Geraint Jarman

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-# Bourgeois rock	0:00:04	0:00:06
-# Ooh, ooh	0:00:08	0:00:10
-# Bourgeois rock #	0:00:11	0:00:12
-Bourgeois rock!	0:00:13	0:00:15
-Yeah.	0:00:19	0:00:21
-I'll keep playing -with the monitoring.	0:00:23	0:00:25
-GERAINT JARMAN -ONE OF WALES' -MOST - -CONS	0:00:26	0:00:30
-INTERVIEWS WITH GERAINT ARE RARE	0:00:30	0:00:34
-# It's neat, it's neat, it's neat	0:00:34	0:00:36
-# I really love your tiger feet	0:00:36	0:00:39
-# Your tiger feet, joop! #	0:00:40	0:00:42
-SINCE 1976 HE'S EXPERIMENTED -WITH VARIOUS MUSICAL STYLES	0:00:44	0:00:47
-IN 2014 HE WAS MAKING -HIS FIFTEENTH ALBUM	0:00:48	0:00:52
-I still write every day.	0:00:55	0:00:57
-I can gauge how I am mentally, -psychologically and so on.	0:00:57	0:01:02
-If I continue playing guitar -and writing...	0:01:02	0:01:06
-..on a daily basis...	0:01:06	0:01:09
-..I'm at peace with the world.	0:01:09	0:01:12
-It's the one thing in my life -I haven't got fed up of...	0:01:15	0:01:20
-..at all.	0:01:20	0:01:22
-Later, one of the giants of the -Welsh music scene will be here...	0:01:38	0:01:42
-..to talk about his latest album, -Dwyn Yr Hogyn Nol.	0:01:42	0:01:46
-This is Geraint Jarman's 15th album -since 1976's Gobaith Mawr Y Ganrif.	0:01:46	0:01:51
-He's still as relevant today -as he was back then.	0:01:51	0:01:55
-Looking forward to that. Here's -a song from the brilliant new album.	0:01:55	0:02:00
-# Salamander sandwich spread #	0:02:03	0:02:07
-People remember you -for songs such as...	0:02:07	0:02:12
-..Ethiopia Newydd, Gwesty Cymru...	0:02:12	0:02:16
-..Tacsi I'r Tywyllwch -and stuff like this.	0:02:17	0:02:20
-Sometimes people are surprised -when they meet you...	0:02:23	0:02:27
-..because you're not the person -they expect you to be.	0:02:27	0:02:31
-This is the first -album review I've ever had...	0:02:35	0:02:39
-..in a British newspaper.	0:02:39	0:02:42
-It says here...	0:02:42	0:02:45
-"The Clough stage is a hotspot -for Welsh-language bands...	0:02:45	0:02:49
-"..where Jarman shows why he's a -legend of a scene he helped create.	0:02:49	0:02:54
-"At 64, he remains -a jerky, wiry performer...	0:02:54	0:03:00
-"..with an excellent band, mixing -overdriven rock guitars, reggae...	0:03:00	0:03:05
-"..and tuneful punk snarl.	0:03:05	0:03:08
-"When he equates -Ethiopia and Cymru...	0:03:08	0:03:11
-"..you don't need to speak -his language to know how he feels."	0:03:11	0:03:16
-That's good, isn't it? He's done -his homework. He knows how old I am.	0:03:16	0:03:21
-Great!	0:03:21	0:03:23
-Right up.	0:03:51	0:03:53
-Right up. - -And the mono...	0:03:53	0:03:55
-Oh, wow.	0:03:55	0:03:57
-Oh, wow. - -And then both.	0:03:57	0:03:58
-Wow. How poignant!	0:04:08	0:04:10
-But also kind of shit -at the same time.	0:04:11	0:04:14
-I like it. Alright.	0:04:18	0:04:19
-Here we go.	0:04:19	0:04:21
-I've been working on this album -for two and a half years.	0:04:24	0:04:28
-It's entitled Dwyn Yr Hogyn Nol -(Bring The Boy Back).	0:04:28	0:04:32
-# Watch Jericho's walls	0:04:34	0:04:36
-# They're tumbling down	0:04:37	0:04:39
-# In the gentle breeze	0:04:39	0:04:43
-# Oh, I want to bring the boy back	0:04:43	0:04:46
-# Bring the boy back home	0:04:46	0:04:49
-# I want to bring the boy back	0:04:53	0:04:55
-# Bring the boy back home #	0:04:55	0:04:59
-I'm currently writing a book -about my childhood...	0:05:05	0:05:11
-..in Riverside.	0:05:11	0:05:14
-The working title -is The Coldstream and the Terrace.	0:05:17	0:05:20
-It's about a boy growing up here -in Cardiff in the '50s and '60s.	0:05:21	0:05:26
-When I was a child, we had a gang.	0:05:27	0:05:30
-There were five of us. -We'd have sugar sandwiches and pop.	0:05:30	0:05:35
-We'd go out to play along Mark -Street and up towards the river.	0:05:35	0:05:40
-Up there, right at the top...	0:05:40	0:05:44
-I have to explain this.	0:05:44	0:05:46
-The Glamorgan Cricket team played -on the other side of the river.	0:05:47	0:05:53
-We'd watch the games -through binoculars...	0:05:53	0:05:57
-..from a distance.	0:05:57	0:05:59
-We could see the crease -and the scoreboard.	0:05:59	0:06:02
-I used to play football here - -we'd kick a ball against the wall...	0:06:02	0:06:07
-..until the guy indoors got -so fed up of us, we'd have to move.	0:06:07	0:06:11
-It still feels odd coming down here.	0:06:14	0:06:17
-There was a time -when I couldn't come at all.	0:06:17	0:06:21
-When I left here, -about a month later...	0:06:21	0:06:26
-..my best friend, David Reid, died.	0:06:27	0:06:30
-He was going to school...	0:06:30	0:06:33
-I'm going to stop here now...	0:06:33	0:06:35
-..because this used to be our house, -35 Brook Street.	0:06:35	0:06:39
-It looks a bit odd now...	0:06:39	0:06:43
-..but David was killed -whilst cycling to school.	0:06:44	0:06:47
-A lorry reversed into him.	0:06:48	0:06:50
-We'd just left the house.	0:06:51	0:06:53
-I remember going to the funeral.	0:06:53	0:06:56
-The coffin was very small.	0:06:57	0:06:59
-I cried a lot.	0:07:01	0:07:03
-I didn't understand what was -going on in terms of my emotions.	0:07:03	0:07:08
-I couldn't come here after that.	0:07:08	0:07:11
-It was as if that time in my life -had been buried with David.	0:07:11	0:07:17
-I couldn't rationalise it at all.	0:07:20	0:07:23
-I didn't like school.	0:07:35	0:07:38
-I played truant a lot.	0:07:38	0:07:40
-I liked being a naughty boy.	0:07:40	0:07:43
-I had an attitude problem.	0:07:45	0:07:47
-I had nothing against the teachers, -it was just a problem of mine.	0:07:51	0:07:55
-Writing poetry -was a creative outlet.	0:07:55	0:08:00
-We're about to record...	0:08:10	0:08:12
-..a song called Be Nei Di, Janis? -(What Will You Do, Janis?)	0:08:13	0:08:16
-I knew Janis when I was 14.	0:08:18	0:08:21
-She came from Pwllheli.	0:08:21	0:08:23
-We were good friends.	0:08:29	0:08:31
-We had lots of fun.	0:08:31	0:08:35
-Life was full of sunshine back then.	0:08:35	0:08:38
-# And I still see the light	0:08:38	0:08:41
-# In the sky, the two of us -in the big, wide world	0:08:42	0:08:47
-# Walking up Mount Snowdon -and running down	0:08:47	0:08:52
-# And a choir of her friends shout	0:08:52	0:08:55
-# What will you do, Janis?	0:08:56	0:08:58
-# Tell me, what will you do, Janis?	0:08:58	0:09:00
-# Hey, now #	0:09:03	0:09:05
-That's just after that...	0:09:19	0:09:21
-..you could drop me in, da-da-da.	0:09:22	0:09:24
-Yes, that's the cue. -After da-da-da-da-dum.	0:09:24	0:09:28
-# Hey, now she's so pretty	0:09:29	0:09:32
-# I thought I'd write like a poet	0:09:32	0:09:36
-# While searching -for the perfect metaphor	0:09:37	0:09:41
-# For my life	0:09:41	0:09:42
-# It's half past two -and something's wrong	0:09:43	0:09:46
-# Do you know what, -she turns and walks away... #	0:09:46	0:09:50
-Myself and David R Edwards -of Datblygu were talking about...	0:09:53	0:09:57
-..writing lyrics and reading them.	0:09:57	0:09:59
-So I'm kind of in trepidation -but I'm looking forward to it.	0:09:59	0:10:03
-I wish I was just here -eating the lobster.	0:10:03	0:10:07
-Are you still in pain?	0:10:10	0:10:12
-It's OK. I still have back pain -but it's not nerve pain.	0:10:12	0:10:18
-So...?	0:10:18	0:10:20
-It was down here in the lumbar.	0:10:20	0:10:24
-The lumbar region.	0:10:24	0:10:26
-Sometimes -I'd have to take liquid morphine.	0:10:26	0:10:29
-But it used to really space me out!	0:10:29	0:10:32
-I'm playing Can i Gymry -before David comes on.	0:10:34	0:10:37
-Are you happy for me to play -one of your tracks over the PA...	0:10:37	0:10:41
-..before you come on?	0:10:41	0:10:43
-I have your box set, -so every song is an option.	0:10:43	0:10:47
-What about I've Arrived?	0:10:47	0:10:49
-No, not that one.	0:10:49	0:10:50
-No, not that one. - -Too bloody obvious!	0:10:50	0:10:53
-Can I just play...? -What about Gwesty Cymru?	0:10:53	0:10:56
-Yes, OK. Just a bit of it.	0:10:56	0:10:59
-I'll read -either Syd Ar Gitar or Cwd.	0:10:59	0:11:03
-Alright, OK.	0:11:04	0:11:05
-It's a dub poem.	0:11:06	0:11:08
-I'll see how the time goes.	0:11:08	0:11:09
-I'll see how the time goes. - -It'd be great to hear that.	0:11:09	0:11:11
-Right at the end, -I'll light some fireworks.	0:11:11	0:11:14
-I've lived life to the full so far.	0:11:17	0:11:20
-I think you have to enjoy life.	0:11:20	0:11:23
-I've reached the depths -and I've reached the heights...	0:11:23	0:11:27
-..but I'm now on an even keel...	0:11:27	0:11:31
-..with the help -of medication and doctors...	0:11:31	0:11:35
-..but I can be creative again now, -which is a relief.	0:11:35	0:11:38
-I may not be as crazy -as I was when I was young...	0:11:40	0:11:45
-..but I still try to dance on stage.	0:11:45	0:11:48
-You know I play guitar every day.	0:11:48	0:11:52
-I get an idea for a song.	0:11:52	0:11:55
-I don't like being without it.	0:11:56	0:11:58
-I like the Geraint who does that.	0:11:58	0:12:02
-Exactly.	0:12:02	0:12:04
-It's not quite like a job, -it's more than that.	0:12:04	0:12:07
-It's part of you, -and that's the thing.	0:12:08	0:12:11
-APPLAUSE	0:12:11	0:12:13
-You say in the book that -writing songs can be frustrating...	0:12:13	0:12:18
-..compared to writing poetry.	0:12:18	0:12:23
-You don't want to put -too many complex things in a song...	0:12:23	0:12:29
-..because it's instantly targeted -at the audience.	0:12:29	0:12:34
-You can see if people like it.	0:12:34	0:12:38
-Over time, -I've learned how to do that.	0:12:38	0:12:42
-But I also believe...	0:12:43	0:12:46
-..the subject matter -is what's important.	0:12:49	0:12:53
-"A ghetto with make-up, -it's easy to see the pain	0:12:54	0:12:57
-"It's written -on the bay's surface and tongue	0:12:58	0:13:00
-"Running from the dykes -and the toilet seats	0:13:00	0:13:03
-"Running from the traffic -and the dog in the field	0:13:03	0:13:06
-"A ghetto with make-up, -it's easy to see the pain	0:13:06	0:13:09
-"Remembering the bloodshed -and the knives of the enslaved	0:13:09	0:13:13
-"Reminiscing about history -and days of yore	0:13:13	0:13:16
-"Remembering the departure -like a bow and arrow	0:13:16	0:13:19
-"The attention of the tuneful -and the words of the greedy	0:13:19	0:13:22
-"The kiss of Madonna -in her red lipstick	0:13:23	0:13:26
-"China's bronze melody -expressing the words	0:13:27	0:13:30
-"The beat of the Amun, -like a kiss on the cheek."	0:13:30	0:13:34
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-# Tacsi I'r Tywyllwch #	0:13:52	0:13:54
-# I have to stand on my own two feet	0:14:04	0:14:07
-# It's better than being underhanded	0:14:08	0:14:11
-# Through the fat and thin, -keeping resolutions	0:14:11	0:14:14
-# Everyone's on his own heap	0:14:15	0:14:17
-# Ah-ah-ah	0:14:20	0:14:24
-# La-la-la-la-la-la	0:14:25	0:14:27
-# Ah-ah-ah	0:14:28	0:14:32
-# A taxi to the darkness	0:14:34	0:14:36
-# A taxi to the darkness	0:14:38	0:14:40
-# A taxi to the darkness #	0:14:41	0:14:43
-My song writing developed after -I gave up writing poetry, in a way.	0:14:46	0:14:51
-It more or less replaced the poetry.	0:14:52	0:14:55
-By now, the performing has become -a natural part of the writing.	0:14:56	0:15:02
-But it wasn't in the beginning.	0:15:04	0:15:06
-Performing wasn't the plan. -I was against it.	0:15:06	0:15:09
-I was afraid of performing.	0:15:09	0:15:11
-ROCK MUSIC	0:15:11	0:15:14
-I think I wore shades -in the beginning...	0:15:25	0:15:29
-..because I didn't want...	0:15:30	0:15:32
-..the audience to see me.	0:15:34	0:15:37
-I think it was because -I was so nervous.	0:15:37	0:15:42
-Many of my heroes, -especially Bob Dylan...	0:15:42	0:15:48
-..wore shades.	0:15:50	0:15:53
-One good thing...	0:15:53	0:15:56
-..about performing years ago...	0:15:56	0:15:59
-..was that -I'd dance all over the place...	0:15:59	0:16:03
-..and wear myself out.	0:16:03	0:16:05
-So what I'd do -was stand in front of the mic...	0:16:05	0:16:09
-..and sing the songs without moving.	0:16:09	0:16:11
-Sometimes I'd close my eyes -and no-one would see me.	0:16:12	0:16:16
-I'd sing -and relax the rest of the time.	0:16:16	0:16:20
-It was great...	0:16:21	0:16:24
-..because no-one -could see me snoozing.	0:16:24	0:16:27
-I wasn't sleeping, -I was merely conserving my energy.	0:16:27	0:16:31
-When reggae started...	0:16:41	0:16:43
-..all these albums -were being released.	0:16:43	0:16:47
-Wow! There was a real spark there.	0:16:47	0:16:50
-Before that, I liked -country and western and rock.	0:16:51	0:16:55
-Bands like Talking Heads and so on.	0:16:56	0:16:58
-But reggae got a real hold of me.	0:16:58	0:17:00
-I was living in Cardiff and I had -friends who lived in the docks.	0:17:01	0:17:06
-It was -all they played at the time too.	0:17:06	0:17:09
-Reggae music is a political medium, -in a sense...	0:17:13	0:17:16
-..because it's music of struggle.	0:17:17	0:17:19
-We just want to play -our vision to it.	0:17:19	0:17:23
-Is that one of the reasons -you just sing in Welsh?	0:17:23	0:17:27
-Yes.	0:17:27	0:17:29
-It would be not worthwhile -for me to sing in English...	0:17:29	0:17:33
-..because my message is -all tied in with my own culture...	0:17:33	0:17:38
-..and it can only apply -to that culture.	0:17:39	0:17:41
-We got the people show -rolling and rolling...	0:17:42	0:17:44
-..to keep you happy and swinging.	0:17:45	0:17:47
-Right about now I want you -to put your hands together...	0:17:48	0:17:51
-..and welcome on stage Cardiff's own -really Welsh-based band called...	0:17:52	0:17:58
-..Geraint Jarman, let's hear it.	0:17:58	0:18:00
-Boom!	0:18:02	0:18:04
-# Watch out, the world is calling	0:18:20	0:18:23
-# Blood on bodies of the slaves #	0:18:23	0:18:26
-It's the music of objectors, -in a way, you know.	0:18:28	0:18:31
-It talks about social conditions -and things like that.	0:18:34	0:18:38
-Mistreatment and things like this.	0:18:38	0:18:42
-Not being accepted.	0:18:42	0:18:44
-They completely understood -the Welsh language's situation.	0:18:44	0:18:48
-They could see...	0:18:48	0:18:50
-..because back then, -Cardiff wasn't bilingual.	0:18:51	0:18:55
-So they were very comfortable...	0:18:55	0:19:00
-..with the message -I was trying to convey.	0:19:00	0:19:04
-We're here in Mount Stuart Square.	0:19:15	0:19:18
-There used to be -a Welsh chapel over here.	0:19:19	0:19:22
-Over the years, -the place deteriorated...	0:19:24	0:19:27
-..and people started to leave.	0:19:28	0:19:30
-It was turned into a nightclub -called Casablanca in the 1960s.	0:19:30	0:19:35
-The Cynganeddwyr -played here several times.	0:19:38	0:19:42
-It was an important time.	0:19:42	0:19:44
-We used to come here, -even if we weren't performing...	0:19:44	0:19:49
-..for the atmosphere and the reggae.	0:19:50	0:19:52
-I remember writing Ethiopia Newydd.	0:20:07	0:20:10
-I had lots of notebooks.	0:20:12	0:20:14
-I wrote -most of the words at the bus stop...	0:20:14	0:20:19
-..and then on the bus.	0:20:19	0:20:22
-I had to carry these songs with me, -on a journey.	0:20:22	0:20:27
-This is new song.	0:20:34	0:20:36
-# Please, Mr Parsons, -can I call you Gram?	0:20:36	0:20:40
-HE STARTS AD-LIBBING	0:20:41	0:20:45
-# Hi-de-ho...	0:20:45	0:20:49
-# By the sea...	0:20:59	0:21:02
-# Please, Mr Parsons, -can I call you Gram?	0:21:03	0:21:07
-# Yodel-eh-ee	0:21:12	0:21:16
-# Yodel-eh-ee	0:21:16	0:21:20
-# Yodel-eh-ee	0:21:21	0:21:24
-# Hey, moh #	0:21:24	0:21:29
-This is where I work every day.	0:21:29	0:21:31
-I do some amount of work -every night...	0:21:31	0:21:36
-..because everyone goes to bed -and I stay up...	0:21:36	0:21:40
-..until 2.30am or 3.00am.	0:21:41	0:21:43
-But this is where I write.	0:21:43	0:21:45
-This is one of my guitars. -It's a Godin and comes from Canada.	0:21:46	0:21:50
-Peredur ap Gwynedd -chose this guitar for me.	0:21:51	0:21:55
-It's a Godin Acousticaster.	0:21:55	0:21:58
-You can play it acoustically...	0:21:59	0:22:01
-..or you can plug it in...	0:22:02	0:22:05
-..and get different sounds from it.	0:22:05	0:22:07
-But I have three guitars.	0:22:08	0:22:11
-This one, an Epiphone acoustic...	0:22:11	0:22:14
-..and I have -a Walden acoustic guitar too.	0:22:15	0:22:18
-# I was thinking about -something strange	0:22:19	0:22:22
-# I'm the fool	0:22:25	0:22:27
-# I know full well	0:22:27	0:22:30
-# Because I believed your lies	0:22:32	0:22:36
-# I'm the fool	0:22:38	0:22:40
-# I know full well	0:22:40	0:22:42
-# Because you stole	0:22:44	0:22:48
-# My inspiration #	0:22:48	0:22:51
-Excuse my voice.	0:22:51	0:22:54
-Total effing chaos, Geraint Jarman.	0:22:57	0:23:00
-Songs come to me -in many different ways.	0:23:04	0:23:08
-What's strange is that I don't -remember writing these songs.	0:23:09	0:23:14
-It's common -for many songwriters I speak to.	0:23:14	0:23:18
-I don't quite remember...	0:23:18	0:23:21
-..how songs come about.	0:23:22	0:23:24
-Throughout the 1970s...	0:23:25	0:23:27
-..I'd lose songs...	0:23:27	0:23:29
-..because they'd come to me late -at night or at inconvenient times.	0:23:30	0:23:34
-Technology was advancing...	0:23:34	0:23:38
-..and we had a bit of money.	0:23:38	0:23:40
-In the Sony shop, -I came across this.	0:23:40	0:23:44
-I bought it -at the beginning of the '80s.	0:23:45	0:23:48
-I thought, -'That does the job. It's fantastic.'	0:23:48	0:23:51
-You carry it around with you...	0:23:52	0:23:54
-..and it's there -whenever you get an idea.	0:23:54	0:23:57
-The trouble was, whenever I -carried it, ideas never came to me!	0:23:57	0:24:02
-Or I'd left it in the car.	0:24:02	0:24:04
-You know?	0:24:05	0:24:07
-Thank you, Mr Sony.	0:24:07	0:24:09
-It's weird, you may not -make much money out of it...	0:24:15	0:24:19
-..but what you get out of it -is worthwhile.	0:24:20	0:24:24
-I met this woman who said...	0:24:26	0:24:29
-.."I listen to your music -every day," and then walked away.	0:24:29	0:24:34
-Aargh! What do you do?	0:24:34	0:24:37
-I wanted to give her a kiss.	0:24:37	0:24:40
-I said, "That's great. -Thank you very much!"	0:24:40	0:24:44
-Hilarious.	0:24:44	0:24:46
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-The new album's being released soon.	0:25:19	0:25:22
-We've been working on it -for more than two years.	0:25:22	0:25:27
-The new band - -Peredur, Pete Hurley...	0:25:28	0:25:31
-..Tim on the drums...	0:25:31	0:25:34
-..and Frank on the keyboards...	0:25:34	0:25:36
-..are very different -from the Cynganeddwyr.	0:25:36	0:25:40
-They produce -a different sound, naturally.	0:25:41	0:25:44
-Peredur's led the way. -He's made a huge contribution.	0:25:45	0:25:49
-But every member of the new band -are incredible musicians.	0:25:50	0:25:56
-There was one of them -I just couldn't work out.	0:25:58	0:26:01
-The one -with the crazy notes at the end.	0:26:01	0:26:04
-They're just random notes.	0:26:06	0:26:08
-You can do what you like. -Just make a racket.	0:26:08	0:26:11
-I was having real problems -getting the chords.	0:26:12	0:26:15
-After that, it's kind of strange.	0:26:15	0:26:17
-All the others, -I think I'm alright with.	0:26:20	0:26:23
-Do you know, -I miss the sound of the drums.	0:26:26	0:26:28
-Could do. -That sort of snare drummy thing.	0:26:29	0:26:32
-DRUMBEAT	0:26:32	0:26:34
-I married young. -I was about 19 years of age.	0:26:41	0:26:44
-I became a father at 19 too.	0:26:44	0:26:48
-I had to be responsible, -and I was a very responsible person.	0:26:50	0:26:55
-Heather and I -tend to write songs on our own.	0:26:55	0:27:00
-Heather writes songs -like Gwrando Ar Fy Nghan.	0:27:00	0:27:05
-I went to -the College of Music and Drama...	0:27:05	0:27:08
-..but I also had to -pay the mortgage and buy food.	0:27:08	0:27:15
-I was strait-laced...	0:27:15	0:27:17
-..for a long time.	0:27:18	0:27:20
-I've been lucky because I've had -a second chance in life.	0:27:29	0:27:33
-A lot of people -don't have a second chance.	0:27:33	0:27:37
-I had second a chance -to meet someone.	0:27:37	0:27:40
-There was a gap -of almost five years...	0:27:44	0:27:47
-..when you could say I was wild.	0:27:48	0:27:53
-I was homeless for a long while too.	0:27:56	0:27:59
-I knew -if I continued along that path...	0:27:59	0:28:04
-..I'd dead by the time I was 30.	0:28:04	0:28:07
-Life has been good to me...	0:28:08	0:28:10
-..in that sense.	0:28:11	0:28:13
-I thought I wouldn't make it. -I'm 64 years old now.	0:28:14	0:28:18
-When I'm 64.	0:28:18	0:28:20
-# When I'm 64 #	0:28:20	0:28:22
-I've reached this far...	0:28:22	0:28:26
-..so maybe that's the best thing -that's happened to me.	0:28:26	0:28:30
-Dad's never been an ordinary father.	0:28:31	0:28:34
-He doesn't drive, he doesn't do DIY.	0:28:34	0:28:37
-He's a friend...	0:28:37	0:28:40
-..and he's someone -you can talk to about things.	0:28:40	0:28:44
-When you'd come home pissed -as a teenager...	0:28:44	0:28:50
-..with your friend...	0:28:50	0:28:51
-..with your friend... - -He'd make you cheese on toast.	0:28:51	0:28:54
-He'd be slightly jealous -he hadn't been out with us!	0:28:54	0:28:58
-He's never been conventional...	0:28:58	0:29:00
-..or fatherly in that sense.	0:29:01	0:29:03
-We've been brought up with music -being played at home all the time.	0:29:04	0:29:08
-Singing has been a big part...	0:29:09	0:29:11
-..of our upbringing.	0:29:12	0:29:14
-It's almost a natural progression...	0:29:15	0:29:18
-..to actually sing with Dad.	0:29:18	0:29:21
-What's good -is the full sound that's created.	0:29:24	0:29:28
-There are harmonies -and all kinds of pretty things.	0:29:30	0:29:35
-It's great because you look over -and there they are!	0:29:36	0:29:41
-That's quite nice.	0:29:41	0:29:43
-This is still not right.	0:29:43	0:29:46
-It's not.	0:29:46	0:29:48
-# The world is closed #	0:29:50	0:29:52
-I thought it was, 'Mae y byd' -because 'mae'r' is one syllable.	0:29:52	0:29:57
-It's 'mae y,' is it?	0:29:57	0:29:58
-It's 'mae y,' is it? - -'Mae y byd,' yeah.	0:29:58	0:30:00
-# The world is closed #	0:30:01	0:30:02
-If my wife saw me putting teabags...	0:30:03	0:30:08
-..into every cup, -she'd go mad with me.	0:30:08	0:30:12
-"What a waste!"	0:30:12	0:30:15
-I'm a person who puts -water in first and then the milk.	0:30:15	0:30:21
-My wife's a person -who puts milk in first.	0:30:21	0:30:27
-It takes all sorts.	0:30:28	0:30:30
-# You co-exist, you co-exist	0:30:34	0:30:36
-# With your neighbours	0:30:37	0:30:39
-# With your sensible neighbours	0:30:39	0:30:41
-# Free life, free life	0:30:41	0:30:44
-# Live a free life	0:30:45	0:30:47
-# Aah-aah, aah-aah-aah-aah	0:30:47	0:30:49
-# Aah	0:30:50	0:30:51
-# Reggae Reggae #	0:30:51	0:30:56
-The solo stops there as well.	0:30:58	0:31:01
-This is the correct page.	0:31:02	0:31:05
-In the past...	0:31:11	0:31:14
-..I've had a hard time of it -when I've been by myself.	0:31:14	0:31:17
-I almost get to the point -that I hate the songs...	0:31:17	0:31:21
-..because they've been overworked.	0:31:22	0:31:25
-# It's impossible to try to reason #	0:31:28	0:31:32
-The truth is, -the things you worry about...	0:31:33	0:31:38
-..are so minor...	0:31:38	0:31:40
-..and years later when you're -listening to one of your songs...	0:31:40	0:31:45
-..it sounds great.	0:31:45	0:31:47
-So perhaps all that worrying -has been in vain.	0:31:48	0:31:52
-But the process and the experience -wouldn't be the same...	0:31:53	0:31:57
-..if I didn't -have something to worry about.	0:31:58	0:32:02
-On the whole, -I'm very pleased with this album.	0:32:03	0:32:07
-Is it just you going in to talk?	0:32:08	0:32:10
-Yes, -they're just doing a film about...	0:32:10	0:32:14
-..what I'm doing and stuff.	0:32:14	0:32:16
-HE HUMS	0:32:29	0:32:31
-The girls have made -a big difference to this album.	0:32:44	0:32:50
-They've earnt -their rightful place on the album.	0:32:50	0:32:55
-I can't thank you enough -for being on the show...	0:32:56	0:32:59
-..and introducing us -to four songs from the new album.	0:32:59	0:33:04
-Good luck with the new album -and thanks a million once again.	0:33:04	0:33:08
-Thank you and Gareth too.	0:33:08	0:33:10
-Thank you, Geraint Jarman.	0:33:11	0:33:12
-Thank you, Geraint Jarman. - -Bye. Ta-ta.	0:33:12	0:33:14
-It's a lot to do -with liking yourself...	0:33:20	0:33:25
-..and liking the world...	0:33:25	0:33:27
-..in a way...	0:33:28	0:33:30
-..because a lot of creative people -have problems...	0:33:30	0:33:33
-..and they tend to spend -long periods of time alone...	0:33:34	0:33:37
-..and things like that, you know.	0:33:38	0:33:40
-When I used to suffer -with depression years ago...	0:33:43	0:33:47
-..half the reason for it -was because...	0:33:47	0:33:50
-..either I wouldn't get out of bed -like Spike Milligan...	0:33:50	0:33:54
-..or I wouldn't do anything...	0:33:55	0:33:58
-..because everything was a waste -and everything was pointless.	0:33:58	0:34:02
-Self-discipline is the key.	0:34:03	0:34:05
-There have been times -during my career...	0:34:21	0:34:25
-..when I've asked a record company -if I can make an album...	0:34:25	0:34:29
-..and they've said, -"No, you're not good enough."	0:34:30	0:34:33
-I also remember one DJ saying, -"This is Geraint Jarman...	0:34:35	0:34:40
-"..when he used to be able -to write songs."	0:34:41	0:34:44
-That's when I wrote the song, -"Hei Mr DJ, you know what's what."	0:34:44	0:34:48
-There are times -when you feel on top of the world...	0:34:52	0:34:57
-..and there are times -when you're low, but that's life.	0:34:58	0:35:01
-I've known this man since he was 15.	0:35:09	0:35:12
-He was in a band called Beganifs. -They were outstanding.	0:35:12	0:35:16
-We did a tour, didn't we?	0:35:16	0:35:18
-I was about 16 at the time -because I lived in Manchester.	0:35:18	0:35:22
-It was crazy, wasn't it?	0:35:22	0:35:24
-All the girls were after him!	0:35:24	0:35:26
-Less than I got now!	0:35:26	0:35:28
-It's going to be a little -unpredictable, this.	0:35:31	0:35:34
-That's lovely, isn't it?	0:35:36	0:35:38
-Beg me to go, though.	0:35:39	0:35:41
-The Clangers!	0:35:41	0:35:43
-Daw-naw-naw. That's the guitar part.	0:35:52	0:35:54
-Oh, the...?	0:35:54	0:35:56
-Sounded good, though.	0:36:04	0:36:06
-OK, moving on.	0:36:06	0:36:08
-Is it Reggae Reggae?	0:36:09	0:36:11
-I didn't drink -until I was in my 30s.	0:36:12	0:36:15
-I didn't like alcohol and -I didn't like drunk people either.	0:36:16	0:36:20
-But smoking was a big deal.	0:36:20	0:36:24
-Often I'd be stoned on stage.	0:36:24	0:36:28
-Rastafarai is my excuse...	0:36:30	0:36:34
-..because -it's part of Rastafarian culture.	0:36:34	0:36:37
-Smoking de spliff, you know.	0:36:37	0:36:40
-The international herb -and things like that.	0:36:41	0:36:45
-To them, it's some sort of chapel -fellowship, a kind of communion.	0:36:46	0:36:52
-I don't take drugs any more.	0:36:57	0:37:01
-It makes gigs more enjoyable.	0:37:01	0:37:05
-I've only even been unhappy...	0:37:10	0:37:13
-..because I've been greedy...	0:37:13	0:37:17
-..and self-destructive.	0:37:17	0:37:20
-It all goes together, -whether you get drunk or take drugs.	0:37:21	0:37:26
-Whatever it is, there's an element -of self-destruct in us all.	0:37:26	0:37:31
-The thing is to survive it -and like yourself a little.	0:37:31	0:37:37
-Happy?	0:37:41	0:37:42
-Happy? - -Yes, cool.	0:37:42	0:37:44
-OK, we'll call it a day.	0:37:44	0:37:46
-Thank you very much, -and thank you for coming.	0:37:46	0:37:50
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-# La, la, la, la	0:37:58	0:38:00
-# A taxi to the darkness	0:38:08	0:38:10
-# A taxi to the darkness	0:38:11	0:38:13
-# A taxi to the darkness #	0:38:15	0:38:16
-Yeah!	0:38:19	0:38:20
-Fabulous!	0:38:23	0:38:25
-I write more songs now than I did -when I was younger. Much more.	0:38:25	0:38:30
-Maybe I have to live a bit more -before I can write more.	0:38:36	0:38:40
-And do something exciting.	0:38:40	0:38:42
-I'm playing at Festival No.6 -before long. That's exciting.	0:38:44	0:38:48
-Hello, pleased to meet you. -How's it going?	0:38:58	0:39:01
-Very well, yeah.	0:39:01	0:39:03
-So, half an hour -or a bit more than half an hour?	0:39:04	0:39:07
-I'm always nervous.	0:39:08	0:39:10
-I thought I'd lose those feelings -as I got older.	0:39:10	0:39:15
-But I can't.	0:39:15	0:39:17
-So what can I do? I can't drink -before the gig or get stoned.	0:39:17	0:39:22
-I'm trying to hold -all these feelings in.	0:39:23	0:39:26
-Once I see people dancing, -I'll be fine.	0:39:26	0:39:29
-CROWD CHEERS	0:39:31	0:39:33
-# Salamander sandwich spread	0:39:43	0:39:46
-# A bangra disco in Birkenhead	0:39:46	0:39:50
-# Swallowing a feast of locusts -and wild honey #	0:39:50	0:39:55
-When you start performing, it's -hard because you're very nervous.	0:39:55	0:39:59
-I still get very nervous.	0:39:59	0:40:01
-# How about a bit of dolcelatte?	0:40:03	0:40:07
-# I don't want to fight, -the world is closed	0:40:08	0:40:12
-# A longing for Kylie #	0:40:12	0:40:15
-Now I'm older, I sing better...	0:40:15	0:40:18
-..because when I started out, -I was nine stone seven.	0:40:18	0:40:22
-And now I'm 12 and a half stone.	0:40:23	0:40:25
-When I was much fitter...	0:40:31	0:40:34
-..I could dance -for a solid hour and a half...	0:40:34	0:40:37
-..and do all kinds of movements.	0:40:38	0:40:41
-But as I've got older, -I can't do that any more.	0:40:41	0:40:45
-But it's important to convey -the sentiment to the audience.	0:40:45	0:40:50
-It's also important -to put them at ease...	0:40:50	0:40:53
-..because they're -the important ones, not you.	0:40:53	0:40:57
-# I don't want to fight, -the world is closed #	0:40:57	0:41:01
-Last year when I played, -I met some Americans...	0:41:20	0:41:25
-..and someone from Birmingham.	0:41:25	0:41:28
-West Brom.	0:41:28	0:41:30
-They went, "Wow, what's this?" -That's a good thing.	0:41:30	0:41:34
-People pass by and they want to -know, "What is this Welsh thing?"	0:41:34	0:41:39
-# The Wales Hotel	0:42:01	0:42:03
-# No-one pays	0:42:05	0:42:07
-# Though everyone buys	0:42:08	0:42:10
-# Over at the Wales Hotel	0:42:12	0:42:14
-# But everyone's fine	0:42:17	0:42:20
-# They live in luxury -and swim in the pool	0:42:20	0:42:23
-# But everyone's fine	0:42:24	0:42:26
-# They dress smartly -to have dinner at night	0:42:27	0:42:31
-# At the Wales Hotel	0:42:33	0:42:35
-# No-one pays	0:42:36	0:42:38
-# Though everyone buys	0:42:39	0:42:41
-# But everyone's fine	0:42:45	0:42:47
-# The entire population -bargains for their place	0:42:47	0:42:51
-# But everyone's fine	0:42:51	0:42:54
-# Over to the disco we'll go, -they'll dance to the harp	0:42:54	0:42:59
-# The Wales Hotel	0:43:00	0:43:03
-# No-one pays	0:43:04	0:43:06
-# Though everyone buys	0:43:07	0:43:09
-# And I saw her	0:43:13	0:43:15
-# Going to her room with a stranger	0:43:15	0:43:19
-# I love her	0:43:19	0:43:22
-# Though she's cruel to me	0:43:22	0:43:29
-# The Wales Hotel #	0:44:06	0:44:08
-I've been lucky -that I've been warmly received.	0:44:11	0:44:16
-I have to say, I've been lucky...	0:44:18	0:44:22
-..because I've had -great musicians working with me.	0:44:22	0:44:27
-There's been an element -to everything I've done...	0:44:30	0:44:33
-..that's been successful.	0:44:34	0:44:36
-I know, -I'm sensible enough to know...	0:44:37	0:44:41
-..when it's time to give it up.	0:44:42	0:44:46
-I'll stop when the time comes.	0:44:46	0:44:48
-I've enjoyed it all.	0:44:49	0:44:52
-I'd be stupid to think I haven't...	0:44:55	0:44:58
-..because I've given it my all.	0:44:58	0:45:01
-And also...	0:45:03	0:45:05
-..it there's enough time left...	0:45:05	0:45:10
-..I want to finish the things I've -started in terms of my writing...	0:45:11	0:45:15
-..and so on.	0:45:16	0:45:18
-What I'd like is the opportunity -to continue recording...	0:45:19	0:45:23
-..because that's the one thing -I've never got fed up of...	0:45:23	0:45:30
-..or writing songs either.	0:45:30	0:45:32
-It's who I am. -I want to continue being creative.	0:45:32	0:45:36
-I keep doing it because...	0:45:51	0:45:53
-..what else would I do...	0:45:54	0:45:56
-..apart from this?	0:45:56	0:45:58
-# I live in a housing estate	0:46:37	0:46:40
-# The buildings close in	0:46:44	0:46:48
-# Like a bracelet on the bay	0:46:48	0:46:52
-# Behold, the lame man	0:46:52	0:46:54
-# And the night is on tenterhooks	0:46:55	0:46:58
-# Crossing the road before long	0:46:59	0:47:02
-# He'll be out in front	0:47:03	0:47:06
-# Oh-oh ambulance	0:47:08	0:47:12
-# Oh-oh ambulance	0:47:15	0:47:20
-# Oh-oh ambulance #	0:47:23	0:47:28
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