plato's version... No, you don't need to apologise!

That's what you needed for the full 5 points.

You got Republic, which gave you 1 point, taking you up to 4,

Logophiles, and Variorum, steaming ahead with 7.

In round three, you're each faced with a super hive.

You're looking for a number of answers that fit a certain category.

Your challenge is to use every letter to find one perfect solution.

Variorum, it's your turn. Which hive would you like?

The A-hive or the B-hive?

-B?

-Yeah, we'll go for B, please.

The B-hive.

You all have 2 minutes and you are looking for...

European capitals. Reveal the hive.

Ah, I know this, I'm good at this.

-Come on then.

-Sofia?

-Yeah. Zagreb?

No, that's A. Sofia's O.

You must press enter, remember.

-S-O.

-Hang on, let me take these out then.

-S-O-F-I-A.

-Sofia.

No, no, you got too many Os.

-Oh, yeah.

-Clear it.

-No, that's right.

Zagreb. Z-A-G-R-E-B.

OK, Copenhagen. Is there Copenhagen?

Tallinn.

Don't forget to press enter

if you want to keep it there.

-That's locked in now.

-Take that out.

Right, Zagreb, Z-A-G-R-E-B.

Enter. Right, Tallinn.

-T-A-L-L-I-N.

-All right.

-It's got a J.

-J, J, J...

Erm, Copenhagen...

Sarajevo?

J-E-V-O, so Sarajevo, but I can't see it, no.

Paris, Madrid?

I think we may have got some of them wrong.

-There's Athens.

-Yeah.

So, A-T-H-E-N-S.

But we have to take the S out of...

-But we don't know...

-Take out Sofia.

Erm...

30 seconds remaining.

What else have we got? Paris, Madrid, Lisbon.

We've got some of these wrong.

We've only got 24, so... Amsterdam...

Minsk. Have we got Minsk?

M-I-N-S-K...

-All right, so, NC.

-No, something else is wrong.

10 seconds.

Portugal...

-What else? Oh, Sofia!

-Yeah, I've just seen Sofia the other way.

S-O-F-I-A.

-Where did you see it? Just on the top left?

-Yeah.

Let's look at Tallinn for a moment.

-Well, I think we should have had the other N.

-It's two Ns.

Tallinn, two Ns, capital of Estonia.

So, were going to have to take that out, I'm afraid.

Sofia was in and out, in and out,

and then you spotted it at the end but it was too late.

So, we didn't get Sofia.

You did get Zagreb, capital of Croatia.

Athens,

and Minsk, capital of Belarus.

Of those three, they are three European capitals,

so, you've got three points there.

Which of those were part of the perfect solution? Let's have a look.

None of them!

Athens and Minsk.

So, putting Zagreb where you put it,

that was a little red herring we put in there for you.

So, what you could have had was Sofia.

Let's see where you should have put Sofia.

That was it, that was what you spotted right at the end, wasn't it?

-You should have put Sofia there. OK, then Copenhagen.

-You said that.

Not quite in time. Skopje, you spotted that,

but after it was too late. the Macedonian capital.

Belgrade. There it is.

Tallinn, that's how you spell it.

And Vaduz, the capital of Liechtenstein.

So, Zagreb was a red herring, as you know, Vienna was in there as well.

But that was a red herring.

If you put that, you definitely would not have got the perfect solution.

And then Kiev, the Ukrainian capital. That was there too.

-Did you see it and ignore it?

-Didn't see Kiev, no.

-Just didn't see it!

OK. Logophiles, are you ready? You're left with the A-hive.

And I can tell you that you will be looking for

end names of English football clubs.

Reveal the hive.

OK, you've got Hotspur.

You've got Rangers, at the top.

-City.

-Yeah.

-Erm, Villa.

-Athletic.

-Albion.

-United.

Should we put some of these in, just to start.

-Looks like City, maybe?

-Maybe County down there.

I can see Albion here.

County and City share the same letter...

No, they don't.

-Yeah, but the same Y. We can't put both in.

-OK.

So, whether we think County or...

Shall we start putting some in?

-County?

-Try County, yeah.

OK, ready to lock, yeah?

Let's try Villa.

Oh, yes, I see it. Villa's there.

Except that's an E and A together.

-That one.

-No, wrong way.

-Villa?

-Yeah, that way.

-Probably OK... Albion?

-Put the Albion.

We've got Rangers. No, we haven't any more.

-We've got United definitely.

-OK, put United.

Have we got a Wednesday anywhere?

Is that a Victoria? No...

Erm...

-45 seconds to go.

-We do have Rovers.

Rovers. Good.

-Athletic here?

-Yeah, there's Athletic.

I wonder if it's City and not County.

Looks like it.

-OK, that's it.

-Shall we deselect county?

No, we're fine. What's happening there?

Maybe we will have to go back round.

-That's right.

-15 seconds.

Just keep going.

Round there, that's it.

-Yeah...

-That was the wrong Albion.

Deselect that and stick that in...

-You've got to keep an eye on the clock!

-Yeah.

Let's see what you found out of that lot. So, County, first of all.

Plenty of football teams ending in County.

Derby, Notts County.

United. Rovers. Athletic.

Any teams with Athletic?

-Charlton?

-Charlton Athletic, of course.

Villa, Aston Villa.

So, of course they're all endings of English football clubs,

so you scored 5 points there.

OK, let's see which of those were part of the perfect solution.

So, it was United that was in the wrong place.

So, County and Rovers, Athletic and Villa,

all part of the perfect solution.

You could also have had Wanderers, Bolton Wanderers.

-Albion, now, THAT'S where Albion belonged.

-Yeah.

-Argyle.

-Plymouth Argyle. Shall we see where United should have gone?

-Yeah.

There.

So, you gain 5 points. Logophiles, that takes you to 9.

Variorum, you're in the lead, just, with 10.

So, there's just one point between you,

as we go into our final buzzer round.

This time, the hives are filled with answers and, if you pay attention,

you might spot an answer to a question you haven't even heard yet.

Fingers on buzzers. Are you ready? Reveal the hive.

You are looking for a West African capital city.

BUZZER

Monrovia. That's what we were after.

Monrovia, capital of Liberia.

Next, to find a princess

in Greek mythology.

-Logophiles!

-Erm...

Need an answer now!

Medea...but nah...

Medea? No. You were looking

for Andromeda. That takes you

back a point. OK. A class of

British nuclear submarine.

-Variorum?

-Vanguard.

Vanguard. Correct.

I heard you say it, Logophiles,

but you couldn't find it in there.

An egg-laying mammal.

-Variorum?

-Meerkat.

-Meerkat,

no. Monotreme.

An egg-laying mammal

is a monotreme.

Find a French composer.

-Logophiles?

-Ravel.

Ravel, Maurice Ravel, correct.

Just one point between you.

Find a Doctor Who villain.

-Logophiles?

-Davros.

Davros, correct!

It's neck and neck.

Let's refresh the hive.

You are looking for a UK rock group.

-Variorum?

-Kasabian.

Kasabian, correct.

You're just ahead.

World chess champion.

-Variorum?

-Spassky.

You said Kaspassky?

-Spassky.

-Spassky?

Kasparov. Gary Kasparov.

You lose a point.

Find a symmetrical curve.

Logophiles? I need an answer.

-Parabola!

-Parabola.

Just in the nick of time.

One point ahead now.

A British prison.

-Not Strangeways.

-Logophiles?

Parkhurst.

Parkhurst, you're on

a roll, correct.

A character in Thunderbirds.

-Logophiles?

-Brains.

Brains? Parker.

Parker the chauffeur,

that's who we were after.

A scholar of the Renaissance.

-Logophiles?

-Erasmus.

Erasmus, correct.

Let's refresh the hive.

Still very close, Variorum,

you can still do it.

An ancient city in Tunisia.

-Variorum?

-Carthagen.

(No, it's Carthage!)

Incorrect, it's Carthage.

You lose a point!

(Take your time!)

An English stately home.

-Logophiles?

-Chatsworth.

Chatsworth, correct.

A film starring Dudley Moore.

-Logophiles?

-Arthur.

Arthur, correct.

A mayonnaise-based sauce.

-Variorum?

-Radish.

-Radish?

Tartar, tartar sauce.

(Where did you get the letters?)

(I thought I saw R and A.)

First name of a Bronte pseudonym.

Currer, Acton...

-Logophiles?

-Currer.

Currer, correct.

Currer Bell was her pseudonym.

C and B, as in Charlotte Bronte.

A British historian.

-(Taylor, AJP Taylor.)

-Anyone?

BUZZER Oh!

Worsley.

Worsley, as in Lucy Worsley, who

graces our television screens.

There we are, so, Logophiles, you go through to the next round,

Variorum, you have one more chance to stay in the competition.

I'll look forward to seeing you again.

Join us for more brilliance and bewilderment in Hive Minds next time.

Before we go, here's one for you just at home.

The first name of a character in The Good Life and the surname of the person who portrayed them.

Bye-bye!