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BBC Four Collections -

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archive programmes chosen by experts.

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For this Collection, Gary Boyd-Hope

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has selected programmes celebrating Britain's steam railway legacy.

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More programmes on this theme

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and other BBC Four Collections

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are available on BBC iPlayer.

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There used to be an old saying how any fool could start a steam engine

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but to control it and bring it to a stand is an entirely different thing.

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The thing about the job and the boys and that,

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there's nothing like a steam engine.

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I like the new work, if you can term it,

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but there is still that old fascination for steam.

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Whilst I don't want to see it again, there's always that

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element of love for the old machine that you had for many years.

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There are plenty of men in London clubs ready to write letters

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to the papers about how the railways ought to be run

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and there are plenty of cold-hearted Treasury nominees who will

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invent arguments against having railways at all,

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statistical ones, and, of course,

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there are enemies of the railways in the road haulage industry but

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this film, or rather programme, isn't about them -

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it's about human beings,

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men of steam,

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and one particular bit of line.

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You know its name already

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because it said so at the beginning of the programme.

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The line from Bristol to Paddington with one branch to

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Bradford-on-Avon, one of its branches.

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The Great Western Railway.

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And here I am in the Railway Museum in the railway

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town of Swindon where the Great Western Works are.

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You know, the Great Western, it had great names.

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Brunel, Daniel Gooch, Charles Saunders, William Dean,

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Churchward, Hawksworth.

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And, even now,

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it's a great honour in Swindon to be in the Great Western Works.

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That is to say what's called "inside" here in Swindon because,

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in the past, it was connected with safety and a way of life.

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Men could come in from the fields and find a job inside

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and they were looked after all their lives by the Great Western.

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It's a paternal thing and it goes from father to son

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and there are plenty of people in Swindon whose fathers

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and grandfathers and even great-grandfathers were inside,

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as it's called, in the Great Western Works.

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It's not surprising, really, as it's been going, the Great Western,

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for over 120 years.

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The Great Western was another word for the West of England.

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It did everything.

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It took us to the races, it ran four-horse brakes

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and high-powered steamers,

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it carried us on excursions to the seaside,

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it brought us our food and coal.

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True, there were other railways in the west

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but the Great Western was the king of the lot.

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It spread over Wales and up north to Birkenhead

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and it sent boats from Fishguard to Ireland.

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It bought up smaller lines and made a profit

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right until the days of nationalisation.

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It was as official and established as the cities of London and Bristol.

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And there, in the company's crest, you can see

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the arms of these two cities, the Great Western was built to join.

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The cross and sword of London on the left, the ship and castle of Bristol.

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The first engine for the new railway was ordered from Robert Stephenson.

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There it is - the North Star.

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And in 1838, it drew the first Great Western train

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and it cost £4,000.

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And by 1870, when the North Star was put out of commission,

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she had done 420,000 miles.

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Well done, old thing.

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But what about the man who laid the track along which

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the North Star was to go? What about him?

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Isambard Kingdom Brunel, who died aged 53 in 1859,

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a cigar-smoking, humorous and practical genius.

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He wanted to link the world by steam

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and designed this ironclad vessel to go from Bristol to New York,

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a continuation of his Great Western Railway

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from Bristol to London.

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That drawing he made for Clifton Suspension Bridge

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when he was only 24 shows the two sides of his character.

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The bridge is drawn with all the precision of an engineer

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and the gorge below it, with all the depth and romance of the artist.

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And I think it was the artist in Brunel which made him

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choose the Gothic style for the terminus of his railway at Bristol.

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Gothic to go with the ancient city.

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Paddington, at the London end of the line, is a complete contrast -

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severely modern. Just glass and cast iron.

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Brunel took great pride in Paddington Station,

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because it was what it still is - the biggest building in London

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with no outside walls.

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it is just a cutting, roofed over with iron and glass.

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When the young Brunel was asked to survey a route

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from Bristol to London in 1835,

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he refused to do so in competition with anyone else.

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He told the directors of the new company

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he would agree to survey only one road from Bristol to London

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and that would be the best, not the cheapest.

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And so it still is today - faster than any road route,

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straight and level for the broad gauge engines of Daniel Gooch.

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In the 1840s, a book of pictures of the line was published

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and here's one of them coming.

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The Wharncliffe Viaduct at Hanwell

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in the Egyptian style Brunel was so fond of.

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Just the same today.

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Notice those flat brick arches

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and then those flatter ones still over the Thames at Maidenhead,

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the flattest brick arches ever made.

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Critics thought the bridge would collapse

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once the wooden centring was removed,

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so for a joke Brunel left the centring

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until it was blown away in a storm,

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but the bridge has carried trains ever since

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and so has Basildon bridge, there higher up on the Thames,

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built on the same principles.

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Brunel was a genius all right.

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Look at the trouble he took over detail -

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for instance, country stations.

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There is the Pangbourne station as it once was

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with a broad gauge engine waiting on the down platform.

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Now, it so happens that there is one country station left on the line,

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just as it was when Brunel designed it.

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There it is - Shrivenham in Berkshire.

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It's worth getting out and having a look at the trouble that he took

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with this little station and with the house under the broad veranda.

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You see, it was meant to look like the gate lodge of a great house,

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but on the new iron road instead of the old turnpike.

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Carved stone, Tudor style, to give a historic look

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and local flints from the downs a few miles off

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so that passengers would recognise

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the nature of the country they were in,

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and the flint all knapped at great expense.

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Swindon was the place Daniel Gooch,

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the company's first locomotive engineer,

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chose for the Great Western works and repair shops.

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It was on level ground, near a canal

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and where the railway to Gloucester branched off.

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The works now cover hundreds of acres

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and there's no sign at all

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of that original wooden engine house you see there

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where Gooch stabled his iron horses.

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But here's the remarkable thing about Swindon.

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Do you see that recreation ground

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over there beyond the houses in the middle distance?

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It was once a cricket field.

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Well, that ground and this church - the famous St Mark's, Swindon -

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and that inn, and a mechanics institute near it

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and all these little streets of well-built stone houses

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were built by the Great Western for their own people.

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It must be the first industrial estate in Britain, about 1840,

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and it once stood in green fields away from the smoke.

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It shows the paternal spirit of the Great Western,

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which makes Swindon to this day such a friendly place.

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When I came to Swindon 30 years ago,

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I didn't have no intentions of staying here.

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But I found it such a lovely place to live in and work in.

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I found the Great Western at Swindon -

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which was the home of the Great Western -

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I found they were such a happy place here.

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The management and men, it was one happy family in those days.

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And I was very interested in the amenities that they had here.

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If you wanted a doctor, if you wanted a bath,

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if you wanted to read, if you wanted a book or anything at all,

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you went to the Great Western. The Great Western ran the town.

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But as the years have gone by, those things have changed.

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Swindon today is not a railway town in any shape or form.

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We're just a secondary consideration today

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as far as railways are concerned. Everybody looked for a job -

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everybody worked for the Great Western.

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Well, they did go, our engines wanted some beating,

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there's no doubt about it. There's no doubt about it.

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The old... Castles, the Abbey class, they wanted some touching.

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The 29s were good, but...

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The four-cylinder engines, the Castle class and the Abbey class,

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they were good engines, there's no doubt about it.

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Now for the greatest obstacle on Brunel's iron road from Bristol.

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The limestone hill between Corsham and Bath at Box.

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Terror struck all England at his daring to drive a tunnel through it.

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People said that only death and black disaster were ahead.

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Out on the other side, after five years' work by thousands of men,

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Brunel built a triumphal arch to the success of his Box Tunnel.

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Over a bridge built to fit in with the Roman city,

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smoothly the Great Western glides into Bath.

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For the station, Brunel could not resist his romantic Tudor style

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and it once had a wooden roof

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like that which still survives at Temple Meads.

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The street entrance was made to look like an Elizabethan country house

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and something of the country house atmosphere survives at Bath station,

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with the station master as a grand major-domo welcoming his visitors.

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STATION MASTER: My usual day starts at 8.20.

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The first train I have to see away is the 8.32 Pullman to Paddington.

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After that I return to the office where the morning correspondence,

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the morning mail, is ready.

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I see the 9.32 out to London.

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I then meet the 7.45 in from Paddington, which departs at 10.07.

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It's followed by the Bristolian leaving at 10.28.

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And returning again to the up platform for the 10.32.

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And this is the mould and procedure, really, throughout the day.

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Well, at a station like Bath,

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one of the principal phases of the work here

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has us in contact with the travelling public,

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which includes many overseas visitors

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and, of course, many people of rank and importance,

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nationally or otherwise.

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It's fallen to my lot to meet three members of the Royal family.

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The Queen Mother, Princess Marina and Princess Margaret,

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who is now, of course, a fairly frequent visitor to Bath.

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And also many ambassadors visit Bath.

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And it has been my duty on occasions when they are private visits

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to receive them and to see to their wants to and from the station.

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NARRATOR: The signal box at Bath is poised above the station platform.

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The Great Western -

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what is it, I wonder, which makes men so proud to have belonged to it?

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STATION MASTER: Well, I think that goes back

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to the time of Sir Felix Pole

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who instituted a motto that the Great Western was a family concern.

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You see, I in turn served under Mr Randolph Pole,

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the brother of Sir Felix,

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and they instilled into all around them

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the theme that Great Western is a family concern.

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And the Great Western employees were one large family.

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And that did, no doubt, permutate down through...

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Right from the top to the bottom of the old Great Western Railway.

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And I think you will find that if you question any of the old members,

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whether they are drivers, guards, signalmen, shunters, anybody,

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that they all had that feeling that we were members of one big concern

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and whatever we did, if we did it well it was to the good.

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If we did it badly, we'd let the whole concern down.

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NARRATOR: Away down the Avon Valley, out of Somerset into Wiltshire

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on the branch line to Bradford-on-Avon.

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My goodness - nothing like the peace of a branch line

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and a well-kept country station.

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It's a satisfying peace.

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With plenty of life and plenty to do

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and where the porter has time to dream of the station competition.

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RELIEF PORTER: Well, I came on relief when the resident porter passed away.

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I didn't like to see the gardens go back

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so I just took them on and started doing them.

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I asked if it'd be all right.

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We might as well keep them up together now they are up together.

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But I had thought about taking the garden prize,

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or having a go at it anyway,

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but they've cut that out now as a garden competition

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and they've got in as a station competition.

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Well I wish we're lucky enough in that. I don't know.

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We're going to have a try anyway to keep the station up together.

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In the past there was a Mr Davies. A retired porter, he recently retired.

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He was here, I believe, 40-odd years.

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He took several first prizes and special prizes.

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So I thought we might get some of them back again,

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but unfortunately it doesn't sound like that now.

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We've only got the three relief porters here.

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There's no permanent porter here at all now.

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They get the credit for the station the same as I do.

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I just do the gardening, that's all.

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I can't take the credit for keeping the station altogether

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because when they're here, they do it

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and I just keep the gardens up as well as the station.

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We haven't had any complaints yet from the station master

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about the dirtiness of the station.

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NARRATOR: That's the 3.45 from Westbury.

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All stations.

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She'll call at Limpley Stoke and Bathampton

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and she should be in Bath by 4.23.

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FARMER WHISTLES

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FARMER SHOUTS INDISTINCTLY

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Oi, oi, oi, oi, oi. Come on, come on.

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Come on.

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PORTER: I think she lay down in the gutter now.

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That's right, farmer, shut that gate up.

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I can't get 'em back through the wire.

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THEY SHOUT INDISTINCTLY

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Come on.

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Come on.

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NARRATOR: I think you can get nearest to the heart of the railway

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and know what being a railwayman is by talking to the engine drivers.

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They have calm judgment, knowledge, skill and experience.

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They've gained these from each other since the days of Brunel and Gooch.

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Well, in our days under the old Great Western Railway,

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we didn't have no fire inspectors or anyone like that in those days.

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We had locomotive inspectors but not firemen, not fire inspectors,

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and we were tutored and taught by the drivers.

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See, the first job we did was to go on the pilots

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and we were learnt from those drivers that were..

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..what you can call...

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..real railwaymen. There was no doubt about that.

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They were railwaymen, there's no doubt.

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And we were taught under those men our tuition.

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See, when I was made a fireman first,

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they had their own engines in those days, their own shunting engines,

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and they would look after those engines

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like they belonged to them personally.

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See, they do all sorts of little things.

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We were taught to...

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The first three days I was made a fireman,

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I wasn't allowed to touch the shovel.

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The driver did the firing and the driving

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and when I started the fire,

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he put one up on the left front corner,

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one on the right back corner and reversed it.

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A few rubbers under the door, one up the front

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and he'd tell you why he put the rubbers under the door,

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always put your small up under the brick arch

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and all that sort of thing

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and that's what we were taught in our time.

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Well, the drivers, the old drivers, would see you did your work properly.

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It was really good training, really,

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and it would stand you in good stead now.

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It's a thing you never grow out of, sort of thing.

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It's rooted in you and you just can't adopt

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this couldn't-care-less attitude.

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Of course, we still maintain that pride right throughout our career.

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It's the way you're brought up.

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And I think once that gets into you, you can't get rid of it.

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Oh, I remember a great many of them.

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I remember my old mates when I was in the day.

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I had nearly ten years in the double-O at work.

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Harry Crumpton, he's retired and still going about.

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George Hicks is still alive.

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I suppose George Hicks is somewhere about 80.

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I can remember my first mate, but he's gone - Ern Wakely.

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Bill Luton - I remember quite a lot of 'em.

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Bill Bright, another of my old mates. One of the best.

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Done hundreds of miles with him.

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We always had an idea as firemen, "We can do that job," you know?

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But my old mate always said to me,

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"Ah, but it's a very lonely life being over here,"

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but we never realised that.

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Well, since I've been over there I found his words are very true.

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It is a lonely life because, you see, if you have a train,

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say it's a coal train, well, the weight behind you is tremendous.

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Well, you must be able to gauge the distance between signal and signal.

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It's not like a wheelbarrow where you can say put your foot down and say,

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"We are going to stop." Because you've got a man behind, a guard,

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and you've got a series of loose curtains between them all.

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Well, eventually, as you are applying the brakes,

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if you give too much brake then you're going to have

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a build-up of pressure continually

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and this man at the end really is going to be rapped about, you see?

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So you must be able to gauge the distance between signal and signal,

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especially if the distant signal is on.

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That means to say that the next signal could possibly be a danger.

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So you must be able to bring that train,

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you know, to a stop at the signal.

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So it takes a lot of skill.

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And the evening, especially at night-time,

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it seems as if you're on a different railway altogether.

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There's a vast difference between the railway at night-time and daytime.

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All you have then is just green lights to control you.

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You can't actually see the signal itself.

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You can't see the outlying district, you know?

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If there's a bit of fog, etc, well,

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then you must use your experience to guide you to these various points.

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So you can never say to the fireman, you know,

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"It's your fault." But it isn't - it always your fault.

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So it's rather a lonely life.

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It was a good railway.

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The Great Western Railway always thought a lot of their loco men,

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always did. I think more so than the other regions.

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Because we had the automatic safety device,

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which cost a lot of money in them days.

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We were the first railway to have that.

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And it was a wonderful thing, and it still is now.

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NARRATOR: And perhaps it's because of this human side of engine drivers

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that they are their own masters and elect their own representatives

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from among themselves to organise their duties.

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MAN: Well, it's an easier job altogether

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driving a hydraulic after the steam engine.

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The hydraulic is mechanically controlled

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and it's automatic gear changes and all that sort of thing.

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You haven't got that on a steam engine -

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you have to use your brains on a steam engine

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to keep your boiler right

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and not put the firemen down with his boiler or beat the firemen.

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The hydraulics are much easier altogether.

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SECOND MAN: I like the new...

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The new work, if you can term it,

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but there's still that old fascination for steam.

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Whilst I don't want to see it again

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there's always that element of love for the old machine

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that you had so many years earlier.

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Now, on the steam engine, of course, we used to get dirty.

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As it is now, we have facilities of washing etc,

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being able to go home tidy,

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but to me the whole thrill is still gone.

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There's something missing and always will be missing.

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So now it's a matter of coming to do your job

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to the best of your ability and leaving it be at that,

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whereas when we were all steam

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the conversation we used to eat, drink, sleep railway work.

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You know?

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I've gone out for an evening and met various railwaymen,

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so instead of it being concerned with the evening we were there

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I suppose for the next three hours

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we'd be arguing the toss about railway work, you see?

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So it was all our lives.

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You can see what I meant about this being a programme on human beings.

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The Great Western - it meant something.

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Great Western men were proud to belong to it

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just as a soldier is proud of his regiment,

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or a sailor of his ship.

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But since nationalisation, railwaymen have been messed about.

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But the railways are a way of life

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and they could be again if each line was given back

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the individuality and humane touch it once had.

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It shouldn't be difficult.

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The spirit and the traditions are there.

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