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-A quiet country. Unspoilt beauty -and celebrated traditions. | 0:00:01 | 0:00:07 | |
-It was very different once. 80 years -ago, Spain was torn apart by war. | 0:00:07 | 0:00:12 | |
-Welsh people were heavily involved. | 0:00:12 | 0:00:14 | |
-I'm following their journey, -retracing their steps... | 0:00:15 | 0:00:18 | |
-..to a country with painful memories -and continued ill-feeling. | 0:00:18 | 0:00:23 | |
-One of the most brutal wars of -the 20th century began in July 1936. | 0:00:35 | 0:00:42 | |
-The Spanish Civil War. | 0:00:42 | 0:00:44 | |
-Not everyone realised... | 0:00:44 | 0:00:46 | |
-..this was the beginning -of the battle against fascism. | 0:00:46 | 0:00:50 | |
-Many men travelled from Wales -to fight a battle of principle. | 0:00:50 | 0:00:54 | |
-Little attention has been given -to the women involved. | 0:00:55 | 0:00:58 | |
-Three young women from Wales had an -important part to play in the war. | 0:00:59 | 0:01:04 | |
-I'll recollect their stories, -which begin at sea. | 0:01:04 | 0:01:08 | |
-At daybreak on April 20, 1937... | 0:01:15 | 0:01:20 | |
-..a boat sailed towards the port -of Bilbao in the Basque Country... | 0:01:21 | 0:01:26 | |
-..captained by WH Roberts -from Penarth. | 0:01:26 | 0:01:29 | |
-Accompanying him was his daughter... | 0:01:29 | 0:01:31 | |
-..20-year-old Florence Evelyn, -or Fifi. | 0:01:32 | 0:01:34 | |
-Reaching Bilbao -was crucial for them. | 0:01:34 | 0:01:37 | |
-The Basque Country, -in Northern Spain... | 0:01:37 | 0:01:40 | |
-..supported -the democratic government... | 0:01:40 | 0:01:43 | |
-..against the right-wing armies. | 0:01:43 | 0:01:45 | |
-At that time, -because of a blockade... | 0:01:45 | 0:01:48 | |
-..Bilbao only had enough food -to last four days. | 0:01:49 | 0:01:53 | |
-The Seven Seas Spray's cargo -was partly made up of food. | 0:01:53 | 0:01:57 | |
-Captain Roberts had heard that -the sea was littered with mines. | 0:01:57 | 0:02:02 | |
-With Fifi at his side, -he set a course for Bilbao. | 0:02:02 | 0:02:07 | |
-At ten o'clock -we raised the anchor and left. | 0:02:11 | 0:02:14 | |
-The excitement of the event has been -captured in newspaper reports... | 0:02:14 | 0:02:19 | |
-..and in -the young woman's memories... | 0:02:19 | 0:02:22 | |
-..as her father, defying orders, -set off from France... | 0:02:22 | 0:02:25 | |
-..in the dead of night. | 0:02:26 | 0:02:28 | |
-There were flashes from the land. | 0:02:28 | 0:02:30 | |
-Searchlights were pointed towards us -but my father ignored them all. | 0:02:30 | 0:02:35 | |
-Defying the British authorities -was a bold move. | 0:02:36 | 0:02:39 | |
-Bolder still -was venturing out to sea... | 0:02:40 | 0:02:42 | |
-..where mines -were reportedly floating. | 0:02:42 | 0:02:45 | |
-However, there were no mines, -there was no blockade. | 0:02:46 | 0:02:49 | |
-It was a conspiracy -to prevent ships from coming in. | 0:02:49 | 0:02:52 | |
-At the time, Captain Roberts, -Fifi and the sailors... | 0:02:52 | 0:02:56 | |
-..risked their lives -to rescue the Basque Country. | 0:02:56 | 0:02:59 | |
-More ships would follow, -many from Wales. | 0:03:00 | 0:03:03 | |
-The cargo of Seven Seas Spray -offered hope. | 0:03:04 | 0:03:07 | |
-As we came riverside, everyone -was hanging out of their windows... | 0:03:10 | 0:03:14 | |
-..waving their arms -and crying happily. | 0:03:14 | 0:03:16 | |
-This was nine months after -the start of the Spanish Civil War. | 0:03:20 | 0:03:24 | |
-The right-wing government, Basque and -Catalan nationalists on one side... | 0:03:24 | 0:03:29 | |
-..fascists and conservative forces, -led by Franco, on the other. | 0:03:29 | 0:03:33 | |
-On land, they had surrounded -the Basque Country. | 0:03:33 | 0:03:37 | |
-At sea, the blockade -prevented maritime movement... | 0:03:37 | 0:03:42 | |
-..causing great hardship -for people like Cely Jiminez. | 0:03:42 | 0:03:47 | |
-We had to source goods -from places other than shops. | 0:03:47 | 0:03:51 | |
-Supplies were low. | 0:03:51 | 0:03:53 | |
-Goods were bought from what -we called the black market. | 0:03:53 | 0:03:57 | |
-Everything was expensive. | 0:03:57 | 0:04:00 | |
-A kilo of sugar was 80 pesetas. -A litre of oil was a similar price. | 0:04:00 | 0:04:04 | |
-The Spanish Civil War was a -brutal war between different worlds. | 0:04:09 | 0:04:13 | |
-The democratic government -of the popular front... | 0:04:14 | 0:04:17 | |
-..was a collection of left-wing -groups, communists and anarchists. | 0:04:17 | 0:04:21 | |
-They believed in -education for all, women's rights... | 0:04:22 | 0:04:25 | |
-..and powers for -the Basque Country and Catalonia. | 0:04:25 | 0:04:28 | |
-They wanted to overthrow landowners -and the Catholic Church... | 0:04:28 | 0:04:32 | |
-..who rebelled with the help -of Mussolini in Italy... | 0:04:32 | 0:04:36 | |
-..and Hitler's Nazis in Germany. | 0:04:37 | 0:04:39 | |
-Western European countries watched -and did nothing. | 0:04:40 | 0:04:45 | |
-Individuals were ready to stand up -and they would be seen as heroes. | 0:04:45 | 0:04:49 | |
-After being welcomed -in the Basque Country... | 0:04:53 | 0:04:56 | |
-..Fifi Roberts arrived here. | 0:04:56 | 0:04:59 | |
-A few days earlier, in this town... | 0:04:59 | 0:05:01 | |
-..one of the civil war's -most recognised events took place. | 0:05:01 | 0:05:06 | |
-It's an event that changed -the course of the war... | 0:05:06 | 0:05:09 | |
-..an event that changed -the history of warfare itself. | 0:05:10 | 0:05:13 | |
-This is Guernica. | 0:05:13 | 0:05:15 | |
-It was Monday, April 26, 1937. | 0:05:15 | 0:05:19 | |
-There was a market in this square. | 0:05:20 | 0:05:22 | |
-The place was packed -with people and market stalls. | 0:05:22 | 0:05:26 | |
-At 4.00pm, church bells were rung -and factory hooters were sounded. | 0:05:26 | 0:05:30 | |
-A military plane was approaching. | 0:05:31 | 0:05:33 | |
-It wasn't just one plane, -it was wave upon wave of aeroplanes. | 0:05:33 | 0:05:38 | |
-German planes dropped bombs. | 0:05:38 | 0:05:40 | |
-Italian planes shot people -as they fled. | 0:05:40 | 0:05:43 | |
-As you can see, -most of the buildings here are new. | 0:05:45 | 0:05:48 | |
-The old, historic town of Guernica -was completely destroyed. | 0:05:48 | 0:05:53 | |
-Begotxu Olaizola -comes from the Basque Country. | 0:06:15 | 0:06:18 | |
-She lived for a time in Wales. | 0:06:18 | 0:06:20 | |
-She explained how Guernica -became a symbolic target... | 0:06:20 | 0:06:23 | |
-..the home of the Basque Country's -government when it was independent. | 0:06:23 | 0:06:27 | |
-It was more than just -military strategy. | 0:06:28 | 0:06:31 | |
-It was a moral strategy to break -the heart of the Basque Country. | 0:06:32 | 0:06:37 | |
-Nothing about it was militaristic. | 0:06:37 | 0:06:39 | |
-There was a small ammunition factory -here but it wasn't bombed. | 0:06:40 | 0:06:44 | |
-They bombed Guernica town centre. | 0:06:44 | 0:06:47 | |
-How did it affect -the Basque population? | 0:06:47 | 0:06:49 | |
-If you read the press reports, -it really did break their hearts. | 0:06:50 | 0:06:56 | |
-It was a very effective strategy. | 0:06:57 | 0:07:00 | |
-I accompanied Begotxu -to the peace museum. | 0:07:03 | 0:07:06 | |
-It was established -to commemorate the attack. | 0:07:06 | 0:07:10 | |
-Over the years, historians -have pieced the day together... | 0:07:10 | 0:07:15 | |
-..to recall the event. | 0:07:15 | 0:07:17 | |
-They initially used fire bombs, -the one-kilo variety. | 0:07:23 | 0:07:27 | |
-7,000 were used. | 0:07:27 | 0:07:29 | |
-After the fire bombs, -they dropped huge 250kg bombs... | 0:07:30 | 0:07:34 | |
-..to destroy everything -in their path. | 0:07:34 | 0:07:37 | |
-Everything was lost. | 0:07:37 | 0:07:40 | |
-People fled to the shelters -carrying their house keys... | 0:07:41 | 0:07:45 | |
-..thinking it was -an ordinary bombing raid. | 0:07:45 | 0:07:49 | |
-These were planes -they'd seen before. | 0:07:49 | 0:07:51 | |
-When they returned home... | 0:07:52 | 0:07:54 | |
-..they saw their homes -had been completely destroyed. | 0:07:54 | 0:07:58 | |
-Fifi Roberts arrived -within days of the destruction. | 0:08:02 | 0:08:06 | |
-There were groups carrying anything -that was left of their lives. | 0:08:08 | 0:08:12 | |
-It was a heart-breaking scene. | 0:08:12 | 0:08:14 | |
-Once we reached Guernica, there -was not a single building standing. | 0:08:14 | 0:08:20 | |
-Ashes everywhere and nobody to be -seen but for one or two soldiers. | 0:08:20 | 0:08:25 | |
-They seemed to be searching -for bodies in the ruins. | 0:08:25 | 0:08:28 | |
-The place was totally destroyed. | 0:08:29 | 0:08:31 | |
-The bombs were intentional. | 0:08:31 | 0:08:33 | |
-Market day in the centre -of the old town. | 0:08:33 | 0:08:36 | |
-Guernica was a symbol -of Basque independence. | 0:08:36 | 0:08:39 | |
-As well as overthrowing -the government in war... | 0:08:39 | 0:08:42 | |
-..Franco also wanted to crush -its supporters. | 0:08:42 | 0:08:45 | |
-Basque and Catalan nationalists, -socialists and infidels. | 0:08:45 | 0:08:50 | |
-For Franco, -this was a cruel mission for change. | 0:08:50 | 0:08:53 | |
-He requested that German planes -drop the bombs... | 0:08:54 | 0:08:57 | |
-..and Italian planes -shot the people. | 0:08:58 | 0:09:00 | |
-For Hitler and Mussolini, the attack -was a rehearsal for things to come. | 0:09:00 | 0:09:05 | |
-This is why Guernica was chosen. | 0:09:09 | 0:09:11 | |
-The trunk of this old oak tree -is a symbol of Basque independence. | 0:09:12 | 0:09:16 | |
-A history in this tree. | 0:09:16 | 0:09:18 | |
-The attack and the fall of Bilbao -soon after destroyed Basque spirits. | 0:09:18 | 0:09:23 | |
-Today, the memories inspire. | 0:09:24 | 0:09:27 | |
-In our memories, it's remained as an -attack against the Basque Country. | 0:09:28 | 0:09:34 | |
-Against the existence -of the Basque Country. | 0:09:35 | 0:09:38 | |
-Begotxu and I -attend a huge rally that night. | 0:09:42 | 0:09:46 | |
-A rally to welcome -a politician's release from jail. | 0:09:46 | 0:09:49 | |
-A former member -of separatist group ETA... | 0:09:49 | 0:09:52 | |
-..who now supports peace. | 0:09:53 | 0:09:54 | |
-Arnaldo Otegi wants to recreate -the collaboration of the 1930s... | 0:09:55 | 0:10:00 | |
-..between left-wing parties -and lesser nations. | 0:10:00 | 0:10:04 | |
-How influential is Arnaldo Otegi? | 0:10:06 | 0:10:09 | |
-Arnaldo Otegi, -along with four others... | 0:10:10 | 0:10:14 | |
-..has moved ETA away from -its violent past five years ago. | 0:10:14 | 0:10:20 | |
-He's worked very hard... | 0:10:20 | 0:10:23 | |
-..he's done a lot -of important work. | 0:10:23 | 0:10:25 | |
-I'm looking forward to hearing -what he has to say today. | 0:10:25 | 0:10:29 | |
-What he says is important, -what he does is even more important. | 0:10:29 | 0:10:34 | |
-We'll wait and see. | 0:10:35 | 0:10:37 | |
-I hope Otegi, or someone else, -can find a way to heal this country. | 0:10:37 | 0:10:43 | |
-A part of that process... | 0:10:53 | 0:10:54 | |
-..would be returning this -to the Basque Country. | 0:10:55 | 0:10:58 | |
-It's a copy -of Pablo Picasso's Guernica. | 0:10:58 | 0:11:00 | |
-The original is in -the Spanish capital, Madrid. | 0:11:01 | 0:11:04 | |
-For 40 years -after winning the war... | 0:11:04 | 0:11:07 | |
-..Franco tried to stifle the Basque -Country's culture and language... | 0:11:07 | 0:11:11 | |
-..and the memory -of what happened here. | 0:11:11 | 0:11:13 | |
-For many in the Basque Country -today, memory is a great weapon. | 0:11:13 | 0:11:18 | |
-A Welsh lady has a part to play -in those memories. | 0:11:18 | 0:11:21 | |
-After that journey that brought her -from Bilbao to Guernica... | 0:11:29 | 0:11:33 | |
-..Fifi Roberts and her father -made many more journeys... | 0:11:33 | 0:11:37 | |
-..back and forth to the -Basque Country and along the coast. | 0:11:37 | 0:11:41 | |
-On one occasion, to the west... | 0:11:41 | 0:11:43 | |
-..her ship was held by -Italian soldiers for two months... | 0:11:43 | 0:11:48 | |
-..as food stocks ran low. | 0:11:48 | 0:11:50 | |
-Fifi returned to Penarth and settled -eventually in South-west England. | 0:11:51 | 0:11:56 | |
-The memory of the time -she spent here... | 0:11:56 | 0:11:59 | |
-..stayed with her until she died. | 0:11:59 | 0:12:02 | |
-By the time she reached Guernica... | 0:12:02 | 0:12:05 | |
-..two other Welsh women -were already in Spain. | 0:12:05 | 0:12:08 | |
-As we follow in their footsteps, we -will witness the intensity of war. | 0:12:08 | 0:12:13 | |
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-Subtitles - -Subtitles | 0:12:23 | 0:12:25 | |
-The Spanish Civil War -started in July 1936... | 0:12:28 | 0:12:31 | |
-..but it was more than a civil war. | 0:12:31 | 0:12:34 | |
-Italy and Germany -supplied the right-wing rebels... | 0:12:34 | 0:12:37 | |
-..with soldiers, -aeroplanes and weapons. | 0:12:37 | 0:12:39 | |
-The Soviet Union provided some -assistance to the government... | 0:12:39 | 0:12:43 | |
-..but for them, volunteer help -was just as important. | 0:12:43 | 0:12:46 | |
-Socialists and fascists opposers -from around the world... | 0:12:47 | 0:12:50 | |
-..including Wales. | 0:12:50 | 0:12:53 | |
-Fifi Roberts' involvement in the -Spanish Civil War was unexpected... | 0:12:53 | 0:12:58 | |
-..but two Welsh nurses had made -a conscious decision to be here... | 0:12:58 | 0:13:03 | |
-..because of their beliefs -and conviction. | 0:13:03 | 0:13:06 | |
-Thora Silverthorne was the daughter -of a communist from Abertillery. | 0:13:06 | 0:13:11 | |
-She arrived in Granen, -a sleepy town today. | 0:13:12 | 0:13:15 | |
-She arrived in a lorry -not knowing what lay ahead for her. | 0:13:15 | 0:13:18 | |
-She helped establish -one of the first army hospitals. | 0:13:19 | 0:13:22 | |
-Thora was a member of -the first medical unit in Spain... | 0:13:24 | 0:13:28 | |
-..working for a body named SMAC. | 0:13:28 | 0:13:31 | |
-The day they left London... | 0:13:31 | 0:13:33 | |
-..10,000 turned up to -an anti-fascist rally in Hyde Park. | 0:13:33 | 0:13:37 | |
-3,000 people turned up at Victoria -Station to bid them farewell. | 0:13:37 | 0:13:41 | |
-They could see that fascism and -Nazism in Europe was on the rise... | 0:13:41 | 0:13:46 | |
-..and that the war in Spain -was a war to oppose the rise. | 0:13:46 | 0:13:50 | |
-The rebels, the nacionales -led by Franco, dominated the war. | 0:13:50 | 0:13:54 | |
-An important factor -was Franco's army... | 0:13:54 | 0:13:57 | |
-..which crossed to Spain from -North Africa thanks to German help. | 0:13:57 | 0:14:01 | |
-They made their way -across the country... | 0:14:02 | 0:14:05 | |
-..killing the opposition -and punishing survivors. | 0:14:05 | 0:14:08 | |
-They crushed the new-found rights -of women and many were raped. | 0:14:09 | 0:14:14 | |
-Government supporters -were pushed back. | 0:14:15 | 0:14:17 | |
-Some professional soldiers... | 0:14:17 | 0:14:19 | |
-..civilians and thousands -of overseas volunteers. | 0:14:20 | 0:14:23 | |
-Thora's unit initially arrived -in Granen on the Aragon front. | 0:14:27 | 0:14:32 | |
-Some of the bloodiest battles -were fought 12 miles from the town. | 0:14:33 | 0:14:37 | |
-Their task was establishing -a field hospital... | 0:14:38 | 0:14:41 | |
-..to give soldiers intensive care. | 0:14:41 | 0:14:44 | |
-The only place to set up a hospital -was the doctor's former home. | 0:14:45 | 0:14:49 | |
-It was very dirty -and overrun with rats. | 0:14:49 | 0:14:52 | |
-We cleaned and scoured the building -for a whole week. | 0:14:52 | 0:14:56 | |
-We then set up a theatre -for surgery. | 0:14:57 | 0:14:59 | |
-That was my domain since I was -used to working in a theatre. | 0:14:59 | 0:15:03 | |
-One of the town's older residents -showed me where the barber's shop... | 0:15:05 | 0:15:10 | |
-..and hospital were located. | 0:15:10 | 0:15:13 | |
-I arrived in Granen -with a forlorn hope... | 0:15:16 | 0:15:18 | |
-..of finding something -associated with the civil war. | 0:15:18 | 0:15:21 | |
-Historians claim there is nothing -to show where the hospital was. | 0:15:22 | 0:15:27 | |
-The only thing I knew was it was -situated in the doctor's house... | 0:15:27 | 0:15:31 | |
-..and at the time, -it was the town's largest house. | 0:15:31 | 0:15:35 | |
-I started asking local people -and they said it was situated here. | 0:15:35 | 0:15:40 | |
-They remember the building... | 0:15:40 | 0:15:42 | |
-..they remember the doctor -and the hospital. | 0:15:43 | 0:15:46 | |
-The hospital was similar to today's -Accident and Emergency department. | 0:15:47 | 0:15:52 | |
-Injured soldiers arrived, emergency -treatment where they lay... | 0:15:52 | 0:15:57 | |
-..before sending the injured -to other units and hospitals. | 0:15:57 | 0:16:01 | |
-The Granen hospital -treated up to 120 soldiers daily. | 0:16:01 | 0:16:05 | |
-We are very busy. | 0:16:07 | 0:16:09 | |
-The attack on Huesca has begun and -will be for some time I'm afraid. | 0:16:09 | 0:16:14 | |
-We've been working -for the last few days... | 0:16:14 | 0:16:17 | |
-..some days for 14 hours. | 0:16:18 | 0:16:20 | |
-It's difficult for us to imagine -the conditions at that time. | 0:16:26 | 0:16:30 | |
-This is why I'm here. | 0:16:31 | 0:16:33 | |
-Places like this -would be turned into hospitals. | 0:16:33 | 0:16:37 | |
-The medical group would arrive and -source the most suitable building. | 0:16:37 | 0:16:42 | |
-Thora mentioned turning a place -similar to this into a hospital. | 0:16:42 | 0:16:47 | |
-Operations were carried out -on the bar. | 0:16:47 | 0:16:50 | |
-This was a brutal war on both sides. | 0:16:54 | 0:16:56 | |
-Normal rules were ignored. -Even hospitals were a target. | 0:16:56 | 0:17:01 | |
-We have become accustomed to the air -raids although they still worry me. | 0:17:04 | 0:17:08 | |
-Planes flew over last night -dropping bombs but did no damage. | 0:17:08 | 0:17:13 | |
-The swine deliberately -target hospitals, it's inhuman. | 0:17:15 | 0:17:19 | |
-An English nurse working in a -village some distance from here... | 0:17:20 | 0:17:24 | |
-..was very frightened. | 0:17:24 | 0:17:26 | |
-The previous day, she was talking -to a comrade when a bomb dropped. | 0:17:26 | 0:17:30 | |
-She was thrown off her chair -and her companion was killed. | 0:17:30 | 0:17:33 | |
-She saw a bunch of children killed -by another bomb. It's really awful. | 0:17:34 | 0:17:38 | |
-There were horrific incidents -on both sides. | 0:17:44 | 0:17:47 | |
-When Franco and his nacionales -occupied a town or village... | 0:17:47 | 0:17:52 | |
-..they mercilessly -killed their opposition. | 0:17:52 | 0:17:55 | |
-On the other hand, there were -attacks on the Catholic Church too. | 0:17:55 | 0:17:59 | |
-Here, under the name of Primo de -Rivera, leader of the Falange... | 0:17:59 | 0:18:02 | |
-..the Spanish fascist party... | 0:18:03 | 0:18:05 | |
-..are the names -of over 60 people killed here. | 0:18:05 | 0:18:09 | |
-This number includes over -50 priests, killed by anarchists. | 0:18:09 | 0:18:15 | |
-The paint across the memorial -shows that feelings still run high. | 0:18:15 | 0:18:20 | |
-The Catholic Church was a huge -factor in the Spanish Civil War. | 0:18:34 | 0:18:38 | |
-It was one of the powers -of Spanish society. | 0:18:39 | 0:18:42 | |
-The republicans and the government -wanted to break that power. | 0:18:42 | 0:18:46 | |
-On the other hand, Franco and his -supporters wanted to maintain it. | 0:18:46 | 0:18:50 | |
-When the war began, the -Catholic Church supported Franco. | 0:18:51 | 0:18:55 | |
-The republicans and the government -fiercely opposed it. | 0:18:55 | 0:18:59 | |
-To this day, many Spaniards find it -difficult to talk about the war. | 0:19:01 | 0:19:05 | |
-Hundreds of thousands of Spaniards -were killed by other Spaniards. | 0:19:05 | 0:19:09 | |
-Historians claim that Franco -wanted to cleanse the country... | 0:19:09 | 0:19:13 | |
-..of his opponents. | 0:19:14 | 0:19:16 | |
-As well as revenge, he buried -the memory of what happened. | 0:19:16 | 0:19:20 | |
-In the middle of the horror of war, -because of the horror of war... | 0:19:25 | 0:19:29 | |
-..personal stories developed. | 0:19:29 | 0:19:32 | |
-In a civil ceremony, Thora married -a doctor, Kenneth Sinclair Loutit. | 0:19:32 | 0:19:36 | |
-It was, of course, inevitable -I should fall in love with Thora. | 0:19:37 | 0:19:41 | |
-She had an instinctive understanding -of people's feelings... | 0:19:41 | 0:19:45 | |
-..which made -her social relationship successful. | 0:19:45 | 0:19:48 | |
-All this encased in Celtic good -looks made me a very privileged man. | 0:19:49 | 0:19:54 | |
-He remembers -how very effective she was... | 0:19:54 | 0:19:58 | |
-..warming to people but also brave. | 0:19:58 | 0:20:01 | |
-Brave because she feared. | 0:20:01 | 0:20:03 | |
-She could control that fear -and help others to keep their heads. | 0:20:03 | 0:20:07 | |
-Even when the ground shook -with bombs. | 0:20:07 | 0:20:10 | |
-Thora Silverthorne was in Spain... | 0:20:12 | 0:20:15 | |
-..because of her strong -anti-fascist beliefs. | 0:20:15 | 0:20:19 | |
-She was raised in Abertillery. | 0:20:19 | 0:20:21 | |
-She witnessed the effect -of the depression in the Valleys. | 0:20:21 | 0:20:25 | |
-She joined the Young Communist -League at the age of 16. | 0:20:25 | 0:20:28 | |
-She said that everyone -in Abertillery discussed politics. | 0:20:28 | 0:20:33 | |
-After six months with SMAC, she -joined the International Brigade... | 0:20:33 | 0:20:38 | |
-..soldiers from around the world -who fought with the republicans. | 0:20:39 | 0:20:43 | |
-They included miners -from South Wales. | 0:20:44 | 0:20:47 | |
-They came because -they were communists and socialists. | 0:20:47 | 0:20:51 | |
-Thora believed that if they were -defeated by fascism in Spain... | 0:20:52 | 0:20:57 | |
-..they would be defeated -across the rest of Europe. | 0:20:57 | 0:21:01 | |
-The International Brigade -was an incredible army. | 0:21:03 | 0:21:06 | |
-A mixture of people -from different backgrounds. | 0:21:07 | 0:21:09 | |
-They were trained for four days -before facing Franco's army. | 0:21:10 | 0:21:14 | |
-They came from over 50 countries -across the world. | 0:21:15 | 0:21:18 | |
-Those who came from Britain -broke the law in doing so. | 0:21:18 | 0:21:22 | |
-The British government's policy -was to stay neutral. | 0:21:22 | 0:21:26 | |
-There was a ban -on travelling to Spain to fight. | 0:21:26 | 0:21:30 | |
-Amongst the 35,000 volunteers, there -were 180 from Wales, mostly miners. | 0:21:30 | 0:21:36 | |
-33 never returned home. | 0:21:37 | 0:21:40 | |
-This war is just bloody. | 0:21:43 | 0:21:45 | |
-If it was at all possible, it's made -me even more violently anti-fascist. | 0:21:45 | 0:21:50 | |
-Their methods, -even for war, are horrible. | 0:21:50 | 0:21:53 | |
-Seeing the consequences of war left -its mark on Thora by spring 1937. | 0:21:57 | 0:22:03 | |
-She was concerned that her brother, -Shon, would follow her. | 0:22:03 | 0:22:08 | |
-I imagine Shon -is on the point of coming out. | 0:22:09 | 0:22:12 | |
-Please don't let him. | 0:22:12 | 0:22:15 | |
-I just couldn't bear the strain -of knowing he was in danger too. | 0:22:15 | 0:22:19 | |
-I'd love to see you all... | 0:22:21 | 0:22:23 | |
-..and talk to you. | 0:22:24 | 0:22:25 | |
-During the war, -there were some key battles... | 0:22:31 | 0:22:34 | |
-..where both sides fought -determinedly or made a stand. | 0:22:34 | 0:22:39 | |
-Thora, the nurse -from Abertillery... | 0:22:39 | 0:22:42 | |
-..treated the injured from at least -three or four of the key battles. | 0:22:42 | 0:22:46 | |
-First, down in Southern Spain... | 0:22:46 | 0:22:49 | |
-..and then, -as government forces retreated... | 0:22:49 | 0:22:52 | |
-..closer and closer to Madrid -and central Spain. | 0:22:52 | 0:22:56 | |
-The final battle was in Brunette. | 0:22:56 | 0:22:59 | |
-She worked in a hospital where -over 5,000 soldiers were treated... | 0:22:59 | 0:23:04 | |
-..in a short space of time. | 0:23:04 | 0:23:05 | |
-This was in July 1937. -She had been there for a year. | 0:23:06 | 0:23:09 | |
-She soon returned home. | 0:23:09 | 0:23:11 | |
-What she had seen during the war -made her more determined... | 0:23:11 | 0:23:15 | |
-..to oppose fascism. | 0:23:15 | 0:23:17 | |
-I've never lived -in another community... | 0:23:18 | 0:23:21 | |
-..where everybody -was everybody's friend. | 0:23:21 | 0:23:23 | |
-It was important to be there, -a bit of history, and helping. | 0:23:24 | 0:23:29 | |
-I think it was -the most important part of my life. | 0:23:29 | 0:23:33 | |
-Thora Silverthorne's next battle -was for nurses' rights. | 0:23:34 | 0:23:38 | |
-She established an union -and made a stand against managers. | 0:23:38 | 0:23:42 | |
-She was part of the discussions -to set up the NHS in 1948... | 0:23:42 | 0:23:47 | |
-..but she never forgot Spain. | 0:23:47 | 0:23:49 | |
-The songs played at her funeral were -Valley of Jarama, Cwm Rhondda... | 0:23:49 | 0:23:53 | |
-..The Internationale -and Hen Wlad Fy Nhadau. | 0:23:53 | 0:23:56 | |
-At almost the same time -as Thora returned to London... | 0:24:00 | 0:24:04 | |
-..another Welsh woman -was heading to Barcelona... | 0:24:04 | 0:24:07 | |
-..to play her part -in the war against fascism. | 0:24:08 | 0:24:10 | |
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-The medical crews initially -arrived here, in Barcelona. | 0:24:55 | 0:25:00 | |
-Thora Silverthorne came here at the -start of the war, in August 1936. | 0:25:00 | 0:25:05 | |
-In March 1937 Margaret Powell, -another Welsh nurse, arrived. | 0:25:05 | 0:25:10 | |
-She came from Llangenny -near Crickhowell. | 0:25:10 | 0:25:13 | |
-She was a communist and had family -who'd fought in World War One. | 0:25:14 | 0:25:18 | |
-She remembered Belgian refugees -that moved to the area. | 0:25:18 | 0:25:22 | |
-She was determined to help. | 0:25:22 | 0:25:24 | |
-On the day her midwifery training -ended, she was on her way. | 0:25:24 | 0:25:28 | |
-Margaret Powell reached Barcelona -as part of a convoy from Britain. | 0:25:45 | 0:25:50 | |
-Two new ambulances, -four men and two women. | 0:25:50 | 0:25:53 | |
-Two of the men were young. They -volunteered to drive the ambulances. | 0:25:53 | 0:25:57 | |
-They were both killed -within a fortnight of arriving... | 0:25:58 | 0:26:02 | |
-..an example of the heartbreak -Margaret would witness here. | 0:26:02 | 0:26:07 | |
-She began her work in Polenino. | 0:26:07 | 0:26:09 | |
-Soon enough, Margaret experienced -the chaos war created. | 0:26:15 | 0:26:19 | |
-She was meant to embark -on a short train journey... | 0:26:19 | 0:26:22 | |
-..but that became -a 12-hour marathon. | 0:26:23 | 0:26:25 | |
-The train would often stop... | 0:26:25 | 0:26:27 | |
-..the engine was transferred -to another train... | 0:26:28 | 0:26:31 | |
-..and she failed to complete -the journey to Zaragoza. | 0:26:31 | 0:26:34 | |
-She walked the final three miles -to Polenino. | 0:26:35 | 0:26:37 | |
-I was shown to our communal bedroom. | 0:26:39 | 0:26:42 | |
-Six beds, a shelf and a hook -for our few clothes... | 0:26:42 | 0:26:45 | |
-..and a washstand -with a bowl and a jug. | 0:26:46 | 0:26:48 | |
-Luckily, none of us snored. | 0:26:49 | 0:26:51 | |
-The one lavatory - a hole in the -think stone floor near our bedroom. | 0:26:51 | 0:26:55 | |
-And how we knew it -as the weather got hotter. | 0:26:56 | 0:26:58 | |
-Polenino is where -Margaret's journey began. | 0:27:00 | 0:27:03 | |
-This was the hospital. | 0:27:03 | 0:27:05 | |
-After a few days, Margaret enquired -about a constant sound she heard. | 0:27:05 | 0:27:10 | |
-She was told -it was the noise of battle. | 0:27:11 | 0:27:13 | |
-For a nurse, battles mean work. | 0:27:13 | 0:27:16 | |
-There were quieter periods too. | 0:27:17 | 0:27:19 | |
-Margaret worked as a nurse in the -community and worked as a midwife... | 0:27:19 | 0:27:24 | |
-..bringing new life into the world. | 0:27:25 | 0:27:27 | |
-That was just mere respite. | 0:27:27 | 0:27:29 | |
-Soon, she was back in the thick -of it, trying to save lives. | 0:27:30 | 0:27:33 | |
-The house in Polenino -was filled with historic wonders... | 0:27:36 | 0:27:40 | |
-..including direct links -to Margaret's time here. | 0:27:40 | 0:27:43 | |
-The owner showed me where patients -and staff carved their names... | 0:27:43 | 0:27:47 | |
-..in the beams. | 0:27:47 | 0:27:49 | |
-One name stands out - Dr Aguilo. | 0:27:50 | 0:27:52 | |
-It's almost like seeing -Margaret's name. | 0:27:52 | 0:27:56 | |
-This Majorcan doctor worked closely -with Margaret during her time here. | 0:27:56 | 0:28:00 | |
-These were young people. | 0:28:01 | 0:28:03 | |
-During hard times, -they could still have fun. | 0:28:03 | 0:28:06 | |
-One hot summer's day, Margaret and -her friends bathed in the river. | 0:28:06 | 0:28:11 | |
-They were driven away by the locals -for scaring the donkeys! | 0:28:11 | 0:28:15 | |
-Because of the intense situation... | 0:28:31 | 0:28:34 | |
-..the war led to many -important medical developments... | 0:28:34 | 0:28:38 | |
-..such as how to treat soldiers -so close to the frontline. | 0:28:38 | 0:28:43 | |
-The other was triage - the order for -deciding the urgency of treatment. | 0:28:43 | 0:28:49 | |
-But as Margaret Powell said, -for them... | 0:28:49 | 0:28:52 | |
-..it was a case of deciding -who would die first. | 0:28:53 | 0:28:56 | |
-She has a story about treating -two men in a ward. | 0:28:57 | 0:29:01 | |
-She went to the older man who -told her to treat the younger man. | 0:29:01 | 0:29:05 | |
-As she treated the younger, -the older man died. | 0:29:05 | 0:29:09 | |
-The younger man started to scream. | 0:29:09 | 0:29:11 | |
-That's when she realised -they were brothers. | 0:29:11 | 0:29:15 | |
-Margaret said -she just wanted to run away. | 0:29:15 | 0:29:18 | |
-It's hard to imagine -why a Welsh woman would choose... | 0:29:27 | 0:29:30 | |
-..to work in the middle of such -destruction in a foreign country. | 0:29:30 | 0:29:35 | |
-Margaret was in Spain -because she opposed fascism. | 0:29:35 | 0:29:38 | |
-Other nurses and doctors -were there... | 0:29:38 | 0:29:42 | |
-..because they believed everyone -had a right to treatment. | 0:29:42 | 0:29:45 | |
-Often, the help -meant more than just treatment. | 0:29:45 | 0:29:48 | |
-When I'm not needed for surgery... | 0:29:51 | 0:29:54 | |
-..I visit the temporary wards -in barns and sheds. | 0:29:55 | 0:29:59 | |
-I try to comfort the injured -and those close to death. | 0:29:59 | 0:30:03 | |
-As Franco's army gradually conquered -the country... | 0:30:06 | 0:30:09 | |
-..the government's armies tried -to make a stand in key locations... | 0:30:09 | 0:30:13 | |
-..gaining territory, -albeit temporarily. | 0:30:14 | 0:30:16 | |
-The greatest destruction -was witnessed in these areas. | 0:30:16 | 0:30:20 | |
-Margaret Powell -treated the injured here... | 0:30:22 | 0:30:25 | |
-..as she worked in a hospital -a few miles away. | 0:30:25 | 0:30:28 | |
-This is Belchite which has been -left exactly as it was... | 0:30:29 | 0:30:33 | |
-..after a brutal battle for almost -a fortnight in August 1937. | 0:30:33 | 0:30:38 | |
-It was left like this by Franco -for propaganda purposes. | 0:30:39 | 0:30:42 | |
-Whatever the reasons, the remains -reflect the intensity of battle... | 0:30:42 | 0:30:48 | |
-..on dozens of Spanish towns. | 0:30:49 | 0:30:51 | |
-It shows the horror of war -that happens across the world today. | 0:30:51 | 0:30:57 | |
-After the plains of Aragon and -Polenino, Margaret's world changed. | 0:31:16 | 0:31:20 | |
-By then, October 1937, the battles -had moved to the Pyrenees. | 0:31:20 | 0:31:25 | |
-There were no -established hospitals here. | 0:31:25 | 0:31:28 | |
-Small units moved from place -to place, following the battles. | 0:31:28 | 0:31:33 | |
-In one place, -they set up an emergency hospital... | 0:31:33 | 0:31:38 | |
-..only three miles -from the frontline. | 0:31:38 | 0:31:42 | |
-The task for me was to find -the location of that unit. | 0:31:43 | 0:31:47 | |
-Margaret had written vividly -about her work and the conditions. | 0:31:47 | 0:31:52 | |
-There was no electricity, -just an oil lamp and candles. | 0:31:52 | 0:31:56 | |
-Imagine the surgeon -opening someone's stomach... | 0:31:56 | 0:31:59 | |
-..searching for the liver -and stitching it under candlelight. | 0:31:59 | 0:32:03 | |
-Another pioneering aspect -of the medical work here... | 0:32:04 | 0:32:07 | |
-..was using blood banks, -a store of blood for surgeries. | 0:32:07 | 0:32:11 | |
-This was difficult in the mountains, -and supply was also a problem. | 0:32:11 | 0:32:15 | |
-They asked for contributions -from anyone who was available. | 0:32:15 | 0:32:20 | |
-Margaret said -they felt like vampires. | 0:32:20 | 0:32:23 | |
-We try to give blood -to every patient who needs it... | 0:32:23 | 0:32:26 | |
-..but there is no fridge -to store the blood. | 0:32:26 | 0:32:29 | |
-The most direct approach -is the only answer. | 0:32:30 | 0:32:33 | |
-At times, we can't find a donor... | 0:32:33 | 0:32:35 | |
-..because everyone -has given as much as they can. | 0:32:35 | 0:32:38 | |
-I was on my way. | 0:32:43 | 0:32:44 | |
-I knew that the emergency hospital -was in an old mill. | 0:32:45 | 0:32:48 | |
-It's now used as a hostel -but historian Jose Perez-Marcello... | 0:32:49 | 0:32:54 | |
-..knows precisely -where everything was. | 0:32:54 | 0:32:58 | |
-On the September 22, 1937, an -army medical unit was set up here. | 0:33:04 | 0:33:09 | |
-It benefitted -from having the mill here. | 0:33:09 | 0:33:12 | |
-The unit was set up here... | 0:33:12 | 0:33:14 | |
-..with two tents in that field. | 0:33:14 | 0:33:16 | |
-The operations were done -in this abattoir. | 0:33:17 | 0:33:20 | |
-They had a day to source a suitable -building and turn it into a theatre. | 0:33:26 | 0:33:33 | |
-That building was an abattoir. | 0:33:33 | 0:33:35 | |
-Boxes as beds, blankets as walls -and no pillows or sheets. | 0:33:35 | 0:33:39 | |
-They could hear the sound of battle -all day long... | 0:33:40 | 0:33:44 | |
-..a sure sign -that they would be busy later. | 0:33:44 | 0:33:47 | |
-They were responsible for -the welfare of 13,000 soldiers. | 0:33:47 | 0:33:50 | |
-Every day, lorries filled -with young men head for the front. | 0:33:53 | 0:33:57 | |
-They look younger and younger. | 0:33:57 | 0:33:59 | |
-Though I'm not religious... | 0:34:00 | 0:34:02 | |
-..I say a little prayer -and think of their families. | 0:34:02 | 0:34:06 | |
-I also wonder how long it will be... | 0:34:06 | 0:34:08 | |
-..until they are brought back -on the donkeys. | 0:34:08 | 0:34:11 | |
-Many died. | 0:34:13 | 0:34:15 | |
-Today, a society -keeps their memory alive. | 0:34:16 | 0:34:18 | |
-Soldiers were buried -without headstones. | 0:34:19 | 0:34:22 | |
-Often, there is no record of -the graves of government soldiers. | 0:34:23 | 0:34:26 | |
-People have declined to ask -in case they open old wounds. | 0:34:27 | 0:34:30 | |
-Next to the mill in Escartin, -there are two fields. | 0:34:31 | 0:34:34 | |
-They have been untouched -by the farmer since the war. | 0:34:34 | 0:34:38 | |
-They are now a pilgrimage site. | 0:34:38 | 0:34:40 | |
-Underground tests proved -that there were graves here. | 0:34:43 | 0:34:47 | |
-It was research by a society -determined to find the truth. | 0:34:47 | 0:34:52 | |
-They wanted to tell the story. | 0:34:52 | 0:34:55 | |
-They're glad to see forgotten sites -such as this being recognised. | 0:34:55 | 0:35:00 | |
-By revealing the story, -they gain a deeper understanding. | 0:35:01 | 0:35:04 | |
-Frederico -is an anti-Franco republican. | 0:35:05 | 0:35:07 | |
-His father fought for the fascists, -not because he was a fascist... | 0:35:08 | 0:35:12 | |
-..but because his home was conquered -by Franco early in the war. | 0:35:13 | 0:35:17 | |
-When he returned from the war, -he understood the outrage... | 0:35:21 | 0:35:25 | |
-..that had been done -and both he and I... | 0:35:25 | 0:35:27 | |
-..we are ashamed that the things -that were committed remain hidden. | 0:35:27 | 0:35:32 | |
-My work ensures -that Spain does not forget... | 0:35:32 | 0:35:35 | |
-..and knows what really happened -during Franco's time. | 0:35:36 | 0:35:40 | |
-For decades, -people didn't talk about the war... | 0:35:46 | 0:35:49 | |
-..or family members -that had fought or died. | 0:35:49 | 0:35:53 | |
-It was almost as if both sides -intentionally forgot. | 0:35:53 | 0:35:57 | |
-While Franco was alive... | 0:35:58 | 0:36:00 | |
-..the vanquished, -the left and the republicans... | 0:36:00 | 0:36:03 | |
-..remained silent -for fear of retribution. | 0:36:04 | 0:36:07 | |
-Whenever a man was buried, -the men asked me to accompany them. | 0:36:09 | 0:36:14 | |
-I never asked why but it was plain -I represented a wife or a mother. | 0:36:15 | 0:36:19 | |
-No record other than A's notes... | 0:36:19 | 0:36:21 | |
-..were kept of the soldiers -that passed through our hands. | 0:36:22 | 0:36:25 | |
-There was no time -to mark their graves. | 0:36:25 | 0:36:28 | |
-Some of the soldiers -were buried here. | 0:36:30 | 0:36:32 | |
-The soldiers Margaret and her team -failed to save. | 0:36:32 | 0:36:36 | |
-While many of Franco's supporters -were given respectable graves... | 0:36:36 | 0:36:41 | |
-..these soldiers were forgotten. | 0:36:41 | 0:36:43 | |
-Until society started researching -a few years ago... | 0:36:43 | 0:36:47 | |
-..no-one knew what was here. | 0:36:47 | 0:36:49 | |
-They now know -and there's a stone on each grave. | 0:36:49 | 0:36:52 | |
-They are stones without names. | 0:36:52 | 0:36:55 | |
-The evidence has disappeared... | 0:36:55 | 0:36:57 | |
-..and no-one will ever know -who was buried underground here. | 0:36:58 | 0:37:02 | |
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-Life was hard for Margaret Powell -in northern Aragon in autumn 1937. | 0:37:31 | 0:37:37 | |
-That winter, it became even harder. | 0:37:37 | 0:37:40 | |
-The republicans unsuccessfully tried -to break Franco's stranglehold... | 0:37:40 | 0:37:45 | |
-..in another part of Aragon, -Teruel... | 0:37:45 | 0:37:48 | |
-..during one of the harshest winters -Spain had ever witnessed. | 0:37:48 | 0:37:53 | |
-According to Margaret... | 0:37:53 | 0:37:55 | |
-..injured soldiers froze to death -before they were helped. | 0:37:55 | 0:37:59 | |
-War is never glorious... | 0:38:03 | 0:38:04 | |
-..for nurses, doctors -and the women who wait. | 0:38:05 | 0:38:08 | |
-We see the misery, -pain and tragedy of it. | 0:38:08 | 0:38:11 | |
-In Spain, -there was no lack of all three. | 0:38:12 | 0:38:15 | |
-By the beginning of 1939, -the end was nigh. | 0:38:22 | 0:38:26 | |
-Margaret Powell fled with whatever -was left of the republican army. | 0:38:26 | 0:38:31 | |
-The medical crew left Escartin... | 0:38:31 | 0:38:34 | |
-..and moved once more. | 0:38:34 | 0:38:36 | |
-Franco had the support of Germany -and Italy's modern weapons... | 0:38:36 | 0:38:41 | |
-..and the government -was left helpless. | 0:38:41 | 0:38:44 | |
-The nurses couldn't cope -with all the work. | 0:38:44 | 0:38:48 | |
-We do everything humanly possible, -more than I once thought possible. | 0:38:51 | 0:38:55 | |
-There is so much more that can be -done if there were more of us. | 0:38:56 | 0:38:59 | |
-By the time Margaret reached -Solsona in Catalonia... | 0:39:07 | 0:39:11 | |
-..the situation looked hopeless -for the government and republicans. | 0:39:11 | 0:39:15 | |
-They had fled north-east -towards their border with France. | 0:39:16 | 0:39:19 | |
-Margaret had travelled to Spain -at the earliest opportunity... | 0:39:20 | 0:39:24 | |
-..because she believed -in democracy and socialism... | 0:39:24 | 0:39:27 | |
-..and her desire to oppose fascism. | 0:39:28 | 0:39:30 | |
-Preparing to leave, her -determination was as strong as ever. | 0:39:30 | 0:39:34 | |
-Her love for the Spanish people -had strengthened her feelings. | 0:39:35 | 0:39:40 | |
-If you knew Spanish people -as I have come to know them... | 0:39:43 | 0:39:46 | |
-..you would find ordinary people -brave and kind... | 0:39:46 | 0:39:50 | |
-..fighting -not because they love bloodshed... | 0:39:51 | 0:39:53 | |
-..but know that they must fight -to save their homes... | 0:39:54 | 0:39:57 | |
-..and for the right -to live peacefully and decently. | 0:39:57 | 0:40:00 | |
-Spaniards know that victory -for the Fascist force... | 0:40:02 | 0:40:06 | |
-..would mean tyranny and oppression -for them and for Spain. | 0:40:06 | 0:40:10 | |
-As republican forces retreated, -chaos ensued. | 0:40:11 | 0:40:14 | |
-Margaret was in the middle -of that chaos. | 0:40:14 | 0:40:17 | |
-Members of the medical crew -searched for her... | 0:40:17 | 0:40:21 | |
-..and they found her here, -in Solsona. | 0:40:21 | 0:40:24 | |
-Knowing what I know of her, she -would have come to this building. | 0:40:24 | 0:40:28 | |
-This church had been turned -into an emergency hospital. | 0:40:28 | 0:40:32 | |
-By then, Margaret had been a nurse -in the war for two years... | 0:40:32 | 0:40:36 | |
-..in difficult circumstances -with little medical equipment. | 0:40:37 | 0:40:41 | |
-During that time, she didn't mislay -any piece of equipment. | 0:40:41 | 0:40:45 | |
-Of her patients, -none died from blood poisoning... | 0:40:45 | 0:40:49 | |
-..and only one died of gangrene. | 0:40:49 | 0:40:51 | |
-But they knew the end was nigh -for the government and republicans. | 0:40:55 | 0:41:00 | |
-They knew that Franco's army would -seek revenge on their opponents. | 0:41:00 | 0:41:05 | |
-The only answer -was fleeing to France. | 0:41:05 | 0:41:08 | |
-Long before February 1939... | 0:41:11 | 0:41:14 | |
-..most of the international soldiers -had returned home. | 0:41:15 | 0:41:19 | |
-Margaret, along with many -local republican fighters... | 0:41:19 | 0:41:23 | |
-..made the painfully long journey -to the border with France... | 0:41:23 | 0:41:27 | |
-..in the snow -and freezing temperatures. | 0:41:28 | 0:41:31 | |
-Tens of thousands of civilians -also made the journey... | 0:41:31 | 0:41:35 | |
-..the elderly, -pregnant women and children. | 0:41:35 | 0:41:38 | |
-They searched for gaps in the -Pyrenees and some kind of salvation. | 0:41:38 | 0:41:42 | |
-People's memories of this period -give us an idea of the chaos. | 0:41:47 | 0:41:52 | |
-Walking though the night, missing -children crying for their mothers. | 0:41:52 | 0:41:57 | |
-Babies born in the snow. -Children falling over the rocks. | 0:41:57 | 0:42:01 | |
-Some crawling on all fours, -others barefoot. | 0:42:01 | 0:42:04 | |
-For many republican soldiers, this -was the worst experience of all. | 0:42:04 | 0:42:09 | |
-A painful realisation -that they had lost everything. | 0:42:09 | 0:42:13 | |
-For Margaret, this was the end -of her journey in Spain. | 0:42:18 | 0:42:22 | |
-From the evidence gathered, we are -sure she crossed to France here... | 0:42:23 | 0:42:27 | |
-..along with a dishevelled army -of republicans... | 0:42:27 | 0:42:31 | |
-..on February 9, 1939, -possibly in the early hours. | 0:42:31 | 0:42:35 | |
-For her, it was heart-breaking. | 0:42:36 | 0:42:38 | |
-In her own words, she said -it was the saddest day of her life. | 0:42:38 | 0:42:43 | |
-War wasn't imaginary anymore. | 0:42:46 | 0:42:49 | |
-We had witnessed its horror -and devastation for two years... | 0:42:50 | 0:42:54 | |
-..until February 9, 1939, -the saddest day of my life... | 0:42:54 | 0:42:58 | |
-..when I, and 10,000 soldiers... | 0:42:58 | 0:43:01 | |
-..crossed over the Pyrenees -into unwelcoming France. | 0:43:01 | 0:43:05 | |
-Margaret, the soldiers -and thousands of civilians... | 0:43:14 | 0:43:19 | |
-..crossed over hoping for a welcome -and some assistance. | 0:43:19 | 0:43:23 | |
-Similar to the plight of refugees -today, that wasn't the case. | 0:43:23 | 0:43:28 | |
-The Spanish Civil War ended -in March 1939... | 0:43:29 | 0:43:33 | |
-..as Franco captured -the Spanish capital, Madrid. | 0:43:33 | 0:43:36 | |
-Historians on both sides -don't agree on the number of deaths. | 0:43:37 | 0:43:41 | |
-200,000 soldiers -in the fighting itself... | 0:43:41 | 0:43:44 | |
-..and according -to recent, impartial historians... | 0:43:44 | 0:43:48 | |
-..hundreds of thousands -of civilians... | 0:43:48 | 0:43:50 | |
-..executed and punished, -killed by the bombing raids... | 0:43:51 | 0:43:55 | |
-..or died in prison camps. | 0:43:55 | 0:43:57 | |
-This was the first war where more -civilians than soldiers were killed. | 0:43:57 | 0:44:02 | |
-No-one will ever know -the full story. | 0:44:02 | 0:44:05 | |
-Government supporters -were right to fear. | 0:44:09 | 0:44:12 | |
-Oppression followed, on the language -and culture of the Basque Country... | 0:44:12 | 0:44:18 | |
-..and Catalonia, -where my journey ends... | 0:44:18 | 0:44:20 | |
-..but this part of Catalonia -is in France. | 0:44:21 | 0:44:23 | |
-Every summer, thousands of visitors -flock here to enjoy the sunshine. | 0:44:23 | 0:44:29 | |
-In the cold of February 1939, -different visitors were here. | 0:44:29 | 0:44:33 | |
-From the half a million people -who'd crossed the mountains... | 0:44:34 | 0:44:37 | |
-..100,000 arrived here -and Margaret Powell was one of them. | 0:44:38 | 0:44:41 | |
-There were no holiday homes -and hotels here at that time... | 0:44:42 | 0:44:46 | |
-..just a strip of marshland -and a beach. | 0:44:46 | 0:44:49 | |
-It was all fenced off... | 0:44:49 | 0:44:51 | |
-..and soldiers from Senegal -made sure no-one fled. | 0:44:51 | 0:44:56 | |
-There were no toilets, -there was no drinking water. | 0:44:56 | 0:44:59 | |
-Some people drank seawater. | 0:44:59 | 0:45:01 | |
-There was no shelter. | 0:45:01 | 0:45:03 | |
-People dug in the sand -to create makeshift beds. | 0:45:03 | 0:45:07 | |
-Husbands and wives were separated -and families were split up. | 0:45:10 | 0:45:14 | |
-Disease was rife. | 0:45:14 | 0:45:16 | |
-90% of the babies born here -were likely to die. | 0:45:16 | 0:45:20 | |
-According to one -humanitarian observer... | 0:45:21 | 0:45:24 | |
-..the treatment they received -in France was terrible. | 0:45:24 | 0:45:28 | |
-The right-wing press -turned people against refugees. | 0:45:28 | 0:45:32 | |
-They labelled them red terrorists... | 0:45:32 | 0:45:34 | |
-..and warned of lawlessness -in the South of France. | 0:45:34 | 0:45:38 | |
-Amidst the hardship... | 0:45:48 | 0:45:49 | |
-..and the thousands of people -confined to this beach... | 0:45:50 | 0:45:54 | |
-..Margaret's future -was also unclear. | 0:45:54 | 0:45:57 | |
-She'd lost her passport. | 0:45:57 | 0:45:59 | |
-She had no documents to prove -she was a British citizen. | 0:45:59 | 0:46:03 | |
-Only after a Quaker relief team -was allowed to help was she rescued. | 0:46:04 | 0:46:10 | |
-Even then, it appears she returned -to help refugees find shelter... | 0:46:10 | 0:46:16 | |
-..but it was a terrible end -to a brave story. | 0:46:16 | 0:46:19 | |
-Well, the end of one brave story. | 0:46:23 | 0:46:25 | |
-Margaret went on to become a nurse -in the Second World War. | 0:46:26 | 0:46:29 | |
-Her worked involved -assisting refugees again. | 0:46:30 | 0:46:33 | |
-In 1944, she headed -for the Sinai desert in Egypt... | 0:46:33 | 0:46:37 | |
-..to care for Yugoslavian children -and mothers who sought refuge there. | 0:46:37 | 0:46:42 | |
-She worked in camps -in Northern Germany... | 0:46:42 | 0:46:45 | |
-..caring for people who had lost -their homes during the war... | 0:46:45 | 0:46:49 | |
-..but Spain never forgot her work. | 0:46:49 | 0:46:51 | |
-She was made a Dame of the Order of -Loyalty to the Spanish Republic... | 0:46:52 | 0:46:56 | |
-..for her valiant action -as a nurse, self-sacrifice... | 0:46:56 | 0:47:00 | |
-..and devotion to the wounded. | 0:47:00 | 0:47:02 | |
-That's the end of my journey... | 0:47:07 | 0:47:09 | |
-..after following the stories -of three young Welsh women... | 0:47:09 | 0:47:12 | |
-..caught in one -of the most brutal wars. | 0:47:12 | 0:47:15 | |
-No-one knows for sure -how many people were killed. | 0:47:15 | 0:47:18 | |
-Possibly 200,000. No-one knows -how many bodies are missing. | 0:47:19 | 0:47:23 | |
-When you remember -the refugee camp on that beach... | 0:47:23 | 0:47:27 | |
-..there are striking similarities -to the current situation. | 0:47:27 | 0:47:31 | |
-On this stone, to commemorate -the camp and the war... | 0:47:31 | 0:47:35 | |
-..there's one simple sentence -in French. | 0:47:35 | 0:47:40 | |
-Those of you who are free, remember. | 0:47:40 | 0:47:43 | |
-S4C Subtitles by Adnod Cyf. | 0:48:19 | 0:48:21 | |
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