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-"Magnificent towns and cities

-which lie beneath the sea

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-"Listened to the peal of bells

-at dusk in harmony

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-"Through negligent abandon

-by a watchman on the site

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-"The bells of Cantre'r Gwaelod

-were silenced one dark night"

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-This is Aberarth beach.

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-This is the beautiful beach

-of my childhood.

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-I spent many hours here.

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-In truth,

-maybe I spent years on this beach.

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-It has so many historic connections.

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-Ever time I hear

-the Cantre'r Gwaelod poem...

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-..it's like a key

-unlocking my Aberarth.

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-The Aberarth I've carried with me,

-in my imagination and my heart...

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-..over the years.

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-This is where we'd spend

-our summer holidays as children.

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-The school holidays.

-We'd spend our days here.

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-Shrimping. Prawning.

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-If we were ambitious,

-we'd go lobstering.

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-We'd search for periwinkles.

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-I remember we'd come down

-as families from the village.

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-We'd sit on the beach

-under the sweltering sun.

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-There was a plentiful supply of wood

-to build a bonfire.

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-We'd boil a kettle and families

-would gather together for a picnic.

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-It was a social beach.

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-People would flock here.

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-Looking back at our upbringing

-with Mam and Dad...

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-..Dad was often away from home

-working as a ship's carpenter.

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-As you know, in those days...

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-..you could be at sea for anything

-between a year and 18 months.

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-I remember when Hywel was born,

-Dad was away.

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-Hywel was ten months old before Dad

-saw him for the first time.

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-Myf, we spent a lot of time

-in this little chapel.

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-You started playing the organ

-when you were nine.

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-You played here

-for over half a century.

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-What's your earliest memory?

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-I remember you being baptized there.

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-Reverend Haydn Lewis

-was the minister that day.

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-He was born in Aberaeron.

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-A chief bard.

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-Mam had told him

-that she was terribly nervous.

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-"Don't worry," he said,

-"I think I'm more nervous than you."

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-It was his first baptism.

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-I had a winner right from the start!

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-I had a winner right from the start!

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-He started off well.

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-He had a heavyweight, anyway!

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-How much did I weigh

-when I was baptized?

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-You were ten pounds at birth.

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-I don't know how much you weighed

-when you were baptized.

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-That was my brains.

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-I have a clear recollection

-of people singing around the piano.

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-I can remember one night -

-I must have been quite young.

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-We were in our pyjamas

-on a Saturday night...

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-..after having a bath

-ready for Sunday.

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-You were playing the piano...

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-..you, me and Ken, of course -

-our elder brother.

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-We were singing Duw Wyr Yr Adfyd.

-Do you remember that?

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-I remember that clearly.

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-I remember that clearly.

-

-After the bath!

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-After our weekly scrubbing.

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-I remember that clearly.

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-Later, Alice was born.

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-You know how we loved singing.

-She ended up playing the organ too.

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-We're aware now that this little

-chapel is likely to close soon.

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-It's the last connection

-to our village...

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-..to our generation

-and the people who lived around us.

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-It's that sort of culture

-that left its stamp on us.

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-It's ending here.

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-I find that very hard to accept.

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-No-one can change the situation -

-it carries on regardless.

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-Huckleberry Finn

-had the Mississippi.

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-The people of New York

-have the Brooklyn Bridge.

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-In Aberarth, we have the River Arth

-and the footbridge.

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-That's enough.

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-The river level is high this morning.

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-What I remember

-are the wonderful summers...

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-..when the river level was low.

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-We'd go down to "swmpo" fish.

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-In other parts of Wales,

-they call it tickling fish...

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-..but "swmpo" was our word...

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-..and we'd paddle

-when the river was low.

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-As well as that, we'd snare the fish

-from the riverbank.

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-A hazel rod with plenty of whip.

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-Tie an umbrella steel to the rod.

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-Get some horse hair from

-the McLaren brothers in Bryn Dewi.

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-We'd make a snare out of the hair.

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-We'd tie the snare

-to the umbrella steel.

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-We'd open it up, put one end through

-and you could snare from the bank.

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-When you saw the snare

-in front of its nose...

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-..the fish would get restless

-and you'd back off.

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-Finally, you'd get the snare

-behind its gills.

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-A 2lb sewin could be caught

-in that way.

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-The Mississippi

-has nothing on the Arth.

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-Tegwyn, it's been 60 years since

-I first stood on Banc-y-Darren.

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-Aberarth's first match...

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-..in the Aberystwyth and District

-Junior League.

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-We played Trefeurig.

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-We won 7-0.

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-I was 14.

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-I remember the date -

-25th September, 1948.

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-You were slightly younger.

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-Were you here for the match?

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-Certainly. I don't think I've missed

-any match played on this pitch.

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-There's no reason

-to think I wasn't here.

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-They've all

-been telescoped together now.

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-Certainly, I was here.

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-Saturday would become

-a very social day.

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-It wasn't just about the match.

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-I lived down in the village,

-in the valley.

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-A bus would ferry us to Aberystwyth

-if we wanted to go...

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-..on Saturdays and Mondays.

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-Apart from that, we were isolated.

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-We didn't have a car -

-hardly anyone had a car.

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-Suddenly, a team was formed...

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-..and every other Saturday,

-we'd visit some esoteric places.

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-Pontrhydfendigaid,

-Ponthrhydygroes and Llanilar!

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-We would visit these towns

-with the football team.

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-Without the football team...

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-..I wouldn't have known

-so much about the county.

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-I remember one match -

-I think we played Goginan.

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-It was a fine day. We were playing

-with the old leather ball.

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-Our winger was racing

-down the wing...

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-..but the fullback

-reached the ball before him...

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-..and kicked it with some force.

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-Think of a cannonball

-in the Crimean War.

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-It hit our winger

-in his nether regions...

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-..and he went down like

-a ton of bricks, writhing in pain.

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-Dai, the trainer,

-ran on to the pitch in a shot.

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-All he had was a sponge.

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-What was he going to do with that?

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-He was tending to this poor dab

-on the ground with his sponge.

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-I remember our winger

-pleading with Dai...

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-.."Dear God, Dai,

-don't play with them, count them!"

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-We had so many stories like that...

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-I remember after the war ended...

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-..a lot of singers,

-most singers in Ceredigion...

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-..would come to our house

-to rehearse before the eisteddfodau.

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-My sister, Myf,

-was a very good accompanist.

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-I listened to these singers

-singing their solos.

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-I remember standing

-on a huge rock near Craig Ddu...

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-..trying to sing Brad Dynrafon

-like Wat Mynachdy Bach.

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-# On Dynrafon rock

-above the waves #

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-I still remember it today.

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-I would come here to sing the solos

-that I loved so much.

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-At the same time,

-or slightly earlier...

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-..when I was in the sixth form

-in Aberaeron...

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-..after speaking Welsh

-for over 15 years...

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-..suddenly I realized

-how splendid a language it was.

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-In the sixth form,

-I read the poems of T Gwynn Jones...

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-..mesmerized by Ymadawiad Arthur.

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-Reading Gwenallt's Ysgubau'r Awen.

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-Learning all the sonnets in a night.

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-I was greatly influenced

-by T H Parry-Williams's poetry.

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-I'd come down here

-and walk along the beach.

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-I'd learn the poems...

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-..and recite them loudly

-as I walked.

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-If people would have heard me,

-I'd have been locked up.

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-To me, this place echoes that time.

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-The seagulls flying above me...

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-..would screech, I believed,

-their appreciation and applause.

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-Out there, in the depths...

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-..seals would raise their nostrils

-to the sky in wonder.

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-Even to this day...

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-..I'm sure that's the most

-cultured audience I've ever had.

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-The seagulls and the seals...

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-..on this stretch of beach

-that leads to Craig Ddu.

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-Aberystwyth University

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-Fifty-five years have passed

-since I attended this college...

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-..back in the autumn of 1953.

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-I was a fresh-faced, innocent student

-from Llanddewi, Aberarth.

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-My digs were in Myrddin,

-in Rheidol Terrace.

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-Near the harbour, near the sea.

-I had to be near the sea.

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-The first few weeks

-were rather strange.

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-I wouldn't say

-it was "hiraeth" - a deep longing.

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-That sounds too intense but I had a

-feeling I wasn't in the right place.

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-I used to go down to the station...

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-..just to see a Crosville bus

-with the word Aberaeron on it...

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-..just to know

-there was a bus to Aberarth.

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-Soon, I started playing soccer

-for the college team.

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-That changed things completely.

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-Since then, I have a special place

-in my heart for Crosville buses.

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-Blaengarw

-Bridgend

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-This is Ysgol Gynradd Gymraeg

-Cwm Garw nowadays

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-It's the old Garw Grammar School.

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-This is where I started teaching

-back in 1959.

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-My wife, Aerona, and her brother,

-David, were pupils here.

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-Aerona was born

-just up the avenue behind me.

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-It's strange to think...

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-..that there are 250 Welsh speakers

-in the school now.

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-During the time I taught

-in Garw Grammar School...

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-..I only taught six children

-who could speak Welsh.

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-There was not need to question

-the nationality of Garw children...

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-..Welsh speaking or not.

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-They were Welsh in terms

-of their instinct and nature.

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-There were many strong characters

-here among the staff and children.

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-I was so happy here.

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-I'm so glad I lived

-in a South Wales Valley...

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-..during the heyday

-of the coal industry.

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-1959.

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-An old friend from college,

-a year older than me...

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-..started teaching in Bridgend.

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-Moc - William Morgan Rogers.

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-We'd meet up.

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-I lodged in Bryn Llidiard

-with Betty and Bill Parry.

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-We'd meet up during the week

-in the Six Bells and play darts.

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-This was a lovely old pub.

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-If I had Bill Gates's money...

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-..I'd buy a pub in every

-Welsh village from north to south.

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-I'd make sure

-they were run by Welsh people.

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-Most of the time,

-I'd hope for Welsh speakers...

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-..but I would never close the door

-on non-Welsh speakers.

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-There'd be a dartboard in the bar,

-an old piano...

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-..and nothing else.

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-I'm a great believer

-in singing in pubs.

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-Creating such pubs across Wales...

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-..would create centres for

-lively socializing and relaxation.

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-A good pub

-creates a good atmosphere.

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-A person goes home

-on better terms with himself...

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-..believing he lives

-in a better world.

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-This is your old chapel.

-This is where you were raised.

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-The Tabernacle Chapel in Blaengarw.

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-Here, if you can remember,

-is where we got married.

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-I bet you don't remember the date.

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-I had to tell you earlier.

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-26th July, 1960.

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-Well done.

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-People said

-it was an unusual wedding.

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-The bride turned up

-a full hour before the groom...

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-..in case she missed the match!

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-I think that's true.

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-There was no minister here

-at the time.

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-Reverend Wyndham Rees

-from Bethania Independent Chapel...

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-..was the minister

-on our wedding day.

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-That was a sure sign

-it could become a tempestuous union.

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-We were uniting

-a Methodist and a Baptist.

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-It's lasted to this day.

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-We are proud of one connection

-we have with the chapel.

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-It's a connection that continues.

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-The organ that was once played

-in this chapel is now owned by Huw.

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-It's up in London.

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-It's played in his home there.

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-No.24 Bryn Llidiard.

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-This is where we started

-our married life...

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-..back in 1960.

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-We lived here when Huw was born...

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-..down in the hospital

-in Bridgend...

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-..on the 18th of August 1961.

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-Here, in this house,

-if you happen to remember...

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-..Meinir was born

-on the 8th of September 1963.

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-You must remember that.

-I thought so.

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-We were very happy in Bryn Llidiard.

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-Aerona and I, Huw and Meinir

-moved to Llangennech in 1965.

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-We came down one Sunday afternoon

-from the outskirts of Bridgend.

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-We had friends who'd lived

-opposite us and moved down here.

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-We went down to visit them.

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-I was about to start working

-in Swansea University...

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-..in the old

-Extra-Mural Studies Department.

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-I knew I had to find a home

-somewhere in this area.

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-We came here

-and we've been here ever since.

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-As far as I'm concerned,

-I don't think we'll ever leave.

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-I'm a village man. I'd be at a loss

-in a town let alone a city.

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-I'm a village man.

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-I like nosy people, people

-who want to know all about you.

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-Part of the fun

-of living in a village...

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-..is spreading a rumour

-early in the morning...

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-..and by dusk, it's become an epic.

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-God knows what will have happened

-or who will be in the story.

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-It's so entertaining.

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-One thing surprised me...

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-..as a man who had no interest

-in horses whatsoever.

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-I would go down

-on a Saturday morning...

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-..to the Old Bridge Inn for a pint.

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-The bar would resemble

-a Quakers' meeting.

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-Not a word was spoken.

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-Everyone reading their papers -

-studying the form.

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-A bookies had opened

-across the road.

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-If you had something to say,

-you'd have to whisper.

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-I remember one of the experts, one

-of the lads who understood horses...

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-..my old friend Raymond,

-he'd bring a Timeform with him.

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-A book with a shiny black cover...

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-..and the word Timeform

-in white on the cover.

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-That book recorded everything

-anyone needed to know about horses...

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-..including the latest form.

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-They called that book...

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-..Llyfr y Datguddiad - the Book

-of Revelation!

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-Llangennech was a lively place...

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-..hosting various events

-and activities.

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-It's not as lively now

-as it once was. So much has changed.

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-The story is the same across Wales.

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-The sense of community

-is slowly dying.

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-People don't meet socially.

-The culture has changed so much.

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-Creating village spirit

-is a huge challenge nowadays.

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-I had the chance

-to see it in action.

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-When I worked in the

-Extra-Mural Department in Swansea...

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-..I organized classes

-in Llanelli and Swansea...

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-..but I also went down

-to the Gwendraeth Valley.

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-I went up the Swansea Valley,

-to places such as Cwmllynfell.

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-The community spirit could be seen

-in all its glory there.

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-I look back at that time...

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-..and feel privileged that I was

-able to organize those meetings.

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-The work spanned

-a quarter of a century.

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-They all turned to him like a lion

-and the lion was quick on the draw.

0:21:230:21:27

-He's not a man of the ivory tower.

0:21:290:21:31

-Yes, he spends long hours...

0:21:310:21:33

-..studying and writing...

0:21:340:21:36

-..put people see the benefit...

0:21:360:21:40

-..because he's so willing

-to contribute by lecturing.

0:21:400:21:44

-He visits all sorts of societies

-such as Merched y Wawr...

0:21:450:21:49

-..and small church groups

-in remote locations.

0:21:490:21:53

-I ask him sometimes, "Why do you

-do that in the depths of winter?"

0:21:530:21:57

-"I enjoy it," he replies,

-"They deserve it."

0:21:580:22:01

-They benefit from his contribution.

0:22:010:22:05

-You could enter

-the Palace of Eros...

0:22:080:22:12

-..to see Fatima belly dancing.

0:22:140:22:16

-That's what they should have

-in eisteddfodau.

0:22:190:22:22

-He's an accomplished lecturer.

0:22:230:22:27

-I'm hoping he'll pay me

-for saying this!

0:22:270:22:30

-He's the best lecturer we have

-in Wales at the present time.

0:22:300:22:36

-You're compelled to listen to him.

-He has so much enthusiasm.

0:22:380:22:42

-His interpretation is convincing.

0:22:420:22:45

-He can express himself

-so easily and eloquently.

0:22:460:22:50

-The English aren't our problem

-in terms of the Welsh language.

0:22:500:22:55

-We are the problem. Us, up here.

0:22:550:22:59

-It's a psychological problem.

0:22:590:23:02

-Why do we lack confidence?

-We can speak two languages.

0:23:030:23:06

-Think back to that period...

0:23:060:23:08

-He's a giant of a man.

0:23:090:23:11

-He's also unique

-in the way he talks.

0:23:110:23:14

-I had a cancer scare in 1970.

0:23:220:23:25

-Well, how old was I in 1970?

0:23:270:23:29

-1970 - I was 36.

0:23:290:23:32

-Huw and Meinir were still young...

0:23:330:23:36

-..during that time.

0:23:360:23:38

-I didn't take illness seriously

-at that age.

0:23:380:23:41

-I was very healthy.

0:23:420:23:44

-I was enjoying life.

0:23:450:23:48

-I was still playing football.

0:23:480:23:50

-I liked to think I was still young.

0:23:520:23:54

-Then, suddenly, I came

-face to face with that word.

0:23:550:23:58

-It was nothing more

-than a word to me.

0:23:580:24:01

-The word cancer...

0:24:010:24:04

-..suddenly it became a reality

-of flesh and blood and mind.

0:24:040:24:09

-I was lucky.

0:24:110:24:12

-Aerona knew far more than me

-about these matters.

0:24:130:24:16

-She understands.

0:24:160:24:18

-She can discuss issues wisely.

0:24:190:24:22

-I didn't want to know.

0:24:220:24:24

-When the doctors and surgeons

-spoke to me, I didn't want to know.

0:24:240:24:28

-"I know it's there.

0:24:280:24:29

-"I have every faith

-in your ability to get rid of it.

0:24:300:24:33

-"The only thing that matters to me

-is helping you with your work.

0:24:330:24:37

-"I don't want to know

-anything else."

0:24:370:24:40

-In reality, I was just being a

-coward. I was hiding behind Aerona.

0:24:400:24:44

-And then, one way or another...

0:24:450:24:48

-..I came through it.

0:24:540:24:57

-.

0:24:590:25:00

-888

0:25:040:25:04

-888

-

-888

0:25:040:25:06

-I moved to the Welsh Department

-in Swansea University...

0:25:100:25:14

-..in the 1988-89 term.

0:25:150:25:18

-It was no different to what I'd

-been doing with my evening classes.

0:25:190:25:24

-One tried to ignite some interest

-and hoped to get a response.

0:25:240:25:29

-I also wanted them to read

-and appreciate Welsh literature.

0:25:290:25:33

-I remember Hywel Teifi Edwards

-walking in...

0:25:330:25:38

-..and the presence he had,

-the charisma...

0:25:380:25:42

-..almost an aura around him...

0:25:430:25:47

-..it sounds dramatic

-but that's how it felt at the time.

0:25:470:25:51

-He started to speak and

-he didn't have any notes with him.

0:25:510:25:55

-I always remember that.

0:25:550:25:57

-He'd never arrive carrying a file

-or pieces of paper.

0:25:570:26:00

-It didn't mean he hadn't prepared

-but it all came from the heart.

0:26:010:26:05

-The theatre was full of students

-at 9.00am on Friday morning.

0:26:050:26:11

-I'm sure Thursday night

-was student night in Ritzy's.

0:26:120:26:15

-It was quite an achievement

-to get so many students there.

0:26:160:26:20

-It felt as though he was performing

-for us.

0:26:200:26:23

-Hywel is one of the people

-who has a special licence...

0:26:230:26:28

-..in the way he does

-and says things.

0:26:280:26:31

-No-one else

-would dare do it like him.

0:26:310:26:34

-He can put his closest friends

-in their place.

0:26:340:26:39

-I know that from experience.

0:26:400:26:42

-When he disagrees, he disagrees...

0:26:420:26:46

-..to such an extent,

-he sometimes makes me feel...

0:26:460:26:51

-..that I have no right

-to argue my case.

0:26:510:26:54

-He has such strong views

-on certain matters.

0:26:550:26:58

-Once he's raised his glasses

-to his forehead...

0:26:580:27:01

-..and looked you straight in the

-eye, you know you've crossed him.

0:27:010:27:05

-To be honest,

-I'm not sure what to say...

0:27:060:27:09

-..in response to that.

0:27:090:27:11

-I've never thought of myself

-as someone who's so outspoken.

0:27:120:27:18

-If he thinks his view is right,

-he sticks to his guns.

0:27:180:27:23

-I don't suppose

-that's such a bad thing.

0:27:230:27:26

-You could never accuse him

-of agreeing with the consensus.

0:27:280:27:31

-I'm naturally impatient

-and I accept that.

0:27:320:27:36

-I'm impossibly impatient at times.

0:27:370:27:40

-That might make some people think

-that I'm some kind of steamroller.

0:27:400:27:45

-I would accept that.

0:27:450:27:47

-If I have something to say

-and I really want to say it...

0:27:480:27:51

-..there's no need to mince words...

0:27:520:27:54

-..or beat around the bush.

0:27:550:27:58

-In other words, it's better to be

-as clear and concise as you can...

0:27:580:28:03

-..so that everyone understands.

0:28:030:28:05

-It works in reverse too. I'd expect

-an equally clear and concise answer.

0:28:050:28:09

-Sometimes,

-he can be very sharp-tongued...

0:28:100:28:13

-..but he's also a man with

-a lot of kindness and a big heart.

0:28:130:28:18

-If there was a suitable Welsh word

-for "softie"...

0:28:180:28:22

-..that's the word I'd use for Hywel.

0:28:220:28:25

-Deep down, he's a real softie.

0:28:260:28:28

-All in all, I'd describe myself...

0:28:280:28:31

-..as someone who takes

-great care in what he says.

0:28:310:28:36

-At least that's what I think.

0:28:380:28:40

-He's the same when he's writing.

0:28:400:28:43

-He expresses his views

-about the world and its ways.

0:28:440:28:48

-Sometimes, maybe I make statements...

0:28:490:28:54

-..that are likely

-to rattle a few cages...

0:28:540:28:59

-..or at least illicit a response.

0:28:590:29:01

-In contemporary Wales...

0:29:020:29:03

-..no-one has any idea who or how

-many people read what is written.

0:29:040:29:09

-To be honest, it might be better...

0:29:090:29:12

-..if we didn't know the answer

-to that question.

0:29:120:29:15

-We'll just continue writing

-in the hope...

0:29:160:29:19

-..that there is an audience

-out there...

0:29:190:29:22

-..and that the audience will,

-some day, grow.

0:29:220:29:25

-I don't see anything wrong

-with expressing one's views.

0:29:250:29:29

-If someone says something

-that's misleading...

0:29:290:29:33

-..he lives in the hope that someone

-will stand up and disagree with him.

0:29:330:29:38

-What is culture, after all?

-It's a knot of tensions.

0:29:380:29:42

-Culture is worthless

-without tension and debate...

0:29:420:29:47

-..and people being over-critical

-when expressing their views.

0:29:470:29:51

-I support that.

0:29:510:29:53

-In 1988...

0:29:550:29:56

-..Barddas published an anthology

-of 19th-century Welsh poetry.

0:29:560:30:01

-Bobi Jones was its editor.

0:30:020:30:05

-I reviewed it for Barn.

0:30:050:30:09

-I didn't think the anthology

-was a fair reflection...

0:30:090:30:13

-..of the way I saw

-19th-century Welsh poetry.

0:30:140:30:17

-There was a lively debate

-in subsequent editions of Barn.

0:30:170:30:21

-Bobi Jones is a fighter,

-he's a strong believer.

0:30:210:30:26

-He's a fundamentalist -

-he has a very clear viewpoint.

0:30:260:30:31

-I often dismiss his views but I'm

-glad he's ready to express them.

0:30:310:30:35

-People like that

-illicit a response within a culture.

0:30:360:30:40

-They can excite people

-and rouse them into action.

0:30:400:30:43

-I enjoyed that very much.

0:30:440:30:45

-I think both of us have followed

-the National Eisteddfod...

0:30:540:30:58

-..for nigh on 60 years.

0:30:590:31:01

-I'd like to highlight one thing.

0:31:010:31:03

-Having had a keen interest

-in the Eisteddfod for many years...

0:31:030:31:07

-..and then become

-a member of the Gorsedd...

0:31:070:31:10

-..it dawned on me how indebted

-we are to the Gorsedd of Bards.

0:31:110:31:15

-That's the establishment

-that proclaimed way back in 1888...

0:31:150:31:21

-..that the official language

-of the Eisteddfod was Welsh.

0:31:210:31:26

-It came at a time

-when Welsh was frowned upon.

0:31:260:31:29

-The Gorsedd secured the Welshness

-of the Eisteddfod.

0:31:290:31:32

-However much people poke fun

-at the Gorsedd...

0:31:320:31:37

-..and some are very cynical of it...

0:31:370:31:40

-..and deride it

-at every opportunity...

0:31:400:31:43

-..we owe them a debt of gratitude.

0:31:430:31:45

-The contemporary Eisteddfod is

-extremely indebted to the Gorsedd.

0:31:470:31:52

-That's true enough.

0:31:520:31:54

-During that time, people were

-ashamed of the Gorsedd of Bards.

0:31:550:32:01

-It was believed that the Gorsedd

-made Welsh people a laughing stock.

0:32:010:32:08

-Those old boys stuck to their guns.

0:32:080:32:11

-Brits such as Sir John Morris Jones

-attacked the institution...

0:32:110:32:15

-..even though he was prepared

-to stand on the Eisteddfod stage.

0:32:150:32:20

-These people were proud

-of their Welsh heritage.

0:32:200:32:24

-They didn't care who mocked them.

0:32:240:32:27

-People mock the Eisteddfod

-but they still enjoy the ceremonies.

0:32:270:32:31

-There isn't a legitimate culture

-without some kind of ceremony.

0:32:310:32:36

-I remember asking Gwenallt

-if I could so some research.

0:32:440:32:48

-I wanted to research

-the life of Emrys ap Iwan.

0:32:480:32:52

-He replied, "No."

0:32:520:32:54

-He asked me a question and he knew

-the answer before asking it.

0:32:540:32:59

-"Can you speak French?"

0:32:590:33:01

-As if everyone from Aberarth

-could speak French.

0:33:010:33:05

-I said, "No, not a word, Gwenallt.

0:33:050:33:07

-"I never attended a French lesson

-in Aberaeron, not one."

0:33:070:33:11

-"Oh, well,

-if you can't speak French...

0:33:130:33:15

-"..you can't research

-Emrys ap Iwan."

0:33:160:33:18

-Before I knew what was happening...

0:33:180:33:22

-..he'd asked me to research the life

-of William Williams, Creuddynfab.

0:33:220:33:28

-William Williams Creuddynfab

-had been appointed...

0:33:280:33:33

-..as the first paid secretary

-of the National Eisteddfod...

0:33:330:33:38

-..during the first ten years

-of the Eisteddfod...

0:33:380:33:43

-..between Llangollen 1858

-and Ruthin 1868.

0:33:430:33:47

-I started researching that period.

0:33:470:33:50

-I knew nothing of the early period

-of the National Eisteddfod.

0:33:500:33:54

-I soon found out that very few

-people knew anything about it.

0:33:540:33:59

-The National Eisteddfod

-unlocked that period for me...

0:33:590:34:03

-..certain aspects of Wales

-during the Victorian Age.

0:34:030:34:07

-I knew nothing of them previously.

0:34:070:34:10

-It was a very exciting period.

0:34:100:34:12

-I was surprised to learn

-how quickly the Eisteddfod...

0:34:130:34:18

-..turned into an institution

-to anglicize Wales.

0:34:180:34:22

-I recall the life

-of David Davies, Llandinam.

0:34:220:34:26

-He didn't speak a lot of English

-but he'd amassed a large fortune.

0:34:260:34:31

-He came down from Llandinam...

0:34:310:34:33

-..to the Eisteddfod stage

-in Aberystwyth in 1865.

0:34:330:34:36

-The pavilion was full of Cardis.

0:34:370:34:39

-How many of those

-could speak English?

0:34:400:34:43

-He said, "If you want to eat brown

-bread for the rest of your life...

0:34:430:34:48

-"..speak Welsh.

0:34:480:34:50

-"If you want to eat white bread,

-speak English!"

0:34:500:34:53

-He takes stock of the Welsh psyche

-during that period...

0:34:540:35:00

-..and shows how we have inherited

-the Victorian attitudes of the time.

0:35:000:35:06

-Not all of them

-are positive attitudes.

0:35:070:35:11

-That's when it all started.

0:35:120:35:14

-From that interest, the first

-substantial volume was published...

0:35:140:35:18

-..Gwyl Gwalia - the history

-of the National Eisteddfod...

0:35:190:35:22

-..during the golden age of Victoria.

0:35:220:35:25

-By the time it was published...

0:35:250:35:27

-..in terms of Welsh life

-in the Victorian Age, I was hooked.

0:35:270:35:31

-There are two buildings,

-built during the Victorian Age...

0:35:470:35:51

-..two iconic buildings.

0:35:510:35:53

-I would have loved

-to have performed in both.

0:35:530:35:56

-One was the Crystal Palace, built

-for the Great Exhibition in 1851.

0:35:560:36:01

-It burnt down so I have no hope

-of performing there.

0:36:010:36:04

-This is the second one.

0:36:050:36:06

-In my imagination,

-I've sung here many times.

0:36:060:36:09

-This is the first time

-I've set foot in this building.

0:36:090:36:14

-It's like reaching

-an English Valhalla.

0:36:140:36:17

-You have sung here.

0:36:170:36:19

-What can you tell me

-about that experience?

0:36:190:36:23

-I'd dreamt of performing here

-for years.

0:36:230:36:26

-I'd seen it so many times

-on the television.

0:36:260:36:29

-The first time I was here,

-I realized how vast it actually was.

0:36:290:36:35

-Coming here as a solo artist...

0:36:350:36:38

-..I was in a small room at the back

-with no light.

0:36:380:36:42

-I walked under the seats

-and out onto the stage.

0:36:420:36:46

-It opens up in front of you.

0:36:460:36:49

-It's like walking out

-into the Coliseum.

0:36:490:36:52

-The audience were all around me.

-It was a remarkable experience.

0:36:520:36:57

-The father of the tenors,

-metaphorically speaking...

0:36:570:37:00

-..the father of the tenors in Wales

-is Robert Rees, Eos Morlais.

0:37:000:37:04

-He performed here in 1887.

0:37:050:37:08

-This is where the National

-Eisteddfod was held in 1887...

0:37:080:37:12

-..to commemorate

-Victoria's Golden Jubilee.

0:37:120:37:15

-It was held here.

0:37:160:37:18

-There's a wonderful story -

-the Prince of Wales turned up.

0:37:180:37:23

-Everything was ready for him.

-There were 12 harps on stage.

0:37:230:37:27

-Pencerdd Gwalia was in charge.

-A choir was in attendance.

0:37:270:37:31

-Robert Rees, Eos Morlais,

-sang God Bless The Prince Of Wales.

0:37:320:37:37

-This majestic venue

-was packed to the rafters.

0:37:370:37:41

-Eos Morlais and the choir finished

-the song and everyone sat down.

0:37:410:37:46

-Eos stood once more

-to sing Hen Wlad Fy Nhadau.

0:37:460:37:50

-Someone had neglected

-to tell the Prince what to do.

0:37:500:37:54

-He didn't understand.

0:37:540:37:56

-According to the story,

-he stood to sing Hen Wlad Fy Nhadau.

0:37:560:38:01

-From that moment onwards...

0:38:020:38:04

-..Hen Wlad Fy Nhadau

-was adopted as the National Anthem.

0:38:050:38:08

-# Gwlad, gwlad

0:38:090:38:14

-# Pleidiol wyf i'm gwlad #

0:38:140:38:21

-LOUD CHEER

0:38:470:38:49

-I've arrived.

0:38:490:38:51

-Temple of the Arsenal.

0:38:580:39:00

-I've been an Arsenal fan

-for 60 years. Sixty years!

0:39:010:39:04

-Dear me.

0:39:050:39:07

-Marvellous.

0:39:080:39:10

-Marvellous.

0:39:110:39:13

-This is slightly better

-than Trefeurig's pitch.

0:39:150:39:19

-The initial interest

-came from the author of this book.

0:39:200:39:24

-Wally Barnes, Arsenal and Wales

-captain. Here's his autobiography.

0:39:250:39:30

-Captain of Wales.

0:39:300:39:32

-He captained Wales in 1948.

0:39:320:39:37

-That's when my love affair started.

0:39:370:39:40

-I think it's true

-for anyone who supports a club.

0:39:400:39:45

-Every time

-I see Arsenal on the box...

0:39:460:39:48

-..I'll imagine being here in the

-changing rooms before they come out.

0:39:490:39:53

-Fantastic.

0:39:530:39:55

-Incredible.

0:39:570:39:59

-I think of the Aberarth team

-back in the day.

0:40:000:40:03

-At the end of the 1940s.

0:40:050:40:06

-If you were lucky, you'd get

-a cold bath after the match.

0:40:070:40:11

-I had the same love for the game.

0:40:110:40:14

-I loved it as much then as I do now.

0:40:140:40:17

-It meant just as much to us.

0:40:170:40:19

-It's so wonderful

-when you can visit places like this.

0:40:190:40:23

-This is the pinnacle

-of a man's love for the game.

0:40:230:40:29

-Excellent.

0:40:300:40:31

-I'm a very lucky man today.

0:40:310:40:33

-Very lucky.

0:40:340:40:35

-Yes.

0:40:370:40:38

-.

0:40:410:40:42

-888

0:40:440:40:44

-888

-

-888

0:40:440:40:46

-I've walked along this path

-many times, over to Bynea.

0:40:590:41:02

-Hundreds of times by now.

0:41:030:41:05

-Every time I walk along here...

0:41:060:41:08

-..I feel so glad that we moved

-to live in Llangennech.

0:41:080:41:13

-When I'm surrounded

-by this natural beauty...

0:41:130:41:16

-..which is often

-taken for granted...

0:41:170:41:21

-..I sometimes stop to ponder

-and think about my life here...

0:41:210:41:25

-..and how my roots have been planted

-in such a beautiful world.

0:41:250:41:30

-To me, as a Welshman, it awakens

-a sense of responsibility.

0:41:310:41:36

-I had the privilege of doing

-some work on a local level...

0:41:360:41:42

-..as a councillor some years ago.

0:41:420:41:44

-Everyone can do a little -

-everyone has a contribution to make.

0:41:450:41:49

-In a village,

-one comes to realize that.

0:41:490:41:52

-Then I was dragged in -

-I can't remember which year it was.

0:41:540:41:58

-I stood for Parliament in Llanelli.

0:41:580:42:03

-A that time, there was

-an old stereotype in Llanelli.

0:42:030:42:08

-They didn't count Labour's votes,

-they weighed them.

0:42:080:42:13

-The main election

-was the one fought in 1987.

0:42:130:42:17

-To cut a long story short,

-I stood for election.

0:42:180:42:22

-A by-election was due and

-the campaign would be quite short.

0:42:220:42:26

-The campaign continued

-for three years.

0:42:260:42:29

-By the time it ended...

0:42:290:42:31

-..I was six inches shorter

-than I was at the start.

0:42:310:42:34

-I tramped through every nook

-and cranny in Carmarthenshire.

0:42:340:42:38

-When the General Election

-was held in 1987...

0:42:380:42:41

-..Plaid Cymru was swamped

-in the raging battle...

0:42:410:42:45

-..between Labour and Thatcherism.

0:42:450:42:47

-Rod Richards represented

-Thatcherism - an excellent choice.

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-Alan Williams represented Labour.

0:42:520:42:55

-I think Alan

-recorded the highest vote...

0:42:550:42:58

-..in the history

-of the Carmarthen constituency.

0:42:580:43:02

-He galloped past the winning post.

0:43:020:43:06

-Rod Richards,

-representing the Tories, was second.

0:43:060:43:10

-I was third, covered in bruises.

0:43:100:43:12

-They're still on my back today.

0:43:130:43:15

-Instinctively,

-I don't like losing...

0:43:150:43:18

-..but more than anything else...

0:43:180:43:21

-..I didn't want to lose the election

-for Plaid Cymru...

0:43:210:43:25

-..and for what the party

-represented for Wales.

0:43:250:43:29

-I remember telling him...

0:43:300:43:32

-..however wonderful it would be...

0:43:320:43:35

-..for him to win the seat

-for Plaid Cymru...

0:43:350:43:38

-..I was hoping he'd lose.

0:43:390:43:41

-I felt it would be such a waste

-of his knowledge and talent...

0:43:430:43:49

-..if he became

-a Member of Parliament.

0:43:490:43:52

-You have to remember

-that during this period...

0:43:520:43:56

-..the Welsh lived

-under the shadow of the Blue Books.

0:43:560:44:00

-So I returned...

0:44:000:44:02

-..to something I feel

-is just as important as politics.

0:44:020:44:07

-I returned to telling people

-about their history as a nation.

0:44:080:44:12

-They weren't published

-by the press...

0:44:130:44:15

-..they were published

-by the British Government...

0:44:160:44:19

-..the world's largest Empire.

0:44:200:44:22

-The report was published

-within the blue imperial covers.

0:44:220:44:26

-The Treachery of the Blue Books.

0:44:270:44:29

-I don't think any nation can be...

0:44:290:44:32

-..psychologically and culturally

-healthy unless it knows its story.

0:44:320:44:37

-We realized, "Well, if the English

-look down their noses at us..."

0:44:370:44:43

-Do you recall

-how Lord Tonypandy would bleat...

0:44:430:44:47

-.."What will they think of us?"

0:44:470:44:50

-That's not the question.

0:44:510:44:53

-For any nation that wants

-a long and healthy life...

0:44:530:44:57

-..what do we think of ourselves

-is the question.

0:44:570:45:00

-Learning about our literature...

0:45:010:45:04

-..as far as I'm concerned...

0:45:040:45:06

-..has a huge part to play

-in our response to that question.

0:45:060:45:10

-I think it was Dafydd Rowlands

-who struck a definitive chord...

0:45:140:45:20

-..when he paid tribute

-to Hywel once.

0:45:200:45:23

-He compared Hywel

-to the River Teifi.

0:45:230:45:27

-It's a smooth river

-that flows lyrically and gently.

0:45:270:45:31

-Suddenly,

-it reaches a certain point...

0:45:320:45:35

-..where it becomes

-agitated and excited...

0:45:350:45:38

-..and a danger to

-the feeble coracles on the surface.

0:45:380:45:42

-I think it's a great description

-of Hywel.

0:45:420:45:45

-He can be smooth and lyrical...

0:45:450:45:48

-..but can sometimes be a danger

-to the coracles that cross his path.

0:45:490:45:53

-It drives me wild

-when I listen to Welsh people...

0:45:550:45:58

-..who care little

-about the language.

0:45:580:46:01

-They don't value it at all.

0:46:010:46:03

-Not just their own language,

-but language full-stop.

0:46:030:46:07

-That bothers me greatly.

0:46:070:46:09

-We're living through a period...

0:46:090:46:12

-..when language and expression

-are being devalued.

0:46:120:46:16

-Language is the most amazing

-of man's creations...

0:46:160:46:20

-..created with the help of women!

0:46:200:46:23

-There is nothing without language.

0:46:230:46:26

-I refuse to forecast the future.

0:46:290:46:31

-I remember a quote by Gwenallt.

0:46:330:46:35

-I've repeated it many times

-when addressing societies.

0:46:350:46:39

-It was a wise adage.

0:46:390:46:41

-I asked him, "What do you think

-will happen to the Welsh language?"

0:46:420:46:46

-He stayed silent for a while

-as he walked around.

0:46:470:46:50

-Finally, he replied...

0:46:500:46:52

-.."It doesn't bode well."

0:46:550:46:57

-Then, like a shot, he added...

0:46:570:47:00

-.."But there you are, it's not

-our job to predict its future.

0:47:000:47:06

-"It's our job to live its future."

0:47:070:47:10

-I've never forgotten that.

0:47:120:47:14

-It's as sound a piece of advice

-as any other.

0:47:140:47:17

-Who knows how the human race

-will develop.

0:47:190:47:23

-The only thing one can do

-during his time on earth...

0:47:240:47:27

-..is hope he can present or convey

-some sort of appreciation...

0:47:280:47:32

-..of the culture that created him...

0:47:320:47:36

-..and why he believes

-that culture deserves to exist.

0:47:360:47:40

-It doesn't deserve to exist

-unless it's ready to adapt.

0:47:410:47:45

-It can't stand still.

0:47:460:47:47

-That's not the same

-as surrendering it.

0:47:480:47:50

-I'm entirely convinced

-that people don't die away.

0:47:530:47:56

-I'm a firm believer in that.

0:47:570:47:58

-Wars are lost, a nation can be

-trampled by their enemy for a time.

0:47:580:48:03

-They can be oppressed,

-they can suffer...

0:48:030:48:06

-..but a nation doesn't die

-until they surrender their history.

0:48:060:48:11

-Once they surrender their history...

0:48:110:48:14

-..believing they can live

-within someone else's history...

0:48:140:48:20

-..once that happens,

-it becomes assimilated.

0:48:200:48:24

-That's why the idea of keeping

-the history of Welsh alive...

0:48:260:48:30

-..and getting people interested

-in its history...

0:48:300:48:33

-..to me,

-it's the most important idea of all.

0:48:330:48:36

-Like that. I won't say any more

-or I'll start to cry.

0:48:370:48:41

-I'm a village man

-and I'll die a village man.

0:48:490:48:52

-I was born in a seaside village.

0:48:520:48:54

-That's where I came from.

0:48:570:48:59

-For better or worse.

0:49:000:49:01

-That's where my roots are.

0:49:040:49:06

-Aberarth is an old, old village.

0:49:060:49:08

-It's been a Welsh village...

0:49:100:49:12

-..for centuries.

0:49:130:49:15

-It's difficult trying to come

-to terms with that, I must admit.

0:49:150:49:20

-I'd be surprised if the chapel

-survived into next year.

0:49:210:49:25

-I don't see any future for it

-at the moment.

0:49:250:49:28

-If it closes, the heart of the old

-village will have been ripped out.

0:49:280:49:34

-There will be nothing left there -

-only houses.

0:49:340:49:38

-There's a part of me here today...

0:49:410:49:44

-..that wants to do something

-as foolish and futile...

0:49:440:49:47

-..as protest against time.

0:49:480:49:50

-That's the type of feeling

-I have inside me today...

0:49:500:49:53

-..as yesterday is returned to me

-in all its glory.

0:49:530:49:56

-You can look out to the sea

-and see the waves crashing in.

0:49:570:50:00

-You remember the old saying...

0:50:010:50:03

-..the tide comes in

-and the tide goes out.

0:50:030:50:06

-They're just words, a stereotype.

0:50:060:50:09

-Sitting here today,

-those words ring true.

0:50:090:50:12

-That's precisely what life is -

-the tide coming and going out.

0:50:120:50:16

-It takes away some things

-you wish you could keep.

0:50:170:50:20

-Here, today, the tide has brought in

-many things which are very pleasant.

0:50:200:50:26

-I suppose that I should be grateful

-to that tide.

0:50:260:50:30

-I should thank the tide for reminding

-me today...

0:50:300:50:35

-..of things that are very much alive.

0:50:350:50:38

-"Ring out, bells of my childhood,

-deep beneath the sea

0:50:430:50:48

-"The peal of bells awakens

-fond memories for me

0:50:480:50:51

-"On starry nights, along the shore

0:50:520:50:57

-"The bells of Cantre'r Gwaelod

-ring out for evermore"

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