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Good afternoon and welcome to Points of View | 0:00:10 | 0:00:13 | |
and an unusual postbag pairing | 0:00:13 | 0:00:16 | |
of ballroom dancing and political satire. | 0:00:16 | 0:00:19 | |
No, John Sergeant hasn't reared his two left feet again on Strictly, | 0:00:19 | 0:00:23 | |
but the glitter fest has partnered The Thick of It in apparently | 0:00:23 | 0:00:27 | |
breaking taboos of taste and decency for many viewers. | 0:00:27 | 0:00:31 | |
I need to know that you're really on top of things, Malcolm. | 0:00:31 | 0:00:35 | |
-I do my (BLEEP) job. -Do you do your (BLEEP) job | 0:00:35 | 0:00:37 | |
out of a sense of obligation or are you doing it | 0:00:37 | 0:00:39 | |
because you actually believe in me? | 0:00:39 | 0:00:41 | |
Let me (BLEEP) that one back at you. Do YOU believe in you? | 0:00:41 | 0:00:44 | |
Cos I can't see any (BLEEP) fire in your eyes. | 0:00:44 | 0:00:47 | |
I can't even see the clicking of the pilot light | 0:00:47 | 0:00:50 | |
to try and get a tiny little flame going. | 0:00:50 | 0:00:52 | |
What I do see is that you might any day decide, | 0:00:52 | 0:00:55 | |
"Oh, I've (BLEEP) had enough," and go off and get a blanket from the car. | 0:00:55 | 0:00:58 | |
And it wasn't just that programme. | 0:01:22 | 0:01:24 | |
Viewers also contacted the BBC Audience Log | 0:01:24 | 0:01:27 | |
to complain that skimpy outfits | 0:01:27 | 0:01:29 | |
and suggestive dance moves on Strictly Come Dancing | 0:01:29 | 0:01:32 | |
jar with their ideal of family viewing. | 0:01:32 | 0:01:36 | |
Now, snapping at the heels of those appalled by bad language | 0:01:36 | 0:01:39 | |
and dirty dancing are those straining at the leash | 0:01:39 | 0:01:42 | |
to complain about One Man And His Dog Live. | 0:01:42 | 0:01:45 | |
The sheepdog trials aired as expected last Saturday evening, | 0:01:45 | 0:01:48 | |
but the billed results show on Sunday was initially delayed | 0:01:48 | 0:01:53 | |
and then cancelled altogether | 0:01:53 | 0:01:55 | |
when the Women's Open golf coverage overran. | 0:01:55 | 0:01:58 | |
I think it's only right and proper that after everything | 0:01:58 | 0:02:01 | |
that these players have been through over the last three days, | 0:02:01 | 0:02:04 | |
we have to see this championship through. | 0:02:04 | 0:02:06 | |
'One Man And His Dog' will now be shown next Saturday.' | 0:02:06 | 0:02:09 | |
No notice and no apology is the accusation, then. | 0:02:37 | 0:02:40 | |
What did the schedulers have to say for themselves? | 0:02:40 | 0:02:43 | |
Aha! So only Saturday was live. | 0:03:08 | 0:03:10 | |
No-one was waiting out in a field on Sunday, | 0:03:10 | 0:03:14 | |
but plenty were clearly waiting disappointed on their sofas. | 0:03:14 | 0:03:18 | |
Now, what constitutes news? | 0:03:18 | 0:03:20 | |
A philosophical debate that journalists wrestle with | 0:03:20 | 0:03:24 | |
and message boarders rowed about | 0:03:24 | 0:03:26 | |
when Kate Middleton's swimwear choices or non-swimwear choices | 0:03:26 | 0:03:30 | |
appeared to eclipse deaths in Afghanistan last week. | 0:03:30 | 0:03:33 | |
But it's actually another example that had many viewers fuming. | 0:03:33 | 0:03:37 | |
Fiona Bruce, currently presenting | 0:03:37 | 0:03:39 | |
Antiques Roadshow's sister programme, Fake Or Fortune, | 0:03:39 | 0:03:43 | |
also anchors the Six O'Clock News, | 0:03:43 | 0:03:45 | |
and the bulletin on the Friday before the first episode | 0:03:45 | 0:03:49 | |
of Fake Or Fortune included a full-length feature on... | 0:03:49 | 0:03:52 | |
Fake Or Fortune. | 0:03:52 | 0:03:54 | |
'A painting rediscovered, | 0:03:54 | 0:03:56 | |
'recognised as from the brush of one of the finest Impressionist masters.' | 0:03:56 | 0:04:01 | |
And you can see more on that story on Fake Or Fortune on BBC One, | 0:04:01 | 0:04:05 | |
this Sunday evening at 6.30. | 0:04:05 | 0:04:07 | |
Valid news uncovered by a journalist | 0:04:19 | 0:04:21 | |
exploiting her access to an interesting story | 0:04:21 | 0:04:24 | |
or a programme plug? | 0:04:24 | 0:04:26 | |
It's pretty clear which Bob and Kate saw it as. | 0:04:26 | 0:04:29 | |
Now, BBC2 is tackling the Vikings. | 0:04:29 | 0:04:32 | |
Clearly, they are 1,300 years too late | 0:04:32 | 0:04:34 | |
to stop their invasion of our shores, | 0:04:34 | 0:04:37 | |
but with the elaborately-coiffed archaeologist Neil Oliver at the helm, | 0:04:37 | 0:04:41 | |
they have set sail on an ambitious voyage of documentary discovery. | 0:04:41 | 0:04:47 | |
And this splendid individual is the son. | 0:04:47 | 0:04:52 | |
The fact that his hair has been preserved, | 0:04:55 | 0:04:59 | |
this flamboyant hairstyle just adds to his allure. | 0:04:59 | 0:05:04 | |
Neil seems to be an acquired taste, then. | 0:05:21 | 0:05:23 | |
But fast forward now to modern history, | 0:05:23 | 0:05:26 | |
and Wartime Farm is the latest in the Living Experience series, | 0:05:26 | 0:05:31 | |
this time exploring the agricultural industry between 1939 and '45. | 0:05:31 | 0:05:36 | |
Now, the historians fronting this programme have been praised, | 0:05:36 | 0:05:40 | |
although there are claims of holes in the historical research. | 0:05:40 | 0:05:44 | |
So here we have a programme that is well presented, | 0:06:16 | 0:06:19 | |
but with some dubious prop choices. | 0:06:19 | 0:06:21 | |
Viewers absolutely love content, they can't get enough of it. | 0:06:21 | 0:06:24 | |
You can get as detailed as you like. | 0:06:24 | 0:06:27 | |
Of course, these viewers, some of them have very sharp eyes | 0:06:27 | 0:06:30 | |
and spot things that they think are mistakes, | 0:06:30 | 0:06:33 | |
and in some ways I love them for that, | 0:06:33 | 0:06:35 | |
because it means they're really watching closely. | 0:06:35 | 0:06:38 | |
In terms of what we're doing on the show, we're not... | 0:06:38 | 0:06:40 | |
we have to go with what's safe to use, what's available. | 0:06:40 | 0:06:45 | |
Sometimes things are too fragile, | 0:06:45 | 0:06:46 | |
the really authentic tractor for instance, is too fragile. | 0:06:46 | 0:06:50 | |
And so with incredible advice from all kinds of historians | 0:06:50 | 0:06:54 | |
and societies, we then choose the next best thing. | 0:06:54 | 0:06:58 | |
So in the end, if people are watching that closely, I love them for it. | 0:06:58 | 0:07:01 | |
A glimpse of the tribulations faced by wartime farmers. | 0:07:01 | 0:07:05 | |
Programme makers are quite keen on glimpses. | 0:07:05 | 0:07:08 | |
They're known in the trade as "teases," | 0:07:08 | 0:07:10 | |
a little taster of what a decorated room will eventually look like, | 0:07:10 | 0:07:13 | |
or a snatch from a forthcoming row on a fly-on-the-wall documentary. | 0:07:13 | 0:07:17 | |
They're all meant to keep viewers glued to their seats. | 0:07:17 | 0:07:21 | |
Feeling the adhesive, Lynn? | 0:07:21 | 0:07:22 | |
I wrote to Points Of View | 0:07:25 | 0:07:27 | |
because I'm fed up with the programme makers, | 0:07:27 | 0:07:30 | |
where they show the end result at the beginning of the programme. | 0:07:30 | 0:07:34 | |
Although I do enjoy the journey, the element of surprise is lost | 0:07:39 | 0:07:43 | |
when they show it at the beginning. | 0:07:43 | 0:07:45 | |
I assume from their perspective, they think it may keep people watching, | 0:07:48 | 0:07:52 | |
but it spoils it for me. | 0:07:52 | 0:07:54 | |
I just think, "I've seen it now, I don't need to watch it." | 0:07:54 | 0:07:57 | |
I think one way to resolve the situation would be to say, | 0:08:00 | 0:08:04 | |
at the beginning of the programme, | 0:08:04 | 0:08:05 | |
"If you don't want to see the end results, please look away now," | 0:08:05 | 0:08:09 | |
like they do with the football. | 0:08:09 | 0:08:10 | |
'And there's a surprise in store for one heir | 0:08:10 | 0:08:13 | |
'who believed her family were poor.' | 0:08:13 | 0:08:16 | |
This was a complete surprise to me. My family had no money at all. | 0:08:16 | 0:08:21 | |
At the moment, it's my husband | 0:08:21 | 0:08:23 | |
putting his hands over my face saying, "Look away now." | 0:08:23 | 0:08:26 | |
I guess the only problem with that is that programme makers | 0:08:26 | 0:08:28 | |
never want to tell you to look away from the programme they have made. | 0:08:28 | 0:08:32 | |
Now, the recent publication of the findings | 0:08:32 | 0:08:34 | |
of the Hillsborough investigation led to extensive news coverage, | 0:08:34 | 0:08:38 | |
but the night before the report was published, | 0:08:38 | 0:08:41 | |
a documentary that transmitted only in the north-west | 0:08:41 | 0:08:44 | |
was praised for its journalism. | 0:08:44 | 0:08:46 | |
A call from the message board | 0:09:00 | 0:09:01 | |
for that to have been shown nationwide, | 0:09:01 | 0:09:03 | |
an idea echoed by Charles Stuart, | 0:09:03 | 0:09:05 | |
who thinks he's got the perfect plan for where and when to broadcast it. | 0:09:05 | 0:09:10 | |
I have an idea of what to do with BBC One HD on Freeview | 0:09:10 | 0:09:16 | |
and presumably satellite as well | 0:09:16 | 0:09:20 | |
when there's local news on BBC One High Definition. | 0:09:20 | 0:09:26 | |
I would like to see a compilation programme of the best stories | 0:09:26 | 0:09:32 | |
and most interesting stories from around the country. | 0:09:32 | 0:09:36 | |
Well, Charles, we've been told that regionally-made programmes | 0:09:36 | 0:09:39 | |
are not yet shot in HD, so couldn't be shown on the HD channel, | 0:09:39 | 0:09:44 | |
but perhaps when the technology catches up, you never know. | 0:09:44 | 0:09:47 | |
Now, I'm sorry to have to inform addicted pop quizzers | 0:09:47 | 0:09:50 | |
that withdrawal symptoms will kick in tonight, | 0:09:50 | 0:09:53 | |
cos this will be the first Sunday evening for quite some time | 0:09:53 | 0:09:56 | |
that Top Ten aficionados will not be getting their fix | 0:09:56 | 0:10:00 | |
of the '60s drama Inspector George Gently, | 0:10:00 | 0:10:02 | |
and gleefully pointing out to us all its musical errors. | 0:10:02 | 0:10:07 | |
The four-part series began with an episode called | 0:10:07 | 0:10:10 | |
Gently Northern Soul, which was itself a misnomer, as the series | 0:10:10 | 0:10:15 | |
is set in 1968 | 0:10:15 | 0:10:17 | |
and the phrase "Northern Soul" wasn't coined until the 1970s. | 0:10:17 | 0:10:21 | |
Incidental music bloopers include using Marvin Gaye's Let's Get It On, | 0:10:22 | 0:10:27 | |
which was not released until 1973. | 0:10:27 | 0:10:29 | |
And Lean On Me, which Bill Withers did not record until 1972. | 0:10:33 | 0:10:37 | |
# Lean on me | 0:10:37 | 0:10:40 | |
# When you're not strong... # | 0:10:40 | 0:10:43 | |
Jethro Tull's Living In The Past was only a year out, released in '69, | 0:10:43 | 0:10:48 | |
but as every pop quizzer knows, you don't get points for being close. | 0:10:48 | 0:10:51 | |
Well, thanks to Richard and Mick and Andy and Michael | 0:10:51 | 0:10:54 | |
for pointing them out. | 0:10:54 | 0:10:56 | |
How will pop pickers of a more mature vintage | 0:10:56 | 0:10:59 | |
fill their time now, I wonder? | 0:10:59 | 0:11:01 | |
Possibly by watching a satirical sketch show on BBC Three | 0:11:01 | 0:11:05 | |
aimed at a teens-and-20s market, and I'm not being facetious. | 0:11:05 | 0:11:09 | |
It would appear that the anarchic youth humour | 0:11:09 | 0:11:12 | |
of The Revolution Will Be Televised, | 0:11:12 | 0:11:14 | |
which was praised on last week's programme, | 0:11:14 | 0:11:17 | |
has attracted what the bean counters call | 0:11:17 | 0:11:19 | |
an unexpectedly wide demographic. | 0:11:19 | 0:11:22 | |
The trailer of the programme looked quite quirky when I watched it, | 0:11:22 | 0:11:26 | |
so I thought, "Well, I'll have a go at the full programme." | 0:11:26 | 0:11:29 | |
'I'm Dale Maily, | 0:11:31 | 0:11:34 | |
'fearless hetero journalist who's not afraid to be unafraid.' | 0:11:34 | 0:11:37 | |
And having now watched it two or three times, it does remind me | 0:11:37 | 0:11:42 | |
of the political satirical programmes that we used to watch in the 1960s. | 0:11:42 | 0:11:47 | |
That Was The Week That Was. | 0:11:47 | 0:11:48 | |
# That was the week that was... # | 0:11:48 | 0:11:51 | |
Another news item this week, of course, | 0:11:51 | 0:11:53 | |
came from the sadly beleaguered Vietnam. | 0:11:53 | 0:11:56 | |
# On Monday, not much can be said to have occurred... # | 0:11:56 | 0:11:59 | |
American Intelligence are in a pretty plight, | 0:11:59 | 0:12:02 | |
because, of course, all their contacts | 0:12:02 | 0:12:04 | |
have been destroyed in the last day or so... | 0:12:04 | 0:12:06 | |
# On Wednesday, the silence continued complete... # | 0:12:06 | 0:12:09 | |
..with the result that the capital of that country | 0:12:09 | 0:12:12 | |
will now be referred to as CIA-gon. | 0:12:12 | 0:12:14 | |
They are doorstepping our politicians and rightly so. | 0:12:14 | 0:12:18 | |
George, a GCSE Maths textbook... | 0:12:18 | 0:12:21 | |
Because nobody has given them answers. | 0:12:21 | 0:12:24 | |
They are getting quite near the knuckle, | 0:12:24 | 0:12:26 | |
I'm sure somebody might get hit at some stage | 0:12:26 | 0:12:29 | |
because they are pushing their luck, I think. | 0:12:29 | 0:12:31 | |
I think they're very brave. | 0:12:41 | 0:12:43 | |
There's part of me that is cringing actually, | 0:12:43 | 0:12:46 | |
because I am worried for them that they will go too far. | 0:12:46 | 0:12:50 | |
They have got some nerve, haven't they? | 0:12:56 | 0:12:59 | |
It's for an N Clegg. If you can just let him know that they're here. | 0:12:59 | 0:13:02 | |
Just returning the undelivered promises. | 0:13:02 | 0:13:05 | |
I'd like to congratulate the whole team, the researchers, | 0:13:05 | 0:13:08 | |
the two guys that are actually going accosting people in the streets | 0:13:08 | 0:13:11 | |
and knocking on the doors and, erm... to carry on the good work. | 0:13:11 | 0:13:16 | |
Don't forget, next week we have an interview special | 0:13:16 | 0:13:19 | |
with the chairman of the BBC Trust, Lord Patten. | 0:13:19 | 0:13:22 | |
He is in the hot seat, ready for your questions, | 0:13:22 | 0:13:24 | |
so make sure you get them into us. Here's the old fashioned address. | 0:13:24 | 0:13:27 | |
You're also more than welcome to email. The address there... | 0:13:31 | 0:13:35 | |
Jump onto the message board, always lively... | 0:13:37 | 0:13:40 | |
..or phone us. The number is charged | 0:13:42 | 0:13:44 | |
as a local rate call from any landline. | 0:13:44 | 0:13:47 | |
Here it is. | 0:13:47 | 0:13:48 | |
Goodbye. | 0:13:51 | 0:13:53 | |
Subtitles by Red Bee Media Ltd | 0:13:54 | 0:13:56 |