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Good evening, this is Helen Mirren saying,

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welcome to the Graham Norton Show!

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APPLAUSE AND CHEERING

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This programme contains some strong language

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Oh!

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Ohhhh!

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Hello, hello! Oh!

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Oh! Oh! You're so kind. Hello, good evening, everybody.

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You're very welcome to the show, yes, you are.

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Thank you, that's very kind of you.

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Now, the weather may be cold, brrr, a bit cold,

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but the January holiday adverts have started.

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Oh! So excited.

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I can't decide which shithole country to visit first!

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LAUGHTER

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Yes, Donald's in trouble again.

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He's alleged to have used that word in reference to

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certain foreign countries. Yeah. But it's all cleared up now.

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Donald Trump has explained exactly what shithole he was referring to.

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Yeah.

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APPLAUSE

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President Trump also released the results

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of his medical exam this week.

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Trump has been given the all-clear in a medical report.

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Yes, apparently, he is glowing with health.

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Literally glowing with health.

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It's like a nuclear power station.

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The doctors did notice a small problem with Trump's artery wall

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but the good news is the Mexicans are going to pay for it.

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APPLAUSE

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Apparently, Ukip leader Henry Bolton has been under pressure

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to dump his model girlfriend because of racist texts she sent.

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Woo, you know things are bad

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if you're too racist for the Ukip leader.

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Here are the lovely couple.

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Now, as you can see, she is partial to a heavy sweater.

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She should go out with Boris!

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Let's get some guests on!

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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

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Later, we'll have a song from the winner of BBC Music Sound Of 2018,

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Sigrid.

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CHEERING

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But first, he terrified us in The Fall

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and seduced us in Fifty Shades Of Grey.

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Now starring in the final part of the trilogy

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Fifty Shades Freed, it's Jamie Dornan!

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APPLAUSE AND CHEERING

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Woo!

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They love you, they love you.

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Lovely to see you.

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Have a seat, have a seat.

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And this man's career has spanned over four decades,

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starring in films as diverse as Schindler's List

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and the action hit Taken. Now he's kicking ass again in The Commuter.

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It's the great Liam Neeson!

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APPLAUSE AND CHEERING

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-Hello, very good to see you.

-Thank you.

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Jamie, Liam. Liam, Jamie.

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And she is an Oscar-winning star of stage and screen,

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a true acting royalty.

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Now starring in new Gothic horror Winchester,

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it's a warm welcome back to Dame Helen Mirren!

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APPLAUSE AND CHEERING

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Woo!

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Hello. Lovely to see you.

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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

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-Marvellous, marvellous.

-Gosh, here we are again.

-Welcome.

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I like that you brought your own drink on. That was good.

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-They said I could.

-Please do, please do.

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I mean, Liam's brought a flask of tea!

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It's a long bus ride.

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This is my little security blanket.

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He's got sandwiches in a brown paper bag.

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-Jamie, you pre-ordered. Well done.

-I did. I've learned my lesson.

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Yeah. Now, usually, when I introduce the couch, I say,

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"Do you all know each other?"

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But, Jamie, you and I are a bit gooseberried

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because I think this is the first time we've ever had this.

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You guys, you dated at one point.

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-Yes.

-Helen and I?

-Yes.

-Oh, yes, darling.

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-Yes.

-We didn't date, we lived together.

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-We lived together, yeah.

-Oh, wow.

-Oh, yeah.

-Four years.

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Yeah, we were a serious item for a while, yeah.

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But I remember Ciaran Hinds and myself,

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-we did this film Excalibur together in 1980.

-Yeah.

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Our first movie for all of us, really.

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We were so green and ignorant about filming.

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But I remember being out of the set,

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this was in Ardmore Studios in Dublin and...

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..Helen had a break. She was filming

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but she was in costume and we were there just visiting.

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We hadn't started work yet.

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And the first AD or the second AD said,

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"Would you like to meet Helen Mirren?"

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I said, "Yeah, I'd love to."

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So, she walked from, like, 100 yards away dressed as Morgana Le Fay

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and Ciaran's my oldest friend and we both went, "Fuck."

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LAUGHTER

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You know, I was smitten. I think Ciaran was smitten too.

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-I was certainly smitten.

-I never knew that.

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You've never told me that before. That's amazing.

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-Aw!

-Never told me that before.

-Yeah, very good.

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Now, both from Northern Ireland. Do you live really close to each other?

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-This is the first time I've met Jamie, tonight.

-Right.

-Yeah, yeah.

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-But you're Ballymena.

-Yes.

-And you're Holywood.

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-Holywood, yeah.

-With one L.

-With one L.

-That Holywood, not the...

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And I'm Ballymena, with two Ls!

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-I should know this.

-And Helen's been there too.

-To Ballymena?

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Absolutely, yeah. To Liam's house that he grew up in with, how many?

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Five sisters?

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-Three.

-Three sisters.

-Yes.

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She forgets!

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In this tiny little house, you know, and these three sisters

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and Liam, all 6'4" of him, it was amazing, absolutely amazing.

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A wonderful experience.

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The Northern Irish accent was just voted

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the sexiest accent in the world.

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-AUDIENCE:

-Woo!

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-That's because of these two guys.

-It probably is, to be fair.

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-No, that's not right.

-It couldn't be right.

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But, as sexy as it is, I know that, Jamie, your daughter mocks you

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-for something.

-She does, yeah.

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Mocking me. Really pleased about that!

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Just turned four and she's already mocking my accent.

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I remember thinking it would be nice if she says the odd word

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in an Irish accent but actually she...

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There is a book that we read her every night called Bedtime Bear.

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And it goes round all these different animals

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that come out of places - there's a bison in a basin,

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and then there's, um...

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-IRISH ACCENT:

-An "oil" in a "toil".

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LAUGHTER

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And my daughter is sort of like quite posh and English

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and she's like, "An owl in a towel."

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And then we go, "Say it like Daddy."

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And it's amazing what she does, she goes,

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"An oil in a toil."

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Genius like that, it's very good.

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Now, we've got three movies to talk about tonight.

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It couldn't be more different. We've got horror, action

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and, of course, sex.

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-AUDIENCE:

-Woo!

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Now, Helen's film, Winchester,

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it's out on the 2nd of February.

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It's a spooky, supernatural film but what makes it stand apart is

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this is true, it's a true story.

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Well, it's a ghost story and it's a ghost movie,

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but it's based on a true...

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Certainly, the house exists, it's called the Winchester House.

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It was an extraordinary house built by this woman Sarah Winchester

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who I am playing who inherited the huge, massive fortune

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from the sale of the Winchester rifle.

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and the legend was that she was building this

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really extraordinary, complex and weird house

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where you have stairways that go nowhere,

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you have doors in cupboards that lead secretly into other cupboards

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that lead into another room.

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It's just the most extraordinary place.

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And the theory was that she built this to placate the ghosts

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of the people who were killed by the Winchester rifle,

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-the first repeating rifle ever invented.

-Yes.

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Before that, it was having to load the musket

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which would take two minutes before you could fire one more shot.

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This was a repeating rifle and you could just shoot ten people in a go.

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-So...

-Made famous, sorry, darling, by Jimmy Stewart.

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-Winchester 73 I think it was called.

-That's right, the movie, yeah.

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But it's not just her. People do claim this house is

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an incredibly haunted house and full of ghosts.

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Well, they do. Whether it is...

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I honestly felt, being there,

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I don't know if I would have liked to have been there for the night

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with only a lighted candle, kind of thing,

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but I felt the feeling in the house was one of,

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was a nice feeling, it wasn't a nasty feeling.

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It wasn't an aggressive, violent...

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There was a sweetness about it.

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I mean, I do believe houses...

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I don't believe in ghosts, incidentally,

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except I did think I saw a ghost on my wedding night, funnily enough.

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-Oh, yes!

-That's another story.

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-It wasn't my husband.

-OK.

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It wasn't a sheet shifting!

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It was you in a suit of armour.

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IRISH ACCENT: "Don't do it, Helen, don't do it."

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APPLAUSE

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But part of the story is that they're trying to see

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if you're mentally fit to run the company.

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They're trying to get the company off you.

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Yes, exactly. That's the story that we tell.

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A psychiatrist is coming because they think she's gone mad,

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basically gone nuts,

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and they want to wrest control of the company away from her.

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Well, this is the clip. It's the psychiatrist played by Jason Clarke

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and he's observing you communicating with the spirits.

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SHE GASPS AND WHIMPERS

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APPLAUSE

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Oh!

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-Never fails, does it?

-It's good.

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Everyone OK? Everyone OK?

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Medics!

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Mind you, talking of spooky, supernatural things,

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I don't know if you've seen this,

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this photograph appeared on the internet.

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And you'd think, yes, it is a bit spooky. But not completely spooky.

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And then you go a little closer. You go a little closer.

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OK? And you think, ooh, that is quite spooky.

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-Can anyone see what it is yet?

-You have a face?

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-There's a face on the knee.

-Let's go a little closer, a little closer.

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If you can't see it yet we will help you graphically here.

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Oh!

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LAUGHTER

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It's...

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It's Liam Knee-son.

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LAUGHTER

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APPLAUSE

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-That's great.

-You're not the only person to show up in unusual places.

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Please tell me there's one of me, too.

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No, actually, no. Actually, no.

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This one, oh, actually, there is one that could be you.

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So, someone was making a salad,

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just chopping a pepper. They chopped it and then saw...

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Can you tell who that is? Do you know who that is?

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It looks like a cartoon of, um, er...

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Somebody yelling.

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No, it's a cartoon of, um...

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It's not a cartoon. I'll stop you now.

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-OK.

-I'll show you. It is...

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Sly?

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Well done, you. Particularly in that picture it's him.

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-Not really.

-This person kept on chopping,

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chose an onion next, chopped up the onion.

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That is, of course,

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Whoopi Goldberg. There you go.

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Then someone was eating a cookie, a very ordinary cookie.

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But look who's in the cookie.

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It's none other than

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Sir Winston Churchill.

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Some of them are pretty easy.

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-Obviously, this walnut is Chewbacca.

-Yes.

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Some of them aren't so easy.

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Now, this one, it's some damp on a wall.

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This could be you, Jamie, that could be you.

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-Well, yes.

-Liam, Helen, me.

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It looks like Abraham Lincoln, actually.

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That's a nice...

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Does anyone want to guess who that's supposed to be?

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-David Bowie?

-Robert de Niro.

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No, not Robert de Niro. I'll stop it. That is...

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-Jean-Claude Van Damme.

-What?

-Jean-Claude Van Damme.

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That's a very good guess. But no.

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Jean-Claude van Damp!

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Funny.

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-No, that's supposed to be David Beckham.

-I was about to say it.

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-Oh! He was about to say it!

-I didn't want to make a fool out of myself.

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I can't see any face in there whatsoever.

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There's two eyes, a nose, a mouth, some hair and a lot of damp.

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And finally, someone was walking on the streets of Paris

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and they noticed the President of the United States.

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APPLAUSE

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OK.

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Liam Neeson's new movie, thrills and spills aplenty,

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it's called The Commuter, it's out now.

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It is one of those movies that's got it all.

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It's got action, suspense, thrills.

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It has been described as having a feel of a Hitchcock movie.

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Stephen King was very complimentary about it, wasn't he?

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Stephen King, it cost me a lot of money!

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Yeah, he was very complimentary.

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Yeah, it's called The Commuter. I play an insurance salesman...

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HE CHUCKLES

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It's not funny.

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..who gets sacked from his job because he's reached the age of 60.

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He's mortgaged up to the hilt, he has a kid about to start college.

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He gets on the train to go back - this is set in New York -

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to go back to upstate New York to tell his wife,

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break the news he has no job.

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And he is approached on the train by a very mysterious,

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attractive lady played by Vera Farmiga...

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-I don't know if you know her.

-Oh, yes.

-A wonderful actor.

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..to say, would you do this little thing for a large sum of money?

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Which is to find a passenger on this commuter train that doesn't belong.

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And you have to find him or her before the train reaches

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the final destination.

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And this one little thing, would you do it?

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My character accepts that, you know.

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Of course, it leads to a whole labyrinth

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of a huge criminal conspiracy.

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And the strange thing is, of course, with movies,

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this train, the line that it's based on goes past my house,

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upstate New York. I've been on this train maybe 80 times.

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You must have thought, oh, how lovely,

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this is seven minutes from my house, five minutes from my house.

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Exactly. And, for tax reasons, they shot it

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on a sound stage in Pinewood.

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LAUGHTER

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And they built a carriage, a carriage and a half,

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-and there's supposed to be seven carriages.

-Beautiful.

-So...

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Those scenes when you run the length of the train?

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-That took, like, a week to do that.

-LAUGHTER

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Because we just had one carriage.

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You'd never be out of breath. It was good.

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No wonder you looked so fit going down that train.

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And the art department slightly changed the carriage

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when you go home at night.

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So, for three days, you shoot in carriage one.

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And then, over the weekend, they'd alter

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the seating arrangement slightly for it to be carriage three

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for when you get back to work on Monday.

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Was there anything out of the windows? Nothing?

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-Just green screen, yeah.

-So, that all happened in post...

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That all happened afterwards, yeah.

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I mean, bearing that in mind, this is phenomenal.

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This is you in action. This is you being very annoyed

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with a fellow passenger.

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-Who are you?

-Calm down.

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Why are you following me?

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Are you the reason they're searching passengers?

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GRUNTING

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GASPING AND GRUNTING

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-Who are you? What do you know?

-GURGLING

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Oh!

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It is amazing!

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Yeah.

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You know, I was once on a train with Liam,

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travelling from Dublin to Belfast,

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and the amazing thing was that he knew everybody on the train.

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I think it's a bit of an Irish thing.

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-I'd say it is.

-But it was like, "Oh, hi, how are you?"

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"Oh, how are you doing?" "How's your mum?"

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"Oh, I saw your auntie, like, three months ago."

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Literally, every person on the train he knew.

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Jamie, you've a thing, when you go back to Northern Ireland,

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-you think people are coming up to talk to you.

-Yeah, they're not.

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They want to talk about my dad.

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My dad's an obstetrician and gynaecologist from home

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and he's delivered over 6,000 babies in Northern Ireland,

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which is a tiny place, so, a lot of people...

0:18:270:18:29

-Almost every woman knows him.

-Almost every woman knows him.

0:18:290:18:33

So, yeah, I'll be at a pub or something

0:18:340:18:36

and someone will come up and I'll go, this'll be nice.

0:18:360:18:38

A big fan of The Fall or something.

0:18:380:18:41

And then they'll be like, can I just say that your dad delivered me?

0:18:410:18:46

Is that it? Anything else? No, that's it.

0:18:490:18:52

Talking of fans approaching people,

0:18:530:18:57

after Taken, obviously, you got a lot of fan attention

0:18:570:19:00

and people coming up to you.

0:19:000:19:01

Tell us the story about... Were you in a gents or something?

0:19:010:19:05

Yeah, it's happened a few times, actually.

0:19:050:19:08

You're in a gents and you're doing your business

0:19:080:19:13

and someone looks at you and you're up against the wall

0:19:130:19:18

and you're doing your business,

0:19:180:19:21

and someone starts quoting lines from the film.

0:19:210:19:23

You're thinking, fuck, if I hear this one more time.

0:19:250:19:27

LAUGHTER

0:19:270:19:29

And then they finish and they zip themselves up

0:19:290:19:31

and they go, how are you doing?

0:19:310:19:34

LAUGHTER

0:19:340:19:36

That's the handshake of a man who's also had that happen to him.

0:19:370:19:40

I've had arguably worse. I've had a guy in a toilet,

0:19:400:19:43

doing the business.

0:19:430:19:45

I wasn't doing the business with him.

0:19:450:19:47

LAUGHTER

0:19:470:19:48

We were peeing at the same time in the toilet.

0:19:480:19:50

And he was like...

0:19:500:19:53

.."Oh, you're your man!"

0:19:540:19:55

I'd say, "Um, your man, yeah."

0:19:550:19:57

He goes, "I'd love a picture."

0:19:570:19:58

I say, "Do you mind if we just wait...

0:19:580:20:00

"..two minutes?" He goes, no, my wife will love it if we get it here.

0:20:010:20:04

I go, "No, no."

0:20:040:20:05

"No, no, no." Yeah.

0:20:070:20:09

Cos actually women are at an advantage, aren't they, because...

0:20:090:20:12

-No, we're at a huge disadvantage cos we have to queue.

-Oh.

-Yes.

0:20:120:20:16

And the worst thing is to be stuck in the queue, you know,

0:20:160:20:19

-wherever, in the airport or in the theatre or wherever it is...

-Yes.

0:20:190:20:24

..and you can't go anywhere and you're just stuck there, you know,

0:20:240:20:28

and then as word goes down the line that you're there...

0:20:280:20:32

You can't say, "Oh, I've changed my mind. I don't need to go."

0:20:320:20:34

I do, I changed my mind. I'll go and pee in the alleyway.

0:20:340:20:39

Now, Jamie Dornan's film Fifty Shades Freed,

0:20:410:20:45

it opens the 9th of February, and this is the third part...

0:20:450:20:48

WHOOPING AND APPLAUSE

0:20:480:20:50

With the strapline, "Don't miss the climax".

0:20:500:20:54

-They're all here, Jamie, they're all here.

-Yeah.

0:20:540:20:56

They're right there.

0:20:560:20:57

-We didn't do that on purpose.

-No, I like that. That's good.

0:21:000:21:02

They're obviously just very aggressive and fought their way

0:21:020:21:05

to the front of the queue.

0:21:050:21:08

So, this, I mean, it is a phenomenon, this thing.

0:21:080:21:11

-The trailer for this one came out...

-Yeah.

0:21:110:21:14

..and within hours, it had been watched by 26 million people,

0:21:140:21:18

-the trailer.

-Yeah.

-I mean, that's incredible.

0:21:180:21:21

-That's lunacy, that's what that is.

-Yeah, it really is.

0:21:210:21:23

And, of course, it must be odd, because you finished this film

0:21:230:21:25

a long time ago. You shot at the same time...

0:21:250:21:28

Yeah, we shot the second and third back-to-back,

0:21:280:21:30

so, you know, over a year and a half ago now since we finished,

0:21:300:21:33

so it sort of feels like a bit of a...

0:21:330:21:35

-It just feels in the past to me, a wee bit...

-Yeah.

0:21:350:21:38

..and we've all done...

0:21:380:21:39

I had a very busy schedule up until now,

0:21:390:21:42

-so it's kind of weird to be talking about it now.

-Yeah.

0:21:420:21:44

But here it is, and people want to see it.

0:21:440:21:46

There they are. CHEERING

0:21:460:21:49

Yeah, those people. Now, this isn't a spoiler

0:21:490:21:51

cos it's in the trailer and everyone's seen the trailer,

0:21:510:21:53

so in this one, Anastasia Steele, she's pregnant,

0:21:530:21:57

she is with child.

0:21:570:21:59

Did you...? Is that not...? Are you not in these scenes?

0:21:590:22:02

-Probably...

-I mean, God knows you've had enough sex. I mean...

0:22:020:22:06

It was only a matter of time.

0:22:080:22:10

She was meant to be, she was meant to be better about that.

0:22:100:22:14

Oh, I see. Oh, well...

0:22:140:22:15

There was meant to be things in place that meant

0:22:150:22:17

-that we didn't have kids.

-Oh, OK.

0:22:170:22:19

The other thing that was in the trailer that, oh,

0:22:190:22:21

people have gone crazy for this, this is Jamie's James Bond moment,

0:22:210:22:26

when he comes from the sea.

0:22:260:22:28

CHEERING

0:22:280:22:30

It's like we paid you to make these noises.

0:22:300:22:33

So you left Vancouver. That isn't Vancouver, is it?

0:22:330:22:35

That is definitely not Vancouver, no.

0:22:350:22:37

-That's in the south of France.

-Lovely!

-Nice.

-Yeah, lovely.

0:22:370:22:39

And, to be honest, we did that right at the end of the shoot,

0:22:390:22:42

after, you know, this whole sort of...

0:22:420:22:44

..massive journey, and all the stuff in France was jet skiing around

0:22:440:22:49

and swimming and mucking about on bikes,

0:22:490:22:51

and it was actually a bit of a holiday, to be honest.

0:22:510:22:53

But that was horrendous.

0:22:530:22:54

I mean, look, if they just tilted the camera down,

0:22:540:22:57

that whole moment, it was awful.

0:22:570:23:00

We had...

0:23:000:23:02

..the beach semi sort of closed off,

0:23:020:23:05

but actually there were loads of people on there

0:23:050:23:07

that we didn't have control over,

0:23:070:23:08

and then there was a beach down here and a big wall

0:23:080:23:11

and a street up there with hundreds of fans and paparazzi

0:23:110:23:14

and all just trying to get shots,

0:23:140:23:16

cos Dakota's wearing a tiny wee bikini and I'm wearing

0:23:160:23:19

whatever that clobber is. And so they had this whole thing,

0:23:190:23:22

they want me to be sexy coming out of the water

0:23:220:23:25

and the whole James Bond thing, but it's not a sand beach.

0:23:250:23:28

-It's one of those wee pebble beaches.

-Oh, pebbles!

0:23:280:23:30

-"Ow! Ow! Ow!"

-Literally, we've all been there, like,

0:23:320:23:34

you cannot look cool coming out of the water like that.

0:23:340:23:37

I was literally going, like, "I can't, guys." We did one take

0:23:370:23:40

and I was going...

0:23:400:23:41

And they were like...

0:23:440:23:45

-And all the paparazzi...

-HE MIMICS CAMERA FLASHES

0:23:450:23:47

"Guys, we're going to have to change something up here,

0:23:470:23:50

-"help me out."

-Yeah.

-So they put down, like, a wee carpet.

0:23:500:23:52

That didn't really kind of work.

0:23:540:23:56

It was kind of down but they put rocks on it

0:23:560:23:58

to try and keep it still. But it wasn't like a platform,

0:23:580:24:01

there were still rocks underneath.

0:24:010:24:03

And then I ended up wearing those little sort of guppy shoe things.

0:24:030:24:08

And it was like... They were like gel shoes.

0:24:080:24:11

And no-one in the world has looked sexy in those.

0:24:110:24:15

And, actually, I had to see the movie last week to do press for it,

0:24:150:24:18

and this whole thing, I mean, they used that as a still,

0:24:180:24:21

-but my exit from the thing isn't in the movie.

-Oh!

0:24:210:24:26

-Oh!

-That might be a pretty crap spoiler but...

-Yep.

0:24:270:24:30

DVD extras, DVD extras.

0:24:300:24:32

Let's watch a clip. This is yourself and Anastasia

0:24:320:24:35

-discussing your relationship.

-OK.

0:24:350:24:38

You do want to have kids someday, right?

0:24:380:24:40

Someday, sure.

0:24:410:24:43

You don't really sound sure.

0:24:460:24:48

You know what I am sure about?

0:24:480:24:50

-Hm?

-That's great steak.

0:24:500:24:52

Christian...

0:24:520:24:53

..do you not want to have kids?

0:24:580:25:00

Of course, one day. Just...

0:25:000:25:03

..not now.

0:25:030:25:05

I'm not ready to share you with anyone.

0:25:050:25:07

CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:25:150:25:18

You know, I have to say,

0:25:240:25:25

I loved this guy from The Fall, which is a fantastic series.

0:25:250:25:30

I can't watch those films because I made a movie with Dakota's mum

0:25:300:25:35

nine years ago, and I used to swing Dakota round...

0:25:350:25:39

..at the age of two.

0:25:400:25:42

So I just can't...

0:25:420:25:44

I can't see her as an adult, so forgive me.

0:25:440:25:47

I think I've swung her around a wee bit, too.

0:25:470:25:50

APPLAUSE AND CHEERING

0:25:510:25:54

-But even though this is the final film...

-Yep.

0:25:580:26:00

It's the final film, this is a bit of a spoiler,

0:26:000:26:03

sorry to disappoint everyone, you still don't go fully nude.

0:26:030:26:06

There's still no fully nude. Even on set you didn't go fully nude.

0:26:060:26:10

-It's true, he didn't go fully nude.

-Why are you saying it like that?

0:26:130:26:16

I don't know.

0:26:160:26:18

-I don't know.

-I think on set I was fully nude

0:26:180:26:21

but it wasn't part of the sort of creative process.

0:26:210:26:24

Oh, I thought the costume department made sure you were not fully nude.

0:26:240:26:28

Oh, I know where you're going.

0:26:280:26:30

OK, so I don't know...

0:26:300:26:32

I'm sure you guys have had to deal with this.

0:26:320:26:34

You get like a modesty patch for a woman,

0:26:340:26:36

like a little sort of strip that goes down there,

0:26:360:26:39

and for guys you get a wee pouch, like a...

0:26:390:26:41

It looks like something Robin Hood would carry coins in.

0:26:410:26:44

And it's got, like, a wee drawstring.

0:26:450:26:48

And on the first time we had to do a sex scene

0:26:480:26:51

in Fifty Shades Of Grey, the first movie, which is, what?

0:26:510:26:54

Four or five years ago now and...

0:26:540:26:58

..I was saying, "I've never had to wear one of these before," whatever.

0:26:580:27:01

And in my trailer they had a little display on a little velvet box

0:27:010:27:06

with all of these different pouches for your bits.

0:27:060:27:09

-Different colours or different...?

-Yeah. No, all skin toned.

0:27:090:27:13

-What, different sizes?

-Different sizes. Different sizes.

0:27:130:27:18

Different sizes, you know, from small up to whatever.

0:27:180:27:22

So I picked one out and thought, "I suppose I should try this on.

0:27:230:27:28

"Locked my trailer door here. Try this on.

0:27:280:27:31

"Oh, that feels all right."

0:27:310:27:32

And then I took it off and went, "I guess it's all right."

0:27:320:27:34

And as I took it off, it had a little stitch on the side that said,

0:27:340:27:37

"Inmate number three."

0:27:370:27:39

-Ooh.

-And it's clearly been used...

0:27:400:27:42

-Eww!

-..in some other film

0:27:420:27:45

where, like, some massive, like, prisoner has worn it.

0:27:450:27:51

But it was the one I was sort of most attached to so I sort of...

0:27:510:27:54

I think I just grinned and beared it, really.

0:27:540:27:57

-Ugh!

-You have to grin and bear it.

-You do.

-It's all you can do.

0:27:570:28:00

Helen and I had a love scene. I don't think it's in Excalibur.

0:28:000:28:03

No, they cut it out. They should put it back in.

0:28:030:28:06

-We had a love scene...

-It would be, like, historic now.

0:28:060:28:08

And I was in a suit of armour.

0:28:080:28:11

-And it was cut out.

-It was cut out.

-Yes.

-And do you remember

0:28:110:28:14

there was a huge eagle, they had a big eagle sitting on a perch, too?

0:28:140:28:16

-Vaguely remember, yeah.

-Yeah.

-Like a real eagle?

-Yes, yeah.

0:28:160:28:21

Was it a real one?

0:28:210:28:22

-Yeah, it was a real eagle.

-What, really?!

-Yeah, yeah, yeah.

0:28:220:28:25

-But...

-You were obsessed with me at the time.

0:28:270:28:29

-I only had eyes for you, Liam.

-You didn't notice the eagle.

0:28:290:28:33

-I didn't notice the eagle.

-APPLAUSE

0:28:330:28:37

But, Helen, you were then, of course,

0:28:380:28:40

were in one of those first kind of mainstream

0:28:400:28:43

kind of sexually explicit films, Caligula.

0:28:430:28:45

Well, it wasn't really mainstream. I mean, when it came out,

0:28:450:28:49

it actually only played in triple-X cinemas,

0:28:490:28:52

which is interesting, because now...

0:28:520:28:54

And I remember doing an interview at the time, saying,

0:28:540:28:57

"Yeah, it's really shocking now but I'm pretty sure that

0:28:570:29:01

"in 20 or 30 years' time,

0:29:010:29:03

"they'll be showing this kind of stuff on television."

0:29:030:29:06

-Yeah.

-And I was absolutely right,

0:29:060:29:08

because you look at what's on television now.

0:29:080:29:10

But, yeah, at the time, Caligula was out there, yeah.

0:29:100:29:14

And is it true that this was the movie

0:29:140:29:16

that your mother chose to visit the set?

0:29:160:29:18

My mum did visit the set - she did, absolutely.

0:29:180:29:21

It was the kind of set where, if you had clothes on,

0:29:210:29:23

it was a little bit embarrassing,

0:29:230:29:26

because nobody had any clothes on at all.

0:29:260:29:29

Little, maybe little wisps of see-through blue silk or something.

0:29:290:29:34

And I remember my mum sitting there

0:29:340:29:35

and she chatted, as you know, Liam, easily to anyone.

0:29:350:29:40

And she was sitting on the set with these two enormous golden penises.

0:29:400:29:47

It was ancient Rome.

0:29:470:29:49

And she's sitting there on her little chair

0:29:500:29:53

and one of the extras, very sweetly, completely naked

0:29:530:29:56

except from a little bit of blue stuff,

0:29:560:29:59

came and sat next to her, and she was just chatting away to him.

0:29:590:30:02

"So, what do you do?" You know?

0:30:020:30:04

"Oh, you're an extra. What is an extra?

0:30:040:30:06

"What do they do?"

0:30:060:30:09

What was she wearing?

0:30:090:30:11

Oh, she was wearing, you know, a nice...English lady's outfit.

0:30:110:30:16

I can't remember what she was wearing!

0:30:160:30:18

Probably a knitted sweater from Marks & Spencer or something.

0:30:180:30:22

-Proper.

-Yeah, very proper.

0:30:220:30:25

Now, obviously, three sex symbols on our couch tonight -

0:30:250:30:28

but, Jamie Dornan,

0:30:280:30:30

oddly you arrived at sex symbol status quite late in life.

0:30:300:30:35

-I did.

-Yes.

0:30:350:30:36

So, tell us the story about... I think you were...

0:30:360:30:39

What were you? About 15?

0:30:390:30:41

This is one of the worst stories in my locker.

0:30:410:30:43

-Unpack it.

-Big debates about whether I should tell it, but fuck it.

0:30:440:30:48

LAUGHTER

0:30:480:30:49

APPLAUSE AND CHEERS

0:30:490:30:50

When I was... It actually had a big effect on me as a kid -

0:30:500:30:53

it has a big effect on, I'm sure, lots of kids -

0:30:530:30:56

but I was very sporty when I was a kid, but I was a late developer.

0:30:560:30:59

I was small, I wasn't very hairy,

0:30:590:31:02

just one of those guys who was a bit behind,

0:31:020:31:05

and I was young for my year, and it had a big effect on me.

0:31:050:31:08

Anyway...

0:31:080:31:09

I was sort of balancing playing rugby at school

0:31:090:31:13

and doing a bit of amateur dramatics on the side,

0:31:130:31:16

and it all culminated in we got to the final -

0:31:160:31:18

Liam will know this - of the Medallion Shield,

0:31:180:31:21

which, when you're 15, is the biggest thing that could happen,

0:31:210:31:24

and I went to a school called Methody,

0:31:240:31:26

and we were playing against our main rivals

0:31:260:31:28

at Ravenhill, which is Ulster's ground -

0:31:280:31:29

and it was such a massive thing,

0:31:290:31:31

there was going to be a big party afterwards...

0:31:310:31:33

..but also, that same night,

0:31:330:31:36

befell the All Ireland final of the Amateur Dramatic Society

0:31:360:31:41

where I was performing Chekhov's The Cherry Orchard

0:31:410:31:45

and I think I was a waiter or something -

0:31:450:31:47

I was on stage a lot, but didn't really have any lines,

0:31:470:31:50

didn't have anything to say.

0:31:500:31:51

And I thought, "Right, I will be able to go, play rugby,

0:31:510:31:54

"hopefully win that and then go and do the play

0:31:540:31:56

"and then go to the party for the rugby afterwards."

0:31:560:31:59

Now, at 15 I looked about seven.

0:31:590:32:01

I had no hair or anything.

0:32:030:32:05

Anyway, in the play, they had given me

0:32:050:32:08

this sort of black, very highly flammable wig

0:32:080:32:12

that they used to cut off and Uhu to my face

0:32:120:32:15

to give me a beard, to give me the appearance I was older.

0:32:150:32:19

So I thought it would be a good idea...

0:32:210:32:23

LAUGHTER

0:32:230:32:24

..after the curtain came down on this play,

0:32:250:32:29

and I'm going to this party after,

0:32:290:32:31

and, you know, I might meet a girl and maybe she drops a hand...

0:32:310:32:35

LAUGHTER

0:32:350:32:36

So I had the idea to maybe cut off some extra hair off the very...

0:32:390:32:45

By the way, I was a very fair child, I had blond hair.

0:32:450:32:48

So I went into the dressing room

0:32:500:32:52

and I went into like the toilets and cut off all this very curly...

0:32:520:32:56

..jet, jet black hair,

0:32:570:32:59

and put it in a wee pile and got my Uhu glue and just...

0:32:590:33:03

..put it around there.

0:33:050:33:07

Stuffed it in. I remember standing in front of the mirror

0:33:070:33:10

and going, "That looks all right."

0:33:100:33:12

Just the lengths you go to.

0:33:190:33:21

Obviously, I went to the party.

0:33:210:33:24

I think I kissed a girl, urging her to sort of...without forcing her...

0:33:240:33:29

..urging her to sort of go down,

0:33:310:33:33

cos on this one... for one night only...

0:33:330:33:35

..it was actually quite an impressive place to put your hand.

0:33:350:33:39

Anyway, that didn't happen - and, actually, thank God it didn't,

0:33:390:33:42

because I got home and it was a car crash down there.

0:33:420:33:44

It was an absolute car crash.

0:33:460:33:48

Was the removal painful?

0:33:500:33:53

I'll tell you why the removal was so painful, physically and emotionally.

0:33:530:33:57

I did actually have about three pubes...

0:33:570:34:00

-..naturally developed pubes.

-Mm, mm.

0:34:010:34:05

-They went as soon as I...

-Yeah.

0:34:050:34:06

APPLAUSE

0:34:090:34:11

-What a lovely image.

-Yeah. Yeah, it was bad!

0:34:130:34:16

Thank you. Thank you for that story.

0:34:160:34:18

Welcome to the world of waxing.

0:34:180:34:19

Yeah, I know, right? Yeah.

0:34:190:34:22

Right, it's music time.

0:34:220:34:26

It is, it's music time.

0:34:260:34:28

This singer-songwriter is one of the most exciting pop stars

0:34:280:34:32

at the moment and has just won BBC Music Sound Of 2018.

0:34:320:34:35

Here performing her newest hit Strangers, please welcome Sigrid.

0:34:350:34:38

APPLAUSE

0:34:380:34:41

# Just like in the movies

0:34:520:34:56

# It starts to rain and we

0:34:560:35:00

# We're the broken beauties

0:35:000:35:04

# Blindfolded minds collide

0:35:040:35:07

# And we fall

0:35:070:35:09

# When the curtain drops

0:35:090:35:13

# Our touch is just a touch

0:35:130:35:17

# Not like in the movies

0:35:170:35:20

# Our story's after the end

0:35:200:35:24

# Like strangers

0:35:240:35:28

# Perfect pretenders

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# We're falling head over heels for something that ain't real

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# It could never be us

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# Hey, just you and I

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# Strangers

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# Perfect pretenders

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# We're falling head over heels for something that ain't real

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# It could never be us

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# Hey, just you and I

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# Memories in photos

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# Too easy to rewrite

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# Left as lonely shadows

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# Holding each other tight

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# And we fall

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# When the curtain drops

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# Our touch is just a touch

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# Not like in the movies

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# Our story's after the end

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# Like strangers

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# Perfect pretenders

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# We're falling head over heels for something that ain't real

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# It could never be us

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# Hey, just you and I

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# Think we got it but we made up a dream

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# Cos we got a pretty look of what we could be

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# I don't want you All you want is someone

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# Going home together to forget we're alone

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# Think we got it but we made up a dream

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# Cos we got a pretty look of what we could be

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# I don't want you All you want is someone

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# Going home together to forget we're alone

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# You and I, you and I, you and I you and I, you and I, you and I

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# Not like in the movies

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# You and I, you and I, you and I you and I, you and I, you and I

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# Not like in the movies

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# Like strangers

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# Perfect pretenders

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# We're falling head over heels for something that ain't real

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# It could never be us

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# Hey, just you and I

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# Strangers

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# Perfect pretenders

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# We're falling head over heels for something that ain't real

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# It could never be us

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# Hey, just you and I

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# Think we got it but we made up a dream

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# Cos we got a pretty look of what we could be

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# I don't want you All you want is someone

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# Going home together to forget we're alone

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# Think we got it but we made up a dream

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# Cos we got a pretty look of what we could be

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# I don't want you All you want is someone

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# Going home together to forget we're alone. #

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Wow!

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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

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Sigrid, everybody!

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Brilliant, brilliant.

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Come on over here.

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-Oh! That was phenomenal.

-Thank you.

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Thank you so much!

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Come and meet the others.

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Jamie, Liam, Helen, this is Sigrid.

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APPLAUSE

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-HELEN:

-You were brilliant, fantastic.

-We love that.

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Just to watch you come out and go, bash, just do that,

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it was wonderful, absolutely wonderful.

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That's Strangers - that single is out now.

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But we must talk about the wonderful prize, the BBC Music Sound Of 2018 -

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and this is a big deal.

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-I mean, it is.

-Yeah, you know...

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-Yeah, it's quite cool.

-Yeah!

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Well, no, because Sam Smith has won it, 50 Cent, Adele.

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Adele plays a part in your story somehow.

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Well, yes.

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So, Adele is probably one of my favourite artists,

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and I think the chorus of Rolling In The Deep,

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the vocal hook in that one,

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is probably the biggest reason for me making pop music.

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-I think so, yeah.

-OK!

-I'm a huge fan!

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So you heard that and thought, "I'll have a bit of that."

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-Well...

-Yes.

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-Yeah, it's cool.

-Yeah - and this year

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is going to be a huge year for you, isn't it?

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-A lot of travelling, yeah, it's very exciting.

-Yeah.

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Are you kind of focusing on Europe? Are you in America, as well?

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-Um, we're trying to do, like, all over.

-Yeah!

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Yeah, it's really cool - I'm going to Australia for the first time.

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Hopefully I will see some kangaroos,

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-that is like one of my dreams, that would be cool.

-You will.

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-Dream bigger.

-Yeah?!

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-HELEN:

-Most will be dead, unfortunately.

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Knocked over by cars.

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-Roadkill, essentially.

-Roadkill.

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-Don't forget to eat...

-Eat.

-..and get your rest.

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Yeah, no - thank you. Oh, yeah.

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There you go.

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I'm going home tomorrow, actually.

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Sigrid, there's time for that.

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Don't... LAUGHTER

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When you're 35 you can start eating well and resting.

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Until then, just go wild, yeah.

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Listen, I'm so thrilled for you, that's a beautiful song.

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If the album is as good, it's going to be great -

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and congratulations on the award.

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-Sigrid, everybody.

-Thank you.

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APPLAUSE

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That is nearly it for tonight, but before we go,

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time for a visit to that big red chair.

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Who's there? Hi, what's your name?

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-I'm Jamie.

-Jamie, lovely.

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-Where are you from, Jamie?

-I'm from Australia.

-Oh!

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He's from Australia.

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-Oh, yes!

-You must swap numbers.

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You can stay in his house.

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Do you work at the moment?

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-No, I'm on holiday.

-Oh, you're on actual holiday?

-Yeah.

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-What do you do back in Australia?

-I am a film student.

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-So...

-Oh, wow!

-I'll keep you three in mind.

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LAUGHTER

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What are we? Chopped liver, Sigrid?

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Off you go with your story, Jamie.

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All right, so this is my fifth birthday,

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everyone's given me some presents,

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my dad's shitting himself because he's forgotten to get me a present,

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so, thinking on his feet, he looks out the window and sees a pigeon.

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So he brings me over to the window,

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points to the pigeon and tells me that is my pigeon.

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So, being five, I believe every word of it.

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So - but everyone else is like, "What are you doing?"

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but I'm very happy with this pigeon,

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and so they kept up his lie for six years,

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and every time we were out and about when we saw a pigeon,

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that was my pigeon.

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Oh, very cute! You can walk.

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APPLAUSE

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-He doesn't sound very Australian, though.

-No, he doesn't.

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-He doesn't sound Australian.

-Very posh.

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Yeah, quite a posh Australian.

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-That was a pigeon on their estate.

-Yes!

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OK, let's have another one. Hello.

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-Hello.

-What's your name?

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-Isabel.

-Isabel, lovely.

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-And where are you from?

-I'm from Devon, but I'm living in London.

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-Are you?

-Yes.

-Ooh!

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-And what do you do in London, Isabel?

-I'm a student.

-Of?

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-French and history.

-French and history.

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-Both of those.

-Bonjour, Madame.

-Why do one?!

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Yeah, no - really, very good.

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And what do you want to do when you graduate?

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LAUGHTER

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Sorry, that was a silly question.

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I'm a fool.

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Don't know!

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Your parents have just thrown the television out the window.

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Yeah!

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Yeah.

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I won't press you.

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Off you go with your story.

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OK, so I was very hungover one morning,

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and I had a very early shift at a fast food kind of place.

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So I was quickly getting ready, I put my jeans on,

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I heard some funny sound, I thought, "Oh, it'll just be my zip."

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I did my usual 30-minute commute.

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So, I get into work, and my co-worker just goes to me,

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"Izzie, you know you've got a hole in your trousers?"

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I was like, "Yeah, yeah, it's just small."

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He goes, "No, no, Izzie, you've got a hole."

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I put my hand down and all I can feel is bare skin,

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because my trousers have ripped from my arse

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all the way down my thigh and I was standing there butt naked

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in front of everyone in the kitchen,

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all my co-workers and everyone in the restaurant.

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So I completely panicked,

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I ran into the kitchen to try and go back upstairs

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but I walked into the grill

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-so I burn the entire of my bum on the hot grill...

-Ooh!

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..trying to escape without any trousers on

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and had to spend the rest of the day in chef's trousers.

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Oh... Shall we walk for that?

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-You can walk, if you can.

-Yeah.

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Yes, there you go.

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APPLAUSE

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Yes - her shift manager would most probably be,

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"Put a hairnet on that."

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Shall we have another one?

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One more, yeah, go on, squeeze one more in.

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-Hello.

-Hiya.

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-Hi, what's your name?

-Angus.

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Angus, lovely - and what do you do, Angus?

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-Er, sales.

-Sales.

-Yeah.

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OK, he's not pushing it right now.

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What sort of things do you sell?

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-Er, gyms.

-Gyms? You sell gym equipment or actual gyms?

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Neither, really.

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This was a mistake, a terrible mistake.

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Well done, everyone!

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If you would like to join us on the show

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and have a go on the red chair you can contact us

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via our website at this very address.

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And that is it for tonight.

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Please say a huge thank you to all my guests.

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Sigrid...

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APPLAUSE

0:44:530:44:55

..Jamie Dornan... APPLAUSE

0:44:550:44:58

..Liam Neeson... APPLAUSE

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..and Dame Helen Mirren.

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APPLAUSE

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Do join me next week with singer Paloma Faith,

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actors Simon Pegg and Rebecca Ferguson,

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Superman Henry Cavill

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-and Hollywood megastar Tom Cruise. AUDIENCE:

-Ooh!

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I'll see you then - good night, everybody, goodbye!

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APPLAUSE

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