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-Why did your parents come to Canada? | 0:00:03 | 0:00:06 | |
-Well, things in Patagonia -looked quite grim. | 0:00:07 | 0:00:11 | |
-Voices from the past. | 0:00:12 | 0:00:14 | |
-Welsh speakers who -left Patagonia in South America... | 0:00:15 | 0:00:19 | |
-..to live in western Canada in 1974. | 0:00:19 | 0:00:22 | |
-What do you remember -about school in Patagonia? | 0:00:24 | 0:00:28 | |
-Everybody looked at -the Argentine flag and said... | 0:00:28 | 0:00:31 | |
-SPEAKS SPANISH | 0:00:32 | 0:00:34 | |
-But perhaps they were -no longer Welsh-speaking Welsh.... | 0:00:35 | 0:00:39 | |
-..but Argentineans -of Welsh descent... | 0:00:39 | 0:00:42 | |
-..because -they left Patagonia in 1902... | 0:00:42 | 0:00:44 | |
-..and emigrated to Canada. | 0:00:45 | 0:00:48 | |
-For my father, he did not want to -stay under the Argentine government. | 0:00:48 | 0:00:53 | |
-The Welsh-speaking Welsh -who had never lived in Wales. | 0:00:53 | 0:00:58 | |
-In 1974, I had the opportunity... | 0:01:10 | 0:01:13 | |
-..to travel all over Canada... | 0:01:13 | 0:01:17 | |
-..and I did 8,000 miles in total... | 0:01:17 | 0:01:19 | |
-..and visited the Welsh community -who lived in Canada. | 0:01:20 | 0:01:23 | |
-It was Glenys James' task to gather -information about the Welsh... | 0:01:24 | 0:01:28 | |
-..who lived in Canada -by recording interviews... | 0:01:28 | 0:01:31 | |
-..with as many of them as possible -for the Museum of Man in Quebec... | 0:01:31 | 0:01:36 | |
-..that was collating data -on all the different nations... | 0:01:36 | 0:01:40 | |
-..who had migrated to Canada. | 0:01:40 | 0:01:42 | |
-I arrived in Saskatchewan... | 0:01:42 | 0:01:44 | |
-..where the largest -Welsh community had settled. | 0:01:45 | 0:01:49 | |
-They had all come from Argentina... | 0:01:49 | 0:01:51 | |
-..in 1902. | 0:01:52 | 0:01:55 | |
-Now then, Mrs Humphreys... | 0:01:55 | 0:01:57 | |
-..you were born in Patagonia. | 0:01:57 | 0:01:59 | |
-Yes, in Llannerch Ddu. | 0:02:00 | 0:02:02 | |
-In which year? | 0:02:02 | 0:02:04 | |
-In which year? - -1883. | 0:02:04 | 0:02:06 | |
-I think my father, for one thing, -didn't like the irrigating. | 0:02:06 | 0:02:10 | |
-He didn't have enough water. | 0:02:10 | 0:02:12 | |
-Mrs Humphreys was a young woman -when she left Patagonia in 1902. | 0:02:14 | 0:02:18 | |
-She lived in Chubut Province, at -the extreme end of the water table. | 0:02:19 | 0:02:23 | |
-Often, there was no water left -in the ditches for their crops. | 0:02:23 | 0:02:28 | |
-Her father -saw no harvest for three years. | 0:02:28 | 0:02:32 | |
-The Argentine government -was keen for the settlers... | 0:02:33 | 0:02:37 | |
-..to become -part of their new country. | 0:02:37 | 0:02:40 | |
-This meant -the end of Welsh-medium education... | 0:02:40 | 0:02:43 | |
-..something that had thrived since -the colony was founded in 1865. | 0:02:44 | 0:02:49 | |
-Each class would stand in a line... | 0:02:53 | 0:02:55 | |
-..and everyone took off their cap... | 0:02:56 | 0:02:58 | |
-..looked at -the Argentine flag and said... | 0:02:58 | 0:03:02 | |
-SPEAKS SPANISH | 0:03:02 | 0:03:04 | |
-The boys, -when they came of age at 18... | 0:03:10 | 0:03:14 | |
-..they enrolled them into the army, -and Father didn't want that. | 0:03:15 | 0:03:19 | |
-He said, "I wouldn't mind if it was -just the British or the Americans... | 0:03:19 | 0:03:23 | |
-"..but not for the Spanish army." | 0:03:24 | 0:03:26 | |
-Margaret Ann Lewis' parents were -part of the largest contingent... | 0:03:26 | 0:03:31 | |
-..to leave Wales for Patagonia. | 0:03:31 | 0:03:33 | |
-More than 400 -sailed on the Vesta in 1886. | 0:03:33 | 0:03:36 | |
-But the Promised Land -was full of disappointment. | 0:03:36 | 0:03:40 | |
-It was an empty promise, in truth. | 0:03:40 | 0:03:42 | |
-Father was one of the first ones -going into the valley... | 0:03:42 | 0:03:46 | |
-..and he was promised -a piece of land that he never got. | 0:03:46 | 0:03:49 | |
-The pilgrims who went to Patagonia -saw themselves as a biblical tribe. | 0:03:51 | 0:03:56 | |
-A tribe of people -scraping a living in the wilderness. | 0:03:57 | 0:04:01 | |
-In 1899, tragedy struck, -like something out of the Bible... | 0:04:01 | 0:04:06 | |
-..as the Chubut River flooded... | 0:04:06 | 0:04:08 | |
-..forcing the Welsh -to flee to the hills. | 0:04:09 | 0:04:12 | |
-Many homes disappeared underwater... | 0:04:12 | 0:04:15 | |
-..and it was years before they -regained fertile soil to grow crops. | 0:04:15 | 0:04:21 | |
-This, above all else, -gave rise to a number of them... | 0:04:21 | 0:04:25 | |
-..leaving South America -for the far north. | 0:04:25 | 0:04:28 | |
-The biggest thing for my father... | 0:04:30 | 0:04:34 | |
-..he didn't want to stay -under the Argentine government. | 0:04:35 | 0:04:39 | |
-He didn't like them. He hadn't -taken Argentine citizenship. | 0:04:39 | 0:04:44 | |
-He remained British throughout. | 0:04:44 | 0:04:47 | |
-There was sadness and unrest -in the colony by 1900. | 0:04:48 | 0:04:53 | |
-Applications were made -to the Westminster government... | 0:04:53 | 0:04:57 | |
-..requesting it to intervene. | 0:04:57 | 0:04:59 | |
-The British government -was ready to listen. | 0:04:59 | 0:05:02 | |
-They wanted the settlers -to return to the Empire... | 0:05:03 | 0:05:07 | |
-..of which Canada was a part. | 0:05:07 | 0:05:10 | |
-Canada had acres -of unpopulated territories... | 0:05:10 | 0:05:13 | |
-..and the Patagonians -wanted fertile soil to farm. | 0:05:13 | 0:05:17 | |
-The British government -was happy to help... | 0:05:17 | 0:05:20 | |
-..offering them -affordable land in Canada... | 0:05:20 | 0:05:23 | |
-..at a time -when so many families were unhappy. | 0:05:23 | 0:05:26 | |
-There's no wonder that 234 of them -agreed to move to Canada. | 0:05:27 | 0:05:31 | |
-Those who wished to leave South -America were offered a ticket... | 0:05:32 | 0:05:37 | |
-..to sail all the way to Liverpool -and then onwards to Quebec... | 0:05:37 | 0:05:41 | |
-..for the price -of five pounds per family. | 0:05:42 | 0:05:45 | |
-It was a bargain for a new life. | 0:05:45 | 0:05:47 | |
-Among the passengers were -John Coslett Thomas and his family. | 0:05:48 | 0:05:52 | |
-The Welsh were so disheartened... | 0:05:54 | 0:05:56 | |
-..that so many of us -were leaving together. | 0:05:57 | 0:06:00 | |
-They accompanied us -to Puerto Madryn... | 0:06:00 | 0:06:03 | |
-..as many adults as passengers. | 0:06:03 | 0:06:05 | |
-And to Trelew before that, -many more of all ages. | 0:06:05 | 0:06:08 | |
-There was much sobbing -as we bid farewell in both places. | 0:06:08 | 0:06:12 | |
-May 14, 1902. | 0:06:13 | 0:06:15 | |
-How did you come, as a family? | 0:06:18 | 0:06:21 | |
-More than 200 of us came together. | 0:06:21 | 0:06:25 | |
-234 families came. | 0:06:25 | 0:06:29 | |
-We were given cheap travel... | 0:06:30 | 0:06:33 | |
-..and didn't have to -go through customs at all. | 0:06:33 | 0:06:37 | |
-All you had to do was label -your belongings, "settlers effects". | 0:06:37 | 0:06:41 | |
-You didn't -have to open a box or anything. | 0:06:41 | 0:06:44 | |
-We boarded the ship -the night before... | 0:06:46 | 0:06:49 | |
-..and on the morning of the 13th -it was my 18th birthday. | 0:06:49 | 0:06:53 | |
-We were leaving Liverpool -on my birthday. | 0:06:53 | 0:06:56 | |
-I remember a five-year-old child -being buried at sea... | 0:07:02 | 0:07:05 | |
-..between Liverpool and Canada. | 0:07:05 | 0:07:08 | |
-I remember the ship's captain -singing in Welsh. | 0:07:08 | 0:07:11 | |
-They sung -Yn y Dyfroedd Mawr a'r Tonnau. | 0:07:11 | 0:07:15 | |
-Hearing these voices is captivating. | 0:07:15 | 0:07:18 | |
-Eyewitnesses to a harsh history... | 0:07:18 | 0:07:21 | |
-..including a sad story -of a child dying at sea. | 0:07:21 | 0:07:24 | |
-These passengers -were part of a colony... | 0:07:24 | 0:07:27 | |
-..and now -they were going to create a new one. | 0:07:28 | 0:07:30 | |
-Filled with both fear and hope... | 0:07:31 | 0:07:33 | |
-..they turned their sights -to a new horizon. | 0:07:33 | 0:07:36 | |
-The future. | 0:07:37 | 0:07:39 | |
-This is what the president -of Winnipeg's Welsh Society... | 0:07:39 | 0:07:43 | |
-..had to say on 25 June 1902. | 0:07:43 | 0:07:47 | |
-"More than -200 of Patagonia's Welsh settlers... | 0:07:47 | 0:07:50 | |
-"..arrived in the city. | 0:07:51 | 0:07:53 | |
-"They looked tired -after their journey. | 0:07:53 | 0:07:56 | |
-"During the long voyage, three -children died and four were born. | 0:07:56 | 0:08:00 | |
-"The men looked good -but the women looked exhausted. | 0:08:01 | 0:08:04 | |
-"They all looked like brave souls, -especially the women." | 0:08:04 | 0:08:08 | |
-And then you boarded the train -to Saltcoats. | 0:08:17 | 0:08:21 | |
-And onwards from Saltcoats, -we travelled 12 miles. | 0:08:21 | 0:08:27 | |
-We lived in tents... | 0:08:27 | 0:08:29 | |
-..for some, oh, five weeks. | 0:08:30 | 0:08:33 | |
-Enough time for people to find farms -and modes of transport. | 0:08:35 | 0:08:40 | |
-Some had oxen, some had horses -and wagons to take them around. | 0:08:40 | 0:08:44 | |
-Each one -went to his own smallholding. | 0:08:47 | 0:08:50 | |
-We must've been there -six weeks or more. | 0:08:50 | 0:08:54 | |
-Nain and Taid Evans -came out in 1902... | 0:08:55 | 0:09:00 | |
-..to Saltcoats, Saskatchewan. | 0:09:01 | 0:09:04 | |
-They lived in tents for -the first summer when they arrived. | 0:09:04 | 0:09:09 | |
-The first winter, -they built their homes from logs. | 0:09:09 | 0:09:14 | |
-Each of the houses -was made out of logs. | 0:09:14 | 0:09:17 | |
-That's how those homesteaders lived -in the early years. | 0:09:18 | 0:09:23 | |
-During winter they had to -clear the snow to get out... | 0:09:23 | 0:09:28 | |
-..because it was -higher than the front door. | 0:09:28 | 0:09:31 | |
-They stood on top of a chair -to get out to feed the animals. | 0:09:31 | 0:09:36 | |
-They had an awful time -the first winter they were there. | 0:09:36 | 0:09:40 | |
-The weather was very different. | 0:09:40 | 0:09:43 | |
-I'm sure it was. | 0:09:43 | 0:09:45 | |
-We hadn't seen snow. | 0:09:45 | 0:09:47 | |
-You'd never seen snow? | 0:09:47 | 0:09:48 | |
-You'd never seen snow? - -Well, just a bit. | 0:09:48 | 0:09:50 | |
-You saw lots -when you arrived in Canada. | 0:09:51 | 0:09:53 | |
-Yes, we saw lots. | 0:09:53 | 0:09:55 | |
-People had a hard time -when they first come out to Canada. | 0:09:58 | 0:10:01 | |
-They weren't prepared -for the severe winters. | 0:10:02 | 0:10:05 | |
-We thought -we were bringing warm coats out... | 0:10:05 | 0:10:08 | |
-..from Patagonia, -but they were summer coats... | 0:10:08 | 0:10:12 | |
-..compared to -the ones they used in Canada. | 0:10:12 | 0:10:15 | |
-Four colonies -had been earmarked for the Welsh. | 0:10:16 | 0:10:19 | |
-Each family -was given 160 acres of land. | 0:10:19 | 0:10:22 | |
-It wasn't very fertile land... | 0:10:22 | 0:10:24 | |
-..and many areas -were too wet to farm. | 0:10:24 | 0:10:28 | |
-These people knew -how to deal with life's trials... | 0:10:28 | 0:10:31 | |
-..having lived in Patagonia, -where the wind was brutal... | 0:10:31 | 0:10:35 | |
-..and the sun scorched the land. | 0:10:36 | 0:10:38 | |
-They needed -every ounce of expertise... | 0:10:38 | 0:10:41 | |
-..to tame -the unfamiliar landscape... | 0:10:41 | 0:10:44 | |
-..to create new homes in Canada. | 0:10:44 | 0:10:46 | |
-The early period was very hard. | 0:10:46 | 0:10:49 | |
-In January 1903, -six months after they arrived... | 0:10:49 | 0:10:52 | |
-..a list was compiled -of those who were most in need. | 0:10:53 | 0:10:56 | |
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-In 1902, 234 adults and children... | 0:11:05 | 0:11:08 | |
-..left Patagonia for Saskatchewan... | 0:11:09 | 0:11:12 | |
-..in Canada... | 0:11:12 | 0:11:14 | |
-..to create -a better life for themselves. | 0:11:15 | 0:11:17 | |
-The Welsh helped each other. | 0:11:18 | 0:11:20 | |
-If someone -was going to buy a cow or a steer... | 0:11:20 | 0:11:25 | |
-..people would go together. | 0:11:25 | 0:11:28 | |
-They were allowed 160 acres, but -in order to fully acquire them... | 0:11:28 | 0:11:34 | |
-..30 acres had to be farmed -within three years. | 0:11:34 | 0:11:38 | |
-They had to live there for -no less than six months of the year. | 0:11:39 | 0:11:42 | |
-If they -didn't plough their farmland... | 0:11:42 | 0:11:45 | |
-..they'd -lose their right to the land. | 0:11:46 | 0:11:48 | |
-John Coslett Thomas again. | 0:11:49 | 0:11:51 | |
-A good crop again in the third year. | 0:11:51 | 0:11:54 | |
-Now farming on too big a scale... | 0:11:54 | 0:11:57 | |
-..to continue -with only one set of machinery. | 0:11:57 | 0:12:00 | |
-After taking ownership of his land, -John opened a store in Saltcoats. | 0:12:03 | 0:12:09 | |
-The community was expanding -and trading opportunities arose. | 0:12:09 | 0:12:14 | |
-The country was opening up as Welsh -communities settled in the west. | 0:12:14 | 0:12:19 | |
-Towns like Llywelyn, -Bangor Glyndwr and St David. | 0:12:20 | 0:12:23 | |
-But these weren't unpopulated areas. | 0:12:23 | 0:12:26 | |
-People had settled here long before -the Welsh or the white man. | 0:12:26 | 0:12:31 | |
-You were the first -to come to Bangor? | 0:12:31 | 0:12:34 | |
-Yes, that's right. -My father first came here in 1908. | 0:12:34 | 0:12:40 | |
-My father named it Bangor... | 0:12:40 | 0:12:43 | |
-..because -he was from Bangor, North Wales. | 0:12:43 | 0:12:46 | |
-Mr Lewis was a carpenter, -and it was he who built... | 0:12:46 | 0:12:51 | |
-..Bangor, Attwater and Llywelyn. | 0:12:51 | 0:12:55 | |
-Bangor -was first established in 1908. | 0:12:55 | 0:12:59 | |
-Before that, we went to Saltcoats -to buy our goods... | 0:13:00 | 0:13:03 | |
-..which was 18 miles away. | 0:13:03 | 0:13:05 | |
-Thomas Hughes came here in 1906. | 0:13:07 | 0:13:09 | |
-In 1907, he moved -across the road to Barnes Hall. | 0:13:10 | 0:13:15 | |
-He built a house there -and kept a store, a butcher's shop. | 0:13:16 | 0:13:21 | |
-He travelled around... | 0:13:23 | 0:13:26 | |
-..with a buggy. | 0:13:26 | 0:13:28 | |
-He sold meat, some groceries... | 0:13:28 | 0:13:31 | |
-..candy and pop. | 0:13:32 | 0:13:35 | |
-A lot of the meat -looked a little old... | 0:13:35 | 0:13:39 | |
-..by the time it came back... | 0:13:39 | 0:13:41 | |
-..after being -out in the sun all day. | 0:13:42 | 0:13:45 | |
-But there was more to life -than work, farming and building. | 0:13:45 | 0:13:50 | |
-The Welsh had transferred -their customs from Wales... | 0:13:50 | 0:13:53 | |
-..to South America, and then Canada. | 0:13:54 | 0:13:57 | |
-You went to the Welsh chapel? | 0:13:57 | 0:13:59 | |
-Well, not right away, -I don't think. | 0:13:59 | 0:14:03 | |
-In Patagonia, of course, -we went to chapel three times a day. | 0:14:03 | 0:14:08 | |
-Morning, noon and evening. | 0:14:09 | 0:14:11 | |
-But in this country, we didn't -have a chapel for a long while. | 0:14:12 | 0:14:17 | |
-Sunday school -was conducted in Welsh... | 0:14:19 | 0:14:23 | |
-..apart from one English class. | 0:14:24 | 0:14:26 | |
-The men -were on one side of the chapel... | 0:14:26 | 0:14:30 | |
-..and the women in the middle. | 0:14:30 | 0:14:32 | |
-The English class was held -on the other side of the chapel. | 0:14:32 | 0:14:38 | |
-People found this odd. | 0:14:38 | 0:14:41 | |
-All the men were on one side -of the chapel and the women... | 0:14:41 | 0:14:46 | |
-..were sitting in another section. | 0:14:47 | 0:14:50 | |
-We liked the arrangement... | 0:14:51 | 0:14:53 | |
-..because we could sing better. | 0:14:53 | 0:14:56 | |
-We had support -in the tenor and bass sections. | 0:14:56 | 0:15:02 | |
-But it soon became apparent... | 0:15:04 | 0:15:07 | |
-..that there -wouldn't be a colony in Canada... | 0:15:07 | 0:15:10 | |
-..like the one -they left in Patagonia. | 0:15:10 | 0:15:13 | |
-The Welsh language -was sure to drown... | 0:15:13 | 0:15:16 | |
-..in an English-speaking country. | 0:15:16 | 0:15:19 | |
-Yet everyone -knew the importance of an education. | 0:15:20 | 0:15:23 | |
-Within two years they'd -built a school for the children. | 0:15:23 | 0:15:27 | |
-William Davies -recalls the first morning... | 0:15:27 | 0:15:30 | |
-..and the linguistic problems. | 0:15:30 | 0:15:33 | |
-There were 30 -starting school that morning... | 0:15:33 | 0:15:37 | |
-..ranging in age -from six to 15, 16. | 0:15:37 | 0:15:41 | |
-You could count on one hand -how many of them understood English. | 0:15:42 | 0:15:46 | |
-The rest of us knew no English. | 0:15:46 | 0:15:49 | |
-Most of us spoke Spanish. | 0:15:49 | 0:15:51 | |
-We went to school. | 0:15:52 | 0:15:54 | |
-Welsh to start with... | 0:15:54 | 0:15:56 | |
-..and then Spanish. | 0:15:56 | 0:15:59 | |
-When we came to Canada, -we had to learn English. | 0:15:59 | 0:16:03 | |
-So we had -some kind of three languages... | 0:16:04 | 0:16:06 | |
-..and not one proper language. | 0:16:07 | 0:16:09 | |
-I remember -the eisteddfodau at school... | 0:16:12 | 0:16:15 | |
-..at Magic School... | 0:16:15 | 0:16:17 | |
-..when I was a child. | 0:16:18 | 0:16:20 | |
-Competition. And recitations. | 0:16:20 | 0:16:24 | |
-Solos. Competition. | 0:16:24 | 0:16:26 | |
-Everything was competitions, -most in Welsh. | 0:16:27 | 0:16:30 | |
-Was it just the children -who competed, or did the adults too? | 0:16:30 | 0:16:35 | |
-No, some adults too -but mostly children. | 0:16:35 | 0:16:38 | |
-The Welsh create an eisteddfod -and compete wherever they go. | 0:16:39 | 0:16:42 | |
-Who'd have thought! | 0:16:43 | 0:16:44 | |
-As Glenys James -interviewed them in Canada... | 0:16:45 | 0:16:48 | |
-..memories of Patagonia -were recalled. | 0:16:48 | 0:16:51 | |
-Nine years before that... | 0:16:51 | 0:16:53 | |
-..many interviewees -visited Patagonia... | 0:16:53 | 0:16:56 | |
-..as part of -the centenary celebrations. | 0:16:56 | 0:17:00 | |
-For William Davies, -it was an impoverished sight. | 0:17:00 | 0:17:05 | |
-It's humble there. I wouldn't -want to live there any more. | 0:17:05 | 0:17:09 | |
-You're happy that you left? | 0:17:09 | 0:17:11 | |
-Yes, very happy. It's much better -for us here in many ways. | 0:17:11 | 0:17:16 | |
-Naturally, this triggered memories -of the colony for William Davies... | 0:17:19 | 0:17:24 | |
-..who'd heard so much -about his father's early life. | 0:17:24 | 0:17:28 | |
-My father went there as a boy -of five and a half years. | 0:17:30 | 0:17:35 | |
-My grandmother died -a few weeks after landing there. | 0:17:35 | 0:17:40 | |
-She's buried -somewhere on the beach near Madryn. | 0:17:40 | 0:17:44 | |
-Nobody knows where. | 0:17:44 | 0:17:46 | |
-My grandfather died -about two years later. | 0:17:46 | 0:17:51 | |
-Nobody knows what they suffered. | 0:17:52 | 0:17:54 | |
-Your father? | 0:17:54 | 0:17:56 | |
-Yes, and the first settlers. | 0:17:56 | 0:17:58 | |
-I remember him saying, "No-one knows -how much they suffered." | 0:17:59 | 0:18:03 | |
-At the time of the Great Depression -of the '30s, he'd say... | 0:18:03 | 0:18:07 | |
-.."Don't talk to me about hard -times. You know nothing about it. | 0:18:07 | 0:18:12 | |
-"You don't know -what hard times are." | 0:18:12 | 0:18:14 | |
-Oral tradition -can bring the past to life. | 0:18:15 | 0:18:19 | |
-It's a means of passing on the story -from one generation to the other. | 0:18:19 | 0:18:24 | |
-We can listen to these voices now... | 0:18:24 | 0:18:26 | |
-..and swear that we're -hearing our forefathers speaking. | 0:18:27 | 0:18:31 | |
-These voices -belong to brave souls... | 0:18:31 | 0:18:34 | |
-..who ventured to Canada, -not knowing what awaited them... | 0:18:34 | 0:18:38 | |
-..to establish a new Welsh colony. | 0:18:38 | 0:18:41 | |
-They, of course, were the children -of those who had also ventured... | 0:18:41 | 0:18:45 | |
-..like the parents -of Margaret Lewis. | 0:18:46 | 0:18:49 | |
-They were -just married a day or so before... | 0:18:49 | 0:18:52 | |
-..and they'd heard of these -going to Patagonia. | 0:18:52 | 0:18:56 | |
-They said, "We'll sell out and go -with them to this new country... | 0:18:56 | 0:19:00 | |
-"..and make a start" | 0:19:00 | 0:19:02 | |
-So they got down there -and there was nothing in the port. | 0:19:02 | 0:19:06 | |
-Nothing there at all, -only a few corrugated zinc houses. | 0:19:06 | 0:19:11 | |
-Where were you born? | 0:19:13 | 0:19:15 | |
-In South America. | 0:19:15 | 0:19:17 | |
-What about Welsh? -Did you speak Welsh at home? | 0:19:17 | 0:19:20 | |
-Yes, we spoke Welsh at home. | 0:19:21 | 0:19:22 | |
-We went to Bangor... | 0:19:23 | 0:19:26 | |
-..and started mixing -with the English. | 0:19:26 | 0:19:30 | |
-We didn't -speak much Welsh after that. | 0:19:31 | 0:19:33 | |
-72 years had passed... | 0:19:41 | 0:19:43 | |
-..since these Patagonians -left Puerto Madryn... | 0:19:44 | 0:19:47 | |
-..and settled in Saskatchewan. | 0:19:48 | 0:19:50 | |
-Glenys James wanted to know... | 0:19:51 | 0:19:53 | |
-..what condition the Welsh was in -in western Canada. | 0:19:53 | 0:19:57 | |
-How many children did you have? | 0:19:57 | 0:19:59 | |
-Nine. | 0:20:00 | 0:20:02 | |
-Did you teach them Welsh? | 0:20:02 | 0:20:05 | |
-Oh, yes, they all spoke Welsh. -They still understand it. | 0:20:05 | 0:20:09 | |
-They've moved around -and married English people... | 0:20:09 | 0:20:13 | |
-..so they don't practise it now. | 0:20:13 | 0:20:16 | |
-Do they speak Welsh at all -when they come home? | 0:20:16 | 0:20:20 | |
-Very little. | 0:20:20 | 0:20:22 | |
-I asked one woman and she said, -"I always speak Welsh... | 0:20:25 | 0:20:29 | |
-"..when I phone -Mrs Humphreys or Mrs Morris." | 0:20:29 | 0:20:33 | |
-They contacted each other in Welsh. | 0:20:33 | 0:20:36 | |
-If they couldn't remember -the Welsh word for something... | 0:20:37 | 0:20:41 | |
-..they turned to Spanish. | 0:20:41 | 0:20:44 | |
-Do you think the Welsh are different -from the other founders in the area? | 0:20:44 | 0:20:48 | |
-Yes. The other founders retain -their language, but not the Welsh. | 0:20:50 | 0:20:54 | |
-How do you think your family -managed to maintain the language? | 0:20:55 | 0:20:59 | |
-We spoke it at home and -chapel services were in Welsh too. | 0:21:01 | 0:21:05 | |
-The story of the Welsh language -in this colony... | 0:21:05 | 0:21:08 | |
-..is sad, considerably sadder -than the colony in Patagonia... | 0:21:09 | 0:21:13 | |
-..for many reasons. | 0:21:13 | 0:21:15 | |
-The number of Welsh speakers -is small, too small... | 0:21:15 | 0:21:18 | |
-..and the presence of English -is too strong. | 0:21:18 | 0:21:21 | |
-Welsh society and culture -can't be sustained... | 0:21:22 | 0:21:25 | |
-..without a good nucleus -of Welsh speakers. | 0:21:25 | 0:21:29 | |
-Because he married -a girl from Patagonia, Megan... | 0:21:31 | 0:21:35 | |
-..John Thomas documented -the Canadian colony's history... | 0:21:35 | 0:21:39 | |
-..a continent away from the other. | 0:21:39 | 0:21:41 | |
-After the first war, -the colony went down. | 0:21:43 | 0:21:47 | |
-The men went away -and the colony weakened. | 0:21:47 | 0:21:52 | |
-As a result... | 0:21:52 | 0:21:54 | |
-..the eisteddfod -that used to be held in Bangor... | 0:21:54 | 0:21:59 | |
-..and the cymanfa ganu -came to an end. | 0:21:59 | 0:22:02 | |
-We used to sing -at people's gravesides. | 0:22:02 | 0:22:05 | |
-We'd sing the hymn -O Fryniau Caersalem Ceir Gweled. | 0:22:05 | 0:22:09 | |
-In the end, -only one or two would sing the hymn. | 0:22:09 | 0:22:13 | |
-Nobody else knew the words. | 0:22:13 | 0:22:16 | |
-We had to give up this ritual. | 0:22:17 | 0:22:20 | |
-When did this happen? | 0:22:21 | 0:22:23 | |
-Around 1945, 1946. | 0:22:23 | 0:22:26 | |
-After the war? | 0:22:28 | 0:22:29 | |
-After the war? - -Yes, after the war. | 0:22:29 | 0:22:31 | |
-We tried our best to keep it up... | 0:22:31 | 0:22:33 | |
-..but there weren't enough voices -to maintain it. | 0:22:34 | 0:22:37 | |
-Do you still feel -that you are Welsh? | 0:22:40 | 0:22:42 | |
-Very much so. That's one thing -that's in my blood. | 0:22:43 | 0:22:46 | |
-Emigrating to a world -that's hopefully better. | 0:22:49 | 0:22:53 | |
-For the immigrants, a combination -of experience and poverty. | 0:22:53 | 0:22:58 | |
-Concerns about their families -and nervous hope for the future. | 0:22:58 | 0:23:02 | |
-And the brave decision -to venture there in the first place. | 0:23:03 | 0:23:06 | |
-But it's impossible to settle -in a new country without changing. | 0:23:07 | 0:23:11 | |
-Changing identify -and, through that, changing oneself. | 0:23:11 | 0:23:15 | |
-These people aren't saying goodbye -to Wales but rather their Welshness. | 0:23:15 | 0:23:20 | |
-That's the price they must pay -for the right to choose a future. | 0:23:20 | 0:23:24 | |
-I was in a Welsh colony -all my life, you see. | 0:23:24 | 0:23:27 | |
-S4C Subtitles by Adnod Cyf. | 0:23:53 | 0:23:55 | |
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