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There is our latest headlines. Now on BBC News it's time for Inside

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Out. Tracking down the fly-tippers

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who are plaguing our countryside. It actually makes me feel even more

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determined to look harder and wider for just that one piece of post

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with the names that we can take Our correspondent looks at extreme

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solutions to littering. How do you feel seeing your name on the

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Internet? I was embarrassed, I was mortified. If my kids grow up later

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on in life and look at my name on the Internet, that is what will come

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up. And rats on the rampage. How are dirty habits are attracting

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unwelcome visitors. They aren't shy, they don't mind rain or daylight.

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They don't mind people walking around. The feeling of disgust is

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horrible. You shouldn't be living with that. I Seb Choudhury, and this

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is Inside Out. Parts of the British countryside are

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becoming a dumping ground for fly-tippers. It is illegal and costs

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millions of pounds every to clean up. It doesn't take a genius to work

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out that doesn't belong there. So we set about trying catch a fly-tipper

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in the act. We set up our secret cameras in one of the West's worst

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fly-tipping spots. To catch offenders breaking the law. Prepare

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to be disgusted at what some people dump. Just lots more to. Be warned,

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fly-tippers, inside out is on the case. -- Inside Out is on the case.

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Fly-tipping is not a new problem, but it is getting worse and worse in

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the West, causing a scar on the landscape. It costs councils in

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England an estimated ?50 million a year to clean up. And private land

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owners are staggered blink ?150 million, money that comes out of

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that pockets. It can be electrical goods, old cities, birds. It's a

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hell of a problem this man is at his wits end, with waste dumped on his

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land almost every week. We have to speak to the local council about

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that, wait for them to come in to clear it. Time that we lose and with

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farming, it's just a matter of we have to do the job on that day. It

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stops us doing that work. We might have something that can help him.

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CCTV is proving successful in catching those responsible for

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fly-tipping, and as this is a prime spot, what better place to install

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Inside Out's very own secret cameras? Hopefully, we can catch

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someone in the act. Waste dumped here comes in all shapes and sizes.

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You've found some pretty strange things left as well, haven't you?

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The strangest thing that we found left in the countryside was right on

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the spot here. It was an actual JCB, Park here one night. The police came

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to me and said the public were being distracted by it. In the West,

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fly-tipping has increased by a third in the past three years. From just

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over 20,000 incidents a year to almost 30,000. Hard evidence is

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needed for a prosecution, and cameras get convictions. Take this

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example from the Environment Agency. A builder decided to dump and burn

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waste from his site in a field in Somerset. Unbelievable, but he

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didn't get away with it. He was successfully prosecuted in May, and

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is now banned from handling waste. Pretty tricky considering he's a

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builder. Back at the farm in Gloucestershire, I wonder how I

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hidden cameras are getting on. Well, not a great deal goes on at first.

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Then this happens. The council putting up a sign to try to prevent

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fly-tippers. A couple of days later, we catch something that looks more

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interesting. A truck arrives, loaded. Two men then appear to

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unlock the tailgate. I wonder why. And then carry on their merry way.

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The next morning, we get a call from Ian, the farmer. The worst case of

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fly-tipping he has ever seen, just a few metres along from our cameras.

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Coincidence? The council enforcement team are already here, searching for

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evidence. And believe me, you need a strong stomach for this. Dog to.

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Dirty nappy. --. Waste. Oh my God! More dog waste. Just lots

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more waste. Somebody has put this in the middle-of-the-road, and they

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just think that's it. It's gone, it's out of their life, it's not

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their problem any more. It actually makes me feel even more determined

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to look harder and wider, for just that one piece of post or one

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delivery item that has the address on it, with the name so we can take

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these people to court. Because this is just disgusting. We have a bag of

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shoes, I think it is just a bag of shoes. We never know what we have

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found at the bottom. They are looking for clues to find whoever

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dumped this waste, and getting their hands dirty is all part of the job.

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Here is something. Wiltshire Constabulary. Something else. Theft

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of a wild creature. First bit of evidence, a summons for poaching.

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Could this be linked to the fly-tippers? The team still need to

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find more. You sometimes find hidden gems.

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Car parts. A broken broom. Shoes. Hang on, hang on, hang on. This

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looks like we might have hit the jackpot. We've got personal account

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numbers. With names and addresses. National insurance numbers. We've

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pretty much got everything we need in one bag. Finding a crucial bit of

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evidence like this can make a case. But perhaps that footage our secret

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cameras recorded could prove significant. What's that on top? It

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looks familiar. You can clearly see the truck with the car door panel

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and so far. We've caught the fly-tippers. And they were not

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deterred by the signs. Beginning of last week, the council came out and

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put these signs up to try and stop people from fly-tipping. A few days

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later, ironically, one of the worst cases of fly-tipping we've ever had

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happens right next to is there to stop people from fly-tipping. I

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think people that do this sort of thing don't really take much notice

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of science. I think they take much more notice of actual, you know,

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getting prosecuted. -- notice of signs. A few weeks later, the road

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is cleared. But Lucy is still on the case. We sent an invite to the

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individual asking them to come for an interview and a caution, which

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they did not attend. We would like to persevere with finding the

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individual and just working out what their take on that is. We will do

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what we can to try and find the individual. If they make it to

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court, they could be looking at two up to ?50,000 in fines and six

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months in prison. The council may now hire a special investigator to

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track down the fly-tippers. All of it at a cost to the taxpayer. But as

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I've found, bringing offenders to justice is a difficult and dirty

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business. Even when there is plenty of evidence.

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Coming up, rats on the rampage. I used to come down here on my

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motorbike pretty much every night, around 8pm or 9pm. There'd be

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scattering. I run over countless amounts. We are the ones attracting

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them by making this sort of waste. I would say it's more of a human

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problem than a rat problem. Tracking down the people who file up our

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countryside isn't easy. So how about trying to prevent them from doing it

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in the first place? We asked our correspondent to look at some of the

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more radical approaches to addressing this problem.

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As somebody who is a lover of the great British outdoors, there's

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nothing I find more depressing than this, litter. It's disgusting, it's

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dangerous, it's depressing. But most of all, it's just lazy. I really

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want to find out what. People doing it. Could gentle persuasion work? Or

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do we have to get tough? Dropping one cigarette, I face a fine of over

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?600. Or is the answer is Big Brother approach? First up, I'm in

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Gloucestershire at a wildlife beauty spot I know well. Here in the Forest

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of Dean, litter is a massive problem. With over 60 fly-tips

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reported each and every month. And the crazy thing is, the vast

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majority of it can be disposed of quite legally. I know and love the

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beautiful Forest of Dean, and it does tend to get spoiled by the

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litter. How big is the problem? We have spots where it's particularly

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bad, and then other areas where sometimes as really bad, if someone

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has had a party or something like that. Other times, especially with

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the recreation sites, it's a problem overnight when people have been on

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the recreation sites during the day, then they have left their litter

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behind. Is there one piece of it easy more than any other? I think it

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is nappies. It sounds nasty, but animals eat the gel from inside. It

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fills their stomachs, then they started. So it is a really nasty one

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to find in the forest. -- then they starve to death. Make a funny nose,

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but the eyes are the thing. To tackle the problem, these children

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are designing scary faces. To be made out of rubbish collected from

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their local streets. What else have you drawn on there? I've done a

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moustache and a red nose. If this is up on a tree looking down at you, do

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you think that. People dropping litter? Yeah. It would strop me

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dropping litter, I will tell you that. That is one of the best faces,

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that is absolutely brilliant. The finished faces are hung from trees

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in litter hotspots around the forest. It is an unmistakably gentle

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approach, devised by an environmental charity using

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something called nudging. Nudges a behavioural concept which suggests

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that using positive reinforcement and indirect prompting, you can

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encourage people to change their behaviour. For the communities, the

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nudge is the eyes on the trees, which basically makes people feel

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like they are being watched. This is being reinforced by the plaques

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which they take your litter home. A lot of people know that litter is an

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anti-social thing to do. The eyes there create that sense of being

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watched. And hopefully encourage people to not drop litter, and take

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it home when they are in a beautiful place like the Forest of Dean. Where

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did you get the inspiration? We initially came across a campaign in

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Rotterdam, in an area with a high crime rate. They put 10,000 cartoon

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eyes on bus stops, sides of buildings. They saw the crime rates

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drop quite dramatically. I love what they are doing here. It is fun,

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creative and positive way to tackle what is an insidious issue. I just

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hope it works. Appealing to our better nature seems a nice idea. But

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perhaps the answer is something with a bit more clout. We will find out

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whodunnit. In south Wales, they have declared war on litter. They have

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put officers on the street armed with cameras. They have a website

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where they post photos of people they want to talk to. In London,

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Natalie was named and shamed. She now faces a fine of more than ?600

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for dropping a cigarette. There were no litter bins around at the time,

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or anything. There was a little green box next to me. I just added

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it on there and put down the side. As I got into the shop doors, this

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guy approached me and he was just like, I'm giving you fine. And I

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started laughing at him and I said, for what? And he said for dropping a

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cigarette. He handed me an ?80 fine. I refused to pay it. And then a few

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months ago, I was looking through my phone, putting my name in Google and

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my name came up in the London papers. I was actually taken to

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court, that I wasn't aware of. I also was on the Hall of shame. How

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did you feel seeing your name on the Internet? I was embarrassed,

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mortified to be honest. I thought, oh my God, can't believe my name's

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there. If my kids look my name up later in life, that is what will

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come up. Naming and shaming undoubtedly sends a strong message,

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but it relies on catching people red-handed. So what if there were an

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approach which could catch the culprit, even though the actual act

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of littering hadn't been observed in the first place? In Hong Kong,

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they've imagined a world where litter is DNA tested and a Photofit

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of the suspect created. But could this really work? At Kings College

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London, they're using Inu technique. It can identify particular parts of

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the person was like. Can they tell me who drops the bottle? We do have

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a full profile. It is from a male. But we have also looked at some

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visible characteristics. That is what you can see here on the screen.

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Across the top, we have some information about the person's hair

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colour. We can say they're definitely not blonde or redhead.

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Probably more like Brown, dark brown. And down here we have the eye

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colour results, which is definitely brown. Fascinating. What about

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ethnicity? This graph down here shows different populations around

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the world. This purple group, are Europeans. And this red dot is where

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the person sits, who I think are very likely to be pale skinned. The

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closest match are from Britain, so it may be somebody from the UK.

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That's astonishing. It's time to confess. It was me what dropped the

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bottle. I did have brown hair, dark brown hair, before I lost at! I

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missed definitely have brown eyes. And I am British. I'm impressed by

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how much information they can extract from one discarded bottle.

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Could this be the way to go after litter louts in the future? I think

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it's crazy, if you're talking about catching somebody who's dropped

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litter. It's too expensive. The result that you get can't be used in

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a court of law, it won't be precise enough. It will mean that the

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enforcement agencies are targeting people, the majority of them will be

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innocent. So after all that, what is the best way to tackle littering?

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Councils are dishing out more fines, and it's clearly putting people off.

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It taught me not to drop a cigarette ever again. I don't smoke if I'm

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out, if I go to town, I don't smoke. Because don't want to constantly

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look over my shoulder if there's not been around, if anyone will be

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behind me with a ticket book ready to give me a ticket. Meanwhile in

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the Forest of Dean, volunteers litter around the community has gone

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around. -- around the trees. I'm interested to see the effort that

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has gone in. Irrespective of whether it is the carrot or the stick

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approach, if it works I'm up for it. If you don't want Mike on your case,

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put your rubbish in the bin. Now, one of the more unpleasant result of

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not bringing our waste is that pest control call ups are on the rise.

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Kersten has been on the raft Trail in Newcastle. -- on the rat Trail.

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So, you're rat, you fancy a late-night feed. You come here.

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Welcome to Chinatown, ratty city. It's is well-known for its Chinese

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population, now it's becoming famous for its rodent population, too. This

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was filmed behind the street by someone on a night out. Because of

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all the Chinese restaurant here, there is all-you-can-eat banquet for

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them, too. It's an issue that's been in the headlines over a year. So

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I've come to find out if Newcastle really does have a rat problem. This

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man is a wildlife cameraman. He's come to help us get to the bottom of

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it. Found something down there already? A lovely big rathole down

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there. I'm just going to plug myself behind one of the bins and hopefully

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catch one of them coming out. Darkness falls, and there is a

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stirring. There's been knocked over on the

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ground, and there is a pile of rubbish. They are feeding in two

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paces. There must be about ten rats coming out. He has been filming for

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three hours. The rats are coming from the town wall, or holes in the

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ground. There is a lot of food for them, so you expect them to come in

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straight to the food. They are aware of our presence, but they are still

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sniffing the air, testing to see if there are people about. It is clear

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that rubbish is the problem, and businesses say it has been for

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years. Michael works at the snooker club. I've probably seen upwards 30

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- 50. I used to come here my motorbike pretty much every night,

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around 8pm or 9pm. I've run over countless, they would be scuttling.

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There's a bit of a bump. I don't see it as that much of a problem. They

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have as much right to be here as we do. We are the ones attracting them

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by making this sort of waste. It is more a human problem than it is a

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rat problem, I would say. Is the rat problem getting worse? In the year

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to March 2014, Newcastle City Council had more than 2100 calls

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about rats. That number went up for the same period the following year.

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And in the 12 months to March this year? Well, there were 3767 calls. A

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rise of more than 40%. Is just going to increase and increase, or will

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you get a point we have to tackle it? We do tackle the caused by rats.

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The main problem is that businesses don't store their refuge properly.

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Sometimes, you go round the city and use the wheelie bins piled high.

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Businesses just should not store their waist like that, we should not

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tolerate that. The restaurant owner in the street has done everything

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they can. To ensure that there are no rat inside the restaurant.

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Outside the restaurant, it is the council's responsibility. The main

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problem is the homeless people around this area. They go through

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the bins, stir up the rubbish, leave it outside the bin. We will write to

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the leader of the council to have a meeting with them, to resolve this

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problem. Michael's bar pays ?250 a month from locked bins, but does

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everyone else? Our business is doing enough? Very possibly not, if it is

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being filmed by the BBC and is an issue. If waste management companies

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will put their prices so high, what will happen? This will happen.

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Cost-cutting is bringing rats to Newcastle's business premises, but

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what about Holmes? The rubbish around you is getting worse and

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worse over the last few years. Basically since the council cuts.

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There is one where rare thought this really needs to be documented, so I

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started taking a video. -- where I really thought. Almost as soon as I

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had started filming, that is when the rats appeared. She had stumbled

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upon rat Ali. -- rat alley. In Chinatown, they

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don't care, but here they don't care. They don't care. They don't

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mind rain, daylight. They don't mind people walking around. The feeling

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is horrible, of disgust. You shouldn't be living with that. Some

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of the back lanes in residential areas, it's horrendous the way that

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people think that they can live. Is not the case if you're getting cuts

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financially, you're going to be able to do less? At the moment we offer a

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service to businesses and residents. We have a duty to carry on treating

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rats. In terms of enforcement, where we see issues, we will serve notice

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on landlords and tenants to deal with those rubbish issues. Newcastle

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offers match for a rat. Good accommodation, food. The council

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budget's squeeze, while businesses are cutting costs, too. But the

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solution seems very simple. The primary sources the food. Get rid of

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that waste food on the floor, the knocked over bins. Then you'll see

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the rat population reduced. Until next time, good night.

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Some wet weather working into the north-west of UK tonight. Elsewhere,

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most places have a dry

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