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I always shout the answers out, yes!

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University Challenge tournament.

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Asking the questions, Bamber Gascoigne.

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Mostly we were virgins.

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There were fumblings in the bike sheds, and occasional exposures.

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But otherwise, it was knickers on, I'm afraid.

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I have two types of questions.

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Starter questions and bonus questions.

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I think the rule is quite clear.

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You buzz in, you answer.

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-Pembroke, Macfie.

-Canticles.

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And they're off. Ten points to Pembroke.

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-Private Eye, Hislop.

-On a scale of one to ten of how competitive we were, about ten.

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I was attracted to the role of Bamber because it really

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-tickled me, the idea of it.

-It was a great answer.

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1962, and the news was grim.

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Marilyn Monroe was found dead in her home.

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In the same year, her old friend President Kennedy was threatening global annihilation.

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It shall be the policy of this nation to regard any nuclear missile

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launched from Cuba against any nation in the western hemisphere as an attack.

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While the world watched in dread as politicians postured over Cuba,

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in Manchester a television institution was born.

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University Challenge.

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Going against the fashion of the time, this show

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would have intellectual bite, a far cry from your average quiz.

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-Bamber Gascoigne!

-In time, its contestants would go on to become Britain's brightest and best.

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Politicians, actors, film-makers and writers and, like the best ideas, its beginnings were modest.

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There really were very few quizzes on television.

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Later of course, things like Mastermind arrived.

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-Otherwise, it was game shows.

-Twist the lever.

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-Um, women please.

-Women, they're always good for a laugh.

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The whole point of watching University Challenge is it wasn't darts, or the Golden Shot.

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It didn't have a man in a big check suit, it had Bamber Gascoigne on it.

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He was clever. And he might have known the answers.

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The producers' biggest gamble was their choice of presenter.

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His name was perfect.

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An anagram of "organised BBC game".

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Hello, and welcome again to the knockout competition on University Challenge. I was I think

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27 when we did the auditions.

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It was '62, I was 27.

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Of course, the students were only 21 or whatever.

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And at that age, six years of difference, I was old man of the hills, so to speak.

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I knew everything and they were just undergraduates.

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That is a full 10 points for that. Now, second piece.

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OPERA MUSIC PLAYS

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-OK, fine. Good.

-Carmen, Bizet.

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Very good, Carmen's Bizet.

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Rather, Bizet's Carmen I mean!

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Bamber had a lot of charm.

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And also, he was not patronising.

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Students at that time were very used to being patronised.

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-Very good, ten points to Keele.

-He had no airs or graces.

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He wasn't dominating.

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And here is your bonus for 20.

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And he was the kind of guy lads would like to have a drink with and chat with.

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I think that was a key feature of Bamber's personality.

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Three girls and one man against three men and one girl.

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This is the age of equality.

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Apart from he has the name, it's just so great, Bamber Gascoigne.

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How do you get to be called Bamber?

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What strange accident happened at the font?

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The vicar was drunk or something, "I name this child Bamber. Sorry, too late!"

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-And there he was, Bamber.

-He seemed the sort of perfect professorial figure.

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And urbane, and obviously incredibly well-read and erudite.

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But kind of wise and gentle as well.

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Kind of an Obi-Wan Kenobi figure.

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# ..He's a soft-spoken guy # All so sweet and shy... #

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# Makes me wonder why... #

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He was gorgeous.

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He had very, very blond hair.

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It could have been assisted, I'm not sure.

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But it was startlingly blond.

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And a very cheeky and friendly expression.

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Hello again and another needle match tonight.

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Seeing Bamber Gascoigne there was like

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seeing the god Apollo seated on a throne.

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And he was just incredibly dishy.

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You sat there going, "Ah, wow."

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# I just can't wait, I just can't wait to be held in his arms... #

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I think he was cool. We thought it because he was.

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He was phenomenally...

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Handsome, isn't the word. He was beautiful.

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He was indeed pretty sexy actually.

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We thought so anyway. I'm not sure if he realised we thought that, but we certainly did.

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Talking of fan mail, the story I often tell because it gives me such pleasure, almost the first letter

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I received for University Challenge was very far from being a fan letter.

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It was the precise opposite and was, I think, the most perfectly

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crafted abusive letter ever to be sent through Her Majesty's mail.

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And it said, "Dear Sir,

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"Professor Lovell calculates in the Sunday Times this morning

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"that there must be at least 1,000 other planets in this universe equally as far developed as our own.

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"But of one thing I'm certain and that is this.

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"That on all these planets there cannot be another single broadcaster

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"with an equally pansy bastard strangulated voice like yours."

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So I thought my career had come to an end within weeks of beginning.

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A bonus of 20 coming. What man has been shared by all these women?

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Fernande Olivier, Olga Koklova...

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-St Hilda's, Evans.

-Picasso.

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Picasso, ten points St Hilda's. 30 seconds to play, your bonus of 20.

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We all thought it was a job for three months.

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Had anyone known the first run of it was going to last for 25 years, and we are talking about a job for 25

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years, I think we'd have all been so frightened we could hardly have read the card.

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But Bamber wasn't the only innovation new to a quiz show audience.

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For the first time, the public was confronted by a then alien beast, the student.

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Hello, and tonight in University Challenge we have what is virtually

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a war of the roses because, one of our teams comes from Yorkshire, and the other from Lancashire.

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The captain for Manchester is Tony Boyd.

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Many people regarded students as very much a race apart.

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And very much coming from the upper and middle classes.

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And when some of us appeared on the television we patently weren't.

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-Manchester, Boyd.

-Equality of mercy is not strained.

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-Will you complete the sentence?

-But falleth as a drop as the gentle rain from heaven.

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'My accent, my northern accent, you could cut with a knife.

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'I think that did impress people that maybe ordinary people could actually go to university.'

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I did watch it as a kid.

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I sort of didn't really understand what a student was, it seemed a very strange thing.

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The only time you ever encountered students on British television was in Brideshead Revisited.

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Come on, Charles.

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Oh, you're not coming?

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Yes, aren't I? Delighted, dear boy.

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Well, that's a surprise. I suppose I'll have to go in the back.

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I suppose you realise this is going to be one of the most stupefyingly boring balls of the season?

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I haven't been to too many balls this season, so that's all right.

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-Mottram will lay on a good Jag.

-Nearly lost the bubbly.

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You're not going to drive like this all the way to London, are you? I shall be sick?

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University Challenge was the flipside of that, I suppose.

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There were people with regional accents, it seemed more democratic.

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Bernard Austin from West Ham reading politics.

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Gordon Masterton from Charlestown, Fife, reading concrete structures.

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That idea

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really appealed to me, that you could go somewhere and just

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learn, that you could go to this place where knowledge was sacred.

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The show was an overnight success with 11 million viewers tuning in.

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Making their third appearance after two victories.

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For many, going to university was as likely as stepping foot on the moon.

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In the show's early days, Britain boasted just 30 universities.

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To increase the pool of entries, Oxford and Cambridge colleges were

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invited to enter as separate entities.

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At the time, such favouritism was hardly noticed.

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And, if it was, students didn't complain.

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# ..The stars up above

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# Why must I be a teenager in love? #

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Remember, this was the 1960s, and the Sixties really didn't begin until 1967 anyway.

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So it was just after the war in many ways, and we were well behaved.

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I don't think anybody is as innocent nowadays as a 19-year-old

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boy was then, in 1962.

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# Why must I be a teenager in love? #

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It it just feels like another generation, not just another generation.

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It feels like another universe altogether.

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Peter Jones from St Essex, reading Greats.

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Roger Tomlin of Monmouthshire, reading Greats.

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You said, my name is Julian Fellowes from Chiddingline, East Sussex.

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And it was sort of, rather thrilling that your village was on television.

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It was all a long time ago I'm afraid.

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And it was a more innocent world.

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Mostly we were virgins.

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There were fumblings in the bike sheds and occasional exposures

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but otherwise, it was knickers on, I'm afraid.

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Knickers may have been on, but exhibitionism was rife.

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From the start there was a stampede among students looking for the chance to get on TV and show off.

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I was incredibly impressed by the depth of knowledge of these young men, all of whom, when I

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first started watching it when I was 13 or 14, seemed terribly grown up.

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Encyclopaedic in what they knew.

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There was I remember an audition in college for people who thought they might like to

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go on the team, and about 60 of us crammed into this room and failed to answer general knowledge questions.

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A friend of mine said, "Go on, you do it." It was a dare.

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Maybe not "auditions", but "test", for anybody who wanted to be in the University Challenge team.

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There was a general knowledge questionnaire.

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And I obviously came out among the tops.

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Then they had knockout rounds to get down to the team that was going to do the show.

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And being the kind of show-off person that you have to be, to be on

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University Challenge, I thought, I'll have a go.

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Happily, no tape of the show survives. I know that.

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When you look at me, I look like an unsuccessful contender in an Elvis look-alike contest with this

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yeti wig on my head.

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Bamber quickly became renowned for having a brain the size of a small planet.

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It was an image he was happy to encourage by cunning use of the tools of the quiz master's trade.

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Don't be surprised, I promise you it's right.

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He had this extraordinary mixture of quiet knowledge, you knew he knew the answers to the questions.

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I'm damn sure he did for most of them because he set a lot of them.

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What novel, and I must confess I'm improvising because I see

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the second part of the question was, "who wrote it."

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I've given you that, so I'll have to improvise.

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What novel by Kingsley could maybe be associated with the phrase, "Go west, young man."

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-Westwood Ho.

-Five points.

-You can tell he's got a great brain.

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He looks like he had, under his hair.

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And everything about him was clever.

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But there was a lovely gentleness to it.

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After all, he was the man in charge of the question cards.

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Bonus questions were always on pink cards.

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And the starter questions on blue cards.

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Each one would have a reference on the back saying where the information had come from.

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These were always sent down to Bamber to his home in Richmond where he would make them up into games.

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Very quickly, a devilish question especially set by

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me for you, but I thought you'd get much more neurotic about it.

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My biggest ritual of University Challenge which I could not remotely have dared to do the show without,

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and I used indeed to have nightmares of doing a show without questions that I knew about.

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On the day before, I would clear my desk, put on all the volumes of the Encyclopaedia Britannica

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and, for the whole day, I would read the questions for tomorrow's show.

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He would then adjust them to his own particular style of delivery by scribbling all over the cards

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in a very spidery handwriting which I found quite difficult to read.

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As a matter of tuning the questions to

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what I thought the show needed, and I did spend a massive of time on it.

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And it also was trying to keep alive the public's completely erroneous impression that I was omniscient,

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which I became rather enamoured of the idea of that which began quite soon.

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I didn't want to let them down by revealing gross ignorance.

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And so, writing relevant pieces of information on my card was crucial.

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We had a question, Which English Romantic poet died young in 1821?

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And I wouldn't have had a clue whether the answer was Keats or

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Shelley, both of whom died young around then.

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So, the answer is Keats.

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When one looks up Shelley, to my absolute delight I remember, Shelley died a year later.

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It was really very close, 1822.

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So you put on your card in brackets, Shelley 1822.

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And you secretly hope they will mention Shelley.

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Because if they mention Keats of course, you can't say, that's quite right.

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And incidentally Shelley died a year later.

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But if they mention Shelley, you say, "Oh bad luck, he died just a year later in 1822!"

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"No, the answer is Keats." So that's what it's all about.

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Bad luck. No, bad luck, very bad luck.

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# Walking back to happiness, hoop-la whoa yeah

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# Said goodbye to loneliness hoop-la whoa yeah... #

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Being asked tough questions by the brain of Britain in front of 11 million people was no light task.

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It was enough to panic the most confident of competitors.

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My abiding memory of my appearance on University Challenge was I got an answer wrong.

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And in my rage and frustration, I let fly with the expletive that begins with F for Freddie.

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And there it is on television.

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And now I believe it's been lost because it's been wiped.

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But it wasn't Ken Tynan who said it first, it was me!

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So, lots of support for Keele and now Queen's.

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Richard Barber from Shepperton, Middlesex, reading Natural Sciences.

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Stephen Fry from Booton in Norfolk, reading English.

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It's like going to the Houses of Parliament for the first time.

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They really do make that noise, "Hear, hear, hear..." That sort of thing.

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-Similarly, it's rather wonderful to be in Granada and see they really do go, "Queen's, Fry."

-Queens, Fry.

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Hansel and Gretel.

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Correct, ten points to Queen's and a bonus of 15.

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And the starter for ten was a classic catchphrase of its day.

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Let's go straight into the game, here's the first starter for ten.

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A big one coming here, your starter for ten. Bonus of 15 coming. Your starter for 10.

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Thursday is named after the Anglo-Saxon god, Thor. For whom is Wednesday...

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- Woden. - Woden is correct.

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Who was the South African who received the Nobel Peace Prize...

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I know this.

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Well, I've got all sorts of ideas but I can't think what the answer is.

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-You're on your own, no conferring.

-Well, there you go.

-Is it, um, um...

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HE BURBLES

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-What was the question?

-Um...

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-Trout!

-What, did I know that answer?

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The interesting thing about a catchphrase is, you never realise you're going to create it.

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"Starter for ten" was the first, obviously.

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-The answer, it was?

-Pen?

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No, Mars. "Fingers on the buzzers" is more interesting.

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Early on, I was aware that very often people were not managing to answer the question because some

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people were ready with their fingers on the buzzer and others were sitting

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about smiling and listening. And then were going like that.

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And so I naturally said, to help them all, "Fingers on the buzzers". And that becomes a catchphrase.

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Pressing the buzzer was the easy part.

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Following up with an answer was another matter.

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When you pressed the buzzer, automatically everyone else's buzzers cut out.

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In fact, when you're watching television, it looks as if this

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person from Manchester University knows the answer to this question.

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In fact, probably all of them have pressed the button.

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And you have to get the trick of pressing the button when you think you might know the answer.

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And I pressed the button instantly and of course the camera focused down on me, everybody stares at me,

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some voice screams out, "Simpson, Magdelene."

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And then I was left as it were with nothing between me and eternity.

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And I made a complete fool of myself on one question, when it was,

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"Who is the thousandth descendant of the Emperor...?"

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And it turned out to be the Emperor of Japan was the answer.

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But I had read that weekend in one of the colour sections that, for some reason or other,

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a clown who was popular at the time, Joey the clown, had claimed descent from the Holy Roman Emperor.

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So, I thought this was a trick question.

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And I pressed the button and said Joey the clown.

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And I can remember Bamber Gascoigne looked at me as if I'd gone completely mad.

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He just thought, when can I just get rid of these four people and get some sanity back on to this show?

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I loved the sense of the excitement, and the notion of really being able

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to busk it, and get through on sheer gutsiness and imagination,

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I loved all of that. It may have been black and white, and I may have been wearing a dreadful suit

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and a white shirt and tie, but I felt this was me, this was where I belonged.

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Watching it when I was a teenager, I was aware of two things.

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One is how clever these students were, how much they seemed to know.

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And the other thing was, how old they looked.

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Queen's, Barber.

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# Because you're gorgeous

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# I'd do anything for you... #

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The students may have felt they'd arrived, but the reality of the show was anything but glitz and glamour.

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Picture bonus.

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The set was incredibly makeshift in those days.

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It was like going to a garden shed with cardboard cut-outs.

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You sat behind the panel and what you were sitting at was little more

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than a workbench basically.

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It was very cheap and very thrown together.

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It was the antithesis of the slick glossy

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money-orientated game shows.

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It always felt slightly kind of plywood.

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Makeshift and cheapskate perhaps, but University Challenge did have

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a couple of technical innovations which became the stuff of legend.

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When Challenge went on air, all our viewers were quite convinced

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that the teams were actually sitting one on top of each other.

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Whereas, in fact, they were sitting side by side in the studio.

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And by electronic trickery, we placed one on top of the other.

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I seem to remember one of the teams who'd realised they were on top,

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showering bits of torn-up paper on to the team below

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which of course never arrived on them because it just landed on the floor in front of them.

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And another team, when there was a girls' college which was the uppermost one on the screen,

0:19:440:19:50

these boys all tended to do this from time to time, as if they were trying to look up their skirts!

0:19:500:19:56

Just six years after those buttoned up first shows, times were changing.

0:20:000:20:05

By 1968, the Beatles had swapped rock and roll for meditation.

0:20:050:20:08

# I am the god of hellfire! And I bring you... Fire! #

0:20:080:20:15

And students had swapped books for banners. They were revolting.

0:20:150:20:19

On the march and in-your-face, and that was just their hair.

0:20:190:20:23

Political, vocal, radical, they were out to challenge authority at every turn.

0:20:230:20:29

I think the great change in student behaviour just has to be the international one of 1968.

0:20:290:20:35

Suddenly students felt the world was theirs, they could do anything.

0:20:350:20:37

That authority was intolerable.

0:20:370:20:40

Suddenly, on University Challenge, students coming on

0:20:420:20:47

were interested in

0:20:470:20:50

not behaving well deliberately.

0:20:500:20:53

This is your life, do what you want, you know.

0:20:550:20:58

That philosophy entirely occupied the moral ground.

0:20:580:21:03

And everyone was going off to San Francisco and smoking dope.

0:21:030:21:08

I mean, I wasn't, but there was a cloud of dope hanging over Cambridge.

0:21:080:21:13

You could hardly see the sun.

0:21:130:21:15

# What did you do there? I got high!

0:21:150:21:18

# What did you feel there? Well, I cried! #

0:21:180:21:22

There was a pub in Cambridge where you could get drugs if you wanted to, and there was a chemist's shop

0:21:220:21:28

which was rumoured to sell you things over the counter if you paid enough money for it.

0:21:280:21:33

I never had the money. And I was nervous about the whole idea of it.

0:21:330:21:37

# ..It's all too beautiful

0:21:370:21:40

# I feel inclined to blow my mind... #

0:21:400:21:44

It's often been suggested that one or two students were a little bit

0:21:440:21:49

high when programmes were recorded in our studios.

0:21:490:21:54

We didn't actually provide drink until after the programmes were over.

0:21:540:21:59

# ..Tell you what I'll do What will you do?

0:21:590:22:03

# I'd like to go there now with you... #

0:22:030:22:05

But I used to tell the teams where the nearest pub was.

0:22:050:22:09

And said, "An odd drink is not a bad idea.

0:22:090:22:13

"But a surfeit is a very bad thing."

0:22:130:22:17

What did we do? We went off and had a drink at the local pub.

0:22:170:22:20

When I said, we had a drink, that's probably an understatement.

0:22:200:22:23

We probably had several drinks.

0:22:230:22:25

The effect of this is our nervous disposition totally disappeared.

0:22:250:22:30

# We'll drink a drink, a drink to Lily the Pink, the pink, the pink The saviour of the human race...

0:22:300:22:37

We couldn't care less what happened.

0:22:370:22:40

We were relaxed, we were looking forward to it. Nothing to lose.

0:22:400:22:44

And of course in the context of University Challenge, that

0:22:440:22:46

couldn't have been better because, finger on the button, instead of worrying that you had the right

0:22:460:22:51

answer before you press the button, we were carefree and careless, pressed it and won the match.

0:22:510:22:56

# ..medicinal compound, and now he's learning how to fly... #

0:22:560:23:02

We were advised that having a drink before the show was a good idea.

0:23:020:23:06

And I needed no second invitation. I had a very hard head even at that age so I had several drinks

0:23:060:23:11

in the pub beforehand, mostly barley wine which was a real student drink.

0:23:110:23:15

It packed a huge punch per penny.

0:23:150:23:17

# We'll drink a drink, a drink, to Lily the Pink, the pink, the pink... #

0:23:170:23:23

And the other great thing was you could smoke.

0:23:230:23:26

In those days, everybody smoked, you were obliged to smoke, especially on television.

0:23:260:23:30

It made you looked very intellectual.

0:23:300:23:33

And I puffed my way through a packet of 20 No. 6.

0:23:330:23:38

I must have got through the whole packet in the course of the rehearsal and the programme.

0:23:380:23:42

And my parents were just appalled, watching this at home.

0:23:420:23:45

There was this revolting-looking youth with this terrible shaggy hair.

0:23:450:23:50

I looked like a female impersonator, wearing an ill-fitting wig.

0:23:500:23:54

Clouds of smoke and half cut as well.

0:23:540:23:58

I just don't know how they survived the shame of it.

0:23:580:24:01

There was one occasion when one had had the surfeit, and shortly into the programme, his head fell, thump!

0:24:010:24:09

With an enormous thwack.

0:24:090:24:11

Not to be raised. We had to stop the tape, go in, drag him out, put the reserve in, and start again.

0:24:110:24:18

By the early '70s, 18 new universities had opened,

0:24:210:24:25

but the rules of University Challenge stayed the same.

0:24:250:24:28

Oxbridge colleges were still regarded as separate institutions.

0:24:280:24:31

As for the polys, well this was University Challenge.

0:24:310:24:35

For some revolutionaries this was provocative evidence of the class system at work.

0:24:350:24:41

In Granada's own back yard a group of conspirators began to plot the overthrow of the old regime.

0:24:450:24:51

University Challenge at that stage firstly didn't let any Polytechnics

0:24:570:25:00

or Colleges of Further Education, who were of course our proletarian brothers and sisters in struggle.

0:25:000:25:06

And also, they let all these people from all the different Oxbridge colleges, so that

0:25:060:25:11

Oxford and Cambridge had about 40 teams between them, whereas Manchester University only had one.

0:25:110:25:16

So this was proof that it was an elitist institution,

0:25:160:25:19

a, if you like, a kind or ideological arm of the state

0:25:190:25:23

apparatus, and therefore we were entitled to take action against it.

0:25:230:25:27

We used to have a remarkable rapport with the students, but there was one occasion

0:25:300:25:36

when the University of Manchester caused us a great deal of trouble.

0:25:360:25:40

Bamber Gascoigne of course was a legendary figure, for all that he was the class enemy,

0:25:400:25:45

and before the programme, I found myself standing next to

0:25:450:25:49

him in the gents, so I could attest to the fact that, you know, he was a man just like any other man.

0:25:490:25:54

And yet we were going to have to destroy his programme, his baby.

0:25:540:25:59

And they'd made this plan as some kind of protest

0:26:020:26:06

for the furtherance of the dictatorship of the proletariats at some date yet to be arranged,

0:26:060:26:12

that it would help by saying the name of Trotsky and Marx.

0:26:120:26:16

Karl Marx?

0:26:160:26:18

Che Guevara.

0:26:180:26:19

Trotsky.

0:26:190:26:21

- Trotsky. - It just seems

0:26:210:26:24

faintly irritating because we stopped the show two or three times and said, "Look, don't go on being ridiculous,

0:26:240:26:30

"Why don't you just settle down and behave sensibly?" - Trotsky.

0:26:300:26:33

-Karl Marx.

-He said something about Pythagoras, we say Che Guevara.

0:26:330:26:37

He says something about some Mozart opera and we say Trotsky.

0:26:370:26:42

-Trotsky.

-Trotsky.

0:26:420:26:44

-Karl Marx.

-Trotsky.

0:26:440:26:46

And this went on for some time, but actually we only knew about

0:26:460:26:50

five or six revolutionary leaders so we ran out of that after a while.

0:26:500:26:54

I remember Gascoigne's legendary patience getting a little frayed

0:26:540:26:57

by the end of it and I think he called them childish at some point.

0:26:570:27:00

-The extraordinary thing was that it was shown.

-Che Guevara.

0:27:000:27:04

Karl Marx.

0:27:040:27:05

Highly unpopular in this studio and tends to lead to ejections, so let's stop.

0:27:050:27:10

Indeed of course we were aware that if we did continue the show and show it, that actually they would

0:27:100:27:14

look quite ridiculous and it was their problem rather than ours.

0:27:140:27:18

Now of course, that would be headline news.

0:27:180:27:22

It would be the big story on the front of every tabloid newspaper.

0:27:220:27:26

Imagine if this happened on Countdown, though it's highly unlikely. Can you imagine that?

0:27:260:27:33

It's a wonderful picture, isn't it?

0:27:330:27:36

I'll have a...

0:27:360:27:39

consonant on behalf of the people, please, Carol.

0:27:390:27:43

And I will have a vowel that sees every member of the aristocracy

0:27:430:27:48

shot and their blood running in rivers down Park Lane, please Carol.

0:27:480:27:52

In 1979 there was a new presence in Downing Street,

0:27:520:27:57

and with it came an end to universal grants and hallowed privileges.

0:27:570:28:00

# ..Daylight dawns You wake up and you're Mr Clean

0:28:000:28:05

# A piece of toast from the one you love most and you leave... #

0:28:080:28:13

My first year at university Margaret Thatcher came to power and that really

0:28:130:28:17

saw the end of any sense of students being a powerful, influential body, in national opinion.

0:28:170:28:22

And more fundamentally I think that what happened with Thatcher was that

0:28:220:28:26

it suddenly became important to get a good degree, and I think I was the

0:28:260:28:29

last of the student generations for whom it was supremely unimportant to get a good degree.

0:28:290:28:34

Where there is discord, may we be bring harmony.

0:28:340:28:37

Where there is error, may we bring truth.

0:28:370:28:40

Where there is doubt, may be we bring faith.

0:28:400:28:43

And where there's despair, may we bring hope.

0:28:430:28:46

What is the correct order for the six colours after all the reds have been pocketed in snooker?

0:28:460:28:53

Queen's, Fry.

0:28:530:28:54

Yellow, green, brown...

0:28:540:28:59

Blue, pink, black.

0:28:590:29:00

Correct, I wasn't giving anything away while you were saying it...

0:29:000:29:03

It was my first experience of being on television

0:29:030:29:05

and I was supremely nervous, and you don't know whether you're going to get some awful rush of blood to the

0:29:050:29:10

head and buzz too early all the time and keep getting it wrong.

0:29:100:29:13

Or whether you're going to be so inhibited that you're not going to buzz at all, even when you know it.

0:29:130:29:17

The man who partnered George Burns in the film version of The Sunshine Boy?

0:29:170:29:22

Queen's, Fry.

0:29:220:29:24

Um, sorry, hang on, just...

0:29:240:29:26

It is?

0:29:260:29:29

Matthau. Walter Matthau.

0:29:290:29:32

You got there just in time.

0:29:320:29:34

-All right.

-And the fact that we got to the final, our team at Queen's, and lost to Oxford of all people.

0:29:340:29:39

It wouldn't matter if we'd been beaten by Keele or Imperial or Manchester or Leeds or Sheffield

0:29:390:29:44

or whatever, that would have been fine, but to be beaten by an Oxford college was just

0:29:440:29:48

the most humiliating thing of all so we had a lot of ground to make up.

0:29:480:29:52

"...smile, if not why then this parting was well made."

0:29:520:29:56

Stephen Fry may have lost that final, but four years later he was back.

0:29:590:30:03

Although this time it was in a sketch on The Young Ones and he was being asked questions by Bambi.

0:30:030:30:10

At least we're going to smash the oiks from Scumbag College on University Challenge.

0:30:100:30:13

We've just got time before my balls drop.

0:30:130:30:16

We didn't mind mocking ourselves as being apparent hoorays, you know.

0:30:160:30:19

I played a character called Lord Snot.

0:30:190:30:21

Well, I've done my revision.

0:30:210:30:23

The Daily Mirror Book of Facts - Did You Know?

0:30:250:30:28

Do you think that's where they get the questions from?

0:30:280:30:30

All the people who got on University Challenge are brainy.

0:30:300:30:33

You know that, don't you? Of course you do, you're brainy.

0:30:330:30:35

So, we never got the chance to go on.

0:30:350:30:38

It seemed perfect for the kind of place where we shouldn't be.

0:30:380:30:41

Oh, you love a lot of fur since we last met.

0:30:410:30:43

And you're walking on two legs now, I see. But still the same old Bambi.

0:30:430:30:46

I loved it. I thought that Griff Rhys Jones was absolutely brilliant apart from his feeble wig.

0:30:460:30:51

Is that true, Bambi?

0:30:510:30:53

Did you do a Disney nasty?

0:30:530:30:54

-So what if I did?

-He's an icon.

0:30:540:30:57

And that's because Bamber looks a bit like Bambi.

0:30:570:31:00

He's innocent and fresh and has his chin up and is lovely.

0:31:000:31:03

We all had a crush on him.

0:31:030:31:04

We were deep ingrained, in the veins hetros, but we all really fancied Bamber.

0:31:040:31:10

Well, are you going to let us win?

0:31:100:31:12

No, of course not. The posh kids win. They always do.

0:31:120:31:14

It's the kind of very understandable revenge

0:31:140:31:18

of the breeze block and red brick university against the dominance

0:31:180:31:22

of the hated Oxbridge cadre, both in University Challenge terms and in comedy terms.

0:31:220:31:29

Hello and welcome to another edition of University Challenge.

0:31:290:31:32

This week the teams represent Footlights College Oxbridge.

0:31:320:31:35

Rah, rah, rah! We're going to smash the oiks!

0:31:350:31:39

Our representatives, us ordinary people, and then having the Oxbridge lot on the other side, 'twas war.

0:31:390:31:46

'Twas war. It's the English Civil War.

0:31:460:31:49

Us, representing the crap, right mate?

0:31:490:31:52

And the poshies representing the posh.

0:31:520:31:55

It was wonderful. We're getting thrashed!

0:31:550:31:58

We're getting completely thrashed! Isn't there some way we can cheat?

0:31:580:32:01

The real split screen joke began when The Young Ones did this...

0:32:010:32:05

And started pouring water down on the team below to prevent them answering the questions.

0:32:050:32:11

And that actually was a wonderfully funny joke.

0:32:110:32:14

I'm completely bloody sick of this!

0:32:140:32:16

Comedians, hippies and punks - everyone loved University Challenge.

0:32:200:32:25

But even this show had its day.

0:32:250:32:28

Shuffled round the schedules, modernised and made over, in 1987 it was finally dropped.

0:32:280:32:34

After 978 episodes Bamber Gascoigne uttered his last starter for 10.

0:32:340:32:40

From our new champions, Keeble, and from me until, may we hope,

0:32:400:32:43

another series sometime in the future, that's the end of this one.

0:32:430:32:46

Until another time, perhaps, goodbye.

0:32:460:32:48

I'll go and say goodbye to the teams and congratulate them.

0:32:480:32:51

While the show was away times were changing.

0:32:510:32:54

Everyone was into demos, not just students.

0:32:540:32:56

Margaret Thatcher made a quick exit from No. 10.

0:32:560:33:00

I feel there's a kind of lost generation of people who would have gone on and never got the chance.

0:33:000:33:06

And their mascots remain forever unclaimed.

0:33:060:33:10

Sit-ins turned into raves. Even polytechnics grew into universities.

0:33:100:33:14

After just seven years in retirement the show was about to be reborn.

0:33:140:33:18

When I was asked to again I was very busy with an enormous project, which has kept me going ever since.

0:33:180:33:25

It's a bold concept - a history of the world on the internet.

0:33:250:33:28

Because I did spend so much time reading around the questions,

0:33:280:33:31

I just felt that I couldn't combine it with this new passion of mine.

0:33:310:33:35

And my wife said, "I've had enough of you being recognised all over the place.

0:33:350:33:38

"Why don't you have a peaceful old age and be an ordinary chap again?"

0:33:380:33:42

I knew that Bamber wanted to give it up and I couldn't think who could do it.

0:33:420:33:48

Chancellor, when are interest rates going to come down?

0:33:480:33:52

-"Clark, Conservative".

-Eh...

0:33:520:33:53

When economic conditions dictate.

0:33:530:33:55

Yeah! Look, I'm not even doing that show.

0:33:550:33:59

The first time I saw myself on Spitting Image I thought, who's that supposed to be?

0:33:590:34:02

Then I thought, God, it's supposed to be me.

0:34:020:34:05

Oh, why am I doing University Challenge?

0:34:050:34:08

-"Clark, Conservative".

-Because you didn't get the job on Question Time.

0:34:080:34:11

That's right Ken, well done.

0:34:110:34:14

When Jeremy got the job I thought, of course.

0:34:140:34:18

Hello, welcome to a new series of University Challenge,

0:34:210:34:25

the legendary search for the UK's brightest student quiz team.

0:34:250:34:28

He couldn't be more different from me.

0:34:280:34:29

He has this image of being the tough guy, really a hard man.

0:34:290:34:34

And I was always a bit of a softie really.

0:34:340:34:37

Bamber was a kindly don eliciting information from his very bright students.

0:34:370:34:42

Paxman is disappointed that today's students just don't know enough.

0:34:420:34:46

-No, if you buzz you must answer. You lose five points.

-Sorry.

0:34:460:34:51

-Why did you buzz then?

-E=MC2?

-Too easy, isn't it? No, you may not confer either!

0:34:510:34:57

-"Television, Kearney".

-Eh, rose window?

-Did he tell you that?

-No.

-OK, I'll accept it then.

0:34:570:35:01

He can be occasionally rather contemptuous.

0:35:010:35:04

I want to be as kind to you as I possibly can, New Hall, but it's a terrible score.

0:35:040:35:09

When someone gets a century hopelessly wrong he's the first to be extremely screwy faced about it.

0:35:090:35:15

-No.

-It always rather amuses me when he baits the students for not knowing

0:35:150:35:19

the answer to a question, because I always think, at 18, Jeremy, did you know that?

0:35:190:35:23

I can't imagine how clever it was of them to have found

0:35:230:35:28

-the only other Bamber Gascoigne, but a Bamber Gascoigne with attitude.

-Yes, I'll accept that. Just about.

0:35:280:35:36

I would like a doctor like Jeremy Paxman.

0:35:360:35:38

I would like a doctor who doesn't flannel.

0:35:380:35:41

And he doesn't.

0:35:410:35:43

Straight to the point. What's the answer? Bang!

0:35:430:35:45

Knowing the answer always helps if you want to win, as does a bit of enthusiasm.

0:35:450:35:50

I like students.

0:35:500:35:52

I like what they know. I'm amazed by what they know and also, sometimes, what they don't know.

0:35:520:35:58

I love their eagerness.

0:36:000:36:02

However, in the 1997 series the students at New Hall, Cambridge

0:36:040:36:09

seemed less than eager to represent their college on the show.

0:36:090:36:13

Someone put a poster up in New Hall to get together a University Challenge team.

0:36:130:36:17

And I think about five people turned up.

0:36:170:36:20

So it wasn't actually all that difficult to get a team together.

0:36:200:36:23

-Yeah.

-You had to have four and one reserve.

0:36:230:36:25

I don't think I even actually turned up to the pub quiz.

0:36:250:36:28

I can't really remember that bit. I remember in the bar later.

0:36:280:36:31

Hello, welcome to another first round match of University Challenge,

0:36:310:36:34

and more reassurance that the taxpayers' money isn't being wasted on education, we hope.

0:36:340:36:40

Several million taxpayers were watching.

0:36:400:36:43

Fingers were on buzzers, the nation expected and then...

0:36:430:36:47

"Goodness had nothing to do with it", published in 19...

0:36:470:36:50

-"New Hall, Coleman".

-Sorry, forgot.

0:36:500:36:52

Bad luck, you lose five. The term "glorious revolution"

0:36:520:36:55

is used to describe the events which placed which king on the British throne?

0:36:550:36:58

-Charles II?

-Charles II? No.

0:36:580:37:01

-We don't know.

-You've hopped around every century except the right one.

0:37:010:37:03

It's William III.

0:37:030:37:05

Initially it was like watching some terrible road accident in slow motion.

0:37:050:37:12

Every time they tried to buzz in they got it wrong.

0:37:120:37:15

-"New Hall, Shaw".

-Miller.

-No.

-"New Hall, Shaw".

0:37:150:37:19

-Heaven.

-No.

-"New Hall, Shaw".

-Napkin.

-No, you lose five points.

0:37:190:37:23

You saw him staring at you and he's like, come on girls!

0:37:230:37:26

And you're like, oh no, I'm letting him down!

0:37:260:37:29

The one good thing is we don't get the same treatment as the politicians.

0:37:290:37:32

He doesn't carry on asking the question until he gets an answer he likes.

0:37:320:37:35

-That's true.

-I felt terribly, terribly sorry for them and started sort of willing them on.

0:37:350:37:43

But you can't fake it.

0:37:430:37:45

The thing has to be like Caesar's wife, it has to be unimpeachable.

0:37:450:37:48

You can't fix it. It has to be the best team winning.

0:37:480:37:51

-"New Hall, Shaw".

-Christopher Dean.

-Christopher Dean, hooray!

0:37:510:37:54

It takes you up to a magnificent minus five.

0:37:560:38:00

It was difficult, because once you get to that stage you know you're going to lose.

0:38:000:38:04

Do you lose quietly, calmly, or do we have that final, last ditch effort of get every

0:38:040:38:09

piece of knowledge that may still be in your brain and spurt it out?

0:38:090:38:13

Some teams do take it seriously.

0:38:130:38:16

Too seriously, I would say.

0:38:160:38:18

But the majority, the nicest teams, the best teams, are the ones who, they obviously want to do well,

0:38:180:38:24

but who realise, it's only a bloody game.

0:38:240:38:26

Which two-word popular name is affectionately applied to the flag of the USA?

0:38:260:38:30

Stars and stripes.

0:38:300:38:33

-Two-word.

-Uncle Sam. Uncle Sam.

-Uncle Sam, no, I'm afraid not.

0:38:330:38:36

It's Old Glory.

0:38:360:38:37

By that stage me and certainly Abbey were sat there going, I'm not saying anything more now, that's it.

0:38:370:38:45

Rosie valiantly just carrying on.

0:38:450:38:48

-I think I'm good at lost causes.

-Yeah.

0:38:480:38:50

What was the title of the piece by Elgar to which AC Benson set the words of Land of Hope and Glory?

0:38:500:38:55

Pomp and Circumstance March No. 4.

0:38:550:38:58

-Pomp and Circumstance March No. 4.

-I'll take it. I think it was No. 1, but Pomp and Circumstance is right.

0:38:580:39:03

It brings you to a majestic zero.

0:39:030:39:06

Getting a big cheer when you get back to nought is...

0:39:060:39:09

isn't a good sign.

0:39:090:39:12

And as the thing went on,

0:39:120:39:14

one began to realise that

0:39:140:39:17

they weren't going to pull anything out of the fire.

0:39:170:39:20

Don't know.

0:39:200:39:22

Don't give up, please.

0:39:220:39:24

They scrambled back to, what was it, 35 or something?

0:39:240:39:27

I mean, I remember it.

0:39:270:39:29

I thought, 35 is the most awful score I've ever seen on this show.

0:39:290:39:35

Don't be deterred from buzzing in, New Hall, it's the best way back.

0:39:350:39:38

It helps if you've got the right answer, but just keep on doing it.

0:39:380:39:41

And then I started thinking, actually in a way

0:39:410:39:45

it's quite distinguished really to have achieved such an abysmal score.

0:39:450:39:49

I suppose what you want from your appearance on University Challenge

0:39:520:39:56

is a nation kind of open mouthed with awe at your extraordinary knowledge and insight and intellect.

0:39:560:40:03

But the reality, I think, is a nation of people going, "I can't believe he didn't know that."

0:40:030:40:08

The nicknames cheesemongers, cherrypickers, Bob's own, the emperor's chambermaids

0:40:080:40:13

and the immortals are or have been used for which group of men?

0:40:130:40:17

-"UMIST, Bright."

-Homosexuals?

0:40:170:40:19

No. No, they're regiments in the British Army!

0:40:190:40:22

They'll be very upset with you, UMIST.

0:40:220:40:26

Getting the wrong answer can often prove to be extremely embarrassing.

0:40:260:40:30

Thumer, toucher, long man, lechman and little man are old and middle

0:40:300:40:36

-English names for which parts of the human body?

-"King's, Scoffing."

0:40:360:40:41

-Penis.

-No.

0:40:410:40:43

-"Keeble, Dobie."

-Fingers?

0:40:430:40:45

Fingers is correct, yes.

0:40:450:40:47

How many penises do they teach you we have nowadays?

0:40:490:40:55

In April 2003 the professionals spin-off series

0:40:550:40:58

allowed more mature minds to face their own starter for 10.

0:40:580:41:03

Hello. Worlds collide tonight, commerce

0:41:030:41:06

against the arts, as the voice of British business takes on one of the world's leading opera houses.

0:41:060:41:11

Having gone to university in the early '90s,

0:41:110:41:14

the show wasn't on television so I didn't have the chance.

0:41:140:41:17

So, the professionals series was the perfect opportunity to make amends for that.

0:41:170:41:23

-"Royal Opera House, Cann."

-Is it Seneca?

0:41:230:41:27

-It is, yes.

-"Royal Opera House, Cann."

0:41:270:41:29

-Kurt Weill.

-That's right.

0:41:290:41:31

"Royal Opera House, Cann."

0:41:310:41:33

The Emperor Karl of Austria.

0:41:330:41:35

That is correct, yes.

0:41:350:41:37

We got off to a very good start and we were well ahead for most of the match.

0:41:370:41:43

But towards the end the CBI, who we were playing,

0:41:430:41:46

answered a sequence of questions, plus the bonuses, and they caught up

0:41:460:41:51

so that when the gong sounded at the end of the match, Jeremy announced that it was a dead heat.

0:41:510:41:56

That's the gong. We have an absolute dead heat, 100 points apiece.

0:41:560:42:00

So there would now be a tie break.

0:42:000:42:03

Right, what happens now, it's the first one to answer a starter question correctly.

0:42:030:42:09

But beware, because if you buzz in incorrectly you lose five points and the other team

0:42:090:42:15

automatically wins without even having to answer the question. So here we go, 10 points for this.

0:42:150:42:19

-Grockles is a word used mainly in Devon to refer to...

-"Royal Opera House, Cann".

0:42:190:42:23

I had buzzed in absolutely overjoyed that I had got the right answer

0:42:230:42:28

and was going to win the match single handed. Tourists.

0:42:280:42:32

No, I'm afraid you lose five points.

0:42:320:42:33

Oh no!

0:42:330:42:36

My insides just dissolved when I realised that the question

0:42:360:42:42

was changing track and that I'd got the wrong answer.

0:42:420:42:45

Rather than single handedly winning the match, I had single handedly lost it.

0:42:450:42:50

It does refer to tourists.

0:42:500:42:52

But I wanted the equivalent term used in Cornwall,

0:42:520:42:57

which is emits. So, I'm afraid that without the CBI even having to answer it, I'm afraid you've lost.

0:42:570:43:02

Coming from an area of Devon reasonably close to Cornwall,

0:43:020:43:05

we use the Cornish equivalent "emits" almost interchangeably with "grockles".

0:43:050:43:10

So, I could have answered it correctly if I had waited.

0:43:100:43:14

Although it is a bit of fun,

0:43:140:43:17

in the heat of the moment you do take things very seriously.

0:43:170:43:22

-And I was just full of despair in that one moment.

-Bad luck, Opera House.

0:43:220:43:28

It was a very, very easy mistake to make.

0:43:280:43:31

But it cost you the contest, I'm afraid.

0:43:310:43:33

Thank you very much for taking part. CBI, well done.

0:43:330:43:35

Did you know the answer to the last question?

0:43:350:43:38

To tell the truth, I pressed, he beat me and I was going to say tourist as well.

0:43:380:43:42

Ah well, honours are shared then.

0:43:420:43:45

The producer, I think, came up to me and said, "Ah, that's great television!"

0:43:450:43:49

And there I was in the pit of misery.

0:43:490:43:52

And that's not wholly what I wanted to hear.

0:43:520:43:56

Some famous faces now got the chance to display their great knowledge.

0:43:560:44:01

Welcome to another first round match in our search for the UK's brainiest institution.

0:44:010:44:06

I got, I think it was a call from the producer saying, "We're going to do a sort of grown up version of

0:44:060:44:12

"University Challenge with professional teams, and would Private Eye like to put a team in?"

0:44:120:44:17

We all had to admit we were really keen to appear.

0:44:170:44:20

It was really like feeling you were inside a television set.

0:44:200:44:24

Unlike any other programme I've been on,

0:44:240:44:26

you were properly on the television if you were on University Challenge.

0:44:260:44:30

Hello, I'm Martha Kearney and I'm the Political Editor of Newsnight.

0:44:300:44:34

It's a programme I enjoy watching.

0:44:340:44:36

It has a certain rapid-fire pace about it,

0:44:360:44:41

unlike most television programmes where one is shouting, "Get on with it", at the screen.

0:44:410:44:47

Sorry.

0:44:520:44:52

It seemed harmless fun.

0:44:520:44:55

So I said yes.

0:44:550:44:56

If anyone said to you it was a jolly day out, I think they're probably lying.

0:44:560:45:01

On a scale of 1 to 10 of how competitive, we were about 10.

0:45:010:45:06

When I saw saw these famous numbskulls in the other team,

0:45:060:45:11

much more famous than any of the arts people,

0:45:110:45:17

of course we felt competitive.

0:45:170:45:20

About halfway through when it looked as though we were

0:45:200:45:22

going to be beaten by Debretts, I thought, "I can't bear it.

0:45:220:45:25

"I just can't bear it."

0:45:250:45:27

-Um, it dissolves things.

-Specifically?

0:45:300:45:33

Stuff.

0:45:330:45:35

-Lead.

-No, completely wrong.

0:45:360:45:39

Your finger on the buzzer.

0:45:390:45:41

It's an iconic moment.

0:45:410:45:43

You know if you get it wrong, you interrupt

0:45:430:45:47

there's penalty points and you feel the responsibility for the whole team.

0:45:470:45:50

So the first time you do it, your heart is really, really beating.

0:45:500:45:53

Television, Kearney.

0:45:530:45:56

Michael Howard and Britney Spears.

0:45:560:45:58

Correct, yes.

0:45:580:46:00

When we appeared on the show, both Francis and Marcus and I agreed

0:46:000:46:05

it was probably the most nervous we'd been about doing anything

0:46:050:46:08

in our whole media careers, and I've done a fair amount of television,

0:46:080:46:12

but going on University Challenge and looking a complete idiot, which is perfectly possible,

0:46:120:46:18

was a very scary thought.

0:46:180:46:19

I was terrified that I wouldn't get something right about modern politics.

0:46:190:46:23

I remember the very long drive up to Manchester.

0:46:230:46:26

The thing I swotted up on was every single member of the Cabinet.

0:46:260:46:29

The Shadow Cabinet and things I sort of knew but just imagined

0:46:290:46:33

under the lights not knowing who the shadow home secretary was.

0:46:330:46:36

-That would be very humiliating.

-Here's another starter question.

0:46:360:46:39

Nicknamed Taximan for his habit of driving an old London cab, which MP was elected President...

0:46:390:46:46

-Television Kearney.

-Simon Hughes.

0:46:460:46:48

I should hope so too, yes.

0:46:480:46:51

Pleasure comes when something which is

0:46:510:46:55

obscure, and as the question is rolling out, you really have no idea what the answer is, as it comes

0:46:550:47:02

to the end they've just thrown in some tiny clue.

0:47:020:47:06

A further inspiration to De Cooper town was a visit to the Olympic Games held annually since 1849

0:47:060:47:12

in which Shropshire town situated to the north east of a limestone ridge that bears the same name?

0:47:120:47:16

I think...

0:47:190:47:22

What's that ridge called?

0:47:220:47:23

It's...

0:47:230:47:25

- Wenlock. - Wenlock.

0:47:250:47:28

It is, Much Wenlock is right.

0:47:280:47:29

It's like playing tennis.

0:47:290:47:31

You achieve a return that you didn't think you are capable of.

0:47:310:47:35

Afterwards, you had people coming up going, "I'm very surprised

0:47:350:47:39

"that you didn't know the answer to such and such."

0:47:390:47:42

-Television, Kearney.

-The Go-between.

0:47:420:47:45

-No.

-You think, "Oh, yes, I am sorry, I should have known that."

0:47:450:47:50

It was fun. I'd willingly do it again.

0:47:500:47:54

From humble beginnings in Manchester to a star

0:47:580:48:01

of the silver screen, University Challenge has now been immortalised in the film Starter For Ten.

0:48:010:48:07

The idea for Starter For Ten came from just sitting on the sofa, watching the show

0:48:070:48:14

and idly speculating about the relationship between the team members.

0:48:140:48:19

When I was given the film script which featured University Challenge

0:48:190:48:22

as the climax of the movie, I thought it would be a fantastic

0:48:220:48:25

opportunity to give University Challenge the Hollywood treatment and have a lot of fun with it.

0:48:250:48:30

I've got an announcement to make.

0:48:300:48:32

What's that then?

0:48:320:48:35

- It's just something that happened last term. - Oh, God, Brian.

0:48:350:48:39

- Mum, don't worry, it's a good thing. - Tell me then.

0:48:390:48:42

I'm going to be on University Challenge.

0:48:440:48:47

What? That thing on the telly?

0:48:490:48:51

Yeah.

0:48:510:48:53

Congratulations, Brian, that's brilliant news.

0:48:530:48:56

Cheers.

0:48:560:48:57

Oh, God, what a relief.

0:48:570:48:59

Why?

0:48:590:49:01

To be honest, Brian, I thought you are going to say you were gay.

0:49:010:49:05

I am James McAvoy and I am Brian Jackson in Starter For Ten.

0:49:080:49:13

He's 18 years-old, even though I'm not, and he has

0:49:130:49:18

just started university and it's the biggest thing in his life because all he ever wanted to do was learn.

0:49:180:49:24

In a weird way, kind of show off the fact he has learnt so much,

0:49:240:49:31

so a game show like University Challenge is the perfect medium.

0:49:310:49:37

- Jackson, Bristol. - Electro-luminescence.

0:49:370:49:40

Candour luminescence.

0:49:420:49:44

Luminescence?

0:49:480:49:50

Phosphorescence?

0:49:500:49:51

Come on.

0:49:530:49:55

- Incandescence. - All correct. Names of...

0:49:550:49:57

I play Patrick Watts, the captain of the Bristol University Challenge team.

0:49:590:50:04

-It's a form or fungal infection.

-Is the correct answer.

0:50:040:50:07

And I think, fundamentally what appeals to him about University

0:50:070:50:12

Challenge is the idea of controlled knowledge and being able to show it off in a very identifiable way.

0:50:120:50:19

In order to qualify you'll need to answer 30 questions in 30 minutes

0:50:190:50:22

and the top three scores join me, the captain, in this year's team.

0:50:220:50:28

I have some lively little questions, so I think you're in for a pretty good time.

0:50:280:50:31

But it is against the clock so, people, if you're ready, let's quiz!

0:50:310:50:37

When it came to putting University Challenge on the movie screen, one of

0:50:370:50:43

the biggest challenges was who was going to play Bamber Gascoigne?

0:50:430:50:46

It was a very intriguing idea and then immediately quite daunting because of his iconic status.

0:50:460:50:52

There still may be time to catch up.

0:50:520:50:54

Here's a starter question for ten.

0:50:540:50:56

Everybody has an idea

0:50:560:50:58

of how he speaks and his whole persona based on their childhood memories,

0:50:580:51:04

so it immediately went from being a,

0:51:040:51:07

"Whoopee," idea to, "Oh, God, how am I going to do this?"

0:51:070:51:12

The Oresteia by Aeschylus.

0:51:120:51:14

- Correct. - Euclidian algorithm.

0:51:140:51:16

-The Euclidian algorithm?

-Correct.

0:51:160:51:19

Honni soit qui mal y pense?

0:51:190:51:21

Correct answer.

0:51:210:51:23

I remember sitting in the chair in the wig and the glasses and being

0:51:230:51:27

quite frightened by how much I looked like him.

0:51:270:51:30

It just sort of seems to fit once you're in front of that incredibly green,

0:51:300:51:35

grim set.

0:51:350:51:37

Everything seems to slot into place.

0:51:370:51:39

I could taste Sunday dinner again from being on the set, it reminded me of when I used to watch it.

0:51:390:51:46

It was always very important for us to get the actual show right.

0:51:460:51:50

Right from the beginning we consulted with the current production team so that

0:51:500:51:55

they read all our questions and were extremely helpful, so

0:51:550:51:58

they would come back to us and say, "Actually, that's a little bit easy for a starter question."

0:51:580:52:03

Derived from the Greek words for wing and finger, what is the genus...?

0:52:030:52:06

-Jackson, Bristol.

-Pterodactyl.

0:52:060:52:09

-Is correct.

-Down to details like making sure we had the captain sitting third from the left.

0:52:090:52:15

-Everything had to be right, really.

-Correct.

0:52:150:52:18

It's a real eye-opener being on the panel and in front of the cameras as opposed to watching it at home.

0:52:180:52:24

You really get a sense of how pressured you must feel.

0:52:240:52:28

We're stupid actors with the right answers to say or get wrong.

0:52:280:52:31

There's a real studio pressure - bright lights, the audience, the expectation.

0:52:310:52:35

I remember by a bizarre coincidence, just around the back of the set there was a white cat,

0:52:350:52:43

a toy cat.

0:52:430:52:46

I immediately got it and just sat there like that, stroking it, because

0:52:460:52:49

I felt I was like master of all I surveyed.

0:52:490:52:53

It's not a usual subject for a feature film.

0:52:530:52:56

There's no tradition of college movies in the UK.

0:52:560:53:00

I think it's because generally speaking people dislike

0:53:000:53:04

students, especially once you stop being a student you develop a kind of, "Oh, bloody students!" attitude.

0:53:040:53:10

So I never imagined it

0:53:100:53:13

as a feature film. But now I watch it, I'm incredibly proud of it.

0:53:130:53:18

Let's quiz.

0:53:180:53:20

# Looking back on my life you know that all I see are things I could have changed,

0:53:200:53:26

# I should have done... #

0:53:260:53:29

Since 1962, University Challenge has charted the fortunes of the student.

0:53:290:53:34

From grant to debt, from demos to raves, from sociology to media studies,

0:53:340:53:39

all have been united by a starter for ten.

0:53:390:53:42

Students in those days, I know it's looking back through pink

0:53:450:53:48

coloured spectacles, but I think we were more politically engaged.

0:53:480:53:52

It was a brave new world for us.

0:53:520:53:55

For students today, university is taken for granted.

0:53:550:53:59

Of course it wasn't. None of my family had ever been to university.

0:53:590:54:02

My parents had virtually no idea what a university was or what I did there.

0:54:020:54:08

And they're just so sweet these days, just poppety.

0:54:080:54:11

They're not angry about politics, which is maybe a pity, maybe they should be.

0:54:110:54:15

What strikes me is that in the '80s,

0:54:190:54:23

probably the early '90s as well, people were less confident.

0:54:230:54:26

Now, you get someone going on University Challenge,

0:54:260:54:29

they're all sitting like this. "Yeah, yeah, yeah."

0:54:290:54:31

Hi, I'm Adam McCartney from Hook in Hampshire and I'm reading for a Masters in Scriptwriting.

0:54:310:54:36

Whereas in the '85 final, it was very much, "I'm Brian Jackson and I'm

0:54:360:54:43

"from Gloucestershire and I'm reading Engineering."

0:54:430:54:46

Alan Frith from Watford studying History.

0:54:480:54:50

They were mortified to be on television,

0:54:500:54:53

which is brilliant because we live in a different age now.

0:54:530:54:55

In the Bamber Gascoigne years, part of its pleasure and charm

0:54:550:55:00

was a fusty academic image.

0:55:000:55:03

Alexander Fyjis-Walker from Notting Hill reading English.

0:55:030:55:06

Steve Cooter from Brighton in Sussex reading Interdisciplinary Human Studies.

0:55:060:55:09

And now it seems like that

0:55:120:55:15

there's no stigma attached to appearing on University Challenge.

0:55:150:55:19

Weirdly, like footballers, students are suddenly really beautiful. When did that happen?

0:55:190:55:25

Now in its 40s and the show is a strong as ever.

0:55:260:55:30

Today's contestants might be tomorrow's world leaders.

0:55:300:55:33

And through the decades, the format has remained the same.

0:55:330:55:37

Untouched by fashion, a chance for each generation to test itself against the last...

0:55:370:55:42

and the next.

0:55:420:55:44

No, not in my hair.

0:55:440:55:47

It's very simple, it's very fair, everybody's under the same pressure,

0:55:470:55:53

and it's a test of knowledge

0:55:530:55:56

without any violence.

0:55:560:55:58

There was quite a bit of excitement at my hall.

0:56:000:56:02

Lots of people heard about it.

0:56:020:56:04

Since the return of University Challenge, Britain has exploded with a million quiz nights.

0:56:040:56:10

It's become a rather common thing for people to be a member of a quiz team.

0:56:100:56:14

Somehow, University Challenge managed to avoid its questions being trivia questions.

0:56:140:56:18

They somehow come from a place that is more related still to the idea of learning. That's a very good thing.

0:56:180:56:24

Big, big welcome for Oxford!

0:56:240:56:28

Although some of the questions and answers may still be highly specialised and not

0:56:330:56:37

relate to day-to-day living, it's far more important to remember who was president of Uganda

0:56:370:56:43

in the '70s, for example,

0:56:430:56:46

than Jade's bra size or how old is Hugh Grant?

0:56:460:56:50

Welcome for Manchester University!

0:56:500:56:52

It's against the zeitgeist which is always a good idea.

0:56:550:56:59

I think it's still there as an outpost of cleverness that celebrates people knowing things.

0:56:590:57:05

Sometimes as a country, we're quite anti-intellectual.

0:57:050:57:10

I think University Challenge celebrates intelligence in a way that very few programmes do.

0:57:100:57:16

It's an achievement to know so much, to have such an eclectic range of knowledge.

0:57:160:57:22

I think it's probably that that makes it so special.

0:57:220:57:25

If you could manage to get a few amongst all that stuff about electro

0:57:250:57:30

magnets and stuff, you really feel proud of yourself.

0:57:300:57:34

There are very few real groupings of people that have both brilliance and

0:57:340:57:40

an aggressive attitude to each other to compare to university students.

0:57:400:57:43

You know what automatically you're going to get good people.

0:57:430:57:47

You've got all the ingredients of a really good contest.

0:57:470:57:50

The fact that so often it can be very close makes it irresistible.

0:57:500:57:56

It is to show to young people that the sort of people who go to university

0:57:580:58:05

are no different to them.

0:58:050:58:07

It's rather wonderful to see them when they do well and they know amazing things.

0:58:070:58:12

That's the fascination of it.

0:58:120:58:14

-It's about learning.

-Counting to titles.

0:58:140:58:18

Going to titles in five, four, three, two, one.

0:58:180:58:22

-Bye!

-Goodbye.

-Nazdar!

0:58:260:58:29

Goodbye!

0:58:290:58:30

-Bye!

-Goodbye.

0:58:310:58:33

Goodbye.

0:58:330:58:34

-Goodbye.

-Bye-bye.

0:58:350:58:37

-Goodbye.

-Goodbye.

-Goodbye.

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Goodbye.

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Bye.

0:58:420:58:44

-Good night.

-Goodbye.

0:58:450:58:47

And it's goodbye from me. Goodbye.

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