Trebor Edwards a'i wyrion Perthyn o gyfres Dal Ati

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-Hello and welcome to Perthyn.

-Today, I'm in Betws Gwerful Goch

-near Corwen...

-..meeting singer and farmer

-Trebor Edwards and his grandsons.

-# I'm only human

-# I'm just a man

-# Help me believe in what I could be

-# And all that I am #

-I'm Trebor Edwards

-and I live in Bryn Alaw...

-..near Pen Y Bryniau,

-Betws Gwerful Goch.

-I've lived in Pen Y Bryniau

-since 1956.

-That makes me an old man,

-doesn't it?

-I left school when I was 16...

-..and went straight into farming

-on my own at Pen Y Bryniau.

-Singing has been

-a very important part of my life.

-Having said that,

-farming always comes first...

-..but singing

-is a big part of my life.

-# Lord, for my sake

-# Teach me to take

-# One day at a time #

-Trebor, what a glorious day.

-Yes, it's amazing.

-But it's always like this here!

-You're famous for your singing.

-You're one of the most successful

-tenors Wales has ever produced.

-How did your music career begin?

-I started singing

-when I was a child.

-My grandfather

-lived at Pen Y Bryniau.

-His name was Clement Jones.

-My grandfather loved to sing.

-I think I started singing

-because of my grandfather.

-I'd compete

-at small local eisteddfodau...

-..and I'd sing at the chapel

-and at Sunday School.

-That's where it all began.

-Somehow...

-..things seemed to snowball

-from there.

-Then there came a competition

-called Dyma Gyfle.

-It was a national competition.

-People from across Wales...

-..had an opportunity

-to take part in Dyma Gyfle.

-It was a televised talent contest.

-I then had a chance

-to record an album.

-Dafydd Iwan started it all off.

-He told me

-that I had to record an album.

-From that point onwards,

-things just seemed to grow and grow.

-I took a lot of time off work

-to go and sing.

-I enjoyed it immensely.

-I really did.

-You entertained passengers

-on cruise ships, didn't you?

-Yes, and that really was

-an unexpected opportunity.

-I was singing in South Wales...

-..when a man came up to me...

-..and asked me if I'd be interested

-in singing on a cruise.

-That's how it started.

-I'm not sure how many cruises

-I've sung on, but it's around 24.

-You're still at it.

-Yes. We were

-in the Mediterranean last year.

-There's also talk

-of another cruise next year.

-Despite all your success

-in the singing world...

-..you're a farmer,

-first and foremost.

-Yes, without a shadow of a doubt.

-I'm a farmer,

-and farming comes first.

-Yes.

-I started farming here on my own

-when I was 16 years old.

-I've enjoyed it.

-Of course,

-some things haven't gone to plan...

-..but that happens to us all,

-no matter what business you're in.

-Farming definitely comes first.

-Yes, but farming and singing have

-gone hand in hand over the years.

-Yes, and I've been very lucky.

-I remember being invited

-to Hong Kong one St David's Day...

-..but the lambing season

-was about to start.

-I didn't know how I'd do it.

-My sons told me not to worry

-because they'd sort them out.

-I went to Hong Kong

-and I really enjoyed it.

-I enjoy farming.

-It's part of me...

-..and I don't know much

-about anything else!

-It's very important to me.

-I enjoy producing

-and showing great cattle.

-My grandchildren show them

-and they're part of our lives.

-This is a beautiful location

-with broad horizons.

-Can you tell me

-what we can see around us here?

-It's wonderful, isn't it?

-There's a hill in front of us.

-Behind that hill

-lies the district of Uwch Aled...

-..and the town of Cerrigydrudion.

-If you head in this direction,

-you'll end up in the Vale of Clwyd.

-The Ruthin area is over there.

-That's the road from Cerrigydrudion

-to Ruthin, below those trees.

-You can keep an eye on the world and

-his wife from an elevated position.

-Yes. We're very lucky.

-What do you farm on this land?

-We have suckler cows.

-We keep around 130 suckler cows...

-..and just over 1,000 sheep.

-Is it true to say that farming

-Pen Y Bryniau is a dream come true?

-Yes. It's what I wanted to do.

-I was lucky.

-My grandfather was selling the farm.

-The farm went under the hammer

-in 1954, I think.

-Back then, this farm cost 5,000.

-Imagine how little you'd get

-for 5,000 today!

-I asked my mother to tell Taid

-that I'd like to buy it.

-My grandfather

-then offered the place to me...

-..and he said

-he'd put 2,000 towards it.

-He gave you a discount!

-Yes, and that's how it started.

-Things worked out really well.

-You've passed down

-your love of farming to your sons...

-..and to your grandsons.

-They're keen farmers too.

-Yes, the boys are amazing.

-Erfyl is here, at Pen Y Bryniau.

-Gwyn and Lun, his wife,

-are at Pencraig Fawr.

-They have two sons, Dion and Cai.

-They're both at home, trying hard

-to get work here and there.

-Are any of them singers,

-like their grandfather?

-Well...

-If they are, they hide it well!

-Cai, one of my grandsons,

-really likes playing rugby.

-These lads have a drink or two

-after rugby matches.

-I'm told that Cai's a good singer,

-once he's had a drink!

-I've tried to get him to sing

-but I can't.

-We can all sing after a few drinks!

-I have ten grandchildren...

-..and four great-grandchildren.

-We've been really lucky.

-One grandson is at Pen Y Bryniau

-and two are at Pencraig.

-They love to farm.

-Farming is their lives.

-Dion, it's noisy here today.

-What's happening?

-Clipping the sheep and getting lambs

-ready to go to pasture.

-Have you always

-wanted to be a farmer?

-Yes. I never considered

-doing anything else.

-Was there pressure to do it

-because farming's in the family?

-No, there was no pressure.

-It's what I've wanted to do...

-..ever since I was a little boy

-helping Dad on the farm.

-I never considered

-doing anything else.

-What memories can you share with us

-of growing up here?

-I remember being dragged around

-by the lambs in the shed...

-..when I thought I was a big man!

-So you were very young.

-Yes, I've been going out with Dad on

-the tractor ever since I could walk.

-I'm sure I was more of a hindrance

-than a help, but I tried!

-Have you learnt at a college

-or just by working on the farm?

-I've learnt a lot at home,

-but I spent two years at Llysfasi.

-I've also done work experience

-on a farm.

-It was good to see

-how other people worked.

-What aspects of the work

-do you enjoy most?

-Working with the stock.

-I prefer sheep and cattle

-to sitting on a tractor.

-I'm not too keen

-on the paperwork either!

-But that has to be done.

-But that has to be done.

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-Yes.

-And lots of it.

-Yes, that's more important

-than almost anything else now.

-The shearing season is approaching,

-and it's a busy period for you.

-Yes. We'll start

-in two or three weeks.

-We cover the Flintshire

-and Cheshire areas...

-..and other places

-with good pasture.

-How many will you shear in a day?

-How many will you shear in a day?

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-Anything from 200 to 300 each.

-It's sweaty work.

-Yes, it's hard work,

-but it's one way to earn some cash.

-Have you been away shearing?

-Have you been away shearing?

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-Yes, in New Zealand.

-I was there for three months.

-Is farming very different

-in New Zealand?

-Yes.

-Everything's on a huge scale.

-You're talking about

-thousands of acres.

-Did you enjoy the experience?

-Did you enjoy the experience?

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-Yes, and I'd love to go back there.

-Do you use skills on this farm

-that you learnt from your grandad?

-Yes. We learn from him all the time.

-It's not a case

-of learning one skill.

-We learn all the time from him.

-I've watched him handle sheep

-and I learn from being with him.

-Your grandparents' house is

-on the hill, looking down at you.

-We can't do anything

-without him seeing it!

-Does he watch everything you do?

-Does he watch everything you do?

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-Yes, pretty much everything.

-That's not a bad thing.

-Join me after the break, when I'll

-have more from Betws Gwerful Goch.

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-Welcome back to the hills

-of Betws Gwerful Goch...

-..where I'm meeting Trebor Edwards

-and a few of his grandsons.

-Next, we return to Pencraig Fawr

-to meet Cai.

-One of his favourite hobbies

-is showing animals at shows.

-Cai has a talent for showing...

-..and he's been successful.

-He won a competition

-at the Royal Welsh Show last year.

-He's had a great career.

-Cai, hello.

-Are you busy?

-Yes, I'm getting this bullock ready

-for the shows.

-Is there much preparation to be done

-ahead of a show?

-Yes, there's a lot of preparation

-to be done.

-They must get used to being led

-around the ring and used to people.

-What does a judge look for

-in a bullock like this one?

-Naturally, every judge

-has his or her own preferences.

-Most judges want to see

-plenty of meat on the animal.

-At the end of the day, this bullock

-will go to the beef market.

-That's why they look for the meat.

-What sparked your interest

-in showing animals, Cai?

-I'm not sure.

-I went to shows with Dad

-when I was growing up.

-It just came naturally to me

-to start showing animals myself.

-Being with cattle

-all day, every day...

-..made me want to show other people

-what I've got here.

-Do you look at all the bullocks

-you have on the farm...

-..and pick out the one

-you're taking to show?

-The one with the greatest potential?

-The one with the greatest potential?

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-Yes, we pick them out as calves.

-We spend hours looking at them,

-studying their pros and cons...

-..so we can select

-the right animals.

-We then try to breed them

-to create more similar calves.

-Do you sometimes get to a show,

-see the competition...

-..and think to yourself,

-"We'll never beat this one."

-Yes, at almost every show!

-Everything looks better

-when you're at home.

-Once you reach the show

-and see the best of the best...

-..you know

-you have real competition.

-There's only a year

-between you and Dion, your brother.

-Do you two argue sometimes?

-No, we never argue.

-We may disagree sometimes,

-but we get on really well.

-Are you similar?

-Yes, some people would say

-we're similar in some ways...

-..but we're also different

-in many ways.

-He loves shearing and he spends

-most of his time with the sheep...

-..but I prefer

-to be with the cattle.

-Do you ask

-for your grandfather's advice...

-..if you have trouble with a lamb

-or with a bullock?

-Yes, I pick up the phone

-from time to time...

-..to ask him to share

-some tricks of the trade.

-He's shared so much knowledge

-with us over the years.

-I don't know

-where I'd be without him.

-Rhydian has his own hens...

-..and he sells their eggs.

-It's a very important part

-of his life.

-He's also bought two calves.

-We all live close to each other...

-..so we help each other

-as much as we can.

-It's a real pleasure.

-Rhydian, what are you making me do?

-We're mucking out...

-..ready for the calves

-to come back in.

-Do we have to clear all this lot?

-I don't know.

-Let's do this half anyway.

-Rhydian,

-you're the youngest grandson.

-Are you the quietest one too?

-No, I don't think so.

-Well, maybe.

-Would your grandfather agree?

-Would your grandfather agree?

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-No, I don't think so.

-But I'm sure

-you're the most hard-working.

-I don't think so.

-Do you enjoy farming?

-Do you enjoy farming?

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-Yes. I always have.

-You study farming too.

-Yes, I go to Llysfasi twice a week.

-It's a break from schoolwork.

-Do you want to be a farmer?

-Yes, when I leave school,

-I'll go to college...

-..then I'll hopefully farm at home.

-The dream is to run your own farm.

-You already have your own hens,

-and two calves.

-Tell me more.

-I've been keeping hens

-since I was eight years old.

-I got seven as a birthday present

-and it's grown from there.

-I've now got 39 hens...

-..and I sell their eggs

-to a lot of people.

-How many eggs do they lay every day?

-How many eggs do they lay every day?

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-Around 36 eggs.

-You then sell them

-by the half dozen?

-Yes, and I charge

-1 per half a dozen.

-I have quite a few customers.

-That's great pocket money for you.

-That's great pocket money for you.

-

-Yes, it's great.

-You reinvested that money

-in two calves, didn't you?

-Yes. I bought the calves

-from my uncle and aunt.

-I've been bucket-rearing them.

-I gave them milk

-before I went to school...

-..for the first month.

-I've now been able to stop

-giving them milk.

-They're on water now.

-The idea is to sell them

-in a year's time.

-Their value will have risen by then.

-Yes, unless

-there are hassles with them...

-..or if I have to call the vet.

-Is there a good profit in them?

-Is there a good profit in them?

-

-I hope there will be.

-I won't say too much!

-Will you reinvest it

-and buy more stock?

-Maybe, if I make a good profit.

-The hens are my main priority.

-This is just a trial run.

-Do you enjoy it?

-Do you enjoy it?

-

-Yes.

-Does Taid sometimes say,

-"No, Rhydian! Not like that!"?

-He tries, but I keep telling him

-times have changed!

-Good answer!

-Let's get on with it.

-We were very lucky to have

-been able to build this house here.

-It's in a really convenient spot.

-We see Pen Y Bryniau

-through one window.

-We can also see Pencraig Bach,

-where Catherine and Geraint live...

-..and Pencraig Fawr, where

-Gwyn, Lun and the children live.

-It feels wonderful

-to be so close to them.

-How often

-do you see your grandparents?

-We come to Pen Y Bryniau most days.

-We see Taid every day,

-and Nain most days of the week.

-Do you call in

-for some tasty cakes?

-You all live

-a stone's throw from each other.

-Is it good to know

-there's always someone there...

-..to give you a helping hand, Dion?

-Yes, if I need help

-to hook something to the tractor...

-..or to gather sheep,

-it's easy to go and fetch help.

-If I pick up the phone,

-help will be there in five minutes.

-Rhydian, do you learn a lot

-from Cai and Dion?

-Yes. Cai teaches me about showing

-cattle and Dion teaches me to shear.

-It's helpful

-to have someone to look up to.

-You're only 14,

-but you already show cattle.

-Yes, I enter

-Young Handlers competitions.

-I really enjoy it, fair play.

-Trebor, do you see your younger self

-in these boys?

-Well, I wouldn't say that

-because they're naughty boys!

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-No, I'm extremely proud of them.

-They take part in shows

-and in YFC competitions.

-I'm proud of the fact they're

-so involved with such organizations.

-It's important,

-when you look to the future.

-Do you hear Taid

-singing in the field sometimes?

-He's always singing on the farmyard.

-You sing all the time, don't you?

-Trebor and the boys,

-I can't thank you enough.

-I've had a great time

-and you have a lovely place here.

-Thank you for welcoming me.

-Thank you for welcoming me.

-

-Thank you.

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