Episode 27 Inside Out

"where the abuse of women has often

been accepted and normalised."

Now on BBC News, it's Inside Out.

We track down the online crooks.

I'm not buying

a passport off you mate

because I work for the BBC,

and I want to know why you're...

selling stolen passports,

mate, why are you

doing it?

No more nursing bursaries.

So how will it affect

this year's students?

Hello, what's your name, sir.

His name is Tom.

They are learning practical

skills of nursing

in our hospital, that

means that they are

paying the privilege

of

working in our NHS.

And I promise we'll meet

the Muslim scouts of

Gillingham.

I promise.

We formed the Muslim Scout groups

because we can cater

for their religious

and cultural needs.

I'm Natalie Graham with untold

stories closer to home.

This is inside out.

Hello and welcome to the programme

which this week comes to you

from the Medway towns.

First tonight what do

you look for in the

classified ads?

Furniture perhaps or a new car?

Well Jonathan Gibson has been

sniffing around here in Chatham

as he investigates one online site

where the criminals are looking for

more than a bargain.

As an investigative journalist,

it is sometimes easier to work

when the office is nice and quiet.

When people are not watching

what you are doing.

Like investigating the dark web.

If you are looking for something

illegal, it is the go-to part

of the internet which is hidden

from prying eyes.

The place where criminals

use encrypted websites

and virtual currencies to trade.

Trade?

You don't need to

bother with all that.

You are wasting your

time with that, mate.

Sorry?

You can get all that on Craigslist.

I'll show you.

Shouldn't you be getting on...

I've got ten minutes.

Brilliant.

Log on.

Yeah, Craigslist.

It was setup in America

by a guy called Craig.

It is a website where people

buy and sell everything

and I mean everything.

Just say where you live

and get started.

Lots of the stuff on Craigslist

will not be in your local newspaper,

including bootleg tobacco.

The kind of thing you usually buy

from a dodgy geezer outside

a pub or in this case

a supermarket car park.

I have literally just started.

They're knocked off then?

Yes.

They are packed but they cannot

resell them in shops anymore.

Where did you get them?

I have no idea.

OK.

He is just a middleman,

he says his supplier

is someone else on Craigslist.

I've seen some crazy

stuff on Craiglist!

So have I.

That is why I have come

to another car park,

ready for another dodgy deal.

This is counterfeit?

Yes.

That's why his tobacco is a third

of the price of the real stuff.

Do you smoke it yourself?

Yeah.

Can you tell the difference?

No, I can't.

There is a difference

because counterfeit goods are among

the things Craigslist says you're

not supposed to sell on its website.

It is illegal.

But no one takes any notice of that.

Do you mind?

But he has a point, look at this.

It is as easy to find

marijuana on Craigslist

as it is a second-hand sofa.

And you might need a seat

as what I am buying next

could knock you off your feet.

I am on a Derby estate

to meet Stephen, selling

cocaine on Craigslist.

How are you?

Cheers.

The deal done in seconds

but is it the real deal?

It turns out as street cocaine

goes, it is pure stuff.

What is it doing on Craigslist?

I am shocked.

It is not difficult.

An internet company allows elements

on to their website.

But if you have made money from

crime, you would not want the police

to find it so you need

someone to hide it, perhaps

in their bank account.

It is called money laundering

but where would I find

someone to do that?

On a street corner,

I am meeting Stacey.

She is offering her bank account

on Craigslist to anyone

who wants to use it.

But we are walking into the bank

to pay in what I told her

is money got from crime.

She would charge me a fee to get it

back and there are plenty of people

on Craigslist who will

do the same thing.

Sometimes through

overseas bank accounts.

If you send your money overseas,

how'd you get it back?

What you need is a new identity

or better still somebody's else's.

You again.

I know where you can get it.

Don't say it.

HE MOUTHS.

Craigslist.

The place where I can find a stolen

passport at Chatham in Kent.

And there are plenty more

where that came from.

I've known some stories where it

has taken people ten

years to get their credit

rating back again after it has

been trashed by people

who stole their identity but it

will allow you to get

on and commit other crimes.

It is not just about selling stuff,

there are adverts for a postman

to steal the letters

they are supposed to be delivering.

And on Craigslist there's

also disorganised crime.

This man wants somebody to pass his

driving theory test for him.

What is the deal?

I go in and take the test?

For 50 quid, it is not

that black and white.

For a start he is black and I am

white, surely someone will notice.

They will check your photo

against a database.

There is no point.

When I later revealed

I was a journalist,

he had nothing to say.

Neither did Craigslist.

In fact, when I asked

for an interview, this

is what it told us.

That came from the top,

the chief executive's office.

They are making money and whilst no

one is forcing them to try

and change what is going on,

they are running sites like this

using the ostrich effect,

sticking their heads in the sand.

No wonder criminals can

carry on regardless,

unless they are reselling

to a journalist.

If you turn around

and face the camera.

I would like to know why

you are offering to sell...

I'm trying to get out of debt.

My mother is going to kill me.

He is not the only one thinking

about his relatives.

So why are you doing it?

I am trying to make

money for my family.

At least they are talking.

Take a good look at my cocaine

dealer because he is

not around for long.

I work for the BBC and we are

trying to find out why

you are peddling cocaine.

Why is that?

Well, he wasn't hanging about.

And Stacey, will she want to talk?

I'm trying to find out why

you are willing to launder money

for people, why you are doing that,

Stacey?

You knew it was risky,

would you like to explain?

I've got nothing to say to you.

Just like my passport

thief here in Kent.

I'm not buying a passport off

you because I work for the BBC.

I want to know why you are

selling stolen passports?

Why are you selling

stolen passports?

What's the plan?

Is that your mate who's got it?

There is organised crime

sitting behind everything.

It is critical that the police

or the law enforcement agencies

force the likes of Craigslist

to do something about it.

So what is the government doing?

When we asked to interview

a minister, the Home Office said...

We have kind of done

that for them already.

Told you.

So maybe it's time the government

forced websites like Craigslist

to clean up their act.

Jonathan Gibson reporting. Coming up

on Inside Out. We meet the Muslim

Scouts of killing.

As skirts we are

all worldwide family with big hearts

and it's about including people in

the community from all backgrounds

and faiths and to see so many Muslim

Scouts is wonderful.

This month new

student nurses have started their

causes but one thing is different

this year, bursaries have been

scrapped. So what difference will it

make to the students and to the NHS?

Airway is clear, he is breathing.

Shot coming.

It is the start of the

busy academic year at Canterbury

Christ Church University.

Hello,

what's your name Sir.

His name is

Tom.

But vizier for the first time

many health care students will pay

for their own training. -- this

year. Until August this year many on

health care courses like nursing

could apply for an NHS bursary.

That

was funded by the Department of

Health, by the government, so they

did not take out alone and they

didn't have to pay their tuition but

they were allowed this small bursary

to help them with some of their

living costs.

Doctors and nurses

unite and fight!

CHANTING

But this year it was scrapped.

We've

come out as a body of junior doctors

in support of our nursing colleagues

because we see this as a time that

the NHS health care staff need to

stand together.

If you want to study

a health care professional like

nursing, midwifery or occupational

therapy you are treated like any

other student. You have to go

through the same system of fees and

loans as if you are studying English

or history or French. Recently we

have seen worrying headlines about

staff shortages in our health

service. First time on record we've

seen more nurses leaving the

profession than joining and with the

number of nurses starting training

and down this autumn the Royal

College of Nursing says we should

help and not hinder those who want

to train.

Student nurses spend at

least 50% of their time in practice,

so as part of the education they are

learning the practical skills of

nursing in our hospitals, in our

communities, in our care homes, and

therefore providing a service. That

means they are paying for the

privilege of working in our NHS and

other areas.

The average age of the

student nurse is 29. That means they

are likely to have gained much more

life experience before starting the

course.

That was my dad when he took

me on my first holiday to Disneyland

Paris and he decided it was a good

idea to dress as Minnie mouse the

whole holiday! I've got this one of

me and my dad, I think it was

someone's birthday, I was pinching

his beer, that was a good night. And

this one is the last photo I have of

me and my dad.

Emily lost her father

this year after a long illness.

We

woke up and found my dad on the sofa

and he'd just been released from

hospital on the Friday of this was

the Monday.

While looking after him

she discovered a hidden talent.

It's

all because of looking after my dad,

and everything that we went through

with him, I kind of realised I was

good at what I did, I was good and

caring for people. And I could

relate to what they were going

through. And it kind of made me

realise I wanted to be a nurse.

Emily had hoped to start a nursing

degree in Kent this autumn but says

she doesn't want to be saddled with

huge debts by the end of the course.

I found out they were cutting these

bursaries and it will be hard for me

to train to do the job and if I

needed two add have to pay for it. I

quickly realised I didn't have

anyone who could help me and I

couldn't afford to leave work to

study and pay for it because they

live on my own. I don't live with

family. I can't live with family.

And I've got all my bills and

everything associated with that to

pay for.

We also need more nurses.

Earlier this month at the

Conservative Party conference Health

Secretary Jeremy Hunt stood by the

government 's decision to scrap

training bursaries.

We are backing

the biggest expansion of nurse

training in the history of the NHS.

The thinking behind these plans is

to enable universities to create

extra training places and to provide

students with more financial support

in the form of a loan. We did ask

the Department of Health for an

interview. This is what they said.

But the Royal College of Nursing

says that government hasn't thought

about students who don't want to

take out a loan to cover the cost of

their degree.

We are not attracting

those people who don't want to take

out a student loan. And nursing is a

specific thing. It is a profession

that you need to be committed to.

It's not just about having the right

grade of A-level.

The government has

introduced alternative routes into

the profession such as nursing

apprenticeships. But the RCN says

this is just a cost-cutting

exercise.

While apprenticeships are

under the model and with nothing

against apprenticeships, it's only

shifting the cost to the employers

which is our hospitals and the rest

of the NHS. In fact there is an

argument that the current method of

training as a nurse is already an

apprenticeship model.

Canterbury

Christ Church University is the

biggest public service provider in

the south-east, providing local NHS

trusts -- NHS trusts with most of

their stuff. What do they think of

the changes.

The amount of money

available to students from September

20 17th is 25% extra what the

students on the NHS bursaries scheme

is so we see this as a positive way

to support students in the future.

Although application numbers were

lower this year she says it's

nothing to worry about.

This is

reflecting what happened several

years ago when fees were introduced

for the wider student population and

history tells us that over time, we

will have an increase, and certainly

in our University we are planning to

increase our student numbers over

the next five years. So I'm feeling

very positive about this going

forward.

Training nurses and other

health care professionals in false

time and money. When patient demand

is rising, time and money are both

resources the NHS has little of. So

let's hope the new plans to work and

people like Emily can find a way to

get their dream job.

It's kind of my

driving force for wanting to be a

nurse and going from there, and

hopefully I will make him proud.

They are known for leather while

gulls, for bracing outdoor

activities and for always being

prepared. But one Scout group is

unique in the south-east. Emma

Thomas explains why.

All about new challenges. But these

are not just any scouts, they are

Muslims goats and are making history

as the first and only Scout group in

Kent and Sussex.

I like it because I

get to learn new life skills.

How is

this group different from any other?

The Scouting movement was set up

more than 100 years ago by Robert

Baden Powell. He was the son of an

Anglican priest. At the time,

England was an overwhelmingly

Christian country so he designed the

swearing in ceremony to pledge

allegiance to a Christian God.

Obviously for this group it will be

different.

OK, guys, we are going to

invest Zara today.

Today, Zara is being invested.

That means she is officially joining

the Scouts.

I promise to do my best.

To do my best for Alain and the

country in which I live.

At the start of each meeting,

the children say a prayer

to Allah and raise the flag.

Can you come and do the flag part

please?

I like doing flag thing.

Altogether

now, I promise... A rite of passage

that might not have been possible

without this group and now that Zara

is in she doesn't want to leave.

I

like it, I want to stay.

The leaders

started the group, he is a leader

but it has helped him realise a

childhood dream as well. His parents

wouldn't let him join the Scouts

because they did not understand what

Scouting was.

I formed the group

because the parents were not aware

of Scouting as such.

I wanted the children to benefit

from the things Scouting brings,

so I formed the Muslim Scout group

so we cater for their religious

and cultural needs.

Which a normal Scout group might not

be able to do.

Any child can join this group,

whatever their faith.

All Scout groups welcome everybody.

Today the children are doing a major

bag, standard Scouting activity that

also helps them learn about their

faith.

It tells the children we need

to protect wildlife and care for the

Earth and its resources. We are

taught that we are custodians of

this planet, it is not ours, so

there's the link with Islam but

otherwise the activity is just the

same as any other group would run.

Shahid is a teacher and one of the

proud parents glad to have this

group. He never got the chance to be

in the Scouts and he didn't want his

daughter to miss out.

Why were your parents reluctant for

you to join the Scouts?

Think

primarily they didn't know anything

about it. I think they felt it was

something that perhaps Muslims

didn't do, so they didn't want to

find out. Because they had no real

concept of what it was about. Is

group pretty much mirrors scudding

nationally.

Seven girls here who

outnumber the boys come in the UK

there are more girls joining the

scouts than boys. This mother sends

two of her daughters here, she says

it is important to help them become

strong confident women. What do your

girls get out of coming here?

This group is an opportunity

for the girls to break free of

the stereotypes society

imposes on them.

Of being able to do certain things

or not being able to do certain

Things. To realise they can do all

the things the boys do. This way

they can feel confident and know

that the world is their oyster.

A big day on the scudding calendar,

Scouting groups from countries

around the world are meeting at the

Kent Showground for their big fun

get-together, a jamboree. And I am

about to meet perhaps the most

famous Scout of all. The adventurer

Bear Grylls 's helicopter has just

landed. Hello, nice to meet you.

As scouts, we are a big

worldwide family.

Big arms, big hearts.

It is about including people

in the community from all sorts of

different backgrounds and faiths. We

do that well and we are proud of

that. And to see so many Muslims

groups growing is wonderful.

People from all backgrounds,

nationalities and faiths.

Where are

you from?

From Barry.

I nobody quite

well.

While they hear the scouts

take part the tradition. They tied

the friendship not, they take the

negative and they put it on the

other person and then they can take

it away with them and that is the

French and not we are going to do

today. So just not the scarves, one

at a time -- it's the friendship

knot.

How old are you?

Ten, nearly

11.

Soon it's time for the ceremony,

the Welsh scouts are ready to hand

over their official scarf. Back at

the ceremony, Zara is about to

become a fully fledged Scout. To

help other people...

To help other

people and to keep the cub scout

law.

Now you are an official member

of this group. She's looking forward

to many more exciting adventures

ahead.

That's it from us tonight from the

Medway towns. Thank you for

watching. See you next week.