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-# You've heard

-the celebrities many times #

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-Three of the most recognizable

-voices on the radio in the 1940s...

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-..were Mered, Cled a Robin

-or Triawd y Coleg.

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-Meredydd Evans became BBC Wales's

-Head of Light Entertainment.

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-I worked with him

-at the start of my career.

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-You're officially recognized

-as Dr Meredydd Evans...

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-..but we all know you as Mered.

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-It says a lot about you

-as a person.

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-There's something very endearing

-about calling you Mered.

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-Do you like the title or would you

-prefer to be called Dr Evans?

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-No, I like to be called Mered.

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-I have been called

-a lot worse than doctor.

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-I won't give you any examples

-because they will shock some people!

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-I'm perfectly happy

-to be called Mered.

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-That hails from the time...

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-..you performed on the radio

-and Noson Lawen.

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-Yes, it does.

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-The three of us were known

-as Cled, Robin and Mered.

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-# If you come to the yard

-at Y Fron #

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-There has always been singing

-and light entertainment in Wales.

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-It took a definite course

-that was more humorous...

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-..when it was broadcast

-on the radio.

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-If you look back at the songs

-that I composed...

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-..you can see that

-there were obvious influences...

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-..such as the dance music

-and women in America of the time.

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-Those inspired that genre of music.

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-There was a difference in the music.

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-This led to more and more people...

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-..composing their own melodies.

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-Hogia Llandegai

-wrote their own music...

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-..as would Hogia'r Wyddfa.

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-They've composed the majority

-of their own music.

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-I'm going to dare to say...

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-..that none of the events

-from the past 15 to 20 years...

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-..would have happened

-without your appointment in 1963...

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-..as Head of Light Entertainment

-at the BBC.

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-What was the main problem

-that you faced...

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-..as you attempted to establish

-a light entertainment department?

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-The problem we had was the sudden

-change in public communication...

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-..from an audio format

-to a visual medium.

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-I'd had a lot of experience

-with working on radio...

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-..and was familiar

-with radio performances.

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-I was suddenly thrust into

-the new world of television.

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-The was a major stumbling block...

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-..with Welsh-language

-light entertainment.

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-Our main competition was the world

-of Anglo-American entertainment...

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-..and it was a powerful force.

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-You had to offer something...

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-..that resembled cabaret

-and included dancing.

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-I soon discovered that Welsh artists

-didn't have the legs for this.

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-We were too self-conscious.

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-You discovered the person

-who embodied everything you wanted.

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-At the time,

-he was a teacher in London.

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-I'm referring to Ryan Davies.

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-Yes, that's right.

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-I had seen him perform

-in the National Eisteddfod...

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-..when the London Welsh

-staged a Noson Lawen or a drama.

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-It was soon after this

-that I approached Hywel Davies.

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-In my opinion...

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-..Hywel was the best programme

-executive within television.

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-Hywel was a television man.

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-I remember saying to Hywel...

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-..that I didn't think we would make

-any groundbreaking advances...

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-..in developing Welsh-language

-light entertainment...

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-..on television.

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-If we wanted to succeed,

-we needed a strong foundation...

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-..of professional

-male and female performers.

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-Hywel asked if I had anyone in mind.

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-"Yes," I said.

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-"Who is he?"

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-"Ryan Davies."

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-Hywel agreed

-that he was the man for the job!

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-# Have you ever seen my Siani,

-Hob a derry dando

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-# She's the finest in the county,

-Sian, Sian, lovely Sian

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-# Sian, Sian, lovely Sian

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-# That's the fairest, lovely Sian #

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-Hob a derry dando!

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-Good evening.

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-The new medium was in place

-in the homes of Wales.

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-However, there were other steps

-that needed to be achieved.

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-We needed two entertainers...

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-..if we were going to compete

-with the Anglo-Americans.

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-We had to develop this idea.

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-We managed to achieve this

-with Ryan and Ronnie.

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-Wey!

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-Hello, Ron.

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-Hello, Ron.

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-Hello, indeed.

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-The whip has more meat than you!

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-So you still want to be a jockey.

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-So you still want to be a jockey.

-

-I could be the next Lester Faggot!

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-Show us.

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-Down you go.

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-I'm only doing it to help a friend.

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-I'm only doing it to help a friend.

-

-Good boy, down you go.

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-Are you ready? Up I go.

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-Into the stalls.

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-# I'm a brave, courageous knight #

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-Are you ready, Ron?

-Gee up to the next sketch!

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-There were others such as

-Bryn Williams, Derek Boote...

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-..and Margaret Williams.

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-These were our main artists.

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-There was also a drama department

-at the BBC.

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-You will not believe

-the difficulties I faced...

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-..when I said that the

-light entertainment department...

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-..could create situation comedies.

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-The issue was debated

-for many months.

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-The creation process of a good

-comedy sketch is very different...

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-..when compared

-to a situation comedy.

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-The comedic elements are the same...

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-..but the characters must be

-at the heart of a situation comedy.

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-Heavens above!

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-Can you play that?

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-Can you play that?

-

-Of course I can play the harmonium.

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-PLAYS HARMONIUM

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-I'm going out to listen

-to the pigeons.

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-HORN TOOTS

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-CONTINUES PLAYING HARMONIUM

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-HORN TOOTS

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-When I look back

-at those early days...

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-..I still get very excited.

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-How do you view that period of time

-in general?

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-Do you continue to feel excited

-when you think about it?

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-Something inside me

-wanted to make it work.

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-It had to succeed.

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-We had to do something...

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-..so that light entertainment

-in the Welsh language...

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-..was something acceptable.

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-The language has to flourish

-in its own country.

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-It needs to be ingrained

-throughout the nation...

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-..so this was

-a very exciting medium.

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-It was important to succeed

-in that medium.

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-Thank you.

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-Thank you.

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-Thank you, Hywel.

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-I would like to thank you

-for being there at the beginning.

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-You're welcome

-and thank you very much.

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-# In the morning

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-# In the morning

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-# When the birds were heard

-singing their harmony

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-# Wake up the world is alive

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-# Is alive

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-# Is alive

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-# Is alive

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-# Is alive #

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-This is Theatr Felinfach

-in the 1980s.

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-I don't think

-that nappy suited me...

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-..but it caused a stir

-among the audience.

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-After the break, I meet a young man

-who works at Theatr Felinfach...

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-..and many other Welsh theatres.

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-We celebrate the birthday of Wales's

-first commercial radio station.

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-Don't go away. I'll be right back!

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-I've been very fortunate to walk

-this world for over 50 years...

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-..and meet people

-from many different countries.

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-But it still amazes me

-that a country as small as Wales...

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-..has produced so many talented

-and interesting people.

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-TODAY

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-This is Gwyn Eiddior

-from Garndolbenmaen.

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-He's a talented designer...

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-..who has worked on a variety

-of stage and screen productions.

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-Gwyn is currently

-using his creativity...

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-..to design a set for the latest

-production by Theatr Genedlaethol.

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-You're very familiar

-with this grand foyer...

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-..at the Royal Welsh College

-of Music & Drama in Cardiff.

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-I studied here for three years.

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-It was an exciting and challenging

-but fun too.

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-This foyer itself

-is the majestic, new extension...

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-..that was built after my time here.

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-I studied in the old building

-behind this one.

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-Why did you come here?

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-I was drawn to the big city

-and the bright lights of Cardiff!

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-The course itself offered something

-to suit all my interests.

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-I decided to give set design a go!

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-Your career comes as no surprise

-as your grandfather was Wil Sam.

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-My grandfather

-was one of my biggest influences.

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-I felt comfortable in the theatre.

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-I met many actors,

-writers and directors...

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-..and I felt at ease

-in that situation.

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-It comes as no surprise

-that I've followed in his footsteps.

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-These are your designs

-from your college days.

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-This portfolio is full of memories.

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-I've got many fond memories

-as we flick through the pages.

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-These are some set designs for the

-productions in the college theatre.

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-This is the set for Popcorn

-at the Sherman Theatre.

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-I designed it when I was in college.

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-It's set in Hollywood.

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-We turn the pages

-and find my most recent work...

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-..as a professional designer.

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-These are for Yr Argae.

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-It was Taid's translation

-of The Weir by Conor McPherson...

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-..that was performed

-at the Cardiff Eisteddfod.

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-It was a large set.

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-The play is set in an Irish pub.

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-The characters and Irish community

-is reminiscent of Wales.

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-I'm not surprised

-that Taid translated it.

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-You've also designed for television.

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-I've been lucky to be able to turn

-my hand to television and theatre.

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-I've designed sets

-for music programmes...

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-..and redesigned

-children's bedrooms.

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-They are both very different.

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-I use the same skills

-that I learnt as a set designer...

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-..but apply

-those skills differently.

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-A programme such as Hip neu Sgip...

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-..puts me under

-a lot of pressure as a designer.

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-I'm used to working with

-large budgets.

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-However, you're designing

-a child's bedroom...

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-..and that child will sleep

-in that room for many years.

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-It's totally different to designing

-a set for theatre or television.

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-Kim's mother was happy

-with the new room.

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-It's a great effort

-and two new happy customers.

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-Until next time, ta-ra!

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-This is the set of Ochr 1.

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-It's a new series that

-we've recently finished filming.

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-The series surrounds pop music.

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-Musicians and bands come here

-to record sessions on this set.

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-It looks rather bare

-without all the guitars.

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-This set was inspired

-by the name Ochr 1 or side one.

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-The image of the vinyl record is

-conveyed by the circles and tubes.

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-Can the tubes be moved

-into different positions?

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-Yes, we adapt the set

-for the different bands.

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-We get different shots

-by filming through the tubes.

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-You can be creative with your shots

-by hiding cameras behind the tubes.

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-Yes, the cameramen like having

-something to work with.

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-Your grandfather would be happy that

-your next project is in the theatre.

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-Yes, I'm returning to the theatre...

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-..for Caryl Lewis's new play called

-Y Negesydd for Theatr Genedlaethol.

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-Rehearsals start in a fortnight so

-I'm currently finishing the model.

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-The drama is located

-in a cottage in West Wales.

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-A father and daughter

-live in the cottage.

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-It's quite a sad and dark drama.

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-I hope the set reflects this.

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-Does it challenge you as a designer?

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-Yes, it will be challenging

-as there are two levels...

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-..and an array of different scenes.

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-There's a dramatic incident at

-the end but I can't reveal too much.

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-But the set

-will need to be adapted for that.

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-Have you designed your own future

-or do you take each day as it comes?

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-I live for the moment and move

-from place to place around Wales.

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-I wish you the best of luck.

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-We need more talented designers

-like yourself in Wales.

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-YESTERDAY

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-# Swansea Sound #

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-Hello and welcome to our

-Welsh programme on Swansea Sound.

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-In 1984, Swansea Sound

-marked ten years...

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-..as the first commercial

-radio station in Wales...

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-..and I was Garry Owen's guest.

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-It was officially opened

-a decade earlier...

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-..by Wynford Vaughan-Thomas

-in September 1974.

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-This was where Glynog Davies

-started his career.

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-Had you done any performing

-before you got the job?

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-At the time, I was studying for

-a diploma in education in Swansea.

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-I was invited for an interview for

-the new radio station in Swansea.

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-I thought nothing of it

-and attended the interview...

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-..with John Bevan

-who was the managing director.

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-I arrived at a shoe shop

-on the high street in Swansea.

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-We went upstairs to an empty room.

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-There was no furniture

-so we sat on boxes.

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-It was an informal interview and he

-asked about my previous experience.

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-I only had experience

-of performing locally...

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-..and had

-no professional experience...

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-..but I got the job!

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-I was offered the job and that is

-how I ended up working in the media.

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-All your previous performances

-had been in Welsh.

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-Yes, it was all in Welsh...

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-..and I was asked to produce and

-present in Welsh on this new radio.

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-It was the first commercial

-radio station in Wales.

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-This was a time

-before Radio Cymru and S4C existed.

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-Very little was broadcast in Welsh.

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-Let's turn our attention

-to another album.

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-It's a new album on the market

-called Goreuon Sain.

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-We covered a wide catchment area

-that included Swansea.

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-Swansea was a pro Welsh region

-at the time.

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-The catchment also included the

-Gwendraeth Valley, Swansea Valley...

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-..and the Amman Valley.

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-These areas were Welsh to the core.

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-I was surprised to learn...

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-..that Swansea Sound had hundreds

-of thousands of Welsh-speaking fans.

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-It was an exciting time for us as

-a young team with little experience.

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-But we had the enthusiasm

-and drive to make it succeed.

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-We wanted it to succeed...

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-..and I felt that people

-appreciated what we did.

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-We had a fantastic response

-to our programmes.

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-The best thing about the job

-was meeting people.

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-People make programmes.

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-Interesting people make the best

-programmes. That will never change.

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-In the early days, Wyn Thomas was

-a popular presenter on the station.

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-He loved causing a stir!

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-This is the studio where it all

-began for you all those years ago.

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-Yes, this is where it all started

-on 30 September 1974.

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-I was totally petrified.

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-I became famous, or rather infamous,

-for my phone-in programme.

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-Today, I would be called

-a shock jock as I said silly things.

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-If I didn't like what I heard,

-I would hang up on people.

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-This attracted many listeners.

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-It was the first ever phone-in

-and I made some outrageous comments.

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-In the week

-of Elvis Presley's death in 1977...

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-..I said it wasn't a great loss.

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-He would struggle to sing

-second tenor in the Morriston Choir!

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-I also said that he couldn't act and

-played less chords than Dafydd Iwan.

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-The switchboard went wild.

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-You said these things to get

-a reaction from your listeners.

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-How much of the Welsh language

-was heard on the service?

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-At that time, we were under an

-independent broadcasting authority.

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-We had a contract

-that dealt with our broadcasts.

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-It said that 13% of our programmes

-needed to be in Welsh.

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-We wanted to use the Welsh language

-as it was heard on the street.

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-If you went to Swansea market,

-Morriston, Llanelli or Loughor...

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-..you heard a mixture of languages.

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-It was up to us to reflect it.

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-We needed to use Welsh

-in the English-based programmes.

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-The station's strength was that it

-was at the heart of the community.

0:21:340:21:39

-The listeners had an outlet

-to express their problems.

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-That's exactly it.

0:21:440:21:46

-Glynog played the organ

-in chapel on a Sunday night...

0:21:460:21:50

-..and the congregation

-gave him their requests.

0:21:500:21:54

-His aunt

-worked in a local coal mine...

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-..and the miners gave her

-their requests to pass on to Glynog.

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-The secret to our success was

-our relationship with the audience.

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-We felt that we were pioneering.

0:22:070:22:10

-The things

-that were relevant yesterday...

0:22:100:22:13

-..are just as important today.

0:22:130:22:16

-The only thing that has changed is

-the packaging around the programmes.

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-In broadcasting,

-and especially television...

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-..it's possible to add

-a lot of colour and polish...

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-..but the same virtues apply.

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-If you know the answer, pop it

-on a card and send it to me...

0:22:320:22:37

-..Glynog Davies, Radio 257,

-Victoria Road, Gowerton, Swansea.

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-Next week, I meet a real

-rock and roller from the 1970s.

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-I also chat with a lady who

-builds bridges in the arts world...

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-..and speak to the man

-who's carved out his name in stone.

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