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-Dic Jones

-was a farmer from Ceredigion.

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-For over 50 years,

-he was one of Wales's foremost poets.

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-Dic won the chair

-at the Urdd Eisteddfod five times.

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-He went on to be chaired

-at the National Eisteddfod...

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-..amid high acclaim

-from the adjudicators.

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-His masterful strict-metre odes,

-Y Cynhaeaf and Y Gwanwyn...

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-..are about agriculture

-and the life cycle.

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-These themes

-were close to his heart.

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-He married Jean,

-was father to six children...

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-..and loved his role

-as a grandfather.

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-He was the first farmer

-to become Archdruid...

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-..and received an honorary MA degree

-from the University of Wales.

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-Venerable Archdruid.

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-During Easter 2009,

-four months before his death...

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-..Dic gave a lengthy interview.

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-He reflected on his life, poetry

-and the subjects that inspired him.

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-It isn't the story of his life...

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-..but a commentary on the things

-that were important to him.

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-This is Dic Jones

-in his own words.

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-Hendre farm,

-near Aberporth in Ceredigion...

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-..was Dic's home from childhood.

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-Maturally, his story begins there.

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-When I was a small child...

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-..I remember a blanket

-that had a velvet edge.

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-Fiddling with it between my fingers

-was comforting.

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-I had to have this piece of cloth.

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-For some reason,

-I called it "Y Ffow".

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-When I was a boy, I wouldn't

-go anywhere without "Y Ffow".

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-It was dragged across the yard

-and taken everywhere...

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-..until it was so dirty

-that Mam had to wash it.

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-Apparently, I then went missing.

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-Everyone was searching for me.

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-Farmyards were dangerous places.

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-There were ponds and streams nearby.

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-Everybody was searching

-for the missing child.

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-It was a fine day and "Y Ffow"

-was drying on the washing line.

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-That's where they found me,

-fast asleep and clutching "Y Ffow".

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-At a young age,

-he took an interest in football.

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-He was in good company.

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-John Gwilym Jones Parc Nest,

-Aled Jones and Jim.

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-We all played for Newcastle Emlyn.

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-I recall three future Chief Bards

-playing in one match.

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-Jim, John and me.

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-When a shot went wide...

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-..John came up with the line

-"Is the goal getting smaller?"

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-Commentary in cynghanedd.

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-He composed strict-metre poetry

-- cynghanedd - in every match.

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-The match commentary

-was all in cynghanedd.

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-On one occasion,

-I remember him shouting...

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-.."Quickly, the boy kicks the ball

-into the net...

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-"..after running through a puddle."

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-"Finish that englyn!" he challenged.

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-I'd been cutting corn in the field

-by the main road.

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-My father sent me

-to stack sheaves of corn.

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-It was a five-acre field

-and involved a lot of work.

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-There was a match that afternoon

-against the Swansea A team.

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-Len Allchurch and Johnny King

-were in their team.

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-I was selected to play...

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-..but I had to stack sheaves

-in this bloody field!

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-I went to the field on my bike,

-with my kit in a sack.

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-I stacked sheaves until midday...

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-..then jumped on the bike

-and rode six miles to Cardigan.

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-I changed, played the game

-against Len Allchurch...

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-..and came home

-before I was even missed!

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-Dic's earliest bardic influence

-was his school friend, Tydfor...

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-..who encouraged him to compete

-in YFC contests.

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-I wrote three limericks...

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-..that went down well

-and got big laughs.

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-I started to enjoy the applause,

-so I composed more limericks.

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-We took the local newspaper,

-The Tivy-Side.

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-The likes of Isfoel and Alun Cilie

-would contribute to it.

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-I noticed verses with an odd layout.

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-A line, a dash, some words

-and then three more lines.

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-I thought I could do that

-because I had spotted the rhymes.

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-I knocked off dozens of them

-and showed them to Tegryn Davies.

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-He said, "Well, I'm afraid

-that they lack cynghanedd."

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-I'd never heard of "cynghanedd"

-but that's how it all started.

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-I became friends with

-the Cilie family, especially Alun.

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-On a Sunday night,

-I took my verses for him to read.

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-I also met T Llew Jones,

-S B Jones and Isfoel.

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-Y Cilie had a strong influence

-on southern Ceredigion.

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-As the Bible put it,

-"A legion, for we are many."

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-Alun was a pure poet.

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-He lived all his life near Y Cilie.

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-That was his life experience.

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-Dic didn't attend university

-and was also a pure poet.

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-He was inspired

-by the land, sea and weather.

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-Alun was a huge influence on Dic.

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-Alun would take me

-to the front room or Siberia.

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-It resembled Siberia too,

-but that's where we went.

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-He didn't give formal lessons,

-just conversations.

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-In these conversations,

-cynghanedd occurred.

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-The greatest challenge

-was to spot them.

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-He would say, "Hey, Dic,

-are you sick, my son?"

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-"Hey, Dic, are you sick, my son?"

-You could hear the alliteration.

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-You had to have your wits about you

-and that's how I learnt.

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-Later, T Llew Jones joined us.

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-I progressed even further

-under his wing.

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-That's how it was at Y Cilie.

-There were no formal lessons.

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-"Because the poet wept

-about man's plight

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-"And laughed about one word

-that has the flair

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-"To cut a stroke,

-as song and art unite

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-"As painful the burial,

-so joyful is the fair

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-"Cilie is Wales

-and Wales is Cilie too

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-"Their ebb and flow the same

-the whole world through"

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-Alun Cilie said something

-that I'll never forget.

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-We had been discussing literature.

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-"What's this talk of standards?

-What are these standards?

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-"Man is the one

-to set his own standard."

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-To paraphrase, the standard

-is what man wants to achieve.

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-Competing will raise standards.

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-If you aim to be as good

-as your betters, you'll improve.

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-On the other hand,

-it can lead to a stereotype.

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-You could come first

-in a low-standard competition.

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-Sarnicol composed an epitaph

-for a failed poet.

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-"His crowns came easily in this

-life - eight or nine, maybe more

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-"Should he win one

-on the other side

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-"The competition would be poor"

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-I first competed

-in the Urdd Eisteddfod in 1954.

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-I think I'd started

-writing cynghanedd.

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-I wrote an ode in free verse.

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-It was a rhyming ode.

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-I was lucky

-because the standard was low.

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-Of that there is no doubt.

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-When I look back

-at the poem now...

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-..it doesn't match the standard

-of the Urdd Eisteddfod today.

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-However, I won other competitions...

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-..the englyn - a four-line

-strict-metre stanza...

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-..a cywydd - a short

-strict-metre ode...

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-..and a telyneg - a lyrical poem.

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-Tegryn Davies reckoned

-that I deserved the chair...

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-..because of my winning cywydd

-and despite my ode in free verse!

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-I couldn't see his logic,

-but it encouraged me.

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-Dic won four consecutive chairs

-at the Urdd Eisteddfod.

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-It was an amazing feat

-for a young poet.

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-His odes were unbeatable.

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-Nobody could match his skill

-in the Urdd competitions.

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-His feat certainly inspired me.

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-I remember the Urdd Eisteddfod

-in Caernarfon.

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-My father asked Richard Jones...

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-..to autograph a copy

-of the award-winning ode.

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-He obliged, of course.

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-My father brought it home for me,

-aware of my admiration for this man.

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-He was a hero of mine

-and it made my day.

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-At Aberavon in 1966, Dic Jones

-won the National Eisteddfod chair.

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-The name of the bard

-honoured today is...

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-..Dic Jones.

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-When I realized

-the subject was Harvest...

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-..my first thought was to write

-about the traditional harvest...

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-..about threshing day

-as I remembered it.

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-I felt I should write about it

-before it was erased from memory.

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-"A hen comes to the granary stairs

-and trots towards the door

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-"Seeking scraps of grain

-from overflowing sacks

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-"The dogs, after a frenzied feast,

-still catch the scent of rats"

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-That poem has never

-seen the light of day.

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-That's all I intended to do.

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-From that point, it progressed

-to describe the granary...

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-..the corn and the cattle.

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-Before I knew it,

-I could see it all coming together.

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-When it was finished...

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-..I invited T Llew Jones,

-Alun and Jac Alun to the house.

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-I told them to sit down

-and I read the poem to Alun.

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-"Well, well. Well done," he said.

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-"I hear the sound of dibs!"

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-Alun was my great uncle.

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-When someone asked his opinion

-on a poem...

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-..if it was a good one, he'd say

-"I hear the sound of dibs."

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-It meant that an award

-was in the offing.

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-"Son," he said, "you haven't

-mentioned Thanksgiving."

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-I told him

-that I had written something.

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-It resembled a hymn

-in the form of a cywydd.

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-It made the ode too long

-for the competition.

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-"Then discard some of it,"

-he said - so I did!

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-I removed about 50 lines

-to make room for the new pieces.

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-In those days, the ode

-was restricted to 200 lines.

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-Writing certain lines

-gave me a thrill.

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-Even now, I can still remember

-some lines coming to me.

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-I can tell you within a yard

-where I was when the lines came.

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-As I crossed the hedge

-from Parc Y Ffog to the road...

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-..I was struck by the words

-wheat and whiten.

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-"Whiten the wheat

-to keep us living"

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-That's how the ode ended.

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-I remember sowing seeds

-on the pasture.

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-I was giving thanks

-for the harvest...

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-.."forever, above the old home"

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-The word "gwehelyth", meaning

-lineage, was stuck in my head.

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-For alliteration, I had to mutate

-the word for lineage.

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-"Forever, above the old home..."

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-I wanted a line

-linking sunshine and lineage.

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-"Gwehelyth" is a masculine noun

-in Welsh, so lineage won't work.

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-Suddenly,

-a cywydd by Waldo inspired me.

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-He had used the word "gwehelyth"

-as a feminine noun.

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-The feminine mutation gave me

-the alliteration I desired...

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-..so I looked at the line again.

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-"Forever, about the old home,

-the sun shines on their lineage"

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-I still remember the buzz

-that I felt.

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-I can tell you precisely

-where I was standing.

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-"While mankind exists,

-so will farming

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-"And ancient lineage ever succeeding

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-"While winter exists,

-so will harvesting

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-"Beasts will live

-while they keep dying

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-"Fertility lasting

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-"While the sun and dew

-whiten the wheat to keep us living"

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-Dic had come close to winning the

-National Eisteddfod chair before.

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-The subject was The Harvest.

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-It was the ideal subject for Dic.

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-The letter arrived.

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-I opened it and was in total shock.

-I couldn't believe it.

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-Dic was delighted.

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-He came in, opened the post

-and banged the table, "Yes!"

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-Sian said that I'd hit the table

-so hard, the sugar basin toppled.

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-Well, I just couldn't believe it.

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-Cynan was the Archdruid at the time

-and he sent a very amiable letter.

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-He congratulated me on my victory.

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-I was asked to keep it a secret...

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-..and to be present in Aberavon

-on the Thursday afternoon.

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-In my response to Cynan,

-I wrote this.

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-"I will be there

-on Thursday afternoon.

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-"That's my answer.

-Bet your shirt on it.

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-"My mouth will remain shut

-for all eternity if necessary."

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-That was my response to Cynan.

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-We three adjudicators

-are of the opinion...

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-..that Bryn Coed's

-lucid and excellent ode...

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-..has achieved an Eisteddfodic feat

-at Aberavon this year.

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-I'll never forget the feeling

-of standing up in the pavilion.

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-The pavilion was full.

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-The searchlights bounced off

-faces in the audience.

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-Everyone turned around

-and there was a sea of faces.

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-I felt as if I was standing

-in a field of corn.

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-All of this was happening around me.

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-It's the best memory

-that I have of the ceremony.

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-After this week, one might wonder...

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-..whether young men in Ceredigion

-do anything except write poetry!

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-Once you win an Eisteddfod chair...

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-..you immediately become eligible...

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-..to judge baby shows

-or to open dog shows.

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-You are viewed as an expert

-in any field.

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-Tydfor and I were invited

-to judge a disco dancing contest!

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-We'd never seen

-strobe lighting before.

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-We opened the door,

-took one look and left!

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-That's what happens

-when you become well-known in Wales.

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-I recall a time when I had won

-a few chairs locally, nothing major.

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-It was a time when we all went

-to nearby farms...

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-..to help out with haymaking

-or the potato harvest.

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-I was at Esgair with Wil Yr Esgair.

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-We were enjoying our midday snack

-after digging up potatoes.

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-Someone shouted, "You did well

-to win the chair in Aberporth."

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-I thanked him

-and then Wil turned to me.

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-To this day, I can hear him asking,

-"Where does it come from?"

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-It is quite odd, isn't it?

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-Why are some people gifted?

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-It's not a talent,

-but an appreciation of words.

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-Where does it come from?

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-Personally, I need inspiration...

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-..which often comes

-from a set subject.

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-However, a pattern of words

-occasionally springs to mind.

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-This lyrical pattern of words...

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-..leads to further phrases

-and eventually to a concept.

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-It's a mechanical process.

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-In the early years,

-I knew he composed on his tractor.

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-If the tractor was stationary,

-I knew what was happening.

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-When Dic was immersed

-in composition...

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-..he could and would

-shut the world out.

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-When he received a task

-for a poetry contest...

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-..he'd be there in body,

-but not in spirit.

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-To be honest, in the early years,

-I wouldn't offer my opinion.

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-That changed over time.

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-I think it's especially true

-of the later years...

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-..during his time

-with Talwrn Y Beirdd.

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-When he had tasks

-for Talwrn Y Beirdd...

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-..they had to be good enough

-to impress Gerallt.

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-Dic regarded Gerallt as a god,

-the god of poetry.

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-Dic tried every task, despite being

-in a team of experienced poets...

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-..but Dic had to try them all.

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-Excellent work by Gwilym Fychan.

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-Next, Idris Reynolds.

-Are you a cricketer, Idris?

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-LAUGHTER

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-The popular radio series

-Talwrn Y Beirdd...

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-..brought Dic's voice

-into homes all over Wales.

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-Dic was an avid competitor

-before joining Gerallt Lloyd Owen...

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-..to keep score

-and to pull a few legs!

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-Both teams are ready,

-Bro Ddyfi and Crannog.

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-"Bro Ddyfi, there's no doubt

-Are the best poets hereabouts.

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-"Crannog are more photogenic

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-"But there's very little in it!"

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-Despite his undisputed talent...

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-..modesty often forced him

-to doubt himself.

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-When I complete an englyn,

-I am often amazed...

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-..that I was lucky enough

-to find that rhyme.

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-How can you explain it?

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-If not for that key factor,

-the verse would fail.

0:23:340:23:40

-It's beyond my mechanical input.

0:23:400:23:45

-It's beyond that.

0:23:450:23:47

-As Wil Yr Esgair said,

-"Where does it come from?"

0:23:470:23:51

-I often ponder that question.

0:23:510:23:54

-The contents of any poem depend

-on your mood when you write it.

0:23:570:24:03

-The way I feel today,

-I couldn't write humorous verses.

0:24:040:24:09

-However, I could compose

-more profound poems.

0:24:110:24:15

-As I mentioned,

-it does depend on the mood.

0:24:150:24:20

-It may be natural for a young bard

-to write about happier subjects.

0:24:200:24:26

-Maybe the young tend to compose

-upbeat verse. I don't know.

0:24:260:24:31

-The initial inspiration for my poems

-comes from my community.

0:24:330:24:38

-That doesn't mean the message

-isn't appreciated further afield.

0:24:380:24:44

-It's said that I won

-my first chair...

0:24:440:24:50

-..because I was the last

-of the country poets.

0:24:500:24:56

-It may be true.

0:24:570:24:59

-It isn't that standards have risen,

-but circumstances have changed.

0:24:590:25:03

-If I was 18 now,

-I would be heading for university.

0:25:030:25:09

-It wouldn't make me

-any better or worse...

0:25:100:25:12

-..but I could no longer

-be regarded as a country poet.

0:25:130:25:17

-In truth, a country poet

-lacks definition these days.

0:25:190:25:24

-Dic is considered

-the last of our country poets.

0:25:260:25:30

-A poet of his own square mile,

-but he was more than that.

0:25:300:25:34

-In his work, he expresses

-strong views on world affairs.

0:25:350:25:39

-He also had a clear view

-of the nature of poetry.

0:25:390:25:45

-It's a skill.

0:25:460:25:48

-When a man builds a stone wall...

0:25:480:25:50

-..he chooses a stone

-and sets it in place.

0:25:510:25:55

-If it isn't suitable,

-he chooses another.

0:25:550:25:58

-I choose another word

-if it isn't apt...

0:25:590:26:01

-..if it lacks

-the correct consonant or rhyme.

0:26:010:26:05

-Skills must be honed.

0:26:060:26:09

-This is how I see it.

0:26:100:26:11

-99% of the time,

-a skilled person is an artisan.

0:26:120:26:16

-For that other 1%, he's an artist.

0:26:160:26:21

-I know I'm an artisan,

-but I doubt that I'm an artist.

0:26:220:26:27

-In the early 1980s,

-Dic's close friend Tydfor...

0:26:320:26:37

-..died in a tractor accident.

0:26:370:26:39

-He recorded his loss

-by writing an eulogy.

0:26:410:26:45

-"Laughter is a rare thing tonight,

-quite a bit rarer, boy

0:26:490:26:53

-"We're filled with the pain of your

-fall and the sting of sudden shock"

0:26:540:26:58

-It was a real comfort.

0:27:010:27:02

-I hadn't realized

-that he knew Tydfor so well.

0:27:020:27:07

-He knew his inner soul.

-He knew him very, very well.

0:27:070:27:11

-This is just how he was.

0:27:110:27:14

-I see more now and I see

-the real Tydfor in this piece.

0:27:140:27:20

-One couplet springs to mind...

0:27:200:27:24

-..when I recall

-Tydfor's funeral and his coffin.

0:27:250:27:29

-"Summer does not bring the flowers

-on the day that the coffin closes"

0:27:290:27:34

-He experienced another great loss...

0:27:420:27:45

-..with the death of Esyllt,

-the twin of his son, Trystan.

0:27:450:27:50

-She passed away

-aged only three months.

0:27:500:27:53

-When the little girl was born,

-I knew she wasn't right.

0:27:560:28:02

-I feel ashamed of that to this day.

0:28:020:28:06

-I looked at her in the bed

-and I knew she wasn't right.

0:28:070:28:10

-I didn't know what it was,

-but something was wrong.

0:28:110:28:17

-I felt like...

0:28:170:28:19

-..a cow leaving its dead calf

-and walking away.

0:28:200:28:25

-I'm so ashamed of that feeling,

-but it's true.

0:28:250:28:29

-I knew instinctively.

0:28:300:28:31

-The little girl

-had a hole in her heart...

0:28:310:28:35

-..she had Down's syndrome...

0:28:350:28:37

-..and there were

-a number of other complications.

0:28:370:28:40

-She lived for about three months...

0:28:410:28:44

-..and then, she passed away.

0:28:440:28:48

-I'm ashamed to admit

-and I'm embarrassed to say this...

0:28:500:28:55

-..but I feel that Esyllt...

0:28:550:28:59

-..did us a favour by dying.

0:29:000:29:03

-She would have needed a lot of care.

0:29:050:29:08

-We would have had to decide

-whether to bring her home or not.

0:29:080:29:12

-By the time she was to have been

-discharged from hospital...

0:29:120:29:18

-..she had died.

0:29:190:29:21

-She took that decision for me.

0:29:210:29:23

-Thoughts such as that

-still make me shudder.

0:29:250:29:30

-The undertaker arrived.

0:29:400:29:43

-He had a small box,

-no bigger than a shoe box.

0:29:450:29:49

-The minister, James Henry Jones,

-met us at the crematorium.

0:29:500:29:55

-I have fond memories of James Henry.

0:29:560:29:59

-James placed the small coffin

-under my arm.

0:30:000:30:05

-After some time,

-we were given the ashes.

0:30:060:30:09

-I didn't know what to do with them.

0:30:100:30:12

-I gathered the children and

-told them that I had Esyllt's ashes.

0:30:140:30:20

-I told them all to take a handful...

0:30:210:30:23

-..and scatter it where they wanted.

0:30:230:30:25

-That's what we did.

0:30:260:30:27

-One went to a flower bed,

-one to a tree, another to a hedge.

0:30:270:30:32

-They all remember

-where they scattered Esyllt's ashes.

0:30:320:30:36

-"The fun in our jobs is forgotten

0:30:490:30:52

-"Our lives are but something

-to get through

0:30:530:30:57

-"After summer, winter always comes

0:30:570:30:59

-"Why do I keep hoping?

0:31:000:31:03

-"Ahead, though I know not where

0:31:050:31:08

-"Is a beautiful, glittering cloud

0:31:090:31:12

-"Above the mist and the dark sky

0:31:140:31:17

-"A piece of the sun,

-yonder somewhere"

0:31:170:31:21

-At the time, I was a dairy farmer.

0:31:250:31:28

-In the milking parlour,

-there was a pulsator.

0:31:280:31:34

-Tick, tock, tick, tock...

0:31:340:31:36

-"Over the waves is a pleasant land

0:31:360:31:39

-"Where the laments do not linger"

0:31:400:31:43

-It was an inspiration,

-working to the rhythm of cynghanedd.

0:31:430:31:49

-I was able to express my emotions

-and feelings about my daughter.

0:31:490:31:55

-When I finished the poems...

0:31:570:32:00

-..I didn't know

-what to do with them.

0:32:010:32:03

-Was it right for me

-to publish these poems...

0:32:040:32:09

-..and make a literary benefit

-from the death of this little girl?

0:32:090:32:15

-Somehow, news of them leaked.

-I'm not sure how.

0:32:170:32:20

-Wait, Gerallt Lloyd Owen saw them.

0:32:200:32:25

-They are englynion in the main...

0:32:260:32:28

-..that show the country poet...

0:32:290:32:33

-..and the country poet's function

-at its best.

0:32:340:32:39

-He has composed something

-deeply personal...

0:32:400:32:43

-..which at the same time

-elevates a country poet's role...

0:32:430:32:47

-..to heights reached by very few

-anywhere in the artistic world.

0:32:470:32:52

-Let me quote the final

-immortal words.

0:32:520:32:55

-"Humanity is measured

-by its ability to weep"

0:32:570:33:02

-It's written in Welsh

-and in cynghanedd.

0:33:020:33:06

-Only Welsh-speakers

-have encountered this line...

0:33:060:33:10

-..but it's so relevant.

0:33:100:33:13

-It embodies a truth

-that applies anywhere in the world.

0:33:130:33:17

-"Humanity is measured

-by its ability to weep"

0:33:170:33:20

-I had many letters

-from various places.

0:33:230:33:26

-People were aware

-of what I was saying...

0:33:260:33:29

-..and that the poems

-had comforted them.

0:33:290:33:31

-I was able to justify what I'd done.

0:33:320:33:36

-I believe that...

0:33:360:33:40

-Other than parts of certain odes...

0:33:410:33:45

-..it's the poem

-that excited me most.

0:33:460:33:50

-Not while writing it,

-but after completing it.

0:33:500:33:54

-As I mentioned earlier,

-I knew that I'd succeeded there.

0:33:540:33:58

-.

0:34:090:34:10

-888

0:34:130:34:13

-888

-

-888

0:34:130:34:15

-Competing and winning

-isn't always a bed of roses.

0:34:340:34:37

-You can lose

-when you deserve to win...

0:34:380:34:41

-..or, more often,

-win when you deserve to lose.

0:34:410:34:45

-Aberavon and Cardigan

-mark high and low points.

0:34:470:34:52

-At the 1976 National Eisteddfod

-in Cardigan...

0:34:550:35:00

-..Dic Jones was a member

-of the literary committee.

0:35:000:35:03

-In breach of the rules at the time,

-he competed for the chair.

0:35:030:35:08

-Two odes came to the forefront.

0:35:090:35:11

-As adjudicators,

-we agree that both odes...

0:35:110:35:16

-..are worthy

-of the National Eisteddfod chair.

0:35:170:35:23

-As adjudicators,

-we also agree unanimously...

0:35:250:35:30

-..that Rhos-y-Gadair...

0:35:310:35:33

-..submitted the best poem

-in the competition.

0:35:330:35:37

-Thank you.

0:35:370:35:38

-Dic Jones was Rhos-y-Gadair.

0:35:410:35:44

-However...

0:35:440:35:46

-Rhos-y-Gadair has broken

-one of the competition's rules.

0:35:460:35:52

-He now acknowledges the fact.

0:35:580:36:02

-We must therefore proceed...

0:36:030:36:06

-..to chair the other

-worthy competitor, Y Tyst o'r Tir.

0:36:060:36:12

-Chief Bard Alan Llwyd

-deserved to take the chair home.

0:36:150:36:19

-Dic had seized his chance

-to pay tribute to his bardic tutor.

0:36:200:36:25

-Is there peace?

0:36:250:36:28

-Is there peace?

-

-Peace!

0:36:280:36:29

-Alun Cilie had been appointed

-as an adjudicator.

0:36:300:36:34

-If he had presided,

-I wouldn't have competed.

0:36:350:36:38

-However, Alun died...

0:36:390:36:41

-..and Y Gwanwyn became

-my tribute to him.

0:36:410:36:45

-Y Gwanwyn followed on

-from Y Cynhaeaf.

0:36:450:36:50

-The idea was to write a poem

-to the months after the harvest.

0:36:510:36:56

-As the writing progressed...

0:36:570:37:00

-..I could see parallels

-with the ode Y Cynhaeaf.

0:37:000:37:06

-The experiences I had encountered

-in writing Y Cynhaeaf returned.

0:37:070:37:12

-There were a few thrills

-when verses struck a chord.

0:37:120:37:17

-I remember completing one,

-possibly in the same field...

0:37:170:37:21

-..where the line about

-sunshine and lineage came to me!

0:37:210:37:25

-Here's Y Cynhaeaf.

0:37:250:37:27

-"While mankind exists,

-so will farming

0:37:270:37:29

-"An ancient lineage ever succeeding

0:37:300:37:32

-"While winter exists,

-so will harvesting

0:37:320:37:35

-"Beasts will live

-while they keep dying

0:37:350:37:37

-"Fertility lasting

-while the sun and dew

0:37:370:37:40

-"Whiten the wheat

-to keep us living"

0:37:400:37:42

-The new poem

-continued along those lines.

0:37:420:37:46

-"While chicks are hatched

-to a cock and hen

0:37:460:37:49

-"Faith will not be extinguished

0:37:490:37:51

-"A restless man

-will follow the furrow

0:37:510:37:54

-"His plough glistening

-among the clay

0:37:540:37:56

-"Spring and birth

-will last an eternity

0:37:570:37:59

-"And the mountain rains

-will wash the rocks"

0:37:590:38:03

-It was a drama, a real drama.

0:38:040:38:07

-I broke the rules,

-but not the spirit of the rules.

0:38:070:38:13

-Even if I had chosen

-the adjudicators and the subject...

0:38:150:38:19

-..the poem still had to be written.

0:38:190:38:22

-I wrote the poem.

-That is what matters.

0:38:220:38:24

-There are ten years

-between Y Cynhaeaf and Y Gwanwyn...

0:38:240:38:28

-..but ultimately, every poet

-focuses on one theme.

0:38:290:38:34

-The subjects vary,

-but there is one main theme.

0:38:360:38:39

-Dic's theme was the life cycle.

0:38:400:38:43

-He refers to the harvest

-in the famous ode.

0:38:440:38:47

-"I will go to make

-the life cycle whole

0:38:480:38:50

-"To sow as the meadow

-becomes green"

0:38:500:38:54

-The life cycle

-is an image of life...

0:38:550:38:58

-..as a rotating circle, eternal

-and continually progressing.

0:38:590:39:04

-Y Gwanwyn is my favourite

-Welsh poem.

0:39:050:39:08

-I know parts of it by heart.

0:39:080:39:11

-It has something extra.

0:39:110:39:13

-It gives me a buzz, a thrill.

0:39:130:39:16

-There's a surge of energy

-that permeates the poem...

0:39:160:39:21

-..like a breath of spring air.

0:39:210:39:25

-There's a feeling of rejuvenation

-or even rebirth.

0:39:250:39:30

-It really is an uplifting concept.

0:39:300:39:33

-"While an old family

-harvests its fruits

0:39:410:39:44

-"And its lineage's crops

-seed its fields

0:39:450:39:49

-"While birds come in pairs

-to the trees

0:39:500:39:52

-"While a ram grazes,

-while hooves exist

0:39:520:39:56

-"The spring of springs

0:39:570:39:59

-"Will open its store of treasures

-through the ages

0:39:590:40:04

-"While chicks are hatched

-to a cock and hen

0:40:050:40:09

-"Faith will not be extinguished

0:40:090:40:13

-"A restless man

-will follow the furrow

0:40:130:40:16

-"His plough glistening

-among the clay

0:40:160:40:20

-"Spring and birth

-will last an eternity

0:40:210:40:25

-"And the mountain rains

-will wash the rocks"

0:40:260:40:31

-In 1997, I was at the Eagles Inn

-in Llanuwchllyn...

0:40:350:40:39

-..the day after I had been chaired.

0:40:400:40:42

-I had won with an ode

-that maybe contradicted Dic's odes.

0:40:420:40:48

-It depicts a more cruel aspect

-of agriculture and rural life.

0:40:480:40:53

-Dic's odes promote farming,

-celebrating it as a way of life.

0:40:550:41:00

-Dic sat beside me,

-leaned over and stared at me.

0:41:010:41:07

-He congratulated me and said...

0:41:080:41:11

-.."I was right in 1966 and 1976...

0:41:120:41:17

-"..but you are right today."

0:41:170:41:19

-I suspect that was his way

-of praising me.

0:41:200:41:24

-Having said that,

-he wrote a cywydd for me.

0:41:250:41:29

-I treasure that cywydd

-as much as anything else.

0:41:290:41:32

-The cywydd shows

-that everything has two sides.

0:41:330:41:38

-"Spring has two faces

-that no-one can separate

0:41:390:41:43

-"They are an eternal dowry

-that arrive much like fate

0:41:440:41:49

-"I always see the sunny side.

-Ceri's feat is to see the pain"

0:41:500:41:56

-I don't class myself as a bard,

-but maybe a poet.

0:41:590:42:05

-I admire the young people

-and their ideas.

0:42:050:42:10

-They have a touch of genius.

0:42:100:42:13

-I often think

-of Harold Wilson's words.

0:42:130:42:16

-I'm one of "yesterday's men" now.

0:42:160:42:19

-However, I'm willing

-to be regarded as a poet.

0:42:190:42:23

-In my experience, as Isfoel put it,

-words call to each other.

0:42:230:42:29

-I string words together...

0:42:300:42:32

-.working with sounds,

-alliteration and rhymes.

0:42:320:42:37

-My poems stem from words.

0:42:370:42:39

-Poets now start with a concept,

-and I respect them enormously.

0:42:400:42:46

-I admire them,

-but don't understand their system.

0:42:460:42:50

-I understand my system.

0:42:500:42:52

-I'll complete the task

-of the Archdruid on his behalf...

0:42:570:43:01

-..by announcing that the set subject

-was The Dawn.

0:43:010:43:05

-Words were important to Dic.

0:43:060:43:08

-He was a renowned adjudicator.

0:43:090:43:12

-His polished performances

-while adjudicating were astounding.

0:43:120:43:18

-Dic spoke without any notes

-to prompt him.

0:43:190:43:22

-This is where he excels.

0:43:220:43:24

-"There with his own father

0:43:240:43:27

-"One happy morning, the youngster

-goes with his spade to the shore

0:43:270:43:31

-"To create with coarse sand"

0:43:310:43:34

-He was an avid columnist

-for Golwg magazine...

0:43:350:43:38

-..creating poems

-about current affairs.

0:43:380:43:42

-In 2008, having passed

-the promised age...

0:43:460:43:50

-..Dic yr Hendre was ordained

-as Archdruid.

0:43:500:43:54

-I may be lucky

-to have been born...

0:43:550:43:59

-..at the end of the era

-of the horse...

0:44:000:44:03

-..and the start

-of the era of the tractor.

0:44:030:44:06

-It was also the end

-of the country poet tradition.

0:44:060:44:11

-I was in the right place

-at the right time.

0:44:120:44:15

-To an extent, the same is true

-of the way I was elected Archdruid.

0:44:150:44:21

-No farmer had held the post before.

0:44:220:44:26

-It's a touch of romance to the lives

-of farmers and Archdruids alike.

0:44:260:44:31

-They have progressed

-from being establishment figures.

0:44:310:44:37

-An ordinary farmer

-can become Archdruid now!

0:44:380:44:42

-The factor that worked in my favour

-when I won my first chair...

0:44:420:44:46

-..is still working in my favour.

0:44:460:44:49

-At the proclamation ceremony

-of Bala National Eisteddfod...

0:44:490:44:54

-..Dic was ordained as Archdruid.

0:44:540:44:57

-He considered the role to be

-the greatest honour of his life.

0:44:570:45:02

-However, he could only preside

-as Archdruid at one Eisteddfod...

0:45:070:45:12

-..as he was struck down

-by a fatal illness.

0:45:120:45:14

-He was a man who cherished his home.

0:45:260:45:30

-He appreciated all the invitations

-to deliver after dinner speeches.

0:45:310:45:36

-He relished bardic contests

-such as Talwrn Y Beirdd.

0:45:370:45:40

-Following any event,

-he always returned home.

0:45:410:45:44

-He regarded Yr Hendre

-as the place to be.

0:45:440:45:46

-He was very proud of his children,

-but he never showed it.

0:45:520:45:57

-One of them asked me recently...

0:45:570:46:00

-.."Did I do anything

-that made Dad proud of me?"

0:46:000:46:03

-I happen to know that Dic was very

-proud of that child's achievements.

0:46:040:46:10

-Dic regarded his grandchildren

-as a wondrous gift.

0:46:110:46:16

-He saw a future where his legacy

-would continue in these children.

0:46:160:46:22

-I hope that a couple of them,

-as they seem to show real promise...

0:46:230:46:27

-..will follow in Dic's footsteps

-in terms of writing.

0:46:280:46:33

-As a family,

-it meant a great deal to us...

0:46:390:46:44

-..that he was able

-to come home to die.

0:46:450:46:49

-I don't know if you can say

-such a thing...

0:46:500:46:53

-..but I know

-that he was glad to be here.

0:46:530:46:58

-"The grave inspires a longing

-in us all

0:47:100:47:14

-"For the ability to return

0:47:140:47:16

-"Now, art makes that possible

0:47:170:47:19

-"A poet whose song

-comes from the soil

0:47:190:47:22

-"In our language, your two odes

-are stacks of the finest wheat

0:47:230:47:27

-"While we remember you, the door

-to your store of words never closes"

0:47:280:47:33

-I still maintain

-that it's a great honour...

0:47:420:47:46

-..to be awarded a chair

-at the National Eisteddfod.

0:47:460:47:50

-A financial prize

-is always appreciated...

0:47:500:47:53

-..just as in any other eisteddfod.

0:47:530:47:55

-However, no award can compare...

0:47:550:48:00

-..with the satisfaction

-of nailing a poem.

0:48:000:48:05

-Success - got it!

0:48:050:48:07

-It's the ultimate prize.

0:48:070:48:10

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