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Last time, four high-profile pensioners moved in

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with four OAP hosts.

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I'm Lesley.

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And confronted the problems faced by old people living in their own homes.

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I am shocked to think that the fridge is just so empty.

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One thing I'm not going to do is bloody choke up.

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-WHEEZY COUGHING

-I've been here a day. I feel exhausted.

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Sorry, I can't say it.

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Tonight, they will experience an old age even more challenging.

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Why do they keep me alive?

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This is the story of four famous pensioners

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who leave behind their wealth, comfort and busy lives

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to move into care homes for the elderly.

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I'm now in respite care from the chaos that is my life.

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-Oh!

-I'll be stuck in here for the whole day.

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Many of us dread the prospect of ending up in care.

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All of us would rather be in our own homes. I'm sure that must be true.

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But most of us will be forced to spend our final years relying on others to survive.

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-It's not going to work.

-All right, get a breath.

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Like nearly half a million pensioners across the country.

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67-year-old BBC news reporter John Simpson.

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Nobody ever thinks of themselves in a care home or on their death bed.

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Those are the things you can't conceive of.

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71-year-old presenter and journalist Gloria Hunniford.

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My biggest dread in life is not being able to live my life and die in my own home.

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-65-year-old actor and presenter Tony Robinson.

-It might be really boring. I'm most scared of that.

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And 66-year-old actress Lesley Joseph.

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I hope I can bring a little humour to their lives. I'm glass half-full, not glass half-empty.

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How will the four new care home residents cope with living a life they all fear?

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I've done a runner. I couldn't last two whole days.

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Will the experience surprise, even change their attitudes on how many of us will live out our final years?

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Maybe for the first time I realise it must be a relief in some ways to come into a place like this.

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-This is exciting.

-Cheers.

-Cheers to you.

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I'm 67. I haven't got that many years to go.

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I just want to run back to London and go and scoop my mother up.

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This programme contains some strong language.

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It's day one and the four well-known pensioners are on their way

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to experience an old age a world away from their own.

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It's going to be really good. Well, I don't know what I'll find when I get there.

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For the next three days, they're each moving into one of the UK's 20,000 care homes

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to live alongside British pensioners who can no longer cope living on their own.

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I want to get a better understanding

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of what the less sort of glamorous side of old age is.

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I think I'll want to try the things that people take part in,

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but not because my legs are dodgy or, hopefully, not because I'm incontinent,

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but because I'd like to get a feel of it.

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65-year-old presenter Tony Robinson made up his mind about care homes

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after watching his mum spend the final years of her life in hers.

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There was a sucking of energy out of her.

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There was a sucking of...life

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which meant that not only her,

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but virtually all the elderly people who were there that I spoke to didn't really want to live any more.

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And that's why I feel in a sense terribly angry about the way that we treat the elderly,

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but I also don't know what the alternative is

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and I kind of hope that the journey that we're on now

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might in some way flag up what that alternative or those alternatives might be.

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It's not the kind of day that you would want to be taken into a care home.

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It's freezing cold, it's rainy, it's gloomy.

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Tony's home for the next three days is the Royal Star & Garter in Solihull,

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a charity-run care home for 58 ex-servicemen and women and their partners.

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-Hello, Sue.

-You must be Tony.

-Yes, I am.

-Nice to meet you. Welcome to the Royal Star & Garter.

-Thank you.

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Tony wants to find out if the residents here are happy living their final years in care.

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-I love this - "home, sweet home".

-And it is our home, sweet home.

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Well, let's hope so.

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-Here we are.

-Oh, my room.

-This is your room.

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-Lovely to have you.

-Thanks, Sue.

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Sue's gone now, yeah?

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It's, it's...

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It's lovely

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and it actually does smell of fresh paint, not the smells that I feared,

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and it's a very big room,

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but what's life going to be like for the people who are here? That's the really important thing.

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If I were going into this home for real,

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it would be the ultimate dread of my life.

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Consumer champion Gloria Hunniford has strong views on care homes.

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I've said to all my family, "I never want to go into a care home."

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There have been some very damning reports of late. I'm not being naive about it.

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I know that there are some very, very good care homes,

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so it might be a lovely home and I might change my mind altogether. Who knows?

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Gloria has been admitted to Hoylake Cottage on the Wirral,

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a nursing home with a difference.

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"Caring for life." That sounds a nice way of putting it. That's good.

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Do a few more side steps for me.

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Hoylake has a rehab unit for pensioners recovering from a serious illness or an accident.

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Take your time. That's it, left leg...

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It's a potentially life-changing crossroads for many old people

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who are assessed on whether they are fit enough to live at home or need to move into a care home for good.

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So I guess I'd better go and get my things in. I brought far too much, not knowing where I was coming to.

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Hi. Good morning.

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-Good morning.

-How are you?

-I'm Lin Cooke, the chief executive...

-Sorry? Lin?

-Lin Cooke, yes.

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-Not a man in a grey suit, a nice lady in a pink cardigan. Nice to meet you.

-Thank you.

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I'd better make it clear to you right up front,

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-it's my biggest dread in my whole life, having to go into a care home at the end of my days.

-Yeah.

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If you gave everybody the choice, they would rather die in their own home.

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We would hope that we could give you the positive side,

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if you ever had to make that choice, you could see the good side of it.

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I'm looking forward to it. I have far too much stuff with me. Can anybody help me with it?

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-Denise will get one of the caretakers to get your belongings.

-Thank you.

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-My stuff.

-It is.

-See what I mean? A lot of stuff!

-That's fine.

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-I'll take you through here.

-My room.

-Your room, yes.

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BBC world affairs editor John Simpson would rather finish his own life

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than move into care or depend on others in old age.

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I've made no secret of the fact that I would rather just sort of take a pill

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and end things, rather than live in misery and be a nuisance to people.

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Life is a wonderful thing,

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but life just in its most technical sense, just with the heart still going,

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is not worth having.

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John is going to a care home for dementia sufferers,

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the kind of condition he fears more than any.

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-We'll go that side of Donald.

-Yes, I'd better go that side.

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But staff here hold very different views to his.

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I think it's going to be fantastic having a celebrity stay here,

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so they can understand that life doesn't end coming into a care home,

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especially a dementia care home.

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They don't believe anyone should be written off,

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regardless of illness or age.

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-Shall we put her on the chair?

-Yes.

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Dementia covers a range of brain diseases, the most common of which is Alzheimer's.

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Symptoms include loss of memory and problems with communication and understanding.

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No, I really don't know who I am.

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It affects nearly 800,000 pensioners in the UK.

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-Hello, John.

-Good morning.

-Come on in.

-Thank you.

-My name's Marsha.

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-Hello, Marsha.

-I'm the care manager here.

-Excellent.

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-It looks very sort of... It's very bright and nice.

-Thank you. That's what we have aimed to do here.

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-This is your room.

-So it is.

-With your name on the door.

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-My God, me all over it!

-The residents here, John, do have some form of dementia.

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Have any relatives of yours had dementia, or friends?

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Friends, certainly.

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That's all. Nobody in my own immediate family has had it.

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So, hopefully, over your stay here, you'll see how the carers will actually use the environment

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to help the residents, especially in bouts of bad confusion.

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Three years ago, Lesley Joseph had to find the right home for her 96-year-old mum.

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In the end, she decided on a high quality private care home that she could afford within her means.

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She is now being looked after properly

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where they have activities, where they have exercise classes, where they have physiotherapy,

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all the things she needs to make the quality of her life really good.

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Lesley is going to spend the next three days at Hillview in Middlesbrough

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where nearly all the residents are funded by the local authority.

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The council pays £464 a week for its residents, the minimum amount recommended for their care.

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-Hello. How are you? I'm Lesley Joseph.

-Hi, I'm Sheila Smith, the home manager.

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-How are you?

-Fine.

-Nice to meet you.

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Lesley wants to find out if care at this end of the spectrum is really good enough.

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I'm now in respite care from the chaos that is my life.

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-Good afternoon, everybody. We've got a new resident joining us for a few days.

-Hello. Are you all right?

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-I'm Lesley.

-Eh?

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-I'm Lesley.

-Oh, I'm Mildred.

-Hello, Mildred. Nice to meet you.

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It's lunchtime and residents Mildred, a former hairdresser, and Mary-Ann, a former housewife,

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are giving Lesley her first taste of Hillview.

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Would you like a sandwich? We have egg mayonnaise, ham and cheese.

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-Do they have a hot meal in the evening?

-Yes.

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How long have you been here?

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-Oh, not very long.

-Not very long?

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-And is this now your home?

-No, my home's in Lancaster.

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Right.

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-But you can go back and visit?

-It's not the same, though.

-No, not the same as living there.

-No, it isn't.

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-I'm Mary-Ann.

-Mary-Ann? That's a lovely name.

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Have you been here long, Mary-Ann?

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-Yes, a few years.

-A few years?

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-A good few years.

-Yeah?

-Yes.

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And you enjoy it here?

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I like it.

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-Do you?

-Yes.

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-I'm in for good.

-For good?

-Yeah, yes.

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'When you sit down, you just have a feeling

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'that they've all left their homes and even now, after a few years,

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'it's difficult to accept that this is now home.'

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And that must be such a hard thing.

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-Welcome to the main lounge.

-Thank you.

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-This is Donald.

-Very nice to see you.

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Most of the residents in John's new home have mild to moderate dementia.

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-Gaynor.

-Hello. I'm John.

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But it's a progressive disease which means the symptoms will get gradually worse.

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-Hello. How do you do? John Simpson.

-Oh, dear. I can't get right up.

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So how long have you been here?

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Only minutes. THEY LAUGH

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Oh, I'm so pleased to think that we're working.

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Yes, well...

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-I've seen you before.

-The thing is, I'm sometimes on the television.

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-That's what it is.

-You know how it is.

-Yes, I do indeed.

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-Have you got children?

-Yes, I have.

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So what do your children do?

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Um... What do they do?

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-SHE LAUGHS

-I know the feeling!

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-How old are they?

-I can't even tell you that. Isn't that ridiculous?

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I'm just thinking...

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Your mind, if I had one.

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'I'm learning already'

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not to ask those kind of precise, factual questions

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because many of them don't remember.

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And did you live in Cambridge?

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I lived in, uh...

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-I lived in Cambridge.

-Oh, yes.

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'You've got to understand their limitations.'

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It's difficult.

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-I'm just going to go to my room, if you don't mind.

-Of course you can. Can you remember the way?

-Yes.

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-I'm not one of your patients, you know.

-No, no.

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Perhaps I do belong here then because I thought it was here.

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It must be on another floor?

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Oh, it's down here.

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I'm having my senior moment. Here I am.

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KNOCK ON DOOR

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Hi, Donald.

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I've brought Tony to come... just to say hello.

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New boy Tony is being introduced to another recent arrival.

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-Hi, Donald.

-Nice to see you, anyway.

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94-year-old former Major Donald Bennett fought in World War Two and won the Military Cross for bravery.

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He moved into the home three weeks ago, but is having difficulty settling in,

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which comes as no surprise to Tony.

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-Where were you before you were here?

-I was living at home.

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My wife died over 14 years ago now, so I've been on my own since then, really.

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-So you had to make the decision to come into care?

-Yes.

-Because...?

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Well, I'd fallen over two or three times at home.

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I felt the time had come. I was getting a bit of a burden rather, to other people, anyway.

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How did you feel when you first got here?

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Well, it was all rather strange.

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You know, you don't have the freedom of a whole house to roam about in and so forth, as I did before.

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-Do you still feel like a new boy?

-I do rather, yes.

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I haven't sampled many of the activities

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or any of the activities really, I think,

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which they lay on here for the residents.

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I'd still rather be home, of course. Who wouldn't?

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But it's just the increasing difficulties that one faces at home when you're on your own

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that rather force a decision out of you like that, so...

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Since Donald arrived, he has chosen to spend most of his time in his room.

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-Are you still all right for some physio this afternoon, Donald?

-Yes.

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Physio Nicola thinks a motorised wheelchair would really improve his mobility,

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but is struggling to persuade Donald even to use a Zimmer frame.

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-We'll have a little walk with your frame because we're still getting used to that one.

-Yes.

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-Why do you need one of these little machines?

-I've never used one before until...

-Until I suggested it.

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It will help a little bit with your balance because occasionally, you do have a little wobble, don't you?

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-When you're using your sticks. Ever so slightly.

-I have been over before now, yes.

-Yeah.

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If you just take your time...

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How does it feel, Donald?

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I'm not terribly confident with it, I must say.

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Zimmer frames are a gag, aren't they? You put that in a sentence and you're bound to get a laugh.

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It's the association with the name, really, that people feel you're one of the has-beens, I suppose.

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-It has that stigma.

-That you're past it.

-Yes. That you're past it, you're over the hill.

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-I suppose it is.

-Not necessarily. If we improve your mobility by using the walking frame,

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-we're hoping you can walk that bit longer and you'll be independent for a bit longer.

-Yes.

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There is a possibility that he's still clinging on

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to what he had before, but then why wouldn't he?

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I don't know that I want him to accept this place as home.

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Who wants suddenly to adopt an institution after a whole life

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of living in their house with their wife and all those memories?

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-Your name is?

-Ann.

-Very nice to meet you. And...?

-Dennis.

-How are you?

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Gloria is meeting patients at Hoylake to see if they share her fear of winding up in care.

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-What happened to you?

-I had a fall.

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-I didn't hurt myself.

-Didn't break anything?

-No.

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-So why did they bring you here?

-To learn to walk again.

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-How did you feel before you came in?

-A bit apprehensive.

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-But it's fantastic.

-Yeah.

-Couldn't be better.

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-And how would you feel if you were here permanently?

-I wouldn't like that.

-Why's that?

-I've had enough.

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-You want to go home?

-Yes.

-Fed up watching the telly and reading the paper?

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And getting fed every four hours.

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-I miss my golf now.

-Do you miss it?

-I do.

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That's the thing which I suppose, for all of us, that's one of the worst things about getting older.

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You just have to accept that there are things you can't do any more.

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Tomorrow, staff will decide whether 79-year-old Dennis is ready to return home.

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-I'm stiff.

-Take your time.

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Dennis had a stroke at the age of 60

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and his wife Ivy has been his carer for the last 19 years.

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When the assessment team goes in tomorrow, what are your hopes, Ivy, as to what happens?

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Well, I'm hoping that Dennis performs how they want him to

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and they can give him the OK to, you know, discharge him for home.

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How would you feel if it turned out that the assessment team said,

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"I don't think he can cope that well at home," and he had to stay here?

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Oh, no, I think I'd want him home. I think I'd want him home.

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So is there anything that you feel you might not be able to do when you go home?

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-Play football.

-LAUGHTER

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Play football and golf, eh?

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I only hope he doesn't get too emotional

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-because he can. Can't you?

-Do I?

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Yes.

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'I like Dennis very much. He is a man who is charged and ready to go home.

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'They'll have to wait for that assessment to see whether he can manage everything.'

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Or maybe more importantly, can his wife manage everything?

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I think I'd be right if you asked everybody, "How would you like to end your life?"

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They would say, "I want to be in my own home." That's normal.

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But we know that there are many circumstances under which people can't remain like that

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and that is the worry for everybody getting a tad older.

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Many of the residents in the dementia home are already in bed.

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How can you see in the dark like this?

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But still up are John and 88-year-old Hilda.

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He's put on a light now.

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She has recently taken to walking in the garden at night.

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No, we can't get past there, so we'd better go back.

0:20:160:20:19

Hilda has Alzheimer's and her family had to move her into care three months ago

0:20:190:20:23

when it was no longer safe for her to live alone at home.

0:20:230:20:27

-Couldn't we get over that fence?

-Wouldn't it be nice?

-Yeah.

0:20:270:20:31

-Would you like to get out?

-Yes.

0:20:310:20:33

-I know, I think I would too.

-I don't want to stay here.

0:20:330:20:37

-Don't you?

-No.

0:20:370:20:39

I just want to go away.

0:20:390:20:41

Oh, I'm sorry.

0:20:410:20:43

All I want is just a little bit of happiness, but I'm not getting any.

0:20:430:20:48

Aw!

0:20:480:20:50

Oh, my dear, well...

0:20:530:20:56

What can we do? Can we do anything to make you happy?

0:20:560:20:59

There's nothing.

0:21:000:21:02

Oh, I'm sorry.

0:21:020:21:04

If I could get over that fence,

0:21:060:21:08

I'd be as happy as anything then.

0:21:080:21:11

I know, I know.

0:21:120:21:15

Shall we go in here? Can we get in this way?

0:21:150:21:18

After a day in the dementia home,

0:21:180:21:20

John is still questioning whether people with this condition can have any quality of life.

0:21:200:21:26

I think it's pretty difficult to form any kind of realistic relationship

0:21:260:21:33

with any of the people here, to be honest.

0:21:330:21:36

Will you take your pill for me?

0:21:360:21:38

SHE LAUGHS

0:21:380:21:40

They're in the process of drifting away from relationships

0:21:400:21:45

and personal understandings and all that sort of stuff,

0:21:450:21:49

so I haven't really altered my view

0:21:490:21:52

that if it were me and I saw which way the wind was blowing,

0:21:520:21:56

I would try to find a way of avoiding it.

0:21:560:22:00

You're a funny one, you, aren't you?

0:22:000:22:03

# Show me the way to go home... #

0:22:030:22:07

Shall we go and get hammered?

0:22:070:22:09

At the end of the first day, things aren't much better for Tony.

0:22:100:22:15

-Cheers.

-Cheers to you.

0:22:150:22:16

But at least his care home has a free bar where he can drown his sorrows with the ex-servicemen.

0:22:160:22:23

I'm sorry to keep you up late, gentlemen. It's five to seven.

0:22:230:22:27

-I'm leading you into bad habits.

-This is exciting.

0:22:270:22:30

'Isn't it extraordinary about that generation?'

0:22:300:22:33

I was surrounded by all these guys who are at least 25 years older than me.

0:22:330:22:38

The experiences that they've had, the heroism that they've undergone,

0:22:380:22:42

and if you passed most of them in the street, you probably wouldn't give them a second look

0:22:420:22:47

and that's what fucks me off about a place like this.

0:22:470:22:52

It really does. That there are all these people

0:22:520:22:55

whose minds are such... of such quality

0:22:550:23:00

and we've put them in an institution.

0:23:000:23:02

I don't like that. I'm sure there ought to be an alternative.

0:23:020:23:06

# Show me the way to go home... #

0:23:060:23:09

That does date us, doesn't it?

0:23:090:23:11

-Night-night. See you tomorrow.

-See you tomorrow.

-Good night.

0:23:130:23:18

I still can't remember where the bloody place is. Is it down there?

0:23:180:23:22

-No, it's not down there.

-Yes, it is.

-Is it there?

-Yeah.

0:23:220:23:25

Most of the new residents are settling in for the night.

0:23:250:23:28

But in Middlesbrough...

0:23:290:23:32

Going to bed is the furthest thing from Lesley and fellow residents' minds.

0:23:360:23:40

There's a bit of a row going on in there.

0:23:580:24:01

It's actually making me laugh, but I probably shouldn't.

0:24:010:24:06

'I'm not quite sure what started it, if two people don't get on.'

0:24:100:24:14

Or if everybody is just going a bit stir-crazy at the end of a long day.

0:24:140:24:18

I think if you were living here and you didn't get on with somebody, that would make life very difficult.

0:24:180:24:25

I think the sort of adapting you have to do must be huge.

0:24:250:24:28

You lose your independence, you're living with other people you don't know. It'll never be plain sailing.

0:24:280:24:35

-You shut up!

-You shut your face!

0:24:350:24:37

KNOCK ON DOOR

0:24:410:24:43

-Good morning.

-Good morning.

-Hello.

-I'm putting make-up on in the bathroom.

-Right.

0:24:430:24:49

I could do with a radio here.

0:24:520:24:54

I can't believe John Humphrys is bashing away at some poor politician and I can't listen to it.

0:24:540:25:00

-Good morning.

-Hello. Good morning.

0:25:000:25:03

-Hello there.

-Good morning.

0:25:030:25:05

In Solihull, Tony has arranged to meet Donald for breakfast.

0:25:050:25:09

-Hi, Don. It's Tony.

-Hello, Tony.

-Hiya.

0:25:090:25:12

-Sorry.

-What's the matter?

-I fell over in the bathroom this morning.

0:25:120:25:16

-Oh, no!

-At half past eight, I was lying on the floor, I'm afraid.

0:25:160:25:20

-Are you OK?

-Yeah, a bit shaken up.

0:25:200:25:23

It's a rather hard floor, you know.

0:25:230:25:25

-How did you attract anyone's attention in order to get you up?

-I've got a wristband on.

-Yeah.

0:25:260:25:32

So, a good job I had that.

0:25:320:25:35

-Yeah.

-Two nurses hauled me up to my feet again.

0:25:350:25:39

As I say, I went down with a bit of a bump. I just lost my balance, you know. It's happened before.

0:25:390:25:45

-Look, I'll come in later on and see how you are.

-OK, I'll be around.

0:25:450:25:51

The problem for Don is that he is as bright as a button,

0:25:510:25:56

but his body won't work properly for him.

0:25:560:25:58

It's a bit like if you wanted to do Formula One and you're driving around in a 1960s Triumph Herald.

0:25:580:26:05

And it's not something that's really solvable, I don't think.

0:26:050:26:09

So I feel like I've come down early, waiting for my mate, and my mate's poorly.

0:26:090:26:15

So what do you do for the rest of the day?

0:26:150:26:18

-Good morning.

-This morning is Dennis's all-important assessment

0:26:200:26:25

and Gloria has been invited along by the rehab team, but there's a problem.

0:26:250:26:30

Dennis has woken up feeling dizzy.

0:26:300:26:32

I think he has been really working his way towards this

0:26:320:26:36

and it would be an enormous disappointment to him.

0:26:360:26:40

All right, Dennis, how are you feeling?

0:26:400:26:43

-I'm a bit rough today.

-A bit rough?

-Yeah.

0:26:430:26:46

Will I come back later and we'll see about the home visit?

0:26:460:26:50

-Yeah.

-If you have a bit of a sleep now...

0:26:500:26:53

I think the visit will be off.

0:26:530:26:55

-Do you?

-I've got a feeling, yeah.

0:26:550:26:57

-Knowing Dennis, he must be feeling pretty rough.

-Yeah.

0:26:570:27:02

It's just one of those things. Maybe tomorrow, maybe it'll have to be next week.

0:27:020:27:07

We don't really know, do we?

0:27:070:27:09

Meeting Dennis has made Gloria think about her mum May

0:27:110:27:15

who fought her battle to continue living in her own home after she became ill at the age of 72.

0:27:150:27:21

There was one occasion when she fell between the bed and the wall and she wasn't able to get up

0:27:210:27:26

and she lay there for a very long time, apparently,

0:27:260:27:29

until a neighbour actually came in.

0:27:290:27:32

And I remember her telling me that was just one of the worst moments of her life

0:27:320:27:37

because "A", she felt helpless,

0:27:370:27:39

she wasn't able to physically call anybody, she wasn't near the telephone, couldn't get to the phone

0:27:390:27:45

and she couldn't help herself up.

0:27:450:27:47

And I think, in a weird way, that was the beginning of the end for her

0:27:470:27:51

because she realised for the first time she couldn't live on her own at home and she died in hospital,

0:27:510:27:57

but she was in there a relatively short time, so I think there comes a point in anybody's life

0:27:570:28:03

when you suffer that indignity or you suffer the realisation

0:28:030:28:06

that this could be it and you're going to have to be a bit practical from here on in.

0:28:060:28:12

John, I've got your coffee here.

0:28:140:28:16

After a difficult first day for John, manager Marsha has come up with a plan

0:28:160:28:21

to help him think differently about dementia and his own old age.

0:28:210:28:25

She's sending him out shopping with residents Hilda and Joan.

0:28:250:28:29

So this is a great way of building up relationships with the two ladies going into town

0:28:290:28:35

and they will see you, they will trust you

0:28:350:28:37

and they will know that you're safe, that you're a nice person, and that goes a long way.

0:28:370:28:42

-I'm a bit nervous. Supposing they do a runner or something?

-They won't do a runner.

0:28:420:28:47

Joan, where are you going?

0:28:470:28:49

89-year-old Joan has lived in the home for 2½ years

0:28:490:28:52

since her daughter found it impossible to look after her.

0:28:520:28:56

-Do you want to come down and I'll introduce you to Joan properly in her room?

-Lovely. Yes, I'd like to.

0:28:560:29:02

Like many of the residents, Joan has difficulty distinguishing between the past and the present.

0:29:020:29:08

That's Dad and Mum at the top. They're all right, they're safe. I got them right, I think.

0:29:080:29:13

And the children come along a bit lower down - Stephen, Peter and Andrew.

0:29:130:29:18

-Yes...

-And Anne, isn't there?

-Oh, yes.

0:29:180:29:22

Joan remembers them more as children, rather than as adults now.

0:29:220:29:26

And you've got a lot of grandchildren - three, six, nine, ten, eleven grandchildren!

0:29:260:29:31

-I shouldn't think so.

-No, I think you have.

-Am I that old?

-Yeah.

0:29:310:29:35

You've just had your birthday, Joan.

0:29:350:29:38

-I don't count birthdays.

-No, quite right.

0:29:380:29:43

Marsha wants to tackle John's assumption that the residents can't enjoy meaningful relationships.

0:29:430:29:50

'There's so much stigma with dementia.'

0:29:500:29:53

Somebody's drooling and the telly's on and what's the point?

0:29:530:29:57

It's nice to be out, isn't it? Seeing the outside world.

0:29:570:30:00

'He came in with that on day one.'

0:30:000:30:03

I want him to be able to go past that to see that there's so much more that he can contribute

0:30:030:30:09

towards that person's wellbeing by just taking the time and seeing them as an individual.

0:30:090:30:15

-What about these sort of things here?

-They're soft.

0:30:150:30:20

-They're light. Can you feel them?

-Yeah, I think Nicola needs to judge these.

0:30:200:30:26

Not my strong point, really.

0:30:260:30:29

Come and have a look at these things.

0:30:290:30:33

-There's t-shirts.

-T-shirts?

0:30:330:30:35

-Do you like that one?

-£5.

-£5.

0:30:400:30:43

-I like the colour.

-They are nice, aren't they?

-And these are pretty.

0:30:430:30:47

Yes, I'm not quite so enthusiastic about them.

0:30:470:30:51

-Which of these?

-Nightwear.

0:30:510:30:53

Oh, I think I'd like the plain pink, please.

0:30:530:30:57

'Joan is bright and understands a lot of things.'

0:30:570:31:00

She's still got a remarkable amount of marbles left.

0:31:000:31:05

Em, I don't think Hilda has the same awareness and everything,

0:31:050:31:10

but they're perfectly able to look after themselves and potter around.

0:31:100:31:15

I don't think they want to be cosseted and, you know, asked if they're all right all the time.

0:31:150:31:22

-Joan, did you want to do any more shopping?

-Not now.

-You happy now?

0:31:220:31:26

Yeah, I've finished.

0:31:260:31:28

We had a good time. We had a very good time.

0:31:320:31:35

But just as John thinks he's making some progress with the residents...

0:31:350:31:40

-What are you going to do now, Hilda? Going to have a little rest?

-Yes.

-Good idea.

0:31:400:31:45

..suddenly it's back to square one.

0:31:450:31:47

-Will you do the same, Joan?

-No, I have to go home and see my parents.

0:31:470:31:53

I've been away all day.

0:31:530:31:55

'I felt shocked, actually. Quite shocked.'

0:32:040:32:07

And a bit...a bit depressed. I ought to put the... be the devil's advocate and say

0:32:070:32:13

what the hell's the point of taking two old ladies out

0:32:130:32:18

if within 20 minutes, half an hour of getting back, they don't realise

0:32:180:32:23

-they were out in the first place?

-It's about quality of life. It doesn't matter if they forget.

0:32:230:32:29

-If you can just get that short link one day...

-It's worth it?

-It's worth it.

0:32:290:32:35

It's like somebody suddenly holding up a mirror in front of me

0:32:350:32:39

and saying, "That's what you're going to be like."

0:32:390:32:42

'It is frightening, dementia, for some people, you know.'

0:32:420:32:47

So I want him to be able to go past that. If you spend that time and be with that person,

0:32:470:32:52

you can help their wellbeing immensely.

0:32:520:32:56

According to the proverb, which day never comes?

0:32:560:33:01

When she chose her mum's care home, Lesley looked for a place with plenty of mental stimulation

0:33:010:33:07

and a choice of activities every day.

0:33:070:33:10

Today the only activity Hillview has the resources to lay on is a quiz.

0:33:100:33:16

In medicine, haematology studies the physiology of what?

0:33:160:33:20

Now if you don't get that one...

0:33:200:33:23

'This is quite a small care home, so there's not a lot of activities.

0:33:230:33:28

'There tends to be one a day.'

0:33:280:33:30

No lip reading! Some of the ladies are really good at that.

0:33:300:33:34

As well as working as a carer, Kayleigh doubles up as the activities leader,

0:33:340:33:40

-with the job of keeping 48 residents entertained.

-In the animal kingdom,

0:33:400:33:45

is a gnat catcher a bird or a reptile?

0:33:450:33:48

What sort of activities do you set?

0:33:480:33:51

Obviously, I suppose, in the winter months it's really hard to get them outside, isn't it?

0:33:510:33:57

We do a lot of indoor activities. Quizzes, bingo, arts and crafts.

0:33:570:34:00

-I'm trying to get chair aerobics starting again.

-I'm surprised you don't do exercise classes.

0:34:000:34:07

That to me is one of the most important things. Do you have a minibus to take residents out in?

0:34:070:34:12

No, we don't have a minibus here. If any resident wants to go out,

0:34:120:34:16

there's always staff to go with them, but the resident has to pay for the transport themselves.

0:34:160:34:22

How does it work, then? Presumably you have quite a restrictive, or maybe a big budget

0:34:220:34:28

-for the activities?

-I usually have a budget of around £100 a month.

0:34:280:34:32

They give me extra money for bigger events like the summer fete.

0:34:320:34:37

'The budget for a month

0:34:380:34:40

'is £100. That seemed to be very little to get entertainers in,

0:34:400:34:44

'to get exercise co-ordinators in, to get music people in,'

0:34:440:34:48

to get art materials for an art class.

0:34:480:34:52

£3 a day for 50 people's activities doesn't seem a lot.

0:34:520:34:57

I would have thought double that would be probably more like it.

0:34:570:35:01

Are we ready?

0:35:010:35:03

MUSIC: "Rock Around The Clock"

0:35:030:35:06

Over at Tony's care home, the charity provides ample stimulation for the residents.

0:35:060:35:12

But after spending most of the morning in bed, Donald's decided to stay in his room.

0:35:180:35:24

-Oh, you've got visitors. Sorry.

-Hello. My name is Malcolm.

-Hello, Malcolm.

-And you're Tony.

0:35:240:35:31

-You all right?

-I'm fine, yeah. How are you now?

-I'm just sort of trying to relax.

0:35:310:35:38

Having had that fall, I'd rather not be too active this morning.

0:35:380:35:42

-Well, I'll leave you on your own this afternoon, with your mates.

-My mates, yes.

-Have a good afternoon.

0:35:420:35:48

-See you, guys.

-See you. Bye.

0:35:480:35:51

It's a really lousy old day,

0:35:580:36:00

Don's fallen over.

0:36:000:36:03

I felt really positive when I went to bed last night. I don't really feel like that now.

0:36:030:36:09

I'll be stuck in here for the whole day!

0:36:100:36:14

The rehab team at Hoylake have been back to check on Dennis.

0:36:170:36:22

Dennis is feeling a lot better.

0:36:220:36:24

-He's had a good rest in bed.

-Yes, he's bounced back.

0:36:240:36:28

We'll be having a home visit this afternoon.

0:36:280:36:31

-OK, off we go.

-After six weeks in the care home, Dennis is about to have his assessment.

0:36:310:36:38

-Today he'll find out if he's fit enough to move back into his own home yet.

-Are you a bit nervous?

0:36:380:36:44

-A bit apprehensive, yes.

-Are you?

-But lots of people feel like that.

0:36:440:36:48

-I'll be all right.

-You'll do fine.

0:36:480:36:52

'His spirits were rock bottom.'

0:36:540:36:56

I don't know whether he thought, "This is it. I'm in here now and that's my lot."

0:36:560:37:02

But I said, "No. Between us, we'll get you back on your feet and you'll come back home to us."

0:37:020:37:08

If Dennis is still struggling to cope at home, he'll need to return for a longer stay in rehab.

0:37:100:37:16

'It's very emotional for me, but...I am trying to hold it together.'

0:37:160:37:22

But he'll be all right. I'm sure he'll be all right once he gets home.

0:37:220:37:28

I'll just be glad to see him, that's all.

0:37:290:37:32

-The next hour is crucial.

-You all right, Dennis?

-OK.

-All right.

0:37:340:37:39

The rehab team will be assessing Dennis on his ability to move safely around his house.

0:37:390:37:46

Good man.

0:37:460:37:47

-Hello!

-Ivy has no idea about Dennis's dizzy spell this morning.

0:37:510:37:56

-Wrong leg that was.

-Oh, Dennis.

0:37:580:38:00

-Wrong leg.

-That's quite a high step, isn't it?

-It is.

0:38:000:38:04

-Well played.

-I wasn't too good this morning.

0:38:040:38:09

- Why? - I got out of bed all wobbly.

0:38:090:38:12

- Oh, dear. - A bit dizzy.

0:38:120:38:15

-Shall we go to the bedroom?

-OK.

-Try you on and off your bed.

0:38:150:38:19

Getting in and out of bed is the main thing because I can only help him so much.

0:38:210:38:26

I can't do that for him.

0:38:260:38:28

-Will I lie down?

-Yeah, let's see you getting on your bed. Wow. Excellent.

0:38:280:38:33

-Have you ever tried a bed lever?

-No.

-OK. Maybe we can try it.

-What is a bed lever?

0:38:330:38:40

It's for somebody who is struggling to get from lying to sitting. It can help in that respect.

0:38:400:38:47

-Can you hold that? This is what I do.

-This is what you do.

0:38:470:38:51

Oops.

0:38:560:38:58

-I don't do that.

-Where did you go there?

0:38:580:39:03

-It was lower than I thought it was.

-OK, OK. All right. Get a breath.

0:39:030:39:07

OK.

0:39:070:39:09

-No, it's not going to work.

-Dennis, what about this rail?

0:39:160:39:20

No.

0:39:200:39:21

After 20 minutes, it's clear that Dennis is not fit enough to go home quite yet.

0:39:230:39:28

'There are a few further tasks that we need to...'

0:39:280:39:32

-Yeah.

-..work on. Just to make him as safe as possible.

0:39:320:39:36

'He's been building up to this for quite a while, really.'

0:39:360:39:40

Now it's sort of, "Ooh!"

0:39:400:39:42

This is the reality of what's happened.

0:39:430:39:46

-What adjustment would you make in the bathroom?

-So far I'd possibly fit a toilet frame around the toilet

0:39:460:39:53

and possibly get it floor-fixed.

0:39:530:39:55

'I am hoping it's going to work. We'll just see.'

0:39:580:40:01

We could laugh about this in a few weeks' time, couldn't we? And say, "Remember that...?"

0:40:010:40:07

Hopefully, we will.

0:40:070:40:09

'It was a bit of a shock, I must say, when he didn't quite make it over that step with his leg

0:40:110:40:19

'and he did buckle a little bit. That must be very disappointing for him.'

0:40:190:40:25

You were good today the way you just said, "I know I've got to do a bit more work on this leg."

0:40:260:40:32

-You're being very realistic and honest, aren't you?

-I'll be there in the summer.

0:40:320:40:38

John's meeting Joan's daughter, Ann, who often comes to visit her mum at the care home

0:40:500:40:56

and looked after her mum at home until she was no longer able to cope.

0:40:560:41:01

I got really tired and stressed and it was so difficult. She got cross with me and aggressive.

0:41:010:41:07

It's a horrible illness and you don't wish it on anybody, but if people are going to live to this age

0:41:070:41:13

we owe it to them, really, to make their life fulfilled. We've got to, if possible,

0:41:130:41:19

-provide this sort of quality...

-It's got to be decent.

-I couldn't bear for Mum to be sitting all day

0:41:190:41:25

just doing nothing. I think that's an awful way to treat people.

0:41:250:41:30

She could go on for a long time. She'll be 90 next year.

0:41:300:41:34

The difficult bit might be if she gets worse. That's partly why I do loads of photographs with her.

0:41:340:41:41

All the time we do, because we go back right to her childhood and she knows who everybody is

0:41:410:41:47

and where they are, what they're doing, which I think keeps a little bit of the memory alive.

0:41:470:41:54

A quarter of an hour is useless.

0:41:540:41:57

For the first time, John's feelings about living with dementia are changing.

0:41:570:42:02

It's lovely to see that coming to a place like this doesn't have to be the end of the family relationship.

0:42:020:42:09

It can still continue, under different circumstances.

0:42:090:42:14

So that's a big, big thing for me to have seen that.

0:42:140:42:18

-Now where are we?

-I don't know where this is. Must be one of the big rooms upstairs.

0:42:200:42:26

I can't see these without my glasses.

0:42:260:42:29

'I think what I've learnt probably most of all today is'

0:42:290:42:34

how valuable, how worthwhile it is

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'to work with people with dementia.'

0:42:380:42:41

Do you...? How about my glasses?

0:42:410:42:43

-Then I shall have to peer.

-Oh, they're quite good.

-Are they? Well, you can't have them!

0:42:430:42:49

'I suppose before I thought'

0:42:490:42:52

they're finished, really, as human beings. They're sucked oranges

0:42:520:42:56

'and there's just the outer signs of what they once were.'

0:42:560:43:00

And so actually, frankly, not much point in doing anything with them.

0:43:000:43:05

I've now come to realise how wrong that is. That person is still there, somewhere.

0:43:050:43:11

If only you can just find the way of reaching, reaching through.

0:43:110:43:16

-I can't see them. They're too small and I've got no glasses.

-Oh, I see.

0:43:160:43:20

-Cos a certain person has my glasses.

-It's one of them.

-No, you!

0:43:200:43:25

-Me? I haven't got your glasses.

-You have!

0:43:250:43:28

-Would you like a cup of tea before bed?

-That would be great.

0:43:300:43:34

It's nearing the end of their second day in care homes.

0:43:340:43:38

-We'll speak tomorrow. OK.

-Thank you.

-OK. Good night.

0:43:380:43:43

He's nice, isn't he? Very kind.

0:43:430:43:46

And I appreciate that.

0:43:460:43:49

But Tony's decided he's had enough of his.

0:43:500:43:53

I've done a runner!

0:43:550:43:58

I've broken free. I couldn't last two whole days.

0:43:580:44:02

It just drove me bonkers.

0:44:020:44:05

It's terrible, isn't it? That is a very, very good care home.

0:44:060:44:10

I'm casting no aspersions on it at all, but just to be cooped up for so long in the same place

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with no expectation of any surprises during the course of the day.

0:44:170:44:24

I just... I just found that so difficult.

0:44:240:44:27

It's just the whole notion

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of being...stuck in there

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from now until the end of my life is horrendous.

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And I couldn't last one and a half days!

0:44:390:44:43

Pathetic!

0:44:430:44:46

Up in Middlesbrough, it's now two nights on the trot in front of the telly for Lesley.

0:44:480:44:54

-Does anybody know what we're watching?

-Nobody cares what we're watching.

-You might not.

0:45:030:45:09

-You shut up.

-I won't shut up.

0:45:090:45:11

'It's actually made me feel quite uncomfortable being here.

0:45:110:45:15

'Some homes will not have the level of care that you get here'

0:45:150:45:20

because that is very, very high. But nobody goes on little adventures any more

0:45:200:45:26

maybe because they don't have a minibus, or because they have to rely on a family member.

0:45:260:45:32

Maybe it's a financial thing that they have to get a taxi. I feel claustrophobic.

0:45:320:45:37

I want to open the front door and breathe and that's why I...

0:45:370:45:43

if I'm absolutely honest I just want to run back to London and scoop my mother up.

0:45:440:45:50

What's this?

0:45:560:45:59

Oh, cranberry juice.

0:45:590:46:01

I'll have a quick cup of tea and I shall get up.

0:46:010:46:05

I've really found this very difficult. I didn't expect to at all.

0:46:090:46:13

I'm not sure whether it's to do with the fact that, em...

0:46:130:46:18

my mum died in a space so similar. I can't tell you how similar this room is to the one

0:46:180:46:26

where she spent her last... eight years.

0:46:260:46:29

After making a run for it the night before, there's only one thing on Tony's mind -

0:46:290:46:35

he wants to do it again, but this time with his mate.

0:46:350:46:39

'I have this vague idea it might be possible to take a few people to lunch, particularly Don,

0:46:390:46:44

'who hasn't gone on a trip at all.'

0:46:440:46:47

But yesterday was not a great day. He fell over and lost an enormous amount of confidence

0:46:470:46:52

and really buried into himself. I don't want to push him.

0:46:520:46:57

Tony's found a new way to get around his home and he's keen to show off his new toy to Donald.

0:46:590:47:06

I've lost where I'm going to!

0:47:060:47:09

Hi, Donald!

0:47:140:47:16

I'm going through the experience. Do you fancy the pub for lunch?

0:47:160:47:20

It's very nice of you. I wouldn't mind that at all, but...

0:47:200:47:24

-And we could have a good bottle of wine.

-Yes, that would be a very nice change, Tony.

0:47:240:47:30

-That's very kind of you.

-Excellent. Right, I'll leave you to get ready.

0:47:300:47:35

-It's all done with that one control?

-It is, yeah. I can't recommend this too highly.

-Well done. Bye for now.

0:47:350:47:42

At short notice, the care home has laid on a minibus to take the gang to the pub.

0:47:470:47:53

Donald? Is this the first time you've been in this bus?

0:47:530:47:57

-Yes, indeed.

-So you haven't actually been out anywhere up 'til now?

-No. I haven't been here very long.

0:47:570:48:03

Three weeks!

0:48:030:48:06

-I'd have climbed out the window by now.

-Oh, it is three weeks, yes.

0:48:060:48:10

-How time flashes by!

-Ha!

0:48:100:48:12

That's it. The White Lion on the right.

0:48:120:48:16

'I don't think being here I'm going to be able to help Donald very much.

0:48:190:48:25

'I'm not going to speed in here and ease his transformation

0:48:250:48:30

'from his independence to being in a care home.

0:48:300:48:34

'There's only one person who can do that and that's himself.'

0:48:340:48:38

-Would a bottle of Chateauneuf du Pape go down all right?

-Yes.

-It would go down extremely well.

0:48:390:48:45

-Cheers, gentlemen.

-Oh, cheers, yes.

0:48:470:48:50

To many happy years.

0:48:500:48:53

Don,

0:48:530:48:54

how do you feel as a man

0:48:540:48:58

who has been pretty independent for most of his life

0:48:580:49:03

to be in a situation where actually you have to hand over that independence to other people

0:49:030:49:09

who are going to tell you what to do and not to walk with the sticks and all those things?

0:49:090:49:15

Well, obviously I feel sorry about it and I'm reluctant to let it go,

0:49:150:49:21

but I think you've just got to accept the situation as it presents itself to you.

0:49:210:49:26

How does it feel, knowing that you'll probably spend the rest of your days

0:49:260:49:33

-in an environment which isn't your own?

-Resignation rather is the word!

0:49:330:49:38

-Yes.

-Resigned to it.

-Yes, yes.

0:49:380:49:42

To try and make life as fulfilling as possible and keep your independence for as long as possible

0:49:420:49:48

and go out places.

0:49:480:49:50

Do as much as you can and keep as active you can as long as you can.

0:49:500:49:54

-Yeah, that's my view, too.

-Yeah.

0:49:540:49:57

Once we get back,

0:49:570:49:59

do you think I might be able to persuade you to try my motorised car?

0:49:590:50:05

-Well, I wouldn't mind trying it, I must admit.

-Good.

0:50:050:50:09

-Well...

-You get on all right with yours.

-You like yours.

-I do. I wouldn't be without it.

0:50:090:50:16

-Half past four for a little burn-up on the corridor?

-Right-o.

0:50:160:50:20

-Surely.

-Probably illegal, but we'll do that.

-Yeah.

0:50:200:50:25

'The question that I've kept asking myself since I first came in here has been how would I be

0:50:250:50:31

'when I come here.

0:50:310:50:34

'And what I've got from Vic and Don, and they've been absolutely open, is the same word - resignation.

0:50:340:50:40

'I would just like to hope that there is more to the end of our days than simply resignation.'

0:50:400:50:46

Anybody else know My Old Man?

0:50:490:50:53

Shall I pass down the words?

0:50:540:50:56

With no minibus to call on, actor and panto performer Lesley

0:50:560:51:01

-has tried to come up with her own affordable way of stimulating the residents.

-Do you know My Old Man?

0:51:010:51:07

-A singsong.

-One, two, three.

0:51:070:51:10

# My old man said follow the van

0:51:100:51:15

# And don't dilly dally on the way... #

0:51:150:51:20

For Lesley, low budget may not directly affect the quality of care at Hillview,

0:51:200:51:25

but she can't help feeling that something is missing.

0:51:250:51:29

'In my view, the role of a care home is to give care to somebody who can no longer care for themselves,

0:51:290:51:36

'but also a place where the mind is stimulated.'

0:51:360:51:40

It's not a place where people will just sit and wait for death.

0:51:400:51:45

And I suppose in a way one would like to think that every care home could do everything it needed,

0:51:450:51:50

but it's making sure that they are still excited to wake up in the morning and see what's ahead.

0:51:500:51:57

# ..when you can't find your way home! #

0:51:570:52:02

Is it possible for me to in and out this door for a walk?

0:52:070:52:12

I want to be up and out. I can't get out anywhere.

0:52:120:52:16

If I get out, I can't get in.

0:52:160:52:19

I can't even get up to my husband!

0:52:190:52:22

Or my...my stepmother. My mother.

0:52:220:52:25

-Come on.

-They're only...

0:52:250:52:28

They're in the...in the...

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ground. I can't get in and out.

0:52:300:52:34

-I'm sorry...

-I don't want to take anything out. Or pinch anything.

0:52:340:52:39

-Do you want some company? Can I come with you?

-By all means.

0:52:390:52:43

-Then I can take you and show you what I'm doing.

-OK. Show me.

0:52:430:52:47

-I didn't ask my parents to go and die.

-No, I know.

0:52:470:52:51

She's a bit upset.

0:52:510:52:53

-Hello!

-I can't get at it. I can't pinch things. I don't want things. I can't drive a car.

0:52:550:53:02

-I'll tell you where I want to go first today.

-Yes, where?

-It's to see my brother's grave.

0:53:060:53:13

-He's dead.

-Yes, my darling.

0:53:130:53:16

Why do they keep me alive?

0:53:160:53:18

Come inside, eh?

0:53:210:53:23

'Yeah, it was a bit upsetting. It was hard to listen to, hard to take,

0:53:250:53:31

'but it's part of the disease, I suppose.'

0:53:310:53:34

It just cuts right to the heart, doesn't it?

0:53:340:53:37

And to think of somebody being that old and that alone.

0:53:370:53:41

It happens that the place where she's living out her life is a very nice one,

0:53:410:53:46

but it doesn't take away the pain. Poor old thing.

0:53:460:53:50

I lead this weird life where I go chasing round the globe all the time and, of course,

0:53:520:53:58

you miss out on family and when I come here

0:53:580:54:02

and I see these things and I see people fading away,

0:54:020:54:06

I think, you know,

0:54:060:54:08

got to get in there and be with them

0:54:100:54:14

and not just let...not just think, "Oh, well, I can't do anything this month, but maybe next month.

0:54:140:54:20

"Not this year, maybe next year."

0:54:200:54:22

Well, there aren't... I'm 67 and I haven't got that many years to go

0:54:220:54:28

and, you know, I want to see these people that are important to me.

0:54:280:54:34

Are you ready? Yeah, come on, Peter Fonda.

0:54:360:54:41

Okey-doke?

0:54:460:54:47

-I don't know how I sit on it. Can that go up for a moment?

-It can.

0:54:480:54:54

-Oh, it's going...

-Hey!

0:54:540:54:56

-You're in. Are you all right?

-I'm all in one piece.

0:54:560:55:00

He needs to have his feet up.

0:55:000:55:02

That's it. Excellent.

0:55:060:55:08

This is quite interesting.

0:55:100:55:12

Steve?

0:55:130:55:14

-You're doing really well, Don. Fantastic.

-I could run you down at any moment.

-I'll leap out the way!

0:55:140:55:22

-Yeah.

-Very good.

0:55:230:55:25

'If he decides to continue using that little car,

0:55:250:55:29

'I think it's going to help him enormously here.

0:55:290:55:34

'He'll come out of his room more and maybe engage a bit more in the activities.'

0:55:340:55:39

-He's doing very well.

-Does it surprise you?

-Yes.

0:55:390:55:44

I've seen people do this before for the first time and be completely hopeless.

0:55:440:55:49

-Today's been... a day of novel experiences, as far as I'm concerned.

-In what way?

0:55:540:56:00

Well, I'd never been on the bus before, I haven't been to one of the pub lunches before.

0:56:000:56:06

And I haven't been in an electric wheelchair before, so they're all new to me.

0:56:060:56:12

Quite interesting, though, and...

0:56:120:56:14

a damn good lunch, I must admit.

0:56:140:56:17

Yeah, I'm really pleased that he took the plunge

0:56:180:56:22

and came away saying, "That was really rather good fun."

0:56:220:56:27

And he's actually prepared to get on board and drive back. He seems to be looking rather forward to it.

0:56:270:56:33

So...yeah, I felt good about that.

0:56:330:56:36

It's quite an enjoyable experience.

0:56:360:56:39

It beats walking! Yeah, yeah.

0:56:390:56:41

I'm just going to go now, everybody, so bye!

0:56:440:56:47

Goodbye!

0:56:470:56:49

After their short stay in care homes, it's time for the four visiting pensioners to go home.

0:56:490:56:55

-You feeling a bit better today?

-A headache today.

-Bit of a headache?

0:56:550:56:59

Oh, dear.

0:56:590:57:01

-I hope you make it home soon.

-Thank you.

-Did you waken up with the headache?

-I did, yes.

0:57:010:57:07

I think I've a cold in the head.

0:57:070:57:09

'Maybe for the first time I realised that if somebody'

0:57:090:57:12

is on his or her own and they don't have any family

0:57:120:57:16

and you do become weak, I can see

0:57:160:57:20

that it must be a relief in some ways to come to a place like this.

0:57:200:57:23

But on the other hand I'm just going to pray that I can keep as fit and well as I can

0:57:230:57:29

and somebody else might fulfil my wish of keeping me at home.

0:57:290:57:33

It's a real pleasure to see you.

0:57:330:57:36

'It's changed my views to the extent that I can see how it could be really quite pleasant

0:57:360:57:41

'to be in a care home like this.'

0:57:410:57:44

-Thank you. Look after yourself.

-Thank you.

0:57:440:57:47

'And just gradually sort of drift out of...out of life.'

0:57:470:57:52

Thank you, Joan, for being lovely company. 'What it boils down to'

0:57:520:57:56

is if this happens to me, this is my pathway in the future,

0:57:560:58:01

'it isn't something to be terrified of.'

0:58:010:58:04

Bye, Arthur. Bye-bye.

0:58:040:58:06

Despite realising the value of care for someone like Donald,

0:58:060:58:11

Tony's core conviction remains.

0:58:110:58:14

'I would argue vociferously that care homes ought to be as good as possible,

0:58:140:58:21

'that they ought to be funded both by government, by local authorities and by charities

0:58:210:58:27

'well enough so that every old person in the country who requires a place in a care home

0:58:270:58:33

'should get one of the highest level possible,

0:58:330:58:37

'and yet and yet and yet...I'd also argue can we find strategies to keep people in the home

0:58:370:58:43

'rather than getting them into care homes? I don't feel we're trying to find a solution hard enough.'

0:58:430:58:51

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