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archive programmes chosen by experts. | 0:00:34 | 0:00:37 | |
For this Collection, Gary Boyd-Hope | 0:00:37 | 0:00:39 | |
has selected programmes celebrating Britain's steam railway legacy. | 0:00:39 | 0:00:43 | |
More programmes on this theme | 0:00:43 | 0:00:45 | |
and other BBC Four Collections | 0:00:45 | 0:00:46 | |
are available on BBC iPlayer. | 0:00:46 | 0:00:48 | |
There used to be an old saying how any fool could start a steam engine | 0:01:44 | 0:01:49 | |
but to control it and bring it to a stand is an entirely different thing. | 0:01:49 | 0:01:53 | |
The thing about the job and the boys and that, | 0:01:53 | 0:01:55 | |
there's nothing like a steam engine. | 0:01:55 | 0:01:58 | |
I like the new work, if you can term it, | 0:01:58 | 0:02:04 | |
but there is still that old fascination for steam. | 0:02:04 | 0:02:07 | |
Whilst I don't want to see it again, there's always that | 0:02:07 | 0:02:11 | |
element of love for the old machine that you had for many years. | 0:02:11 | 0:02:14 | |
There are plenty of men in London clubs ready to write letters | 0:02:36 | 0:02:40 | |
to the papers about how the railways ought to be run | 0:02:40 | 0:02:44 | |
and there are plenty of cold-hearted Treasury nominees who will | 0:02:44 | 0:02:50 | |
invent arguments against having railways at all, | 0:02:50 | 0:02:55 | |
statistical ones, and, of course, | 0:02:55 | 0:02:58 | |
there are enemies of the railways in the road haulage industry but | 0:02:58 | 0:03:04 | |
this film, or rather programme, isn't about them - | 0:03:04 | 0:03:08 | |
it's about human beings, | 0:03:08 | 0:03:11 | |
men of steam, | 0:03:11 | 0:03:13 | |
and one particular bit of line. | 0:03:13 | 0:03:17 | |
You know its name already | 0:03:17 | 0:03:18 | |
because it said so at the beginning of the programme. | 0:03:18 | 0:03:21 | |
The line from Bristol to Paddington with one branch to | 0:03:21 | 0:03:25 | |
Bradford-on-Avon, one of its branches. | 0:03:25 | 0:03:28 | |
The Great Western Railway. | 0:03:28 | 0:03:31 | |
And here I am in the Railway Museum in the railway | 0:03:31 | 0:03:35 | |
town of Swindon where the Great Western Works are. | 0:03:35 | 0:03:41 | |
You know, the Great Western, it had great names. | 0:03:41 | 0:03:46 | |
Brunel, Daniel Gooch, Charles Saunders, William Dean, | 0:03:46 | 0:03:53 | |
Churchward, Hawksworth. | 0:03:53 | 0:03:56 | |
And, even now, | 0:03:58 | 0:04:00 | |
it's a great honour in Swindon to be in the Great Western Works. | 0:04:00 | 0:04:05 | |
That is to say what's called "inside" here in Swindon because, | 0:04:05 | 0:04:11 | |
in the past, it was connected with safety and a way of life. | 0:04:11 | 0:04:16 | |
Men could come in from the fields and find a job inside | 0:04:16 | 0:04:21 | |
and they were looked after all their lives by the Great Western. | 0:04:21 | 0:04:25 | |
It's a paternal thing and it goes from father to son | 0:04:25 | 0:04:29 | |
and there are plenty of people in Swindon whose fathers | 0:04:29 | 0:04:33 | |
and grandfathers and even great-grandfathers were inside, | 0:04:33 | 0:04:37 | |
as it's called, in the Great Western Works. | 0:04:37 | 0:04:41 | |
It's not surprising, really, as it's been going, the Great Western, | 0:04:41 | 0:04:45 | |
for over 120 years. | 0:04:45 | 0:04:48 | |
The Great Western was another word for the West of England. | 0:04:48 | 0:04:52 | |
It did everything. | 0:04:52 | 0:04:55 | |
It took us to the races, it ran four-horse brakes | 0:04:55 | 0:05:00 | |
and high-powered steamers, | 0:05:00 | 0:05:02 | |
it carried us on excursions to the seaside, | 0:05:02 | 0:05:07 | |
it brought us our food and coal. | 0:05:07 | 0:05:10 | |
True, there were other railways in the west | 0:05:10 | 0:05:12 | |
but the Great Western was the king of the lot. | 0:05:12 | 0:05:16 | |
It spread over Wales and up north to Birkenhead | 0:05:16 | 0:05:21 | |
and it sent boats from Fishguard to Ireland. | 0:05:21 | 0:05:24 | |
It bought up smaller lines and made a profit | 0:05:24 | 0:05:28 | |
right until the days of nationalisation. | 0:05:28 | 0:05:32 | |
It was as official and established as the cities of London and Bristol. | 0:05:32 | 0:05:37 | |
And there, in the company's crest, you can see | 0:05:37 | 0:05:40 | |
the arms of these two cities, the Great Western was built to join. | 0:05:40 | 0:05:46 | |
The cross and sword of London on the left, the ship and castle of Bristol. | 0:05:46 | 0:05:51 | |
The first engine for the new railway was ordered from Robert Stephenson. | 0:05:51 | 0:05:56 | |
There it is - the North Star. | 0:05:56 | 0:05:59 | |
And in 1838, it drew the first Great Western train | 0:06:00 | 0:06:07 | |
and it cost £4,000. | 0:06:07 | 0:06:09 | |
And by 1870, when the North Star was put out of commission, | 0:06:11 | 0:06:17 | |
she had done 420,000 miles. | 0:06:17 | 0:06:22 | |
Well done, old thing. | 0:06:22 | 0:06:25 | |
But what about the man who laid the track along which | 0:06:25 | 0:06:29 | |
the North Star was to go? What about him? | 0:06:29 | 0:06:32 | |
Isambard Kingdom Brunel, who died aged 53 in 1859, | 0:06:32 | 0:06:39 | |
a cigar-smoking, humorous and practical genius. | 0:06:39 | 0:06:44 | |
He wanted to link the world by steam | 0:06:44 | 0:06:47 | |
and designed this ironclad vessel to go from Bristol to New York, | 0:06:47 | 0:06:52 | |
a continuation of his Great Western Railway | 0:06:52 | 0:06:55 | |
from Bristol to London. | 0:06:55 | 0:06:57 | |
That drawing he made for Clifton Suspension Bridge | 0:06:57 | 0:07:00 | |
when he was only 24 shows the two sides of his character. | 0:07:00 | 0:07:05 | |
The bridge is drawn with all the precision of an engineer | 0:07:05 | 0:07:09 | |
and the gorge below it, with all the depth and romance of the artist. | 0:07:09 | 0:07:14 | |
And I think it was the artist in Brunel which made him | 0:07:15 | 0:07:20 | |
choose the Gothic style for the terminus of his railway at Bristol. | 0:07:20 | 0:07:25 | |
Gothic to go with the ancient city. | 0:07:25 | 0:07:27 | |
Paddington, at the London end of the line, is a complete contrast - | 0:07:28 | 0:07:33 | |
severely modern. Just glass and cast iron. | 0:07:33 | 0:07:38 | |
Brunel took great pride in Paddington Station, | 0:07:38 | 0:07:41 | |
because it was what it still is - the biggest building in London | 0:07:41 | 0:07:47 | |
with no outside walls. | 0:07:47 | 0:07:49 | |
it is just a cutting, roofed over with iron and glass. | 0:07:49 | 0:07:53 | |
When the young Brunel was asked to survey a route | 0:08:08 | 0:08:12 | |
from Bristol to London in 1835, | 0:08:12 | 0:08:14 | |
he refused to do so in competition with anyone else. | 0:08:14 | 0:08:19 | |
He told the directors of the new company | 0:08:19 | 0:08:21 | |
he would agree to survey only one road from Bristol to London | 0:08:21 | 0:08:25 | |
and that would be the best, not the cheapest. | 0:08:25 | 0:08:28 | |
And so it still is today - faster than any road route, | 0:08:28 | 0:08:33 | |
straight and level for the broad gauge engines of Daniel Gooch. | 0:08:33 | 0:08:39 | |
In the 1840s, a book of pictures of the line was published | 0:08:39 | 0:08:44 | |
and here's one of them coming. | 0:08:44 | 0:08:48 | |
The Wharncliffe Viaduct at Hanwell | 0:08:48 | 0:08:50 | |
in the Egyptian style Brunel was so fond of. | 0:08:50 | 0:08:55 | |
Just the same today. | 0:08:55 | 0:08:57 | |
Notice those flat brick arches | 0:08:58 | 0:09:00 | |
and then those flatter ones still over the Thames at Maidenhead, | 0:09:00 | 0:09:05 | |
the flattest brick arches ever made. | 0:09:05 | 0:09:07 | |
Critics thought the bridge would collapse | 0:09:07 | 0:09:10 | |
once the wooden centring was removed, | 0:09:10 | 0:09:12 | |
so for a joke Brunel left the centring | 0:09:12 | 0:09:14 | |
until it was blown away in a storm, | 0:09:14 | 0:09:16 | |
but the bridge has carried trains ever since | 0:09:16 | 0:09:19 | |
and so has Basildon bridge, there higher up on the Thames, | 0:09:19 | 0:09:23 | |
built on the same principles. | 0:09:23 | 0:09:25 | |
Brunel was a genius all right. | 0:09:27 | 0:09:29 | |
Look at the trouble he took over detail - | 0:09:29 | 0:09:32 | |
for instance, country stations. | 0:09:32 | 0:09:35 | |
There is the Pangbourne station as it once was | 0:09:35 | 0:09:38 | |
with a broad gauge engine waiting on the down platform. | 0:09:38 | 0:09:43 | |
Now, it so happens that there is one country station left on the line, | 0:09:43 | 0:09:48 | |
just as it was when Brunel designed it. | 0:09:48 | 0:09:50 | |
There it is - Shrivenham in Berkshire. | 0:09:52 | 0:09:56 | |
It's worth getting out and having a look at the trouble that he took | 0:09:56 | 0:10:01 | |
with this little station and with the house under the broad veranda. | 0:10:01 | 0:10:06 | |
You see, it was meant to look like the gate lodge of a great house, | 0:10:06 | 0:10:10 | |
but on the new iron road instead of the old turnpike. | 0:10:10 | 0:10:14 | |
Carved stone, Tudor style, to give a historic look | 0:10:14 | 0:10:19 | |
and local flints from the downs a few miles off | 0:10:19 | 0:10:22 | |
so that passengers would recognise | 0:10:22 | 0:10:24 | |
the nature of the country they were in, | 0:10:24 | 0:10:27 | |
and the flint all knapped at great expense. | 0:10:27 | 0:10:30 | |
Swindon was the place Daniel Gooch, | 0:10:33 | 0:10:35 | |
the company's first locomotive engineer, | 0:10:35 | 0:10:38 | |
chose for the Great Western works and repair shops. | 0:10:38 | 0:10:42 | |
It was on level ground, near a canal | 0:10:42 | 0:10:45 | |
and where the railway to Gloucester branched off. | 0:10:45 | 0:10:48 | |
The works now cover hundreds of acres | 0:10:48 | 0:10:52 | |
and there's no sign at all | 0:10:52 | 0:10:54 | |
of that original wooden engine house you see there | 0:10:54 | 0:10:58 | |
where Gooch stabled his iron horses. | 0:10:58 | 0:11:01 | |
But here's the remarkable thing about Swindon. | 0:11:04 | 0:11:07 | |
Do you see that recreation ground | 0:11:07 | 0:11:09 | |
over there beyond the houses in the middle distance? | 0:11:09 | 0:11:13 | |
It was once a cricket field. | 0:11:13 | 0:11:15 | |
Well, that ground and this church - the famous St Mark's, Swindon - | 0:11:15 | 0:11:22 | |
and that inn, and a mechanics institute near it | 0:11:22 | 0:11:25 | |
and all these little streets of well-built stone houses | 0:11:25 | 0:11:30 | |
were built by the Great Western for their own people. | 0:11:30 | 0:11:33 | |
It must be the first industrial estate in Britain, about 1840, | 0:11:33 | 0:11:38 | |
and it once stood in green fields away from the smoke. | 0:11:38 | 0:11:42 | |
It shows the paternal spirit of the Great Western, | 0:11:42 | 0:11:46 | |
which makes Swindon to this day such a friendly place. | 0:11:46 | 0:11:50 | |
When I came to Swindon 30 years ago, | 0:11:50 | 0:11:53 | |
I didn't have no intentions of staying here. | 0:11:53 | 0:11:55 | |
But I found it such a lovely place to live in and work in. | 0:11:56 | 0:12:00 | |
I found the Great Western at Swindon - | 0:12:01 | 0:12:04 | |
which was the home of the Great Western - | 0:12:04 | 0:12:06 | |
I found they were such a happy place here. | 0:12:06 | 0:12:11 | |
The management and men, it was one happy family in those days. | 0:12:11 | 0:12:15 | |
And I was very interested in the amenities that they had here. | 0:12:15 | 0:12:20 | |
If you wanted a doctor, if you wanted a bath, | 0:12:20 | 0:12:22 | |
if you wanted to read, if you wanted a book or anything at all, | 0:12:22 | 0:12:26 | |
you went to the Great Western. The Great Western ran the town. | 0:12:26 | 0:12:29 | |
But as the years have gone by, those things have changed. | 0:12:29 | 0:12:32 | |
Swindon today is not a railway town in any shape or form. | 0:12:32 | 0:12:37 | |
We're just a secondary consideration today | 0:12:37 | 0:12:40 | |
as far as railways are concerned. Everybody looked for a job - | 0:12:40 | 0:12:43 | |
everybody worked for the Great Western. | 0:12:43 | 0:12:46 | |
Well, they did go, our engines wanted some beating, | 0:12:46 | 0:12:48 | |
there's no doubt about it. There's no doubt about it. | 0:12:48 | 0:12:51 | |
The old... Castles, the Abbey class, they wanted some touching. | 0:12:51 | 0:12:57 | |
The 29s were good, but... | 0:12:57 | 0:12:59 | |
The four-cylinder engines, the Castle class and the Abbey class, | 0:13:00 | 0:13:03 | |
they were good engines, there's no doubt about it. | 0:13:03 | 0:13:05 | |
Now for the greatest obstacle on Brunel's iron road from Bristol. | 0:13:05 | 0:13:10 | |
The limestone hill between Corsham and Bath at Box. | 0:13:10 | 0:13:14 | |
Terror struck all England at his daring to drive a tunnel through it. | 0:13:14 | 0:13:19 | |
People said that only death and black disaster were ahead. | 0:13:19 | 0:13:23 | |
Out on the other side, after five years' work by thousands of men, | 0:13:27 | 0:13:33 | |
Brunel built a triumphal arch to the success of his Box Tunnel. | 0:13:33 | 0:13:38 | |
Over a bridge built to fit in with the Roman city, | 0:13:40 | 0:13:45 | |
smoothly the Great Western glides into Bath. | 0:13:45 | 0:13:48 | |
For the station, Brunel could not resist his romantic Tudor style | 0:13:50 | 0:13:57 | |
and it once had a wooden roof | 0:13:57 | 0:13:59 | |
like that which still survives at Temple Meads. | 0:13:59 | 0:14:03 | |
The street entrance was made to look like an Elizabethan country house | 0:14:03 | 0:14:08 | |
and something of the country house atmosphere survives at Bath station, | 0:14:08 | 0:14:12 | |
with the station master as a grand major-domo welcoming his visitors. | 0:14:12 | 0:14:18 | |
STATION MASTER: My usual day starts at 8.20. | 0:14:23 | 0:14:27 | |
The first train I have to see away is the 8.32 Pullman to Paddington. | 0:14:28 | 0:14:34 | |
After that I return to the office where the morning correspondence, | 0:14:34 | 0:14:39 | |
the morning mail, is ready. | 0:14:39 | 0:14:42 | |
I see the 9.32 out to London. | 0:14:42 | 0:14:45 | |
I then meet the 7.45 in from Paddington, which departs at 10.07. | 0:14:45 | 0:14:51 | |
It's followed by the Bristolian leaving at 10.28. | 0:14:51 | 0:14:57 | |
And returning again to the up platform for the 10.32. | 0:14:58 | 0:15:01 | |
And this is the mould and procedure, really, throughout the day. | 0:15:03 | 0:15:07 | |
Well, at a station like Bath, | 0:15:08 | 0:15:11 | |
one of the principal phases of the work here | 0:15:11 | 0:15:18 | |
has us in contact with the travelling public, | 0:15:18 | 0:15:22 | |
which includes many overseas visitors | 0:15:22 | 0:15:26 | |
and, of course, many people of rank and importance, | 0:15:26 | 0:15:32 | |
nationally or otherwise. | 0:15:32 | 0:15:34 | |
It's fallen to my lot to meet three members of the Royal family. | 0:15:37 | 0:15:43 | |
The Queen Mother, Princess Marina and Princess Margaret, | 0:15:43 | 0:15:48 | |
who is now, of course, a fairly frequent visitor to Bath. | 0:15:48 | 0:15:51 | |
And also many ambassadors visit Bath. | 0:15:52 | 0:15:57 | |
And it has been my duty on occasions when they are private visits | 0:15:58 | 0:16:04 | |
to receive them and to see to their wants to and from the station. | 0:16:04 | 0:16:08 | |
NARRATOR: The signal box at Bath is poised above the station platform. | 0:16:27 | 0:16:32 | |
The Great Western - | 0:16:38 | 0:16:41 | |
what is it, I wonder, which makes men so proud to have belonged to it? | 0:16:41 | 0:16:46 | |
STATION MASTER: Well, I think that goes back | 0:16:47 | 0:16:50 | |
to the time of Sir Felix Pole | 0:16:50 | 0:16:52 | |
who instituted a motto that the Great Western was a family concern. | 0:16:52 | 0:16:58 | |
You see, I in turn served under Mr Randolph Pole, | 0:16:58 | 0:17:03 | |
the brother of Sir Felix, | 0:17:03 | 0:17:06 | |
and they instilled into all around them | 0:17:06 | 0:17:10 | |
the theme that Great Western is a family concern. | 0:17:10 | 0:17:14 | |
And the Great Western employees were one large family. | 0:17:14 | 0:17:18 | |
And that did, no doubt, permutate down through... | 0:17:19 | 0:17:23 | |
Right from the top to the bottom of the old Great Western Railway. | 0:17:23 | 0:17:28 | |
And I think you will find that if you question any of the old members, | 0:17:28 | 0:17:32 | |
whether they are drivers, guards, signalmen, shunters, anybody, | 0:17:32 | 0:17:38 | |
that they all had that feeling that we were members of one big concern | 0:17:38 | 0:17:44 | |
and whatever we did, if we did it well it was to the good. | 0:17:44 | 0:17:48 | |
If we did it badly, we'd let the whole concern down. | 0:17:48 | 0:17:51 | |
NARRATOR: Away down the Avon Valley, out of Somerset into Wiltshire | 0:17:56 | 0:18:02 | |
on the branch line to Bradford-on-Avon. | 0:18:02 | 0:18:05 | |
My goodness - nothing like the peace of a branch line | 0:18:07 | 0:18:13 | |
and a well-kept country station. | 0:18:13 | 0:18:15 | |
It's a satisfying peace. | 0:18:17 | 0:18:19 | |
With plenty of life and plenty to do | 0:18:19 | 0:18:24 | |
and where the porter has time to dream of the station competition. | 0:18:24 | 0:18:29 | |
RELIEF PORTER: Well, I came on relief when the resident porter passed away. | 0:18:35 | 0:18:38 | |
I didn't like to see the gardens go back | 0:18:38 | 0:18:41 | |
so I just took them on and started doing them. | 0:18:41 | 0:18:44 | |
I asked if it'd be all right. | 0:18:44 | 0:18:46 | |
We might as well keep them up together now they are up together. | 0:18:46 | 0:18:49 | |
But I had thought about taking the garden prize, | 0:18:49 | 0:18:53 | |
or having a go at it anyway, | 0:18:53 | 0:18:54 | |
but they've cut that out now as a garden competition | 0:18:54 | 0:18:57 | |
and they've got in as a station competition. | 0:18:57 | 0:18:59 | |
Well I wish we're lucky enough in that. I don't know. | 0:18:59 | 0:19:02 | |
We're going to have a try anyway to keep the station up together. | 0:19:02 | 0:19:04 | |
In the past there was a Mr Davies. A retired porter, he recently retired. | 0:19:04 | 0:19:10 | |
He was here, I believe, 40-odd years. | 0:19:10 | 0:19:12 | |
He took several first prizes and special prizes. | 0:19:12 | 0:19:16 | |
So I thought we might get some of them back again, | 0:19:16 | 0:19:18 | |
but unfortunately it doesn't sound like that now. | 0:19:18 | 0:19:21 | |
We've only got the three relief porters here. | 0:19:21 | 0:19:24 | |
There's no permanent porter here at all now. | 0:19:24 | 0:19:27 | |
They get the credit for the station the same as I do. | 0:19:27 | 0:19:30 | |
I just do the gardening, that's all. | 0:19:30 | 0:19:32 | |
I can't take the credit for keeping the station altogether | 0:19:32 | 0:19:35 | |
because when they're here, they do it | 0:19:35 | 0:19:38 | |
and I just keep the gardens up as well as the station. | 0:19:38 | 0:19:42 | |
We haven't had any complaints yet from the station master | 0:19:42 | 0:19:44 | |
about the dirtiness of the station. | 0:19:44 | 0:19:46 | |
NARRATOR: That's the 3.45 from Westbury. | 0:20:00 | 0:20:04 | |
All stations. | 0:20:04 | 0:20:05 | |
She'll call at Limpley Stoke and Bathampton | 0:20:07 | 0:20:10 | |
and she should be in Bath by 4.23. | 0:20:10 | 0:20:14 | |
FARMER WHISTLES | 0:20:30 | 0:20:32 | |
FARMER SHOUTS INDISTINCTLY | 0:20:37 | 0:20:40 | |
Oi, oi, oi, oi, oi. Come on, come on. | 0:20:40 | 0:20:44 | |
Come on. | 0:20:44 | 0:20:46 | |
PORTER: I think she lay down in the gutter now. | 0:20:46 | 0:20:48 | |
That's right, farmer, shut that gate up. | 0:20:48 | 0:20:50 | |
I can't get 'em back through the wire. | 0:20:52 | 0:20:55 | |
THEY SHOUT INDISTINCTLY | 0:20:58 | 0:21:00 | |
Come on. | 0:21:09 | 0:21:10 | |
Come on. | 0:21:15 | 0:21:17 | |
NARRATOR: I think you can get nearest to the heart of the railway | 0:21:39 | 0:21:43 | |
and know what being a railwayman is by talking to the engine drivers. | 0:21:43 | 0:21:48 | |
They have calm judgment, knowledge, skill and experience. | 0:21:49 | 0:21:55 | |
They've gained these from each other since the days of Brunel and Gooch. | 0:21:55 | 0:22:00 | |
Well, in our days under the old Great Western Railway, | 0:22:00 | 0:22:04 | |
we didn't have no fire inspectors or anyone like that in those days. | 0:22:04 | 0:22:09 | |
We had locomotive inspectors but not firemen, not fire inspectors, | 0:22:09 | 0:22:12 | |
and we were tutored and taught by the drivers. | 0:22:12 | 0:22:15 | |
See, the first job we did was to go on the pilots | 0:22:15 | 0:22:19 | |
and we were learnt from those drivers that were.. | 0:22:19 | 0:22:24 | |
..what you can call... | 0:22:26 | 0:22:29 | |
..real railwaymen. There was no doubt about that. | 0:22:32 | 0:22:34 | |
They were railwaymen, there's no doubt. | 0:22:34 | 0:22:37 | |
And we were taught under those men our tuition. | 0:22:37 | 0:22:42 | |
See, when I was made a fireman first, | 0:22:42 | 0:22:44 | |
they had their own engines in those days, their own shunting engines, | 0:22:44 | 0:22:47 | |
and they would look after those engines | 0:22:47 | 0:22:49 | |
like they belonged to them personally. | 0:22:49 | 0:22:52 | |
See, they do all sorts of little things. | 0:22:52 | 0:22:54 | |
We were taught to... | 0:22:56 | 0:22:57 | |
The first three days I was made a fireman, | 0:22:57 | 0:23:00 | |
I wasn't allowed to touch the shovel. | 0:23:00 | 0:23:01 | |
The driver did the firing and the driving | 0:23:01 | 0:23:05 | |
and when I started the fire, | 0:23:05 | 0:23:07 | |
he put one up on the left front corner, | 0:23:07 | 0:23:10 | |
one on the right back corner and reversed it. | 0:23:10 | 0:23:12 | |
A few rubbers under the door, one up the front | 0:23:12 | 0:23:14 | |
and he'd tell you why he put the rubbers under the door, | 0:23:14 | 0:23:16 | |
always put your small up under the brick arch | 0:23:16 | 0:23:18 | |
and all that sort of thing | 0:23:18 | 0:23:20 | |
and that's what we were taught in our time. | 0:23:20 | 0:23:22 | |
Well, the drivers, the old drivers, would see you did your work properly. | 0:23:41 | 0:23:45 | |
It was really good training, really, | 0:23:45 | 0:23:47 | |
and it would stand you in good stead now. | 0:23:47 | 0:23:49 | |
It's a thing you never grow out of, sort of thing. | 0:23:50 | 0:23:53 | |
It's rooted in you and you just can't adopt | 0:23:53 | 0:23:56 | |
this couldn't-care-less attitude. | 0:23:56 | 0:23:58 | |
Of course, we still maintain that pride right throughout our career. | 0:23:58 | 0:24:03 | |
It's the way you're brought up. | 0:24:03 | 0:24:05 | |
And I think once that gets into you, you can't get rid of it. | 0:24:05 | 0:24:07 | |
Oh, I remember a great many of them. | 0:24:07 | 0:24:10 | |
I remember my old mates when I was in the day. | 0:24:10 | 0:24:12 | |
I had nearly ten years in the double-O at work. | 0:24:12 | 0:24:15 | |
Harry Crumpton, he's retired and still going about. | 0:24:17 | 0:24:21 | |
George Hicks is still alive. | 0:24:21 | 0:24:22 | |
I suppose George Hicks is somewhere about 80. | 0:24:22 | 0:24:25 | |
I can remember my first mate, but he's gone - Ern Wakely. | 0:24:27 | 0:24:30 | |
Bill Luton - I remember quite a lot of 'em. | 0:24:32 | 0:24:34 | |
Bill Bright, another of my old mates. One of the best. | 0:24:36 | 0:24:39 | |
Done hundreds of miles with him. | 0:24:40 | 0:24:42 | |
We always had an idea as firemen, "We can do that job," you know? | 0:24:59 | 0:25:03 | |
But my old mate always said to me, | 0:25:03 | 0:25:05 | |
"Ah, but it's a very lonely life being over here," | 0:25:05 | 0:25:07 | |
but we never realised that. | 0:25:07 | 0:25:09 | |
Well, since I've been over there I found his words are very true. | 0:25:09 | 0:25:13 | |
It is a lonely life because, you see, if you have a train, | 0:25:13 | 0:25:16 | |
say it's a coal train, well, the weight behind you is tremendous. | 0:25:16 | 0:25:20 | |
Well, you must be able to gauge the distance between signal and signal. | 0:25:20 | 0:25:23 | |
It's not like a wheelbarrow where you can say put your foot down and say, | 0:25:23 | 0:25:27 | |
"We are going to stop." Because you've got a man behind, a guard, | 0:25:27 | 0:25:30 | |
and you've got a series of loose curtains between them all. | 0:25:30 | 0:25:32 | |
Well, eventually, as you are applying the brakes, | 0:25:32 | 0:25:35 | |
if you give too much brake then you're going to have | 0:25:35 | 0:25:37 | |
a build-up of pressure continually | 0:25:37 | 0:25:38 | |
and this man at the end really is going to be rapped about, you see? | 0:25:38 | 0:25:42 | |
So you must be able to gauge the distance between signal and signal, | 0:25:42 | 0:25:45 | |
especially if the distant signal is on. | 0:25:45 | 0:25:46 | |
That means to say that the next signal could possibly be a danger. | 0:25:46 | 0:25:50 | |
So you must be able to bring that train, | 0:25:50 | 0:25:52 | |
you know, to a stop at the signal. | 0:25:52 | 0:25:54 | |
So it takes a lot of skill. | 0:25:56 | 0:25:58 | |
And the evening, especially at night-time, | 0:25:58 | 0:26:01 | |
it seems as if you're on a different railway altogether. | 0:26:01 | 0:26:03 | |
There's a vast difference between the railway at night-time and daytime. | 0:26:03 | 0:26:07 | |
All you have then is just green lights to control you. | 0:26:07 | 0:26:09 | |
You can't actually see the signal itself. | 0:26:09 | 0:26:12 | |
You can't see the outlying district, you know? | 0:26:12 | 0:26:14 | |
If there's a bit of fog, etc, well, | 0:26:14 | 0:26:15 | |
then you must use your experience to guide you to these various points. | 0:26:15 | 0:26:19 | |
So you can never say to the fireman, you know, | 0:26:20 | 0:26:24 | |
"It's your fault." But it isn't - it always your fault. | 0:26:24 | 0:26:28 | |
So it's rather a lonely life. | 0:26:28 | 0:26:29 | |
It was a good railway. | 0:26:29 | 0:26:31 | |
The Great Western Railway always thought a lot of their loco men, | 0:26:31 | 0:26:36 | |
always did. I think more so than the other regions. | 0:26:36 | 0:26:39 | |
Because we had the automatic safety device, | 0:26:40 | 0:26:44 | |
which cost a lot of money in them days. | 0:26:44 | 0:26:46 | |
We were the first railway to have that. | 0:26:46 | 0:26:48 | |
And it was a wonderful thing, and it still is now. | 0:26:48 | 0:26:51 | |
NARRATOR: And perhaps it's because of this human side of engine drivers | 0:26:53 | 0:26:57 | |
that they are their own masters and elect their own representatives | 0:26:57 | 0:27:02 | |
from among themselves to organise their duties. | 0:27:02 | 0:27:06 | |
MAN: Well, it's an easier job altogether | 0:27:13 | 0:27:15 | |
driving a hydraulic after the steam engine. | 0:27:15 | 0:27:17 | |
The hydraulic is mechanically controlled | 0:27:17 | 0:27:20 | |
and it's automatic gear changes and all that sort of thing. | 0:27:20 | 0:27:24 | |
You haven't got that on a steam engine - | 0:27:24 | 0:27:27 | |
you have to use your brains on a steam engine | 0:27:27 | 0:27:30 | |
to keep your boiler right | 0:27:30 | 0:27:32 | |
and not put the firemen down with his boiler or beat the firemen. | 0:27:32 | 0:27:36 | |
The hydraulics are much easier altogether. | 0:27:36 | 0:27:39 | |
SECOND MAN: I like the new... | 0:27:41 | 0:27:43 | |
The new work, if you can term it, | 0:27:43 | 0:27:46 | |
but there's still that old fascination for steam. | 0:27:46 | 0:27:49 | |
Whilst I don't want to see it again | 0:27:49 | 0:27:51 | |
there's always that element of love for the old machine | 0:27:51 | 0:27:55 | |
that you had so many years earlier. | 0:27:55 | 0:27:57 | |
Now, on the steam engine, of course, we used to get dirty. | 0:28:03 | 0:28:06 | |
As it is now, we have facilities of washing etc, | 0:28:06 | 0:28:10 | |
being able to go home tidy, | 0:28:10 | 0:28:12 | |
but to me the whole thrill is still gone. | 0:28:12 | 0:28:15 | |
There's something missing and always will be missing. | 0:28:15 | 0:28:18 | |
So now it's a matter of coming to do your job | 0:28:18 | 0:28:21 | |
to the best of your ability and leaving it be at that, | 0:28:21 | 0:28:24 | |
whereas when we were all steam | 0:28:24 | 0:28:26 | |
the conversation we used to eat, drink, sleep railway work. | 0:28:26 | 0:28:30 | |
You know? | 0:28:30 | 0:28:32 | |
I've gone out for an evening and met various railwaymen, | 0:28:32 | 0:28:36 | |
so instead of it being concerned with the evening we were there | 0:28:36 | 0:28:39 | |
I suppose for the next three hours | 0:28:39 | 0:28:40 | |
we'd be arguing the toss about railway work, you see? | 0:28:40 | 0:28:43 | |
So it was all our lives. | 0:28:43 | 0:28:44 | |
You can see what I meant about this being a programme on human beings. | 0:29:00 | 0:29:06 | |
The Great Western - it meant something. | 0:29:06 | 0:29:09 | |
Great Western men were proud to belong to it | 0:29:09 | 0:29:13 | |
just as a soldier is proud of his regiment, | 0:29:13 | 0:29:16 | |
or a sailor of his ship. | 0:29:16 | 0:29:19 | |
But since nationalisation, railwaymen have been messed about. | 0:29:19 | 0:29:24 | |
But the railways are a way of life | 0:29:27 | 0:29:31 | |
and they could be again if each line was given back | 0:29:31 | 0:29:36 | |
the individuality and humane touch it once had. | 0:29:36 | 0:29:41 | |
It shouldn't be difficult. | 0:29:43 | 0:29:45 | |
The spirit and the traditions are there. | 0:29:45 | 0:29:49 |