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-Hello and welcome -to a new series of Adre. | 0:00:22 | 0:00:25 | |
-In the coming weeks, -I'll travel across Wales... | 0:00:25 | 0:00:28 | |
-..meeting interesting famous people. | 0:00:28 | 0:00:31 | |
-Today, I start here, in Gwynedd. | 0:00:31 | 0:00:34 | |
-I want to know who owns this house. | 0:00:34 | 0:00:37 | |
-Look what I've found. | 0:00:45 | 0:00:46 | |
-Do you recognise -this cheeky little boy? | 0:00:47 | 0:00:49 | |
-Cute! | 0:00:50 | 0:00:51 | |
-This person is famous -for many different reasons. | 0:00:55 | 0:00:59 | |
-As you can see -from these gold discs... | 0:00:59 | 0:01:02 | |
-..he's famous for his singing. | 0:01:03 | 0:01:05 | |
-This man is religious... | 0:01:07 | 0:01:10 | |
-..and every Sunday, -he travels across Wales preaching. | 0:01:10 | 0:01:14 | |
-He's also a politician. | 0:01:16 | 0:01:19 | |
-He sings protest songs and he's -a former president of Plaid Cymru. | 0:01:19 | 0:01:23 | |
-He's also a keen reader. | 0:01:24 | 0:01:25 | |
-Who owns this house? | 0:01:30 | 0:01:31 | |
-Well, none other than Dafydd Iwan. | 0:01:31 | 0:01:34 | |
-Here's a clip of him. | 0:01:34 | 0:01:35 | |
-# Don't ask your stupid questions | 0:01:36 | 0:01:39 | |
-# Don't give me that surprised look | 0:01:41 | 0:01:43 | |
-# Only a fool would ask | 0:01:44 | 0:01:47 | |
-# Why is snow white? # | 0:01:48 | 0:01:51 | |
-Dafydd, -thank you for inviting us here. | 0:01:54 | 0:01:57 | |
-I don't know where to start. | 0:01:57 | 0:01:59 | |
-We have so much to discuss. | 0:01:59 | 0:02:01 | |
-Let's go right back -to your childhood. | 0:02:01 | 0:02:04 | |
-Where did you grow up? | 0:02:04 | 0:02:05 | |
-Where did you grow up? - -Brynaman, Carmarthenshire. | 0:02:05 | 0:02:09 | |
-On the border between the old -Carmarthenshire and Glamorganshire. | 0:02:09 | 0:02:14 | |
-It was a coal mining village -at the time. | 0:02:14 | 0:02:17 | |
-That's where I spent -the first 12 years of my life. | 0:02:17 | 0:02:21 | |
-You left Brynaman and moved -to North Wales when you were 12. | 0:02:21 | 0:02:26 | |
-My father was the minister -at Gibea Chapel, Brynaman. | 0:02:26 | 0:02:31 | |
-He accepted a post -in Llanuwchllyn, near Bala. | 0:02:33 | 0:02:38 | |
-Myself and my three brothers -moved to Llanuwchllyn. | 0:02:39 | 0:02:45 | |
-During that period -you spent in Llanuwchllyn... | 0:02:45 | 0:02:51 | |
-..did you become aware of politics? | 0:02:51 | 0:02:55 | |
-Were politics and Welshness -important to you, even as a boy? | 0:02:55 | 0:03:00 | |
-I recently came across an essay... | 0:03:01 | 0:03:03 | |
-..that I'd written -as a ten-year-old child. | 0:03:03 | 0:03:06 | |
-What I Want To Be When I'm A Man. | 0:03:07 | 0:03:09 | |
-In that essay, -I said I wanted to be an MP. | 0:03:10 | 0:03:14 | |
-No! | 0:03:14 | 0:03:15 | |
-No! - -The seed had been sown. | 0:03:15 | 0:03:18 | |
-For me, supporting Plaid Cymru... | 0:03:18 | 0:03:21 | |
-..is the same thing -as supporting the Wales rugby team. | 0:03:21 | 0:03:25 | |
-It's as natural as that. | 0:03:25 | 0:03:27 | |
-My paternal grandfather... | 0:03:28 | 0:03:32 | |
-..Fred Jones... | 0:03:32 | 0:03:34 | |
-..was one of the founders of -Plaid Cymru, so it was in my blood. | 0:03:34 | 0:03:39 | |
-It's interesting that your political -beliefs crossed into your singing. | 0:03:39 | 0:03:44 | |
-Did you start to sing protest songs -when you were a student? | 0:03:45 | 0:03:49 | |
-Yes. | 0:03:50 | 0:03:51 | |
-Politics, the Welsh Language Society -and singing took over my life. | 0:03:51 | 0:03:56 | |
-The Welsh Language Society -dominated my life for a decade. | 0:03:59 | 0:04:03 | |
-It was my reason for -getting out of bed every morning. | 0:04:03 | 0:04:08 | |
-The Welsh language -had no official status in the 1960s. | 0:04:08 | 0:04:12 | |
-Our aim was clear. | 0:04:13 | 0:04:15 | |
-The singing was part of it, -because I used my songs... | 0:04:15 | 0:04:20 | |
-..to outline and promote the -Welsh Language Society's campaigns. | 0:04:20 | 0:04:26 | |
-I used the songs -to get points across... | 0:04:26 | 0:04:29 | |
-..and to get slogans across, -such as Paentio'r Byd Yn Wyrdd. | 0:04:29 | 0:04:34 | |
-That song changed the road signs -campaign into something bigger. | 0:04:34 | 0:04:39 | |
-"Let's go together -and paint the world green". | 0:04:39 | 0:04:42 | |
-I still sing that song, -not because of road signs... | 0:04:43 | 0:04:47 | |
-..but to encourage everyone -to unite and campaign for change. | 0:04:47 | 0:04:53 | |
-I didn't look at it as showbiz. | 0:04:54 | 0:04:56 | |
-I simply sang -about what was important to me. | 0:04:57 | 0:05:01 | |
-I tried to do that in a way -that was classed as entertainment. | 0:05:01 | 0:05:05 | |
-My songs were sometimes fun -and they sometimes made you laugh... | 0:05:05 | 0:05:09 | |
-..and they sometimes -used sentiment and emotion... | 0:05:10 | 0:05:16 | |
-..to get people to think. | 0:05:18 | 0:05:20 | |
-Of course, -people didn't always agree with me. | 0:05:21 | 0:05:25 | |
-But at least -it made people discuss the issues. | 0:05:25 | 0:05:28 | |
-Yes, and even -when people disagreed with me... | 0:05:28 | 0:05:32 | |
-..they were -at least discussing politics. | 0:05:32 | 0:05:35 | |
-That was the great contribution -of the Welsh Language Society. | 0:05:35 | 0:05:40 | |
-Yes, there were arguments -that tore families apart. | 0:05:40 | 0:05:44 | |
-There was arguing -and there was suffering... | 0:05:44 | 0:05:47 | |
-..but we brought the language -into the centre of politics. | 0:05:47 | 0:05:51 | |
-Nobody could sit back and say... | 0:05:52 | 0:05:54 | |
-.."I'm not worried -about the Welsh language." | 0:05:54 | 0:05:57 | |
-They had to say where they stood. | 0:05:57 | 0:06:00 | |
-You took up singing during that -period and you're still singing. | 0:06:01 | 0:06:05 | |
-How many songs have you written? | 0:06:06 | 0:06:08 | |
-I'm not sure, but I think -it's somewhere around 300. | 0:06:08 | 0:06:14 | |
-I've forgotten most of them! | 0:06:15 | 0:06:18 | |
-It's difficult -for any singer to retire. | 0:06:20 | 0:06:23 | |
-I've announced my retirement -many times, so sorry. | 0:06:24 | 0:06:28 | |
-I've tried, but I can't do it. | 0:06:28 | 0:06:30 | |
-While someone somewhere wants -to hear me sing, I'll carry on. | 0:06:32 | 0:06:37 | |
-At the same time, I'm aware -that you can go on for too long. | 0:06:37 | 0:06:42 | |
-The only sure thing is that -there will be a final concert. | 0:06:45 | 0:06:49 | |
-Can I go and have a snoop -around your home now? | 0:06:50 | 0:06:53 | |
-Absolutely. | 0:06:54 | 0:06:55 | |
-Luckily, Bethan -takes care of the house. | 0:06:55 | 0:06:59 | |
-All I do is live here! | 0:06:59 | 0:07:01 | |
-This is what we see when we step in -through the front door. | 0:07:08 | 0:07:12 | |
-It's lovely and open. | 0:07:13 | 0:07:14 | |
-There's lots of art on the walls, -so I take it you're a fan of art. | 0:07:15 | 0:07:19 | |
-Our extensive collection -is made up of gifts and purchases. | 0:07:21 | 0:07:25 | |
-We'd give the National Library -a run for its money! | 0:07:26 | 0:07:29 | |
-There's an equine theme here. | 0:07:30 | 0:07:31 | |
-There's an equine theme here. - -Yes. Bethan is fond of horses. | 0:07:31 | 0:07:35 | |
-How long have you lived here? | 0:07:35 | 0:07:37 | |
-How long have you lived here? - -Since 1988. | 0:07:37 | 0:07:38 | |
-It was a huge year for me. | 0:07:38 | 0:07:40 | |
-I married Bethan, I had a 25 year -celebration concert in Corwen... | 0:07:41 | 0:07:45 | |
-..and we moved in to this house. | 0:07:46 | 0:07:48 | |
-It was a little box -when we bought it. | 0:07:48 | 0:07:52 | |
-We added to our little box -as our family expanded... | 0:07:52 | 0:07:56 | |
-..and as our needs changed. | 0:07:56 | 0:07:58 | |
-It's an unusual house, -in terms of its shape. | 0:07:59 | 0:08:02 | |
-Let's take a look at the kitchen. | 0:08:03 | 0:08:06 | |
-This is the kitchen. | 0:08:17 | 0:08:18 | |
-This is the kitchen. - -Nice. | 0:08:18 | 0:08:20 | |
-Its shape -is a bit out of the ordinary. | 0:08:20 | 0:08:23 | |
-It's wrapped around two rooms, -in a way. | 0:08:23 | 0:08:26 | |
-This black slate worktop came from -Cwt Y Bugail, Blaenau Ffestiniog. | 0:08:27 | 0:08:32 | |
-This is where Bethan does her work -and I help occasionally! | 0:08:33 | 0:08:38 | |
-You're a sous-chef? You do help? | 0:08:38 | 0:08:40 | |
-She's so good, -who am I to interfere? | 0:08:40 | 0:08:43 | |
-When she's away, -I can take care of myself. | 0:08:44 | 0:08:48 | |
-When the whole family comes home, -we eat in there. | 0:08:48 | 0:08:53 | |
-Other than that, -we eat in the kitchen. | 0:08:53 | 0:08:56 | |
-Let's take a look over there. | 0:08:57 | 0:08:59 | |
-The lounge. | 0:09:11 | 0:09:12 | |
-Yes, this is the main living space -in this house. | 0:09:12 | 0:09:16 | |
-That's a relatively small TV. | 0:09:18 | 0:09:20 | |
-It's not like a cinema screen, -so do you watch much TV? | 0:09:23 | 0:09:26 | |
-It took a long time -for us to accept... | 0:09:27 | 0:09:29 | |
-..we needed something bigger -than a small TV. | 0:09:29 | 0:09:33 | |
-One of the children came home -one Christmas and said, "Oh, Dad!" | 0:09:33 | 0:09:38 | |
-The colour didn't work either... | 0:09:38 | 0:09:40 | |
-..so we had -a small black and white TV! | 0:09:40 | 0:09:43 | |
-I think that screen is big enough. | 0:09:44 | 0:09:46 | |
-Is that a collection -of family photos? | 0:09:47 | 0:09:51 | |
-Yes. | 0:09:52 | 0:09:53 | |
-Without family, we're nobody. | 0:09:53 | 0:09:56 | |
-Those are our children, -our friends and our family. | 0:09:56 | 0:09:59 | |
-You have five children, don't you? | 0:10:00 | 0:10:02 | |
-You have five children, don't you? - -Yes. | 0:10:02 | 0:10:04 | |
-Three from my first marriage -and two from this marriage. | 0:10:04 | 0:10:08 | |
-All five mean the world to me and -they get on like a house on fire. | 0:10:09 | 0:10:13 | |
-You're a grandfather too. | 0:10:13 | 0:10:15 | |
-Yes - I have four grandchildren. | 0:10:15 | 0:10:18 | |
-We're lucky because we don't -have to babysit them too much. | 0:10:18 | 0:10:22 | |
-Many grandparents -do a lot of childcare these days. | 0:10:22 | 0:10:26 | |
-You pass them back pretty quickly! | 0:10:26 | 0:10:29 | |
-You pass them back pretty quickly! - -Yes, we have them in small helpings. | 0:10:29 | 0:10:32 | |
-Oh, nice! | 0:10:46 | 0:10:47 | |
-These are the bedrooms, Nia. | 0:10:47 | 0:10:50 | |
-That's Caio's room, that's Celt's -room and that's the master bedroom. | 0:10:51 | 0:10:56 | |
-This is our bedroom. | 0:11:08 | 0:11:10 | |
-This is our bedroom. - -It's nice. | 0:11:10 | 0:11:11 | |
-This was commissioned by Sain. -It's by Catrin Williams. | 0:11:15 | 0:11:19 | |
-Catrin included lyrics from my songs -in this piece... | 0:11:19 | 0:11:24 | |
-..which was presented to me -as a birthday present. | 0:11:24 | 0:11:29 | |
-Bethan commissioned that picture -to celebrate another birthday. | 0:11:31 | 0:11:35 | |
-It's by Stephen Jones, -a local artist. | 0:11:36 | 0:11:39 | |
-That's Bethan, Caio and Celt -on Dinas Dinlle beach. | 0:11:39 | 0:11:44 | |
-We see the three from the back -but it's extremely lifelike. | 0:11:45 | 0:11:50 | |
-It's a very special painting to us. | 0:11:50 | 0:11:54 | |
-That's where -you make yourself beautiful! | 0:11:54 | 0:11:57 | |
-I don't have to try too hard! | 0:11:59 | 0:12:01 | |
-I don't have to try too hard! - -Well said. | 0:12:01 | 0:12:02 | |
-Can we take a look -at the other side of the house? | 0:12:03 | 0:12:06 | |
-This is your second lounge. | 0:12:12 | 0:12:14 | |
-Do you escape in here -for some peace and quiet? | 0:12:14 | 0:12:18 | |
-Yes, it's a room where I escape -to watch TV or to contemplate. | 0:12:19 | 0:12:24 | |
-We called it the Wooden Room -because that wall was clad in wood. | 0:12:26 | 0:12:31 | |
-This was the first room -to be added to the original box. | 0:12:31 | 0:12:36 | |
-It's been a really useful room. | 0:12:36 | 0:12:38 | |
-The library? | 0:12:43 | 0:12:45 | |
-Yes - my library, study and office. | 0:12:45 | 0:12:48 | |
-You can tell from the mess that -I spend most of my time in there! | 0:12:48 | 0:12:52 | |
-Bethan told me that -she's not responsible for this room! | 0:12:53 | 0:12:57 | |
-After you, if I'm brave enough! | 0:12:57 | 0:12:59 | |
-After you, if I'm brave enough! - -Give it a go. | 0:12:59 | 0:13:01 | |
-A piano tucked away there -and this is your library. | 0:13:01 | 0:13:05 | |
-This looks like a busy room. | 0:13:05 | 0:13:07 | |
-Well, I've always worked like this. | 0:13:07 | 0:13:10 | |
-It's organized chaos. | 0:13:10 | 0:13:12 | |
-I know where everything is, says he! | 0:13:12 | 0:13:15 | |
-I come here to laze around... | 0:13:16 | 0:13:19 | |
-..write a few songs and think. | 0:13:19 | 0:13:22 | |
-It's good to have a room like this, -where I can watch the birds outside. | 0:13:22 | 0:13:27 | |
-I enjoy the time I spend in here. | 0:13:29 | 0:13:31 | |
-It's good that a man... | 0:13:31 | 0:13:35 | |
-..can have an untidy cave -like this in his life. | 0:13:35 | 0:13:39 | |
-Join me after the break... | 0:13:49 | 0:13:51 | |
-..when Dafydd and I will -cross the bridge to Anglesey... | 0:13:52 | 0:13:56 | |
-..and entertain -a group of people there. | 0:13:56 | 0:13:59 | |
-Well, Dafydd will do the singing -and I'll sit there and watch. | 0:13:59 | 0:14:04 | |
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-Welcome back. | 0:14:15 | 0:14:17 | |
-Dafydd Iwan and I have travelled to -Benllech for a chat and a song... | 0:14:17 | 0:14:22 | |
-..with Bodffordd Pensioners' Club. | 0:14:22 | 0:14:24 | |
-Catherine, -you're the club president. | 0:14:32 | 0:14:34 | |
-Tell me a bit about the club. | 0:14:35 | 0:14:37 | |
-I've been a member for ten years... | 0:14:38 | 0:14:41 | |
-..but the club was founded -around 40 years ago. | 0:14:41 | 0:14:45 | |
-As Dafydd Iwan would say, -we're still here. | 0:14:45 | 0:14:48 | |
-It's a warm, friendly club. | 0:14:50 | 0:14:53 | |
-Everyone enjoys -coming together once a month. | 0:14:53 | 0:14:58 | |
-Are they a wild crew? | 0:14:59 | 0:15:00 | |
-Are they a wild crew? - -It depends where you take them! | 0:15:00 | 0:15:03 | |
-This is a special day. -Dafydd Iwan is here to sing to you. | 0:15:03 | 0:15:07 | |
-Do you know him? | 0:15:08 | 0:15:09 | |
-Do you know him? - -Yes, through his preaching. | 0:15:09 | 0:15:11 | |
-His father adjudicated -at eisteddfodau. | 0:15:11 | 0:15:15 | |
-# Mam made a coat for me -From a piece of the sky above | 0:15:15 | 0:15:19 | |
-# In the middle of the summer # | 0:15:19 | 0:15:22 | |
-Try the chorus. | 0:15:22 | 0:15:23 | |
-# Lah-lah, lah-lah-lah. -Lah-lah, lah-lah-lah... # | 0:15:23 | 0:15:27 | |
-I love doing -this type of informal stuff... | 0:15:27 | 0:15:32 | |
-..especially with the elderly. | 0:15:32 | 0:15:34 | |
-They're about the same age as me! | 0:15:34 | 0:15:37 | |
-I'm thrilled to be able to do this -up north or down south. | 0:15:40 | 0:15:43 | |
-# Mam made a coat for me -From a piece of the sky above | 0:15:44 | 0:15:48 | |
-# When it was raining # | 0:15:48 | 0:15:51 | |
-I remember -back to my college years... | 0:15:52 | 0:15:56 | |
-..when Dafydd -was a student in Cardiff. | 0:15:57 | 0:16:00 | |
-He'd come up to Bangor. | 0:16:00 | 0:16:02 | |
-Students were thrilled to see him. | 0:16:02 | 0:16:05 | |
-# I asked the robin, -"Where did you get that red coat?" # | 0:16:05 | 0:16:09 | |
-He champions the Welsh language -and it's a pleasure to be with him. | 0:16:09 | 0:16:14 | |
-These songs have been -part of their lives and my life too. | 0:16:18 | 0:16:23 | |
-This is my way of giving back -to the people who've supported me. | 0:16:24 | 0:16:29 | |
-Dafydd is an icon and Wales -would be poorer without him. | 0:16:34 | 0:16:38 | |
-He's passionate about Wales. | 0:16:39 | 0:16:41 | |
-He's passionate about Wales. - -That hasn't changed. | 0:16:41 | 0:16:43 | |
-No, and we're proud of him. | 0:16:43 | 0:16:45 | |
-This is the chapel and centre -at Caeathro. | 0:17:12 | 0:17:15 | |
-A group of people -came together a few years ago... | 0:17:16 | 0:17:20 | |
-..to renovate this chapel. | 0:17:21 | 0:17:24 | |
-We received grants -to turn it into a chapel... | 0:17:24 | 0:17:29 | |
-..and a community centre. | 0:17:29 | 0:17:32 | |
-There's a garage and a shop here... | 0:17:32 | 0:17:34 | |
-..but this is the focal point -of the village. | 0:17:35 | 0:17:38 | |
-I preach here once a year but -I don't attend many services here... | 0:17:38 | 0:17:43 | |
-..because I'm usually -away preaching. | 0:17:43 | 0:17:46 | |
-But I do enjoy coming here. | 0:17:46 | 0:17:48 | |
-As you mentioned, you're a preacher. | 0:17:48 | 0:17:51 | |
-Where do you do your preaching? | 0:17:51 | 0:17:54 | |
-Well, it all started in Waunfawr. | 0:17:55 | 0:17:58 | |
-The Independent Chapel had no-one -to give a sermon one Sunday... | 0:17:58 | 0:18:03 | |
-..and they asked me to do it. | 0:18:03 | 0:18:05 | |
-I was scared. | 0:18:05 | 0:18:07 | |
-I'd never considered it. | 0:18:07 | 0:18:09 | |
-But I did it, -with some help from my father. | 0:18:09 | 0:18:14 | |
-I didn't enjoy preaching -for a while... | 0:18:16 | 0:18:20 | |
-..because I didn't feel worthy. | 0:18:20 | 0:18:22 | |
-Once I'd conquered those feelings -of being unworthy... | 0:18:23 | 0:18:27 | |
-..I started to warm to the task. | 0:18:27 | 0:18:29 | |
-I found myself being called -to various chapels in the area. | 0:18:30 | 0:18:34 | |
-Word soon gets around. | 0:18:34 | 0:18:36 | |
-As the number of ministers -we have dwindles... | 0:18:36 | 0:18:40 | |
-..the demand for preachers like me -have steadily grown. | 0:18:41 | 0:18:45 | |
-I even have preaching bookings -for 2019! | 0:18:45 | 0:18:49 | |
-I've said that will by my final year -as a preacher. | 0:18:52 | 0:18:55 | |
-I have a five-year diary -for preaching... | 0:18:56 | 0:18:59 | |
-..and it ends in 2019. | 0:18:59 | 0:19:01 | |
-I'll retire from preaching -when I'm 80. | 0:19:01 | 0:19:04 | |
-We've heard it all before, Dafydd! | 0:19:05 | 0:19:07 | |
-We've heard it all before, Dafydd! - -If I'm alive, I'll retire then. | 0:19:07 | 0:19:09 | |
-What three things would you rescue -from your home if you had to flee? | 0:19:19 | 0:19:24 | |
-It's no surprise -that you'd save a picture. | 0:19:24 | 0:19:27 | |
-It's hard to choose three, -but this is the first one. | 0:19:28 | 0:19:31 | |
-It's a photo of the family -who lived on Cilie farm. | 0:19:31 | 0:19:34 | |
-The original Cilie family. | 0:19:35 | 0:19:37 | |
-My great-grandfather, -my great-grandmother... | 0:19:37 | 0:19:41 | |
-..carrying Alun Cilie, -one of their 12 children. | 0:19:41 | 0:19:45 | |
-That's Fred, my grandfather, -who was the eldest. | 0:19:45 | 0:19:49 | |
-The Cilie boys were famous poets. | 0:19:49 | 0:19:53 | |
-Yes, that's the main thing - -most were some sort of poets. | 0:19:53 | 0:19:58 | |
-They wrote poetry -to mark local events. | 0:19:58 | 0:20:04 | |
-One or two of them -were pretty special poets. | 0:20:04 | 0:20:09 | |
-I won't praise my family too much... | 0:20:09 | 0:20:11 | |
-..but I'm proud of this lot. | 0:20:11 | 0:20:14 | |
-In order to get a photograph -of the members of the family only... | 0:20:15 | 0:20:20 | |
-..the maid who was standing there -was deleted from the picture. | 0:20:21 | 0:20:25 | |
-You can almost see her shadow there. | 0:20:26 | 0:20:29 | |
-Yes, she's like a ghost, but she was -deleted to make it a family photo. | 0:20:30 | 0:20:36 | |
-I don't see it -as a slight on the maid. | 0:20:36 | 0:20:41 | |
-The second item is also in a frame. | 0:20:45 | 0:20:50 | |
-I hope I'm not guilty -of a bit of name-dropping here... | 0:20:50 | 0:20:54 | |
-..but I don't mind -if I face that accusation. | 0:20:55 | 0:20:59 | |
-This reflects the fact I had the -honour of meeting Saunders Lewis... | 0:20:59 | 0:21:05 | |
-..on more than one occasion. | 0:21:05 | 0:21:07 | |
-I first met him in 1969. | 0:21:07 | 0:21:11 | |
-The road signs campaign and -the anti-investiture campaigns... | 0:21:12 | 0:21:17 | |
-..were raging at that time. | 0:21:17 | 0:21:19 | |
-I went to his house -and he gave this to me. | 0:21:20 | 0:21:22 | |
-It's a print of the work -of David Jones, the poet and artist. | 0:21:23 | 0:21:28 | |
-He was famous for his calligraphy... | 0:21:29 | 0:21:33 | |
-..and he used a combination -of Latin, English and Welsh. | 0:21:33 | 0:21:37 | |
-On this photograph -of the original work... | 0:21:38 | 0:21:42 | |
-..he wrote Ante Luciferum Genuite. | 0:21:43 | 0:21:49 | |
-On the back, he wrote a letter -to his friend, Saunders Lewis. | 0:21:49 | 0:21:54 | |
-"Christmas 1958. To Saunders, -with fond regards, from Dafydd". | 0:21:54 | 0:21:59 | |
-Saunders rededicated it. | 0:22:00 | 0:22:01 | |
-"And to Dafydd Iwan, -Saunders Lewis, 16 June 1969." | 0:22:02 | 0:22:06 | |
-Given the links -with Saunders and David Jones... | 0:22:07 | 0:22:12 | |
-..this is a treasure -I'd rescue from any fire. | 0:22:12 | 0:22:16 | |
-It's absolutely fine to name-drop -the great hero, Saunders Lewis! | 0:22:16 | 0:22:21 | |
-Thank you very much. | 0:22:22 | 0:22:24 | |
-And finally? | 0:22:26 | 0:22:27 | |
-And finally? - -I'd have to rescue this little book. | 0:22:27 | 0:22:30 | |
-I rely on this diary. | 0:22:31 | 0:22:34 | |
-If you want to know where I'll be -next week or a year from today... | 0:22:34 | 0:22:38 | |
-..I'll tell you -because it's in here. | 0:22:38 | 0:22:41 | |
-Without this, I have no memory! | 0:22:41 | 0:22:44 | |
-You don't know where you've been -or where you're going! | 0:22:45 | 0:22:48 | |
-It's all in here. | 0:22:49 | 0:22:50 | |
-Yes, but the tragedy is, -I lose this on a regular basis! | 0:22:50 | 0:22:54 | |
-That's why I'm lost. | 0:22:54 | 0:22:56 | |
-That's why I'm lost. - -There we are. Thank you very much. | 0:22:56 | 0:22:58 | |
-I'll leave you in peace -to go and hide in your office. | 0:22:59 | 0:23:02 | |
-I've enjoyed your company. | 0:23:02 | 0:23:04 | |
-You're a national treasure. | 0:23:05 | 0:23:07 | |
-Thank you, Nia. | 0:23:07 | 0:23:09 | |
-Thank you, Nia. - -Dafydd Iwan! | 0:23:09 | 0:23:11 | |
-I've been in his bedroom! | 0:23:11 | 0:23:13 | |
-S4C Subtitles by Testun Cyf. | 0:23:31 | 0:23:33 | |
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