Lleisiau Merched y 60'au a'r 70'au Lle Aeth Pawb?


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Lleisiau Merched y 60'au a'r 70'au

Rhaglen arbennig Lle Aeth Pawb? yn dathlu cyfraniad merched i fyd cerddoriaeth boblogaidd Cymru'r '60au a'r '70au. Celebrating women in Welsh popular music in the 60s and 70s.


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-In the 1960s and early 1970s,

-young women came to the fore...

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-..in the Welsh pop music scene

-for the first time.

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-It was a very exciting period.

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-It was natural.

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-We had so much fun.

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-It was of its time.

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-It's possible that Y Diliau

-were the first girl band.

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-It was very glamorous.

-I was successful.

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-Fifty years later, what happened

-to these women? Where did they go?

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-It's a special night

-at Galeri, Caernarfon.

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-The Sain record label is launching

-a compilation of songs...

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-..sung by women

-in the 1960s and 1970s.

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-Among the guests are artists

-and fans who remember the period.

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-It all started a few months back...

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-..when Sain trawled through

-a large collection of old records.

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-When going through this archive...

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-..it struck us

-how many women were singing.

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-We were aware of a very lively music

-scene in the 1960s and 1970s...

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-..in Wales.

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-But we hadn't realized

-how many women were singing.

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-Something happened

-in the early 1960s.

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-Women started finding their voice.

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-It was so much fun.

-Everything was brand new.

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-Women back then

-had an aura of adventure about them.

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-There was a revolution.

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-Clothes became a lot more colourful.

-Skirts became shorter.

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-Men wore wide flares

-and shirts with long collars.

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-It was an exciting period.

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-Women were finding their place

-in all sorts of areas...

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-..especially in music in Wales.

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-For many of them,

-singing was a way of life.

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-In the chapel, Sunday school

-or at school.

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-The Urdd

-and young farmers' clubs too.

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-Singing was their life.

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-You got the impression that

-something was starting to happen.

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-I think it all started

-with these groups, these people.

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-During the 1960s, hundreds of songs

-were recorded by young women.

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-The names that stand out for me...

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-..are Eleri Llwyd, Heather Jones...

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-..Mari Griffith and Rosalind Lloyd.

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-Mari Griffith is different

-to many in the collection...

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-..as she was professional.

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-You'd describe her as groovy.

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-She had a late '60s sound.

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-Tammy Jones.

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-She filled the television screen

-even though she was so petite.

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-# Just a purple moon... #

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-As well as soloists,

-groups were formed.

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-One of these was Y Pelydrau

-from Trawsfynydd.

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-We had to include Y Pelydrau

-in the collection.

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-They made countless records...

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-..in a short period of time

-in the 1960s and 1970s.

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-Talking to people about the singers

-around at the time...

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-..Y Pelydrau are mentioned a lot.

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-Everyone talks about them.

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-Cool dudes.

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-Ordinary people from Traws.

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-Working class people

-writing brilliant tunes.

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-# Do you remember

-walking along the path?

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-# The spring sunshine in your hair #

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-Today, three members of Y Pelydrau,

-Susan, Gwenan and Edith...

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-..are back together in Trawsfynydd.

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-For the first time in many years...

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-..they watch a film about Y Pelydrau

-from 1969.

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-There we are.

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-In the film as well is Glenys,

-who died in 1992...

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-..and Gareth, who couldn't join them

-because of illness.

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-We look so young.

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-Look at the bloke

-who hung out the helicopter...

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-..every time we kissed.

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-There we are. The first kiss!

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-He looked good there.

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-Here we are sliding down.

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-This is probably

-where you hurt your leg.

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-Glenys.

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-Glenys.

-

-She's so pretty.

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-Another kiss.

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-It was fun.

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-We travelled all over Wales

-and England...

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-..to do gigs.

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-We had a lot of fun.

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-The name

-came from the power station.

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-I'm not sure who came up with it.

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-It was Pelydrau X at the start.

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-X-rays.

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-Edith worked at the power station.

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-There was a link.

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-But then we dropped the X.

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-Traws has always been

-a cultured village.

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-From the age of four,

-we recited and sang.

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-Yes.

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-We didn't know any different.

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-But there was nothing else.

-It's what we did at that time.

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-We'd go to eisteddfodau

-all over the place.

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-What makes the singing unique

-and very Welsh...

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-..is the folky sound and cerdd dant

-or penillion stamp on the singing.

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-Many had been brought up...

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-..singing folk and cerdd dant

-at eisteddfodau.

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-It can be clearly heard

-in the songs.

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-This music scene grew organically

-in Wales at the time.

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-The bands of young women

-and young men...

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-..originated in their communities.

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-They performed and became successful

-in their communities.

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-Their name became known.

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-Joe Jones at Cambrian Records or

-Dennis Rees at Wren Records...

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-..would then hear about them

-and invite them to make a record.

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-# I walked along the estuaries

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-# Nervously in the windy moorland #

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-A lot of this collection

-has a very raw sound.

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-The technology in Wales...

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-..was nothing compared

-to what was available in England.

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-So what we hear

-is a village hall sound.

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-One microphone

-in the middle of the room.

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-It was the true acoustic sound

-of village halls in the 1960s.

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-I can almost imagine myself

-in Trawsfynydd...

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-..in 1962 sitting in an empty,

-cold village hall.

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-That's the sound you hear...

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-..one microphone

-with the women stood around it.

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-But recording techniques

-developed quickly.

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-By 1969, there was another group

-with a unique sound on the scene.

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-# The boat is sailing,

-leaving the land

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-# The long ropes are removed #

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-Who doesn't remember Y Diliau?

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-How many venues have had

-the pleasure of hosting Y Diliau?

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-I started collecting

-Welsh records...

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-..in order to sample them

-in a hip-hop group I used to be in.

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-I didn't buy anything older

-than the 1970s.

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-Somehow, I was taught that

-Welsh music in the 1960s was naff.

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-But one day in Penygroes,

-I found a pile of stuff by Y Diliau.

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-I went home, played them

-and my mind was changed completely.

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-In a hotel near Cardiff, Gaynor,

-Mair and Meleri from Y Diliau...

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-..are celebrating 50 years

-since their record was released.

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-Fifty years!

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-Can you believe it's that long ago?

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-It's incredible.

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-It's incredible.

-

-It doesn't feel that long.

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-It feels like yesterday.

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-And that people are still interested

-to this day.

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-It's possible that Y Diliau

-were the first girl band.

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-My background was more in pop songs.

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-The other two were more serious

-in terms of singing.

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-Meleri had a rich, melodic voice.

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-# The time moving on

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-# We're still searching

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-# Love for the lover

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-# Goodness for the good

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-# Gifts for the giver

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-# And life goes on #

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-The harmonies are perfect.

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-The guitar sound, though raw...

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-..has been played so clearly and

-perfectly, which matches the voices.

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-Y Diliau had a sophistication.

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-That's what changed, to an extent.

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-There was a need

-for a more sophisticated attitude...

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-..to the songs...

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-..to the image...

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-..and the way

-the groups saw themselves...

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-..and the way they wanted

-the audience to see them.

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-Gaynor was always

-very interested in fashion.

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-She's still the same.

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-She brought ideas

-on what we could wear as a group.

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-We always tried to wear

-the same sort of clothes.

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-We'd sometimes argue because we

-didn't agree what we should wear.

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-When I wore short outfits

-on tall stages...

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-..there'd be a row of boys

-at the front!

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-Looking up!

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-We were all innocent

-until someone told us.

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-The cover of Y Diliau's EP

-made a big impression.

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-You had the three of them

-with a smart sophistication...

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-..sitting on the bonnet

-of a Gilbern car.

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-Gilberns were manufactured in Wales.

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-It was a beautiful

-and sophisticated image.

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-Sexy even.

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-There are a few Gilberns

-still around.

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-So, Y Diliau

-are going to take the opportunity...

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-..to recreate their record cover.

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-Oh!

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-That's fantastic.

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-That's superb. Look at

-the Welsh dragon at the front.

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-Great. OK.

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-It's fun, isn't it?

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-Can you put your left arm

-over your right leg?

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-We haven't changed.

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-But we've had more experiences

-as everyone else would have.

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-We had pleasure from singing

-and from being together.

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-There was friendship

-and there were opportunities.

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-We had a great time.

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-It was well worth it.

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-Ready? One, two, three.

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-# Tell me your secret

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-# I'm enveloped

-in your sweet sounds #

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-In a special night in Caernarfon...

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-..to celebrate women's contribution

-to pop music...

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-..an iconic voice from Welsh country

-music entertains the crowd.

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-# I hear the storm outside

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-# Roaring and ripping

-through the land

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-# But a far worse storm than that

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-# Came to me later on #

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-Doreen Davies, Doreen Lewis now...

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-..the queen of country music.

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-Looking back at 1960 music...

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-..I don't know how you'd define it

-in modern terms.

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-It's not folk singing.

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-A lot of it isn't pop music

-or country music.

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-Some artists

-had their own niche or style.

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-Doreen was one of these.

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-She sang country music

-from the beginning.

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-She still carries the mantle of

-Queen of Welsh Country Music today.

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-# The storm in my heart is stronger

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-# Than any storm in the world #

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-Doreen does sound different

-to the others.

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-She makes me think

-of a night out in Tregaron...

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-..in the early 1970s.

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-Everyone drinking cider.

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-It's hard to describe.

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-Another popular voice

-in the early 1970s was Eleri Llwyd.

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-# On the mountain

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-# There's a white cloud

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-# The sun is dancing

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-# On the lake

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-# The church door is locked #

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-From my experience

-of playing songs on the radio...

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-..one voice elicits a response of

-"why don't we hear more of her?"

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-Eleri Llwyd.

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-Eleri Llwyd, in contrast to many

-of the women from these records...

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-..doesn't sound like

-she's at an eisteddfod.

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-It's a more natural voice.

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-It's more similar

-to an Anglo-American sound.

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-There's something magical

-and mysterious about her.

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-The cover of one of her records

-says it all.

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-You don't know what she's

-thinking about but it draws you in.

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-It's almost like the Mona Lisa.

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-That's her secret, I think.

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-# Lonely

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-# I'm lonely tonight #

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-As Sain drew up their compilation,

-one name was a source of mystery.

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-We've been able to contact all the

-women apart from Janet Humphreys.

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-I remember the name

-but not much else.

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-I sometimes met her when

-entertaining at a noson lawen...

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-..or on the TV programme

-Disc A Dawn.

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-She sounds unique.

-She's not like anyone else.

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-There's something different

-about her songs.

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-There's an element of mystery...

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-..because we don't know much

-about her.

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-It would be nice

-to know more about her.

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-Gwenan's wish becomes true

-at the launch night in Galeri.

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-Sorry to intrude.

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-My name is Gwen.

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-I know you live in Pwllheli.

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-Guess who she is.

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-You're not Janet, are you?

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-You're not Janet, are you?

-

-Yes, Janet Humphreys.

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-Nice to meet you!

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-Nice to meet you!

-

-I can't believe it!

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-These days,

-Janet works in the health service.

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-She's still singing.

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-Once a week, I go

-to the Singing For Breathing group.

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-It's a group for patients

-with respiratory problems.

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-We do some breathing techniques

-and also some singing...

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-..with patients

-who are in the community.

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-# Oh, I love you

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-# Oh, I love you

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-# The girl at the seaside #

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-I finished singing

-just before I was 16.

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-I don't think I've ever missed it.

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-At the time,

-I really enjoyed what I did.

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-I first made my record at the age

-of 13, which was very, very young.

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-My brief career came to an end

-just before my 16th birthday.

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-It was out of choice really.

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-I felt that the whole thing

-was moving too fast for me.

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-I was still very young, still

-wanting to do what teenagers do.

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-So I decided it wasn't the road

-for me to go down at the time.

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-When I look back, I do wonder

-sometimes what might have been.

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-What could have happened. Would

-I have gone any further with it?

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-Then again, you go through life

-wondering what if?

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-I've no real regrets.

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-# Happy birthday to my darling #

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-Another on Sain's compilation, who

-hasn't been heard much in Wales...

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-..but who's had a successful career

-as a singer in England...

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-..is Evelyn Bridger.

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-I have to admit, hand on heart,

-I don't remember Evelyn Bridger.

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-Evelyn Bridger

-isn't a name that's familiar to me.

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-To my shame, she sung in Singapore.

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-She was a singer in Singapore!

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-Evelyn has a voice

-that is scared of nothing.

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-It's huge.

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-She's a small woman.

-It's hard to believe.

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-When I left school,

-I used to sing in groups.

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-A few years after that, I met Rod.

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-He had a group from RAF Valley.

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-We met

-at the Memorial Hall in Amlwch.

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-The rest is history.

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-I sang with the group...

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-..and married him eventually,

-around two years later.

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-The group started to gig

-beyond Anglesey and Caernarfon.

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-We started to go

-to Liverpool, Llandudno and Rhyl.

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-We sang hits by Connie Francis,

-Brenda Lee...

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-..Dusty Springfield

-and Sandie Shaw.

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-They were successful evenings.

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-We were semi-professional.

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-We had a lot to learn.

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-But we had the chance

-to work with others and to sing.

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-That was the important thing to me!

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-But in 1966,

-things changed for Evelyn...

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-..when her husband Rodney

-was sent to Singapore with the RAF.

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-A girl from Cemaes Bay

-moving to Singapore for three years.

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-I didn't come home

-in those three years.

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-It was a shock.

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-It was a shock

-to the family and to me.

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-We weren't sure

-what I was going to do.

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-Luckily,

-I found there were auditions.

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-I went for a singing audition

-with a big hotel.

0:20:470:20:52

-I was successful.

0:20:530:20:56

-I got a job at the hotel

-singing every night.

0:20:570:21:01

-Most of the people who came

-to the hotel worked out there.

0:21:020:21:07

-They were expats, people from

-other countries who lived there.

0:21:070:21:12

-The place was up-and-coming.

0:21:130:21:17

-There was a lot of money there.

0:21:170:21:19

-It was very glamorous.

-I had to be first class.

0:21:200:21:24

-I wore my hair up at that time.

0:21:240:21:28

-I went to the hairdresser every day

-to have an updo.

0:21:280:21:31

-I couldn't do it myself.

0:21:320:21:33

-I wore make-up

-and a glamorous dress every night.

0:21:330:21:38

-A taxi would come and get me

-and take me home.

0:21:390:21:43

-I started to get other offers.

0:21:440:21:46

-Someone phoned me asking

-if I'd like to make a record.

0:21:460:21:50

-I did.

0:21:500:21:51

-It went to number one.

0:21:520:21:54

-I found it funny because

-when I walked down the street...

0:21:540:21:59

-..I could hear it being played.

0:21:590:22:01

-I'd be thinking,

-"That's me, a girl from Cemaes!

0:22:010:22:04

-"They're listening to me sing!"

0:22:050:22:07

-Then there were other offers

-from television and radio.

0:22:070:22:12

-I was given many opportunities

-out there.

0:22:120:22:16

-But this golden age came to an end

-in 1968.

0:22:170:22:20

-It was time for Evelyn and her

-husband to return to Britain.

0:22:210:22:25

-When I returned from Singapore,

-it was a rude awakening.

0:22:250:22:29

-It was a shock.

0:22:290:22:31

-In a way,

-I had to start from scratch.

0:22:310:22:34

-The clubs were tough.

0:22:350:22:37

-A lot of people

-had been doing it for years.

0:22:380:22:41

-You tried to prove to the agents

-that you could do it.

0:22:420:22:46

-I knew I could.

0:22:460:22:48

-But it was very tough...

0:22:480:22:51

-..to prove that I was good enough

-to carry on.

0:22:510:22:55

-But I did carry on!

0:22:560:22:58

-Working at workingmen's clubs

-is what gave me the experience.

0:22:580:23:04

-I learnt.

0:23:040:23:05

-You need to have an act.

0:23:050:23:07

-Talk to them.

0:23:070:23:09

-Singing wasn't enough,

-you have to talk to them.

0:23:100:23:13

-That's why it's called an act.

0:23:130:23:15

-When you have an act,

-you can go anywhere.

0:23:150:23:18

-That looks better.

0:23:190:23:20

-You're probably right.

0:23:210:23:23

-Evelyn stuck at it...

0:23:230:23:25

-..and has had a successful career

-in England for over 50 years.

0:23:250:23:29

-I don't think anyone in Wales

-knows about what I've done...

0:23:300:23:34

-..and that I've had the chance to

-work with people like Les Dawson...

0:23:340:23:40

-..Dave Allen, Cannon and Ball

-and Cliff Richard.

0:23:400:23:44

-Everything else

-would come to you then.

0:23:440:23:47

-Cruises and so on.

0:23:470:23:49

-But you have to work to get those.

0:23:500:23:52

-That's important.

0:23:520:23:54

-Once you prove you can do it,

-that's it.

0:23:540:23:58

-The opportunities are there,

-like they were for me.

0:23:590:24:02

-Today, she's rehearsing

-for a new season...

0:24:020:24:06

-..in a theatre in Great Yarmouth.

0:24:060:24:08

-# As long as life is long #

0:24:090:24:12

-I'm 73 years old.

0:24:130:24:15

-I've been singing all these years.

0:24:160:24:19

-I'm still singing.

0:24:190:24:21

-It's been wonderful

-singing for such a long time.

0:24:220:24:27

-I'm still singing.

0:24:270:24:28

-It's what's kept me young.

0:24:280:24:32

-It's a wonderful feeling inside

-when you sing...

0:24:330:24:37

-..and people are applauding you

-and wanting more.

0:24:370:24:41

-There's nothing like it.

0:24:410:24:43

-# You don't have to say you love me,

-just be close at hand

0:24:430:24:49

-# You don't have to stay forever,

-I will understand

0:24:500:24:55

-# Believe me

0:24:550:24:58

-# Believe me, oh

0:24:580:25:02

-# You don't have to say you love me

0:25:020:25:05

-# Just be close at hand

0:25:060:25:08

-# You don't have to stay forever

0:25:080:25:11

-# I will understand

0:25:120:25:14

-# Believe me

0:25:140:25:17

-# Believe me

0:25:170:25:20

-# Believe me #

0:25:210:25:26

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0:25:280:25:29

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-At a hotel in Shrewsbury...

0:25:430:25:45

-..a singer who's had worldwide

-success since the early 1960s...

0:25:450:25:49

-..is preparing

-for her final concert.

0:25:500:25:53

-I'm making an effort

-with my make-up for this concert...

0:25:550:26:00

-..because it's my last one.

0:26:000:26:04

-So it has to be special...

0:26:040:26:07

-..for me and the audience.

0:26:070:26:09

-I want them to remember me...

0:26:110:26:14

-..at the best.

0:26:170:26:20

-At my best.

0:26:200:26:21

-# There's nothing left

0:26:220:26:27

-# Past pleasures have gone #

0:26:270:26:31

-Helen Wyn from Talybont near Bangor

-started singing at a young age...

0:26:310:26:35

-..with her brothers

-and Hogia Llandegai.

0:26:360:26:39

-After changing her name

-to Tammy Jones...

0:26:390:26:42

-..she shone on the London Palladium

-stage and on popular TV shows...

0:26:420:26:47

-..before winning Opportunity Knocks

-in 1975...

0:26:470:26:50

-..and shot to the top of the charts.

0:26:500:26:53

-It all starts with Tammy Jones.

0:26:540:26:56

-But for her, I don't think

-a lot of these artists...

0:26:560:27:00

-..would have received such coverage.

0:27:000:27:03

-She's incredible.

0:27:030:27:04

-Forget Dafydd Iwan.

0:27:050:27:06

-Tammy Jones - Helen Wyn,

-started the pop scene in Wales.

0:27:060:27:12

-She doesn't receive half the praise

-she should.

0:27:120:27:16

-She should be a national treasure

-for her contribution.

0:27:160:27:21

-You're talking about a remarkable

-performer and personality.

0:27:210:27:25

-She had a lovely voice.

0:27:250:27:27

-You didn't forget Tammy Jones's

-voice. Helen Wyn's voice.

0:27:280:27:31

-Ladies and gentlemen...

0:27:320:27:33

-..would you please welcome

-to the Lazyacre stage...

0:27:330:27:37

-..for the last time in her career...

0:27:370:27:39

-..give a lovely, warm welcome

-to our friend, Tammy Jones!

0:27:410:27:45

-# I know I said that I was leaving

0:28:010:28:05

-# But I just couldn't say goodbye #

0:28:070:28:10

-When I'm singing onstage,

-it's a great feeling.

0:28:100:28:15

-When you walk to the stage...

0:28:150:28:18

-..open your mouth

-and your voice is like a bell...

0:28:190:28:24

-..and you hear the audience gasp...

0:28:240:28:29

-..it hits you.

0:28:310:28:35

-# Let me try again #

0:28:360:28:40

-I think I put my own emotions

-into the songs.

0:28:400:28:45

-All the songs are about something

-I've felt myself.

0:28:450:28:51

-I convey it to the audience.

0:28:510:28:54

-Sometimes, someone in the audience

-comes up to me and says...

0:28:540:28:59

-.."You're brought us together again

-with your song Let Me Try Again."

0:28:590:29:04

-What a shame it didn't happen to me!

0:29:040:29:07

-After a very successful career...

0:29:080:29:10

-..Tammy accepts

-that she's paid a personal price...

0:29:110:29:15

-..for choosing singing over love.

0:29:150:29:18

-I think I've been unlucky in love.

0:29:190:29:23

-There's no doubt about that.

0:29:240:29:26

-I turned one man down.

0:29:260:29:28

-I didn't want to marry him

-because I wanted to sing.

0:29:280:29:32

-The second time, he dragged his feet

-and I became fed up.

0:29:320:29:36

-The third time,

-when I decided I was in love...

0:29:360:29:41

-..I gave everything up for him.

0:29:410:29:45

-I gave up singing.

0:29:450:29:48

-I told him...

0:29:480:29:50

-.."I'm going to be your wife

-and stay at home with you."

0:29:500:29:54

-He left me.

0:29:560:29:59

-He really broke my heart.

0:29:590:30:03

-When he left me, it was only

-about two weeks before the wedding.

0:30:030:30:09

-We'd booked the hotel

-and the reception...

0:30:100:30:13

-..and people had given gifts.

0:30:130:30:16

-Everyone was coming to the wedding.

0:30:160:30:19

-But it wasn't to be.

0:30:200:30:22

-He broke my heart so much I vowed I

-wasn't going to let it happen again.

0:30:230:30:28

-The only shame

-is I didn't have children.

0:30:280:30:31

-But it wasn't meant to be.

0:30:310:30:33

-I returned to singing.

0:30:330:30:35

-# We can have it all

0:30:350:30:40

-# Just you and I again

0:30:400:30:44

-# Please forgive me or I'll die

0:30:460:30:50

-# Please let me try

0:30:500:30:53

-# Again #

0:30:540:31:04

-Tammy Jones!

0:31:100:31:11

-# Oh, let me see

0:31:170:31:20

-# Your face in all its beauty #

0:31:200:31:25

-Another singer from the 1960s,

-Mari Griffith...

0:31:250:31:29

-..believes there were social

-restrictions on women at the time.

0:31:290:31:33

-There was a lot of freedom

-in the 1960s.

0:31:340:31:37

-However, on the other hand,

-there were still restrictions.

0:31:370:31:42

-I remember getting married

-for the first time.

0:31:420:31:45

-I shouldn't have done it.

0:31:460:31:47

-After I got married, that was it.

0:31:470:31:50

-I remember trying for a job

-with the BBC at the time.

0:31:510:31:57

-I happened to say

-during the interview...

0:31:580:32:03

-..that I was engaged

-and about to get married.

0:32:040:32:07

-That was it.

0:32:080:32:09

-If you get married,

-you're going to have children...

0:32:090:32:14

-..and take the place of your mother

-if you like.

0:32:140:32:17

-Though we thought we had freedom,

-with the pill available and so on...

0:32:180:32:23

-..we were held back.

0:32:240:32:25

-In the 1960s,

-there was freedom on one level...

0:32:250:32:29

-..but it was curtailed

-if you got married.

0:32:290:32:34

-A woman's place at that time

-was at home.

0:32:340:32:37

-They raised the children

-and did community work.

0:32:370:32:41

-Everything was based

-around the family.

0:32:410:32:45

-That's how their life

-was mapped out.

0:32:450:32:48

-But there were others

-who saw beyond that...

0:32:480:32:51

-..and didn't accept

-that it was a woman's lot.

0:32:510:32:56

-There was life beyond

-those closed doors.

0:32:560:32:59

-# When he returns

0:33:010:33:03

-# We'll spend evenings

-together again #

0:33:040:33:08

-By the early 1970s, trying to

-balance a career and motherhood...

0:33:090:33:13

-..was a new challenge

-for Heather Jones.

0:33:140:33:16

-I had to think about the future

-and money and so on.

0:33:170:33:22

-I got married in 1970

-and had a child straightaway.

0:33:220:33:27

-Everything weaved together.

0:33:280:33:31

-I was still singing

-because I was the wage earner.

0:33:310:33:35

-Geraint was at university.

0:33:350:33:37

-Mam looked after my daughter,

-Mrs Jarman looked after my daughter.

0:33:370:33:42

-There were lots of people around

-to help.

0:33:420:33:45

-I don't think I turned anything down

-because of the child...

0:33:460:33:50

-..or because I was married.

0:33:510:33:53

-# Did you hear the trees shaking?

0:33:530:33:59

-# The wind punishing the leaves #

0:33:590:34:05

-Heather was a student...

0:34:050:34:07

-..when she recorded the song

-that's on Sain's compilation.

0:34:070:34:11

-She wasn't sure about the choice.

0:34:110:34:13

-I remember recording

-Rhaid I'r Plant.

0:34:130:34:16

-Geraint wrote the words

-and I wrote the melody.

0:34:160:34:20

-But I didn't really like the melody.

0:34:200:34:22

-Time was running out

-so I had to do something quickly.

0:34:220:34:27

-I went to Clydach

-to do the recording.

0:34:270:34:30

-After recording four songs...

0:34:300:34:33

-..I was taken to Aberavon beach to

-take the photograph for the cover.

0:34:330:34:39

-I wasn't very happy because

-I wasn't wearing nice clothes.

0:34:390:34:43

-I was just wearing

-something ordinary...

0:34:440:34:46

-..for the recording.

0:34:470:34:50

-So, I don't look that good

-on the beach!

0:34:500:34:54

-By 1972, Heather had her own series

-on the BBC.

0:34:540:35:00

-Her career's gone from strength

-to strength over the years.

0:35:000:35:04

-What is Heather Jones's secret?

0:35:040:35:07

-She's evergreen.

0:35:070:35:09

-She doesn't age.

0:35:100:35:12

-She's still like a young flower.

0:35:120:35:15

-Her voice is as beautiful as ever.

0:35:160:35:18

-The fact that Heather's career

-has lasted over 50 years...

0:35:190:35:24

-..tells you a lot

-about her character.

0:35:240:35:27

-She's looked after her voice.

0:35:270:35:30

-That's obviously paid off in spades.

0:35:310:35:34

-Her voice has lasted extremely well.

0:35:340:35:37

-She's also had success

-in many different styles of singing.

0:35:370:35:41

-From Colli Iaith by Harri Webb...

0:35:420:35:46

-..she had an electric period

-with James Hogg.

0:35:460:35:50

-She's been a bit of a chameleon.

0:35:500:35:53

-She's been flexible in the way

-she's looked at the music scene.

0:35:530:35:57

-She's very well respected.

0:35:570:35:59

-I recently won an Y Selar award...

0:36:020:36:06

-..for longevity or something.

0:36:060:36:08

-I'm very happy.

-It was great to be awarded it.

0:36:090:36:13

-But I'm just doing my job.

0:36:130:36:15

-I enjoy singing.

0:36:150:36:17

-I'm sure I'll be singing

-right until the end.

0:36:170:36:20

-I'll be singing underground!

0:36:200:36:23

-# Blackbird flying high

0:36:350:36:39

-# Your voice so pure

-singing through the land

0:36:400:36:44

-# So happy I would be

0:36:450:36:49

-# If I could fly with you

0:36:490:36:54

-# To foreign countries

0:36:540:36:58

-# Meeting people everywhere

0:36:590:37:03

-# Over the sea, over land

0:37:040:37:08

-# You laugh at us in happiness

0:37:080:37:13

-# So free we would be

0:37:130:37:17

-# Blackbird, blackbird

0:37:170:37:20

-# And me

0:37:210:37:24

-# Blackbird #

0:37:260:37:31

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0:37:360:37:37

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-At the celebration in Galeri...

0:37:460:37:48

-..the presenter, Beti George,

-is interviewing members of Sidan.

0:37:480:37:53

-The early days of female groups...

0:37:530:37:56

-..was influenced by chapels,

-Eisteddfodau and variety evenings.

0:37:560:38:01

-Then something happened.

0:38:010:38:04

-Skiffle music became electric.

0:38:040:38:08

-That was a key factor.

0:38:080:38:10

-But for us, when we sang in gigs, we

-had three guitars and nothing else.

0:38:100:38:16

-Once we went into the

-recording studio, it all changed.

0:38:170:38:21

-We had all this music behind us.

0:38:220:38:25

-When we sang to the public...

0:38:250:38:30

-..the sound wasn't the same

-as it was on record.

0:38:300:38:34

-In a recording

-or live performance...

0:38:340:38:37

-..the young group from Ysgol Glan

-Clwyd had a characteristic sound.

0:38:370:38:41

-HE HUMS CYMYLAU

-A SONG BY SIDAN

0:38:430:38:44

-# Clouds! Clouds! #

0:38:490:38:51

-# Clouds

0:38:530:38:55

-# Showing signs

-that summer's coming

0:38:560:38:59

-# Like the foam of a wave

-on a bright morning

0:38:590:39:02

-# Clouds

0:39:020:39:05

-# Clouds #

0:39:060:39:09

-Sidan changed the scene...

0:39:090:39:11

-..because they weren't like

-a traditional 1960s girl group.

0:39:110:39:15

-Their image was different,

-their ideas were different.

0:39:160:39:20

-They had a bit of attitude.

0:39:210:39:24

-That was nice. It came across.

0:39:250:39:28

-Everyone knows about Sidan.

0:39:290:39:31

-But we wanted to include them...

0:39:310:39:33

-..because they came to prominence

-with very different songs.

0:39:330:39:38

-They had great harmonies.

0:39:380:39:40

-Their recording method

-was quite advanced at the time too.

0:39:400:39:44

-# Lying in bed

-in my purple pyjamas #

0:39:450:39:48

-The scene was changing. Attitudes

-towards music were changing.

0:39:480:39:52

-Young people wanted to dance.

0:39:530:39:55

-The golden age of the traditional

-girl group was coming to an end.

0:39:550:39:59

-By the late 1960s and early 1970s...

0:40:000:40:02

-..I think it became obvious

-that the fashion was changing.

0:40:020:40:06

-Young people in the late 1960s

-and early 1970s...

0:40:070:40:10

-..were looking

-for something different.

0:40:100:40:13

-They got that through groups like

-Y Blew, Tebot Piws and Bara Menyn.

0:40:130:40:18

-For anyone listening to music

-outside Wales...

0:40:180:40:22

-..a lot of it seemed very sedate...

0:40:220:40:27

-..and very polite and safe.

0:40:270:40:31

-It's a very important period

-and a very important record.

0:40:320:40:35

-But in that period...

0:40:350:40:37

-..there was a definite shift in the

-type of music people wanted to hear.

0:40:370:40:42

-The move to the electric guitar

-and drums...

0:40:420:40:46

-..brought about the end...

0:40:470:40:50

-..of bands

-like Y Pelydrau and Y Perlau.

0:40:500:40:55

-People wanted change.

0:40:550:40:57

-Like for many solo artists

-and groups during this period...

0:40:570:41:01

-..the end came naturally

-for Y Pelydrau.

0:41:010:41:04

-We started singing in 1967.

0:41:040:41:06

-I think we finished...

0:41:070:41:09

-..in 1971.

0:41:090:41:12

-We finished in 1971 or 1972.

0:41:120:41:15

-Something like that.

0:41:150:41:17

-Singing was a hobby for us.

0:41:170:41:19

-Singing was a hobby for us.

-

-Something we enjoyed doing.

0:41:190:41:21

-We didn't think about...

0:41:210:41:23

-Oh, no!

0:41:240:41:25

-If it was about money,

-we wouldn't have done it.

0:41:250:41:28

-Some of those who were singing

-the same time as us...

0:41:280:41:33

-..continued to sing.

0:41:330:41:36

-Heather is still singing

-and has made a career out of it.

0:41:360:41:41

-We carried on for about 20 years.

0:41:420:41:46

-I don't think any of us

-intended to make a career out of it.

0:41:460:41:51

-We weren't interested

-in making a name for ourselves.

0:41:510:41:55

-Not at all.

0:41:550:41:57

-We had jobs.

0:41:570:41:59

-We didn't want to do it

-professionally.

0:41:590:42:02

-# Give me words #

0:42:060:42:08

-By the mid 1970s, Mari Griffith

-had changed direction.

0:42:080:42:13

-She went on to have a successful

-career as a presenter and producer.

0:42:130:42:18

-But it's words

-that are her forte today.

0:42:180:42:22

-I've always written.

-I always wanted to write.

0:42:230:42:27

-When I retired...

0:42:270:42:30

-..I thought, "What am I going to do

-with my life?

0:42:300:42:33

-"I have to do something

-or I'll go spare!"

0:42:340:42:37

-I'd always wanted to write a novel.

0:42:370:42:42

-So I thought, "Mari Griffith,

-put your money where your mouth is.

0:42:420:42:48

-"Now is the time. I'm going to try

-to write the novel."

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-The first novel,

-Root Of The Tudor Rose...

0:42:530:42:56

-..was Amazon number one bestseller.

0:42:570:43:00

-I'd written a bestseller!

0:43:000:43:02

-I had.

0:43:030:43:04

-So I thought I'd write another one.

0:43:040:43:08

-That's sold quite well too,

-which is good.

0:43:090:43:13

-I'll be writing another one soon.

0:43:130:43:18

-# Walking down the street,

-I see you curly hair

0:43:220:43:25

-# You wake from your daydream #

0:43:250:43:28

-Another of the solo artists

-has had an unexpected revival.

0:43:280:43:32

-Watsia Di Dy Hun.

0:43:330:43:35

-Watsia Di Dy Hun, Meinir Lloyd.

0:43:350:43:38

-Watsia Di Dy Hun by Meinir Lloyd

-has a new-found fame...

0:43:380:43:43

-..through Tudur Owen's radio show.

0:43:440:43:46

-Thanks to him and Dyl Mei, the world

-knows about the song again.

0:43:460:43:51

-We received an email one day from a

-regular listener called Arthur Owen.

0:43:510:43:56

-He said he remembered a song from

-the 1970s called Watsia Di Dy Hun...

0:43:560:44:00

-..and asked

-if it could be played on the show.

0:44:010:44:04

-We played it on the radio without

-knowing what it sounded like.

0:44:040:44:09

-A small risk but it's what we did.

0:44:090:44:11

-Mid-song, Tudur said,

-"I've never heard such a thing."

0:44:110:44:15

-He opened his mic and started

-shouting, "watsia di dy hun"...

0:44:150:44:19

-..over the song.

0:44:190:44:22

-# Watch yourself #

0:44:220:44:27

-Watch yourself!

0:44:280:44:29

-Watch yourself!

0:44:300:44:31

-Watch yourself, Manon!

0:44:320:44:33

-Five minutes later,

-there was a stream of texts.

0:44:340:44:37

-"Can we hear

-Watsia Di Dy Hun again?"

0:44:370:44:39

-Within days, for every show,

-"Can I hear Watsia Di Dy Hun?"...

0:44:390:44:44

-..requested by Meic from Bangor

-or Sioned from Pwllheli.

0:44:440:44:48

-It was a crazy response.

0:44:480:44:51

-It was definitely the biggest

-response we've had to a song.

0:44:510:44:55

-# Watch yourself #

0:44:550:45:02

-It doesn't sound like anything else

-in the Welsh language.

0:45:020:45:06

-It's totally bananas.

0:45:060:45:08

-There are high parts

-and quiet parts.

0:45:080:45:12

-One part sounds like

-the Wedding March.

0:45:130:45:15

-Meinir's voice is amazing.

0:45:160:45:18

-Well, what an unusual voice!

0:45:180:45:22

-There's some power behind it.

0:45:220:45:26

-She had character.

0:45:260:45:28

-There was something exciting

-about her.

0:45:280:45:32

-# Stand on your own two feet

0:45:320:45:35

-# You'll get your freedom soon

0:45:350:45:38

-# You can feel innocent

-with a clear conscience #

0:45:380:45:44

-If you could take the word

-"confidence" and give it a sound...

0:45:440:45:50

-..it would be Meinir Lloyd's voice.

0:45:500:45:52

-It's wonderful.

0:45:530:45:54

-It's not scared of anything.

0:45:540:45:56

-If anyone could lead us as a nation

-through a song...

0:45:560:46:01

-..that person is Meinir Lloyd.

0:46:010:46:04

-Through celebrating

-a golden decade...

0:46:060:46:09

-..in the history

-of popular music in Wales...

0:46:090:46:12

-..Sain's compilation has given the

-pop girls of the 1960s and 1970s...

0:46:120:46:16

-..a place

-in the nation's heart once more.

0:46:160:46:19

-Over the years, we women meet up,

-lose touch...

0:46:200:46:26

-..but through it all,

-song brings us back together.

0:46:260:46:30

-If we had our time again, I don't

-think we would change anything.

0:46:310:46:35

-I don't know about you.

0:46:360:46:38

-I wouldn't.

0:46:380:46:39

-It was fun and natural in a way.

0:46:400:46:45

-We had so much fun.

0:46:450:46:48

-I'm happy with my lot.

0:46:480:46:50

-I had a good career. I enjoyed it.

0:46:500:46:53

-If the young Heather saw me now,

-she would say...

0:46:540:46:57

-.."Good God! I didn't think

-you'd still be singing!"

0:46:580:47:02

-I hope I can continue.

0:47:020:47:05

-I am continuing.

0:47:050:47:06

-Many women

-have followed the same path.

0:47:070:47:11

-I'm proud of that.

0:47:120:47:14

-It's developed.

0:47:140:47:15

-There are more female singers

-and groups.

0:47:160:47:20

-I think that's wonderful.

0:47:210:47:23

-When we think

-about today's Welsh music scene...

0:47:230:47:27

-..it's important we remember

-where it started and how it started.

0:47:270:47:32

-Looking back at this period

-in the 1960s and 1970s...

0:47:320:47:35

-..the women are iconic.

0:47:360:47:39

-Without their contribution,

-in the 1960s and early 1970s...

0:47:400:47:46

-..I don't know where we'd be today

-in terms of our contemporary music.

0:47:460:47:51

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Rhaglen arbennig Lle Aeth Pawb? yn dathlu cyfraniad merched i fyd cerddoriaeth boblogaidd Cymru'r '60au a'r '70au. Celebrating women in Welsh popular music in the 60s and 70s.