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TV - the magic box of delights.

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As kids, it showed us a million different worlds,

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all from our living rooms.

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-This takes me right back.

-That's so embarrassing!

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I am genuinely shocked!

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Each day I'm going to journey through the wonderful

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world of telly with one of our favourite celebrities...

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It's just so silly!

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-SHE LAUGHS

-I love it!

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Is it Mr Benn?

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Shut it!

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..as they select the iconic TV moments...

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Oh, hello!

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..that tell us the stories of their lives.

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Oh, my God!

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Cheers!

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-Some will make you laugh...

-WUUURGH!

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..some will surprise...

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-SQUEAKING

-Oh!

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..many will inspire...

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-Oooh!

-Look at this!

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Why wouldn't you want to watch this?

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..and others will move us.

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Seeing that there made a huge impact on me.

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BABY CRIES

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Got a handkerchief?

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So come watch with us as we rewind to the classic telly that shaped

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those wide-eyed youngsters into the much-loved stars they are today.

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Welcome to The TV That Made Me.

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My guest today is on our screens every day fronting the one show

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we love to watch,

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it's the gorgeous, the wonderful Alex Jones!

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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

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-Hello, Brian! Are you well?

-I'm very well. I hope you are too.

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-It's lovely to be here.

-Come and sit down.

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-Well! I love this sofa.

-Do you?

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-Yeah!

-Are you comfy?

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Having swapped her Welsh homeland for a spot on The One Show sofa,

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Alex is fast becoming one of the best known faces on the BBC.

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-Thanks for tuning in to The One Show with Alex Jones...

-And Chris Evans.

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Coming up from our top team tonight...

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In the last few years, there has been no stopping her.

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Shows like Tumble...

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..and a run on Strictly Come Dancing, where she reached

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the semifinals, have all helped turn her into a household name.

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And amongst the TV that made her,

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comedy in the best possible taste from one comedian who

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-dominated our screens in the '80s...

-You've found the secret of life!

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..to another whose Canned Carrot

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was a staple in many homes during the early '90s.

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Spread your legs and your arms.

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As well as close encounters with kids and animals on S4C.

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This is a celebration of television that you know and love

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and that you've grown-up with. Are you excited about that?

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Really excited.

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Because actually, when you think back, you can

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remember different eras by what you were watching at the time.

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I've always been a huge telly fan.

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Today, we're going to watch some classic TV shows,

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but before we do that we going to rewind the clock

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and have a look at a very young Alex Jones.

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Alex grew up in Ammanford, Carmarthenshire, with her mum,

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a bank clerk, dad, an engineer,

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and Jenny, her younger sister by three years.

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She was seen chatting away in her native tongue

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after attending the local Welsh speaking school.

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Giving up childhood dreams to be a ballet dancer,

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she headed off to university to study theatre, film and TV.

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After working briefly behind the cameras it wasn't long

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before she found herself on screen and starting her TV career

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presenting the Welsh language channel S4C.

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-So what about nostalgia? Are you one for nostalgia?

-Yeah, I am, yeah.

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Um, you know, when we were thinking about shows we used to watch,

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it brings back really happy memories,

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especially of watching television as a family.

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And I think back when we were young

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it was more of an appointment to view, then.

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People would sit down as their family - nine o'clock on a Friday,

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so-and-so is on, get the fish and chips in, and we'd all be there.

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And I don't think that happens as much any more

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because you can watch things on catch-up.

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I dunno, when I look back it reminds me of really happy,

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comforting, cosy times.

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And we want to make you comfy, we want to make you happy today.

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Did you have any TV snacks?

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TV snacks would be mostly, well, tea and biscuits.

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-Tea and biscuits. Don't go anywhere.

-Well, it's great service here!

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I'm going in the kitchen now.

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-I hope you like builder's tea.

-Oh, I love builder's tea.

-There you go.

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Drop of milk, that's all you need.

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We have a small selection here - do you want to take any?

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Well, I'm spoiled for choice here. I think I'll have a custard cream.

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-Oh, custard cream!

-Do you mind if I dunk?

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Oh, I'm going to have a dunk as well.

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-The good thing with a custard cream is they're robust.

-Very robust, yes.

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What you don't want is a biscuit and you dunk it

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and then it goes pathetic.

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-Yes.

-Custard cream, nice and chunky. It can withstand the tea.

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Yeah, see, you've learned something today, haven't you, ladies and gentlemen?

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LAUGHTER

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A custard cream is robust!

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Good for dunking. So not a digestive, then?

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I'm not opposed, I love a digestive.

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I like Rich Tea, and I'll tell you why.

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Because they're so thin you can eat loads of them.

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LAUGHTER

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It's time for your first choice now, Alex.

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Let's take a look at an early TV memory. Here it is.

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# Sunny day... #

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Sesame Street!

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This takes me right back

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to being probably four or five.

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Really?

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With over 4,000 episodes over the last 47 years, Sesame Street

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has become an institution on both sides of The Pond.

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It was originally created for nursery-aged children

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to prepare them for school.

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The educational content of the series was delivered by children

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and adults interacting with puppets provided by the then relatively

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unknown Jim Henson.

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# Can you tell me how to get, how to get to Sesame Street? #

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It reminds me of school holidays, especially summer holidays.

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We'd get up really early, Jen and I - Jen is my sister -

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and first thing we do, Mum would bring us some cereal,

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turn the telly on and Sesame Street would be on.

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I used to absolutely love it.

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It's one of the most vivid memories, you know, as a child.

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Sesame Street was a big...

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On our street, we lived on a sort of cul-de-sac,

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and all the parents bought houses at about the same time

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because they were new houses then, back in the early '80s or whatever.

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And so all the children were around the same age

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and we were all friends.

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And we'd all watch that in the morning and then we go out

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and play our own version of Sesame Street. So we were all big fans.

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What sort of games would you play that stemmed from watching Sesame Street?

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Well, we had a tree in the field that was near this

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cul-de-sac where we lived, and the big tree would be Big Bird's nest.

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Of course, of course.

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-You've just got imagination when you're little, haven't you?

-Yeah.

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And we'd sing the same songs and... I don't know, it just seemed...

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Because I think it was filmed in New York, wasn't it? I'm not sure.

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I believe so, yeah.

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Yeah, and to us, who lived in South Wales,

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that seems the ultimate glamour.

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-Did you have a favourite character?

-Big Bird.

-Oh, really?

-Mm.

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And Groucho in the bin.

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(Bert is it!)

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-Oh, Bert and Ernie!

-Yeah.

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The very first Muppets to appear were Bert and Ernie

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Henson himself performed as Ernie.

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Fellow puppeteer Frank Oz played Bert.

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-You're it, Bert!

-Aaaagh!

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I'LL GET YOU! I'LL GET YOU!

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I'M GOING TO GET YOU!

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It's been claimed that Bert's irritation at Ernie's endless

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harebrained schemes bore a strong similarity

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to their real-life friendship.

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I'm going to get you!

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-BERT PUFFS

-Oh, you got me, Bert.

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Actually watching it as an adult, you think, this is weird!

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Do you think it was exciting because it came from America?

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-Yeah, probably.

-Do you think there was something about that, as well?

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I suppose. You know, we were all, as children, I suppose, um...

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obsessed with anything American. It seemed quite exotic, didn't it?

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Especially in Wales.

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And of course it was educational.

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It was, yeah, because every day and have a different letter

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and a different number, one or the other. Definitely.

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So yeah, I suppose it was educational, you know.

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-It won over 150 Emmys.

-Did it? Sesame Street?

-Mm-hm.

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-150 Emmys?

-Yeah.

-That's incredible, isn't it?

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Sesame Street's 47 years on our screens is impressive,

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but with shows like Playschool,

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some of our home-grown educational

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children's shows

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have had record-breaking runs.

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Playschool, starting five years earlier than Sesame Street,

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in 1964, was the first programme

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to air on BBC Two.

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It ran on the BBC for the next 24 years.

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Next up, Newsround.

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It began in 1972, presented by

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John Craven for the first 17 years.

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It's the world's first

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and longest running news magazine

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programme aimed specifically

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at children.

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But the granddaddy of them all and still going strong is Blue Peter.

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Dating back to 1958,

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it's the longest-running

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children's TV show in the world.

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Originally created to cater for five to eight-year-olds, its appeal soon

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extended to older viewers as it quickly became a BBC classic.

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So, Alex, tell me about where you lived.

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So, yeah, it was a little cul-de-sac in South Wales.

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Well, in Carmarthenshire. That's the house we've always lived in.

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-Oh, right, even to this day?

-Mum and Dad still live in the same house.

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Where was the telly, in the lounge?

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-So our lounge, the cat used to sleep on top of the telly.

-No!

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But then the telly...

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well, it sort of exploded, for want of a better word...

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Not with the cat on top of it?

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-No, thankfully. But all her fur had gone into the telly...

-No!

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Yeah, and had blocked it.

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She used to love it because it was hot on top of the telly.

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And she lived until she was 24.

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So she was doing something right.

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I mean, I googled it and I wondered if she was the oldest cat ever,

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but, damn it all, there was a cat called Cream Puff that lived to 38.

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Yeah?

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But anyway, so I used to have... Do you remember...

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Sony televisions, and there was a fashion of having white televisions?

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-Ooh! Very state of the art!

-We had it for so long it was yellow.

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LAUGHTER

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-By the time it exploded due to cat hair.

-What was the cat named?

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-Medi, which is Welsh for September.

-September.

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She was born in September.

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Has he got a cat?

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LAUGHTER

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-I shall place the cat...

-Awwww! Well, now it's perfect.

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-I feel right at home now.

-Yeah. Happy with that, are we?

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There she is.

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-Perfect! See, it adds something, doesn't it?

-Yeah.

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Well, I think it brings us all nicely on to your next choice,

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which is Must See TV.

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DRUMBEAT AND ANIMAL CALLS

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On Safari, with Christopher Biggins.

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This is when we were a little bit older watching this.

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It would be on when we got home from school.

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Aw, look at Christopher Biggins!

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-Do you member the catchphrase when he shouted "Safari"?

-No!

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"Safari!" And then the audience used to say, "So Goodie!"

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-Safari!

-ALL: So Goodie!

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Well done! Hi, Biggins here.

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Have we got a fun show for you!

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-You think Biggins was a good children's presenter?

-I do.

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Well, I used to like him.

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That was one of my favourite shows.

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This fun-filled, messy children's game show was set in a studio

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jungle filled with pools of gunge.

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It ran on ITV from 1982 for two years.

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The host was Christopher Biggins

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and you might recognise his young female co-presenter.

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CHEERING

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-Gillian Taylforth is the host!

-Look!

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Yup, a pre-Eastenders Gillian Taylforth kept track of the scores,

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as well as keeping her co-host in order.

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I heard you insured your voice for a million dollars.

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-Yes.

-What did you do with the money?

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-What's her name on EastEnders now? Kathy?

-Kathy, yeah.

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Here we are, through the gunge.

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We used to recreate this in our bedroom.

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We used to share a bedroom, me and my sister Jenny,

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and I'd have my bed there

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and she'd have her bed there, and we used to play this.

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So we used to put pillows

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and cushions across to get from one bed to the other.

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CHEERING

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They always had to cross from one path to the other without

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-getting in the swamp.

-Yeah.

-This was my favourite bit, over the water.

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-Oh, he's in!

-SHE LAUGHS

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I wonder if health and safety would allow that these days,

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let's be honest. "Oh, no, you can't do that with kids."

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-It's like where shows like Wipeout came from.

-Mm-hm.

-Isn't it?

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You used to watch this with your sister?

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-Yeah.

-Is there still a strong bond between you and your sister?

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Very, very, very.

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We used to live next door to each other for a good few years

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in Cardiff, before I came to do The One Show, yeah.

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She's the sensible one.

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She's younger, but she's the one that was, you know,

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when they were sharing out the genes, she got the commonsense gene.

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-But Jen is just lovely.

-Yeah?

-Quietly just...

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Oh, supportive... Amazing.

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-Yeah?

-Yeah. She's...

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-she's my best friend, yeah.

-Awww.

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Alongside educational programmes,

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there's always been a place in kids'

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TV for sheer outrageous fun.

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Shows like Crackerjack,

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which debuted in 1955

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and ran for nearly 30 years on the BBC, mixed games, jokes,

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music and comedy in front of a live audience of kids.

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We Are The Champions, with Ron Pickering,

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was formatted around a traditional British school sports day,

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with athletics and swimming races.

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Later, in the '70s, Cheggers Plays Pop combined games on huge

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inflatables with pop questions and current chart hits.

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In 1991, Get Your Own Back,

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with Dave Benson Phillips,

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proved that kids still loved crazy game shows,

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gunge-filled and anarchic.

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With parents and teachers dropped in the plop,

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it ran for 13 years until 2004.

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The next clip I want to show you now, Alex, is from a show that your dad used to enjoy.

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Spread your legs and arms.

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HE SPEAKS SPANISH

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What language is he speaking?

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It's French.

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Oh, Canned Carrott!

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Voulez-vous une armoire, maintenant?

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Que?

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What did you say?

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-It is the only bit of French I know.

-What does it mean?

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"Do you want a wardrobe at the moment?"

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From the early '80s, Jasper Carrott wrote and performed in numerous

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comedy sketch shows, including Carrott Confidential

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and Canned Carrott.

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His regular characters,

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hapless detective duo Louis and Briggs, with Robert Powell,

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became so popular that they were

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given their own spin-off series in 1993.

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-Dad was obsessed with - obsessed with - Jasper Carrot.

-Really?

-Yeah.

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This was kind of on quite late at night,

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I think it was about nine o'clock or something.

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So it was the last thing we were allowed to watch

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before we had to go to bed.

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Then you search his jacket.

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What's this? I have found a quantity of drugs?

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Oh! I have been naughty!

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I have got really vivid memories of sitting on Dad's lap,

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and I would get really annoyed because he would be laughing

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so much, he would be jiggling up and down and I would fall off,

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and then I'd get back on and he would laugh again and I'd fall off.

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Weirdly, about, I don't know,

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a couple of weeks ago, a few weeks ago,

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Jasper Carrott presented The One Show with me.

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APPLAUSE

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-Lovely...to see you.

-Love to see you.

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-A1, A1. Really looking forward to this.

-Good!

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Are you ready for all The One Show has to offer?

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-Dad was completely made up.

-Yeah?

0:16:430:16:45

It was...kind of his highlight, I think.

0:16:450:16:48

He said, "Well, there we are.

0:16:480:16:51

"She is sat next to Jasper Carrott, I am a happy man."

0:16:510:16:55

-And that is the only One Show he has ever recorded.

-Really?

0:16:550:16:58

The cheek of it.

0:16:580:17:00

So, was comedy and laughter a big part of the Jones' household?

0:17:000:17:03

It was, looking back, I can remember,

0:17:030:17:06

I mean, that is one of my most vivid memories,

0:17:060:17:09

is of watching television as a family and belly laughing

0:17:090:17:13

at all sorts of things.

0:17:130:17:15

What was it your mum used to enjoy?

0:17:200:17:22

Um, we used to like family sitcoms,

0:17:220:17:26

Sunday night drama, she loves, as well.

0:17:260:17:29

She will watch Downton, you know really enjoyed War And Peace,

0:17:290:17:33

that sort of thing.

0:17:330:17:35

But there is one programme your mum used to watch which should really

0:17:350:17:38

have carried a government health warning.

0:17:380:17:40

-This, of course...

-This, of course, Dynasty.

-Yeah, Dynasty.

0:17:450:17:48

This is the only show that we were allowed to stay up late to watch,

0:17:480:17:52

because Mum was obsessed, and, to be honest,

0:17:520:17:54

when Dynasty was on, nothing else mattered.

0:17:540:17:56

It was the only time Mum would really switch off.

0:17:560:17:59

Never has she been one of those mums to say,

0:17:590:18:01

"Don't talk to me, so-and-so is on,"

0:18:010:18:04

but during this, she was less keen to chat.

0:18:040:18:06

Throughout the '80s, perms and shoulder pads were in abundance.

0:18:130:18:17

Actors in Dynasty, like British-born Emma Samms, commanded

0:18:170:18:21

huge weekly audiences.

0:18:210:18:23

I used to want to be her.

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Spanning nine series and over 200 episodes,

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at its peak it was the number one drama on our screens.

0:18:310:18:35

So, the opening titles of Dynasty, do you remember?

0:18:370:18:40

All of these glamorous ladies used to come down the stairs

0:18:400:18:43

and they would stop and they would turn to the camera like that,

0:18:430:18:45

and they would be, like, windswept,

0:18:450:18:47

and then their name would come up,

0:18:470:18:48

and I thought that was the epitome of glamour.

0:18:480:18:51

So, my sister and I would run upstairs,

0:18:510:18:55

grab the closest thing to glamour we could find,

0:18:550:18:57

which, in South Wales,

0:18:570:18:58

was my mother's thermal dressing gown from M&S,

0:18:580:19:01

and drape that over our shoulders, because it was nice and long.

0:19:010:19:05

And then we would stick on a pair of

0:19:050:19:07

her high-heels and recreate the scene.

0:19:070:19:09

-And come down the stairs. Unfortunately...

-Yes?

0:19:090:19:14

..a child in high heels is never a good combination on stairs,

0:19:140:19:18

and, twice, I ended up in accident and emergency

0:19:180:19:22

-having broken my arm.

-Broken your arm?

-Broken my arm.

-Not once?

0:19:220:19:25

Not once, but twice, thanks to Dynasty. It was worth it.

0:19:250:19:31

-It was worth it?

-Yeah. The lengths girls go to for a bit of glamour!

0:19:310:19:34

Should have carried a health warning!

0:19:340:19:35

I know! Should have a warning!

0:19:350:19:37

When you were rushed to the hospital,

0:19:370:19:39

was it your dad that took you and

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your mum carried on watching the programme?

0:19:400:19:42

Yeah, "You take her, Al!"

0:19:420:19:44

LAUGHTER

0:19:440:19:47

What brings you here? And why didn't you let us know you were coming?

0:19:470:19:50

It was a last-minute thing, Jeff has to see mother about some business,

0:19:500:19:53

and I thought, "I am going, too,

0:19:530:19:55

"just to see my father's great smile."

0:19:550:19:57

Everybody was in lovely, massive shoulder pads and massive earrings.

0:19:570:20:01

I think it was just an insight into a really glamorous world,

0:20:010:20:04

and nothing else on television really compared to it at that time,

0:20:040:20:09

from what I can remember.

0:20:090:20:10

Excuse me, I thought you were alone, but I see...

0:20:110:20:14

Hello, Fallon.

0:20:170:20:18

My aim in life as a young child was to be Fallon off Dynasty.

0:20:180:20:22

I used to think she was so pretty

0:20:220:20:24

and I thought, "Gosh, she has got everything going for her."

0:20:240:20:27

I know you saved my sister's life, we are all very grateful for that.

0:20:270:20:31

You know, we have had Joan Collins on.

0:20:310:20:33

I couldn't believe it,

0:20:330:20:35

that Alexis was sitting in front of me.

0:20:350:20:37

I think it is people that you watch as a child that really stand...

0:20:370:20:41

You know, I don't get really star-struck any more,

0:20:410:20:44

but when Joan Collins came on, I thought, "Wow, you're amazing."

0:20:440:20:48

-Really?

-Yeah.

-Did she look that good in the flesh?

0:20:480:20:51

Oh, she is flawless, she is literally...

0:20:510:20:55

I looked really close up, I pretended to go in for a kiss,

0:20:550:20:57

but really, I wanted to see how many wrinkles she had.

0:20:570:20:59

LAUGHTER

0:20:590:21:01

There was nothing there. She is amazing.

0:21:010:21:04

-So, Alex, it is now time to move on to your must-see TV.

-Right.

0:21:090:21:13

Oh! Beadle about!

0:21:150:21:17

-BOTH:

-# Watch out, Beadle's about

0:21:170:21:20

# You better watch out

0:21:200:21:22

# Cos Beadle's about! #

0:21:220:21:24

APPLAUSE

0:21:240:21:27

Oh, my gosh, it is funny, isn't it, how a catchy theme tune,

0:21:290:21:33

just, can transport you to a time and a place.

0:21:330:21:36

On Saturday afternoon, you know, pools would be on.

0:21:360:21:39

-Oh, yeah!

-And do you remember the noise of the pools?

0:21:390:21:42

And it was really monotone, wasn't it? It would be like,

0:21:420:21:44

-IN MONOTONE VOICE:

-"Swansea City, one. Bristol...three."

0:21:440:21:49

And it just went on for ages,

0:21:490:21:51

and you were, like, "Oh, come on! Where's the good programmes?

0:21:510:21:54

And Dad would go, "Ssh! Shh!"

0:21:540:21:56

And then, you know, this would come on and we would all sit down.

0:21:560:22:00

We are here at Leigh-on-Sea in Essex to try and pull off...

0:22:000:22:04

-He's got classic '80s hair.

-Yeah.

0:22:040:22:07

And now they are off to enjoy a lovely lunch,

0:22:070:22:10

but they better watch out, because Beadle's about!

0:22:100:22:13

Starting in 1986 on ITV, Jeremy Beadle's hidden camera show

0:22:130:22:17

played practical jokes on members of the public for a whole decade.

0:22:170:22:22

As top Saturday night entertainment,

0:22:220:22:24

it regularly attracted 15 million viewers.

0:22:240:22:27

Even though this was a long time ago,

0:22:270:22:30

-the stunts were...

-Oh, amazing, yeah.

0:22:300:22:32

Amazing, and really big scale, weren't they?

0:22:320:22:35

What did you do that for?!

0:22:360:22:37

I just used to love it when people would get angrier and angrier,

0:22:480:22:52

and then he just, the timing that he had,

0:22:520:22:55

just before it all kicked off badly,

0:22:550:22:58

it was brilliant, wasn't it?

0:22:580:23:01

What do you think of Brian, though?

0:23:010:23:02

I think he is an outright BLEEP!

0:23:020:23:04

I used to love that, and I think it was really forward-thinking.

0:23:060:23:09

It was the first big prank show, wasn't it?

0:23:090:23:12

-It was, and it wasn't small-scale stuff.

-Oh, no.

0:23:120:23:15

I mean, it was huge things.

0:23:150:23:17

I have had a lot of things happened to me where I thought,

0:23:170:23:20

"Is Jeremy Beadle anywhere near here?"

0:23:200:23:22

Any that spring to mind?

0:23:220:23:25

I was a runner at the time.

0:23:250:23:26

-Oh, I see.

-I had just started out in television.

0:23:260:23:28

There was a man who was the first, well, it was Michael Crawford,

0:23:280:23:31

and he was doing a documentary all about

0:23:310:23:33

being the first Phantom Of The Opera,

0:23:330:23:35

and my task that day was to go and collect him from the station

0:23:350:23:39

and take him to the location where we were filming.

0:23:390:23:42

He comes off the train, lovely, lovely man.

0:23:420:23:44

And I said, "I am just going to take you, Michael, now,

0:23:440:23:47

"to the location where we are filming." He said "Yeah, absolutely."

0:23:470:23:50

Anyway, they rang and said, "We are running late,

0:23:500:23:54

"so ask him whether he wants some lunch, and take him if he does."

0:23:540:23:59

Well, at the time, I had no money, because I had only just started out,

0:23:590:24:02

and I thought, "Oh, God, how will I pay for this?"

0:24:020:24:05

I said "Are you hungry, Michael?" And he went,

0:24:050:24:07

"Oh, yeah, I could do with a snack."

0:24:070:24:08

So I took him to McDonald's, to the drive-through.

0:24:080:24:11

Because I thought, well, it is going to be really embarrassing

0:24:130:24:15

if I can't afford to buy him lunch, so I thought, I can shout him

0:24:150:24:19

a burger or something.

0:24:190:24:21

He was happy enough, but they were absolutely horrified.

0:24:210:24:25

Oh, and then there was another one, there was an alarm on the building.

0:24:250:24:31

-The alarm had broken. As it does.

-Mm-hm.

0:24:310:24:34

And then, one morning, a man called Mike, who was in a band

0:24:350:24:42

called The Alarm... Have you heard of a band called The Alarm?

0:24:420:24:45

AUDIENCE MUTTERS

0:24:450:24:47

Some of you.

0:24:470:24:48

So, Mike comes to the office, I only hear the word "alarm"

0:24:480:24:51

and I wasn't familiar with the band,

0:24:510:24:53

and he was in something that

0:24:530:24:55

I thought looked a bit like a boiler suit,

0:24:550:24:57

so I gave him a cup of coffee and steered him to the alarm,

0:24:570:25:02

and said, "There we are, it has been awful, it has been playing up,

0:25:020:25:05

"we can't get it to switch off."

0:25:050:25:07

-And I left him there.

-That is lovely!

-And off I went.

0:25:070:25:11

And then my boss said, "Where is Mike?"

0:25:110:25:15

I said, "Well, he is downstairs by the panel."

0:25:160:25:19

And he said, "What Mike is downstairs?"

0:25:190:25:22

I said, "Yes, Mike, you know, the alarm."

0:25:220:25:24

He said, "No, he is in a band called The Alarm!

0:25:240:25:27

Oh, gosh! Right, OK, so they said, "Listen, this isn't working out."

0:25:280:25:34

I was young, Brian, I was 21, straight out of university,

0:25:350:25:39

and so they said, "Do you know what?

0:25:390:25:41

"We might see if you are better off on-camera."

0:25:410:25:45

-And, so, that was that.

-The rest is history?

0:25:460:25:48

They didn't have much choice, they thought,

0:25:480:25:50

"We are not having her back on production, stick her on a show!"

0:25:500:25:53

Alex, we are now going to move on to TV fear.

0:25:580:26:01

-And this is a show...

-Uh-oh...

-Oooh?

0:26:010:26:04

-I know what it is.

-A show that used to scare you witless.

0:26:040:26:08

Hello.

0:26:090:26:11

I am talking to you, yes, you,

0:26:110:26:13

sitting there on your comfortable settee

0:26:130:26:16

and laughing a lot at this great show, feeling comfortable, secure.

0:26:160:26:20

Mortgage paid, happy in your job, pretty wife...

0:26:200:26:23

-What is scary about..

-Well, look at him!

0:26:230:26:26

Fear!

0:26:270:26:28

See?

0:26:290:26:32

I have got really vivid memories of being petrified of this man.

0:26:320:26:36

Of the legend, the comedy legend that is Kenny Everett?

0:26:360:26:40

I know, it is ridiculous, now, obviously,

0:26:400:26:42

having learned about him over the years,

0:26:420:26:45

I can really appreciate how much of a legend he is.

0:26:450:26:48

Saucy and subversive, Kenny Everett's manic comedy sketch show

0:26:480:26:53

moved to BBC One in 1981, after three years on ITV.

0:26:530:26:57

With his wild eyes and outrageous innuendo-heavy humour,

0:26:570:27:02

he kept viewers entertained for most of the decade.

0:27:020:27:05

Fear today, you know it makes sense!

0:27:050:27:08

EVIL LAUGHTER

0:27:100:27:11

-I used to do the warm-ups.

-Did you?

0:27:110:27:14

Yeah, I was Kenny Everett's warm-up man all the time he was at the BBC.

0:27:140:27:17

-And he was charming and...

-Oh, wow!

-..a lovely guy.

0:27:170:27:20

That makes me feel better.

0:27:200:27:22

I am a little bit older than you, obviously you're watching this, what age are you watching this at?

0:27:220:27:26

-Getting petrified.

-I dunno. Eight-ish, maybe?

0:27:260:27:30

I don't know, I just really vividly remember the character he used

0:27:300:27:34

to do, when he had the plastic legs or rubber legs?

0:27:340:27:38

No, those were his own legs

0:27:380:27:40

and he used to go,

0:27:400:27:41

-(IMPERSONATES KENNY EVERETT) "It is all done in the best possible taste!

-Yeah, that's it!

0:27:410:27:45

And, I don't know, for some reason as a child,

0:27:450:27:49

yeah, I wasn't keen on Kenny.

0:27:490:27:51

At all. Mum and dad used to love it.

0:27:510:27:54

Kenny Everett's gallery of bawdy, lampooning characters was boundless.

0:27:550:27:59

From the fastidious Frenchman, moustachioed Marcel Wave,

0:27:590:28:04

to punk caricature Sid Snot.

0:28:040:28:07

Hilarious even in silence, with Morris Mimer,

0:28:070:28:11

to perhaps his most memorable creation, Cupid Stunt,

0:28:110:28:15

the bearded lady movie star, complete with risque name

0:28:150:28:18

and those gravity-defying legs.

0:28:180:28:21

-Alex, it is now time to have a look at your guilty pleasure.

-Oh, right.

0:28:270:28:33

BEVERLY HILLS 90210 THEME PLAYS

0:28:330:28:35

Beverly Hills 90210. Amazing.

0:28:380:28:41

I would still be really happy watching this on a loop.

0:28:410:28:44

With one of the most star-studded postcodes

0:28:440:28:47

in the world, Beverly Hills 90210 chronicled the lives of the

0:28:470:28:51

beautiful and privileged teenagers who lived at this exclusive address.

0:28:510:28:55

-I didn't like him so much.

-No?

0:28:550:28:58

Or her.

0:28:590:29:01

But him, now that is another level.

0:29:020:29:05

Really, you like Luke Perry?

0:29:050:29:06

Yeah. I used to think Luke Perry was future husband material.

0:29:060:29:10

-My husband now looks nothing like him.

-No?

0:29:120:29:14

So, fail.

0:29:140:29:16

But I think, yeah, it was aspiring, wasn't it?

0:29:160:29:20

It's a group of teens who have got too much money, their own cars,

0:29:200:29:23

driving to school in a car! Who did that?

0:29:230:29:26

I know, I know, but they do, in America, don't they?

0:29:260:29:29

But they did, didn't they?

0:29:290:29:31

And, you know, I suppose it is when

0:29:310:29:33

you first start getting interested in boys

0:29:330:29:35

and all the rest of it.

0:29:350:29:37

As soon as he heard I talked to Dean Whitmore the guy went crazy.

0:29:370:29:40

Why would he do that?

0:29:400:29:41

With its glamorous, young cast,

0:29:410:29:43

the series became one of the most popular teen dramas of the '90s,

0:29:430:29:47

with many of its stars, like Jason Priestley, becoming huge idols.

0:29:470:29:51

Eckstern? What is that? Finley-speak?

0:29:510:29:54

I liked him as well, Jason Priestley.

0:29:540:29:57

Mind you, he has gone downhill.

0:29:570:29:59

I googled him and it was disappointing, the results.

0:29:590:30:01

LAUGHTER

0:30:010:30:03

For the first time since the fire, thanks to Finley,

0:30:050:30:07

I am feeling strong and clear and unafraid. And you just don't get it.

0:30:070:30:11

You're right, I don't get it.

0:30:110:30:14

For me, that was the ultimate escapism, it was aspiring

0:30:140:30:19

when you are young, isn't it? These teens had it all.

0:30:190:30:24

So, how old were you when you were watching this show?

0:30:240:30:27

Probably, I don't know, maybe 13, 14, or...

0:30:270:30:31

You know, as a crowd of friends at the time,

0:30:310:30:33

that was the thing to watch.

0:30:330:30:35

Now it is TOWIE or whatever, Made In Chelsea,

0:30:350:30:39

which I do watch on the sly, but when I was a teen,

0:30:390:30:42

I mean, I was a complete geek.

0:30:420:30:44

I used to go to school with my little violin, oh, God,

0:30:440:30:48

you know, I didn't come into my own, Brian, until probably 17, 18.

0:30:480:30:53

-Oh, right.

-Yeah, I was quite shy.

0:30:530:30:56

Now, Alex, we are going to look at a clip from a show,

0:31:010:31:04

-and from a presenter that has had a big influence on you.

-Yeah.

0:31:040:31:07

This is the first ever episode of...

0:31:090:31:12

TFI.

0:31:140:31:15

Beginning in 1996, and running for

0:31:180:31:20

four years in its distinctive warehouse set.

0:31:200:31:23

-You know, we all remember this on a Friday night.

-Yeah, yeah, yeah.

0:31:230:31:27

The driving force behind TFI Friday was

0:31:270:31:30

TV and radio superstar Chris Evans.

0:31:300:31:33

Good evening and welcome to Friday nights live, here on Channel 4.

0:31:350:31:38

From now on, at six o'clock, this is the place to be

0:31:380:31:41

if you want to hear live music from Skunk Anansie!

0:31:410:31:43

Did you used to watch it before a night out?

0:31:430:31:46

Yes, we did, actually,

0:31:460:31:47

but during those days, probably,

0:31:470:31:49

it would be a night out in Ritzy's in Swansea.

0:31:490:31:52

Aaay.

0:31:520:31:54

Sticky carpets. Not very exciting.

0:31:540:31:58

But, yeah, we did, we used to watch it before a night out.

0:31:580:32:01

I will talk to Dawn French, Kathy Lloyd, I will be in bed with Cher...

0:32:010:32:05

With its anarchic backstage feel and roving camera,

0:32:050:32:09

and the very latest Britpop bands,

0:32:090:32:11

it inspired a whole new style of Friday night entertainment.

0:32:110:32:15

Ocean Colour Scene, The Riverboat Song, the new single out now!

0:32:150:32:20

Ocean Colour Scene, what happened to them?

0:32:200:32:23

-So that was Chris's first TFI, was it?

-Yeah.

-Amazing.

0:32:230:32:27

I used to watch all his shows,

0:32:270:32:29

and I always thought that he was a brilliant broadcaster.

0:32:290:32:33

He has become such a solid friend.

0:32:330:32:35

-Probably my best male friend.

-And work colleague.

0:32:350:32:38

Yeah, I mean, we are an unlikely couple,

0:32:380:32:40

there's no two ways about it.

0:32:400:32:42

He is completely mental.

0:32:420:32:44

People don't really understand that Chris is, yes, he is mad and

0:32:440:32:49

he has got these funny ideas, but underneath all of that he is really

0:32:490:32:54

kind, and when I came to London and I didn't know a single person, and I

0:32:540:32:59

had only met Chris once, and we were never supposed to do a show together

0:32:590:33:02

on Friday. I met him and he said, "Why don't you do Friday with me?"

0:33:020:33:08

I said, "I am all right, thanks, I would like a long weekend,

0:33:080:33:10

"I like going home to Cardiff."

0:33:100:33:12

He said, "Look, if you do the show I promise it will be really,

0:33:120:33:16

"really good fun."

0:33:160:33:18

And I said, "Well..." And he said,

0:33:180:33:21

"Just do it for a couple of weeks, see how you feel."

0:33:210:33:23

-So I did, and then we ended up doing five years together.

-Five years.

0:33:230:33:28

-Do you miss him from the show?

-I do.

-Yeah?

-Yeah.

0:33:280:33:30

It is more like...

0:33:300:33:31

Chris Evans was Alex's

0:33:310:33:33

sofa buddy for five years from 2010, they formed a dream partnership

0:33:330:33:38

hosting the Friday edition of The One Show.

0:33:380:33:41

-Alex is single.

-All right, here we go, love.

-Cancelled! It is all over!

0:33:410:33:46

Aww. Lovely couple!

0:33:460:33:47

I used to be a member of the Dennis the Menace club.

0:33:470:33:49

That is all I am looking for.

0:33:490:33:51

Having grown-up watching him

0:33:510:33:53

and then, suddenly, having him as a co-host,

0:33:530:33:57

it is quite bizarre, really.

0:33:570:33:59

But I never felt intimidated at all, because

0:33:590:34:02

he was just so down-to-earth, kind, straightforward

0:34:020:34:07

and generous as a presenter from the word go,

0:34:070:34:09

that we just got on like a house on fire.

0:34:090:34:12

-So, Alex, can we talk about your early TV career?

-Yes.

0:34:160:34:21

How you got into it?

0:34:210:34:22

How it came about, how that spark was ignited?

0:34:220:34:26

Well, because I was such a bad television researcher,

0:34:260:34:29

-they then suggested...

-I think we definitely established that.

0:34:290:34:32

..yeah, I might be better on camera, and so,

0:34:320:34:34

for years and years I worked on children's television,

0:34:340:34:37

which really suited me.

0:34:370:34:39

It was brilliant fun, I don't know, have you done children's television?

0:34:390:34:42

You must have done lots of children's television.

0:34:420:34:45

I have done a little bit. I did do Jackanory.

0:34:450:34:47

Aww! Jackanory tells a story!

0:34:470:34:49

I think you learn a lot, and I was lucky because I am bilingual

0:34:490:34:55

and can speak Welsh as well.

0:34:550:34:57

I was really lucky that they have got...

0:34:570:35:00

S4C, is basically the Welsh Channel 4,

0:35:000:35:02

and I learned loads without anybody really knowing who I was.

0:35:020:35:07

So, when I came to The One Show I had a lot of experience,

0:35:070:35:10

but nobody had seen me before, I suppose,

0:35:100:35:14

but children's telly, I think, is the best thing.

0:35:140:35:16

You learn to leave your embarrassment at the door.

0:35:160:35:19

Because I have dressed up as everything,

0:35:190:35:21

from a dolphin to a fire engine, was the best one.

0:35:210:35:25

We've got a little clip of you on S4C.

0:35:250:35:28

COCK CROWS

0:35:280:35:30

We should put a public warning out about clothes, hair, etc,

0:35:330:35:36

because I know it's gonna be bad.

0:35:360:35:37

-You might need to help me out with the name of the programme.

-OK.

0:35:370:35:40

It is called Anifail Am Wythnos, which means animal for a week.

0:35:400:35:45

Oh, look! I'm like Biggins! See? On safari!

0:35:450:35:50

SHE SPEAKS WELSH

0:35:530:35:55

-God, I have got stripy hair.

-I wouldn't recognise you there.

0:35:550:35:58

Oh, no, I've still got that shirt, I think it is in storage in Cardiff.

0:35:580:36:04

SHE SPEAKS WELSH

0:36:040:36:06

So, the concept of this show was families would have an

0:36:120:36:16

animal for a week to see how they got on with it.

0:36:160:36:19

So I would go and deliver a bearded dragon or an alpaca to a family

0:36:190:36:25

and then we would go back at the end of the week to see how

0:36:250:36:27

they got on with it and whether they think

0:36:270:36:29

-they could have it full-time.

-Yeah, yeah, yeah.

0:36:290:36:31

SHE SPEAKS WELSH

0:36:310:36:33

GHOSTS WAIL

0:36:370:36:39

Do you miss Welsh TV?

0:36:390:36:41

I do, well, I miss Wales, but to be honest, I get back, I go home loads.

0:36:410:36:46

-I am home at least once a month.

-Yeah.

0:36:460:36:51

When you are at home, do you speak in Welsh?

0:36:510:36:53

To Mum, yeah, and to my sister. Well, you know, English.

0:36:530:36:57

Back and forth. You would be able to pick up the odd phrase in there.

0:36:570:37:03

But I am so pleased, because Mum and Dad spoke English to each other,

0:37:030:37:07

and when I was a young child they spoke English to me,

0:37:070:37:10

but then they put me into a Welsh primary and I might as well

0:37:100:37:13

have been in Spain, because I could not understand a word anybody

0:37:130:37:16

was saying, but at four it only took six weeks before I was fluent.

0:37:160:37:20

-Really?

-When you are little you absorb it, don't you?

0:37:200:37:24

-Yeah.

-I am so glad, because I don't think I would be sitting here

0:37:240:37:27

with you, Brian, if I didn't have Welsh language,

0:37:270:37:30

-because that is where...

-It all started.

0:37:300:37:32

..I sort of had a chance to...

0:37:320:37:33

Yeah, get all the experience that led me to the job I am in now.

0:37:330:37:38

My favourite Welsh word is for microwave.

0:37:380:37:42

Popty ping!

0:37:420:37:43

Isn't that lovely? Popty ping.

0:37:430:37:46

It says what it does, doesn't it?

0:37:460:37:49

-Exactly!

-It sounds like it should, popty ping! It is brilliant.

0:37:490:37:53

And another one we've got, and I think it is, actually,

0:37:530:37:57

yesterday or today was national hug week,

0:37:570:37:59

but in Wales we call it a cwtsh.

0:37:590:38:01

-A cwtsh, yeah. Give us a cwtsh.

-Give us a cwtsh.

0:38:010:38:04

And, you know, it is a nicer word.

0:38:040:38:06

I am trying to campaign to roll that out nationally.

0:38:060:38:10

-Give us a cwtsh.

-A cwtsh.

-Yeah.

-Give me a cwtsh.

0:38:100:38:12

-I used to live in Wales.

-Did you?

-I lived in Tredegar.

-No way!

0:38:120:38:17

-Round near Aberdare and Merthyr.

-Why?

0:38:170:38:20

-I used to be in a band that were based in Wales.

-Did you?

0:38:200:38:24

-It wasn't The Alarm, was it?

-No, it wasn't The Alarm!

0:38:240:38:27

Thank goodness for that!

0:38:270:38:30

LAUGHTER

0:38:300:38:32

-I never knew that.

-So your mum and dad must be very proud of you.

0:38:320:38:35

-They are, but no more proud of me than they are of my sister.

-Jenny.

0:38:350:38:39

Yeah, I mean, all they wanted, like any parents,

0:38:390:38:42

is for their daughters to be happy.

0:38:420:38:45

-Yeah, yes, of course.

-And to be honest,

0:38:450:38:47

if I got any ideas above station,

0:38:470:38:49

they would bring me right back down to Earth like that.

0:38:490:38:52

Mam and Dad are sticklers.

0:38:520:38:54

I say, "I met the Queen today," they are like,

0:38:540:38:58

"Gosh, were you wearing something tidy?" "Yes!"

0:38:580:39:01

You know. But, they... Of course they think it is fantastic, but

0:39:010:39:05

they would be the same regardless of what job I did, I'm sure.

0:39:050:39:10

So, what TV do you enjoy watching now?

0:39:150:39:18

-Now I don't get, it is funny, isn't it?

-Because you're busy.

0:39:180:39:22

We work in telly but I don't really get to watch it an awful lot.

0:39:220:39:25

-I must say, I do love Strictly.

-Yes, of course, you were in that.

0:39:250:39:30

Having been on it you watch it in a slightly different way,

0:39:300:39:33

because you know the ins and outs.

0:39:330:39:35

-What are the ins and outs, then?

-The ins and outs are,

0:39:350:39:39

you know how difficult a dance...

0:39:390:39:42

So, something can look really simple, but believe me,

0:39:420:39:46

doing a rumba on telly is the most embarrassing thing you will ever do.

0:39:460:39:51

I mean, I was dying inside.

0:39:510:39:54

Cha-cha-cha isn't, either,

0:39:540:39:55

to be honest, anything Latin I was not very good at.

0:39:550:39:58

-I like the ballroom stuff, which is a bit more elegant.

-Graceful.

-Yeah.

0:39:580:40:02

To the untrained eye,

0:40:020:40:04

some dancers can look a bit rough around the edges

0:40:040:40:07

and a bit ropey, but, honestly, believe me,

0:40:070:40:09

-to get to that point is really hard.

-Yeah.

0:40:090:40:12

So you know the ins and outs, but I still watch it as a viewer and

0:40:120:40:17

really enjoy it,

0:40:170:40:18

-and I would do it every year if that was allowed.

-Really?

0:40:180:40:21

Yeah, I absolutely loved it, because the thing is, you are not going

0:40:210:40:25

to end up a professional dancer, so you just enjoy it for what it is.

0:40:250:40:29

I mean, I was hopeless.

0:40:290:40:30

My mother, my own mother said, after the first show,

0:40:300:40:34

she said, "Well, how long is this going to go on now, Al?

0:40:340:40:36

"Because you are spoiling it for me, to be honest.

0:40:360:40:39

LAUGHTER

0:40:390:40:41

So I stuck it out till the semifinal.

0:40:410:40:44

There you are, Mary, have that!

0:40:440:40:46

-Well done, yeah.

-But it was brilliant fun.

0:40:460:40:49

I do still enjoy watching that,

0:40:490:40:50

and I like dramas, like, recently, I really liked

0:40:500:40:53

Doctor Foster with Suranne Jones.

0:40:530:40:56

I thought that was excellent.

0:40:560:40:58

I loved The Missing with Jimmy Nesbitt in it, I thought

0:40:580:41:01

that was excellent.

0:41:010:41:04

I'll normally now watch something that is kind of a short drama

0:41:040:41:07

or something. I can't commit to something long term.

0:41:070:41:11

Because everybody is busy, aren't they?

0:41:110:41:13

But, um, yeah, a bit of everything, documentaries I find really interesting.

0:41:130:41:17

I love nature programmes.

0:41:170:41:19

Um... And we are lucky that we meet all of these wonderful people

0:41:190:41:23

on them because they come on and talk about them on our sofa!

0:41:230:41:27

So, how important is The One Show to you?

0:41:270:41:29

Oh, Brian, if I had my way they would be pushing me

0:41:290:41:34

out of there with a Zimmer frame.

0:41:340:41:36

I absolutely love it, Matt and I have such a nice time. Every day.

0:41:360:41:40

And every day is different, as you know.

0:41:400:41:43

And I just love live television,

0:41:430:41:45

but the show I find interesting,

0:41:450:41:47

because there is all sorts, history, nature, all sorts of things.

0:41:470:41:51

And, normally, a lovely guest as well.

0:41:510:41:55

At this moment, Alex, I give my guests the opportunity

0:41:550:41:58

to pick a theme tune for us to play out on.

0:41:580:42:00

What is it going to be?

0:42:000:42:03

Well, I did think long and hard,

0:42:030:42:05

and, over the summer holidays, my sister and I used to love watching

0:42:050:42:10

-a show called Going For Gold.

-Yeah!

0:42:100:42:14

Do you remember it? And they used to go,

0:42:140:42:16

"Today, on the show, we have duh-duh-duh from duh-duh-duh"

0:42:160:42:18

and they would wave to the camera.

0:42:180:42:20

All different nationalities, weren't they?

0:42:200:42:22

From Finland! From Switzerland!

0:42:220:42:24

And it was just like a quiz show, wasn't it?

0:42:240:42:26

And I used to think the theme tune was just brilliant.

0:42:260:42:29

My thanks to you for being here. Have you enjoyed it?

0:42:290:42:31

It has been a pleasure, I have really enjoyed it, Brian,

0:42:310:42:33

-Thank you very much. Aww.

-Oh, two.

-I never know, in Wales it was one

0:42:330:42:38

and now in London it's two, I am confused.

0:42:380:42:40

We could also have a cwtsh.

0:42:400:42:42

-We could have a cwtsh.

-Let's have a cwtsh.

-Aww.

-There you go.

0:42:420:42:45

My thanks to you, Alex.

0:42:450:42:46

-I have loved it, thank you.

-APPLAUSE

0:42:460:42:49

Thank you. And my thanks to you for watching The TV That Made Me.

0:42:490:42:52

-See you next time. Bye-bye!

-Bye!

0:42:520:42:54

# Going for gold!

0:42:540:42:57

# The heat is on The time is right

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# It's time for you For you to play your game

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# Cos people are coming Everyone's trying

0:43:040:43:07

# Trying to be the best that they can

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# So reach for the sky Cos this space is so high

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# When they're going for going for gold!

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# Go for it, for gold!

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# Go for it, only the best survive

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# Go for it, for gold!

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# Go for it And you can take your prize

0:43:280:43:32

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