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-The Irish-Welsh connection -is a big deal... | 0:00:06 | 0:00:09 | |
-..not just for my father -but for many Welsh people. | 0:00:09 | 0:00:12 | |
-Wales has an obsession -with the Emerald Isle. | 0:00:13 | 0:00:16 | |
-Perhaps there's -an element of guilt to it... | 0:00:16 | 0:00:19 | |
-..because Irish nationalists -have achieved more than us. | 0:00:19 | 0:00:23 | |
-I'm glad Dylan's joining me -on this journey... | 0:00:23 | 0:00:27 | |
-..because I'm sure -he was fed up of seeing me... | 0:00:27 | 0:00:30 | |
-..poring over books about Ireland... | 0:00:31 | 0:00:33 | |
-..and playing Irish records -from dusk till dawn. | 0:00:34 | 0:00:38 | |
-It's all he heard as a child. | 0:00:38 | 0:00:40 | |
-It's all he heard as a child. - -GUNFIRE | 0:00:40 | 0:00:42 | |
-The 1916 Easter Rising... | 0:00:42 | 0:00:45 | |
-..sparked many years -of bloody battles in Ireland... | 0:00:45 | 0:00:48 | |
-..against British rule. | 0:00:49 | 0:00:51 | |
-We've both -forged careers in broadcasting... | 0:00:53 | 0:00:56 | |
-..but as an author and journalist... | 0:00:57 | 0:00:59 | |
-..getting to the heart of the story -is in Dad's blood. | 0:00:59 | 0:01:03 | |
-The story of the Irish Rebels -has captivated him. | 0:01:03 | 0:01:07 | |
-Our home was a mini Ireland. -It must've rubbed off on Dylan. | 0:01:07 | 0:01:11 | |
-He's interested in the history and I -hope I can teach him more about it. | 0:01:12 | 0:01:16 | |
-Dad first visited Dublin -in 1966... | 0:01:18 | 0:01:21 | |
-..for the Easter Rising's -50th anniversary. | 0:01:21 | 0:01:24 | |
-It's there that he met icons of the -campaign for Irish independence... | 0:01:27 | 0:01:32 | |
-..who were interned at the -Frongoch detention camp near Bala. | 0:01:32 | 0:01:36 | |
-Dublin folk are very special to me. | 0:01:36 | 0:01:40 | |
-I relish every opportunity -to go there. | 0:01:40 | 0:01:43 | |
-What'd be interesting... | 0:01:44 | 0:01:46 | |
-..is finding out what -initially sparked Dad's obsession. | 0:01:46 | 0:01:50 | |
-It'd be nice to hear -why he's so fixated by it... | 0:01:50 | 0:01:53 | |
-..and why he fled to his study to -spend many hours at his typewriter. | 0:01:53 | 0:01:58 | |
-It's engrained in him. -It's part of his character. | 0:01:58 | 0:02:02 | |
-Half a century ago... | 0:02:13 | 0:02:14 | |
-..celebrations were held -to commemorate the Easter Rising... | 0:02:15 | 0:02:19 | |
-..and the battle for independence. | 0:02:20 | 0:02:21 | |
-900 of those 1916 rebels -were there that day. | 0:02:22 | 0:02:25 | |
-Thousands more -witnessed this historic event. | 0:02:25 | 0:02:29 | |
-Half a century later... | 0:02:29 | 0:02:31 | |
-..and memories of the rebellion -are still as vivid. | 0:02:31 | 0:02:35 | |
-The streets of Dublin on Easter -weekend this year were heaving. | 0:02:35 | 0:02:39 | |
-As he did -on his first visit in 1966... | 0:02:41 | 0:02:44 | |
-..this year, Dad celebrated -with the unofficial procession... | 0:02:44 | 0:02:49 | |
-..held a month later. | 0:02:49 | 0:02:51 | |
-This is incredible, -it's so colourful. | 0:02:52 | 0:02:54 | |
-I didn't expect people to dress up. -It's a party. | 0:02:54 | 0:02:57 | |
-It's a big party, and it should be. | 0:02:57 | 0:03:00 | |
-Some say we shouldn't celebrate... | 0:03:00 | 0:03:04 | |
-..but if it happened to us in Wales, -I'd certainly celebrate! | 0:03:04 | 0:03:08 | |
-As John Bwlch-llan'd say, -"It's jolly here!" | 0:03:09 | 0:03:12 | |
-I've heard all the stories about -1966 but there's a serious side too. | 0:03:16 | 0:03:20 | |
-That's when Dad's interest began. | 0:03:21 | 0:03:23 | |
-That's when he discovered... | 0:03:23 | 0:03:25 | |
-..that Frongoch -was part of Ireland's story. | 0:03:25 | 0:03:28 | |
-His obsession started from there. | 0:03:28 | 0:03:31 | |
-His obsession started from there. - -I was in a book shop in Dublin... | 0:03:31 | 0:03:34 | |
-..and the shop owner -heard me speaking Welsh. | 0:03:34 | 0:03:37 | |
-He called me over and said, "That -man there has spent time in Wales." | 0:03:37 | 0:03:42 | |
-He was referring to Joe Clarke, who -had been interned at Frongoch... | 0:03:43 | 0:03:47 | |
-..for six or seven months. | 0:03:47 | 0:03:49 | |
-He'd fought in one of the bloodiest -battles of the Easter Rising. | 0:03:49 | 0:03:55 | |
-Joe became -a very dear friend of mine. | 0:03:55 | 0:03:59 | |
-I thought the world of him. | 0:03:59 | 0:04:01 | |
-He's interested in people. | 0:04:01 | 0:04:04 | |
-They were ordinary folk -back in 1916. | 0:04:04 | 0:04:07 | |
-They were teachers and shopkeepers -who'd decided enough was enough. | 0:04:07 | 0:04:12 | |
-I'm sure -that's part of the appeal too. | 0:04:12 | 0:04:15 | |
-700 years of British rule -had left its mark on Ireland. | 0:04:17 | 0:04:20 | |
-After generations -of being oppressed by the English... | 0:04:21 | 0:04:24 | |
-..came a Catholic middle class, -intent on changing the status quo. | 0:04:25 | 0:04:29 | |
-During the 1900s, Irish culture -enjoyed a renaissance... | 0:04:29 | 0:04:33 | |
-..in its history, language... | 0:04:33 | 0:04:35 | |
-..and sports, and the country -became a hotbed of radicalism. | 0:04:36 | 0:04:40 | |
-Socialist leader James Connolly -led a famous lockout in 1913... | 0:04:40 | 0:04:45 | |
-..in which 20,000 workers went -on strike to demand better rights. | 0:04:45 | 0:04:49 | |
-Calls came for -a measure of home rule for Ireland. | 0:04:49 | 0:04:54 | |
-The idea was to have -a parliament in Dublin... | 0:04:54 | 0:04:57 | |
-..that'd safeguard home affairs... | 0:04:57 | 0:05:00 | |
-..whilst allowing Westminster -to take care of the rest. | 0:05:00 | 0:05:04 | |
-That's what the majority -of Irish nationalists wished for. | 0:05:04 | 0:05:09 | |
-At the outbreak of the First -World War, Irish nationalists... | 0:05:09 | 0:05:13 | |
-..were led to believe... | 0:05:13 | 0:05:15 | |
-..that if they proved themselves -to be good citizens... | 0:05:15 | 0:05:20 | |
-..within the British Empire... | 0:05:20 | 0:05:22 | |
-..then Britain would certainly -grant them home rule for Ireland. | 0:05:22 | 0:05:27 | |
-To ensure their home rule... | 0:05:30 | 0:05:32 | |
-..more than 200,000 Irishmen joined -British troops in the Great War. | 0:05:32 | 0:05:37 | |
-But for radical nationalists, -home rule wouldn't be enough. | 0:05:37 | 0:05:42 | |
-They saw an opportunity to realize -the dream of an Irish Free State... | 0:05:42 | 0:05:47 | |
-..with the slogan, England's -difficulty is Ireland's opportunity. | 0:05:48 | 0:05:53 | |
-The revolt's main figures... | 0:05:53 | 0:05:56 | |
-..were -the Irish Republican Brotherhood... | 0:05:56 | 0:06:00 | |
-..a small, -secret revolutionary movement. | 0:06:00 | 0:06:03 | |
-Other institutions -began forming alliances with them. | 0:06:03 | 0:06:07 | |
-The Irish Volunteers, -the Irish Citizen Army... | 0:06:07 | 0:06:11 | |
-..and Cumann na mBan, -the Women's League. | 0:06:11 | 0:06:14 | |
-All these organisations -believed that using violence... | 0:06:15 | 0:06:19 | |
-..was a way -of ensuring political objectives. | 0:06:19 | 0:06:22 | |
-They were essentially terrorists... | 0:06:22 | 0:06:25 | |
-..though books -refer to them as rebels. | 0:06:25 | 0:06:28 | |
-Dad's very fond of his rebels. | 0:06:28 | 0:06:30 | |
-Society's most colourful characters -- Pete Goginan and Cayo Evans... | 0:06:31 | 0:06:36 | |
-..of the Free Wales Army. | 0:06:36 | 0:06:38 | |
-Meic Stevens'd call by our house. -That didn't happen in other homes! | 0:06:38 | 0:06:42 | |
-But I didn't find it unusual -at the time. | 0:06:43 | 0:06:46 | |
-The fact that those -who were rebelled in 1916... | 0:06:46 | 0:06:50 | |
-..were true rebels -must've greatly appealed to him. | 0:06:50 | 0:06:54 | |
-They were ordinary people -who'd had enough. | 0:06:54 | 0:06:57 | |
-The 1960s -were exciting times for us. | 0:07:01 | 0:07:03 | |
-We did plenty of protesting. | 0:07:03 | 0:07:06 | |
-Plaid Cymru -was on the brink of victory... | 0:07:06 | 0:07:09 | |
-..Cymdeithas yr Iaith -launched its road signs' campaign... | 0:07:09 | 0:07:13 | |
-..and us young people -were defying convention. | 0:07:13 | 0:07:16 | |
-There's no doubt -that our visit to Dublin... | 0:07:16 | 0:07:21 | |
-..charged the batteries -and inspired us. | 0:07:21 | 0:07:25 | |
-Not only from Ireland... | 0:07:25 | 0:07:27 | |
-..but it was important we witnessed -the language struggle... | 0:07:27 | 0:07:31 | |
-..and the struggle for home rule for -Wales in an international context. | 0:07:31 | 0:07:35 | |
-Our visit to Ireland... | 0:07:36 | 0:07:38 | |
-..reminded us that we were -part of something much bigger. | 0:07:38 | 0:07:42 | |
-I went over for the celebration. | 0:07:43 | 0:07:45 | |
-Some call it a commemoration. | 0:07:45 | 0:07:48 | |
-It's a celebration for me, -because, unlike us... | 0:07:48 | 0:07:51 | |
-..the Irish -have something to celebrate. | 0:07:51 | 0:07:54 | |
-The Welsh have always been cowards -and that's how we'll stay. | 0:07:54 | 0:07:58 | |
-There were two processions. | 0:08:02 | 0:08:04 | |
-The official one -and one with the IRA... | 0:08:05 | 0:08:07 | |
-..before the atrocities of the '70s. | 0:08:07 | 0:08:10 | |
-My father was -in the middle of the IRA parade... | 0:08:10 | 0:08:13 | |
-..and many Welsh people disapproved. | 0:08:13 | 0:08:16 | |
-It remains a sensitive issue -to this day, as it was in 1966... | 0:08:16 | 0:08:20 | |
-..whether you're celebrating -or commemorating a bloody chapter. | 0:08:21 | 0:08:25 | |
-In '66, the older generation of -Welsh nationalists trod carefully. | 0:08:26 | 0:08:31 | |
-Since we enthusiastic youths -made heroes of these people... | 0:08:31 | 0:08:36 | |
-..there was hope that Wales -could go in the same direction. | 0:08:37 | 0:08:41 | |
-Looking back, we were -playing with fire, to some extent... | 0:08:41 | 0:08:45 | |
-..because we were commemorating -a military rebellion. | 0:08:46 | 0:08:50 | |
-While Plaid Cymru members -marched with the official parade... | 0:08:50 | 0:08:55 | |
-..we, as the Free Wales Army... | 0:08:56 | 0:08:58 | |
-..joined the unofficial parade -with the IRA. | 0:08:59 | 0:09:02 | |
-We were marching alongside -the heroes who fought in 1916. | 0:09:03 | 0:09:07 | |
-It was incredible. | 0:09:07 | 0:09:09 | |
-I began to hero worship these men. | 0:09:09 | 0:09:12 | |
-For us in Wales, -we had to go all the way back... | 0:09:12 | 0:09:15 | |
-..to Glyndwr and Llywelyn. | 0:09:16 | 0:09:17 | |
-But these men -had fought a battle... | 0:09:18 | 0:09:22 | |
-..just before I was born... | 0:09:22 | 0:09:24 | |
-..and they were still alive. | 0:09:25 | 0:09:27 | |
-Following him around Dublin -is an experience in itself... | 0:09:33 | 0:09:37 | |
-..because you see the main sites -where the revolt took place. | 0:09:37 | 0:09:41 | |
-He'd lead me down alleyways and say, -"Joe Clarke used to live there. | 0:09:42 | 0:09:47 | |
-"This is where the snipers stood." | 0:09:47 | 0:09:49 | |
-There was something of note -on practically every street. | 0:09:50 | 0:09:53 | |
-The rebels' objective... | 0:09:54 | 0:09:56 | |
-..was to control -Dublin's civic centre buildings. | 0:09:56 | 0:10:01 | |
-The rebellion had been planned -for Easter Sunday... | 0:10:01 | 0:10:06 | |
-..but due to a misunderstanding... | 0:10:06 | 0:10:09 | |
-..the head of the Irish Volunteers, -Eoin MacNeill... | 0:10:09 | 0:10:13 | |
-..had ordered everyone -not to take action... | 0:10:13 | 0:10:18 | |
-..in an article in a newspaper. | 0:10:18 | 0:10:21 | |
-There was a lack of clarity... | 0:10:21 | 0:10:24 | |
-..as to -when the revolt would happen. | 0:10:24 | 0:10:27 | |
-On the Monday... | 0:10:27 | 0:10:30 | |
-..only 1,200 rebels showed up, -far less than expected. | 0:10:30 | 0:10:34 | |
-Arrangements were very disorganised. | 0:10:34 | 0:10:37 | |
-It was like any other -national holiday in Dublin. | 0:10:40 | 0:10:43 | |
-The Liffey's docks were quiet, -ships were idle... | 0:10:43 | 0:10:47 | |
-..but throughout the night, -1,200 rebels... | 0:10:47 | 0:10:51 | |
-..put their plans in motion... | 0:10:51 | 0:10:53 | |
-..to seize the -city's municipal buildings. | 0:10:54 | 0:10:57 | |
-Led by James Connolly and -Patrick Pearse, the first rebels... | 0:10:57 | 0:11:02 | |
-..marched into the Post Office. | 0:11:02 | 0:11:04 | |
-The Republicans -held regular parades. | 0:11:04 | 0:11:09 | |
-The British soldiers just thought -it was another ordinary parade... | 0:11:10 | 0:11:14 | |
-..but this time they meant business. | 0:11:14 | 0:11:17 | |
-John McBride -was on his way to a wedding... | 0:11:17 | 0:11:20 | |
-..when he saw the men marching. | 0:11:21 | 0:11:23 | |
-"What's going on?" he said. "We're -rebelling." "I'm coming with you." | 0:11:23 | 0:11:28 | |
-In the city centre, the insurgents -drew nearer to their targets. | 0:11:30 | 0:11:35 | |
-City Hall, Dublin Castle, -Liberty Hall, Four Courts. | 0:11:35 | 0:11:38 | |
-At 12.20pm, the Irish Volunteers... | 0:11:39 | 0:11:42 | |
-..and Citizens' Army -stormed the General Post Office. | 0:11:42 | 0:11:46 | |
-The old Irish notion -of a revolution... | 0:11:49 | 0:11:53 | |
-..meant seizing a building... | 0:11:53 | 0:11:56 | |
-..reinforcing it and occupying it. | 0:11:56 | 0:11:58 | |
-Why did they choose -the General Post Office? | 0:11:59 | 0:12:01 | |
-It's a civic building, -it's strategic... | 0:12:02 | 0:12:05 | |
-..but I think they chose it -as a symbol of Britishness. | 0:12:05 | 0:12:08 | |
-That's why they seized the building. | 0:12:08 | 0:12:12 | |
-The General Post Office served as -their headquarters for the week. | 0:12:13 | 0:12:17 | |
-Shortly after the attack, -Patrick Pearse read out... | 0:12:18 | 0:12:21 | |
-..the Proclamation -of the Irish Republic... | 0:12:21 | 0:12:24 | |
-..signed by himself, James Connolly, -Thomas Clarke, Eamonn Ceannt... | 0:12:24 | 0:12:29 | |
-..Sean MacDiarmada, Thomas -MacDonagh and Joseph Plunkett. | 0:12:29 | 0:12:33 | |
-This was their statement -for an Irish Free State. | 0:12:33 | 0:12:37 | |
-It was obvious -Pearse had written the proclamation. | 0:12:37 | 0:12:41 | |
-You could tell it'd been poetically -written by a literary man. | 0:12:41 | 0:12:46 | |
-He was inducted into the Gorsedd of -the Bards of the Isle of Britain... | 0:12:47 | 0:12:52 | |
-..at the Cardiff Eisteddfod in 1899. | 0:12:52 | 0:12:55 | |
-His bardic name... | 0:12:55 | 0:12:57 | |
-..was Areithydd (Orator). | 0:12:57 | 0:12:59 | |
-On the morning of Easter Monday... | 0:12:59 | 0:13:02 | |
-..he stood on the GPO's steps... | 0:13:02 | 0:13:06 | |
-..to read the proclamation -like a true orator. | 0:13:06 | 0:13:09 | |
-Pearse's speech -was a direct appeal to the heart. | 0:13:10 | 0:13:14 | |
-To him, safeguarding -the culture and language... | 0:13:14 | 0:13:18 | |
-..was as important -as winning political independence. | 0:13:18 | 0:13:21 | |
-Someone who recounts the story to -thousands of visitors each year... | 0:13:21 | 0:13:26 | |
-..is historian Lorcan Collins. | 0:13:26 | 0:13:29 | |
-Alright, comrade? How's it going? | 0:13:29 | 0:13:32 | |
-How are you doing? -You're a dangerous man. | 0:13:32 | 0:13:35 | |
-I'm Dylan. It's nice to meet you. | 0:13:35 | 0:13:37 | |
-I've heard a lot about you. | 0:13:38 | 0:13:40 | |
-I've heard a lot about Mr Lorcan -Collins. He's quite a character. | 0:13:40 | 0:13:44 | |
-After meeting him I understood -why Dad is so fond of him. | 0:13:44 | 0:13:48 | |
-He's a breath of fresh air. | 0:13:48 | 0:13:50 | |
-He's a lovely bloke. -He makes history come alive. | 0:13:51 | 0:13:54 | |
-Many think -there might've been thousands... | 0:13:54 | 0:13:57 | |
-..listening to Pearse -declaring this Republic. | 0:13:57 | 0:14:00 | |
-Really, if 20 or 30 were listening, -that's almost an exaggeration. | 0:14:00 | 0:14:05 | |
-It seems that -there was so much going on... | 0:14:05 | 0:14:08 | |
-..with people building barricades -and windows smashing... | 0:14:08 | 0:14:13 | |
-..that people moved away -halfway through it. | 0:14:13 | 0:14:16 | |
-But it's still a wonderful document -to Irishmen and Irishwomen. | 0:14:16 | 0:14:20 | |
-And that lovely line... | 0:14:20 | 0:14:22 | |
-.."The Republic guarantees -religious and civil liberty... | 0:14:22 | 0:14:26 | |
-"..equal rights and -opportunities to all its citizens." | 0:14:27 | 0:14:30 | |
-It declares its resolve to the -pursuit of happiness and prosperity. | 0:14:31 | 0:14:35 | |
-"Cherishing all the children -of the nation equally." | 0:14:35 | 0:14:39 | |
-That's a very important aspect. | 0:14:39 | 0:14:41 | |
-Patrick Pearse was -one of the most remarkable figures. | 0:14:44 | 0:14:49 | |
-He was a schoolteacher, a poet... | 0:14:49 | 0:14:52 | |
-..a promoter -of the Irish language... | 0:14:52 | 0:14:56 | |
-..and a devout Catholic. | 0:14:57 | 0:14:59 | |
-For him, bloodshed at Easter... | 0:14:59 | 0:15:04 | |
-..gave it important symbolism... | 0:15:04 | 0:15:07 | |
-..and was a means -of resurrecting Ireland... | 0:15:07 | 0:15:10 | |
-..into a new world. | 0:15:11 | 0:15:13 | |
-I don't think it was -Patrick Pearse's intention... | 0:15:13 | 0:15:17 | |
-..to plan a revolution -in a detailed way... | 0:15:18 | 0:15:22 | |
-..so that by the end, they would -wind up in power at Dublin Castle. | 0:15:22 | 0:15:27 | |
-There was something almost -dream-like about his intentions. | 0:15:29 | 0:15:34 | |
-He wasn't fighting -to win a battle... | 0:15:37 | 0:15:40 | |
-..he was fighting -to win on a more symbolic level... | 0:15:40 | 0:15:44 | |
-..so that they would reach the GPO -and announce a statement of intent. | 0:15:45 | 0:15:51 | |
-Here we are, the Republic. | 0:15:51 | 0:15:53 | |
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-Croke Park, Dublin, the spiritual -home of Irish nationalism... | 0:16:07 | 0:16:12 | |
-..and home of -the Gaelic Athletics Association... | 0:16:12 | 0:16:15 | |
-..established 100 years ago -to promote culture... | 0:16:16 | 0:16:19 | |
-..and safeguard traditional sports -such as hurling and Gaelic football. | 0:16:19 | 0:16:24 | |
-GAA and Croke Park -has been an integral part... | 0:16:25 | 0:16:28 | |
-..of the Irish struggle -for independence. | 0:16:28 | 0:16:31 | |
-We're in Croke Park for the final. | 0:16:32 | 0:16:35 | |
-Dublin against Kerry - -two of the country's biggest clubs. | 0:16:35 | 0:16:39 | |
-There's a crowd of 82,000. | 0:16:39 | 0:16:41 | |
-I've seen Wales play football here. | 0:16:42 | 0:16:44 | |
-The goals are familiar but -the rugby posts attached to them... | 0:16:44 | 0:16:48 | |
-..makes it different, -so I hope there's a spare seat! | 0:16:48 | 0:16:52 | |
-Journalists are people -who get to the root of the story. | 0:16:57 | 0:17:00 | |
-That's what Dad's done all his life. -There's always more to every story. | 0:17:01 | 0:17:06 | |
-I've tried to follow -in his footsteps and failed. | 0:17:06 | 0:17:09 | |
-Commentating on football isn't quite -as significant as being a reporter. | 0:17:10 | 0:17:15 | |
-There were 1,500 rebels in Dublin... | 0:17:23 | 0:17:25 | |
-..in 1916... | 0:17:26 | 0:17:29 | |
-..but there were -10 times more Irishmen... | 0:17:29 | 0:17:32 | |
-..fighting -in the British Army's ranks. | 0:17:32 | 0:17:35 | |
-Those complexities meant -that Dublin's ordinary citizens... | 0:17:35 | 0:17:41 | |
-..initially regarded -the revolutionaries as traitors... | 0:17:41 | 0:17:46 | |
-..rather than heroes. | 0:17:46 | 0:17:48 | |
-A large majority -of Dublin's citizens... | 0:17:49 | 0:17:51 | |
-..had other -everyday practical matters... | 0:17:52 | 0:17:55 | |
-..on their plate... | 0:17:56 | 0:17:58 | |
-..so the idea of supporting -an armed rebellion wasn't welcomed. | 0:17:58 | 0:18:03 | |
-The charismatic socialist, James -Connolly, was one of the leaders. | 0:18:06 | 0:18:10 | |
-With his vision -for an independent Ireland... | 0:18:11 | 0:18:14 | |
-..he inspired thousands of Irish -to join the campaign. | 0:18:15 | 0:18:18 | |
-From their HQ at the Post Office, -Connolly, Pearse and Plunkett... | 0:18:22 | 0:18:27 | |
-..tightened their grip -on the civic buildings. | 0:18:27 | 0:18:30 | |
-Edward Daly and his battalion -occupied Four Courts. | 0:18:31 | 0:18:34 | |
-Eamon De Valera -occupied Boland's Bakery. | 0:18:34 | 0:18:37 | |
-Thomas MacDonagh -occupied the Jacobs Factory... | 0:18:38 | 0:18:41 | |
-..Eamonn Ceannt -occupied the South Dublin Union... | 0:18:41 | 0:18:44 | |
-..and Michael Mallin -occupied St Stephen's Green. | 0:18:44 | 0:18:48 | |
-Knowing they were in trouble... | 0:18:48 | 0:18:50 | |
-..Britain deployed -thousands of soldiers to Dublin... | 0:18:50 | 0:18:53 | |
-..but 1,000 Sherwood Foresters -were held at Mount Street Bridge... | 0:18:54 | 0:18:57 | |
-..the main entry route -into the city. | 0:18:58 | 0:19:01 | |
-They came here, up that road -on their way into the city centre... | 0:19:01 | 0:19:07 | |
-..but, of course, Joe Clarke -and six others were expecting them. | 0:19:07 | 0:19:12 | |
-Two or three of them -were in Clanwilliam House... | 0:19:12 | 0:19:16 | |
-..two or three others -waited for them over there. | 0:19:16 | 0:19:20 | |
-They were ambushed, -with no hope of escaping. | 0:19:21 | 0:19:23 | |
-After five hours -of fierce fighting... | 0:19:26 | 0:19:29 | |
-..the rebels -ran out of ammunition... | 0:19:29 | 0:19:32 | |
-..and the British gained entry -into the city centre. | 0:19:32 | 0:19:36 | |
-My old friend, Joe Clarke, -was in amongst it all. | 0:19:36 | 0:19:40 | |
-A soldier caught Joe... | 0:19:40 | 0:19:42 | |
-..he took Joe's pistol from his -hand, pointed it at his forehead... | 0:19:42 | 0:19:47 | |
-..and pulled the trigger. | 0:19:48 | 0:19:49 | |
-Thank goodness it didn't go off. | 0:19:50 | 0:19:52 | |
-The doctor arrived and said... | 0:19:52 | 0:19:54 | |
-.."There's been too much bloodshed -today, give me the gun." | 0:19:54 | 0:19:59 | |
-Joe was detained and taken to -Richmond Barracks for questioning. | 0:19:59 | 0:20:03 | |
-Joe Clarke was one of -the sweetest men I've ever met. | 0:20:06 | 0:20:10 | |
-He was a very short man - -just over five foot tall. | 0:20:10 | 0:20:14 | |
-He wore jam-jar spectacles.... | 0:20:14 | 0:20:17 | |
-..and leaned on crutches. | 0:20:17 | 0:20:19 | |
-He was the last person on earth -I'd imagine with a gun. | 0:20:19 | 0:20:23 | |
-The rebellion's bloodiest battle -took place on Mount Street Bridge... | 0:20:24 | 0:20:29 | |
-..with more than -250 fatalities or casualties. | 0:20:29 | 0:20:32 | |
-The rebels -had fought with their hearts... | 0:20:32 | 0:20:35 | |
-..against the world's -largest professional army. | 0:20:35 | 0:20:39 | |
-At home, we have a romantic image -of what happened here. | 0:20:39 | 0:20:43 | |
-You forget about the British and -the youths who were killed here too. | 0:20:44 | 0:20:48 | |
-It's awful. | 0:20:48 | 0:20:50 | |
-One message reads, -"In memory of all who died here." | 0:20:50 | 0:20:55 | |
-Britain deployed a warship, -the Helga... | 0:20:58 | 0:21:02 | |
-..up the Liffey to fire shells -across Dublin's city centre... | 0:21:02 | 0:21:07 | |
-..until it was completely destroyed. | 0:21:08 | 0:21:11 | |
-The General Post Office -was burnt to a cinder. | 0:21:11 | 0:21:15 | |
-On the Thursday afternoon... | 0:21:15 | 0:21:17 | |
-..James Connolly -sustained serious injuries... | 0:21:18 | 0:21:21 | |
-..to his leg and arm -at the Post Office. | 0:21:21 | 0:21:24 | |
-On the streets outside -the massacre intensified. | 0:21:24 | 0:21:28 | |
-Though prime figures such as -the socialist James Connolly... | 0:21:29 | 0:21:33 | |
-..were prominent in the rebellion... | 0:21:33 | 0:21:36 | |
-..little reference is made -to all the civilians involved. | 0:21:37 | 0:21:41 | |
-By the end of the week... | 0:21:41 | 0:21:43 | |
-..there were -more ordinary citizens killed... | 0:21:43 | 0:21:48 | |
-..than the fatalities -on the two military sides. | 0:21:48 | 0:21:51 | |
-The British Army showed no mercy. | 0:21:53 | 0:21:56 | |
-It was intent -on quelling the rebels. | 0:21:56 | 0:21:59 | |
-They had work to do... | 0:21:59 | 0:22:01 | |
-..in the trenches of France. | 0:22:01 | 0:22:03 | |
-During Easter week, -almost 500 people lost their lives. | 0:22:05 | 0:22:09 | |
-More than half -were civilian deaths... | 0:22:09 | 0:22:11 | |
-..and many were children. | 0:22:12 | 0:22:14 | |
-Hostility -towards the rebellion grew. | 0:22:14 | 0:22:17 | |
-As with every rebellion... | 0:22:17 | 0:22:21 | |
-..it's the innocent people who -suffer, many of whom are children. | 0:22:21 | 0:22:26 | |
-Pearse realized -that the revolt had been in vain. | 0:22:26 | 0:22:30 | |
-He decided to send messages -across the country, saying... | 0:22:31 | 0:22:36 | |
-.."We've given it a go, -now it's time to surrender." | 0:22:36 | 0:22:41 | |
-With 2,500 rebels -facing 20,000 British soldiers... | 0:22:43 | 0:22:47 | |
-..Pearse ordered everyone -to lay down their arms. | 0:22:47 | 0:22:51 | |
-The city's streets -were completely destroyed. | 0:22:51 | 0:22:55 | |
-The insurgents, along with -their leaders, were arrested. | 0:22:59 | 0:23:03 | |
-Britain was determined to put an end -to the rebellion once and for all. | 0:23:03 | 0:23:08 | |
-A decision was made -to shoot the rebellion's leaders. | 0:23:09 | 0:23:13 | |
-This was the most -fateful decision of them all... | 0:23:13 | 0:23:18 | |
-..during Easter week. | 0:23:19 | 0:23:21 | |
-It was the catalyst that -turned an unsuccessful campaign... | 0:23:21 | 0:23:26 | |
-..into a national plight... | 0:23:26 | 0:23:28 | |
-..that transformed -the country's politics and fate. | 0:23:29 | 0:23:32 | |
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-By the end of Easter week in 1916... | 0:23:43 | 0:23:46 | |
-..more than 2,500 -had been either killed or wounded... | 0:23:46 | 0:23:49 | |
-..including 40 children. | 0:23:50 | 0:23:52 | |
-Knowing there was no way of winning, -Patrick Pearse surrendered... | 0:23:52 | 0:23:56 | |
-..and the leaders were rounded up... | 0:23:56 | 0:23:58 | |
-..including the seven who'd signed -the Proclamation on Easter Monday. | 0:23:59 | 0:24:04 | |
-Britain's response was to -punish them in the most extreme way. | 0:24:04 | 0:24:08 | |
-By executing them one by one. | 0:24:08 | 0:24:11 | |
-As he was of American descent, -Eamon De Valera's life was spared. | 0:24:11 | 0:24:15 | |
-It wasn't the prime minister -who gave the order... | 0:24:25 | 0:24:28 | |
-..neither was it Lloyd George, -the War Secretary... | 0:24:28 | 0:24:31 | |
-..but Viscount Wimborne, Ireland's -Chief Secretary, who was Welsh... | 0:24:32 | 0:24:36 | |
-..a descendent -of the Guest family of Glamorgan. | 0:24:36 | 0:24:39 | |
-He ordered the execution -of the 15 rebels. | 0:24:39 | 0:24:42 | |
-There's a chill here, though -we're sheltered from the wind. | 0:24:51 | 0:24:55 | |
-They've kept it simple. -It's such a stark setting. | 0:24:55 | 0:25:00 | |
-It was a perfect place -to execute people in private. | 0:25:00 | 0:25:04 | |
-Something tells me that they were -quite willing to take the bullets. | 0:25:05 | 0:25:10 | |
-Willie Pearse, Patrick's brother... | 0:25:10 | 0:25:13 | |
-..wanted to die. | 0:25:13 | 0:25:15 | |
-If Patrick was going to be shot, -then so would he. | 0:25:15 | 0:25:20 | |
-The only reason they shot Willie was -because he was Patrick's brother. | 0:25:20 | 0:25:25 | |
-This is Pearse's letter -to his mother... | 0:25:37 | 0:25:40 | |
-..that he wrote -the night before his execution. | 0:25:41 | 0:25:44 | |
-It's a famous letter -and it's plain and simple. | 0:25:44 | 0:25:47 | |
-He says, "Don't grieve for me, -I'm doing this for a free Ireland." | 0:25:48 | 0:25:52 | |
-This is what he wanted. | 0:25:52 | 0:25:54 | |
-He was willing -to sacrifice his life. | 0:25:54 | 0:25:57 | |
-Pearse expected it. | 0:26:01 | 0:26:03 | |
-He believed in bloody sacrifice. | 0:26:04 | 0:26:07 | |
-"There's nothing but our own red -blood can make a right Rose Tree." | 0:26:07 | 0:26:11 | |
-Connolly was more of a pragmatist. | 0:26:11 | 0:26:14 | |
-Ordinary folk -were Connolly's people. | 0:26:14 | 0:26:17 | |
-They were -very different characters... | 0:26:17 | 0:26:20 | |
-..but together they created -an unconquerable union. | 0:26:20 | 0:26:25 | |
-I've been standing at the stank -where Connolly was shot. | 0:26:26 | 0:26:32 | |
-That's one of the most pitiful -scenes I've ever imagined... | 0:26:32 | 0:26:37 | |
-..thinking about this man, -who was shot in his leg... | 0:26:37 | 0:26:40 | |
-..and carried on a stretcher -into Kilmainham yard. | 0:26:41 | 0:26:46 | |
-He couldn't stand on his feet, -so they sat him in a chair. | 0:26:46 | 0:26:49 | |
-They had to tie him to the chair... | 0:26:50 | 0:26:54 | |
-..so he would sit upright. | 0:26:54 | 0:26:57 | |
-According to the story... | 0:26:58 | 0:27:00 | |
-..or myth, -no-one's sure which is true... | 0:27:00 | 0:27:03 | |
-..seconds before the bullets -hit him... | 0:27:03 | 0:27:06 | |
-..he held his head high. | 0:27:06 | 0:27:08 | |
-British authorities hadn't foreseen -the effect the executions had... | 0:27:15 | 0:27:20 | |
-..on public opinion in Ireland. | 0:27:20 | 0:27:24 | |
-It's one thing to execute a man... | 0:27:25 | 0:27:28 | |
-..who's in optimum health... | 0:27:29 | 0:27:31 | |
-..who's fought a rebellion... | 0:27:34 | 0:27:36 | |
-..and who's used violence -against you. | 0:27:36 | 0:27:39 | |
-It's another matter -when you execute a man... | 0:27:40 | 0:27:43 | |
-..who's unable to stand... | 0:27:43 | 0:27:45 | |
-..and executing a man in a chair. | 0:27:45 | 0:27:48 | |
-As the news began to emerge... | 0:27:50 | 0:27:54 | |
-..the Irish began to reconsider -the rebellion's objective. | 0:27:54 | 0:27:59 | |
-It's very peaceful here. | 0:28:11 | 0:28:13 | |
-There's no birdsong... | 0:28:13 | 0:28:15 | |
-..which is odd. | 0:28:15 | 0:28:17 | |
-I don't know -if it's me romanticising... | 0:28:18 | 0:28:21 | |
-..but it's -a sobering feeling coming here. | 0:28:21 | 0:28:25 | |
-All the bodies were -thrown into a large hole here... | 0:28:29 | 0:28:33 | |
-..and covered with limestone... | 0:28:34 | 0:28:37 | |
-..so that they disappeared quickly. | 0:28:37 | 0:28:40 | |
-They didn't -want to make martyrs of them. | 0:28:40 | 0:28:43 | |
-They refused -to give the families their bodies. | 0:28:43 | 0:28:46 | |
-This is probably the -most sacred place in Dublin today. | 0:28:47 | 0:28:52 | |
-Sean MacDermott. | 0:28:52 | 0:28:54 | |
-And the man himself - -James Connolly. | 0:28:55 | 0:28:58 | |
-Being here -has made me appreciate it more. | 0:28:58 | 0:29:01 | |
-What happened in the aftermath... | 0:29:01 | 0:29:03 | |
-..changed -the course of Ireland's history. | 0:29:04 | 0:29:08 | |
-What happened to the heroes -who signed the Proclamation... | 0:29:08 | 0:29:12 | |
-..and the way they were treated. | 0:29:12 | 0:29:15 | |
-You feel yourself -becoming more nationalistic. | 0:29:15 | 0:29:18 | |
-It's hard not to be affected by it. | 0:29:18 | 0:29:21 | |
-Hearing about -the execution of Patrick Pearse... | 0:29:24 | 0:29:27 | |
-..and especially James Connolly -changed the opinion of the Irish... | 0:29:28 | 0:29:33 | |
-..prompting a counter response -to what Britain was doing. | 0:29:33 | 0:29:39 | |
-That is to say... | 0:29:39 | 0:29:41 | |
-..that is the real starting place... | 0:29:41 | 0:29:45 | |
-..of the revolt against Britain. | 0:29:45 | 0:29:48 | |
-"Ugly holes -in Cnoc an Arbhair's skull | 0:29:50 | 0:29:54 | |
-"15 empty graves guffaw | 0:29:54 | 0:29:57 | |
-"Like the greedy mouths -of vulture chicks | 0:29:57 | 0:30:00 | |
-"Waiting for their carrion | 0:30:01 | 0:30:03 | |
-"Around them -a regiment of upright Easter lilies | 0:30:03 | 0:30:06 | |
-"Hold their heads high | 0:30:07 | 0:30:09 | |
-"Challenging bullets of rain | 0:30:09 | 0:30:11 | |
-"As they greet the dawn -of late spring." | 0:30:11 | 0:30:15 | |
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-Today's a special day -since it was almost a century ago... | 0:30:32 | 0:30:37 | |
-..that the first three prisoners... | 0:30:38 | 0:30:40 | |
-..came to the Frongoch camp. | 0:30:40 | 0:30:42 | |
-They were later joined... | 0:30:42 | 0:30:45 | |
-..by a further 1,860 -in the following weeks. | 0:30:45 | 0:30:49 | |
-Commemorating the centenary -of the prisoners' arrival... | 0:30:51 | 0:30:55 | |
-..is very important. | 0:30:56 | 0:30:57 | |
-I don't think that people in general -are aware of Frongoch's history. | 0:30:58 | 0:31:03 | |
-You associate that area -with Tryweryn. | 0:31:05 | 0:31:07 | |
-It's dominated Welsh history -for so long... | 0:31:08 | 0:31:11 | |
-..you forget about the area's -other history a stone's throw away. | 0:31:11 | 0:31:16 | |
-Following the execution -of the Easter Rising's leaders... | 0:31:18 | 0:31:22 | |
-..more than 2,500 Republicans, -many of whom hadn't fought... | 0:31:23 | 0:31:27 | |
-..were imprisoned -in Irish and British jails. | 0:31:27 | 0:31:30 | |
-The least dangerous were sent to -Frongoch detention camp near Bala. | 0:31:31 | 0:31:35 | |
-Among them was Michael Collins. | 0:31:35 | 0:31:38 | |
-Age 26, he was the rebellion's -youngest military leader. | 0:31:38 | 0:31:42 | |
-He became a big name in -the history of Irish independence. | 0:31:42 | 0:31:45 | |
-Once a concentration camp -for German prisoners... | 0:31:46 | 0:31:49 | |
-..the prison was ideal -in terms of size and location. | 0:31:49 | 0:31:52 | |
-The men would've been escorted -from the train station... | 0:31:52 | 0:31:57 | |
-..and led down this road. | 0:31:57 | 0:31:59 | |
-There was a high wall of barbed wire -on both sides of the road... | 0:31:59 | 0:32:03 | |
-..and electric wire -surrounding it all. | 0:32:03 | 0:32:06 | |
-On the right here -would've been the north camp. | 0:32:07 | 0:32:11 | |
-Three dozen wooden huts... | 0:32:11 | 0:32:14 | |
-..and three dozen men in each one. | 0:32:14 | 0:32:17 | |
-The south camp was here. | 0:32:18 | 0:32:20 | |
-It was once a distillery. | 0:32:21 | 0:32:22 | |
-Lloyd Price from Rhiwlas -wanted to brew Welsh whisky. | 0:32:23 | 0:32:27 | |
-Apparently, -the heat was intolerable here... | 0:32:29 | 0:32:32 | |
-..while it was too cold -on this side... | 0:32:33 | 0:32:35 | |
-..so the men referred to them... | 0:32:35 | 0:32:38 | |
-..Purgatory and Siberia. | 0:32:38 | 0:32:41 | |
-A 15-year-old local -worked in the camp's canteen. | 0:32:44 | 0:32:47 | |
-Johnnie Roberts got to know Michael -Collins and his crew very well. | 0:32:47 | 0:32:52 | |
-I was the only Welshman there. | 0:32:52 | 0:32:54 | |
-They started calling me -the Little Welshman. | 0:32:54 | 0:32:58 | |
-They liked me -but detested the English. | 0:32:58 | 0:33:01 | |
-Those who were -in the south camp... | 0:33:01 | 0:33:04 | |
-..complained the most. | 0:33:05 | 0:33:07 | |
-The place was so wet and damp... | 0:33:07 | 0:33:10 | |
-..that the poor Irishmen had to -sleep in dire wet conditions... | 0:33:10 | 0:33:14 | |
-..that was also overrun with rats. | 0:33:14 | 0:33:18 | |
-In the June of this year -people flocked to Frongoch... | 0:33:21 | 0:33:25 | |
-..to commemorate -the internment of the rebels. | 0:33:25 | 0:33:28 | |
-Back in 1916, Michael Collins -and his fellow prisoners... | 0:33:28 | 0:33:32 | |
-..were surprised to see the Welsh -language thriving in the area. | 0:33:33 | 0:33:36 | |
-Some of them -even learned the language. | 0:33:37 | 0:33:39 | |
-It inspired them... | 0:33:39 | 0:33:41 | |
-..to resurrect the Irish language... | 0:33:42 | 0:33:44 | |
-..by providing lessons. | 0:33:45 | 0:33:46 | |
-They also practised -military manoeuvres too. | 0:33:47 | 0:33:50 | |
-They learnt guerrilla tactics -of hit and run... | 0:33:50 | 0:33:53 | |
-..instead of capturing buildings. | 0:33:53 | 0:33:57 | |
-These men were shrewd. | 0:33:57 | 0:33:59 | |
-They were preparing -to create an Irish Free State. | 0:33:59 | 0:34:03 | |
-They put us all in one camp. | 0:34:05 | 0:34:07 | |
-We got to know our counterparts -from all over Ireland. | 0:34:07 | 0:34:11 | |
-We learned a lot about tactics... | 0:34:12 | 0:34:15 | |
-..in guerrilla warfare... | 0:34:15 | 0:34:17 | |
-..and educated themselves in the way -to form an army and succeed. | 0:34:18 | 0:34:24 | |
-Anger had been brewing -from the start. | 0:34:27 | 0:34:29 | |
-Britain had interned them -without a release date... | 0:34:30 | 0:34:34 | |
-..with no opportunity to defend -themselves in a court of law. | 0:34:34 | 0:34:38 | |
-To me, internment is one of -the most diabolical punishments... | 0:34:41 | 0:34:47 | |
-..inflicted on man. | 0:34:47 | 0:34:49 | |
-Imprisonment without sentencing... | 0:34:49 | 0:34:52 | |
-..and without a trial. | 0:34:52 | 0:34:54 | |
-But the Irish -seized the opportunity... | 0:34:57 | 0:35:00 | |
-..to retrain themselves -in weapons' training and warfare... | 0:35:00 | 0:35:05 | |
-..in order to run -an Irish Free State. | 0:35:05 | 0:35:09 | |
-Many people describe Frongoch... | 0:35:13 | 0:35:15 | |
-..as the University of Revolution. | 0:35:16 | 0:35:18 | |
-British authorities had interned -these radical young men... | 0:35:21 | 0:35:25 | |
-..in one place, and what happened? | 0:35:25 | 0:35:28 | |
-They became -more radicalised together. | 0:35:28 | 0:35:30 | |
-Britain hadn't learnt its lesson. | 0:35:32 | 0:35:35 | |
-This was highlighted at Frongoch... | 0:35:35 | 0:35:38 | |
-..by one of the prisoners. | 0:35:38 | 0:35:40 | |
-He said, "We're all together here." | 0:35:41 | 0:35:43 | |
-200 of them -had never even held a gun. | 0:35:44 | 0:35:48 | |
-But on their release... | 0:35:48 | 0:35:50 | |
-..they'd obviously -learnt the tricks of the trade. | 0:35:51 | 0:35:54 | |
-They were much more republican -than any of those who went in there. | 0:35:54 | 0:35:59 | |
-Patrick Pearse said, "Only one thing -is worse than an armed Unionist... | 0:36:02 | 0:36:07 | |
-"..and that's -an unarmed Republican." | 0:36:07 | 0:36:10 | |
-Though he'd played -no part in the revolt... | 0:36:10 | 0:36:13 | |
-..Dennis McCullough -was interned here. | 0:36:13 | 0:36:15 | |
-He told his son -very little about it. | 0:36:16 | 0:36:18 | |
-They decided there was too much -unhappiness family-wise, hatred... | 0:36:19 | 0:36:24 | |
-..so they just kept silent about it. | 0:36:24 | 0:36:27 | |
-I find it very emotional -because of the reality of it all. | 0:36:27 | 0:36:32 | |
-That on this very field -that it all happened. | 0:36:32 | 0:36:36 | |
-There's a genuine sense of community -and I'm very moved by it all. | 0:36:37 | 0:36:41 | |
-Anger grew -over squalid living conditions... | 0:36:43 | 0:36:46 | |
-..and the fact that many -had been wrongly interned. | 0:36:46 | 0:36:50 | |
-Many went on hunger strike and -disease swept through the camp. | 0:36:50 | 0:36:54 | |
-Frongoch's doctor was under so much -pressure, he committed suicide. | 0:36:54 | 0:36:59 | |
-On his first day -as Prime Minister of Britain... | 0:36:59 | 0:37:03 | |
-..Lloyd George released the -Frongoch prisoners in December 1916. | 0:37:03 | 0:37:08 | |
-But the damage had been done. | 0:37:11 | 0:37:14 | |
-The disorganised rebels of -the Easter Rising were now ready... | 0:37:14 | 0:37:19 | |
-..to battle for independence -once again. | 0:37:20 | 0:37:22 | |
-The Welsh-language publication -of the book... | 0:37:23 | 0:37:25 | |
-..made me realize how much history -was involved in the uprising. | 0:37:26 | 0:37:30 | |
-The Irish -love hearing about Frongoch. | 0:37:30 | 0:37:33 | |
-They start realizing how important -this rural village is... | 0:37:33 | 0:37:37 | |
-..in Ireland's history, -and Dad's book has helped that. | 0:37:37 | 0:37:41 | |
-It's taken years -for the importance of Frongoch... | 0:37:41 | 0:37:45 | |
-..to come to people's attention. | 0:37:46 | 0:37:49 | |
-It's one of the most significant -places in Ireland's history. | 0:37:49 | 0:37:54 | |
-What was learned at Frongoch... | 0:37:54 | 0:37:57 | |
-..has travelled worldwide. | 0:37:57 | 0:37:59 | |
-People who are fighting for freedom -have adopted the same tactics. | 0:37:59 | 0:38:04 | |
-A contentious figure -in Irish politics... | 0:38:05 | 0:38:08 | |
-..is the MP and -Sinn Fein President Gerry Adams. | 0:38:09 | 0:38:12 | |
-How's the craic? | 0:38:13 | 0:38:15 | |
-Good to meet you. -Been looking forward to this. | 0:38:15 | 0:38:18 | |
-A thorn in Britain's side, -he was imprisoned several times. | 0:38:18 | 0:38:23 | |
-Following the IRA's bombing campaign -in the early 1970s... | 0:38:24 | 0:38:27 | |
-..he was sent -to Maze Prison, Long Kesh. | 0:38:27 | 0:38:30 | |
-Like the inmates of Frongoch, -he was interned without trial... | 0:38:30 | 0:38:35 | |
-..which still happens worldwide -today in places like Guantanamo Bay. | 0:38:35 | 0:38:40 | |
-Thank you for your approval. | 0:38:41 | 0:38:43 | |
-In a recent blog, -Gerry Adams commented... | 0:38:43 | 0:38:46 | |
-..on how much he'd enjoyed -Dad's book about Frongoch. | 0:38:46 | 0:38:50 | |
-You've written about this -very well. I want to complement you. | 0:38:50 | 0:38:54 | |
-It's a very important piece -of Irish and Welsh history. | 0:38:54 | 0:38:58 | |
-And the part that was in cages... | 0:38:58 | 0:39:00 | |
-..just reflects -exactly what Long Kesh was like. | 0:39:01 | 0:39:04 | |
-To be interned without trial... | 0:39:04 | 0:39:07 | |
-..locked up, how did you feel? | 0:39:07 | 0:39:10 | |
-I was badly beaten myself -on a number of occasions. | 0:39:12 | 0:39:16 | |
-But, you know, -anybody who's not afraid is a fool. | 0:39:17 | 0:39:22 | |
-It isn't being afraid -that's the issue... | 0:39:22 | 0:39:24 | |
-..it's being able to overcome it -is the challenge. | 0:39:25 | 0:39:28 | |
-When you were interned, you were -interned without a release date. | 0:39:28 | 0:39:32 | |
-When you were sentenced, -at least you had a release date. | 0:39:32 | 0:39:36 | |
-That made a difference -in terms of... | 0:39:36 | 0:39:38 | |
-..some people's psychological -approach to doing their time. | 0:39:38 | 0:39:42 | |
-I've written on this for you. | 0:39:43 | 0:39:46 | |
-"From Frongoch, onwards to freedom. -To Gerry Adams with admiration." | 0:39:46 | 0:39:51 | |
-Well done. | 0:39:52 | 0:39:54 | |
-It's a lovely historical record... | 0:39:54 | 0:39:57 | |
-..and is incredibly important. | 0:39:57 | 0:40:00 | |
-Thank you very much. | 0:40:00 | 0:40:02 | |
-I'll show you the Welsh one. You -wouldn't be able to understand this. | 0:40:02 | 0:40:07 | |
-The only Welsh phrase I have -is iechyd da (cheers). | 0:40:09 | 0:40:12 | |
-Meeting Gerry Adams -was completely surreal. | 0:40:13 | 0:40:16 | |
-He's such a famous figure, -and he was there, in front of us... | 0:40:16 | 0:40:20 | |
-..sitting down -having a chat with Dad. | 0:40:20 | 0:40:23 | |
-Like Frongoch, he was interned -during a very turbulent time. | 0:40:23 | 0:40:29 | |
-He's now a political figure... | 0:40:29 | 0:40:31 | |
-..which might confuse many. | 0:40:32 | 0:40:34 | |
-Once a terrorist, now a politician. | 0:40:34 | 0:40:36 | |
-But that's what happened -after the Easter Rising. | 0:40:37 | 0:40:40 | |
-Rebels became politicians. | 0:40:40 | 0:40:42 | |
-You've made his year. -It's fantastic. | 0:40:43 | 0:40:46 | |
-You've made my life! | 0:40:47 | 0:40:49 | |
-I'd always thought of Gerry Adams -as a hard man... | 0:40:49 | 0:40:53 | |
-..and a pragmatist... | 0:40:53 | 0:40:55 | |
-..but he's nothing like that. | 0:40:56 | 0:40:58 | |
-He's a warm man -with a good sense of humour. | 0:40:59 | 0:41:02 | |
-I feel privileged -to have met the man. | 0:41:03 | 0:41:05 | |
-Upon his release from Frongoch -in December 1916... | 0:41:06 | 0:41:11 | |
-..Michael Collins, Joe Clarke, -Dick McKee and Richard Mulcahy... | 0:41:11 | 0:41:16 | |
-..rose to prominence. | 0:41:16 | 0:41:18 | |
-They were the new architects -of the Free Irish State... | 0:41:18 | 0:41:22 | |
-..committed to fulfilling -the 1916 Proclamation. | 0:41:22 | 0:41:26 | |
-Britain thought it could revive -the old notion of home rule... | 0:41:26 | 0:41:32 | |
-..but the idea of carrying on -with business as before... | 0:41:32 | 0:41:38 | |
-..was completely untenable. | 0:41:38 | 0:41:40 | |
-There was extreme polarisation -in Dublin in 1916. | 0:41:41 | 0:41:46 | |
-It was impossible -to imagine one parliament... | 0:41:46 | 0:41:50 | |
-..that would unite -the entire county. | 0:41:50 | 0:41:54 | |
-Sending Collins et al to Frongoch -was Britain's worst mistake. | 0:41:55 | 0:41:59 | |
-It was there that they established -themselves as Sinn Fein... | 0:41:59 | 0:42:04 | |
-..and went on to win -a resounding victory... | 0:42:04 | 0:42:07 | |
-..in the 1918 General Election. | 0:42:07 | 0:42:09 | |
-They published the Free Irish -Republic and angered Britain. | 0:42:09 | 0:42:14 | |
-The IRA -also had its roots in Frongoch. | 0:42:14 | 0:42:17 | |
-It was Sinn Fein's new armed branch. | 0:42:17 | 0:42:19 | |
-Under Collins' leadership... | 0:42:20 | 0:42:22 | |
-..it waged war -on Britain once again in 1919... | 0:42:23 | 0:42:26 | |
-..in the Irish War of Independence. | 0:42:26 | 0:42:29 | |
-By the 1920s, -the only way of securing... | 0:42:29 | 0:42:34 | |
-..an acceptable settlement -was to divide Ireland. | 0:42:34 | 0:42:38 | |
-But, of course, -Republicans regarded Ireland... | 0:42:39 | 0:42:43 | |
-..as a united country. | 0:42:43 | 0:42:45 | |
-The 1916 Proclamation... | 0:42:46 | 0:42:48 | |
-..had stated it would 'cherish -the nation's children equally.' | 0:42:48 | 0:42:52 | |
-But that was merely a pipe dream. | 0:42:53 | 0:42:56 | |
-Britain -had to negotiate a settlement. | 0:42:57 | 0:43:02 | |
-Michael Collins and Lloyd George -agreed on a division of Ireland... | 0:43:02 | 0:43:08 | |
-..partitioning -the new Ireland in the south... | 0:43:10 | 0:43:13 | |
-..and the other Ireland -in the north. | 0:43:13 | 0:43:16 | |
-The partition, established in 1921, -still exists to this day. | 0:43:17 | 0:43:21 | |
-The Irish Free State or the -Republic of Ireland in the south... | 0:43:21 | 0:43:25 | |
-..and Northern Ireland, -which remains part of the UK. | 0:43:25 | 0:43:29 | |
-Following the division, there was -more bloodshed in the civil war... | 0:43:29 | 0:43:34 | |
-..when brother -turned against brother. | 0:43:34 | 0:43:38 | |
-In 1922, aged 31... | 0:43:38 | 0:43:40 | |
-..Michael Collins was shot. | 0:43:41 | 0:43:43 | |
-The perpetrator -still remains a mystery. | 0:43:43 | 0:43:46 | |
-The shrewd politician -who honed his craft at Frongoch... | 0:43:46 | 0:43:50 | |
-..is today a worldwide hero. | 0:43:51 | 0:43:53 | |
-Upon his release from Frongoch... | 0:44:03 | 0:44:05 | |
-..Joe Clarke -also played an important role... | 0:44:05 | 0:44:08 | |
-..in the future -of the new Ireland. | 0:44:09 | 0:44:11 | |
-He was a member of the IRA -and vice president of Sinn Fein. | 0:44:11 | 0:44:15 | |
-He and Dad -were good friends until the end. | 0:44:16 | 0:44:18 | |
-It was lovely -placing a flower on his grave. | 0:44:18 | 0:44:21 | |
-I know he meant a lot to Dad. | 0:44:21 | 0:44:23 | |
-Rest in peace, dear Joe. | 0:44:29 | 0:44:31 | |
-It's fair to say he changed my life. | 0:44:33 | 0:44:36 | |
-If he knew I was here now, -I doubt he'd say very much. | 0:44:36 | 0:44:40 | |
-He was a man of few words... | 0:44:40 | 0:44:42 | |
-..but he had a smile -behind those thick glasses. | 0:44:42 | 0:44:45 | |
-It was the smile of a man -who'd witnessed a lot. | 0:44:45 | 0:44:49 | |
-And that's when -the Frongoch obsession began. | 0:44:49 | 0:44:53 | |
-He's to blame for it all! | 0:44:53 | 0:44:55 | |
-The journey has been incredible... | 0:44:57 | 0:45:00 | |
-..because I've heard -Dad's stories all my life. | 0:45:00 | 0:45:04 | |
-They still make me laugh -and they still sustain my interest. | 0:45:04 | 0:45:08 | |
-It makes me appreciate him -as a journalist... | 0:45:08 | 0:45:11 | |
-..because Frongoch -has been an obsession of his. | 0:45:11 | 0:45:15 | |
-Visiting all these places reinforces -the story's importance... | 0:45:15 | 0:45:19 | |
-..and his contribution... | 0:45:20 | 0:45:22 | |
-..because he's changed part -of the story with Frongoch's angle. | 0:45:22 | 0:45:26 | |
-I'm very proud of him, -I always have been... | 0:45:27 | 0:45:30 | |
-..but going around Dublin with him -was lovely. | 0:45:30 | 0:45:33 | |
-It was quite a journey. | 0:45:33 | 0:45:35 | |
-Before we left, we called on an -old friend, musician Ryland Teifi. | 0:45:39 | 0:45:44 | |
-Nice to see you. How are you? | 0:45:48 | 0:45:50 | |
-Having married into -a musical family, the Clancys... | 0:45:50 | 0:45:53 | |
-..the family has settled in one -of the Irish speaking-strongholds. | 0:45:54 | 0:45:58 | |
-What did he make -of the centenary celebrations? | 0:45:58 | 0:46:01 | |
-It's obviously very important... | 0:46:01 | 0:46:04 | |
-..and perhaps -one of the things I envy... | 0:46:04 | 0:46:07 | |
-..is the fact that their history -is so familiar to them. | 0:46:07 | 0:46:10 | |
-It's part of their history. | 0:46:11 | 0:46:13 | |
-Ordinary people we've met -on the street know the history. | 0:46:13 | 0:46:17 | |
-The songs are also familiar to us. -We can't go without hearing a song. | 0:46:17 | 0:46:21 | |
-We're in the perfect location - -we've got Guinness. | 0:46:21 | 0:46:25 | |
-I hope you've brought your guitar. | 0:46:25 | 0:46:27 | |
-It's around here somewhere. -This is where we get up to mischief! | 0:46:28 | 0:46:32 | |
-We've mentioned -the Guinness and the singing. | 0:46:32 | 0:46:35 | |
-People might say -we're stereotyping... | 0:46:35 | 0:46:38 | |
-..but there's truth -to every stereotype. | 0:46:38 | 0:46:42 | |
-For me, the music is integral -to my love of this country. | 0:46:42 | 0:46:47 | |
-THEY SING IN IRISH | 0:46:50 | 0:46:53 | |
-I'll continue to visit Ireland -while I still have strength... | 0:47:06 | 0:47:11 | |
-..and while the stories -about Ireland are still in my mind. | 0:47:11 | 0:47:15 | |
-The story isn't over yet. | 0:47:16 | 0:47:18 | |
-It's not an Irish Ireland and -neither is it a unified Ireland. | 0:47:18 | 0:47:22 | |
-It's fitting that Dylan came with me -to sustain the interest... | 0:47:24 | 0:47:29 | |
-..and to pass it on -to his own children. | 0:47:29 | 0:47:33 | |
-I haven't really thought about -passing on the stories... | 0:47:42 | 0:47:46 | |
-..but it is important because -you don't want them to be forgotten. | 0:47:47 | 0:47:51 | |
-I doubt I can tell the story -as well as my father... | 0:47:52 | 0:47:55 | |
-..so my next step is to make sure -Anni and Ffredi show an interest. | 0:47:55 | 0:48:01 | |
-Ffredi could be an Irishman. | 0:48:05 | 0:48:07 | |
-He's small and solid. | 0:48:07 | 0:48:10 | |
-He's determined too... | 0:48:10 | 0:48:12 | |
-..and won't give in. | 0:48:12 | 0:48:14 | |
-I don't know where -this Irish element has come from. | 0:48:15 | 0:48:19 | |
-From me, perhaps. | 0:48:19 | 0:48:21 | |
-Anni is old enough now -to learn a few things about Ireland. | 0:48:21 | 0:48:25 | |
-The other -will learn in time, believe me! | 0:48:25 | 0:48:28 | |
-He'll be a Paddy! | 0:48:28 | 0:48:30 | |
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