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The Scotland question. How did the BBC fare in its coverage? | 4:50:45 | 4:50:48 | |
Gardener's World, are green fingered fans being treated like dirt? | 4:50:48 | 4:50:51 | |
And The Great British Bakeoff's use of innuendo. | 4:50:51 | 4:50:54 | |
This topic is a big one. | 4:50:54 | 4:50:56 | |
Welcome to Points of View. | 4:50:56 | 4:50:58 | |
Good afternoon, and you won't be surprised we are | 4:51:09 | 4:51:11 | |
here in Glasgow in such a huge week for Scotland. | 4:51:11 | 4:51:15 | |
A week of high passion as Scots went to the | 4:51:15 | 4:51:17 | |
polls on the issue of independence. | 4:51:17 | 4:51:20 | |
But high passion too over the BBC's coverage of the campaigns, | 4:51:20 | 4:51:24 | |
and the question of whether it remained neutral itself became news. | 4:51:24 | 4:51:29 | |
Why should a Scottish voter believe you, a politician, | 4:51:29 | 4:51:34 | |
against men who are responsible for billions of pounds of profits? | 4:51:34 | 4:51:38 | |
He didn't answer, but he did attack the reporting of those in what | 4:51:38 | 4:51:41 | |
he called the metropolitan media. | 4:51:41 | 4:51:44 | |
BBC's hard won reputation is being besmirched by some | 4:51:44 | 4:51:47 | |
of your most eminent reporters. | 4:51:47 | 4:51:49 | |
Is it because ego-fuelled journalists are trying to | 4:51:49 | 4:51:52 | |
make the news, or be the news? | 4:51:52 | 4:51:54 | |
I don't know. | 4:51:54 | 4:51:55 | |
But be it Nick Robinson's wilfully misleading news report, | 4:51:55 | 4:51:59 | |
exposed so cruelly on social media afterwards, | 4:51:59 | 4:52:02 | |
or Eddie Mair's crass treatment of Alex Salmond in interview | 4:52:02 | 4:52:06 | |
contrasting so vividly with that of Alastair Darling's, earlier. | 4:52:06 | 4:52:10 | |
Or Jim Naughtie's routinely biased negativity. | 4:52:10 | 4:52:13 | |
There appears to be a lack of editorial bite. | 4:52:13 | 4:52:16 | |
The BBC used to be an exemplar to the fourth estate. Shame on you. | 4:52:16 | 4:52:20 | |
What you've said, Gordon Brown has said, apparently now | 4:52:20 | 4:52:22 | |
the leader of this campaign, not Alastair darling... | 4:52:22 | 4:52:25 | |
Not at all, Alastair's the leader. | 4:52:25 | 4:52:27 | |
Absolutely, you're the person who's been leading | 4:52:27 | 4:52:29 | |
for the last two weeks on this, | 4:52:29 | 4:52:31 | |
and it looks like a last minute panic to bribe Scotland to stick with it. | 4:52:31 | 4:52:36 | |
The decreasing impartiality of the BBC was | 4:52:36 | 4:52:39 | |
highlighted in the Panorama programme on the 16th | 4:52:39 | 4:52:41 | |
when David Dimbleby interviewed Gordon Brown and Alex Salmond. | 4:52:42 | 4:52:45 | |
The attitude to Brown was argumentative, aggressive | 4:52:45 | 4:52:48 | |
and almost bullying. | 4:52:48 | 4:52:49 | |
In complete contrast to the cosy fireside chat with Salmond. | 4:52:49 | 4:52:53 | |
No searching questions on the NHS, the EU, NATO, UN or privatisation. | 4:52:53 | 4:52:59 | |
BBC, impartiality, please. | 4:52:59 | 4:53:02 | |
So, with claims of bias from both sides, | 4:53:02 | 4:53:05 | |
did the BBC always get the balance right? | 4:53:05 | 4:53:08 | |
We asked the BBC's news department if they were happy with how | 4:53:08 | 4:53:11 | |
their presenters and reporters had performed, | 4:53:11 | 4:53:14 | |
and this is what they had to say. | 4:53:14 | 4:53:15 | |
-The stage is set for four days of competition. -Drama. -Inspiration. | 4:53:24 | 4:53:29 | |
And glory. | 4:53:30 | 4:53:32 | |
Patriotism of a different kind, next. | 4:53:32 | 4:53:34 | |
And loads of you telling us | 4:53:34 | 4:53:35 | |
just how inspired you've been by the bravery and resilience of | 4:53:35 | 4:53:38 | |
the former service men and women who took part | 4:53:38 | 4:53:41 | |
in Prince Harry's Invictus games. | 4:53:41 | 4:53:43 | |
-Is it going to make me cry? -Well, maybe. | 4:54:03 | 4:54:05 | |
That many watching the coverage of the opening | 4:54:05 | 4:54:07 | |
ceremony on The One Show were left calling for | 4:54:07 | 4:54:10 | |
a little less conversation, and a little more action, please. | 4:54:10 | 4:54:14 | |
To see the faces of those individuals that have given | 4:54:14 | 4:54:17 | |
so much for their country, and now we get the chance to | 4:54:17 | 4:54:20 | |
show our appreciation for everything that they have given, really. | 4:54:20 | 4:54:24 | |
It really is incredibly emotional. | 4:54:24 | 4:54:26 | |
Doesn't sound good, does it? | 4:54:36 | 4:54:38 | |
And it wasn't just The One Show team hogging the sporting limelight. | 4:54:38 | 4:54:42 | |
The special highlights programmes were, for some, well, | 4:54:42 | 4:54:45 | |
lacking in highlights. | 4:54:45 | 4:54:47 | |
Back stories of the athletes sometimes took precedence, | 4:54:47 | 4:54:50 | |
and in one programme it took 17 minutes before we got to see | 4:54:50 | 4:54:54 | |
any of the day's sporting action. | 4:54:54 | 4:54:56 | |
Away cleanly, Chalmers just got left a little bit at the beginning, | 4:54:58 | 4:55:01 | |
and over on the inside, Akakpo of France is flying away | 4:55:01 | 4:55:03 | |
and it's got to be the Frenchman who's storming away from the field. | 4:55:03 | 4:55:07 | |
Campbell takes second for the USA, but it's gold for France. | 4:55:07 | 4:55:11 | |
The same old celebrities with the same old chat | 4:55:11 | 4:55:13 | |
that now seems obligatory. | 4:55:13 | 4:55:16 | |
Just time filling and airing past celebs. | 4:55:16 | 4:55:19 | |
No games. I switched off. | 4:55:19 | 4:55:22 | |
Save their fees. Give the money to the real heroes. | 4:55:22 | 4:55:25 | |
And clubs for the future of sport. | 4:55:25 | 4:55:27 | |
Let's move on, | 4:55:27 | 4:55:29 | |
and another group of viewers feeling let down are the gardeners. | 4:55:29 | 4:55:32 | |
Fans of Gardener's World say that they are at the bottom | 4:55:32 | 4:55:36 | |
of the heap on the BBC's priority list. | 4:55:36 | 4:55:39 | |
# I beg your pardon | 4:55:39 | 4:55:41 | |
# I never promised you a rose garden | 4:55:42 | 4:55:46 | |
I love Gardener's World. Fridays, at half past eight, the world stops. | 4:55:46 | 4:55:52 | |
I've enjoyed Gardener's World for a long time. | 4:55:52 | 4:55:55 | |
I've watched it from Geoff Hamilton, | 4:55:56 | 4:55:58 | |
through Alan Titchmarsh to Monty Don and it's fresh. | 4:55:58 | 4:56:02 | |
I think Gardener's World has been treated poorly. | 4:56:02 | 4:56:05 | |
It gets cancelled for snooker, the athletics, or the Ryder Cup is on. | 4:56:05 | 4:56:12 | |
And I think that's not the way to treat a programme that's been | 4:56:14 | 4:56:18 | |
running for 46 years. | 4:56:18 | 4:56:21 | |
Now, I'm afraid we're not here next week, because it's snooker. | 4:56:21 | 4:56:25 | |
We shan't be back next week because the Proms are on. | 4:56:25 | 4:56:28 | |
We're a nation of gardeners. | 4:56:28 | 4:56:30 | |
BBC give it so little a rating that they feel that they can move it | 4:56:30 | 4:56:35 | |
or even cancel it. It seems to be very low on the priority list. | 4:56:35 | 4:56:39 | |
Which isn't fair, and it's not reasonable. | 4:56:39 | 4:56:42 | |
I'll be back here next week, half an hour later because of the tennis. | 4:56:42 | 4:56:45 | |
Next week, we're still at nine o'clock | 4:56:45 | 4:56:47 | |
because we follow the athletics. | 4:56:47 | 4:56:49 | |
And we are on at the later time of nine o'clock. | 4:56:49 | 4:56:53 | |
For the rest of this series, we shall be coming on an hour later, | 4:56:53 | 4:56:58 | |
at 9:30. | 4:56:58 | 4:57:00 | |
I know that an awful lot of Gardener's World viewers | 4:57:00 | 4:57:03 | |
didn't want the 9:30 slot, and we weren't given the opportunity | 4:57:03 | 4:57:08 | |
to say how we felt about it. | 4:57:08 | 4:57:10 | |
That was so easy to do. | 4:57:10 | 4:57:12 | |
I'll be creating dishes that anyone can cook... | 4:57:12 | 4:57:15 | |
In the last five or ten years, | 4:57:15 | 4:57:16 | |
BBC channels have become awash with cookery programmes. | 4:57:16 | 4:57:21 | |
We gardeners get 30 minutes. | 4:57:23 | 4:57:26 | |
It certainly sends a message to gardeners and to non-gardeners. | 4:57:26 | 4:57:31 | |
That gardening is second class. | 4:57:31 | 4:57:33 | |
It looks to me like the BBC just doesn't care. Simple as that. | 4:57:33 | 4:57:37 | |
So is gardening getting a rough deal | 4:57:37 | 4:57:40 | |
in comparison to other hobby shows like cookery? | 4:57:40 | 4:57:43 | |
Certainly if you look at the past week from last Sunday to today, | 4:57:43 | 4:57:47 | |
there have been a total of 21 hours of cookery shows. | 4:57:47 | 4:57:51 | |
And just two and a half hours, | 4:57:51 | 4:57:53 | |
including a Gardener's World repeat given over to green-fingered fans. | 4:57:53 | 4:57:57 | |
So why, given how little time the BBC is spending on gardening is it | 4:57:57 | 4:58:02 | |
so hard for this programme to hold on to a regular slot on BBC Two? | 4:58:02 | 4:58:07 | |
But it seems even that plan hasn't worked because next week | 4:58:20 | 4:58:24 | |
Gardener's World will again be uprooted | 4:58:24 | 4:58:27 | |
to the earlier time of eight o'clock. | 4:58:27 | 4:58:29 | |
Lily's mother had left her on the steps of Castlepollard. | 4:58:33 | 4:58:37 | |
A home run by the catholic church, | 4:58:37 | 4:58:40 | |
where unmarried mothers were hidden away in shame to have their children. | 4:58:40 | 4:58:44 | |
This World Ireland's Lost Babies, | 4:58:44 | 4:58:46 | |
with journalist Martin Sixsmith explored the story | 4:58:46 | 4:58:49 | |
of the thousands of illegitimate children | 4:58:49 | 4:58:51 | |
taken from their mothers in Ireland and sent abroad a generation ago. | 4:58:51 | 4:58:56 | |
The follow-up to the Oscar-nominated film Philomena proving | 4:58:56 | 4:58:59 | |
a gripping and emotional watch for viewers. | 4:58:59 | 4:59:02 | |
Now, delighting audiences, the drama, Our Zoo, | 4:59:10 | 4:59:13 | |
which tells the real-life story of how, in the 1930s, | 4:59:13 | 4:59:16 | |
the Mottershead family founded Chester Zoo. | 4:59:16 | 4:59:20 | |
It's perfect for animals. | 4:59:20 | 4:59:21 | |
What sort of animals? | 4:59:21 | 4:59:23 | |
Horses, peacocks, elephants. | 4:59:23 | 4:59:26 | |
Elephants? You're off your rocker. | 4:59:26 | 4:59:29 | |
George, what's going on? | 4:59:29 | 4:59:30 | |
I want to build a zoo. | 4:59:32 | 4:59:33 | |
Good boy. | 4:59:49 | 4:59:51 | |
Your granny's going to kill me. | 4:59:51 | 4:59:52 | |
Mum too. | 4:59:53 | 4:59:55 | |
Lots of praise here for the two-legged, | 4:59:55 | 4:59:57 | |
and four-legged stars of this show. | 4:59:57 | 4:59:59 | |
But some of you are asking | 4:59:59 | 5:00:01 | |
if the series which airs at nine o'clock on Wednesday nights | 5:00:01 | 5:00:04 | |
wouldn't be better suited to a more family friendly time. | 5:00:04 | 5:00:07 | |
I'm really enjoying Our Zoo. | 5:00:07 | 5:00:09 | |
I think it's a lovely programme, but it's a shame it's being buried in the | 5:00:09 | 5:00:14 | |
Wednesday evening time slot instead of the real feel-good | 5:00:14 | 5:00:16 | |
factor of Sunday night TV. | 5:00:16 | 5:00:18 | |
Just it's too late. | 5:00:20 | 5:00:22 | |
I won't be able to watch it. | 5:00:24 | 5:00:27 | |
Why wont they put it on earlier? | 5:00:27 | 5:00:29 | |
It's so annoying. | 5:00:29 | 5:00:30 | |
Why wont they put it on earlier? | 5:00:32 | 5:00:37 | |
Nathan Higgins, and a plea for his favourite show | 5:00:37 | 5:00:40 | |
to be aired before bedtime. | 5:00:40 | 5:00:42 | |
Now, next on the menu, The Great British Bakeoff. | 5:00:42 | 5:00:45 | |
Who would've thought amateur baking could attract millions of viewers? | 5:00:45 | 5:00:49 | |
And it's returned, with lots of controversy and drama. | 5:00:49 | 5:00:52 | |
But for some it is the issue of too much sauce or | 5:00:52 | 5:00:56 | |
sauciness that is leaving a bad taste. | 5:00:56 | 5:00:59 | |
Oh. Saucy. | 5:01:01 | 5:01:03 | |
Right, Pussy Galore, Paul Hollywood, if you'd like to leave the tent. | 5:01:04 | 5:01:09 | |
See you later, Pussy. | 5:01:09 | 5:01:10 | |
I've got a nice pair, Louis. | 5:01:10 | 5:01:11 | |
We've already had the orange segments | 5:01:11 | 5:01:13 | |
and a thorough sponge down from Mary Berry. | 5:01:13 | 5:01:15 | |
-Perfect nuts. -Wow. To be commended on your nuts by Mary Berry. | 5:01:15 | 5:01:18 | |
You have got two hours to pop Mary's cherry | 5:01:20 | 5:01:24 | |
in the oven and bring it out again. | 5:01:24 | 5:01:26 | |
Are you a pie or a tart? | 5:01:27 | 5:01:29 | |
My God, she's a sex maniac! | 5:01:29 | 5:01:32 | |
Oh, so saucy. | 5:01:32 | 5:01:34 | |
Cock-a-leekie. | 5:01:34 | 5:01:35 | |
And complaints too about the companion programme | 5:02:00 | 5:02:02 | |
An Extra Slice, presented by Jo Brand. | 5:02:02 | 5:02:05 | |
Julian, do you like to hold yours up to the window? | 5:02:05 | 5:02:08 | |
It seemed full of innuendos. | 5:02:09 | 5:02:13 | |
It was controversial, it was lewd, it was mucky. | 5:02:13 | 5:02:17 | |
Even the panel seemed quite uncomfortable. | 5:02:17 | 5:02:20 | |
Why don't we just call it The Jo Brand Show | 5:02:20 | 5:02:22 | |
and then just forget baking? | 5:02:22 | 5:02:24 | |
Great British Bakeoff, just too hot in the kitchen for some. | 5:02:24 | 5:02:29 | |
They get away with a lot more, though, | 5:02:29 | 5:02:31 | |
on BBC Three, with shows like Bad Education which returned on Tuesday. | 5:02:31 | 5:02:36 | |
Mein Kampf was the name of John Barrowman's autobiography. | 5:02:36 | 5:02:40 | |
-You thought that Hitler's first name was Heil? -Heil Hitler. | 5:02:40 | 5:02:44 | |
-That Hezbollah and Hamas were chips and dips? -Well, they sound yummy. | 5:02:44 | 5:02:48 | |
And the new series with all its inappropriateness - | 5:02:48 | 5:02:51 | |
is that a word, teacher? | 5:02:51 | 5:02:53 | |
- winning fans all over again. | 5:02:53 | 5:02:55 | |
This week's Bad Education was amazing. | 5:02:55 | 5:02:57 | |
It's got to be one of my favourite comedies. | 5:02:57 | 5:02:59 | |
Stephen's interview was just hilarious. | 5:02:59 | 5:03:03 | |
Alfie's teaching methods never fail to amuse me. | 5:03:03 | 5:03:06 | |
And Fraser's haircut | 5:03:06 | 5:03:07 | |
and his desk-way were probably the highlight of the whole programme. | 5:03:07 | 5:03:11 | |
It's such a funny episode. | 5:03:11 | 5:03:13 | |
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Well, we have been delighted by the number of you who've | 5:04:01 | 5:04:04 | |
got in touch this week, and we will do it all again next Sunday. | 5:04:04 | 5:04:07 | |
So do keep those comments coming in and until then, goodbye. | 5:04:07 | 5:04:11 |