Episode 16 Points of View

Hello and welcome to Points of View,

where YOU review what you've been watching on TV over the past week

and we've a full menu of your comments to serve up,

so here's what's for starters.

The winner of the 2013

Great British Bake Off is...

Frances!

An audience of nearly 8.5 million tuned in on Tuesday night

to see Frances Quinn crowned the winner of the fourth series

of the Great British Bake Off.

Here you are.

The Great British Bake Off, how are you feeling?

I hoped... I dreamt it,

but I don't think I ever truly, truly believed it.

Oh, darling! Congratulations!

So, the wait is over for Bake Off fans

who have enjoyed every mouthwatering moment of this series.

Now who would have thought a cake-baking competition

could be such a big hit?

But it's just that, Bake Off has had higher ratings

than any other programme on BBC Two in the past ten years.

Little wonder that it's been poached by BBC One for the next series.

And that's enough cooking references now.

We asked the team at the BBC Bake Off HQ for assurances

that things won't change too dramatically

with the move to BBC One. Here's what they told us.

Blatant advertising? Or filming in the real world?

Now, the BBC has some pretty strong guidelines on this.

There are people in this building whose job it is

to make sure they're followed. The show's producers have told us

they did adhere to the so-called editorial guidelines at all times,

but at what point do products and logos and brands become a problem?

Who better to answer that than the Director of Editorial Policy,

David Jordan?

Well, we live in a world which is full of logos,

full of brands, full of brand names and they're constantly around us,

so we have to accept that it's not possible

to eradicate all of those things from our lives and nor do we want to.

On the other hand, we don't want to be put in a position

where excessive commercialisation on-screen

threatens the BBC's independence and editorial integrity.

So, it's about striking a balance and obviously that balance

is more difficult to strike when you're focusing on the work

of a company or a business or even of a charity,

when logos abound in the workplace

and in the other business places in which you're filming in.

From one form of promotion to another, now

and the way the BBC advertises upcoming programmes,

with trails as they're called.

Lots of people feeling overwhelmed by them. Have a look at this.

Unlike commercial advertisers,

we don't do big billboard campaigns

or expensive campaigns, using other people's airwaves.

We restrict ourselves to our own airtime within programmes.

The amount of advertising we do, for example, on BBC One

of our own content is almost exactly the same as ITV do

for their own content, however what we obviously don't do

is we don't have commercial breaks between the programmes

or around the programmes.

This is all connected with the way that we target the trails,

so if we take a programme like, say, for example,

Russell Howard's Good News on BBC Three.

Fifteen stone man mugged by a fox!

Give me your wallet or I'll run you through!

We normally target that at 15 to 25 year olds.

And what we try to achieve is that 65 per cent of that audience

should see that trail once and 40 per cent should see it three times.

However, if you watch a lot of BBC,

that might mean that you see that trail more often.

On average, there's about 1.5 minutes of trails allowed

per hour across all our airwaves, that's television and radio.

That will normally mean two or three trails in the break.

..Continues Thursday at nine on BBC One and catch up on BBC iPlayer.

Actually, the amount of time we give to trails has been stable

for the last three years, so it's the same now in 2013

as it was in 2010.

The Escape Artist, starts Tuesday at nine on BBC One.

While I know that your mute button is clearly getting a lot of use,

there are people who actually really like our trails.

Last week, we launched our trail for the 50th anniversary episode

of Doctor Who. It was launched on Saturday night,

by the Tuesday morning, 2.5 million people

had sought out and downloaded that trail on YouTube.

So, some people do really love our trails.

The day of the Doctor.

Now, one programme which seems to require no promotion

is The Paradise which returned on Sunday.

I could see you today across the store and...

I was thinking... This is how it should be.

The Paradise, bursting with customers.

And at the same time, thinking...

Longing for them all to go!

So we could have the place to ourselves.

The intoxicating love story set in England's first department store,

proving to be a winner all over again.

Yes, sometimes things ARE better the second time around,

which leads us on nicely to the whole issue of repeats.

Now remember, last series the head of daytime, Damian Kavanagh,

made this admission.

For us to be able to continue to do the distinctive programming

that we aspire to do on BBC One, we have to play some repeats.

If we didn't play any repeats, we wouldn't be able to afford

to do any original drama in the afternoons.

We couldn't afford to continue doing the campaigning shows that we do.

But, it would seem there are changes afoot on BBC daytime.

The eagle-eyed among you noticing an increasing number of programmes

from further back in the archives.

Now, they're still repeats, but do we call them classics?

So, we have to have repeats in daytime,

but faced with the choice, modern-day series or golden oldies?

# It's a repeat... #

Which do you prefer?

I prefer classic programmes, which offers a bit more than

the modern programmes to a younger generation anyway.

That's classic criminals, there's a chapter in there. Let me see it.

The old classics more than the regular programmes,

even though you have already seen them.

One of my favourite programmes is on there, Keeping Up Appearances.

Oh, yes, he always had good taste.

Something that makes you happy, makes you laugh.

I'd rather have classics than stuff that was repeated ten months ago.

Which, under normal certain circumstances would be bad news...

There's only a certain amount of times you can see old classics

and one day these will be classics as well.

Especially being a young person,

I'm at that age where you're looking to buy a property and you learn.

You've seen this before, so how are you feeling about it at the moment?

I have watched far too much Bargain Hunt on study leave

and on my days off at uni, so...

it would be nice to have a bit of a change, you know.

I'm free. I'm free. I'm free.

Some people like the old, some the new, keep everyone happy.

Bring the classics back, I've always found them well worth watching.

Give us more old classics.

She will repeat nothing.

Listen very carefully, I shall say this only once.

It seems the weight of opinion is firmly behind the classics.

But what programmes would they really like to see repeated? Freeze!

Only Fools And Horses, I would like that put back on television.

Only Fools And Horses, you'd laugh every day. The Two Ronnies.

Old tennis matches, John McEnroe.

The two brothers, Cain and Abel, or was that a film?

Morecambe and Wise. Even Butterflies.

Fools And Horses, that's repeated already, isn't it?

Now, brace yourself, Rodney.

Brace yourself.

LAUGHTER

Well, this has really caught the imagination.

Thanks to all who have been suggesting series

that you'd like to see repeated.

Hey, we've got some insider information, too.

There are plans for more afternoon classics coming up in 2014.

We can confirm The Pallisers.

And Bergerac.

Back to our youth, eh?

Hello, good evening and welcome.

And speaking of nostalgia, some real gems of broadcasting remembered

during a special tribute night

to the late Sir David Frost on Saturday.

Family and friends, among them some well-known faces,

spoke about the man in front of and behind the cameras.

Well, I think he was on one of the daily chat shows

a couple of years ago and rather than Sir David Frost

and underneath saying, broadcaster or journalist or whatever,

it just said the word legend.

Sir David would surely have enjoyed the complex politics

in this latest comedy drama.

Right, as guest of honour, he sits next to me.

Who should we put on the other side of him? The French ambassador.

Very funny.

You know he's coming, don't you? What?

No! Yes.

Comedy couple Mitchell and Webb joined the diplomatic world

in Ambassadors, on Wednesday night.

Thanks for your comments, as always.

Before we go, we wanted to let you know about a special programme

later in the series where we'll be putting your questions

to the top man at the BBC, the Director-General, Tony Hall.

If you've a question about BBC TV, anything you'd like him to answer,

please get in contact and of course you can do so in lots of ways.

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That's it, until next Sunday, goodbye.

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