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-In the early seventies, I wasn't a -member of Adfer, nor was I a hippy. | 0:00:13 | 0:00:17 | |
-But I was determined to live, -work and raise children... | 0:00:19 | 0:00:23 | |
-..in an area where Welsh -was spoken as a first language. | 0:00:23 | 0:00:27 | |
-Before completing my Zoology PhD -thesis at Cardiff University... | 0:00:40 | 0:00:45 | |
-..I married and moved to Tregaron. | 0:00:45 | 0:00:47 | |
-Tregaron was one of Wales' -most Welsh areas. | 0:00:50 | 0:00:53 | |
-More than 90% of the population -spoke Welsh. | 0:00:53 | 0:00:56 | |
-Looking back, -it was a good decision. | 0:00:57 | 0:00:59 | |
-Welsh is still the natural language -of every pub, shop and business. | 0:01:01 | 0:01:07 | |
-There's a nice sirloin -in the fridge. | 0:01:07 | 0:01:11 | |
-Finding a job wasn't easy -in the area. | 0:01:12 | 0:01:15 | |
-I'd have to make a living -by my own devices. | 0:01:15 | 0:01:19 | |
-My Welsh husband -moved here from London. | 0:01:25 | 0:01:28 | |
-He bought the 'Emporium', a former -clothes shop on Tregaron square. | 0:01:28 | 0:01:32 | |
-We renovated the place, and opened -a business selling Welsh crafts. | 0:01:33 | 0:01:38 | |
-I enjoyed travelling all over Wales -visiting various craftsmen. | 0:01:42 | 0:01:46 | |
-I was looking for examples of work -that was based on something Welsh. | 0:01:47 | 0:01:52 | |
-Something with a Welsh feel. | 0:01:52 | 0:01:54 | |
-I started asking hippies -who had settled in Wales... | 0:01:55 | 0:01:59 | |
-..to read the Mabinogion -and Welsh fables. | 0:01:59 | 0:02:02 | |
-This inspired them -to create individual pieces. | 0:02:02 | 0:02:06 | |
-This drew a favourable reaction. | 0:02:06 | 0:02:09 | |
-Regarding the influx -of newcomers to Cardiganshire... | 0:02:18 | 0:02:22 | |
-..I felt a sense of duty to convey -some of our history to them. | 0:02:22 | 0:02:27 | |
-My father, Prof Jac L Williams, was -from the Llanddewi Aberarth area. | 0:02:27 | 0:02:32 | |
-My grandparents -farmed in the village. | 0:02:33 | 0:02:36 | |
-I loved being on the farm with the -animals. I remember this clearly... | 0:02:36 | 0:02:41 | |
-..though I was only 3 when they sold -Caebislan, and retired to Aberaeron. | 0:02:42 | 0:02:46 | |
-Llanddewi's landscape and houses -haven't changed for centuries. | 0:02:57 | 0:03:02 | |
-The people and way of life haven't -changed much, either, in my time. | 0:03:02 | 0:03:06 | |
-Llanddewi is a church and parish. -There isn't a village. | 0:03:10 | 0:03:14 | |
-The church stands alone on top -of a high hill looking out to sea... | 0:03:14 | 0:03:18 | |
-..high above Aberarth. | 0:03:18 | 0:03:20 | |
-It's a pre-Christian Celtic -site of significance... | 0:03:20 | 0:03:24 | |
-..like many other ecclesiastical -sites in Cardiganshire. | 0:03:24 | 0:03:28 | |
-Many of the gravestones -attest to the maritime tradition... | 0:03:31 | 0:03:34 | |
-..of Cardiganshire coastal villages. | 0:03:35 | 0:03:37 | |
-My mother's background -was totally different. | 0:03:42 | 0:03:45 | |
-Her family were from Caerphilly, -and couldn't speak Welsh. | 0:03:46 | 0:03:49 | |
-The historical fortified town... | 0:03:49 | 0:03:51 | |
-..was built around the largest -castle of the princes of the south. | 0:03:51 | 0:03:55 | |
-Grandfather was a cobbler, -grandmother a dressmaker. | 0:03:55 | 0:03:58 | |
-Craftsmen, like me. | 0:03:59 | 0:04:01 | |
-I hardly recognise the place today. | 0:04:01 | 0:04:04 | |
-The language was lost -in one generation. | 0:04:05 | 0:04:08 | |
-Today, Welsh schools -are over-subscribed. | 0:04:08 | 0:04:11 | |
-A way of life -has changed completely. | 0:04:12 | 0:04:14 | |
-My memories of black-faced miners -walking home... | 0:04:14 | 0:04:17 | |
-..and women nursing babies in shawls -seem silly and romantic now. | 0:04:17 | 0:04:21 | |
-The contrasting backgrounds -gave me the best of both worlds. | 0:04:25 | 0:04:29 | |
-I was privileged to be brought up -totally bilingual. | 0:04:29 | 0:04:33 | |
-I can't say Welsh or English -is my second language. | 0:04:33 | 0:04:37 | |
-I've two first languages. | 0:04:37 | 0:04:39 | |
-It isn't just a matter of -two languages though... | 0:04:43 | 0:04:46 | |
-..rather of two cultures. -Two ways of thinking. | 0:04:46 | 0:04:49 | |
-My historical awareness -came from two different directions. | 0:04:49 | 0:04:52 | |
-One had a literary, -educational emphasis. | 0:04:52 | 0:04:55 | |
-The other was about belonging -to a country and landscape. | 0:04:55 | 0:04:59 | |
-Both families, -like other Welsh people... | 0:05:02 | 0:05:05 | |
-..put a great deal of emphasis -on formal education to get on. | 0:05:05 | 0:05:09 | |
-Both my father and mother -went to University. | 0:05:09 | 0:05:12 | |
-Dad and Granddad taught me the Welsh -names of plants and wild animals. | 0:05:12 | 0:05:17 | |
-Mother introduced me -to the English classics. | 0:05:17 | 0:05:21 | |
-When I was three, we moved -from Caerphilly to Carmarthen... | 0:05:27 | 0:05:30 | |
-..my parents, me, -and my little sister, Mair. | 0:05:31 | 0:05:34 | |
-My father -was a lecturer at Trinity College. | 0:05:34 | 0:05:37 | |
-Our home was an old mansion -which accommodated students. | 0:05:38 | 0:05:42 | |
-My parents were the wardens. | 0:05:42 | 0:05:44 | |
-When I was 9, Dad was appointed Prof -of Education at UCW Aberystwyth. | 0:05:50 | 0:05:54 | |
-Discharging his duties with -conviction and an individual mind... | 0:05:55 | 0:05:59 | |
-..from 1960 -until his untimely death in 1977. | 0:06:00 | 0:06:04 | |
-We moved to a big house -in Llanbadarn Fawr. | 0:06:08 | 0:06:10 | |
-It's still my home, -because my mother lives there. | 0:06:11 | 0:06:14 | |
-My father specialised -in bilingualism. | 0:06:16 | 0:06:19 | |
-He studied Quebec's -bilingual society. | 0:06:19 | 0:06:22 | |
-The name of the house -was a bit of a joke initially. | 0:06:23 | 0:06:26 | |
-In fact, it was sheer coincidence. -We didn't name the house! | 0:06:27 | 0:06:31 | |
-A study of -Aber's -bilingualism in -the 60s would have been interesting. | 0:06:33 | 0:06:39 | |
-I attended the town's Welsh school -for two years. | 0:06:39 | 0:06:42 | |
-That was quite an eye-opener for me. | 0:06:43 | 0:06:45 | |
-It was a shock to realise English -was the language of the school yard. | 0:06:46 | 0:06:50 | |
-There was almost a racist prejudice -against the Welsh language. | 0:06:50 | 0:06:54 | |
-Thankfully, -things have changed today. | 0:06:57 | 0:07:00 | |
-The people of Aber -are prouder of their Welshness. | 0:07:00 | 0:07:03 | |
-I was fortunate that my teacher was -the Crowned Bard John Roderick Rees. | 0:07:06 | 0:07:12 | |
-He prepared us for the 11+ -as the exam used to be called. | 0:07:12 | 0:07:17 | |
-The standard was very high, -higher than today's GCSE, I think. | 0:07:17 | 0:07:21 | |
-John Roderick Rees gave me an -excellent linguistic foundation... | 0:07:21 | 0:07:26 | |
-..in both Welsh and English. I'm -very grateful to him to this day. | 0:07:27 | 0:07:31 | |
-I moved to Secondary School - the -same building as Penweddig today. | 0:07:36 | 0:07:40 | |
-Ardwyn, as it was known, -was Aberystwyth's grammar school. | 0:07:40 | 0:07:44 | |
-Most of the lessons -were through the medium of English. | 0:07:45 | 0:07:48 | |
-The school had mainly traditional -English aspects... | 0:07:48 | 0:07:51 | |
-..though some subjects were taught -in Welsh for the first two years. | 0:07:51 | 0:07:55 | |
-That wasn't necessarily a bad thing. | 0:07:56 | 0:07:58 | |
-I was fortunate to be taught -in an academic environment... | 0:07:58 | 0:08:02 | |
-..by intelligent, gifted teachers. | 0:08:02 | 0:08:04 | |
-This was perhaps the best time of -my life. I was very happy in school. | 0:08:07 | 0:08:10 | |
-I enjoyed learning all sorts -of subjects - two in particular. | 0:08:10 | 0:08:15 | |
-I was pulled in two directions, -between Biology and Art. | 0:08:15 | 0:08:21 | |
-I had the privilege of having -Hywel Harries as my art teacher. | 0:08:22 | 0:08:26 | |
-He was here for many years. His work -can still be seen in the school. | 0:08:27 | 0:08:31 | |
-Having to choose between -the two subjects was very hard. | 0:08:34 | 0:08:38 | |
-At that time, academics -and teachers, and my parents... | 0:08:38 | 0:08:42 | |
-..thought art college -was for stupid people. | 0:08:43 | 0:08:47 | |
-The emphasis was on academia. -I ultimately chose science. | 0:08:47 | 0:08:51 | |
-I continued with my art -through college years as a hobby. | 0:08:52 | 0:08:57 | |
-My Biology portfolio was more -a work of art then a science paper! | 0:08:57 | 0:09:02 | |
-I studied Zoology and Bio-Chemistry -at UCW Bangor. | 0:09:06 | 0:09:10 | |
-Bangor had one of the best Zoology -departments throughout Britain. | 0:09:11 | 0:09:15 | |
-But I was disappointed. | 0:09:16 | 0:09:17 | |
-The narrow-minded scientists -had personal agendas. | 0:09:20 | 0:09:23 | |
-They didn't want to know -about the relevance of other fields. | 0:09:23 | 0:09:27 | |
-We weren't encouraged to think -or to nurture new ideas. | 0:09:29 | 0:09:32 | |
-We regurgitated -the lecturers' own ideas. | 0:09:32 | 0:09:34 | |
-Memorising Biological and -Bio-Chemical terms was a challenge. | 0:09:36 | 0:09:41 | |
-Whilst I followed a science course, -most of my friends studied Welsh. | 0:09:44 | 0:09:48 | |
-They introduced me to scholars like -JG Jones and Bedwyr Lewis Jones. | 0:09:48 | 0:09:53 | |
-I started to take an interest in our -early literature and folk tradition. | 0:09:54 | 0:09:58 | |
-I participated in the activities -of the Welsh Language Society. | 0:10:01 | 0:10:05 | |
-I decided to stay in Wales, and -live through the medium of Welsh. | 0:10:05 | 0:10:09 | |
-After graduating from Bangor... | 0:10:19 | 0:10:21 | |
-..I was invited to study -for my PhD in Cardiff... | 0:10:21 | 0:10:24 | |
-..through the medium of Welsh. | 0:10:25 | 0:10:27 | |
-No-one else had written -a Science PhD essay in Welsh. | 0:10:27 | 0:10:31 | |
-This ground-breaking opportunity was -enough to persuade me to continue. | 0:10:31 | 0:10:35 | |
-But I was beginning to have second -thoughts about a scientific career. | 0:10:35 | 0:10:39 | |
-By the time I'd finished -three years of research... | 0:10:42 | 0:10:45 | |
-..I was fed up with science -because of the need to specialise... | 0:10:45 | 0:10:50 | |
-..narrowing the field -of study and information. | 0:10:50 | 0:10:54 | |
-My interest was in the wider, -philosophical aspect of Biology. | 0:10:55 | 0:10:59 | |
-I found the necessity -to specialise frustrating. | 0:11:00 | 0:11:03 | |
-But more than anything, I realised -that a scientific career... | 0:11:05 | 0:11:09 | |
-..would mean laboratory work -in a big city. | 0:11:09 | 0:11:12 | |
-That wasn't what I'd set my mind on. | 0:11:13 | 0:11:15 | |
-And anyway, for too long, my art -had suffered because of science. | 0:11:17 | 0:11:22 | |
-Tregaron would change -that completely. | 0:11:23 | 0:11:26 | |
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-In the beginning, -we sold Welsh crafts in Tregaron. | 0:11:33 | 0:11:37 | |
-Soon after opening, I came across -an exhibition of Celtic treasures. | 0:11:37 | 0:11:42 | |
-Many of these superb works -struck a chord in someone like me... | 0:11:57 | 0:12:01 | |
-..who had fallen in love -with Welsh and Irish legends. | 0:12:01 | 0:12:05 | |
-I realised people who speak Celtic -languages have a unique heritage... | 0:12:06 | 0:12:11 | |
-..and how much the rest -of the British Isles has missed out. | 0:12:11 | 0:12:15 | |
-Creating within the Celtic tradition -would be my life from now on. | 0:12:19 | 0:12:23 | |
-Metal was the obvious -medium to choose. | 0:12:39 | 0:12:41 | |
-I hadn't been involved -with metals previously. | 0:12:41 | 0:12:44 | |
-I learnt to work with silver -and gold through reading books... | 0:12:44 | 0:12:48 | |
-..and studying experienced people at -work. I also experimented on my own. | 0:12:48 | 0:12:52 | |
-I didn't have specialist -equipment to start... | 0:12:53 | 0:12:56 | |
-..nothing but a saw and files, and -my parents' Black and Decker drill. | 0:12:56 | 0:13:01 | |
-Owning my own shop allowed me -to experiment with the market. | 0:13:03 | 0:13:09 | |
-Much to my surprise, -most of my pieces sold well. | 0:13:09 | 0:13:14 | |
-Things developed with time. I -didn't want to progress too rapidly. | 0:13:15 | 0:13:19 | |
-The market kept growing. | 0:13:20 | 0:13:22 | |
-I talked to a friend of mine, -Professor Leopold Corr from Austria. | 0:13:22 | 0:13:28 | |
-Many Celtic discoveries were made -in Austria at that time. | 0:13:29 | 0:13:33 | |
-He suggested I wrote to a highbrow -Austrian and German catalogue. | 0:13:34 | 0:13:40 | |
-Leopold helped me -with the German translation. | 0:13:40 | 0:13:44 | |
-Much to my astonishment, quite -substantial orders began to arrive. | 0:13:44 | 0:13:49 | |
-To make each one by hand without the -proper equipment was time-consuming. | 0:13:49 | 0:13:53 | |
-But the money was good, and I -was paid promptly and regularly. | 0:13:53 | 0:13:57 | |
-It's true to say that the German -catalogue established my business. | 0:13:58 | 0:14:04 | |
-The money was used to buy better -equipment, and I could work quicker. | 0:14:04 | 0:14:09 | |
-But in reality, the way I make my -artefacts and gems hasn't changed. | 0:14:14 | 0:14:18 | |
-I certainly won't ever -mass-produce them factory-style. | 0:14:21 | 0:14:25 | |
-The pieces are all -individual and unique. | 0:14:26 | 0:14:30 | |
-When most people -consider Celtic art... | 0:14:37 | 0:14:41 | |
-..they think about -intertwined patterns. | 0:14:41 | 0:14:43 | |
-Lines weaving through each other -in complicated, decorative patterns. | 0:14:44 | 0:14:49 | |
-Birds are a common feature -of Celtic art. | 0:15:02 | 0:15:05 | |
-Birds are a common feature in our -mythology and oral traditions. | 0:15:06 | 0:15:11 | |
-The starling in Branwen's tale, -Rhiannon's birds... | 0:15:11 | 0:15:15 | |
-..or birds used as love messengers -in our songs. | 0:15:15 | 0:15:19 | |
-The dragon, as we know it today, -doesn't feature in early Celtic art. | 0:15:32 | 0:15:37 | |
-The early dragon was more -of a water serpent or beaver. | 0:15:37 | 0:15:41 | |
-A strange, other-wordly creature who -lived in lakes, rivers and wells. | 0:15:42 | 0:15:47 | |
-Spiral patterns are a characteristic -of early Celtic art. | 0:15:57 | 0:16:01 | |
-Especially the 'Trisgell', -a spiral pattern of three. | 0:16:02 | 0:16:06 | |
-Three is central to the whole Celtic -tradition, and is extremely complex. | 0:16:06 | 0:16:11 | |
-It has run through the tradition -for 3,000 years and more. | 0:16:12 | 0:16:16 | |
-Because I'm known -as a Welsh goldsmith... | 0:16:22 | 0:16:26 | |
-..there is popular demand, -especially from overseas... | 0:16:26 | 0:16:30 | |
-..for Welsh symbols -in gold and silver. | 0:16:30 | 0:16:33 | |
-I often create love spoons from -gold and silver, rather than wood. | 0:16:33 | 0:16:39 | |
-I also make larger silver spoons - -the National Eisteddfod series. | 0:16:49 | 0:16:54 | |
-I made my first -for the Lampeter Eisteddfod. | 0:16:54 | 0:16:57 | |
-Appearing annually, they feature -each Eisteddfod's logo. | 0:16:58 | 0:17:03 | |
-They've become collectors' items -over the years. | 0:17:04 | 0:17:07 | |
-These are mainly for Welsh people. | 0:17:07 | 0:17:09 | |
-I never produce more then fifty -a year, and each is numbered. | 0:17:10 | 0:17:15 | |
-They're quite rare, and will be -worth keeping for the future. | 0:17:15 | 0:17:20 | |
-I've recently started working with -bronze. It's a new departure for me. | 0:17:32 | 0:17:36 | |
-Bronze was -the Celts' favourite metal. | 0:17:37 | 0:17:43 | |
-It was what they used most -in their everyday work. | 0:17:43 | 0:17:47 | |
-I felt this was relevant -to modern work. | 0:17:47 | 0:17:51 | |
-I wanted to make heavier and larger -pieces than what I was used to. | 0:17:51 | 0:17:56 | |
-Of course, this is rather expensive -if you're using solid silver. | 0:17:56 | 0:18:00 | |
-Bronze is much more suitable, -and cheaper, for this purpose. | 0:18:00 | 0:18:04 | |
-I've been fortunate enough -to have worked with Welsh gold. | 0:18:16 | 0:18:20 | |
-Welsh gold was mined -in the 1980s. | 0:18:20 | 0:18:23 | |
-I was one of only three goldsmiths -allowed access to it at that time. | 0:18:23 | 0:18:27 | |
-I was fortunate to live at a time -when Welsh gold was mined. | 0:18:28 | 0:18:32 | |
-Welsh gold isn't on sale any more -to people like me. | 0:18:33 | 0:18:37 | |
-It's not for selfish reasons I hope -Welsh gold is mined once again. | 0:18:50 | 0:18:54 | |
-It's an important part -of our heritage. | 0:18:54 | 0:18:57 | |
-The National Trust looks after -Dolaucothi Gold mines today. | 0:19:01 | 0:19:05 | |
-The mine was worked -until the late 1930s. | 0:19:05 | 0:19:09 | |
-But the history of Dolaucothi mines -dates back nearly 3,000 years. | 0:19:09 | 0:19:13 | |
-The Romans arrived -and began mining for gold. | 0:19:13 | 0:19:16 | |
-But experts have discovered signs of -earlier mining by Bronze Age Celts. | 0:19:17 | 0:19:21 | |
-It's good that people can appreciate -an important part of our history. | 0:19:30 | 0:19:34 | |
-But our gold industry shouldn't -become a mere tourist attraction. | 0:19:35 | 0:19:39 | |
-Tourism is, and always will be, an -important part of the Welsh economy. | 0:19:47 | 0:19:51 | |
-The popularity of Tregaron -and mid-Wales with visitors... | 0:19:51 | 0:19:54 | |
-..has been beneficial -to my business. | 0:19:55 | 0:19:57 | |
-But all businesses -have to broaden their horizons. | 0:19:58 | 0:20:01 | |
-When I started selling to America, -I had to correspond. | 0:20:02 | 0:20:05 | |
-This was a painfully slow process. -The fax speeded up the process. | 0:20:05 | 0:20:10 | |
-Now, we have a full colour -catalogue on the World Wide Web. | 0:20:10 | 0:20:14 | |
-This has transformed -a niche market, like mine. | 0:20:15 | 0:20:19 | |
-The possibilities for the future -are very exciting. | 0:20:19 | 0:20:23 | |
-Every artist is restricted, -to a certain extent, by the market. | 0:20:24 | 0:20:28 | |
-To make a living, one has to create -pieces that will sell. | 0:20:28 | 0:20:32 | |
-And since I run my own business, -the problem is greater. | 0:20:33 | 0:20:38 | |
-It's difficult sometimes... | 0:20:38 | 0:20:42 | |
-..to know where to draw the line -between what I'd like to create... | 0:20:43 | 0:20:48 | |
-..and what I know will sell - -what my customers will like. | 0:20:48 | 0:20:52 | |
-I'm not prepared to compromise -one way or the other. | 0:20:52 | 0:20:56 | |
-I would never make anything -I thought was ugly and tasteless... | 0:20:56 | 0:21:00 | |
-..just because it would sell. | 0:21:00 | 0:21:02 | |
-But not all pieces are for sale. | 0:21:06 | 0:21:08 | |
-Individuals and establishments -have commissioned me over the years. | 0:21:08 | 0:21:12 | |
-Pleasing the commissioner as well -as myself is an enjoyable challenge. | 0:21:12 | 0:21:16 | |
-For the series of Welsh stamps... | 0:21:22 | 0:21:24 | |
-..the Post Office asked me to make -the Prince of Wales feathers. | 0:21:24 | 0:21:27 | |
-I tried to make them look -like real bird feathers. | 0:21:28 | 0:21:31 | |
-The Post Office, not me, -chose the design. I chose the style. | 0:21:32 | 0:21:36 | |
-The brief asked for great detail, -and the best possible craftsmanship. | 0:21:36 | 0:21:40 | |
-Throughout my youth, I attended the -ancient church of Llanbadarn Fawr. | 0:21:50 | 0:21:54 | |
-Two remarkable -holy stones can be found there. | 0:21:54 | 0:21:57 | |
-Such stones are dated according to -the carvings upon them. | 0:21:58 | 0:22:01 | |
-Experts are convinced these belong -to the early Christian Age. | 0:22:02 | 0:22:06 | |
-The shape of the stones -are interesting. | 0:22:08 | 0:22:11 | |
-One is phallic, and masculine. | 0:22:13 | 0:22:15 | |
-The other is obviously feminine. | 0:22:17 | 0:22:19 | |
-Pagan and Christian traditions -have a great deal in common... | 0:22:24 | 0:22:28 | |
-..more than we are willing -to acknowledge today. | 0:22:29 | 0:22:32 | |
-I find a certain Celtic spirituality -in places like Strata Florida Abbey. | 0:22:36 | 0:22:40 | |
-This fascinates and inspires me. | 0:22:40 | 0:22:42 | |
-I'm drawn to the bond -between humanity and nature. | 0:22:45 | 0:22:49 | |
-The awareness that time, -and the age of man... | 0:22:49 | 0:22:52 | |
-..is nothing -but the passage of time. | 0:22:52 | 0:22:55 | |
-I know these are obscure things, -impossible to put a finger on... | 0:22:58 | 0:23:02 | |
-..but this colours the way I think, -and influences my work. | 0:23:03 | 0:23:07 | |
-No boundaries separate -two worlds in Celtic tradition. | 0:23:09 | 0:23:13 | |
-There isn't a boundary -between one art form and another. | 0:23:13 | 0:23:16 | |
-My work is a kind of visual poetry. | 0:23:17 | 0:23:20 | |
-A poet's work -is full of poetic imagery. | 0:23:20 | 0:23:23 | |
-That makes sense in Welsh, -doesn't it? | 0:23:24 | 0:23:26 | |
-In the same way, -the past is a part of our present. | 0:23:26 | 0:23:29 | |
-If I succeed in conveying part -of the richness of our tradition... | 0:23:29 | 0:23:35 | |
-..to other people, and to future -generations, I'm happy in my work. | 0:23:35 | 0:23:40 | |
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