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Good afternoon and welcome to Points of View - | 0:00:10 | 0:00:14 | |
your chance to take over the BBC and have your views aired on what | 0:00:14 | 0:00:18 | |
you've been watching - sometimes before you even watch. | 0:00:18 | 0:00:21 | |
As was the case this week with Monday's planned | 0:00:21 | 0:00:24 | |
edition of Panorama featuring North Korea. | 0:00:24 | 0:00:27 | |
No wonder North Korea is fast running out of friends. | 0:00:27 | 0:00:32 | |
The controversial decision to allow reporter John Sweeney to join | 0:00:32 | 0:00:36 | |
a group of students from the London School of Economics | 0:00:36 | 0:00:39 | |
on their visit to the country | 0:00:39 | 0:00:40 | |
made news before the programme even went to air. | 0:00:40 | 0:00:44 | |
And when it did broadcast, many of you were left | 0:00:44 | 0:00:47 | |
wondering if the controversy could have been avoided altogether. | 0:00:47 | 0:00:50 | |
We put your criticisms to the editor of Panorama, Tom Giles. | 0:01:28 | 0:01:32 | |
A lot of the hype, a lot of the fuss | 0:01:32 | 0:01:34 | |
and the controversy wasn't actually stirred up by us. | 0:01:34 | 0:01:37 | |
But aside from that, I'd say that this was a programme that was | 0:01:37 | 0:01:40 | |
played out to a mass audience on BBC One of well over five million. | 0:01:40 | 0:01:43 | |
That's the highest audience that Panorama's been able to get | 0:01:43 | 0:01:46 | |
since it went to 8:30 in 2007, and that should tell you there was | 0:01:46 | 0:01:50 | |
a huge public interest in what was going on in North Korea. | 0:01:50 | 0:01:52 | |
We were able to show that audience what was going on at that exact | 0:01:52 | 0:01:56 | |
historic moment when there was no other independent journalist there. | 0:01:56 | 0:01:59 | |
At the time when the regime was making extraordinary threats. | 0:01:59 | 0:02:03 | |
So I'm pretty confident that a lot of people came to it | 0:02:03 | 0:02:05 | |
and did learn something insightful and new. | 0:02:05 | 0:02:08 | |
More frustration, this time from Formula 1 fans who say the BBC | 0:02:08 | 0:02:12 | |
is ruining their enjoyment of the season | 0:02:12 | 0:02:15 | |
by letting the cat out of the bag. | 0:02:15 | 0:02:17 | |
Under new arrangements, BBC and Sky Sports now share the rights | 0:02:21 | 0:02:24 | |
to broadcast Formula 1 live. | 0:02:24 | 0:02:26 | |
The BBC will show nine of the rounds live, | 0:02:26 | 0:02:29 | |
with Sky Sports showing the remaining 11. | 0:02:29 | 0:02:32 | |
When they don't have the live rights, | 0:02:32 | 0:02:34 | |
the BBC will air highlight programmes later in the day. | 0:02:34 | 0:02:37 | |
Hello and welcome to qualifying for the Chinese Grand Prix. | 0:02:37 | 0:02:40 | |
The first of the BBC's live Grand Prix coverage | 0:02:40 | 0:02:44 | |
came last Saturday, from the Shanghai International Circuit. | 0:02:44 | 0:02:47 | |
The qualifying round was broadcast at the ungodly hour of 6:00am. | 0:02:47 | 0:02:51 | |
That's great for the early risers. | 0:02:52 | 0:02:55 | |
But for those of you hoping to catch the sporting drama on the | 0:02:55 | 0:02:58 | |
highlights programme at the far more sociable hour of 1:00, | 0:02:58 | 0:03:02 | |
the TV news was out to spoil the party - | 0:03:02 | 0:03:05 | |
without so much as a warning. | 0:03:05 | 0:03:07 | |
Lewis Hamilton has qualified for pole position in tomorrow's | 0:03:07 | 0:03:10 | |
Chinese Grand Prix. | 0:03:10 | 0:03:12 | |
So is it just a question of tough luck for those who don't | 0:03:33 | 0:03:36 | |
get up early in the morning? | 0:03:36 | 0:03:37 | |
We put the question to Richard Burgess, Head of Sports News. | 0:03:37 | 0:03:41 | |
We do carry warnings. | 0:03:41 | 0:03:42 | |
We carry a warning every time ahead of a highlights programme | 0:03:42 | 0:03:45 | |
when we haven't shown the race live. | 0:03:45 | 0:03:48 | |
That addresses the major concern of most of the audience. | 0:03:48 | 0:03:52 | |
We also do the same with football ahead of Match Of The Day. | 0:03:52 | 0:03:55 | |
And we also do the same with other sports, if we haven't shown it live. | 0:03:55 | 0:03:59 | |
If we've shown the race live, then we don't give warnings. | 0:03:59 | 0:04:02 | |
It would seem they're not going to back down on this one. | 0:04:02 | 0:04:04 | |
If you want to avoid the results from trackside, you're either | 0:04:04 | 0:04:07 | |
going to have to get up early for the live programming | 0:04:07 | 0:04:10 | |
or avoid BBC news for the day! | 0:04:10 | 0:04:14 | |
Now, the issue of subtitling. | 0:04:14 | 0:04:16 | |
A valued service, but earning a "could do better" mark from some. | 0:04:16 | 0:04:20 | |
Can somebody tell me why the BBC subtitles are not in sync with | 0:04:20 | 0:04:27 | |
the pictures and are not accurate? | 0:04:27 | 0:04:30 | |
There we are. No subtitles. | 0:04:39 | 0:04:42 | |
It'll come in a minute. | 0:04:42 | 0:04:43 | |
There you are. "You are watching Breakfast on BBC News." | 0:04:46 | 0:04:50 | |
What was it? Three, four seconds? | 0:04:50 | 0:04:53 | |
Inevitably, when you're subtitling a programme live, there is | 0:04:53 | 0:04:56 | |
a delay between when the viewer hears the programme audio | 0:04:56 | 0:05:01 | |
and the subtitle appears on the screen. | 0:05:01 | 0:05:03 | |
A restructuring firm will buy the 141 stores... | 0:05:03 | 0:05:06 | |
Predominantly, we use respeaking technology, | 0:05:06 | 0:05:09 | |
where a subtitler will sit and listen to the programme's sound | 0:05:09 | 0:05:13 | |
and they will respeak the dialogue into a speech recognition engine, | 0:05:13 | 0:05:17 | |
which then translates that audio into text. | 0:05:17 | 0:05:20 | |
And that's what appears on screen. | 0:05:20 | 0:05:22 | |
We access the programme audio as early as possible. | 0:05:22 | 0:05:27 | |
And often we are listening to the sound coming directly | 0:05:27 | 0:05:30 | |
out of the studio, rather than waiting for that to go via | 0:05:30 | 0:05:34 | |
satellite or via a distribution network to the viewer. | 0:05:34 | 0:05:37 | |
There's also the problem of the accuracy. | 0:05:37 | 0:05:41 | |
"This is the day the Gazan met the roof." | 0:05:41 | 0:05:46 | |
What on earth does that mean? | 0:05:46 | 0:05:47 | |
'I don't even know how people sound any more... ' | 0:05:47 | 0:05:50 | |
The subtitlers take a lot of time to train | 0:05:50 | 0:05:53 | |
vocabulary into their dictionaries. | 0:05:53 | 0:05:57 | |
Kim Jong Un, the Supreme Leader. Ban Ki Moon. | 0:05:57 | 0:06:00 | |
Inevitably, sometimes the speech recognition engine does not | 0:06:00 | 0:06:04 | |
translate what the subtitler is saying 100% accurately. | 0:06:04 | 0:06:08 | |
And that's when mistakes occur. | 0:06:08 | 0:06:09 | |
"Do you want O wind and a raised that picked?" | 0:06:09 | 0:06:14 | |
We do understand the frustrations that viewers feel. | 0:06:14 | 0:06:16 | |
We are in the process this year of rolling out new software | 0:06:16 | 0:06:20 | |
which will see a positive step change | 0:06:20 | 0:06:21 | |
in the levels of textual accuracy | 0:06:21 | 0:06:23 | |
that you see on-screen, without making a compromise | 0:06:23 | 0:06:27 | |
on the delay to those subtitles reaching the screen. | 0:06:27 | 0:06:31 | |
New software. Well, it's going to spoil the fun, | 0:06:31 | 0:06:34 | |
but it should make the subtitles we see on-screen less muddled. | 0:06:34 | 0:06:38 | |
Now, a muddle isn't something you'd expect from the high-brow quiz show | 0:06:38 | 0:06:42 | |
that is University Challenge - | 0:06:42 | 0:06:44 | |
the long-running series that pits the brightest of our students | 0:06:45 | 0:06:48 | |
against one another in a battle of brains. | 0:06:48 | 0:06:51 | |
But the brains behind the questions seem to have | 0:06:51 | 0:06:55 | |
suffered a lapse in concentration. | 0:06:55 | 0:06:57 | |
This is a question from the episode broadcast | 0:06:57 | 0:07:00 | |
on the 11th February this year. | 0:07:00 | 0:07:02 | |
Le Cid, La Veuve and Cinna are among the tragedies of which dramatist | 0:07:02 | 0:07:06 | |
born in Rouen in 1606 and a rival of Racine? | 0:07:06 | 0:07:08 | |
And this is that very same question from the episode just | 0:07:08 | 0:07:12 | |
nine weeks later in the series. | 0:07:12 | 0:07:14 | |
Le Cid, La Veuve and Cinna are among the tragedies of which dramatist | 0:07:14 | 0:07:17 | |
born in Rouen in 1606 and a rival of Racine? | 0:07:17 | 0:07:19 | |
In fact, three of the exact same questions were | 0:07:19 | 0:07:21 | |
aired across the two programmes. | 0:07:21 | 0:07:23 | |
-Sorry, we don't know. -It's Corneille. | 0:07:23 | 0:07:25 | |
Did the programme makers think their duplication would go unnoticed? | 0:07:37 | 0:07:41 | |
Quiz makers be warned - | 0:07:50 | 0:07:52 | |
you can't get anything past the Points of View customers. | 0:07:52 | 0:07:55 | |
And you were very engaged last Friday with Have I Got News for You. | 0:07:55 | 0:07:59 | |
I'm Brian Blessed! Yes, it's me! | 0:07:59 | 0:08:02 | |
BOOMING LAUGH | 0:08:02 | 0:08:03 | |
Actor Brian Blessed was tasked | 0:08:03 | 0:08:05 | |
with chairing the weekly satirical panel show. | 0:08:05 | 0:08:08 | |
Am I on that? | 0:08:08 | 0:08:09 | |
His failure at times to include the panel members | 0:08:09 | 0:08:12 | |
really raised hackles. | 0:08:12 | 0:08:13 | |
Have I Got News For You, | 0:08:36 | 0:08:38 | |
praised by you on this programme just last week, | 0:08:38 | 0:08:41 | |
but a very different story this week. | 0:08:41 | 0:08:44 | |
From hero to zero in seven days. | 0:08:44 | 0:08:46 | |
Time now for the odd one out round. | 0:08:46 | 0:08:48 | |
< It's you. | 0:08:48 | 0:08:49 | |
THEY ALL LAUGH | 0:08:49 | 0:08:51 | |
Now, remember the great national tripod shortage where | 0:08:51 | 0:08:54 | |
wobbly camera work used to be de rigeur. | 0:08:54 | 0:08:58 | |
Some of you have been in touch to say it's back. | 0:08:58 | 0:09:00 | |
It's not just the wobbles, it's the fast moves, | 0:09:00 | 0:09:03 | |
quick edits and out-of-focus shots | 0:09:03 | 0:09:05 | |
that are making a lot of people feel a bit at sea. | 0:09:05 | 0:09:08 | |
Hello. Things have been pretty steady at the BBC of late. | 0:09:08 | 0:09:12 | |
But I've noticed the old woozy cam is coming back into fashion. | 0:09:12 | 0:09:16 | |
Will you stop it and give me a steady shot! | 0:09:16 | 0:09:21 | |
# Shake it, shake, shake it, shake it, shake it | 0:09:21 | 0:09:24 | |
# Shake it like a Polaroid picture | 0:09:24 | 0:09:27 | |
Really straightforwardly well executed. | 0:09:27 | 0:09:29 | |
# Shake it, shake, shake it, shake it, shake it... # | 0:09:29 | 0:09:32 | |
I turned on the Sewing Bee expecting to be taught how to darn my socks or | 0:09:32 | 0:09:37 | |
turn up my trousers, and the camera technique immediately put me off. | 0:09:37 | 0:09:42 | |
And after five minutes, I had to stop watching it | 0:09:42 | 0:09:45 | |
because they were zooming in and out. It was going in and out of focus. | 0:09:45 | 0:09:50 | |
'Patrick and May's first challenge will test how good | 0:09:50 | 0:09:52 | |
'the sewers are at following a basic pattern.' | 0:09:52 | 0:09:55 | |
After a few minutes watching this, I did feel slightly odd. | 0:09:55 | 0:09:59 | |
I feel as though I'm on a rollercoaster. | 0:09:59 | 0:10:01 | |
It's the zooming in and out. | 0:10:01 | 0:10:03 | |
You do really feel quite queasy after a time. Does it add to it? | 0:10:03 | 0:10:07 | |
Does it make it seem more dynamic? | 0:10:07 | 0:10:10 | |
I'm not quite sure that sewing up a pair of trousers needs to be dynamic. | 0:10:10 | 0:10:16 | |
Ha! D'you see what he did there? | 0:10:16 | 0:10:18 | |
And wobble-cam is by no means confined | 0:10:18 | 0:10:21 | |
to the sedate world of sewing, because many more of you | 0:10:21 | 0:10:24 | |
have noticed shaky shots creeping back elsewhere. | 0:10:24 | 0:10:27 | |
At the moment, you have warnings of flash photography | 0:10:27 | 0:10:31 | |
coming up in programmes. | 0:10:31 | 0:10:33 | |
So perhaps you should have nausea warnings. | 0:10:33 | 0:10:36 | |
Or woozy warnings. | 0:10:36 | 0:10:38 | |
I like that. | 0:10:38 | 0:10:40 | |
So are we witnessing the return of motion sickness to our screens? | 0:10:40 | 0:10:44 | |
We asked the powers that be who commission the factual programmes. | 0:10:44 | 0:10:48 | |
If you spot programmes on the move, do let us know. | 0:11:08 | 0:11:11 | |
BBC Four's The Secret Life of Rockpools proved | 0:11:11 | 0:11:15 | |
a real hit on Tuesday night. | 0:11:15 | 0:11:17 | |
Palaeontologist Professor Richard Fortey took us | 0:11:17 | 0:11:20 | |
to an underwater world we know so little about. | 0:11:20 | 0:11:24 | |
And not a wobble cam in sight. | 0:11:24 | 0:11:26 | |
In a rockpool, there is nothing quite as sinister | 0:11:26 | 0:11:29 | |
as a marauding starfish. | 0:11:29 | 0:11:31 | |
Using the edge of the shell, | 0:11:32 | 0:11:34 | |
a limpet can push the starfish away to prevent it climbing on top. | 0:11:34 | 0:11:39 | |
-There he goes. Look at that. -That's really very agitated. | 0:11:39 | 0:11:44 | |
It becomes like an animated mushroom. | 0:11:44 | 0:11:46 | |
We can't say that rockpools lack drama. | 0:11:48 | 0:11:51 | |
Praise too for Casualty. | 0:12:03 | 0:12:05 | |
Last week's episode tackled the really difficult, and for some, | 0:12:05 | 0:12:09 | |
disturbing issue of female genital mutilation or FGM, as it is known. | 0:12:09 | 0:12:14 | |
The writer Sasha Hails is with me. Let's see a clip first. | 0:12:14 | 0:12:18 | |
Was it your sister that was due to have the operation? | 0:12:18 | 0:12:21 | |
Are you worried that someone might take her on another flight? | 0:12:23 | 0:12:26 | |
As long as you're a patient in this hospital, | 0:12:32 | 0:12:34 | |
I can help you and your little sister. | 0:12:34 | 0:12:36 | |
I'm pleased to say the writer, Sasha, joins us now. | 0:12:55 | 0:12:58 | |
Why tell this story? | 0:12:58 | 0:13:00 | |
Ten years ago, there was | 0:13:00 | 0:13:01 | |
a little girl who was affected by this in our neighbourhood. | 0:13:01 | 0:13:04 | |
I was haunted by her story ever since. | 0:13:04 | 0:13:06 | |
I've been looking for a way to tell it and finally, | 0:13:06 | 0:13:08 | |
Casualty had the courage to take it on. | 0:13:08 | 0:13:11 | |
And you had expert advice. | 0:13:11 | 0:13:12 | |
From Integrate Bristol and Daughters of Eve - | 0:13:12 | 0:13:15 | |
young people directly affected by this. | 0:13:15 | 0:13:18 | |
And when you talk to them, | 0:13:18 | 0:13:19 | |
you realise just how completely important it is. | 0:13:19 | 0:13:22 | |
Thank you. | 0:13:22 | 0:13:23 | |
And that is it from us for this week. | 0:13:23 | 0:13:25 | |
So keep in touch, please. | 0:13:25 | 0:13:27 | |
By post - at our new address, remember. | 0:13:27 | 0:13:29 | |
By phone. The number is charged as a local rate call from any landline. | 0:13:35 | 0:13:39 | |
Or join the messageboard. It's always lively there. | 0:13:44 | 0:13:47 | |
Finally, there's email. | 0:13:49 | 0:13:52 | |
Goodbye. | 0:13:52 | 0:13:53 | |
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