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Hello, everybody. I'm Adam Sandler. Welcome to The Graham Norton Show!

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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

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This programme contains some strong language

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Oh! Oh!

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CHEERING CONTINUES

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Ho-ho! Good evening!

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Welcome to the show!

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Wow! What a welcome! Best audience ever, I'd say.

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I don't think we've had an audience this good before. We haven't!

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Hey, everyone excited about Halloween coming up?

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CHEERING

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That frightened you, didn't it?

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You're thinking, "I didn't know it was Halloween."

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It's Halloween.

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LAUGHTER

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Quick, buy a pumpkin!

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Yes, it's Halloween, that time of the year when little children are

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haunted by the sudden appearance of a terrifying grey-haired witch.

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LAUGHTER

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Of course, we might be cutting that

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joke out if she isn't Prime Minister by Halloween.

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P45, anyone?

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We've got a packed sofa tonight so let's just get some guests on.

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Later, we'll have a performance from musical icon Morrissey.

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Morrissey will be singing over there.

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He'll be performing Spent The Day In Bed.

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But first, she's one of the world's most successful models, recently

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turned actor and now novelist - please welcome Cara Delevingne!

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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

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Hello, my darling. Lovely to see you. Have a seat, have a seat.

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She shot to fame as Queen Elizabeth in The Crown, now she hits

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the big screen in the true love story Breathe.

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It's Claire Foy, everyone!

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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

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Hello! Hi. Lovely to see you. Have a seat.

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And we've got two stars from the new comedy drama The Meyerowitz Stories.

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The first is one of America's funniest people.

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From Billy Madison, Happy Gilmore and The Wedding Singer,

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it's a very warm welcome for the first time to Mr Adam Sandler!

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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

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Hi. Lovely to see you. Have a seat here. Adam Sandler, everybody.

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And she's the double Oscar-winning star of

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Sense And Sensibility, Howard's End and Nanny McPhee.

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Please welcome the great Emma Thompson!

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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

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Sit down, sit down, sit down.

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Oh!

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Welcome, all. Very nice to see you all.

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Shiny couch.

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Now, by the way, we should say, straight off the bat,

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the great Dustin Hoffman was supposed to be here, cos he's

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-in the movie with you guys as well.

-Yeah.

-He is.

-But he no well.

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-No. AUDIENCE:

-Aw!

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Oh, he have-a the food poisoning.

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Apparently it's both ends. It's quite bad.

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Maybe it's a good thing he's not here.

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I think it's a good thing he's not here, yes.

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Adam Sandler, you've never been here before.

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No, I'm very... I'm very happy to be here.

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We're delighted you're here, we're very happy to see you.

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CHEERING

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Adam Sandler fans there but, Cara Delevingne, you're a bit of a fan.

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-I'm a really big fan.

-Thank you.

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I mean, I'm a very big fan of everyone on this couch.

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Huge, huge fan. But all of your movies, I swear, like...

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-I know Little Nicky was probably one of my favourite movies.

-Really?

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-I've watched it so many times.

-That's excellent.

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I actually dressed up as one of the guys for Halloween.

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-You know the one with the boobs on his head?

-Really? Aw!

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Anyway. I'll find that picture later.

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-Now, the two of you have just been in Cannes...

-Yeah.

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..with your new movie, which you all star in with Dustin.

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-And it went well, I think, it's fair to say.

-Yes.

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-A four-minute standing ovation.

-Yes.

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-Wow.

-That's a thing.

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-They're not afraid to boo in Cannes, are they?

-No.

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-If they don't like something, they tell you.

-Absolutely.

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We've got a picture of you all at Cannes. There you are, celebrating.

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And this... I was saying to you backstage,

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is this your new look now, Adam Sandler? You're so scrubbed up.

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I hate it. I hate it.

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I'm really not comfortable like this but this is something that

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for years my mother has been yelling at me about.

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For about 25 years of television shows I've looked not that great.

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My wife is sick of it all and so some nice lady come over to

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my office with a bunch of suits and I had to buy 'em.

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-LAUGHTER

-You had to buy them?

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-Look, your shirt's trying to escape.

-I know. It knows.

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"Get me off this man's body. He doesn't want me to be wearing it."

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Can you tie a tie?

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I can, I learned that for my Bar Mitzvah when I was 13,

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and I've done it for that, and gone to court a few times for tickets.

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That was it. But I can... Dustin Hoffman, actually,

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last night I had this on, he said, "Come here, come here.

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"You need a gangster. Let me give it gangster-style."

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And I said, "No, no, I think it's good." He said,

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"No, no, undo your tie."

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And I undid my tie and he put a gangster...I don't know,

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Windsor, he made it different.

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But it was so short.

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-LAUGHTER

-It came to here.

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And he was so happy with how he did it I had to leave it short

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the whole night.

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LAUGHTER

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Now, Claire Foy, you seem ecstatic to be on red carpets.

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-I mean...

-Oh, I love them.

-No, honestly, look.

-Love them.

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-Can't get enough of them.

-High as a kite.

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-CARA:

-She's actually got one in her house.

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In fairness, this is Claire just after winning a Golden Globe

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for Best Actress. So no wonder she looks so ecstatic.

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There she is.

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LAUGHTER

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You're like, "What's this?"

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I don't really know when they begin and end, that's the point.

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There needs to be some sort of regulating them...

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Plaster a huge, great grin on your face and keep it on the whole night.

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Absolutely.

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Especially in awards ceremonies, you know, the camera goes across

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everybody and people are just picking their teeth...

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looking up in the air and just bored.

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But imagine how happy Claire Foy

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will be because she's on the cover of this month's Vogue.

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Let's see her big smiling face here.

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LAUGHTER

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Do they tell you not to...

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Do they just say, "Whatever you do, do not look happy"?

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-Is that American Vogue or British Vogue?

-British Vogue.

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Yeah, because British Vogue you always have to look very stern

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but in American Vogue they like you to smile a little bit.

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-Really?

-They like you to look slightly, you know...

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-Mad?

-Yeah. That one.

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Is that what I was giving off?

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You have to smile but you can't actually smile.

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-That sort of thing. "Smeyes" they call it.

-With the eyes.

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I was wondering, does somebody coach you? Does somebody kind of go,

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"Do not look happy or I'll be over there."

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Well, by that point - you'll know - you've done six hours of sort of

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standing with your arm up and have cramp and by that point if someone

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asks you to genuinely look happy, it's just not going to happen.

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So I just think, be blank and hope for the best.

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It's quite like acting, really.

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In fairness, on red carpets, Cara Delevingne, you...

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-I love it that you say my whole name all the time.

-Cara Delevingne.

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-Cara Delevingne. EMMA:

-I know what you mean.

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"Cara" feels like I've stopped too soon.

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It is a short name, yeah.

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Cara is something. Is it the in-flight magazine at Aer Lingus?

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LAUGHTER

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It is, isn't it?

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Cara in Gaelic means "friend" so that could be a thing.

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That's probably why I'm not saying Cara.

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-I like it, rolls off the tongue.

-Cara Delevingne.

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So, Cara Delevingne, even on a red carpet you can get distracted.

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-There's generally quite distracting things on the red carpet.

-Yes.

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Well, this is you with Rihanna.

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LAUGHTER

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Who wouldn't?

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-I'm sorry.

-I like it. It's not even subtle. It's just like, "Hello!"

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I mean, I remember cos...

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I've known her for a very long time and I just remember, cos every time,

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especially in that show, she obviously has magnificent...lungs.

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-Yes.

-But I just went up to her and said, "You look amazing."

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And every time she was like, "You've gotta be on boob watch."

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Cos, you know, it's definitely something you have to be careful of.

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-Ohhh.

-Mm-hm.

-I was being a good friend, guys.

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Emma, I feel like you're very happy to have your picture taken.

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-No, not really.

-LAUGHTER

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-Really?

-Yeah, you're entirely wrong.

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There's a picture, someone posted it on Twitter of you.

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And there's a fence in it and I don't know who's being protected.

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There's a fence in it?

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LAUGHTER

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That's cool.

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That's the Reading Music Festival.

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I saw you there! No, I wish. That would have been amazing.

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That was me and my 54-year-old best mate and 90,000 teenagers.

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I can't tell you. And I thought, "This is nice, this is nice."

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Two things happened.

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First of all, I got into the mosh pit when the Arctic Monkeys

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were playing and I thought,

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"Oh, I'm going to die. I'm going to die."

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I was all crushed in, being moved up and down by people, thinking,

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"Oh, now's when I die.

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"I always wondered and I thought it would probably be young.

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"But I didn't picture this."

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And then we all walked back, you know, with the 90,000 teenagers

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who are all high, and I thought, "This is really quite nice."

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And then someone shat on someone's tent and then someone blew up

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another tent. And then the toilets overflowed and I had to use those

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-little piss things.

-The She-Ra.

-Shewee!

-Oh, Shewee!

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-She-Ra!

-She-Ra!

-She-Ra!

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Yeah, the little She-things.

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And it's absolutely hilarious because you pee down it and it's

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supposed to go down the chute and instead what it does is take

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all of the wee and push it into your body and down your leg.

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LAUGHTER

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It's a very efficient thing if you want to cover yourself in wee,

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for whatever medical reason - you might have psoriasis or something,

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then it would work.

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-It would be good.

-You should have been a doctor.

-I know!

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You are wasted as an actress. Wasted!

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It was hell. It was hell.

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I love what people would have thought when they're high at

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Reading Festival running into you and being like,

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"Nanny McPhee! No way is that real!"

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Covered in wee!

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Nanny McPhee covered in wee.

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LAUGHTER

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-She-Ra.

-It's just tragic.

-Now, ladies and gentlemen,

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the main event tonight, The Meyerowitz Stories,

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it's streaming now on Netflix and it is - well, you know -

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it's so good.

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-It's terrific.

-Thanks.

-Thank you.

-Proud of it.

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-We are, aren't we?

-Yes.

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It's everything you want, it's quirky, it's funny,

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it's serious, it's just terrific.

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So, it's about a dysfunctional family.

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It's sort of children trying to cope with a father who wasn't

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a father, played by Dustin Hoffman.

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-So who do you play?

-I play his son. Dustin's character runs the family,

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he's a very smart, strong guy and he's an artist and I play his son

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who didn't become an artist. I'm a piano player but just kind of...

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He doesn't love being in the limelight, he's very nervous

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around that stuff and I feel like a failure.

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I think what it is is Dustin's my dad and Ben Stiller's dad

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and Elizabeth Marvel's dad but he divorced my mom in the movie

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and married another woman and Ben grew up with Dustin and I didn't,

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so we have a different relationship. And then this young lady,

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-you become, I think, Dustin's fourth wife, right?

-Mm-hm.

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And it's fair to say, the fourth wife, she quite likes a glass

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-of wine with dinner.

-Yeah.

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She's a not-really-functioning-at-all alcoholic.

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There's a passing resemblance to, as I noticed, Professor Trelawney.

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I didn't mean that to happen.

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It is like you just came from one set to the other.

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LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE

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-I seriously have just realised that.

-You never noticed that before?

-No.

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Isn't that extraordinary? Anyway, Professor Trelawney obviously is...

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-Now married to Dustin Hoffman.

-..not well.

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But my character is...

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She's somebody who...

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wanted to marry someone who would be something and she thought

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this ageing sculptor would somehow be...

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She would be his muse. You know.

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And that hasn't happened and she doesn't have a relationship

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with the kids and she's a bit messed up.

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-She is an alcoholic so we did enjoy that, didn't we?

-You were great.

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We had a laugh. I had a laugh playing an alcoholic.

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I mean, not much acting required, obviously.

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LAUGHTER

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Cheers!

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APPLAUSE

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Adam, what's so sweet about your character - and I think this

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happens a lot in families, where you're kind of the kid who's

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doing most of the care giving but you are the least appreciated.

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-Right, right, absolutely.

-Exactly.

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Sorry, not...it reminds you of your own father but, no, not like

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that but your father... He gave you quite a hard time.

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Well, my father was... The difference in the family...

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My father in real life wasn't selfish.

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He was all about his family. But he was a strong guy and he was...

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We definitely...

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We were a little scared of him, we didn't want to make him upset,

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but we loved him more than anything on the planet.

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But, yeah, there was terror.

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LAUGHTER

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But I think the weirdest thing he did was the dog.

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Oh, yeah! Yeah, he named the dog Adam.

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LAUGHTER

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He'd always say, "Adam, Adam, come in here."

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And I'd come in and he'd go, "Not you, the dog."

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LAUGHTER

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GRAHAM LAUGHS

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ALL TALK AT ONCE

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Listen, let's have a look at a clip.

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This is the family, basically discussing the inheritance,

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the legacy, if you will.

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Thinking about selling the house? Why?

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It's very expensive to keep this place up and we're spending

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more time at the country house now.

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-But the country's yours.

-I had it before we got married but it's ours.

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Everything is ours now.

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-You're selling all the art? Dad, why?

-We don't have room for it.

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Do you want to sell?

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Oh, come on, Cabrera just grounded into a double play.

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-Matt set this up?

-I told him it was a family discussion.

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I think it is. I don't think you should sell at all. I'm telling you.

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Didn't expect you to get so upset about it.

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I am. I am upset about it.

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-Why do you care?

-I don't know.

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-We've lived here for years.

-You haven't.

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This is where Matthew grew up. You lived in Queens with your mother.

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It's a Meyerowitz tradition, this house!

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Oh, I guess I wouldn't know about that.

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I didn't mean it like that.

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She gets sensitive about these things, she feels like an outsider,

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she doesn't have kids of her own.

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I tell her, "Technically, you're their step-mother."

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APPLAUSE

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Presumably one of the joys for you, I mean, it's weird cos he's

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not here, but working with Dustin Hoffman, was that the reason you

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said yes or was it written for you, Adam?

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What happened was...something like me and Ben Stiller know each other

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for a long time and I went to his...

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He got a Walk of Fame star in Hollywood and there was a party

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and Mickey Rooney was there, that was cool.

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And Mickey Rooney and Stiller were tight.

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Anyway, we were hanging out, me and Stiller and I said,

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"I don't see you enough, we have to do a movie some day."

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And I said, "You know we'd make good brothers."

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And he's like, "Yeah, we could definitely..."

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I said that to Tom Cruise, too, but that didn't happen.

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-LAUGHTER

-Not yet.

-Not yet.

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Actually, you really could play brothers, that's a very good idea.

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I could be Cruise's goofy brother.

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-No, look at them.

-Cruise is like that size.

-Yeah.

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Younger brother. Small brother.

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But, anyways, Noah and Stiller are very...

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They did two movies together and we all went to lunch and Noah

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came up with this idea and then he wrote it.

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But then Emma and Dustin, that came along after. I couldn't believe...

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That was very exciting. How did it all happen for you, anyway?

0:17:240:17:28

I don't know.

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LAUGHTER

0:17:290:17:31

I think my agent rang me up and said, "Do you want to do this job?"

0:17:310:17:34

And I said yes.

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It was that fascinating.

0:17:360:17:39

-Great story.

-Yeah.

0:17:390:17:41

I've worked on that one for a while.

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But I read in an interview, the first time you worked with Dustin,

0:17:440:17:47

-that when you met him it was kind of a thing.

-Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Cos he's one of my great idols. And I met him...

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We did something called Stranger Than Fiction with Will Ferrell.

0:17:550:17:59

-It was a great one.

-Nice piece of writing.

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And we had lunch, there was a lunch and it's, like, 15 years ago,

0:18:030:18:08

I think. And I was sitting at the back - I know what it was!

0:18:080:18:13

It was my birthday, actually. It was my birthday lunch.

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And he came...came down the sort of aisle of this restaurant,

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you know, that walk, the sort of...

0:18:210:18:24

Oh, yeah!

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-LAUGHTER

-Yeah, it's good.

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APPLAUSE

0:18:280:18:30

Obviously, you know, without the fringes.

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Oh, these trousers are too tight. They're actually parting my vagina.

0:18:330:18:38

LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE

0:18:380:18:41

I borrowed them.

0:18:410:18:43

I don't think anyone will want them back.

0:18:430:18:46

Oh, you'd be surprised.

0:18:460:18:49

Anyway, I don't know how guys do it. Ow!

0:18:490:18:52

Anyway. Hm.

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And I just had this kind of... this incredible reaction to him

0:18:530:18:58

because it was sort of... It was just like being overwhelmed

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with this sense of all of those things that he'd played that

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had really touched me and moved me,

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you know, from Midnight Cowboy on, just...

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-Especially that one, actually.

-Yeah.

-That heart-breaking, broken man.

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Yeah, he's a great man.

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But, Emma, do you get that where people have the same reaction

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to you, cos you've really moved them in things or...?

0:19:240:19:29

-Um...

-"No."

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You know, the Love Actually thing,

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people do sometimes do that kind of...

0:19:350:19:38

They just do that.

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How many people, I must imagine, go up to you and go, "That scene..."

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Cos, Claire Foy, you get quite an emotional reaction from fans,

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-don't you?

-Not so much fans, but one lady I met in a chip shop.

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LAUGHTER

0:19:530:19:54

-Let's go with that story, then.

-Just that one lady.

0:19:540:19:57

I really enjoyed meeting you, can I just say to her, wherever she -

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she's not in the audience - if this makes it onto the show.

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If you smell vinegar, she's nearly here.

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I was at the chip shop and a woman came in and we started chatting

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cos they were battering our cod...

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LAUGHTER

0:20:130:20:15

..and we started having a chat and she'd been on a Tinder date

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and she was a bit drunk and she was talking about how it hadn't

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gone very well but hopefully they were going to be friends.

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And then my mum FaceTimed me and for some reason, me picking up

0:20:230:20:27

my iPhone and talking to my mother reminded her of the Queen.

0:20:270:20:32

And she went, "Oh, my God!"

0:20:320:20:34

I went, "Oh, this is..."

0:20:340:20:37

I ended the call with my mum and she went, "I love you so much,

0:20:370:20:40

"I love you so much!" And I think it was a combination between the chat

0:20:400:20:44

we'd had previously, the Tinder date, the alcohol, the chip shop

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element that made the tears come. But it was quite a... We cuddled.

0:20:470:20:51

LAUGHTER

0:20:510:20:53

And it was a special moment. For me, as well.

0:20:530:20:56

I mean, it was a depressing moment for her but I loved her.

0:20:560:20:59

-You made her Tinder so much better.

-Yeah, you cheered up a Tinder date.

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-I hope so.

-People tell the story and it ends with, "And then..."

0:21:020:21:06

-I really hope she watches this.

-It's also fantastically cheery to find

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a member of the royal family in a chip shop.

0:21:090:21:11

LAUGHTER

0:21:110:21:13

Under any circumstances that is a cheery thing.

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-Listen, very quickly, season two of The Crown.

-Yes.

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Everyone's very exited. CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:21:220:21:25

That comes out in December.

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We all love The Crown.

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This is already your last stint.

0:21:310:21:35

-That's it, yes.

-What?

-It's over.

-Why would you do that to us?!

0:21:350:21:39

Well, because that's it, I'm done.

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But can you not do another season?

0:21:410:21:43

-No.

-Why not?

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-No. Don't suggest that, Graham.

-Were you always only supposed to do...?

0:21:450:21:49

-Yeah, yeah.

-I thought you were supposed to do a...I don't know,

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a bigger chunk.

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No, no, we always knew it was only going to be two series.

0:21:530:21:57

So from the beginning, it's always been what I've known and then

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the part is reincarnated and someone else goes on.

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-That's the nature of the part.

-The Queen's like Bond.

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Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

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-Bond, yeah.

-Do you know who's stepping into the crown now?

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Yes, I do.

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HE GASPS Do you really?!

0:22:160:22:17

I just assumed you'd say no.

0:22:170:22:18

-No, I do. I'm not going to tell you.

-Can we tickle you till you tell us?

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-No, don't, cos I will tell you.

-LAUGHTER

0:22:220:22:25

-Please!

-Is it someone we know? Is it someone we know?

0:22:250:22:28

-Yeah, yes.

-Is it?

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-Yes. I mean...

-Somebody famous?

0:22:330:22:36

Stop it!

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It's someone who acts for a living.

0:22:380:22:40

A professional actor's going to play the role. OK.

0:22:400:22:44

LAUGHTER

0:22:440:22:45

I like what they've done with this.

0:22:450:22:47

-You're not allowed to tell us, right?

-Absolutely not.

0:22:470:22:51

-Oh, OK. All right, move on.

-Do you not know?

0:22:510:22:53

This isn't going to get us anywhere, Graham.

0:22:530:22:56

-Oh, do you know?!

-Uh, no.

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-I don't know.

-No? But your husband Greg's in it.

0:22:590:23:02

-So does he not...?

-Oh, yeah.

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My husband, yes, he's in it, yes.

0:23:040:23:07

-GERMAN ACCENT:

-Yes, he is in it. He is Mountbatten.

0:23:070:23:09

LAUGHTER

0:23:090:23:11

-GERMAN ACCENT:

-But I'm not villing to say any more.

0:23:110:23:14

-Why am I doing a German accent?

-I don't know. It's good, it's good.

0:23:140:23:18

-What's odd, of course, is you have also played the Queen.

-Yes, I have.

0:23:180:23:22

Not as well as Claire, I have to tell you.

0:23:220:23:24

You're looking good, though.

0:23:240:23:25

Look, look, look at my face, I looked like a slapped arse.

0:23:250:23:28

LAUGHTER

0:23:280:23:31

A very good one.

0:23:310:23:33

-And Claire is so good in it.

-Fantastic.

0:23:330:23:37

But you've said there are some kind of little tricks you use,

0:23:370:23:41

like for the voice you have a little trick for the voice.

0:23:410:23:45

Well, I'm Mancunian, originally,

0:23:450:23:49

and the only thing I've kept is how I pronounce one.

0:23:490:23:52

-Which is I say...

-MANCUNIAN ACCENT:

-"One."

0:23:520:23:54

Which is completely wrong.

0:23:540:23:56

And it took me about five months of just drilling of going...

0:23:560:23:59

-QUEEN'S ACCENT:

-"One!"

0:23:590:24:00

-As opposed to...

-MANCUNIAN ACCENT:

-"One."

0:24:000:24:02

And I still slip every once in a while.

0:24:020:24:04

Matt had his own whole situation with "was" and "because"

0:24:040:24:06

-and all this sort of stuff. But...

-QUEEN'S ACCENT:

-"One."

0:24:060:24:09

I'm losing it already. I can already feel her going.

0:24:090:24:12

But, yeah, I really had to just...

0:24:120:24:15

Every time before a take I'd be like...

0:24:150:24:17

-QUEEN'S ACCENT:

-"One, one, one, one."

0:24:170:24:20

-It's so weird.

-It's an extraordinary voice, isn't it?

0:24:200:24:22

-It's so bizarre.

-It's the weirdest bloomin' voice.

0:24:220:24:25

-It's so hard to do.

-And it's still weird.

0:24:250:24:27

When she does the afternoon speeches at Christmas it's like going back

0:24:270:24:31

in time, you just go, how does anyone still speak like that?

0:24:310:24:35

It's extraordinary.

0:24:350:24:36

Maybe she does the same thing.

0:24:360:24:38

-QUEEN'S ACCENT:

-"One, one, one, one."

0:24:380:24:40

LAUGHTER

0:24:400:24:42

APPLAUSE

0:24:420:24:47

Now, listen, Claire, you're actually here tonight to tell us about

0:24:470:24:50

your new film. It's called Breathe. It opens tonight.

0:24:500:24:53

And it's a mind-boggling story and it's sort of extraordinary

0:24:530:24:56

that we don't - I certainly did not know this story.

0:24:560:25:00

Robin Cavendish and his wife, and both of them were proper,

0:25:000:25:05

-sort of, pioneers.

-Yeah. They were sort of forced into that position.

0:25:050:25:10

Robin contracted polio in Africa and their life was seemingly

0:25:100:25:16

going incredibly well, they were young, they were in love, the going

0:25:160:25:20

was good, and then suddenly he was told he had three months to live.

0:25:200:25:24

She was eight months pregnant at the time and during that time

0:25:240:25:27

gave birth to the producer of the film, Jonathan Cavendish.

0:25:270:25:31

He's the producer of the film.

0:25:310:25:32

Oh, it makes me feel a bit emotional talking about it.

0:25:320:25:36

And it's the story of about how he was given three months to live

0:25:360:25:40

and he just kept on living and it gets to a point where, you know,

0:25:400:25:45

he goes through a period of depression and there's a sort of

0:25:450:25:49

facedown moment where they have to decide whether he's going to

0:25:490:25:52

keep going down this route of depression and misery,

0:25:520:25:55

or whether he's just going to say,

0:25:550:25:57

"This is it and we're going to make the best of it."

0:25:570:26:00

And they...changed the lives of disabled people around the world.

0:26:000:26:05

They made the first - they invented and made the first wheelchair

0:26:050:26:09

for responauts, people who rely on breathing apparatus to live.

0:26:090:26:13

Which meant that people who had been confined to iron lungs and

0:26:130:26:17

hospital for the rest of their days could live and breathe and

0:26:170:26:20

get out there and live their lives.

0:26:200:26:22

It's amazing that a patient invented it. Not a doctor.

0:26:220:26:26

Well, yeah, because at the time, you know,

0:26:260:26:28

it's an interesting thing with disability or anything like that.

0:26:280:26:31

People want to do the best for people, it's not that people

0:26:310:26:34

are trying to keep people in their place.

0:26:340:26:36

-Yeah.

-You want to help people and you want people to live.

0:26:360:26:40

But they were just terrified and modern medicine is an

0:26:400:26:43

incredible thing but it takes risk and Robin Cavendish was

0:26:430:26:47

willing to risk his life and they changed people's lives.

0:26:470:26:50

I can't even tell you. Extraordinary people.

0:26:500:26:53

And he's brilliantly played by Andrew Garfield.

0:26:530:26:56

You play Diana, the wife.

0:26:560:26:58

It's a terrific movie and you are terrific in it.

0:26:580:27:01

Here's a taste of what to expect from Breathe.

0:27:010:27:04

I'm not feeling too good.

0:27:040:27:06

I can't move. What's going on?

0:27:060:27:08

Robin?

0:27:080:27:09

Get him on a respirator!

0:27:090:27:11

People paralysed by polio don't last long.

0:27:110:27:14

Can't move anything from the neck down.

0:27:140:27:15

Can't even breathe for yourself.

0:27:150:27:17

How do you live like this?

0:27:200:27:22

You get used to it.

0:27:220:27:24

I love you. And I want Jonathan to know you.

0:27:240:27:27

-You can't love this.

-Yes, I can.

0:27:270:27:30

-There must be something I can do.

-Get me out of here.

0:27:300:27:33

Robin's going to leave the hospital.

0:27:340:27:36

No-one with your husband's disability

0:27:360:27:38

exists outside a hospital.

0:27:380:27:40

Has anyone ever tried? Robin?!

0:27:400:27:42

Robin?!

0:27:420:27:44

-You all right, darling?

-Much better.

0:27:440:27:46

Aw, don't.

0:27:500:27:52

DROWNED OUT BY APPLAUSE

0:27:520:27:56

Now, ladies and gentlemen, Cara Delevingne brings us a new

0:27:560:27:59

string to her already crowded bow.

0:27:590:28:01

It's a novel. I've got it here. It's called Mirror, Mirror.

0:28:010:28:06

It's out now. What can people expect?

0:28:060:28:10

AUDIENCE WHOOP

0:28:100:28:11

APPLAUSE

0:28:110:28:13

It's a book. It has words. That's good for a book.

0:28:130:28:16

-Yeah.

-So, basically, it's a fictional novel.

0:28:160:28:19

It's classed as a young adult novel but I feel like adults can read it.

0:28:190:28:23

I've had a lot of older friends read it and it really brings you

0:28:230:28:26

back to being a teenager cos it's very visceral, it describes

0:28:260:28:29

very much the smells and the emotions and the hormones and

0:28:290:28:33

all that fun stuff, as being a teenager is.

0:28:330:28:35

But it's about four friends growing up in London

0:28:350:28:38

and...it's...it's, again, for everybody, you know, we've all

0:28:380:28:43

been there, it can be a turbulent rollercoaster at times,

0:28:430:28:45

there's lots of ups and downs.

0:28:450:28:47

It's also got a few twists in there which are really, really good.

0:28:470:28:51

And it's got a kind of crime/mystery solving element to it as well.

0:28:510:28:55

I've heard you talk about it, you have a real sense of

0:28:550:28:58

ownership of this book and this story and these characters,

0:28:580:29:01

but at the same time you're very open to the fact you wrote it

0:29:010:29:04

with Rowan Coleman. So did that work?

0:29:040:29:07

Technically, how does that work?

0:29:070:29:09

So, that process, I mean, growing up, you know, at school I had

0:29:090:29:13

no confidence in myself at writing,

0:29:130:29:16

because my grades weren't always good in English and stuff like that.

0:29:160:29:19

I loved writing so much but because I never got an A,

0:29:190:29:23

I just thought I would never be able to do it.

0:29:230:29:25

But I love writing, it was always such a passion for me,

0:29:250:29:27

especially dealing with things, mental health issues and

0:29:270:29:30

stuff like depression, it's such a great way to express yourself.

0:29:300:29:33

The process of going about it, I had these ideas, I met a few writers,

0:29:330:29:38

Rowan was the person I met and you know when you just click with

0:29:380:29:41

someone and you have that, when you're creating something, and you

0:29:410:29:44

just have that spark and these ideas of things just started

0:29:440:29:47

-flowing out of us.

-Would you sit in a room together?

-Yeah, yeah, yeah.

0:29:470:29:52

I met a few different writers, cos I wanted to find the right person,

0:29:520:29:56

I had ideas already.

0:29:560:29:57

I wrote a diary when I was younger and I had all these kind of pictures

0:29:570:30:00

and notes and things that I wanted to bring into it and she was

0:30:000:30:03

-just the one.

-And what interested me, cos I guess your fan base,

0:30:030:30:07

you know, there's a lot, you know, you've got the amazing Instagram

0:30:070:30:09

followers and Twitter and things,

0:30:090:30:12

is it a big leap to say those people can commit to a whole novel,

0:30:120:30:17

you know, a chunk of book?

0:30:170:30:19

Well, yesterday I did a book signing and I had mostly young girls

0:30:190:30:24

and, weirdly, older men...

0:30:240:30:26

LAUGHTER

0:30:260:30:28

That is weird, isn't it?

0:30:280:30:30

One of the guys came up and he was wearing a T-shirt saying,

0:30:300:30:33

"May I suggest this sausage?"

0:30:330:30:34

And I was looking at it and I was going,

0:30:340:30:37

"You may but I may not say yes."

0:30:370:30:39

-LAUGHTER

-That was interesting.

0:30:390:30:42

He bought two books so I was like, "Thanks!"

0:30:420:30:45

But, you know, so many of these girls came up to me and were just,

0:30:450:30:49

you know that thing where people shake, that always freaks me out

0:30:490:30:52

cos I'm like, "It's OK, I'm going to hug the shake out of you."

0:30:520:30:55

But they'd come up to me and just go, "You really helped me

0:30:550:30:59

"come out to my family and realise it was OK to be gay," or "It's OK

0:30:590:31:06

"to be depressed and have anxiety and go through that and be honest

0:31:060:31:09

"about it." And that for me is the reason why I do this.

0:31:090:31:12

If I can in any way help a teenager go through what I was going through

0:31:120:31:15

and come out of it, that's why I'm here, you know.

0:31:150:31:18

Well, congratulations, it's a big deal.

0:31:180:31:20

CHEERING

0:31:200:31:22

Earlier on, we were talking about dealing with parents and

0:31:280:31:30

having to take care of parents,

0:31:300:31:32

but even at your age, Cara Delevingne, your mother...

0:31:320:31:35

Has your mother been banned from fashion shows now?

0:31:350:31:39

She should be!

0:31:390:31:41

She sounds like a liability.

0:31:410:31:42

Ah, yeah... No, Mum, you're not. Don't worry.

0:31:420:31:45

SHE MOUTHS

0:31:450:31:47

She, uh...

0:31:470:31:48

I mean, you know parents can be...you know, embarrassing at

0:31:480:31:51

these things, and my parents are very proud and amazing and

0:31:510:31:54

adorable - there she is.

0:31:540:31:55

And I think she came to a show and she was backstage with me

0:31:550:31:58

and they were ushering her to her seat and she walked down,

0:31:580:32:01

outside, backstage, the middle of the catwalk!

0:32:010:32:03

Just before it was about to start. And people were trying to get her.

0:32:030:32:06

She walks down the front row and I see her on the camera from

0:32:060:32:09

backstage spotting people in the audience in the front row and

0:32:090:32:12

walking up to them.

0:32:120:32:13

I think she tried to walk up to Anna Wintour and kiss her and say

0:32:130:32:16

hello and wouldn't sit down.

0:32:160:32:18

People were trying to start the show and they had to

0:32:180:32:20

literally physically grab her and put her in some chair somewhere.

0:32:200:32:24

Very funny.

0:32:240:32:26

But it must be lovely, you know, for all your parents, to see your

0:32:260:32:29

success and to enjoy it.

0:32:290:32:31

Cos was it your mum was on the set of The Waterboy?

0:32:310:32:37

Sure, sure. Yes, yes. My mother, she has humiliated me a lot, yes.

0:32:370:32:43

She doesn't know when she's watching the monitor and she has the

0:32:430:32:48

headphones on that she can be heard and she was, you know,

0:32:480:32:52

watching the monitor while I was doing my Waterboy acting and,

0:32:520:32:56

I don't know, she's just nuts, my mother.

0:32:560:32:59

She's a good, lovely lady. I just remembered a story.

0:32:590:33:03

It's funny about my mother.

0:33:030:33:06

Like 20 years ago or whatever it was, I was at the Golden Globes.

0:33:060:33:10

I got nominated for a Golden Globe, so I took my parents.

0:33:100:33:15

Just like you.

0:33:150:33:17

I took my parents and they kind of invited themselves,

0:33:170:33:21

but anyway, I remember my mother just gets excited, like your mom,

0:33:210:33:27

to talk to people or see people or screams out, "Who's that?"

0:33:270:33:30

So somebody gave my mother the thing, like if you're going to

0:33:300:33:34

point at somebody, do it like...

0:33:340:33:37

Point in a different direction and we'll follow the thumb to who

0:33:370:33:41

you're pointing to.

0:33:410:33:43

She's like, "What? What?"

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You point that way but the thumb is who you're talking about and

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you get away with a little better. Like that.

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And I swear to God, Elton John was about eight feet away and I'm

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seeing my mother getting all crazy and then she starts going,

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"Is that...?"

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LAUGHTER

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APPLAUSE

0:34:050:34:07

Thank you.

0:34:110:34:13

Talking of meeting famous faces, there's a weird thing going on

0:34:130:34:16

at the moment - well, so many weird things because of Donald Trump.

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But we're suddenly hearing about all these famous people that

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he asked out. And you are one of them.

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Yeah.

0:34:300:34:32

I know.

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You could be the First Lady!

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I could've changed the course of history.

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LAUGHTER

0:34:400:34:42

We were doing Primary Colors, which was a film about the Clintons

0:34:420:34:47

and about that.

0:34:470:34:49

It was at Universal, it was '97, so it was a long time ago.

0:34:490:34:53

So, actually, one only associated Senor Trump with tasteless

0:34:530:34:59

architecture at that point.

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And, well, still a boundless sense of narcissistic kind of madness.

0:35:000:35:07

But I was in my little trailer, which was a normal trailer,

0:35:070:35:10

and it had a phone, like a proper phone, you know...

0:35:100:35:13

-A landline.

-..landline.

0:35:130:35:16

And no-one had ever rung on me on it nor had I ever used it.

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In fact, I assumed it was not a working machine.

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And it rang one day and I picked it up and it was Donald Trump.

0:35:230:35:27

-Donald Trump.

-What?

0:35:270:35:29

Donald Trump was on the other end of the phone going,

0:35:290:35:33

"Hi, it's Donald Trump here." And I thought someone was having a laugh.

0:35:330:35:37

I said, "Oh, fuck off."

0:35:370:35:39

LAUGHTER

0:35:390:35:41

And he said, "No, I'm ringing to ask you if you would like to, you know,

0:35:410:35:44

"come and stay in one of my lovely apartments

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"and maybe we could have dinner?"

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And I just didn't know what to say.

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I was just absolutely astounded because how did he get my number?

0:35:510:35:56

I mean, a number that I didn't have!

0:35:560:35:58

LAUGHTER

0:35:580:36:00

-In the trailer!

-Yeah.

0:36:000:36:01

So I just said I'd get back to him.

0:36:010:36:05

And in so many ways I wish I had.

0:36:050:36:08

Because if I had gone out with him for dinner,

0:36:080:36:11

I could have done that.

0:36:110:36:13

LAUGHTER

0:36:130:36:16

And then we would all have known...

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the truth. Then maybe he wouldn't have been President!

0:36:180:36:23

Well, it's time to meet our musical guest tonight.

0:36:280:36:31

This music legend shot to fame as the enigmatic frontman of

0:36:310:36:34

The Smiths, and since then he's found huge success as a solo artist.

0:36:340:36:39

Performing his new single Spent The Day In Bed,

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please welcome, for the first time, Morrissey!

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CHEERING

0:36:440:36:47

# Spent the day in bed

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# Very happy I did

0:37:100:37:13

# Yes, I spent the day in bed

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# As the workers stay enslaved

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# I spent the day in bed

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# I'm not my type, but

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# I love my bed

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# And I recommend that you

0:37:270:37:30

# Stop watching the news

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# Because the news contrives to frighten you

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# To make you feel small and alone

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# To make you feel that your mind isn't your own

0:37:460:37:50

# So I spent the day in bed

0:37:510:37:54

# It's a consolation

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# When all my dreams

0:37:560:38:00

# Are perfectly legal

0:38:000:38:02

# In sheets for which I paid

0:38:020:38:05

# I am now laid

0:38:050:38:07

# And I recommend

0:38:070:38:11

# To all of my friends that they

0:38:110:38:13

# Stop watching the news

0:38:130:38:17

# Because the news contrives to frighten you

0:38:180:38:23

# To make you feel small and alone

0:38:240:38:28

# To make you feel that your mind isn't your own

0:38:290:38:33

# Oh, time, do as I wish

0:38:350:38:38

# Time, do as I wish

0:38:380:38:40

# Oh, time, do as I wish

0:38:400:38:43

# Time, do as I wish

0:38:430:38:46

# Oh, time, do as I wish

0:38:460:38:49

# Time, do as I wish

0:38:490:38:51

# Oh, time, do as I wish

0:38:510:38:54

# Do as I wish

0:38:540:38:56

# I spent the day in bed

0:38:560:38:59

# You can please yourself

0:38:590:39:01

# But I spent the day in bed

0:39:010:39:05

# Pillows like pillars

0:39:050:39:08

# Life ends in death

0:39:080:39:11

# So there's nothing wrong with

0:39:110:39:13

# Being good to yourself

0:39:130:39:16

# Be good to yourself for once

0:39:160:39:19

# And no bus, no boss, no rain, no train

0:39:190:39:24

# No bus, no boss, no rain, no train

0:39:240:39:30

# No bus, no boss, no rain, no train

0:39:300:39:35

# No emasculation, no castration

0:39:350:39:40

# No highway, freeway, motorway

0:39:400:39:46

# No bus, no boss, no rain, no train

0:39:460:39:51

# No bus, no boss, no rain, no train

0:39:510:39:56

# No bus, no boss, no rain, no train. #

0:39:560:40:02

CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:40:050:40:08

Thank you!

0:40:080:40:09

Fantastic! A big thank you to Morrissey!

0:40:170:40:20

Thank you very much. Have a seat, guys.

0:40:200:40:23

Sounded so good.

0:40:240:40:26

Sounded excellent.

0:40:260:40:29

The voice untouched by time.

0:40:290:40:31

Untouched by time. Right, that's nearly it.

0:40:310:40:34

Before we go, just time for a visit to the Big Red Chair.

0:40:340:40:36

-Who's there? Hello.

-Hello.

0:40:360:40:39

-What's your name?

-Simony.

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-Lovely. And where are you from?

-I'm from Brazil.

0:40:420:40:45

-No? Born and bred in Brazil?

-Yes.

0:40:450:40:48

-Oh, OK.

-I've been here for 11 years but, yes.

0:40:480:40:51

-OK, and what do you do here?

-I'm a lawyer.

0:40:510:40:55

Are you a particular type of lawyer?

0:40:550:40:57

-Yes, I'm a particular type of lawyer.

-Is it ruthless?

0:40:570:40:59

No, I wish. I do financial services.

0:40:590:41:04

Always a conversation starter.

0:41:040:41:07

Yes, it really is.

0:41:070:41:09

HE YAWNS

0:41:090:41:11

OK, off you go with your story.

0:41:110:41:13

I moved here about 11 years ago, but as a foreigner you learn English

0:41:130:41:19

as a second language and you only learn the right way to say things.

0:41:190:41:22

You don't learn swear words or anything like that.

0:41:220:41:25

So whenever I would hear a word I didn't know I would try and

0:41:250:41:29

pick from the conversation what the meaning was.

0:41:290:41:31

And I used to work amongst a number of other blokes and our

0:41:310:41:36

manager sat next to us and I would always assume that when

0:41:360:41:39

you're at work you don't swear.

0:41:390:41:40

So they would always be saying to each other, "Oh, I can't be arsed.

0:41:400:41:43

"I can't be arsed, I can't be arsed."

0:41:430:41:45

And I took that as "I can't be ASKED."

0:41:450:41:47

Because you're ASKING me to do something and I can't be ASKED.

0:41:470:41:51

So you go to meet the in-laws, or at the time the prospective in-laws,

0:41:510:41:54

as you do, and you're trying to impress, as you do,

0:41:540:41:57

and then the mother, who's, you know, perfect British lady,

0:41:570:42:01

very respectful, very elegant, she comes and asks me if I wanted

0:42:010:42:04

to do something in particular.

0:42:040:42:06

I said, "Oh, no, thank you, I can't be arsed."

0:42:060:42:08

She went, "Oh!"

0:42:080:42:10

LAUGHTER

0:42:100:42:12

What a story!

0:42:120:42:14

"No, no, I'm not swearing. I just can't be arsed."

0:42:140:42:17

"Oh, again!"

0:42:170:42:19

You can walk, you can walk. Go on, you walk, walk, walk.

0:42:190:42:22

One more? OK, we'll have one more.

0:42:220:42:25

-OK, here we go. OK. Oh, hello.

-Hello.

0:42:250:42:28

-Hi. You're really tall.

-Thank you. No, this chair's just small.

0:42:280:42:31

I don't think it is. How tall are you?

0:42:310:42:33

-6'2"?

-Oh, not that tall.

-No.

-OK.

0:42:330:42:36

-What's your name?

-Albert.

0:42:360:42:37

-And where you from?

-I'm from Holywood in Northern Ireland.

0:42:370:42:41

Lovely.

0:42:410:42:42

-It's a nice place.

-What is in... Is there a folk village or something?

0:42:420:42:48

I think it was voted 2002 Best Town in Northern Ireland or something.

0:42:480:42:52

Very good.

0:42:520:42:54

See, there's more than one Hollywood, Adam.

0:42:540:42:56

LAUGHTER

0:42:560:42:58

-And do you live there now?

-No, I live here, yeah.

0:42:580:43:01

-What do you do?

-I work for a big technology firm.

0:43:010:43:04

A BIG one. A BIG technology one.

0:43:040:43:07

Yeah. Big!

0:43:070:43:10

-Almost as big as me.

-It's the technology that got small.

0:43:100:43:13

LAUGHTER

0:43:130:43:16

All right, off you go with your story.

0:43:160:43:18

So I used to live in China...

0:43:180:43:20

GRAHAM LAUGHS

0:43:200:43:22

While I was over there I did a bit of travelling, went to

0:43:220:43:24

Central China and went to a zoo. Pretty bad zoo.

0:43:240:43:28

I went to the infirmary enclosure, which is like the sick animals

0:43:280:43:31

are there, and there was this huge white tiger, beautiful big thing

0:43:310:43:35

in a really small cage.

0:43:350:43:37

This cage was close enough to put your hand in.

0:43:370:43:39

It was no health and safety at all.

0:43:390:43:41

And as the tiger walked towards me I was just admiring a

0:43:410:43:43

beautiful thing and it turned round and walked the other way,

0:43:430:43:46

it just lifted its tail and projectile urinated all over me,

0:43:460:43:50

in my mouth, in my eyes, in my ears.

0:43:500:43:55

-And it's a sick tiger.

-Exactly, yeah. 100%.

0:43:550:43:58

And of course all these Chinese people with phones came over

0:43:580:44:01

to me and were taking pictures, going, "You're so lucky, it's amazing when that happens."

0:44:010:44:05

I didn't feel that lucky.

0:44:050:44:08

-But I'm told it is.

-Flip or walk?

0:44:080:44:11

-Go for flip.

-Oh, you want to be flipped? OK, there he goes.

0:44:110:44:14

Well done.

0:44:140:44:16

Well done, everyone.

0:44:160:44:18

If you'd like to join us on the show and have a go at that Red Chair, you can!

0:44:180:44:21

Just contact us via the website at this very address.

0:44:210:44:24

That is it for tonight.

0:44:240:44:25

Please say a huge thank you to my guests - Cara Delevingne!

0:44:250:44:28

CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:44:280:44:30

Claire Foy!

0:44:300:44:31

CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:44:310:44:32

Adam Sandler!

0:44:320:44:33

CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:44:330:44:35

And Emma Thompson!

0:44:350:44:36

CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:44:360:44:38

Do join me next week with comedy star Josh Gad,

0:44:380:44:40

Hollywood actress Michelle Pfeiffer,

0:44:400:44:42

Knight of the theatre Kenneth Branagh,

0:44:420:44:44

and the one and only Dame Judi Dench.

0:44:440:44:47

I'll see you then. Goodnight, everybody, bye-bye!

0:44:470:44:49

CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

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